Friday Talking Points [467] -- Our Racist President
The mainstream media crossed two cultural lines this week, in reaction to one of the most offensive things any American president has ever been caught saying. The first line crossed was to overrule the censors. Standards and practices can't complain when a word used on the news is a direct quote from the president, after all. That would be censorship of a different (and darker) type. Still, last night we were rather surprised to here a reporter on the evening NBC news broadcast actually use the word "shithole." No bleeping, no asterisks, just: here is what the president called some African countries. On broadcast (i.e., non-cable) television, at 5:30 P.M. (not some late-night broadcast, in other words). That is a first in America, to be sure. The Washington Post used Trump's unexpurgated, unbowdlerized quote in so many headlines today it was tough to keep an accurate count.
The second line crossed in the media is that it is now absolutely impossible for honest reporters to deny a basic fact about Donald Trump. He might have gotten away with some lame explanation of "what he really meant" if he hadn't brought up Norway, which made such revisionism all but impossible. Here is how CNN anchor Don Lemon began his show last night:
This is CNN Tonight, I'm Don Lemon. The president of the United States is racist. A lot of us already knew that.
Anderson Cooper, on his own show, also did not mince words:
Not racial. Not racially charged. Racist. Let's not kid ourselves or dance around it. The sentiment the president expressed today is a racist sentiment.
A media observer at the Washington Post reviewed Trump's week on immigration:
On Tuesday, then, we saw Trump on immigration in front of the cameras: restrained and presidential, though clueless. On Thursday, we heard about Trump on immigration without the cameras: an ignorant racist.
Also at the Post, Jennifer Rubin -- a right-wing blogger who even calls her column "Right Turn" -- unloaded on Trump in a single, extraordinarily-detailed sentence:
The man who called Mexicans rapists, who declared he wanted to ban Muslims, who criticized a judge because he was a Mexican American (and therefore, in Trump's twisted mind, could not do his job), who painted African Americans as all living in crime-infested squalor, who said there were good people among the neo-Nazi marchers in Charlottesville, who praised and pardoned Joe Arpaio after he violated the rights of suspected illegal immigrants and who does not have a single nonwhite high-ranking White House staff advisor (and the smallest percentage of female and nonwhite Cabinet officials since Ronald Reagan) is a racist.
There is just no other way to read Trump's many statements on the subject. Countries with brown or black people are bad (shitholes, in fact), but countries with white people are good and we should get more of them to immigrate here. That is some stone-cold racism, folks. Some took it even further, with headlines such as: "Now Can We Call The President A White Supremacist?"
Once again, this puts Republicans in a tough position, that of having to somehow attempt a defense of the indefensible. This entire episode also puts the lie to all of the Republicans who try to spin their anti-immigration position as merely being anti-illegal-immigration. If that were true, they wouldn't be attempting to fundamentally change America's legal immigration policy, by drastically restricting who is allowed in. Even without Trump's naked racism, that is a purely anti-immigrant stance, and Democrats should really be pointing this out to everyone. Democrats want to strike a deal on DACA with perhaps some border security money added on for the Republicans, while the Republicans are trying to abolish both family immigration policy and the diversity lottery system. Even without Trump's racism layered on top of that, it is nothing short of being anti-immigrant, period.
A quick review of the week that led up to Trump's shithole (so to speak): peeved that the storyline making the rounds in Washington was that President Trump was mentally deficient (to be polite), the White House took the extraordinary step of allowing cameras into the first hour of a meeting with congressional leadership over immigration and the DACA bill. During this meeting, Trump essentially agreed with everything everybody said, even when it was directly contradictory to something else he had just agreed with minutes earlier. Senator Dianne Feinstein even got him to agree that passing "a clean DACA bill" would be a great idea. This proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump simply had no idea what "a clean DACA bill" even was. The White House ham-handedly tried to omit this from the official transcript, and had to be called out by the media to correct their blatant omission.
During this meeting, Trump inadvertently confirmed a suspicion we've long held, that he really does not care what is in the bills he gets to sign, as long as he gets bills to sign. Here's Trump in his own words:
I think my positions are going to be what the people in this room come up with. I am very much reliant on the people in this room. I know most of the people on both sides, I have a lot of respect for the people on both sides, and what I approve is going to be very much reliant on what the people in this room come to me with. I have great confidence. If they come to me with things that I'm not in love with, I'm going to do it, because I respect them.
In other words, I have no convictions and I don't really care to learn about any of the details, just put something on my desk, please.
The press were allowed into this meeting to show Trump was some sort of serious negotiator who could handle being presidential in a meeting. This was to counter the impression that he spent most of his day doing what is euphemistically called on his schedule "executive time." Executive time means lying in bed eating cheeseburgers and watching Fox News, for those of you who missed this story. Which Trump apparently does every morning, before his first briefing begins at 10:00 or 11:00. So the White House thought it'd be a good idea to prove Trump is still capable of sitting still for an hour with congressional leaders. Later, Trump claimed that he had gotten "letters" from network anchors praising his meeting skills to high heaven. When pressed, the White House had to admit that these letters did not actually exist.
Trump also petulantly tweeted out that he was a "very stable genius," just in case anyone still had any doubts. Then yesterday, Trump actually did remove all doubt, just not in the way he intended. The day began with a Trump tweet ripping into the FISA bill that Paul Ryan was trying to pass. Trump had seen something negative about it on Fox News, so he let his fingers fly. Ryan then had to make a hasty half-hour phone call to Trump to explain exactly what the bill was -- and why the White House officially supported it. After an hour or so, Trump tweeted out that he fully supported the bill.
