The (Unrelated) Question I Want Sessions To Answer
This is going to be a disappointing column for some, since I'm not really going to get into my thoughts on the testimony Attorney General Jeff Sessions offered up this afternoon to the Senate Intelligence Committee. Before I feel ready to comment on that particular subject, I've got some research into the history of executive privilege to do (and I suspect I am not alone in that, I might add).
Instead, in all the run-up to Sessions testifying, one particular story caught my eye. Jeff Sessions has been avoiding talking to the congressional committees (both House and Senate) about the Department of Justice's budget, having now missed two scheduled chances to address the committees involved. A few weeks back, he just outright cancelled his appearance. Today, he sent his second-in-command to testify for him. Perhaps he's just leery of facing Senator Al Franken again, who knows? In his answer to Franken's question about Russia, Sessions offered up a sweeping statement that turned out to be a lie, after all. For all his strenuous explanation today, Sessions both lied to Congress about his contacts with the Russians, and reportedly lied on his security clearance application as well. So maybe he's right to be fearful of what Franken's going to ask as a followup.
In any case, the hearings Sessions has been skipping out on deal with his department's budget. Which is what makes this story so germane. Sessions sent a letter a few weeks back to Congress, objecting to what is known as the "Rohrabacher-Farr Amendment." This legislation was enacted by Congress in 2014 as a rider to the budget process, and has been in force in the three years since. But it must be renewed with each year's budget. President Trump has already signed one partial budget (for the remainder of the 2017 fiscal year) with the amendment attached. But Sessions is still fighting hard against it.
The Rohrabacher-Farr Amendment (now sometimes called the Rohrabacher-Blumenauer Amendment, since Representative Sam Farr retired from the House) is a classic example of Congress exercising its authority via the "purse strings." It expressly forbids the Justice Department from spending any money prosecuting anyone who is legally involved in medical marijuana, in the states where it has been legalized. Here is the entire text of the original 2014 amendment:
None of the funds made available in this Act to the Department of Justice may be used, with respect to the States of Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin, to prevent such States from implementing their own State laws that authorize the use, distribution, possession, or cultivation of medical marijuana.
That's it. It zeroes out the budget for any Justice Department entity (including the Drug Enforcement Agency, the F.B.I., and federal prosecutors) for any investigation involving state-legal medical marijuana. Period.
Now, even President Obama's Justice Department tried to fight back against it. They lost, in court. Then they lost their appeal. The initial ruling slammed Eric Holder's reasoning (which can be summed up as "we're just going to ignore this law") with phrases such as: "defies language and logic", "tortures the plain meaning of the statute", and "[is] at odds with fundamental notions of the rule of law."
On May 1, Sessions wrote Congress begging them not to pass the amendment again. He writes (the full letter can be seen on the site that broke the story, MassRoots):
I believe it would be unwise for Congress to restrict the discretion of the Department to fund particular prosecutions, particularly in the midst of an historic drug epidemic and potentially long-term uptick in violent crime. The Department must be in a position to use all laws available to combat the transnational drug organizations and dangerous drug traffickers who threaten American lives.
If Jeff Sessions ever does show up to a budget committee meeting in Congress, this is what I'd suggest someone ask him about. Sessions is trying to conflate the opioid epidemic with medical marijuana. This is not only far from the truth, it is in fact downright counterproductive. The Washington Post helpfully points out why (emphasis added):
Sessions's citing of a "historic drug epidemic" to justify a crackdown on medical marijuana is at odds with what researchers know about current drug use and abuse in the United States. The epidemic Sessions refers to involves deadly opiate drugs, not marijuana. A growing body of research (acknowledged by the National Institute on Drug Abuse) has shown that opiate deaths and overdoses actually decrease in states with medical marijuana laws on the books.
That research strongly suggests that cracking down on medical-marijuana laws, as Sessions requested, could perversely make the opiates epidemic even worse.
This certainly isn't the first time in the long and sordid history of the federal War On (Some) Drugs that counterproductive strategies are fully embraced by the drug warriors to "send the right message." For example, needle exchange programs were attacked during the AIDS crisis, because they "sent the wrong message" on intravenous drug use. The "right message" was, of course: "We don't care if you die a long and lingering death, even if it could be easily prevented, because you are such a bad person for using drugs." This is precisely the same message Sessions wants to start sending once again: "We don't care if you die from an overdose of heroin, because at least we're cracking down on weed."
This is an important issue, in other words. It is not hyperbole to call it a "life or death" issue for thousands. Sessions wants the full weight of the federal government to come down on the side of death -- all to "send the right message" on marijuana. Not even just on recreational marijuana, mind you, but on medical marijuana. Support for medical marijuana is at an all-time high, and it regularly polls above 80 (or even 90) percent support. None of this matters to Sessions.
So while I realize today's testimony was the wrong forum to ask Sessions about his enthusiasm for going backwards 20 or 30 years in the federal War On Weed, I would hope that (sooner or later) he will show up to one of the congressional budget hearings. Because I'd really like to see him answer a few questions on why he thinks it would be a good thing to use limited federal law enforcement resources to harass state-legal medical marijuana providers and patients, in the midst of an opioid crisis.
-- Chris Weigant
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my guess is that people in charge of prosecution want to be able to prosecute anybody they can for anything they can, and don't particularly care how much sense the law makes. if some major opiate trafficker is found transporting marijuana, the AG wants to be able to prosecute him for marijuana distribution, even if it isn't the real reason that particular guy is a target.
i'm not saying i necessarily believe that, but it seems a plausible reason.
JL
About that executive privilege: The president did not invoke executive privilege knowing that Sessions was going to testify, and there is no such thing as the protection that the president might invoke it "some future date." When executive privilege is invoked, it can naturally then be challenged in the courts, U.S. v. Nixon being a prime example of the Supreme Court ruling unanimously against Nixon. Trump's track record in court being what it is to date, why assert executive privilege and face the possibility of another court loss?
So Sessions is seemingly using a nonexistent privilege in order to avoid having to testify while Trump has asserted no privilege. It's as though they're treating executive privilege like a nondisclosure agreement where the executive is free to disclose what he pleases while the "employee" is limited in their speech regarding same. Of course, that's not remotely how executive privilege works.
This is going to be a disappointing column for some, since I'm not really going to get into my thoughts on the testimony Attorney General Jeff Sessions offered up this afternoon to the Senate Intelligence Committee. Before I feel ready to comment on that particular subject, I've got some research into the history of executive privilege to do (and I suspect I am not alone in that, I might add).
I can sum it up for you....
Democrats did not get their smoking gun to impeach President Trump...
Once again, a highly anticipated and milestone hearing that "is sure to bury Trump!!!" was a big HUGE plate of nothing-burgers with sides of fries...
The Dumbocrats have NO FACTS to support ANY accusation against Trump..
It's interesting to note that the Dims have given up on the Collusion question.. They were so hysterical sure about it and now no one wants to even discuss it..
Why??
Because there are simply NO FACTS to support it...
Now the Dims have a new shiny plaything called OBSTRUCTION that ALSO has NO FACTS to support it...
It's becoming unequivocally obvious to the most OBTUSE Trump hater that there is simply no there there....
At the very least, it SHOULD be obvious..
But, haters gotta hate.... :^/
Almost 200 congressional Democrats will be filing a lawsuit today against President Trump regarding his repeated and flagrant violations of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution; republicans are being encouraged to join.
With this filing, Benedict Donald will be facing lawsuits regarding this issue coming at him from every angle: Congress, the AGs of multiple States, and the private sector.
Better lawyer up. Looks like another question for the Supremes.
The Sessions inquisition comes up empty: Trump unscathed after Attorney General's testimony
In his opening statement, Sessions addressed the false assertion that he had not answered a question honestly from Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) at his confirmation hearing. Franken had asked a “rambling” question about claims that “there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump’s surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.” Of course, we know from Comey’s testimony last week that this was false. But Sessions emphasized that he answered that question honestly and forthrightly when he said that he was “not aware of any of those activities.”
