Obama Hits A Milestone
President Barack Obama just hit a milestone in public job approval. At Real Clear Politics, his daily rolling average of public opinion polls just went over 50 percent. Unless they are edited late in the day (which sometimes happens), Obama currently merits 50.4 percent approval and only 45.7 percent disapproval from the polled public.
This is a fairly momentous milestone for Obama, one he's only managed to hit in four different previous periods of his presidency. His first "honeymoon" period, after he was sworn in, lasted until roughly November of 2009 (he still charted daily numbers over 50 until February of 2010, but the trendline was down and by March he wasn't even hitting 50 on single days anymore).
Right after his first midterm election, Obama very briefly rose above 50 percent (mostly as a result of a budget deal, if memory serves), in January of 2011. But after briefly hitting 51.0 percent, his numbers quickly slid back down again in the following month. Obama got a second bounce in the polls in May, with the news of the death of Osama Bin Laden. But while this bounce went higher (52.6 percent), he again slid back below 50 in June.
Remarkably, Obama spent almost all of the re-election season in 2012 below 50, only briefly scraping it (50.0 percent) in September, and only really climbing above it in a sustained way in November -- after the election. This is remarkable for anyone who wins re-election, since job approval (in election years) often translates into how most people vote. His "second honeymoon" lasted until March of 2013, and then (after touching 50.0 for a single day in April) Obama's numbers headed downwards.
Obama hasn't seen his job approval this high since that point. For the past 37 months, Obama has been below 50 percent. Which is why hitting the milestone again is such good news for him, for Democrats, and for Obama supporters in general. How the public feels about a sitting Democratic president correlates with how well his party does in an election year, for the most part. This doesn't always hold true, though, since polling itself hasn't been around that long and not all presidents complete two terms in office.
The past three who have done so, at this point in their presidency, stood at 27.8 percent (George W. Bush), 59.1 percent (Bill Clinton), and 49.5 percent (Ronald Reagan). Bush, obviously, wasn't popular and Barack Obama won. Reagan was roughly as popular as Obama is now, and was indeed succeeded by a president from his own party. But Clinton was still wildly popular, and Al Gore lost (well, admittedly, the Supreme Court had their say in that election). So being up in the polls is no guarantee of success.
Even so, it certainly doesn't hurt the Democratic Party's chances. Especially when you consider that this improvement in the polls has perfectly matched the primary season. Obama's poll numbers were pretty dismal last December (hitting a low of only 43.1 percent), but since then -- since voters started paying attention to the race to replace Obama -- his numbers have been heading upwards at a fairly quick pace. And while the whole game of guessing why poll numbers head one way or another is an inexact science at best, this time it's pretty plain that the election is the deciding factor. There have been no big bills passed, no big fights with Congress, and few large political events that have even pushed the election news off the front page in the past six months.
The question with any polling trend, of course, is how long it can be sustained. There are only really three possibilities -- Obama's numbers go back down, they stay where they are, or they continue heading upwards. Unforeseen events can always have a huge influence on what happens, too (an "October surprise," no matter what month it comes in). Any sort of crisis could change things quickly, in other words.
But the safe bet at this point is that Obama's numbers will continue improving, at least up to the low 50s or so. That's the way the trend has been heading, after an initial steeper upsurge from January through March. Obama is already getting numbers in the 51-53 percent range in individual polls, and it seems a lot of people are reconsidering how they feel about Obama when faced with the choice of the two candidates who might replace him.
With Congress at an almost-complete standstill, it's not likely that anything major is going to be legislatively accomplished between now and the election. Paul Ryan is desperately trying to get people to pay attention to his grand rollout of the Republican agenda (as he defines it), but so far his effort is falling far short of the "Contract With America" bar set by Newt Gingrich. Obama's not going to get much of his agenda through the House, but the House Republicans can't even agree among themselves on pretty much any of their agenda either.