Later in the same day, it was revealed that Trump thinks that "I probably have a very good relationship with Kim Jong Un.... I have relationships with people. I think you people are surprised." It was unclear whether Trump has actually been talking with the leader of North Korea, or whether he confused him with the leader of South Korea.
Then, while Trump was ironically trying to record a Martin Luther King Jr. Day presidential message, the story broke about what Trump had said in another meeting with congressional leaders -- one without cameras rolling. "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" said the president, about African countries. He then clarified by saying we should let in more people from places like Norway, just in case the subtext was unclear. Later, he also said: "Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out."
In an unrelated item earlier in the week, Trump bragged about the sale of some "F-52" fighter planes, which do not in fact exist (outside of the world of video games, that is). Donald Trump, the stablest of geniuses around!
The fallout has been pretty immediate, both at home and abroad. London cancelled a visit Trump was planning for next month, and the government of Botswana sent a letter to the American ambassador asking "to clarify if Botswana is regarded as a 'shithole' country." Perhaps the most devastating takedown of Trump here at home came from Republican spin doctor Frank Luntz, who tweeted:
43% of immigrants from "shithole" African countries have a bachelor's degree or higher, compared to 33% of the overall American population. Nigerian-Americans, for instance, have a median household income well above the American average.
What else has been going on outside of Trump's shitstorm? Steve Bannon got booted from Breitbart, continuing his slide into irrelevance. Joe Arpaio announced he'll be running for the Senate, and precisely nobody will be surprised when Donald Trump endorses him.
Gerrymandering was struck down in North Carolina this week, but the decision will be appealed (and who knows how the Supreme Court is going to weigh in). Darrell Issa and Ed Royce announced they won't be running for re-election to their House seats, marking the ninth GOP committee chair to retire as well as the 32nd Republican House member overall. Will the last Republican to announce he's leaving Congress please turn out the lights?
It was a crowded field this week for the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award. The week kicked off at the Golden Globes, where Oprah Winfrey gave a rousing speech that caused many (including us) to immediately begin speculating whether she was considering a run for the presidency.
In all the uproar that followed, there was one incredibly amusing footnote. The animated show The Boondocks did an episode over a decade ago on what would have happened if Martin Luther King Jr. had not been killed but instead entered a coma. He wakes up and his reactions to the changes in America are pretty hilarious. He winds up moving to Canada in frustration, but the final shot in the episode is of the front of a newspaper dated "November 8, 2020." The headline? "Oprah Winfrey Elected President." Life imitates art?
Even more amusing was Democratic Representative Brendan Boyle, who responded to Trump's earlier assertion by introducing the "Standardized Testing and Accountability Before Large Elections Giving Electors Necessary Information for Unobstructed Selection Act," or the STABLE GENIUS Act. It would require all candidates to "undergo a mental-health examination" and certify to the Federal Election Commission "that he or she has undergone medical examination by the medical office under the jurisdiction of the Secretary of the Navy" and release the results to the public.
Heh. Boyle explained his reasoning on Twitter: "The President believes he is a 'stable genius.' I do not."
One piece of serious legislation also deserves an Honorable Mention. Senators Elizabeth Warren and Mark Warner introduced a bill to slap large fines on businesses like Equifax who suffer data breaches of the public's private information. From the story on the bill:
The cybersecurity bill would impose strict financial penalties on credit reporting agencies hit by data breaches, require significantly higher recovery compensation for affected customers, and establish an Office of Cybersecurity at the Federal Trade Commission tasked with annually inspecting credit reporting agencies' cybersecurity infrastructures.
Offending credit reporting agencies would also be subject to steeper penalties if they fail to meet the FTC's digital security standards or don't notify the agency of a data breach in a timely manner.
Sounds like a great idea to us.
But our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week goes to Senator Dianne Feinstein, for unilaterally releasing testimony from the head of Fusion GPS, the company that put together the dossier on Trump during the election. Republicans on her committee had been selectively leaking quotes from this transcript in order to make their own case, which led to a plea in the New York Times from the Fusion GPS leadership to release the full transcript, so the full remarks and context could be seen by all.
Feinstein then did precisely that, by publicly releasing the full transcript. Up until recently, the Senate Judiciary Committee was seen as the most nonpartisan investigation into Russians meddling in America's elections, but recently Republicans on the committee have been trying to score political points without conferring with the Democrats on the committee. So Feinstein's release was in retaliation against these GOP moves.
Feinstein has a history of pushing for full public disclosure of sensitive items, such as when she got a redacted report on American torture released, over strenuous objections from all sides. We are glad to see her continuing this tradition, and for making the Fusion GPS testimony public, we think she deserves the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award. When Republicans try to play games with selective leaks, sometimes the best answer is to shine a whole lot of daylight on the process.
[Congratulate Senator Dianne Feinstein on her Senate contact page, to let her know you appreciate her efforts.]
We must admit we're at a loss for the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award this week. Perhaps it was Trump dominating the airwaves all week, but we just didn't notice any Democrats being massively disappointing.
We did consider giving the award to Tom Steyer, the California billionaire behind the "Impeach Trump" ads, since he announced this week that he would not be running for either Dianne Feinstein's Senate seat or the governor's office, because this probably disappointed many Democrats in the Golden State.
However, at the same time, Steyer announced he would be pouring tens of millions of dollars into the effort to take back the House of Representatives in the midterm elections, and that is in no way a bad thing. So whether you think he should have run or not, he will still be a factor in this year's elections, in House districts all across the country. Which kind of disqualifies him for the MDDOTW award, really.
