Some Other Races To Watch Tonight
Happy Election Day, everyone! It being an off-year election, there will be no presidential race to dominate the news tonight as the election returns come in. The biggest races will be in the Senate, with political control of the chamber hanging in the balance. On the House side, the only real question is how many seats the Republicans will pick up. But there are plenty of interesting down-ballot races to watch, while waiting for Alaska's returns to come in late in the night (or, perhaps, the recounting of West Podunk's ballots). I thought, as a preview/guide to tonight's returns, it'd be worth the time to take a quick look at some of the other contests we may be hearing about this evening.
Governors
There will be the same number of governors' races as there are Senate races tonight: 36. Unlike in the Senate, though, this represents almost three-fourths of the states. Many of these races are surprisingly close -- there are roughly a dozen where the polling is so tight it could go either way. Look for the pundits to occasionally remark on these races tonight, because it's about the only time of year when they get the chance to repeatedly use the term "gubernatorial." For fun, at home, every time you hear it, repeat the word in the worst Arnold Schwarzenegger accent you can manage!
Joking aside, winning governors' mansions isn't going to be crucial this time around (it will become more important the closer we get to the 2020 congressional reapportionment), but it could influence the 2016 presidential contest to some extent. It's always considered easier for either party's candidate to pick up a state in the presidential election if there's a governor from the same party running things. This may be an overgeneralization, as it is no guarantee in any given state, but it could help out on the campaign trail if the governor in question is still popular in 2016.
Currently, the partisan breakdown of governors favors the Republicans, since they hold 29 states to Democrats' 21. If Democrats can post some gains tonight, it will even this playing field somewhat for the next election.
Statehouses
What with Washington in terminal (and perhaps "perpetual") gridlock, a lot of legislative action has been happening at the state level. Both Republicans and Democrats have been pursuing their agendas in statehouses, since Washington's inaction has left such a void. For Republicans, this mostly has meant tightening voting laws, restricting abortion rights, and busting unions. For Democrats, this has meant expanding Medicaid, raising minimum wages, and passing some "nanny state" laws (like California banning plastic bags in stores). OK, I'll admit that I'm oversimplifying both sides, but you get the general idea.
State legislatures (together with governors) have been advancing the "laboratory of democracy" ideals in the states, so control of statehouse chambers is also an important backdrop to tonight's races. Due to the thousands of races, it is impossible to focus on any one (or even any one state), but if the pundits are right Republicans may be looking to expand their already large advantage tonight.
Currently, there are 28 states where Republicans completely control the state legislature (majorities in both houses, except for unicameral Nebraska). Democrats only fully hold the legislative reins in 17 states. This leaves five split states, where each party controls one chamber. If Republicans manage to boost their numbers at the state level, it could have a lot more impact than who is sitting in the governor's office.
Ballot Initiatives
The Washington Post has an excellent rundown of the 25 biggest (most important) ballot initiatives at the state level, complete with off-the-cuff rankings of the chances each one has of passing. Polling can be pretty thin on ballot initiatives, so a lot of these are no more than educated guesses -- ballot initiatives often defy any polling which does exist, too. So look for a few surprises tonight.
There are a wide range of issues on the ballot in various states. A few states are voting on sneaky "personhood" language to be added into state law, which will build a foundation to later drastically restrict abortion and contraceptive access for women. The one in Colorado will likely fail, but North Dakota's may pass (Tennessee's is a tossup).
Oregon may go to the "top two" primary system (also known as the "jungle primary"), where all primary candidates (of all parties) appear on the same ballot, and the top two vote-getters move on to the general election (even if they're from the same party). California and Washington already have this system (personal note: I hate it, I think every political party should have a right to a spot on the general election ballot).
Oregon and Colorado will also be voting on requiring genetically-modified foods to be identified on the label. Washington state has two competing gun proposals on the subject of background checks. If both pass, they will contradict each other, so that looks like a long court case in the future. California has two propositions on doctors and health insurance, but the health insurance industry spent an absolute mountain of money against them so their chances of passing are dubious at best.