Which means we've got nothing to pay attention to in the political world but the presidential race from now until November. So far, this has been extremely helpful to Obama's approval rating, and now that the Republicans are stuck with Donald Trump, it's hard to see the next five months as being anything but even more helpful in that regard. Winning three straight presidential terms is an almost-impossible feat in American politics -- it's only happened once in my lifetime, in fact (George H.W. Bush following Reagan). But the chances of it happening this year are certainly a lot better now than they were six months ago. If Obama can continue to improve his job approval numbers over the next few months, those chances will get even better.
-- Chris Weigant
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"the Republicans are stuck with Donald Trump"
They're really not stuck with him, but they are weak and stupid just like he says they are. Once the convention is over, he'll be through with the GOP and their teleprompters. He's too racist even for the Republicans already, but they ain't seen nothin' yet.
They're going to wait until it's too late. Feckless!
John McCain's idiotically vile comments about BHO were kind of Alzheimerish. He seems to be having false hallucinations about who created that whole disastrous mess in Iraq. It's Bush's fault.
Thanks Bush voters!
as opposed to real hallucinations?
Precisely.
So, you all consider "real" to be the opposite of "false"?
True.
THIS is what passes for serious conversations around here??? heh :^D
It's funny... When Trump was allegedly insulting McCain, McCain was the Left Wingery's cat's meow...
But now that McCain has the complete and utter audacity to accurately depict Obama's role in terrorist attacks in the US???
Now, he is attacked and ridiculed..
The political bigotry is ripe.... :^/
Michale
Thanks for playing, Michale. Geesh.
John McCain knows very well why Iraq is a mess and it has nothing to do with the quality of American leadership ... if you know what I mean and I'm not sure that you do.
John McCain knows very well why Iraq is a mess and it has nothing to do with the quality of American leadership ... if you know what I mean and I'm not sure that you do.
When Obama prematurely left Iraq, it WASN'T a "mess"..
It was a “sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government.”
So said President Obama...
The total "mess" that is Iraq and the rise of the Daesch is the complete and utter fault of this current administration..
Thanks for playing, Michale. Geesh.
It just chaps my ass that I get dinged for being "non serious" and the guy that speaks in tongues, is all about the color of people's skin, lives in a fantasy world and should come with a universal translator is taken seriously...
I mean, honestly.. If THAT is what passes for "serious" around these here parts, thank gods I am not "serious"... :D
Michale
He's too racist even for the Republicans already,
This has already been proven (with facts) to be REALLY FALSE....
Michale
But facts don't matter when bigotry is in the air... :^/
Michale
Michale,
If you read comment #10 again, very carefully, you may discover why Iraq is a mess.
You, and John McCain, will be taken seriously when you begin to attribute responsibility to the appropriate parties.
If you read comment #10 again, very carefully, you may discover why Iraq is a mess.
Yes. Hussein Obama prematurely left Iraq, against the recommendation of EVERY military officer in his administration..
The military TOLD Odumbo that to prematurely leave Iraq would likely result in the rise of a brutal terrorist entity..
And lo and behold, the Daesch fulfilled that prescient warning...
You, and John McCain, will be taken seriously when you begin to attribute responsibility to the appropriate parties.
Yea... The Orange men and Donald Drumpf... :^/
If THAT's what passes for "serious" around here..
No thanks... I would rather be non-serious, sane and factually accurate...
Michale
When looking for the responsible parties, Michale, you really need to broaden your horizon.
Take a look at the entire Middle East, including Israel.
What do the countries that are the hottest trouble spots have in common? Or, should I ask, what do they not have?
Hay Joshua....
Is it too late to change which T-SHIRT you will have to wear when Comey recommends indictment?? :D
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTExMFg4NzA=/z/n4QAAOSw3mpXEFdZ/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F
I am definitely getting me one of these!!! :D
Michale
Take a look at the entire Middle East, including Israel.
What do the countries that are the hottest trouble spots have in common? Or, should I ask, what do they not have?
Oh yea, if you cast a net far and wide, I am sure you can come up with SOME sort of semi-reasonable culprit so as to fade the heat from Odumbo...
But that will not change the fact that Odumbo left Iraq too early over the objections of the military..
And the Daesch is a direct result of that boneheaded move..
Odumbo was more concerned about his legacy than he was about the safety of Americans...
And San Bernardino, Orlando, Brussels and ParisX2 is a DIRECT result of that selfishness...