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/13/sessions-inquisition-comes-up-empty-trump-unscathed-after-attorney-generals-testimony.html
If Franken had actually been specific in his questioning, he would have gotten the facts..
But Franken wasn't INTERESTED in facts.. Franken was simply interested in scoring political points..
For Franken, it's PARTY first, country a distant third...
But the point is, once again Democrats were gleefully anticipating a killing blow but just came up holding their limp wee-wees in their hands.. :D
Almost 200 congressional Democrats will be filing a lawsuit today against President Trump regarding his repeated and flagrant violations of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution; republicans are being encouraged to join.
And the Party loyalty is front and center once again.. :D
I seem to recall a LOT of hatred from the WPG against Republicans for their constant filing of lawsuits against President Obama..
Ya'all characterized it as an attack on the President and a waste of taxpayer money yada yada yada yada....
I guess lawsuits are perfectly acceptable when they are against a POTUS with an -R after his name.. :D
Just like the President's peons exerting EP are perfectly acceptable when the POTUS has a -D after his name... :D
There simply can be no doubt.. The *ONLY* thing that matters is the '-X' after the person's name.... :D
The facts are as overwhelming as they are conclusive...
With this filing, Benedict Donald will be facing lawsuits regarding this issue coming at him from every angle: Congress, the AGs of multiple States, and the private sector.
All Trump haters...
It's ALL political... That's it..
Odumbo had the EXACT same kind of attacks...
{yaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn}
Interestingly, the conservatives I speak with do not really consider Trump one of them. Rank-and-file Republicans tend to view Trump more as an independent who ran under the Republican banner.
But for the most part, they’re still with him. They appreciate Trump’s “America first” agenda, not because they believe in isolationism, but because they believe the U.S. and its citizens should be the government’s top priority.
The president’s tweets can be as annoying to his supporters as to his opponents, and if there is a common criticism it is that he should tweet less. But his inability so far to overhaul health care, enact tax reform, destroy the Islamic State or “drain the swamp” is largely blamed on overreaching courts and the open “resistance” that appears dedicated to opposing anything Trump wants.
-Gary Abernathy
Meanwhile back in Ohio, Mr. Abernathy finds that constant negative coverage of Mr. Trump in the national media is still not having the intended effect, and may even be backfiring:
While Trump carried Highland County heavily, there are people here who did not vote for him and who do not care for him. But overall, despite the avalanche of negative news stories, Trump’s support remains firm. Hillsboro’s mayor mentioned recently that he has noticed Trump yard signs popping up again, either in a show of support or a sign of defiance.
What will it mean for elections in 2018 and 2020? When it comes to appraising Mr. Trump’s personality or his tweeting or the way he conducts a meeting, voters might choose to agree with Democrats--and still vote against them.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/would-trump-voters-choose-him-again-1497301080
Who could have predicted that the unfair, hysterical and over-reaching negative aggression of the Left Wingery and it's attack dogs in the Media would actually STRENGTHEN President Trump amongst patriotic Americans..???
Oh... Wait.. :D
Recordings of the Comey-Trump meetings would clear this up. The president has suggested they may exist and Mr. Comey said he would be happy to have them released. They should be, but even if they corroborate Mr. Comey’s recollections, House Select Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said recently that he still believes there is no “credible evidence that there was any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian government.” Everyone seems to agree that the Russians “attempted” to interfere, but no one claims that attempted interference affected the outcome. Hillary Clinton lost and so did Democrats — at all levels across the country. They need to get over it and figure out why.
The word “hypocrisy” was invented for such moments. The left is suddenly aghast about lying, but was fine with Barack Obama’s numerous lies, from “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor,” to Benghazi, “Fast and Furious,” the “red line” in Syria and the list goes on. Let’s not even get started with the Clintons. They’re serial liars.
Yep... Yep.... Yep.....
Media reaction swiftly followed Mr. Comey’s testimony. The New York Times and The Washington Post seemed to favor Mr. Comey. A Wall Street Journal editorial even said Mr. Comey “should have resigned if he believes what he now says.” Charles Hurt, editorial page editor of the conservative Washington Times, summarized his view of Mr. Comey’s testimony: “The only verified leaker exposed: Jim Comey. The only person we know is not and never was under investigation for ties to Russia: Donald Trump. The only person exposed for trying to influence an election: [Obama attorney general] Loretta Lynch. The only paper accused of publishing fake news: The New York Times. The only person who attempted to obstruct justice: Loretta Lynch and probably Bill Clinton.”
Dead on ballz accurate...
Even the reliably liberal Chris Matthews of MSNBC said: “The assumption of the critics of the president, of his pursuers, you might say, is that somewhere along the line in the last year the president had something to do with colluding with the Russians … to affect the election in some way. And yet what came apart this morning was that theory.”,
The collusion hysteria??
"It's dead, Jim"
Let it rest in peace.....
Democrats have nothing, other than more of the same failed policies, which have contributed to their recent election losses. They are banking on undermining the president by accusation and insinuation.
The major media — which Mr. Trump regard as the mother of all liars — are in bed with his Democratic critics, while dismissing the lies of Democrats past and present. And that’s no lie.
Yep.. yep.. A thousand times.. Yep....
No facts.... NO FACTS...
The Left Wingery has absolutely NO RELEVANT FACTS...
None... Nothing.... Zero... Zilch.... Nada.....
And the more the Democrats hysterically drag this out, the more the country suffers...
And the American people will remember who caused their suffering and vote accordingly...
As they did in 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016....
Michale
5
If Franken had actually been specific in his questioning, he would have gotten the facts..
At last... progress... an admission from Michale that Sessions did not exactly answer giving facts... commonly referred to as lying.
"They seem to have collective amnesia about meeting with Russian officials during and after the campaign and only remember when they have been caught," Franken said. "They are not acting like a group of people with nothing to hide."
Perhaps if Sessions had simply answered the question that Franken asked him instead of volunteering false information that was not asked, and now Poor Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III wants us all to simply believe he's the victim of questioning...
Such are the hazards of raising your hand and swearing to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. :)
At last... progress... an admission from Michale that Sessions did not exactly answer giving facts... commonly referred to as lying.
Once again, putting words in my mouth.. That IS annoying.. :D
Sessions answered the question that Franken asked... That was all Sessions was required to do..
It's not Sessions fault that Franken is a Party nimrod and tool and doesn't know how to conduct proper questioning..
Look, I get it.. Your candidate lost the election. It pisses you off.. You would do ANYTHING to nullify the election...
But the facts clearly show that there was NO COLLUSION between the Trump campaign and Russia....
"Let it go..."
-Elsa, FROZEN
:D
Look, I get it.. Your candidate lost the election. It pisses you off.. You would do ANYTHING to nullify the election...
And let's face the facts and reality..
Nullifying a legitimate, fair and legal election is the *ONLY* thing that all this is about...
Democrats simply CANNOT accept the fact that they were completely and utterly DEVASTATED by DONALD TRUMP...
And they are going to do everything in their power in collusion with Trump haters from the Right, no matter how illegal, immoral or unethical to nullify that election where they were so devastated..
Dumbocrats lost... They need to accept that and do what's good for the country..
NOT what's good for Democrats...
"So say we all"
-Battlestar Galactica
Michale
7
Odumbo had the EXACT same kind of attacks...
I will agree that it does come with the territory.
Those who were cheering on the years of Benghazi committees and multiple investigations covering the same issue have gone from saying, "If there's nothing to find, then what difference does a 9th investigation make?" are now running around with their hair on fire screaming: "Nothing to see here, no facts, shut it down."
Buckle up. This ride is just getting started, and it looks like it'll probably outpace Watergate, Benghazi, and maybe even Iran Contra, where the investigation spanned about a decade.
This concludes today's episode of Karma: Ain't it a Witch. :)
I will agree that it does come with the territory.