Raising the minimum wage is on the ballot in four states (Alaska, Arkansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska). In at least two of these states (Alaska and South Dakota), the new law would not just boost the minimum wage, but take a giant leap forward by tying future hikes to inflation -- meaning a rising minimum wage would be automatic from that point on (in other words: it'll never have to be fought over politically again). Democrats haven't pushed this issue nearly as hard as they should have in this election, but maybe the voters themselves will decide so the timid politicians don't have to. Hiking the minimum wage has a good chance of passing in all of these states (since it is a wildly popular idea just about everywhere in America), so victories on this front will definitely get talked about tomorrow (although the U.S. Congress isn't going to pass a national minimum wage hike any time soon, since Republicans are so dead-set against the idea).
Marijuana is on the ballot in four races, three of them recreational and one medicinal. Florida is where medical marijuana is on the ballot, but this may be a very close race due to the state law that requires the proposition to get 60 percent to pass. Will Florida seniors vote for medical weed? It's an interesting (and demographic-defying) question. Alaska, Oregon, and the District of Columbia will be voting whether to join the experiment already begun in Colorado and Washington state by fully legalizing adult recreational use of marijuana. The skies have not notably fallen in Colorado and Washington (we even had the "Weed Bowl" Super Bowl last January, with two teams from fully-legal states playing each other), and you can bet that Alaska and Oregon voters have taken note. The D.C. measure is likely to pass overwhelmingly (and then get tied up in Congress and the courts, much like their medical marijuana effort did), but chances for success in Oregon and Alaska are pretty up in the air (the polling is thin and inconsistent).
The final initiatives I'll be watching are two tax measures, one which would cap income tax in Georgia and one in Tennessee which would abolish the state income tax altogether. Chances are the Georgia one will pass, but the Tennessee one looks close.
All of these races -- initiatives, governors, and statehouses -- are secondary to the big-ticket Senate races, of course. But waiting for votes to be counted is such a long process that I thought it'd be helpful to point out a few other things to check on while you're waiting for Hayseed County's numbers to come in. Enjoy Election Night, everyone, and also be sure to take note of that tiny, tiny pause which will happen right after this election's results have been finalized, because it will be the only brief moment before I (and the rest of the political universe) start obsessively covering the 2016 races. So enjoy it while you can, and fair warning!
-- Chris Weigant
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OK, here we go...
are the results in from Podunk County yet? What about East Yokel?
:-)
-CW
One side note:
As always, election results are fun because it's the only night each year when you can literally use the line: "another county heard from!"
OK, I admit it, I'm already sick of waiting for the results. And it's still pretty early....
-CW
I'm a bit mystified as to why you ascribe magical powers to Joe Biden. I mean, it'll make LizM happy, but seriously, just because Biden said something it means Orman will or won't do something later? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Unless Orman is a robot, and Biden has the control panel or something.
Like I said, you've got to pace the drinking, dude.
Actually, I am not drinking that much tonight.. I get a hangover about 2 or 3 times a year and Monday nights was brutal.. Lasted well into Tuesday afternoon..
So I have switched from beer to rum...
"This can't be a dream. If it were a dream, there would be rum!"
-Captain Jack Sparrow
:D
As to the Joe Biden point.
It's easy... If Joe Biden says something outlandish that hurts Democrats, it's usually one of those Washington Slips...
:D
Michale
Oh, puh-LEEZ. Obama's said plenty of gracious things in his time, too.
Name one.. :D
As far as Orman... Consider this... SOMETHING had to motivate Democrats to force their candidate out..
Do you HONESTLY believe that Dems would have done that if there was a snowball's chance in hell that Orman would go with the GOP??
Orman will be Dem.. Regardless of the label on his coat or who is the Majority..
Orman will be a Dem...
Michale
Michale [4] -
This took about 30 seconds to find.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/03/press-conference-president
After the 2010 "shellacking":
"What yesterday also told us is that no one party will be able to dictate where we go from here, that we must find common ground in order to set -- in order to make progress on some uncommonly difficult challenges. And I told John Boehner and Mitch McConnell last night I am very eager to sit down with members of both parties and figure out how we can move forward together.
I’m not suggesting this will be easy. I won’t pretend that we will be able to bridge every difference or solve every disagreement. There’s a reason we have two parties in this country, and both Democrats and Republicans have certain beliefs and certain principles that each feels cannot be compromised. But what I think the American people are expecting, and what we owe them, is to focus on those issues that affect their jobs, their security, and their future: reducing our deficit, promoting a clean energy economy, making sure that our children are the best educated in the world, making sure that we’re making the investments in technology that will allow us to keep our competitive edge in the global economy."