These are the facts that no amount of spin can change..
McCain called it dead on balls accurate...
But no comment on the fact that McCain was the Democrat's cat's meow when Trump was attacking McCain?? Back then it was all about how McCain was honorable and a hero and Trump was a scumbag..
Now that McCain has put responsibility for the Daesch where it belongs, now McCain is senile....
Michale
Oh yea, if you cast a net far and wide, I am sure you can come up with SOME sort of semi-reasonable culprit so as to fade the heat from Odumbo...
But that will not change the fact that Odumbo left Iraq too early over the objections of the military..
And the Daesch is a direct result of that boneheaded move..
Odumbo was more concerned about his legacy than he was about the safety of Americans...
Kinda hard to carry on a serious debate when I use Odumbo all the time, iddn't it..
Well, welcome to my world... :D
Michale
I mean, seriously...
Odumbo dismissed the Daesch as "The JV" and said it was "contained"...
How many times is Odumbo going to be WRONG before ya'all start to question his competence???
How many INNOCENT people are going to have to die before ya'all sit up and say, "Hmmmmm... This doesn't seem to be working..."
A hundred?? A thousand?? A million??
How many innocent lives??
"How many people does it take, Admiral, before it becomes wrong? Hmm? A thousand, fifty thousand, a million? How many people does it take, Admiral?"
-Captain Jean Luc Picard, STAR TREK IX, Insurrection
Michale
Don't take my word for it..
The most recent Islamic act of war, in which self-professed Islamic State jihadi Omar Mir Seddique Mateen slaughtered 49 people and injured scores of others at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., should be a game changer. The deadliest attack on U.S. soil since Sept. 11, 2001, should finally convince our leadership that dealing with the Islamic threat must no longer be business as usual.
Don't hold your breath.
President Obama has run national security policy only to serve his leftist agenda, not American interests and security. After nearly eight years of deliberate U.S. inaction and impotence, the Islamic State now leads the global jihad, including within our own borders. And it should surprise no one that the president will never fight the war in any meaningful way.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/15/how-obamas-failed-leadership-is-literally-killing-/print/
Michale
What boggles MY mind is how can Obama's approval be going UP in the eye of Americans when there is so much blatant and obvious incompetence...
The high approval rating is completely inconsistent with the facts on the ground...
It's likely we are simply seeing a delay between cause and effect...
Michale
Islamic State will intensify its global terrorism campaign by directing as well as inspiring attacks in the U.S. and elsewhere, despite its mounting territorial and financial losses in Syria and Iraq, CIA Director John Brennan said.
The organization “will probably rely more on guerrilla tactics,” such as the attacks in Paris and Brussels in the past year that were directed by its leadership, Brennan told the Senate Intelligence Committee at a hearing on Thursday. It will also seek to inspire more attacks similar to those in San Bernardino, California, in December and in Orlando, Florida, this week, he said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-16/cia-chief-says-islamic-state-plans-to-intensify-attacks-globally
Nothing to see here, sheeple...
The Daesch is nothing but the JV and it is contained...
Move along... :^/
Michale
Congratulations, Michale ... you've managed to hijack another comment thread.
When will Chris say enough is enough?
Congratulations, Michale ... you've managed to hijack another comment thread.
of course, it's *MY* fault..
"John McCain's idiotically vile comments about BHO were kind of Alzheimerish. He seems to be having false hallucinations about who created that whole disastrous mess in Iraq. It's Bush's fault."
-JFC
*THAT* had nothing to do with it.. :^/
Michale
Hell, I am the ONLY one who HAS commented on the commentary subject..
"What boggles MY mind is how can Obama's approval be going UP in the eye of Americans when there is so much blatant and obvious incompetence...
The high approval rating is completely inconsistent with the facts on the ground...
It's likely we are simply seeing a delay between cause and effect..."
All the rest of the comments are about McCain, Daesch and Odumbo..
INCLUDING ya'all's!!!
So, don't try and pin this one on me... That dog just won't hunt...
Michale
Ya'all take a commentary down a certain road and then whine and blame me when I whack ya'all's pee-pees on the subject that ya'all started..