Exactly...
We have seen this kind of hysterical obstruction before...
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/fmr-fbi-supervisor-comey-likely-behind-three-anonymous-stories/
As the saying goes, it's not the crime, it's the cover-up..
If Comey have been a man about it and gone to the reporter hisself, ya'all might have a case that what Comey did was not illegal...
But the fact that Comey used a "friend" to leak the documents proves beyond ANY doubt that Comey KNEW he was committing a crime..
Michale
11
Once again, putting words in my mouth.. That IS annoying.. :D
Note to self... and by "self," I mean YOURself! :)
Sessions answered the question that Franken asked... That was all Sessions was required to do..
Partly... and he also volunteered some lies. If that was all he was required to do then there would have been no need whatsoever for him to go back and amend his written answers provided to same committee. Then there's the issue of the same omissions on the SF-86... a whole lot of amnesia surrounding the same issue. Sessions, Flynn, and Kushner all seem to be suffering with that same affliction.
It's not Sessions fault that Franken is a Party nimrod and tool and doesn't know how to conduct proper questioning..
Aren't they all just "Party nimrods." Party nimrods should always endeavor to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth regardless of the questions of the other Party nimrods... along with the written questions from the Committee nimrods and the SF-86 from the OPM nimrods.
Look, I get it.. Your candidate lost the election. It pisses you off.. You would do ANYTHING to nullify the election...
And with that nugget, you demonstrate without doubt that you do NOT, in fact, "get it."
But the facts clearly show that there was NO COLLUSION between the Trump campaign and Russia....
Then you have not a thing in the world to worry about and no need whatsoever to run around Mach II with your hair on fire.
Hey, I have a question. So raise your hand and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth... now pay attention:
What if the facts show collusion? Lordy, what if there really are tapes?
45 is catching on to the fact that the RWNJs don't really care about his popularity - they just want to pay off their masters (note to Michale and Altohone - yes I know the Dems also have to pay off their masters, so we are really just beholden to a slightly different set of masters since there is probably a 75% overlap).
Sessions real hard on is the old Mary Jane - he can't stand people having fun I guess. Coupled with the huge payback from MJ delegalization - getting to put more brown people into jail!
Going after MJ will be deeply unpopular, so bizarrely 45's ego might be the best friend the MJ legalization backers have in this farce of an administration.
Also we discovered today that 45 isn't the only person with age related mental problems - Sessions can't remember much about his time as AG, and he is only been doing it for 4 months.
I will agree that it does come with the territory.
Exactly...
We have seen this kind of hysterical obstruction before...
The only difference between now and the ODUMBO years is that Odumbo supporters were, pretty much, left alone...
Trump supporters are constantly attacked, assaulted and demonized on practically a daily basis..
Note to self... and by "self," I mean YOURself! :)
Exactly.. :D
What if the facts show collusion? Lordy, what if there really are tapes?
If ya'all EVER get any facts that show collusion then I will be the FIRST one to change my position..
But Dumbocrats have been at this for over a YEAR and there has not been a single solitary HINT of a real fact...
Hell, even NEIL admits that the collusion crap is a big old nothing-burger...
And Neil is a commenter whose opinion I value thirdly most of all....
And with that nugget, you demonstrate without doubt that you do NOT, in fact, "get it."
Oh no, I do get it..
The Left hates Trump and will do ANYTHING to nullify his election..
But, as usual, the Left is looking to cut off it's nose to spite it's face...
Because if the Left gets rid of Trump, it will be President Mike Pence... Despite Balthy's hilarious fantasy that impeachment of Trump will lead to President NOT-45, the simple fact is, if the Left succeeds, it will bring about President Mike Pence..
And it is universally acknowledged that President Pence will be 10 times worse for Democrats than President Trump could EVER hope to be....
A small part of me wishes that the Dumbocrats succeed, just so I can rub THAT in their faces on a daily basis!!!
"That rhymes, Marge!! That rhymes and you know it!!!"
-Homer Simspon
:D
Anyone wanna lay down any wagers that Trump will fire Mueller??? :D
5 is catching on to the fact that the RWNJs don't really care about his popularity - they just want to pay off their masters (note to Michale and Altohone - yes I know the Dems also have to pay off their masters, so we are really just beholden to a slightly different set of masters since there is probably a 75% overlap).
Like I said....
3rd most valued opinion... :D
Going after MJ will be deeply unpopular, so bizarrely 45's ego might be the best friend the MJ legalization backers have in this farce of an administration.
And therein lies the evidence that Trump is better for the Dumbocrats than Pence could EVER be...
If you get past all the hysterics and felgercarb, Trump and the Dumbocrats see eye to eye on many different issues..
But Dumbocrats can't get past their own egos and the fact that Trump showed them up as the utterly and completely incompetent nimrods they are... :D
Ahhhh reliving the ecstasy that was 9 Nov 2016.... :D
Never underestimate the power of the Police/Prison/Forfeiture lobby. Big money and big toys are at stake.
Neilm "Sessions real hard on is the old Mary Jane - he can't stand people having fun I guess." That's the old Calvinist/American fear that never quite goes away. Somebody, somewhere may be having fun.
Never underestimate the power of the Police/Prison/Forfeiture lobby. Big money and big toys are at stake.
Forfeitures made a BIG, a HUGE hike under the Odumbo administration..
A fact no one here is willing to acknowledge...
Michale
Anyone wanna lay down any wagers that Trump will fire Mueller??? :D
You will lose that one. Trump can't fire Mueller.
Dems rebuff skeptics: We will keep talking about Russia
Great... That guarantees a better GOP majority in the House and Senate...
Talking about Russia is GREAT.... For the Dumbocrat Party...
But the American people want Congress and the POTUS to do the jobs they were hired for...
And if Dumbocrats get in the way of that??
The American people will fire them...
It's THAT simple...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4603404/Steve-Scalise-aides-SHOT-baseball-practice.html
Like I said....
The violence and hatred coming from the Left Wingery is unprecedented..
The Left has now taken to trying to assassinate Republicans...
Kick,
You will lose that one. Trump can't fire Mueller.
Trump can order Dep AG Rosenstein to fire Mueller..
And, since the reason for Sessions recusal has now been rendered moot, Sessions can un-recuse himself and carry out the President's order to fire Mueller..
Mueller can be fired.. This is fact...
Mueller can be fired.. This is fact...
And I would *LOVE* to see that happen!! :D
The violence and hatred coming from the Left Wingery is unprecedented..
And we are jumping to conclusions again. Let's wait and see what the motives are ... you know, let the police do their job.
And we are jumping to conclusions again. Let's wait and see what the motives are ... you know, let the police do their job.
It's funny how ya'all want to "wait and see" whenever it's the Left Wingery is on the hot seat...
Zimmerman, Wilson, Pateleono.....
But when it's a Right winger who is on the hot seat..
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!
Fine, you can wait... I already know the motivations and the associations the would-be assassin has...
And I know it's true because I used to live on Whidbey!! :D
Did ya'all "wait and see" with the Portland slashed those 2 guys throats??? No, ya'all went hysterical because ya'all THOUGHT it was a Trump supporter...
Boy did ya'all have egg on yer face when it turned out to be a Bernie supporter..
Did ya'all "wait and see" when Giffords was shot???
No, ya'all went hysterical, accusing Sarah Palin of being responsible...
So, please.. Spare me the "wait and see"....
It IS logical to do so, I concede.. But ya'all don't have the moral foundation to make the request...
Further, from what I am seeing, it's plenty cut and dried as to the motivations..
I could be wrong.. Been known to happen..
But I don't think I am wrong in this case...
It's being reported that the shooter asked who was on the field, Democrats or Republicans.. Upon being told REPUBLICANS, he started to open fire..
It's pretty cut and dried the motivations here...
You forget what I did for two and a half decades...
Michale
29
Trump can order Dep AG Rosenstein to fire Mueller..