Presidents ALWAYS say stuff like this in these situations. Always. Both parties. I think your Obama Derangement Syndrome is kicking in, or something, to suggest otherwise.
-CW
Looks like Mitch took KY.
-CW
Yea, I just noticed that... :D
But have heart.. Sheehan is on track to keep NH...
Michale
"What yesterday also told us is that no one party will be able to dictate where we go from here, that we must find common ground in order to set -- in order to make progress on some uncommonly difficult challenges. And I told John Boehner and Mitch McConnell last night I am very eager to sit down with members of both parties and figure out how we can move forward together.
I’m not suggesting this will be easy. I won’t pretend that we will be able to bridge every difference or solve every disagreement. There’s a reason we have two parties in this country, and both Democrats and Republicans have certain beliefs and certain principles that each feels cannot be compromised. But what I think the American people are expecting, and what we owe them, is to focus on those issues that affect their jobs, their security, and their future: reducing our deficit, promoting a clean energy economy, making sure that our children are the best educated in the world, making sure that we’re making the investments in technology that will allow us to keep our competitive edge in the global economy."
Not quite the exact same thing, but I won't quibble. :D
Michale
Looks like GA is going to the GOP...
Hagan is getting her ass kicked in NC...
Michale
Here's what I don't get...
Only 18% of the vote is in, in Kentucky, but yet it's being called for McConnell..
Anyone wanna clue me in???
Michale
different districts report at different times, but they do exit polling continuously pretty much everywhere. based on a statewide sample, polling organizations can predict pretty accurately when someone wins by a lot, even when the district hasn't yet reported their results.
Michale [8] -
Read the whole speech. There's plenty of graciousness.
Some seem to have called NH for Shaheen, some haven't yet.
GA ain't over yet, and neither is NC.
As for early calling, it's due to exit polling.
-CW
I predict that Jerry Brown will be the next and recurring Governor of California.
I like to go out on a limb ...
LizM -
OK, that was good for a laugh on a night that hasn't had many!
Georgia may have fallen...
-CW
grr. not happy about my likely wardrobe.
Heh.
It's not how hard you fall, Georgia, it's how you get up again and move forward, onwards and upwards ...
PBS just called NC for GOP. I think it's over.
-CW
Yep, it's over. Could get a lot worse by morning.
Getting back to this article, looks like it was a good night for minimum wage and marijuana reform.
Min. wage won 3-for-3 so far and is winning pretty decisively in Alaska (36% of vote is in).
Oregon is the third state to legalize recreational marijuana use, and Washington DC voted pretty overwhelmingly for it too. It's pretty close in Alaska, but is currently leading.
Medical marijuana got 57.6% for in Florida, but this did not reach the necessary threshold of 60%, so the measure will fail. Still, that's a pretty solid majority for the idea.
-CW
Republicans must have done some pretty great things, clear across the country, to have won back control of the US Senate and so many governorships.
Looks like GA is a lock... :D
Who would have thunked it..
Oh wait. :D
Michale
GOP takes the Senate even without the LA run off..
If Landru loses the run-off as expected, the it will be 53 GOP..
Seeing what happened and all, I wish I would have gone state by state pics... During the run up, at one time or another, I called GA and I called KS and I called CO and I called Alaska.. :D
Well, I plan to be gracious and all that..
"In a pigs eye!!"
-Dr Leonard McCoy, STAR TREK, Amok Time
:D
I think that no one can deny that, with the takeover of the Senate so definitively and increasing control of the House unheard of since the 1940s, the GOP have a clear mandate from the American people.
My only advice to the Republican Party??
Don't frak it up! We gave you the power to turn this country around and we can take it away just as quickly. We're not going to accept any excuses. Do your jobs and remember your priorities.. The priorities that Democrats forgot..
This country and her citizens are job 1...
Period...
Michale
Read the whole speech. There's plenty of graciousness.
We'll see how gracious Obama is tonight.. :D
Will he take any blame???
Michale
Holy crap!!!
Illinois has a REPUBLICAN Governor!!
If THAT is not a slap in the face of Obama by the Americans in Illinois, NOTHING is!!
And in Maryland that was considered a safe GOV race, the Democrat lost..
Ironically, the Dem candidate started to lose ground, right after Obama campaigned for the Dem....
"Ouch!! And the ref takes a point away!!"