Why not start accepting some responsibility for things??
Just like Odumbo... It's ALWAYS someone else's fault..
NO ONE here is to blame for ANYTHING... It's all Michale's fault.. :^/
I guess it must be a Left Wingery thing... :^/
Michale
Hypersensitive, much?
NO ONE here is to blame for ANYTHING... It's all Michale's fault.. :^/
Well, you are the ONLY one around here who hijacks comment threads. So, you know ...
Maybe you should try another tactic. You may be pleasantly surprised by the response.
Hypersensitive, much?
When I am unfairly blamed?? You betcha...
I admit that there ARE times when I go off on a tangent.. On Fridays especially..
But THIS is not one of those times..
"There will come a day when your people will be welcome back here to Atlantis. But this is not that day.."
-Commander Atlantean Warship Thea, STARGATE: ATLANTIS
Well, you are the ONLY one around here who hijacks comment threads. So, you know ...
Despite ALL the facts....
"John McCain's idiotically vile comments about BHO were kind of Alzheimerish. He seems to be having false hallucinations about who created that whole disastrous mess in Iraq. It's Bush's fault."
-JFC
..... to the contrary.
Maybe you should try another tactic. You may be pleasantly surprised by the response.
Maybe YOU should try sticking to the facts.. YOU might be pleasantly surprised by the response..
http://sjfm.us/temp/65864669.jpg
I'll be around if you want to apologize for the false accusation...
Michale
I don't apologize.
ON TOPIC
THIS is exactly why I can't understand why Obama's approval numbers are so high...
December 2015: Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, a married Pakistani couple, stormed a San Bernardino County government building with combat gear and rifles and opened fire on about 80 employees enjoying an office Christmas party. They killed 14 after pledging loyalty to ISIS. A third Muslim was charged with helping buy weapons.
July 2015: Mohammad Abdulazeez opened fire on a military recruiting center and US Navy Reserve center in Chattanooga, Tenn., where he shot to death four Marines and a sailor. Obama refused to call it terrorism.
May 2015: ISIS-directed Muslims Nadir Soofi and Elton Simpson opened fire on the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland, Texas, shooting a security guard before police took them down.
April 2013: Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Muslim brothers from Chechnya, exploded a pair of pressure-cooker bombs at the Boston Marathon, killing three and wounding more than 260. At least 17 people lost limbs from the shrapnel.
September 2012: Terrorists with al Qaeda in the Maghreb attacked the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, killing the US ambassador, a US Foreign Service officer and two CIA contractors. Obama and then-Secretary of State Clinton misled the American people, blaming the attack on an anti-Muslim video.
November 2009: Army Maj. Nidal Hasan opened fire on fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas, killing 13. Obama ruled it “workplace violence,” even though Hasan was in contact with an al Qaeda leader before the strikes and praised Allah as he mowed down troops.
June 2009: Al Qaeda-trained Abdulhakim Muhammad opened fire on an Army recruiting office in Little Rock, Ark., killing Pvt. William Long and wounding Pvt. Quinton Ezeagwula.
The US has suffered a serious terrorist attack EVERY YEAR of Obama's presidency..
EVERY YEAR.. Sometimes multiple attacks in the same year..
And yet, his APPROVAL numbers are high??
It's mind-boggling...
You see, Liz.. This is an ON TOPIC comment, but it won't be addressed because it bodyslams the Messiah with FACTS...
The litmus test for ya'all is NOT whether it's ON TOPIC or not..
The *ONLY* litmus test ya'all adhere to is whether or not it factually denigrates The Chosen One...
The facts that put Odumbo in a bad light?? Those comments are ignored...
So, please.. Spare me the crocodile tears on "hijacking" commentaries... If I hijacked a commentary to say how awesome Hillary Rhymes-With-Witch Clinton is or how awesome Democrats are or how awesome Odumbo is...
No one here would say dick about any "hijacking"...
"Let me tell you something about those skills, slick. As of right now, they mean precisely dick.."
-Agent K, MEN IN BLACK
Michale
I don't apologize.
I know.. That's part of the problem..
No one here (sans yours truly) can apologize for anything or admit they are wrong about anything..