So, as always, if anyone has any nominations for the MDDOTW award, please post them in the comments and we'll consider them. But for now, the award will have to go back on the shelf for another week.
Volume 467 (1/12/18)
As we pointed out at the beginning, the most obvious talking point this week isn't even a partisan one. More and more people in the media (and elsewhere) are just flat-out admitting that Donald Trump is a racist. Over and over again, he's let the world know how he feels about black and brown people, and how they compare (in his racist mind) with white people. He makes no secret of it, in fact. It's right there for everyone to see.
So instead of creating a talking point around Trump's obvious racism, we are instead going to take it as a given. The statement "Trump is a racist" should be classified with such truisms as "the sky is blue" or "the sun rises in the east."
We're only one-fourth of the way through Donald Trump's term, and this is where we find ourselves. One wonders what the next year will bring, in fact, because Trump's race to the bottom seems to be accelerating over time.
Truisms aside, though, let's get to this week's talking points for Democrats.
Shit for brains
We do apologize in advance for the language used in this one, but hey, we didn't open this particular door.
"The most offensive part of Trump's 'shithole' thinking is that he equates a country to its people. Republicans are now pushing for only 'merit-based' immigration, but at the same time Trump wants to exclude anyone from any 'shithole country,' period. This shows that Trump is incapable of understanding that even the worst countries on Earth have good, intelligent, hard-working people living there. Why shouldn't America want their best to come here? Trump is stating plainly that he doesn't just think there are shithole countries, but that all the people there are shitty people. There's a perfect phrase to describe Trump's misguided thought processes, in fact -- shit for brains."
Dick Durbin responds
Senator Dick Durbin, who was present at the meeting, had perhaps the best reaction we've yet heard:
The most disheartening thing to me is my belief that that was the first time words that hateful have been spoken in the Oval Office of the White House. I think back of presidents throughout history, and I cannot imagine a moment where a president sunk to that depth. That's what breaks my heart.
Conveniently selective memory
As for Republicans, well, their reactions have been pretty laughable.
"Tom Cotton and David Perdue, who were both present at the 'shithole' meeting, issued a statement saying 'we do not recall the president saying these comments specifically.' Wow -- sounds like they're practicing for upcoming court testimony or something! That's a pretty selective memory for an event that happened less than 24 hours previously. Either (1) they're lying, (2) they have advanced dementia and literally do not remember the most inflammatory part of the meeting they just had, or (3) they are so used to hearing racist garbage from Donald Trump that they didn't make any particular note of what he said yesterday. None of these choices is a good one, obviously."
Imagine what they'd say if it was a Democrat
This is a recurring feature, here, of course.
"Just imagine for one tiny moment what Republicans would be saying if Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton appeared at a public sporting event and couldn't remember all the words to the national anthem. Just imagine what Fox News would have to say about that. Remember all the hyperventilating over flag pins? It'd be ten times worse than that. A Democrat who did so would immediately have their patriotism and fitness for office denounced by conservatives if they couldn't get through the first verse of the national anthem. Donald Trump just did so, and we've heard nary a peep about it. Of course, he's done several even more controversial things this week, but even so, the silence is deafening."
A new record!
Trump just loves breaking records, right?
"The Washington Post has updated its official count of how many bald-faced lies Donald Trump has told, just before he marks one year in office. Trump has now hit the milestone of 2,001 lies in only 355 days. That's pretty record-breaking, folks. It works out to 5.6 lies per day, in fact. If Trump ups his pace, he could even reach 10,000 lies during his term in office -- a truly extraordinary number. You could even call Trump a lying sack of... well, you know."
Executive time
Trump as toddler, once again.
"The most remarkable thing about Michael Wolff's book is that the people closest to the president -- not his political enemies, but those who work with Trump on his agenda -- all universally describe Trump as having the temperament of a small child. This has led to more and more of what is euphemistically named 'executive time' on his calendar, which is another way of saying 'recess,' really. The image of Trump is not of a 'stable genius' (as he puts it) but rather a cranky child allowed to sulk in his room, watch television, and fire off tweets. 'Executive time' will go down in history as one of the most laughable bits of spin from the Trump White House, that's my guess."
Go full Wile E.!
Why not?
"Trump should change the channel and watch some old Roadrunner cartoons. That way he could go full Wile E. Coyote and claim to be not just a stable genius, but a downright super genius! Right before a flying anvil knocks him off a cliff, of course."
-- Chris Weigant
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CW: yep to all.
Good column. Thanks, Chris.
I wish I thought that "crossing a cultural line" would have more consequences with the GOP Congress than it has so far.
The sad truth is that regardless of how reluctant we are to face up to the fact, a helluva lot of Americans are as much (or perhaps more) racist than is the Asshole-in-Chief, but they, at least in public, are more circumspect (or is it really more tactful, or more hypocritical, or maybe more politically correct?) than to be so up-front about it.
or is it really more tactful, or more hypocritical, or maybe more politically correct
... or polite
This is what I don't get. One of the things so many people who come to America comment on is how polite people are - even in places like NYC where we are told that the people are "in your face".
I arranged my mum's 80th Birthday in NYC in late 2016 and we had family from Scotland, New Zealand, and Canada fly in for the celebration. One constant refrain was how polite and helpful everybody was, and it was noted that this was a common experience across America when they had been visiting.
What is wrong with this guy?
neilm
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What is wrong with this guy?