-Jim Carrey, Liar Liar
Looks like the Senate and the House wasn't the only places that Democrats had their pee-pees whacked...
It's gonna be a rough time for the Democratic Party for the next two years..
But, I have no sympathy for them. They were told time and time and time again that they need to put the needs of the American people BEFORE the needs and wants of President Obama and the Demcorat Party...
One reaps what one sows....
Michale
Medical marijuana got 57.6% for in Florida, but this did not reach the necessary threshold of 60%, so the measure will fail. Still, that's a pretty solid majority for the idea.
My wife and I rarely talk politics.. As much as I am political, she is not..
However, we did discuss the medical marijuana issue here in Florida. Our grandson has epilepsy and there have been studies that show a certain form of medical marijuana has gotten pretty fantastic results..
Once again, a perfect example of, when it comes to family, all stances and positions go out the window....
Michale
This Was An Election About A Failed Presidency
http://thefederalist.com/2014/11/04/this-was-an-election-about-a-failed-presidency/
This pretty much, calls it dead on balls accurate...
Obama wanted the election to be about him, about HIS policies..
And it was.. Unequivocally and completely...
Michale
Has Alaska been called for Sullivan???
Michale
Liz,
Republicans must have done some pretty great things, clear across the country, to have won back control of the US Senate and so many governorships.
I think it's more what Republicans HAVEN'T done, as opposed to what they HAVE done.
They HAVEN'T scrooed over the middle class. They HAVEN'T put American prestige abroad in the toilet. They HAVEN'T made the lives of Americans miserable.
The only question is can the GOP rectify all the scroo-ups of the Democrat Party...
Michale
So, what kind of "wave" did we see last night??
If one looks JUST at the Senate, I would say it's one (NH) state away from a tsunami...
But, if you take into account all the races, the increasing of House Majority at it's highest level in almost 70 years, and the governor's races where Obama lost some pretty personal races in Illinois and Maryland.....
Well, I think that a TSUNAMI describes it perfectly...
Don't you??
Michale
It looks like the GOP is on track to gain NINE seats in the Senate and not lose any...
Now, if THAT is not a mandate, nothing is...
Michale
Don't worry.. I'll get it all out of my system today... :D
By tomorrow, I'll be my normal lovable self again.. :D
Michale
I think every Democrat in Congress plus the President and the Vice President should resign en masse, effective January 2, 2015. They have just been reduced to furniture status so there's no point their being being there any more. Give the entire country over to the Republicans. The nation voted for them and even progressives don't want the current Democrats in Congress any longer. Why bother waiting until 2016? It's obvious that the Republicans will win it all then anyway.
Mopshell,
I like the way you think! :D
Why bother waiting until 2016? It's obvious that the Republicans will win it all then anyway.
This is conditional.. If the GOP does worse than Democrats (can't see how, but the possibility exists) than the country will turn back to Democrats en masse...
The Democrat Party got their asses handed to them for one reason and one reason only..
They put their own agenda ahead of the wishes of the American people...
Every policy that Democrats "brag" about has been done with the majority of Americans AGAINST it..
Unless we are talking National Security or Public Safety, the government should ALWAYS accede to the majority of Americans...
If the majority of Americans don't want TrainWreckCare, than it shouldn't be done..
If the majority of Americans don't want Amnesty for immigrant criminals, then it shouldn't be done..
THAT's what Demcorat forgot and THAT's why they were bowled over and decimated..
If the GOP forgets that too??
The same thing will happen to them in 2016 and *I'll* be leading the charge....
Michale
https://mp3truck.eu/show-me-the-way-styx-mp3-download.html#
Every night I say a prayer in the hope that there's a heaven
And every day I'm more confused as the saints turn into sinners
All the heroes and legends I knew as a child have fallen to idols of clay
And I feel this empty place inside so afraid that I've lost my faith
Show me the way, show me the way
Take me tonight to the river
And wash my illusions away
Show me the way
And as I slowly drift to sleep, for a moment dreams are sacred
I close my eyes and know there's peace in a world so filled with hatred
That I wake up each morning and turn on the news to find we've so far to go
And I keep on hoping for a sign, so afraid that I just won't know
Show me the way, Show me the way
Take me tonight to the mountain
And wash my confusion away
And if I feel light, should I believe
Tell me how will I know
Show me the way, show me the way
Take me tonight to the river
And wash my illusions away
Show me the way, show me the way
Give me the strength and the courage
To believe that I'll get there someday
And please show me the way
Every night I say a prayer
In the hope that there's a heaven...