And THAT is why we have the personal problems we have...
Michale
Besides. Look what happened the LAST time I reigned it in...
I broke Weigantia!!! :D
Michale
Congratulations, Michale ... you've managed to hijack another comment thread.
When will Chris say enough is enough?
Yeah, whose blog is this? There is enough stupidity from the right everywhere else - any chance of a break from the constant stream of drivel? Or is this like the Trump effect, where the outrageous nonsense drives eyeballs and that is most important?
I'm not advocating for a limit of opinions, or even silencing anybody completely, just a break from the constant stream of "revelations" that all other commentators are responsible for anything said anywhere else and are expected to repudiate it; the lack of intellectual rigor when it comes to referencing "facts", etc.
Yeah, whose blog is this?
There's no question as to who'se blog this is and, frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself for even going there...
There is enough stupidity from the right everywhere else
And, NONE from the Left, eh?? :D
Thank you for epitomizing the problem.
Or is this like the Trump effect, where the outrageous nonsense drives eyeballs and that is most important?
Or, more likely, no one here likes the FACTS when the FACTS prove how wrong everyone is..
I'm not advocating for a limit of opinions, or even silencing anybody completely, just a break from the constant stream of "revelations" that all other commentators are responsible for anything said anywhere else and are expected to repudiate it;
As I pointed out to RD a while back, if ya'all were more even-handed in your condemnations then there wouldn't be any issues..
For example...
A gay couple is refused service at a bakery and ya'all went absolutely ape-shit..
A WE SUPPORT TRUMP family was refused service at a burger joint and no one says BOO....
Of course, if ya'all just want to ADMIT your bigotry and hypocrisy, then you can negate 90% of my comments..
the lack of intellectual rigor when it comes to referencing "facts", etc.
I always have my facts at hand..
And *THAT* is what pisses ya'all so much.. Ya'all CAN'T argue the facts, so you make everything about me personally...
Michale
As Liz said.. She doesn't apologize..
No one here does either..
And THAT is why there are problems...
Michale
Or, more likely, no one here likes the FACTS when the FACTS prove how wrong everyone is..
Are FACTS any different than facts?
Hard to take you seriously when your idea of "facts" is to leave a whole bunch out. You complain about leaving Iraq early but don't even mention the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. Who it was signed by and the reasons for it's existence.
As I pointed out to RD a while back, if ya'all were more even-handed in your condemnations then there wouldn't be any issues..
Right back at you. There are some posters here who have criticized Obama more than you have criticized the entire right for the history of this blog. Look in the mirror, or at least re-read your own posts some time...
Of course, if ya'all just want to ADMIT your bigotry and hypocrisy, then you can negate 90% of my comments..
But of course you will not admit to your own...
I always have my facts at hand..
Well, you always have something in hand, facts are rarely one of them...
And *THAT* is what pisses ya'all so much.. Ya'all CAN'T argue the facts, so you make everything about me personally...
Yawn.
Right back at you. There are some posters here who have criticized Obama more than you have criticized the entire right for the history of this blog.
I would ask you to prove that, but I know it's useless to do so.. Because all you ever respond with is "I said it before"...
You complain about leaving Iraq early but don't even mention the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. Who
Because it's not relevant. Obama could have pushed that aside and convinced the Iraqi Government to let US FORCES stay..
Just like he did in Afghanistan...
FACTS....
But Obama didn't WANT to stay in Iraq because he was more concerned about his legacy than he was in preserving the safety and security of Americans...
But of course you will not admit to your own...
I always do....
Well, you always have something in hand, facts are rarely one of them...
Says you.. But you NEVER offer ANY facts to support your claim...
Yawn.
TRANSLATION: I HAVE NO FACTS TO SUPPORT MY POSITION
Michale
I wonder how much of this Obama uptick is simply Trump Effect. After a nice upward trend from becoming the presumptive nominee, Trump has been having an awful and undisciplined June... The Press is having more Murrow Moments, Republican Leaders are having second thoughts, his polls are down and he's down in the Markets as well. Compared to Trump, Obama suddenly looks better to some fence sitters, and his popularity swings up a bit in response.