He is an Orange Man-Baby with consciousness of guilt who just recently found out that Mueller's team is seeking a May 14, 2018, trial date for Manafort and Gates for... say it with me ladies and gentlemen... conspiracy against the United States as well as money laundering.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-12/mueller-seeks-may-14-conspiracy-trial-for-manafort-and-gates
Robert Mueller, the U.S. special counsel, says he wants the conspiracy and money-laundering trial of former Trump campaign Chairman Paul Manafort and his one-time associate Richard Gates to start on May 14.
Mueller’s request came Friday in a court filing disclosing that prosecutors have 590,000 items of evidence, including 2,200 documents labeled as “hot” to tell defense lawyers they are important.
The evidence includes statements the defendants made to law enforcement, as well as imaged copies of 87 electronic devices obtained during the investigation, such as laptops, phones and thumb drives. It also includes 19 search and seizure warrants and related applications.
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So you can see his dilemma. ;)
Great column, CW. How low can the GOP go to justify the obvious Racist-In-Chief? Not really a new discovery about Adolph Twittler but back on the front page again.
Let's see now, how many convicted criminals are running for office on the GOP ticket that Hair Furor will no doubt endorse: 4... so far, of course.
Oh, oh... I do have a nomination for MDDOTW.
The Governor of Missouri, family man I hear, who admitted to cheating on his wife and took a nude picture of the woman cheater in order to blackmail her into silence regarding their affair.
Oh, hold a minute... I am being informed that this too was a Republican. My bad. Nevermind. ;)
IN OTHER NEWS TODAY
An indictment by the Department of Justice today that is yet more bad news for Benedict Donald.
Remember that whistleblower that came forward and volunteered information regarding Flynn's texting on inauguration day? Just as a reminder:
Flynn texted partners about nuclear plan during inauguration, whistleblower says
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/michael-flynn-texted-nuclear-plans-whistleblower-282070
..... Continued --->
Which prompted this correspondence:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000160-29df-d2ac-a1f2-b9ff83920001
..... Continued --->
Which has now resulted in this indictment:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-president-maryland-based-transportation-company-indicted-11-counts-related-foreign
Mark Lambert, 54, of Mount Airy, Maryland, was charged in an 11-count indictment with one count of conspiracy to violate the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) and to commit wire fraud, seven counts of violating the FCPA, two counts of wire fraud and one count of international promotion money laundering. The charges stem from an alleged scheme to bribe Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official at JSC Techsnabexport (TENEX), a subsidiary of Russia’s State Atomic Energy Corporation and the sole supplier and exporter of Russian Federation uranium and uranium enrichment services to nuclear power companies worldwide, in order to secure contracts with TENEX.
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TENEX is a subsidiary of ROSATOM, and in order for this deal that Flynn and Copson were texting about on inauguration day to "make a bunch of people very wealthy," there would have to have been an arrangement for someone to lift sanctions... quid pro quo.
Y'all see where this is going yet? :)
Once again....
President Trump sets the tune and ya'all hysterical NeverTrumprs dance to it.. :D
Dance, lil monkees, dance!! :D
Thanks for that series of posts kick [7-9]. That was both news to me, and very interesting. Can you imagine the carnage if Mueller was backed by a Democratic House and/or Senate?
If the Democrats get chairmanship of some house committees 45 is going to think Benghazi!!! was a picnic.
However, 45's problem is that instead of 19 fruitless fishing trips with a whale at the end (the email 'controversy') we could have several productive investigations with some jail time being meted out.
I mean, would anybody be surprised at the news that 45 and/or Kushner had been convicted of money laundering?
However, 45's problem is that instead of 19 fruitless fishing trips with a whale at the end (the email 'controversy') we could have several productive investigations with some jail time being meted out.
Of course, such wishful thinking ignores ALL facts and reality...
But you are correct about one thing..
Everything ya'all said about Benghazi is factually accurate about this Russian Collusion BS...
Y'all see where this is going yet? :)
Yea.. It's going the same way it's been going for the last 2 years..
Absolutely NO WHERE...
President Donald Trump's medical exam 'went exceptionally well,' doctor says
President Trump received his first-ever medical exam as president on Friday.
The doctor in charge of the exam said it "went exceptionally well."
The White House physician who supervised the exam will brief reporters about its findings on Tuesday.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/president-donald-trump-finishes-undergoing-medical-exam.html
Another hysterical NeverTrumper talking point totally demolished with FACTS....
Sucks to be ya'all.. :D
Benghazi is factually accurate about this Russian Collusion BS.
As we have said all along, and as I even pointed out in my comment, the problem isn't Russian Collusion, even though they are looking more guilty as time goes on, the problem is dirty money.
I know you need to put words in our mouths to allow you to create a reality you desperately want to be true. But face the preponderance of evidence - 45 is a petty little racist and con man. Lies are all he has.
Since I know ya'all love polls so much.. :D
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan12
Here, allow me to save ya'all the trouble of responding..
"I DON't LIKE THAT POLL!!!! WAAAAAAA IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT I WANT TO HEAR!!!! WAAAAAA IT'S *ONLY* A LEGIT POLL IF IT SAYS WHAT I WANT TO HEAR!!! WAAAAAA"
-Weigantians
There... Ya'all are covered...
"Yer welcome"
-Maui, MOANA
:D
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/andrew-sullivan-time-to-resist-excesses-of-metoo.html
Typical Left Wingers....
Once upon a time, Weigantians would have joined together in condemning such excesses...
Now ya'all cherish and espouse and epitomize these excesses...
"Oh how the mighty have fallen."