Rather appropriate, don'tcha think??? :D
Michale
I have to admit, North Carolina came as a surprise to me.. With the runup to the election, even WaPo election lab was calling NC for the Dems....
NOBODY called NC for the GOP....
So, that was definitely a surprise....
Michale
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but there are still 3 outstanding Senate seats...
Virginia, which will likely go Dem, but not be a pickup for Dems..
Alaska, which will likely go GOP and WILL be a pickup for the GOP...
Louisiana, which has the runoff and will likely go GOP and WILL be a pickup for the GOP..
So, by my count, when all is said and done, it will be 46 Dem 54 GOP....
Anyone concur???
Michale
I can promise ya'all one thing..
If Obama insists on pushing thru Amnesty for immigrant criminals against the will of the American people, there is no way in hell that the GOP will work with him on ANYTHING...
So, Obama is faced with a choice..
He can have his Amnesty for criminals.
Or he can have a decent legacy...
But he cannot have both...
Michale
Ahhhhh Now I see why Alaska hasn't been called...
http://www.adn.com/article/20141104/sullivan-lead-holds-alaska-us-senate-race-begich-wont-concede
Begich is being a sore loser....
Michale
The Republicans are guaranteed 56 seats in the Senate so all they need do now is to buy another 11 to ensure they have a veto-proof majority. They have unlimited money behind them so that shouldn't be a problem. Even if that plan does go awry (and it's hard to see how it could), all they need to do is load all their favourite bills into the budget and pass it with a reconciliation vote. When the President vetoes it, they can shut down the government and this time let it go through to default. It almost worked worked for them last year (except they pulled out too soon) and any fallout will be seen as Obama's fault so it's all win/win for the GOP.
Congrats Mopshell!
You win the award for most non-serious, time-wasting comment ever to see the light of day at http://www.chrisweigant.com
That's quite a feat, you know.
Mopshell,
They have unlimited money behind them so that shouldn't be a problem.
How is that any different than what Democrats have been doing for six years??
Even if that plan does go awry (and it's hard to see how it could), all they need to do is load all their favourite bills into the budget and pass it with a reconciliation vote.
Exactly as Democrats had done...
You seem to disparage Republicans for doing the exact same thing that Democrats do...
Why is that??
Liz,
Congrats Mopshell!
You win the award for most non-serious, time-wasting comment ever to see the light of day at http://www.chrisweigant.com
That's quite a feat, you know.
I guess someone pee'ed in your cheerios this morning, eh Liz?? :D
Michale
Michale,
I'm a rather cheerful gal, once ya get to know me.
I know it's going to be hard for ya'all not to dwell in the depths of cynicism.. Gods know if things had gone the other way, I would be wallowing myself..
But look at this as an opportunity...
If the GOP is as bad as ya'all claim and as evil as ya'all claim and as incompetent as ya'all claim, then there is nothing to stop a huge Dem Tsunami that will make 2014 look like a puddle ripple...
Michale
I'm a rather cheerful gal, once ya get to know me.
I have no doubt.. :D
Michale
M -
I concur 54R:46:D, assuming the Louisiana runoff is settled R as expected. You called this one absolutely right! You have the right to remain insufferable for 2 years. This is where we place the tiara on your head (crying is customary for the winner) and remind you that if for any reason you cannot fulfill your duties ... etc, etc. You are only as good as your last prediction!
Am I surprised? Not really. Using final 538 eve o' the elections odds table, my quick and dirty rank ordered model says Republicans had a 71% chance of taking control of the senate, and a 31% chance of winning 24 or more races. That's outperforming expectations, but not crazy outperforming. I haven't had a chance to calculate the NYT and HufPO last minute calls, but they would certainly be similar to the 538 pattern.
This was almost a pure wave election, and the wave broke strongly towards the Republicans in the final week. Virginia was the only race that bucked the wave trend. Virgina came close to being one of those "anomalies" that show up in about 30% of random and independent simulated elections.
My simulations indicated a wave election improved the Dems chances of retaining control, but the downside of the wave pattern was that if the wave went against them, they had a tendency to lose more seats than if the states behaved more independently! The downside is exactly what happened last night.
You have the right to remain insufferable for 2 years.