And he would likely refuse. Trump would then have to fire Rosenstein and find another Deputy AG that would fire Mueller. It would echo the Saturday Night Massacre by Nixon during Watergate, and that decision was the beginning of the end for Dick.
And, since the reason for Sessions recusal has now been rendered moot, Sessions can un-recuse himself and carry out the President's order to fire Mueller..
You need to find a better source of information; yours is really bad. Did you listen at all to the testimony of Sessions? He testified that he was effectively recused from the investigation since Day 1 when he was sworn in as AG.
Sessions: "I recused myself, not because of any asserted wrongdoing, or any belief that I may have been involved in any wrongdoing in the campaign," Sessions said, "but because a Department of Justice regulation ... I felt, required it."
The rule that Sessions cited — 28 CFR 45.2 — states that DOJ employees may not "participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome."
Mueller can be fired.. This is fact...
Like I said: Trump can't fire Mueller so you'd lose your bet. :)
Did ya'all "wait and see" when Giffords was shot???
No, ya'all went hysterical, accusing Sarah Palin of being responsible...
That "ya'all" was more directed to the Left Wingery in general..
In the case of the Portland slasher, I *KNOW* for a fact that ya'all, either by commission or omission, when hysterical, blaming Trump...
The Giffords shooting was quite a bit longer and, while I am sure that many here DID hysterically blame Palin , more than a few of ya'all were't here at the time.. So it would be unfair to blame those, even though it's a near certainty that they would have joined in the Palin accusations...
And he would likely refuse. Trump would then have to fire Rosenstein and find another Deputy AG that would fire Mueller. It would echo the Saturday Night Massacre by Nixon during Watergate, and that decision was the beginning of the end for Dick.
Which still doesn't mean that Trump couldn't or wouldn't do it..
That also presupposes that Rosenstein would refuse, which is highly unlikely..
You need to find a better source of information; yours is really bad. Did you listen at all to the testimony of Sessions? He testified that he was effectively recused from the investigation since Day 1 when he was sworn in as AG.
Sessions recused himself due to the Russia/Collusion bullshit.. Since that bullshit has been exposed AS bullshit, Sessions recusal is no longer needed...
Nothing can stop Sessions from reassuming his position..
Like I said: Trump can't fire Mueller so you'd lose your bet. :)
So, we're back to arguing what the definition of "IS" is... :^/
Mueller can be fired... This is fact...
Mueller can be fired... This is fact...
ANd it's also fact that Trump would be giving the order to fire Mueller to whomever ended up implementing Trump's order...
You want to play semantic games, but the simple fact is Mueller CAN be fired... And, if Mueller IS fired, it will be because Trump ordered it..
Regarding the Scaliase assassination attempt..
THis is what happens when the Left Wingery as a whole puts out the idea that attacking, shooting and killing Republicans is perfectly acceptable...
There will be those nut jobs who think such hysterics is a bona-fide invitation....
TWO Republican CongressCritters were shot...
Dumbocrats are going to pay the price for this and heavily....
Balthasar,
C'mon, Trump is an overprivileged effete boor of a man, and that's before we even get to his politics. So, no, I do not think highly of those who think him qualified to hold America's highest office.
Where were you about an hour ago???
today's RCP polling average puts the president at 38.6% approve, 56.0% disapprove. donald really needs some good news. there will be an independent investigation into the russia thing, and he can't fire his way out of it.
of greater concern is the senate secretly voting on their own adaptation of the AHCA. i wonder how many millions of people will lose insurance under this version.
JL
Kick,
It's also funny how you ignore the fact that Mueller, by law is FORCED to recuse himself from the investigation..
The law you quote says the AG *MAY* recuse himself...
The law governing Special Prosecutors say that the SP *SHALL* recuse himself..
Mueller has a clear conflict of interest and he should step down..
The fact that Mueller refuses proves he is not the honorable Republican ya'all claim him to be...
It's a witch hunt, pure and simple..
An attempt to nullify a legal, legitimate and fair election...
That is ALL that this is....
JL,
there will be an independent investigation into the russia thing, and he can't fire his way out of it.
Wanna bet?? :D
of greater concern is the senate secretly voting on their own adaptation of the AHCA. i wonder how many millions of people will lose insurance under this version.
Probably less than when Odumbo broke his promise and caused tens of millions of Americans to lose their healthplan or their doctor...
@m,
i'm concerned about your recent trend of proposing bets that are heavily stacked against you.
JL
Neil,
Rep. Mark Walker says gunman targeted congressional baseball practice 'to kill as many Republican members as possible'
http://theweek.com/speedreads/705653/rep-mark-walker-says-gunman-targeted-congressional-baseball-practice-kill-many-republican-members-possible
One of these days when the facts prove it beyond ANY doubt whatsoever...
Ya'all will acknowledge that SOMETIMES, I do actually know what i am talking about....
I await that frabjous day with abandon.. :D
i'm concerned about your recent trend of proposing bets that are heavily stacked against you.
Because they are NOT "heavily stacked against" me if one looks at the FACTS rather than only look at what one WANTS to believe..
The recent Presidential Election is a perfect example...
The still more recent Comey interview is another... :D
This latest violence against Republicans can be laid DIRECTLY at the feet of the Dumbocrats and Left Wingers who advocate or approve of, either by commission or omission, violence against those who have different political beliefs...
You people have been warned time and time again where cheerleading violence, either by commission or omission, against Trump supporters is going to lead....
And here we are....
Michale
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You want to play semantic games, but the simple fact is Mueller CAN be fired... And, if Mueller IS fired, it will be because Trump ordered it..
If I had said Mueller couldn't be fired, you would have a point, but I didn't... so you don't. Trump can't fire Mueller; he would have to order someone else to fire him.
You're whining right now about Republicans being fired on by a shooter while completely oblivious that the exact same thing is symbolically happening to Mueller by his fellow Republicans.
Trump isn't preparing to fire Mueller. What he's doing is worse.
http://theweek.com/articles/705363/trump-isnt-preparing-fire-mueller-what-hes-doing-worse
Since Comey's testimony last week made it clear that President Trump may very well have obstructed justice by firing the former FBI director, it has been Defcon 1 in Trump world. They know that Comey alone probably can't bring down Trump, and therefore the president's apologists have pointed the firehose of innuendo, fabrication, and exaggeration at Mueller himself. All of these viral spores — the Drudge links and fever-swamp hit pieces — are designed to infect the broader public with doubt and hostility toward Mueller's investigation of the alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives seeking to undermine America's democracy. The axis of fabulist websites like Polizette and Breitbart is working overtime to discredit Mueller, operating hand in hand with their more mainstream handmaidens in the Republican mediasphere.
Just don't be fooled about what they're really up to.
...
Why is the GOP, once again, willing to to debase itself to prevent the whole truth from coming out? If Trump and his advisers are genuinely innocent of collaboration with the Russians, or of other Russia-related financial and political malfeasance, why wouldn't they simply shut up and get out of the way?
The answer to that question could very well determine how much longer Donald Trump will be the president of the United States.
_____________________
Trump ordering someone to fire Mueller would be the second dumbest thing he has done as POTUS to date, the first being his firing and subsequent character assassination and lies he is disseminating regarding James Comey. If Trump is so innocent, why the need to assassinate the character of Comey and Mueller?
Time to clue in to the fact that a con artist is attempting to play you for a useful idiot, and this is exactly how his game is played if you allow it.
The recent Presidential Election is a perfect example...
that was barely more than a coin flip. betting on the supreme court reinstating the travel ban, or that trump can end the independent russia investigation by firing mueller, those outcomes are both extremely unlikely.
JL
If I had said Mueller couldn't be fired, you would have a point, but I didn't... so you don't. Trump can't fire Mueller; he would have to order someone else to fire him.
"A difference which makes no difference IS no difference"
-Spock
JL,
that was barely more than a coin flip.
You can spin it however you wish..