I don't take my own hypothesis all that seriously, but it's fun to speculate during the current political doldrums between Primaries and Conventions.
By the way, I think Trump is smart not to pivot on the bigotry plank. His base doesn't want it, and nobody else will take a pivot seriously. Hail Mary is the best play he's got. Forget the competitive states, hell, go for NY and CA! Trump's best hope is the Micawber Strategy: Namely, "something will turn up" - in October.
Every time I have ya'all on the ropes, you turn around and make personal attacks on me in an effort to distract from the main argument..
It happens every time, like clock work...
If ya'all spent a TENTH of the time actually addressing my facts that ya'all spend attacking me personally...
EVERYONE would be a lot happier...
JFC went off topic with his attack on McCain.. I proved beyond ANY DOUBT that McCain was dead on ballz accurate in his assessment...
Did anyone address ANY of those facts??
Of course not.. It was all about MICHALE you post too much!!! Waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa
You want to talk facts, then talk facts..
If you want to just make personal attacks??
Fine.. But don't bitch and whine when I respond...
Michale
I wonder how much of this Obama uptick is simply Trump Effect.
That could be..
After a nice upward trend from becoming the presumptive nominee, Trump has been having an awful and undisciplined June...
Somebody better tell Trump and his supporters that! :D heh
The Press is having more Murrow Moments, Republican Leaders are having second thoughts, his polls are down
What country are YOU in???
and he's down in the Markets as well.
As I have shown, markets are useless... They call races when it's obvious who the winner is...
Namely, "something will turn up" - in October.
It usually does..
But I think Trump is keeping his powder dry(-ish) until FBI Director Comey announces his recommendation to indict Hillary Clinton et al..
Michale
What country are YOU in???
Well, my IP address sez UK, heh, heh.
What state are you in?
You complain about leaving Iraq early but don't even mention the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. Who
Because it's not relevant. Obama could have pushed that aside and convinced the Iraqi Government to let US FORCES stay..
Just like he did in Afghanistan...
FACTS....
See, now if this were a discussion between two RATIONAL and non-Party slave people, YOUR response would be:
"That's a good point, Michale. Obama COULD have pushed it in Iraq as he did in Afghanistan.. That's a very good point, Michale. I should have thought of that... Kudos..."
But, unfortunately, it's NOT a discussion between two RATIONAL and non-Party slave people.
It's a discussion between ONE Rational person (that's me) and ONE Party-slave...
That's you...
Michale
What country are YOU in???
Well, my IP address sez UK, heh, heh.
Ahhh.. What ya think about the Brexit??? :D
What state are you in?
State Of Aggravation.. :D
Michale
See, now if this were a discussion between two RATIONAL and non-Party slave people, YOUR response would be:
If this was between two rational people you would not have put in "non-Party slave people", nor would you have characterized the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement as not relevant. If you want a sense of decorum, you must show it yourself...
I was looking for denial but would have accepted confusion. Sorry, not a match, the board goes back....
UK politics is much harder to call than the US variety. 50:50?
On the merits, I lean towards Brexit being a badish idea, benefits oversold, risk understated. Brexit is forgetting the grand strategy lessons of WWII(linked economies promote military stability among nations). Brexit might revive Scotchit, which was a very near run thing a wee bit back. I thought that a bad idea. The idea of reviving the British Commonwealth as an economic lever strikes me as delusional.
Unforeseen consequences are a bitch. Like British destroyers losing power in warm water.
As the saying goes, "There will always be an England," but possibly not linked to Scotland, Wales or N. Ireland in future.
Bashi,
If this was between two rational people you would not have put in "non-Party slave people",
I callz 'em as I sees 'em... Your head is so far up Odumbo's ass, it's impossible to know where he ends and you begin...
nor would you have characterized the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement as not relevant.
It wasn't relevant in regards to Afghanistan... Why is it relevant with regards to Iraq?? Oh yea, that's right. Your head... Odumbo's ass...
If you want a sense of decorum,
Son, I gave up expecting ANY sense of decorum around there here parts a long time ago....
you must show it yourself...
I do.. Every day.. Witness the discussion me and TS are having.. Respectful, non-agressive, no name calling or personal attacks..