MORE insufferable??? :D I wouldn't have thought that possible, but I'll give it my best shot.. :D
I have to be honest and say my faith was faltering towards the end.. There just seemed to be TOO much good news and I was beginning to think that the results could, NO WAY, live up to the hype...
But it did and that, in and of itself, is amazing...
And, can you believe the Goober races!?? Holy crap, a GOP Gov in Illinois.. Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that...
Michale
Another thing that has (pleasantly) surprised me is that there hasn't been any (relatively speaking) hysterical cries of voter fraud, cheating or anything like that..
I would have thought that Dems would be climbing the walls with claims of fraud....
Maybe they are still shell-shocked...
Or maybe they are growing up....
Michale
You have the right to remain insufferable for 2 years.
MORE insufferable??? :D I wouldn't have thought that possible, but I'll give it my best shot.. :D
Naaaw, I'll likely gloat for the rest of the day, but we're all friends here.. I also know that it could have just as easily gone the other way and may do exactly that in 2 years.... :D
But I cannot lie. I will definitely enjoy the day... :D
Michale
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/05/Obama-Aide-He-Doesn-t-Feel-Repudiated
I have a feeling that Obama isn't going to change his ways...
If Obama insists on fighting the country *AND* the GOP, then I wouldn't give Democrats much of a chance in 2016....
Michale
"The Obama era is over."
-Huffington Post Editor Howard Fineman
I have waited five long years for this moment...
Michale
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/5/hurt-america-faces-most-dangerous-two-years-150-ye/?page=1
Ya know... Hurt shouldn't keep it all inside. He should tell us what he REALLY thinks... :D
Michale
Even if that plan does go awry (and it's hard to see how it could), all they need to do is load all their favourite bills into the budget and pass it with a reconciliation vote.
Exactly as Democrats had done...
You seem to forget that THAT is exactly how TrainWreckCare was passed...
Michale
Hay Joshua,
Any new wardrobe pics for us??? :D
Sorry, that was unkind... :D
Bad Michale!! BAD Michale!!! Sit!!!!! Stay....
Michale
Well, I guess Obama's idea of "gracious" is not what we would expect "gracious" to be...
But, it was about par for the course for Obama...
He cannot even CONCEIVE that his policies are bad, even when he clearly states that those policies are on the ballot and the American people respond with a resounding "HELL NO!!!"...
There is simply no working with such a president who is completely delusional about where the problem is....
Michale
I mean, seriously...
What part of "NO!!!" does Obama not understand????
Michale
I think we had this conversation 4 years ago...
Apparently, Obama hasn't learned a damn thing....
Michale
No, I was not forgetting how the ACA was passed and I'm equally confident that the Republicans haven't forgotten either. It will be sweet revenge for them to abolish the ACA in exactly the same way. But they may not need to. SCOTUS will of course find in favour of the subsidies being illegal. That alone will obliterate the ACA.
With nothing left to save and no support whatsoever, Obama might as well go golfing every day for the next two years or resign along with every other Democrat. Personally, I'd prefer they did the latter. Give it all to the Republicans. The people have spoken. This is what the majority want for crying out loud.
Mopshell,
The End is near. Civilization as we know it is in jeopardy.
With nothing left to save and no support whatsoever, Obama might as well go golfing every day for the next two years or resign along with every other Democrat. Personally, I'd prefer they did the latter. Give it all to the Republicans. The people have spoken. This is what the majority want for crying out loud.
I know you are being facetious but you ARE correct..
The American people HAVE spoken...
The problem is that many on the Left, INCLUDING Obama, simply refuse to accept it...
Michale
There's a lot of talk among frightened Democrats of immigrating to other countries. Articles on where to get immigration information and which countries are most likely to accept US immigrants, are popping up everywhere. This will further reduce the number of Democratic votes in 2016. Not that it makes much difference. Very very few Democrats will be voting in 2016 anyway.
There's a lot of talk among frightened Democrats of immigrating to other countries. Articles on where to get immigration information and which countries are most likely to accept US immigrants, are popping up everywhere. This will further reduce the number of Democratic votes in 2016. Not that it makes much difference. Very very few Democrats will be voting in 2016 anyway.
Aww, yer just saying that to be nice.... :D
Michale
"You should know that the cure was excruciatingly painful for me.."
"Awww, yer just saying that to be nice.."
-STARGATE ATLANTIS
:D
Michale