But the simple fact is, ya'all looked at your cherry picked facts and exclaimed that Trump will lose, some of ya'all even claiming that NOT-45 would win in a 50-state romp..
I looked at ALL the facts and stated for the record that Trump would win the election...
I not only called the race, I also nailed the *EXACT* EC count at the time of the election..
You can call that a "coin toss" if it helps you get thru the day.. :D
But, I looked at the FACTS and called it.. Ya'all looked at only what you WANTED to believe and were wrong..
Kick,
Trump ordering someone to fire Mueller would be the second dumbest thing he has done as POTUS to date, the first being his firing and subsequent character assassination and lies he is disseminating regarding James Comey. If Trump is so innocent, why the need to assassinate the character of Comey and Mueller?
Oh pullleeeezzzeeeee... The entirety of the Left Wingery has been assassinating the character of the President for over a year now...
Mr Pot, here's Ms Kettle...
:D
"KILL AS MANY REPUBLICANS AS POSSIBLE"
-Congress Gunman
Who could have POSSIBLY predicted this!???
Oh.... wait....
But, I looked at the FACTS and called it.. Ya'all looked at only what you WANTED to believe and were wrong..
by "ya'all" you clearly don't mean me, yet i'm the one you're responding to. the independent russia investigation will continue to its conclusion, and firing mueller would only intensify it.
JL
by "ya'all" you clearly don't mean me, yet i'm the one you're responding to.
I concede that you weren't as hysterical as your fellow Weigantians..
But you said that Trump had only a 30% chance to win whereas I said that Trump WAS GOING to win..
So, yes... When I say "hysterical" I clearly don't mean you..
In any case, I am comfortable with my positions vis a vis wagers..
the independent russia investigation will continue to its conclusion,
Just like the Benghazi investigation continued to it's conclusion...
and firing mueller would only intensify it.
Yes, it will make the Dumbocrats more hysterical this is true.. It will likely also force said Dumbocrats to overreach and do stoopid stuff like make statements and do actions that encourage deranged gunmen to take out Republicans...
You recall how the American people turned against the GOP over Benghazi??
You would think that the Dumbocrats would take a lesson from that...
LEFT-WING TWITTER CELEBRATES SHOOTING OF REP. SCALISE
https://news.grabien.com/story-left-wing-twitter-celebrates-shooting-rep-scalise
The Left Wingery in all it's "Tolerant" and "Peaceful" glory.. :^/
This is the Left Wingery today.....
The Left Wing gunman obviously forgot Michelle Obama's words of wisdom..
"When they go low, we aim high"
:^/
But when it's a Right winger who is on the hot seat..
You are so full of it Michale :)
geez it's like hinkley. i hope everyone is okay and recovers.
You are so full of it Michale :)
Nope, just a veteran of such actions.. :D
I gave two perfect examples right off the bat...
Mich [57]:LEFT-WING TWITTER CELEBRATES SHOOTING OF REP. SCALISE
So, in the wake of a horrible event, you're using a right wing roundup of trolls to troll us, to make the point that we're wrong? That's hutzpah.
Neil,
Belleville suspect killed in congressional shootout belonged to anti-GOP groups
Congressional Shooter Recently Wrote, "It's Time To Destroy Trump & Co."
Hodgkinson letters: ‘I have never said life sucks, only the policies of the Republicans’
You have to concede....
I called it dead on balls accurate.....
Left Winger nut job who hates Trump and Republicans to the point of murderous violence...
Typical Left Winger...
So, in the wake of a horrible event, you're using a right wing roundup of trolls to troll us, to make the point that we're wrong? That's hutzpah.
No, I am using FACTS that show that the Left Wingery en masse support, encourage and advocate violence against Republicans..
Don't come whining to me because the FACTS prove my claims...
[63] Typical Left Winger...
"Typical" has a specific meaning. If this were 'typical' it wouldn't be such an unusual event, now would it?
I can't believe you're trying to score cheap political points with this.
Ahhhhh
Congress baseball gunman was a Trump-hating Bernie supporter: Hero cops kill white Illinois man, 66, who opened fire on Republican lawmakers with an assault rifle, leaving four injured
Scumbag Left Winger gunman was a Bernie Bro...
I wish I could say I was surprised, but I am not..
The Portland slasher was also a Bernie Bro....
Ya'all seeing the patter that I am seeing??
I am sure ya'all do, but I know you refuse to concede it...
No, I am using FACTS that show that the Left Wingery en masse support, encourage and advocate violence against Republicans..
You've demonstrated nothing, save for your taste for partisan blog fuel. Poor Scalise: first shot, then used as fodder for rightie ranting.
Let's face reality here, people..
From Kathy Griffin to Shakespeare in the Park to the Left Wingery in general..
Violence and attacks and assaults against Trump, Trump supporters and Republicans are PERFECTLY acceptable in the eyes of the vast majority of the Left Wing...
The facts that support this conclusion are simply too numerous and too dead on balls accurate to support any other conclusion...
President Trump is calling for unity.. And I am all for that..
Once the Left starts reigning in their violence advocating scumbags...
Dumbocrat leaders put targets on every Republicans backs when these so-called "leaders" started attacking Republicans as "terrorists" and "arsonsists" and "hostage takers"....
The blame for this latest assassination attempt lands squarely and completely at the feet of these Dumbocrat so-called "leaders"....
You've demonstrated nothing, save for your taste for partisan blog fuel. Poor Scalise: first shot, then used as fodder for rightie ranting.
Typical Lefty...
Blames everyone else for everything else and then dodges responsibility when the FACTS show them clearly to blame...
Man up and take some responsibility for the Left Wingers that do this kind of crap..
A lone Righty does something stoopid or heinous and you blame the ENTIRETY of the Right Wing....
A Lefty who is a member of Anti GOP groups tries to ASSASSINATE GOP leaders and to you, it's a one-off and has NOTHING to do with the Left Wing as a whole..
Yer hypocrisy is NAUSEATING.....
"Typical" has a specific meaning. If this were 'typical' it wouldn't be such an unusual event, now would it?
You mean like all the violence committed against Trump supporters??? Yea.. That's typical...
I can't believe you're trying to score cheap political points with this.
You mean like you and Paula did with the Portland slasher??? Who turned out to be a BERNIE BRO!!???
At least when I point the finger at the Left, it's dead on ballz accurate!!
Ya'all can't even assign blame properly....
Balthy,
Yer in hysterical damage control mode..
That's all it is...
I called this dead on ballz accurate from the instant of the first report...
Yer playing Dumbocrat CYA.... That's all....
Virginia Shooting Suspect Was Distraught Over Trump’s Election, Brother Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/politics/virginia-shooting-suspect-james-hodgkinson.html?_r=0
And, like a typical Left Winger, since he was distraught and he had all these indications from Dumbocrat leaders that Trump was a loose cannon that's going to destroy civilization and that Republicans were going to help, he figured he was being given the go ahead to take out as many Righties as he can...
Who could have POSSIBLY predicted that all these hysterical calls for violence from the Left would produce this kind of response...
Oh wait..... :^/
Yer in hysterical damage control mode..
I'm not the one filling the page with punctuation.
You're trying so desperately to assign collective guilt for this, you've forgotten that he used a GUN.
A true lefty would have yelled 'racist!', insulted his intelligence, then covered him with egg yolks.
“I am sickened by this despicable act. Let me be as clear as I can be. Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms.”
-Bernie Sanders
Yea???
Were you so sickened that you condemned all the violence against Trump supporters??
Were you so sickened that you condemned a Left Winger play that acted out the bloody assassination of President Trump???
With all due respect, Sanders...
FRAK you...
You Left wingers have absolutely NO PROBLEM with violence until such time as it is politically correct TO have a problem with violence...
The time to condemn this kind of violence is BEFORE it happens, Sanders...
Where was your condemnation then???
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Yea, that's what I thought...
Frakin' useless luser....
I'm not the one filling the page with punctuation.