My recent discussions with Listen is another perfect example..
Once again, you (and those that think like you) refuse to accept ANY responsibility for your actions or personal attacks..
It's ALWAYS someone else's fault..
Michale
I was looking for denial but would have accepted confusion. Sorry, not a match, the board goes back....
I like to do the unexpected... :D
The problem I see is that the EU moved too far, too fast..
The EU felt they could simply ignore the nationalistic feelings of various countries.. So, rather than take things slow and ease people along, TPTB took a OUR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY
approach....
Never ONCE even considering that there are those would WOULD take the highway....
"Hasta Lasagna, don't get any onya..."
-Emilio Estevez, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE
Michale
Oh yea, that's right. Your head... Odumbo's ass...
What was that about "Respectful, non-agressive, no name calling or personal attacks.."
Son, I gave up expecting ANY sense of decorum around there here parts a long time ago....
Then why are you asking for it?
Once again, you (and those that think like you) refuse to accept ANY responsibility for your actions or personal attacks..
It's ALWAYS someone else's fault..
It's hilarious that you can't see that you do the exact same thing. Instead you show pride in acting like a self proclaimed arrogant prick, then feign surprise that people around here treat you like one...
It's hilarious that you can't see that you do the exact same thing.
No, what's hilarious is you have NO FACTS to back up ANY of your accusations..
Can I be an arrogant prick?? Of course.
Do I sometimes go overboard?? Of course..
Am I a royal pain in the ass?? Of course..
Have YOU or Liz or anyone else ever conceded the same??
NEVER...
Liz "doesn't apologize"....
That's the difference between ya'all and me..
*I* take responsibility and admit things and apologize..
None of you ever have...
Michale
*I* take responsibility and admit things and apologize..
On alternate blue moons...
Then why are you asking for it?
When did I ask for a sense of decorum??
I asked for a sense of responsibility..
A request I *KNOW* I'll never see.. But I ask anyways out a fervent hope...
YOU are the one who asked for sense of decorum
If this was between two rational people you would not have put in "non-Party slave people", nor would you have characterized the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement as not relevant. If you want a sense of decorum, you must show it yourself...
But, of course, you will deny this as well... :^/
THAT is your problem.. You never take any responsibility for ANYTHING..
This is like the spamming issue all over again... You and s4david accused me of spamming and when I called you on it and showed you the facts that you did, you denied it and then ran away...
It's your pattern.. You make outlandish accusations without ANY facts and when you get called on it, you deny everything and then when absolute proof is provided by your own words, you bail...
Michale
This is like the spamming issue all over again... You and s4david accused me of spamming and when I called you on it and showed you the facts that you did, you denied it and then ran away...
Tick tock.
*I* take responsibility and admit things and apologize..
On alternate blue moons...
Paula,
I apologize for stating that you, personally, had gone on a Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Disruption/Next Big Marketing Scheme tear....
chrisweigant.com/2015/11/18/republicans-should-pass-an-aumf-or-stop-complaining/#comment-66511
I apologize to ya'all that have to endure this, but when it comes to matters of honor, sometimes it is painful all around..
chrisweigant.com/2014/08/18/perry-case-complicates-boehners-lawsuit/#comment-51876
Blue moons happen a LOT here in Weigantia.. :D
About the only one who apologizes MORE than me is CW.. :D
So, there you have it. FACTS that prove you are completely and utterly full of shit, Bashi.. Maybe I dropped the FOSBashiKook moniker too soon....
This is the time when you usually bail.... :D
Michale
Nobody apologizes more than Obama ... not even you, Michale.
But, I will pardon you ... whenever the spirit moves me.
Nobody apologizes more than Obama ... not even you, Michale.
Troo dat!!! :D
But, I will pardon you ... whenever the spirit moves me.
Your Grace.... :D
Michale
E.G. - Last 20 posts, 60% from one person.
Those were pretty half assed. Alternate blue moons still stands.
This is the time when you usually bail.... :D
Yawn.
Those were pretty half assed. Alternate blue moons still stands.
That was just from 2 mike of looking.....