-Guinan, STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION
Just read the WSJ transcript of Trump’s interview. https://www.wsj.com/articles/transcript-of-donald-trump-interview-with-the-wall-street-journal-1515715481
Holy vicious rivers, Batman! Talk about needing to be high in order to comprehend what Trump is babbling about! Here were two of my favorites:
Mr. Trump: “How could there be obstruction on firing Comey? When the man who’s in charge of it wrote a letter that was far stronger than anything I would have written. He was in charge -- Deputy Rosenstein. He wrote a letter that’s far stronger than even what I say.”
Mr. Trump: “The other thing is, everybody wanted Comey fired. And, another thing, and this is just a few, Comey has proven to be a leaker and a liar and, if anything, I should get credit for firing him because it turned out I was right because many things have been found out about Comey that – I mean, I should be given credit for having great insight because many things have been found out about Comey that would never have been found out if I didn’t fire him.”
Trump believes that the Deputy Director is in charge of the FBI! Trump is trying to say that Comey was fired by Rosenstein, not him!
The letter, which was written after Rosenstein was ordered to come up with possible reasons for Comey to be fired, wasn’t the reason Trump fired Comey...based on Trump’s own statements regarding the firing.
I hope Mueller hurries up with the investigation before Trump can give too many more interviews like this one or Trump will have more than enough proof that he isn’t mentally capable of understanding the charges he will face.
90% Of Workers Likely To See More Money In Paycheck Next Month
(CNN Money) — The U.S. Treasury and the IRS on Thursday put out new guidance and withholding tables for employers that incorporate changes from the new tax law.
Under those new tables, the Treasury estimates that 90% of people who get a paycheck are likely to see more in take-home pay, as soon as February. Employers will have until Feb. 15 to incorporate the changes in their payroll systems.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/12/paycheck-changes-new-tax-law-more-money/
Face the facts, hysterical NeverTrumpers..
Ya'all were wrong..... AGAIN....
I hope Mueller hurries up with the investigation before Trump can give too many more interviews like this one or Trump will have more than enough proof that he isn’t mentally capable of understanding the charges he will face.
Psychological training that allows you to make a mental health diagnosis??
None???
OK, then we can write off your "diagnosis" as nothing but hysterical Party slavery and bigotry..
Lucky for you that you have no training..
Because, if you had, you would be a total and complete MORON for diagnosing someone based on media reports...
Michale
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Yea.. It's going the same way it's been going for the last 2 years..
It hasn't been 2 years quite yet, and I don't see that you've posted any facts whatsoever except your typical incorrect spew signifying your propensity to make up bullshit.
Absolutely NO WHERE...
What part of "unsealed indictment" connected to Flynn and ROSATOM has confused you? It's absolutely going to trial in a court in Maryland, which is somewhere last time I checked, unless of course somebody cops to a plea agreement.
Meanwhile, Mueller has gotten indictments of multiple persons of the Trump campaign, some of the indictments which have been unsealed/revealed, including Flynn and Papadopoulos who have plead guilty to lesser charges in exchange for their cooperation, while plans have been made to begin trial against Trump's campaign chairman, Manafort, for conspiracy against the United States of America and money laundering, just to name a few, with more as yet unsealed indictments ready and waiting.
So it's off to trial they'll go (contingent on potential pleas, of course), coming SOMEWHERE to a courtroom in America and a television screen near you.
We are witnesses to living history so y'all have your popcorn ready. :)
What part of "unsealed indictment" connected to Flynn and ROSATOM has confused you?
What part of NOTHING to do with Russia collusion OR President Trump has confused you??
We are witnesses to living history so y'all have your popcorn ready. :)
Yea.. The GOP said the same thing about Benghazi..
That's all ya'all have here.. Just the Dumbocrat version of Benghazi...
And you know who will be laughing loudest and longest when Mueller reports there is no facts to support President Trump colluding with the Russians.. :D
As we have said all along, and as I even pointed out in my comment, the problem isn't Russian Collusion, even though they are looking more guilty as time goes on, the problem is dirty money.
Yea, but then you changed your tune when you read that La Carre novel about Russian collusion..
more guilty as time goes on, the problem is dirty money.
I know you need to put words in our mouths to allow you to create a reality you desperately want to be true.
No, the problem is you talk out both sides of your ass because yer afraid you are going to be wrong..
AGAIN... :D
If NeverTrumpers attempt to remove President Trump, a freely, fairly and legally elected POTUS from office because of past financial dealings, Trump supporters will not stand for it..
And 99% of Trump supporters are armed and trained...
neilm
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You're quite welcome. Unsealed indictments can be so informative. Oh, can I imagine the carnage? You bet. ;)
I mean, would anybody be surprised at the news that 45 and/or Kushner had been convicted of money laundering?
And Manafort and Gates for starters... certainly not me. There's a reason I call him "Benedict Donald."
Did you see the mass of evidence Mueller has in the Manafort and Gates case?
* 590,000 items of evidence
* 2,200 items of evidence labeled as "hot"
* Statements the defendants made to law enforcement
* Imaged copies of 87 electronic devices such as laptops, phones and thumb drives.
* 19 search and seizure warrants and related applications.
And that's why I so often say... tip of the iceberg. :)
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Lordy, I hope there are tapes. ~ James Comey
Rachel Maddow Show Sparked FBI Investigation Into Death Threats Against McConnell, Pruitt
Viewer drinking while watching Maddow says 'sorry' for threatening to murder Republicans
Drinking while watching MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show led to death threats against Republicans Mitch McConnell and Scott Pruitt that sparked an FBI investigation.