No, you're just the one filling the page with self-serving bullshit that has nothing to do with facts or reality...
You're trying so desperately to assign collective guilt for this, you've forgotten that he used a GUN.
Ahhhh... So it's the GUN's fault!!
BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Once again, typical Left Wingery response..
It's not the scumbag Dumbocrat's fault..
His *GUN* was responsible!!!
Please look in a mirror and tell me how pathetic you look...
A true lefty would have yelled 'racist!', insulted his intelligence, then covered him with egg yolks.
As the FACTS clearly show, a true lefty slashes people's throats and throws molotov cocktails and shoots people...
Face the facts balthy.. Your Dumbocrat support of violence is responsible for this..
Man up and admit the facts...
The scumbag Democrat gunman was from Illinois...
How did he know where Republicans were practicing baseball at 0700hrs???
Did Nancy Pelosi tell him?? Maxine Waters???
Resist movement, violence are tearing America apart
Antifa, others terrorizing America
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/14/resist-movement-violence-threaten-united-states/
Yep...
Left Wingers advocate violence because they lost the election.....
The first skirmishes of a second American civil war have begun. No, this is not a metaphorical analogy to that bloody conflict that killed approximately 620,000 Americans. It is an objective statement of the reality in America.
Since the election of 2016, the left has gone crazy. Their version of the Tea Party is called “Resistance” and the spearhead of that is a loosely formed terrorist group called “Antifa.” Antifa is short for Anti-Fascist. The irony of their name is not lost on those who actually know history, as their tactics are straight from the fascist playbook.
In the last few months, these groups have repeatedly disrupted peaceful pro-Trump rallies. They have called for and used violence against people who support the president, disagree with them and even against members of the media who will report things Antifa doesn’t want reported.
Just a few days ago, a woman associated with Antifa attacked a police horse, using a flagpole with nails extending out from it. At the same incident in Pennsylvania, other Antifa terrorists had sharpened bamboo poles and baseball bats.
There is ya'all's Left Wingery of the here and now...
Aren't ya'all so proud?? :^/
Hey CW and gang
If anybody has time to stop thinking about the Russia distraction efforts, and gun nuts...
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/13/the-real-threat-to-wall-street-reform-is-the-treasury-department-not-congress/
The victims of the last economy crashing orgy of fraud on Wall Street are still suffering, and Trump and Republicans are getting ready to allow the next orgy of fraud to begin.
A
“Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It’s Time to Destroy Trump & Co.”
-Democrat Scumbag Shooter
The quintessential Left Winger......
You've demonstrated nothing, save for your taste for partisan blog fuel.
I am not doing anything that ya'all wouldn't be doing if the Partys were reversed..
You proved that beyond ANY doubt with the Portland slasher you tried to paint as a Trump supporter, but he turned out to be a Bernie Bro...
At least *MY* condemnation is an accurate representation of THE FACTS.....
Antifa Stabs Police Horse in Neck at Pennsylvania Demonstration
https://heatst.com/politics/antifa-member-attacks-and-stabs-police-horse-at-pennsylvania-demonstration/
Democrats..... :eyeroll:
Hey CW
Some progress here, though it came up short-
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/13/saudi-arms-sale-senate-opposition-rand-paul-chris-murphy/
47 to 53 to block an arms sale to Saudi Arabia.
The last attempt was 27 to 71.
Did anyone read the previous link about the secret lobbying meeting on the issue with the Senate by the Trump admin?
It seems the public is being denied the right to know why we should keep enabling/collaborating and profiting off Saudi war crimes... using our bombs, intelligence, refueling tankers and blockade participation against Yemen.
A
GOP rep. received threatening email with subject line 'One down, 216 to go...' after lawmaker shooting
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/337782-gop-rep-received-threatening-email-with-subject-line-one-down-216-to-go-after
The facts are clear, people...
This is how the Left Wing operates now....
[78]The first skirmishes of a second American civil war have begun.
You post this after accusing Democrats of inciting violence? And from the Moonie Rag, no less.
Trump supporters have been so smug since they managed to leverage white rage and Russian propaganda to get their Troller-in-chief into office, and have cheered while this walking, talking extended middle finger trashes every decent thing about America in the name of 'sticking it to liberals'.
And they're surprised when the pushback gets violent? No. They're not. They were hoping for this. They've WANTED this so badly, they can taste it. That's why they've been so intent on making sure that every incident, every example of left-on-right violence is duly noted and publicized, so that when the 'crackdown' comes, they will have encyclopedic rationale for it.
This is how authoritarians justify authoritarianism. It's never their fault, they were 'pushed' to deny civil rights, suspend legal protections, etc., etc. Ask a Jew or Russian dissident if any of this sounds familiar.
The world of full of nut jobs. When baited hard enough, some will rise to the occasion.
The question is, which side honestly believes in peaceful co-existence, and the compromise that is required to do that? Not the 'our way or the highway' Trumpettes, that's for sure.
in case it was lost in all the partisan finger pointing, i do hope everyone is okay and recovers, and i'm thankful nobody died except the shooter.
maybe he could have toned it down if he had some medical marijuana...
I know, I know... Ya'all would rather eat broken glass than admit ANY problem with the Democrat Party..
Fortunately, the facts are patently and unequivocally clear so no admission is necessary...
You post this after accusing Democrats of inciting violence? And from the Moonie Rag, no less.
JL, what was that you called something like this??
Absurdum fallacy????
Trump supporters have been so smug since they managed to leverage white rage and Russian propaganda to get their Troller-in-chief into office, and have cheered while this walking, talking extended middle finger trashes every decent thing about America in the name of 'sticking it to liberals'.
Ahhhhh So now, according to you Left Wingers, being SMUG is punishable by firing squad...
Gotcha....
And they're surprised when the pushback gets violent? No. They're not. They were hoping for this. They've WANTED this so badly, they can taste it. That's why they've been so intent on making sure that every incident, every example of left-on-right violence is duly noted and publicized, so that when the 'crackdown' comes, they will have encyclopedic rationale for it.
A new one..
Absurdum violencia justifacucus....
The world of full of nut jobs. When baited hard enough, some will rise to the occasion.
Yea, THAT's your claim when it's a LEFT WING nut job... When it's a RIGHT WING nutjob ya'all paint the entire Right with that brush....
Doubling down on hypocrisy.... GOOD CALL.... NOT....
The question is, which side honestly believes in peaceful co-existence, and the compromise that is required to do that? Not the 'our way or the highway' Trumpettes, that's for sure.
Yea, the Left Wingers who gun down Republicans practicing softball..
THEY surely believe in peaceful co-existence and compromise, right??
My gods, do you comprehend how utterly pathetic you sound???
JL,
in case it was lost in all the partisan finger pointing, i do hope everyone is okay and recovers, and i'm thankful nobody died except the shooter.
maybe he could have toned it down if he had some medical marijuana...
I'll quote this verbatim if a Right Winger goes on a shooting rampage specifically targeting Dumbocrats... :^/
JL, what was that you called something like this??
ad hominem. being a whatever-wing rag doesn't necessarily make a report incorrect.
Balthy,
It's funny how you didn't want to be all mellow and bipartisan when you were so hysterical about the Portland slasher when you thought he was a Trump supporter..
Where was your "peaceful co-existence" bullshit then?? When you THOUGHT you could rake Trump supporters over the coals???
You are so transparently bigoted......
ad hominem. being a whatever-wing rag doesn't necessarily make a report incorrect.
Oh.. OK.. That sounds about right.. :D
Thanx...
I'll quote this verbatim if a Right Winger goes on a shooting rampage specifically targeting
knock yourself out, i'll be saying the same thing then. the most important thing is the well-being of the victims.
This is how authoritarians justify authoritarianism. It's never their fault, they were 'pushed' to deny civil rights, suspend legal protections, etc., etc. Ask a Jew or Russian dissident if any of this sounds familiar.
Of course it sounds familiar..