You Full Of Shit status still stands.. :D
Michale
E.G. - Last 20 posts, 60% from one person.
80% of 60 posts ABOUT that one person..
Duuuhhhhh...
Ya'all don't want to hear from me so much..
Quit talking about me so much...
Again... DUUUUHHHHHHHHH
Michale
Again, if there were a LOGICAL and RATIONAL disucussion, Neil's response would be:
"You're right, Michale. If we don't want to see 60% of 20 posts from 1 person, we shouldn't have 80% of 60 posts ABOUT that 1 person.. You are absolutely right. That is a very good point. Kudos for such a dead on ballz accurate point.. You're awesome..
OK, OK.. I fudged a little on that last part.. :D
Michale
Dear CW readers,
Regarding the strawman in [7]:
John From Censornati wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why Trump swift-boating MacThuselah is a problem for The Donald. Trump is right. JM is a dummy. It is better to not get captured. Trump Nation hates RINOs. McCain should apologize.
Wednesday, July 22nd, 2015 (The Republican Race Tightens)
And JFC tries to hijack this commentary AGAIN!!!
I am sure that he will feel the wrath of GRU, right!!??? :D
Oh of course not.. He has a -D after his name and is a Hillary sycophant..
So he's allowed...
Silly me.. :D
Michale
FOSBashiKook,
Those were pretty half assed. Alternate blue moons still stands.
How many apologies have you issued, Bashi??
Don't tell me, let me guess.. You NEVER have anything to apologize for... Right?? :D
Of course you don't... Yer perfect...
Michale
Hmm, let's see. The subject is Obama's improving popularity. JFC has made three comments on this thread.
[1] JFC directly quoted the author and commented on what he said.
[2] JFC commented on the ongoing Republican strategy of blatantly lying about Obama (and attempting to deflect attention from their own atrocities) in order to dent his popularity.
[63] JFC commented on a dishonest characterization of his previous comment.
JFC is not the hijacker. Lots and lots of projection won't change that FACT.
JFC is not the hijacker.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why Trump swift-boating MacThuselah is a problem for The Donald. Trump is right. JM is a dummy. It is better to not get captured. Trump Nation hates RINOs. McCain should apologize.
NOTHING to do with Obama Poll Watch...
John McCain's idiotically vile comments about BHO were kind of Alzheimerish. He seems to be having false hallucinations about who created that whole disastrous mess in Iraq. It's Bush's fault.
NOTHING to do with Obama Poll Watch...
They're really not stuck with him, but they are weak and stupid just like he says they are. Once the convention is over, he'll be through with the GOP and their teleprompters. He's too racist even for the Republicans already, but they ain't seen nothin' yet.
NOTHING to do with Obama Poll Watch
EVERYTHING you have posted in this commentary, JFC has *NOTHING* to do with the subject of the commentary..
On the other hand, *I* have posted SEVERAL comments on the subject of the commentary and had a very nice discussion with TheStig ON the subject of the commentary...
On the THIRD hand, YOUR comments lead to a PLETHORA of comments that have NOTHING TO DO with the commentary...
So, WHO is the hijacker???
The facts CLEARLY show that it's YOU...
Michale
Once again, another limped dick Left Winger who simply CAN'T take any responsibility for their actions...
Michale
And yes.. That's a personal attack on all LDLW.... Sue me... :D
Michale
Obama also thinks he is getting help from Trump :)
2:40 in (but watch the whole thing):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymGENUjIdIg&feature=youtu.be
Also on Fallon:
Fallon: "Do you think the Republicans are happy with their choice?"
Obama: "We are."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Ijjkt6Fkw
Ahhh yes... The mark of a truly GREAT leader...
He does great sound quips on late night TV.. :^/
No wonder Americans are being brutally murdered by terrorists by the hundreds on our streets....
Obama is too busy polishing up his comedy routine to pay any attention to what is REALLY important..
Michale
Obama also thinks he is getting help from Trump :)
Yea???
Well, Odumbo ALSO thinks that all of the terrorist attacks have NOTHING to do with muslims or islam...
Odumbo thinks that terrorism is a gun control issue...
Odumbo is a moron....
Michale