An individual admitted to sending threatening tweets against the Senate majority leader and Environmental Protection Agency administrator, according to the EPA's inspector general investigation document, first reported by E&E News.
The unidentified person from Paragould, Ark., said they meant the threats as a "flippant comment" and sent the tweets when they were "drinking while watching the Rachel Maddow show."
The threats were serious enough for the Office of Investigations to open a joint inquiry with the FBI, the Joint Terrorism Task Force, and the Tulsa Police Department in Oklahoma.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/rachel-maddow-show-sparked-fbi-investigation-death-threats-mcconnell-pruitt/
Dumbocrats... :^/
Paula,
Meanwhile: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/embassies-respond-shithole-comments Headline is: ‘Shithole’ Comments Spark Global Furor
Ambassador to Panama resigns, saying he can no longer work for this Administration.
Of course, the FACT is that the Ambassador to Panama resigned back in Dec of 2017 and it became effective 24 hours BEFORE President Trump's alleged shithole remark......
But why let FACTS ruin a perfectly good HHPTDS induced rant...
You see, this is EXACTLY what is wrong with you people..
FACTS don't matter..
Only hysterical Anti-Trump bullshit matters...
Weigantian back pedal 2 step in 3.... 2..... 1.....
The UN Human Development Index, the most widely accepted metric for how not like a well — you know what — a given country is, ranks Norway (the country Trump mentioned he wanted more immigrants from), as No. 1 in the world. El Salvador ranked 117th. Haiti was 163rd, and every single one of the 25 countries ranked below it (with the exception of the garden spots of Afghanistan and Yemen) was in Africa. All other things being relatively equal, why shouldn’t we want immigrants from countries with healthy functioning societies that are doing well, people who have grown up enmeshed in strong institutions—rather than some of the world’s most impoverished and dysfunctional places?
-NRO
You guys are really silly sometimes... Just the effects of HHPTDS, I guess...
Now, the suit argues, "the Office of the Special Counsel charged Mr. Manafort with the very conduct he voluntarily disclosed to DOJ almost three years prior to the appointment of Mr. Mueller as Special Counsel." The suit contends that Mueller essentially took an old, unrelated, closed case off the shelf and indicted Manafort for it as part of the Trump-Russia investigation.
It seems clear that in the Manafort indictment, Mueller has moved away from his original assignment. Manafort's core contention is that Rosenstein's kitchen-sink appointment order allowed Mueller to do that without — as required by the special counsel regulations — seeking permission to do so. But what about the possibility that Mueller has secretly gone back to Rosenstein to get the OK to move beyond the original order? In the suit, Manafort's lawyers note that on Sept. 12, 2017, they asked Rosenstein to confirm or deny whether he had given Mueller additional jurisdiction. "Mr. Rosenstein has not responded; nor has anyone else from his office," the lawsuit says.
What the lawsuit suggests is that Rosenstein avoided having to make such decisions by simply giving Mueller all the authority in the world to begin with. And that, Manafort argues, is not in line with the regulations that created the special counsel's office to begin with.
There is plenty of legal arcana in the suit, and many legal objections to be made to it. And Mueller and Rosenstein could moot the whole thing by explicitly expanding Mueller's authority to include specific activities which have no connection to the Trump-Russia affair. But as a political case, Manafort makes a strong point: Mueller is prosecuting people (Manafort and associate Rick Gates) for alleged crimes that have nothing to do with Donald Trump and Russia in the 2016 election. And that political argument may be heard more and more as the Mueller investigation goes on.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-paul-manafort-has-a-point/article/2645725
When it comes to the Manafort indictment vis a vis Russian Collusion, it's a huge nothingburger...
Just like the whole Russian collusion accusations..
Someone please explain to me, on what planet is calling a country a "shithole" means racism???
Ya'all's problem is that ANYTHING is racist... Ya'all got absolutely NO ARGUMENT so it's all "THIS is racist!!!!" and "THAT is racist!!!"
Ya'all need a new schtick...
Michale
24, 26
If NeverTrumpers attempt to remove President Trump, a freely, fairly and legally elected POTUS from office because of past financial dealings, Trump supporters will not stand for it..
And 99% of Trump supporters are armed and trained...
This is not the first time on chrisweigant.com that you've posted that "Trump supporters" are "armed and trained" and suggested they'll commit violence against fellow Americans that would most likely have to be lawmakers and/or prosecutors that have sworn an oath to their country and not to any political party or man.
Please let us know how your multiple threats are any different than those of the "Dumbocrats" from "Podunk," Arkansas in your comment at [26] and why the FBI shouldn't therefore be investigating you for the multiple "flippant comments" that you've made on this blog from "Shithole," Florida.
It's quite simple, Victoria.. Although I can understand why someone of your limited intelligence could comprehend..
Nullifying a free, fair and legal election based on some trumped up bullshit irrelevant long past financial deal is tantamount to a coup...
And Trump supporters will protect this country and it's legally, fairly and freely elected President... By force of arms in necessary...
Like I said..
It's really simple...
Do you need me to explain the big words to you, baby??
If you feel you need to report me to the FBI, feel free...
All I ask is that you record them when they laugh their asses off at you... :D And then play it back for me here.. :D
to be lawmakers and/or prosecutors that have sworn an oath to their country and not to any political party or man.
And that oath would entail that they honor a free, fair and legal election and not attempt to nullify it based on a partisan political agenda that runs contrary to the best interests of the country and *SOLELY* because they don't like who won.....
You LOST, Victoria... Get over it..