It's what you have been spewing every since I pointed out the fact that this was a Left Winger scumbag who was intent on killing as many Republicans as he can...
"It's the gun's fault!!" or "It's the smug Trump supporter's fault!!" or any other such bullshit you can spew that prevents you from looking in a mirror and acknowledging the FACTS...
"Maybe it's OUR fault"....
It's never the Party's fault.... :^/
knock yourself out, i'll be saying the same thing then. the most important thing is the well-being of the victims.
Agreed..
And the SECOND most important thing is preventing this from happening again..
THAT means having the Left Wingery and the Democrat Party get their shit together and quit advocating violence against people whose sole "crime" is that they have different political opinions...
How did he know where Republicans were practicing baseball at 0700hrs???
My guess is that he didn't know that they were Republicans. He probably saw all of the law enforcement hanging around and decided to commit suicide-by-cop.
That he was a Bernie supporter and they were GOP congressmen could just be a tragic coincidence.
Or did your partisan mindset cause you to immediately leap to the more convenient explanation?
It's never their fault, they were 'pushed' to deny civil rights, suspend legal protections, etc., etc.
"It's not OUR fault!! We were 'pushed' to attack Trump supporters and shoot GOP'ers because they were SMUG!!!"
Yea, it DOES sound familiar, Balthy...
It's EXACTLY what you are saying right now..
Basically, you are blaming the girl for the rape because she wore a short skirt and a low cut top....
How positively DEMOCRAT of you..... :^/
That he was a Bernie supporter and they were GOP congressmen could just be a tragic coincidence.
OHMYGODS, really!!!???
I honestly am speechless in the face of such COMPLETE and UTTER BULLSHIT.....
Or did your partisan mindset cause you to immediately leap to the more convenient explanation?
No... My two + decades of investigative experience caused me to examine the FACTS and come to the ONLY logical and rational conclusion...
A conclusion that YOU refuse to accept because you are so fucking enslaved by Party dogma you can't form a complete thought without having it checked by Party fanatics for purity.... :^/
A conclusion that YOU refuse to accept because you are so fucking enslaved by Party dogma you can't form a complete thought without having it checked by Party fanatics for purity.... :^/
OK, that got away from me and my apologies..
It's just the idea that it was all a COINCIDENCE that GOP leaders were shot by a Bernie Supporter and a Trump hater was just too much to process logically and rationally.....
[98] My two + decades of investigative experience caused me to examine the FACTS and come to the ONLY logical and rational conclusion...
My 2+ decades as a paralegal taught me to wait for evidence to be developed before leaping to a conclusion. We really don't know very much about this yet, save for some sensationalized tidbits.
Ya'all simply are incapable of believing that, when it comes to issues and incidents such as these, I *DO* know what I am talking about...
It's just the idea that it was all a COINCIDENCE that GOP leaders were shot by a Bernie Supporter and a Trump hater was just too much to process logically and rationally...
But at this point, it's a possibility you have to seriously consider, until further evidence is introduced that either confirms of discounts it.
My 2+ decades as a paralegal taught me to wait for evidence to be developed before leaping to a conclusion.
I had all the evidence I needed..
How do we know this??
**BECAUSE I WAS DEAD ON BALLZ ACCURATE!!!!**
We really don't know very much about this yet, save for some sensationalized tidbits.
Typical.. When it's a Left Winger who is the scumbag, we mustn't "rush to judgment"... When it appears to be a Right Winger or a Trump Supporter, it's OFF WITH HIS HEAD....
We know all we need to know the conclude this scumbag's motivation..
The *ONLY* issue for you is that you don't LIKE where the facts lead you so, as is typical, you simply ignore the facts...
But at this point, it's a possibility you have to seriously consider, until further evidence is introduced that either confirms of discounts it.
It's only a possibility in the minds of Left Wing/Dumbocrat morons who can't have a SINGLE independent thought that goes against Party slavery...
But I am SURE you don't know anyone like that.... :^/
But, by all means.. If you have to believe that it's all one big coincidence to make it thru your day???
Far be it from me to stand in the way of your delusions... :^/
[101] Ya'all simply are incapable of believing that, when it comes to issues and incidents such as these, I *DO* know what I am talking about..
Then make me a believer. Give me reasoned argument, rather than links to hack websites.
Indeed, your question, 'how did he find his way to that ballpark at 7 a.m.?' is a very good one. That's thinking like an investigator.
My 2+ decades as a paralegal taught me to wait for evidence to be developed before leaping to a conclusion.
A lawyer!!!???
Why am I not surprised.. :^/
Then make me a believer. Give me reasoned argument, rather than links to hack websites.
I have given you a reasoned argument..
You just don't like the reasoning..
I knew what it was before ANY of those "hack" websites had a clue about anything...
You can deny all the facts you want... But that doesn't make them any less factual..
This scumbag was a Democrat, a Bernie supporter who had laced his facebook page with many MANY anti-GOP quotes including KILL AS MANY REPUBLICANS AS YOU CAN.. The gunman was quoted as asking who was on the field, Democrats or Republicans, moments before shots rang out...
Now, I don't know what it's like in YOUR neck of the woods but around these here parts, 2+2 STILL equals 4...
Indeed, your question, 'how did he find his way to that ballpark at 7 a.m.?' is a very good one. That's thinking like an investigator.
But you won't like the conclusion..
This would support the possibility that this scumbag did not act alone... That there may be other shooters out there gunning for Republicans...
It's only a possibility in the minds of Left Wing/Dumbocrat morons who can't have a SINGLE independent thought that goes against Party slavery...
The only responses that I've seen from Democratic leaders is sympathy for the victims. If there's a party line today, it's, "Poor man, I hope he's okay."
The only responses that I've seen from Democratic leaders is sympathy for the victims. If there's a party line today, it's, "Poor man, I hope he's okay."
Of course.. What do you expect when the shooter is one of their own???
What do you EXPECT them to say??
I can promise you that their responses would have been a LOT different if the shooter had been some Right Wing scumbag.....
But here's the thing..
Maybe those Dumbocrat leaders should condemn the violence from the Left **BEFORE** it happens..
Whooaaaaa Whatta concept....
Maybe those so-called "leaders" should condemn the violence of a Left Wing play that depicts the President Of The United States being brutally murdered...
Whoooaaaaa Whatta concept....
Condemn violent BEFORE it escalates into a shooting rampage...
Now THAT would be leadership...
there may be other shooters out there gunning for Republicans...
or Democrats. Gabby Giffords, remember?
The world sucks. Make you a deal: I won't blame you for nutjobs who shoot congresswomen or black prayer groups and you don't blame me for nutjobs that use half-assed congressmen for target practice.
But THAT would go against Party dogma...
Republicans are the "enemy"... Republicans are terrorists!!! Republicans are hostage takers!!!! Republicans are arsonists!!!!
What the FRAK do you THINK would come from such heated and violent rhetoric!!!!???
"THINK, MCFLY!!! THINK!!!"
or Democrats. Gabby Giffords, remember?
Yea, I remember... The guy who shot Giffords was a liberal pothead...
And ya'all blamed Palin in the immediate aftermath of the shooting..
Funny how you didn't want to "wait for evidence" then, eh???
The hypocrisy is nauseating....
Maybe those so-called "leaders" should condemn the violence of a Left Wing play that depicts the President Of The United States being brutally murdered...
Oh, right. This came about because a production of Shakespeare in the Park made up Julius Caesar to look like Trump. That leftie writer sure hated Roman emperors.
Seems I remember a lot of signage on the right depicting Obama as Heath Ledger's Joker, a violent criminal who also ends up dead in the third act.
I don't recall you complaining about that.
The guy who shot Giffords was a liberal pothead...
the guy who shot giffords was a paranoid schizophrenic, politically independent, used drugs and alcohol to self-medicate. neither liberal nor pothead, as those things are generally defined.
[112]Yea, I remember... The guy who shot Giffords was a liberal pothead..