[14] Michale
"President Donald Trump's medical exam 'went exceptionally well,' doctor says
President Trump received his first-ever medical exam as president on Friday.
The doctor in charge of the exam said it "went exceptionally well."
The White House physician who supervised the exam will brief reporters about its findings on Tuesday.
Another hysterical NeverTrumper talking point totally demolished with FACTS....
Sucks to be ya'all.. :D"
OH MY GOD MICHALE! THIS IS SO LAUGHABLE! You do know that this was put out by White House staff and is a FORGERY!
It was signed by Ronnie Jackson. The only problem is that the REAL doctor spells and signs his name RONNY.
Sure SUCKS to be you GULLIBLE YOU MICHALE!
[29] Michale
"All other things being relatively equal, why shouldn’t we want immigrants from countries with healthy functioning societies that are doing well, people who have grown up enmeshed in strong institutions—rather than some of the world’s most impoverished and dysfunctional places?"
And YOU do understand that people DON'T leave countries where life for them is EXCELLENT? Immigrants leave countries where there is war and poverty for a BETTER life. Just like my own grandparents did, who left the war ravaged poverty of Italy. It's not like they were leaving Switzerland!
OH MY GOD MICHALE! THIS IS SO LAUGHABLE! You do know that this was put out by White House staff and is a FORGERY!
Yer kidding, right???
Do you see how you sound EXACTLY like a hysterical birther who said Odumbo's birth certificate was a forgery???
And YOU do understand that people DON'T leave countries where life for them is EXCELLENT? Immigrants leave countries where there is war and poverty for a BETTER life. Just like my own grandparents did, who left the war ravaged poverty of Italy. It's not like they were leaving Switzerland!
So, you agree that Haiti is a shithole.....
OK.. Good...
[30] Michale
The deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, appointed former F.B.I. Director Robert S. Mueller III as the special counsel to oversee the investigation into Russian tampering in the 2016 presidential election.
From his official government document ordering it:
The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation... including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump
(ii) any matters that arose or may directly arise from the investigation
(iii) any other matters withing the scope 28 C.F.R. 600.4
Surely YOU, with a background in law enforcement KNOWS that this means:
1.) If you are investigating a drug sale and also happen to see a dead body laying in plain sight at the same location, you don't ignore the separate crime of murder just because your original authorization was to only investigate the drug deal, when you discover the additional crime of murder during your investigation of the original drug deal.... CORRECT?
2.) It has never been ONLY about COLLUSION. When it plainly says ANY OTHER MATTERS, that includes things that are MUCH MORE of a problem for the President, LIKE: CONSPIRACY, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, PERJURY, and MONEY LAUNDERING. Juts like it was PERJURY the tripped Bill Clinton up, and not the original charge they investigated him for. Since he lied about not having an affair with Monica Lewinsky.
[38] Michale
"Do you see how you sound EXACTLY like a hysterical birther who said Odumbo's birth certificate was a forgery???"
NO. SINCE I HAVE PROOF AND YOU NEVER DID
Trump's exam took place under the supervision of Dr. Ronny Jackson, the White House physician.
Jackson, who presided over President Barack Obama's last physical in office in 2016, issued a brief statement on the physical Friday evening.
"The President's physical exam today at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center went exceptionally well. The President is in excellent health and I look forward to briefing some of the details on Tuesday," Jackson said.
On Tuesday, Jackson plans to take questions from reporters at the White House about the exam.
You really have a screw loose, JM... :D
NO. SINCE I HAVE PROOF AND YOU NEVER DID
For example....????
[31] Michale
"Someone please explain to me, on what planet is calling a country a "shithole" means racism???"
Here it is EXPLAINED:
Donald Trump ONLY said that brown and black nations were shitholes.
Donald Trump never said any WHITE nations were shitholes.
GOT IT???
[41] Michale
"You really have a screw loose, JM... :D"
Says the man who is WRONG and only repeats what the document is SUPPOSED to have said without proof refuting what I said about the SIGNATURE
Donald Trump ONLY said that brown and black nations were shitholes.
That's an inference...
From a hysterical NeverTrumper..
As such, it's meaningless...
Says the man who is WRONG and only repeats what the document is SUPPOSED to have said without proof refuting what I said about the SIGNATURE
Show me the document...
Juts like it was PERJURY the tripped Bill Clinton up, and not the original charge they investigated him for. Since he lied about not having an affair with Monica Lewinsky.
If you want to bring in Bill Clinton, fine..
But it would be as if Ken Starr had stumbled across perjured testimony from a decade ago..
THAT is the proper analogy to the current situation..
Yoooo Hoooo??? JM???
Document???
There wasn't any document in the link I gave you... So, where did you get this fantasy document???
Michale's reading comprehension difficulty reveals its obstreperous head once again, as per typical and right on cue. Isn't it precious how he believes there are "big words" in his monosyllabic gasconading and feculent posts?
No one requested nor required reiteration of his repetitive threats of violence or explanation regarding the codswallop therein. He was asked how his "flippant comments" and incitement of violence against United States lawmakers were any different than those "Dumbocrats" from Arkansas in his comment at [26], and he couldn't answer... because the threats from his "shithole" and the stench that he spews is the same.
, and he couldn't answer... because the threats from his "shithole" and the stench that he spews is the same.
No.. I DIDN'T answer because I didn't think you were serious..
NO ONE with more than 2 brain cells to rub together would equate specific threats against specific people with a stated desire to defend this country against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC..
I just didn't think ANYONE would be so utterly stoopid and moronic to equate the two..