Actually, no. He was a paranoid schizophrenic who should have never been allowed near a gun, but since you bring it up, he also seems to have been posting Right Wing rants just prior to his crime.
Palin was criticized because, prior to the shooting, she'd posted a map of 'targeted' congressmen, including Giffords, using 'crosshairs' (like gun sights) to indicate their districts. She reacted to this criticism by posting on Twitter: "'Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!'", which, I guess was her way of calming everything down.
As of today, there is widespread anguish over yet another politically motivated shooting. A lot is coming from Republican lips. Good on that, but I note Sharron Angle (2010), Ted Cruz(2015), Sarah Palin (2010) and Donald Trump (2016) have all made explicit public allusions to applying 2nd amendment solutions to political differences that vex them. Loudly, and with no apparent shame (at least at the time).
The Republican position could be easily confused with "Second Amendment Solutions for me, but not for me." Maybe both parties can call a truce on the terrorism front? Recant a few ill considered remarks from the past? Or at least denounce those that made them...and those that cheered them on?
Well, the takeaway is that the whole world seems to have had a really awful, very very bad day today, and all I can say is that if anyone knows one of today's victims - in London, or D.C., or in San Francisco, I hope that you have love and support and a shoulder to cry on.
For the rest of us, buck up, tomorrow is another day when we can hopefully get back to ignoring the tens of thousands of suffering people on this planet, and score a few really good, cheap political points.
Hey gang
It's been a while, but for those who remember the discussion about median income in this country, and for supporters of the Fight For $15, here's a discussion about a new report from the National Low Income Housing Coalition.
http://therealnews.com/t2/story:19315:Earning-Minimum-Wage-Puts-Affordable-Housing-Out-of-Reach
I think it's too bad the interviewer didn't ask about the effects on low income whites, because they face the same problems as minorities.
A brief summary would be that out of 3000 counties in the US, people making minimum wage can only afford housing in 9 of them... and that in many areas, even at $15 per hour, housing remains unaffordable due to skyrocketing rents.
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Hey gang
Here's a good companion piece on the subject of housing
The forgotten History of How Government Segregated America by Richard Rothstein
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=19271
It is an interview that has been broken up into at least 4 parts... only 3 of which have been posted thus far.
File in the category- What they didn't teach you in school
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Palin was criticized because, prior to the shooting, she'd posted a map of 'targeted' congressmen, including Giffords, using 'crosshairs' (like gun sights) to indicate their districts. She reacted to this criticism by posting on Twitter: "'Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!'", which, I guess was her way of calming everything down.
Exactly..
Palin was criticized and THAT is perfectly acceptable..
*I* criticize all the violence and advocation of violence by Left Wingers and THAT is unacceptable..
You see the hypocrisy??
the guy who shot giffords was a paranoid schizophrenic, politically independent, used drugs and alcohol to self-medicate. neither liberal nor pothead, as those things are generally defined.
Yes, that's the spin...
But the FACTS are that his friends described him as a "liberal pothead"...
I know, I know.. It doesn't fit the Party ideology, so it's discarded by the Left..
Which is exactly my point..
ALL shootings, ya'all put it thru the prism of Party ideology......
Irregardless, at the VERY beginning of this, I had the facts that indicated that this was a politically motivated shooting by a Left Wing nut job..
I called it dead on ballz accurate as I had every police shooting that has ever been discussed here in Weigantia..
Regardless, the facts are these..
The Left Wing has a violence problem..
The Left Wing advocates violence to address their Trump hatred...
Democrat Party leaders only give lip service to quell this violence...
Like a traffic cop on valium, Dumbocrat leaders are "shreeeeettt Stooooopp.... Stooooppppppp"
There is no real effort on the part of the Democrat Party to reign in this explosion of violence and violent acts.. In the case of the Trump assassination play, Democrats actively ENCOURAGE such displays of violence...
A turning point has been reached where the Democrat Party will now be on the defensive when it comes to violence...
The hysterical Left base will demand that Democrat leaders support and condone and approve of these acts of violence..
The opinion of the American people will turn against the Left and their espousement and support of this kind of
violence...
What you are witnessing is the beginning of the end of the Dumbocrat's chances to win any seats in 2018...
OK It's being reported that the scumbag Democrat shooter was homeless in DC for the last couple months.. Scumbag Democrat shooter often stayed at the YMCA adjacent to the ballfield.. So he might have been able to learn on his own that this was the location for the Congress baseball team practice..
This would argue against the idea of a conspiracy and more shooters...
Hey Liz
delayed response
I occasionally like to play the contrarian to make a point, but generally I only post links to stories with which I agree.
I happen to agree that when 174,000 construction workers go on strike in Canada, that a supposedly liberal government should support their efforts at negotiating better wages, and NOT pass legislation to criminalize the workers right to go on strike.
I happen to agree that a supposedly liberal government that is supposedly concerned about the climate should not be supporting the extraction of tar sands oil, nor going against the wishes of the public, nor use the power of government to force communities to accept pipelines and export terminals they oppose.
I happen to agree that the supposedly liberal Foreign Minister of Canada should be condemned for saying that war should be accepted as part of Canada's future.
I happen to agree that the supposedly liberal government in Canada should be condemned for misallocating scarce resources on an unnecessary massive increase in military spending that recent history has shown has been used to support unnecessary military interventions in cahoots with the failed US policies that have caused massive death, destruction, instability, refugees by the millions, and increased the threat and size of terrorist groups.
I don't agree with everything in the links I provided, but as you can see, most of it I do.
What do you think?
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The Democrat Scumbag's Facebook page is still active..
https://www.facebook.com/james.hodgkinson.568
That could be the facebook page from ANY Weigantian...
Except for your's truly, of course...
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Obviously, the Repubs don't practice what they preach.
The shooting could have been prevented if they had all been carrying guns.
They should be leading by example and exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.
What is wrong with them going out into a dangerous world unprepared?
Elections have consequences.
Even Obama knew that.
And why weren't there metal detectors at all the entrances?
What, no police snipers on the roof like at NFL games?
We should clearly be launching a commission of inquiry, give Homeland Security and the FBI another trillion dollars, arrest all the homeless people and tear down every YMCA too.
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Hey CW
Looks like Verizon just announced 39 layoffs from HuffPost.
Could it be that their new establishment ideology isn't as profitable as catering to the left?
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Now WaPoop is reporting the Mueller is going after Trump..
ANONYMOUS sources, again...
So much for "honorable" Mueller not allowing any leaks, eh?
Trump is going to have Mueller fired...
@michale,
first of all, you wouldn't know a fact if one bit you on the arse. jared lee loughner was diagnosed with schizophrenia and twice found incompetent to stand trial. his friends didn't understand his political views, because they were incoherent, neither left nor right. second, taking a terrorist attack and treating it as if it were a partisan issue is way out of line.
what is your major malfunction, numbnuts?
~full metal jacket
Michale
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Oh pullleeeezzzeeeee... The entirety of the Left Wingery has been assassinating the character of the President for over a year now...
Mr Pot, here's Ms Kettle...
He hasn't even been president for 5 months yet, and Trump himself has spent years assassinating the character of President Obama and continues to this day, while you've spent years assassinating the character of President Obama and continue to this day... state the obvious... but true to form you are missing the big picture: Comey and Mueller aren't the "Left Wingery."
Trump isn't preparing to fire Mueller. What he's doing is worse.
http://theweek.com/articles/705363/trump-isnt-preparing-fire-mueller-what-hes-doing-worse
Why is the GOP, once again, willing to DEBASE ITSELF to prevent the whole truth from coming out? If Trump and his advisers are genuinely innocent of collaboration with the Russians, or of other Russia-related financial and political malfeasance, why wouldn't they simply shut up and get out of the way?
While you're whining about Left against Right, you're being played as a useful tool to degrade the moral character of the Right... exactly the same thing for which you're condemning the Left.