Congrats, Victoria.. My estimation of your intelligence has been greatly lowered...
A feat I had not thought possible..
45 needs to sit down with a serious reporter, say Katty Kay from the BBC and have a serious Q&A about immigration.
He needs to prove that he can face up to in depth, serious questions bout a subject that he has the power to enact major change on in our society and prove that he isn't the driveling moron he is made out to be.
In one hour he could put all the "can't read", "repeats himself", "has no understanding of policy, only slogans", etc. behind him.
If he can last one our with a serious interviewer on a subject of current national importance without demanding all the questions in advance, I'll believe he isn't the mental incompetent that we are told his staff believe he is.
Chances of 45 being able to show how smart and stable he is to the American people: 0%
John M [43]
Could the fact that Trump only referred to "brown and black" nations as shitholes, and not to any white nations, be a reflection of the fact that there are no white nations that in the general understanding of the term ARE shitholes?
Would you have been happier, or would Trump be less of a racist if he had designated Sweden or France or Germany as shitholes, just to show impartiality???
Neil,
I think you're right about the president not being able to intelligently discuss any number of issues with a serious reporter.
However, I must take issue with your assertion that Katty Kay is one of those serious reporters. She never misses an opportunity to laugh at or otherwise denigrate Joe Biden. Consequently, she is far less than a serious reporter in my book. Maybe his stint as vice president has changed her attitude toward him but, I seriously doubt it.
Wouldn't it be great to see a guy like William Bradley go one-on-one with Trump, for even just 15 minutes!?
But, not before he interviews Joe Biden. Now, THAT is my dream interview. Which would take a few hours, at the very least. :)
All Dem/Lib Weigantians
Would you guys educate me on the whole 'money' thing you are building your hopes for dumping Trump upon?
What exactly IS "dirty" money in politics? If the Ruskies donate money to an American politician, is that "dirty money"? Don't Ruskies have 'constitutional rights'?
And where do you see "money laundering" going on? That term usually refers to recycling drug money into the normal banking system so law enforcement can't see where it originated, right?
Where do you see drug money, or any other illegal proceeds being "laundered?
CRS[53]
How do you define "shithole country", in the general understanding of the term?
there are no white nations that in the general understanding of the term ARE shitholes?
Moldova. I'm not calling any country a shithole - hell the worst poverty in the "rich" world is in the U.S.A. according to the latest U.N. study.
However Moldova is pretty bleak. And white. And Christian.
I'll take Botswana over Moldova any day of the week.
Neil,
I hope CRS thinks about that for a moment ...
Liz M [56]
How about 1), A place that really stinks, from which everybody's trying to flee?
Where do you see drug money, or any other illegal proceeds being "laundered?
Just one example, Trump SoHo Hotel Condominium in Manhattan, where Trump is 18 percent owner, made more than three-quarters of its sales to shell companies that paid in cash.
These types of transactions are flagged by the treasury department as telltale signs of potential money laundering schemes.
The laws regarding money laundering are far more relaxed for real estate than they are for other industries, however there is a lot of dirty money floating around Trump deals so it is not a stretch to think that he might not be squeaky clean - particularly as he went bankrupt multiple times and thus was a pariah on Wall St and the City, so did not have access to traditional money sources. Real estate is a volatile industry with volatile cash flow requirements (as the Kushners are currently experiencing with 666 5th Ave).
Most money professionals I know think Trump properties are dodgy and that it would be almost impossible for Trump himself not to know that a lot of his money comes from dubious sources.
neilm [57]
Had to Google Moldova to find out where/what it was. Appears to be geographically equivalent to what we'd call a U.S.'county', but the Wikipedia page makes it look like a pretty pleasant place to visit. Check it out!
How about 1), A place that really stinks, from which everybody's trying to flee?
Does West Virginia fit your description? It has lost over 2% of its population since 2010, and West Virginia ranked 49th in the 2014 State New Economy Index, and has ranked in the bottom three states since 1999. West Virginia ranked last or next-to-last in critical indicators such as Workforce Education, Entrepreneurial Activity, High-Tech Jobs, and Scientists and Engineers.
CRS,
It seems that the point many are making about the racist comments made by President Trump is not well understood.
It is undeniable and unacceptable that there are many places in our world that present great hardship to the people who live there. You may call these places what you want.
What Trump said went well beyond that and demonstrated that he, as president of the United States, clearly does not understand what the idea and promise of America is.
Name-calling is par for the course for Donald Trump. Referring to nations as "shithole countries" is not what we expect a POTUS to do. But, what Trump actually did here was to announce to the world that he sees far less value in accepting immigrants from Africa and Haiti and El Salvador than from places like Norway.
That kind of thinking is both racist and ignorant.
CRS - I know a lot about Moldova from books as well as online sources like Wikipedia. As far as visiting, I'd take the Plains of Serengeti over Stefan cel Mare Park any week day plus Saturday and Sunday.
Moldova estimates that about 25% of its population has emigrated and is working abroad. Only 80,000 of those are legal immigrants, most of the other 1 million are illegal immigrants.
Moldova would be a poster child for 45 if they weren't white and christian.
Michale
51
No.. I DIDN'T answer because I didn't think you were serious..
You are absolutely and completely correct that you "didn't think."
NO ONE with more than 2 brain cells to rub together would equate specific threats against specific people with a stated desire to defend this country against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC..
Pathetic yet not unexpected... the requisite moving of the goalposts by you, and not a single person here is surprised. So let's review the threat of violence that you're repeating frequently on this blog versus your revisionist history above. You frequently spew:
_______________
If NeverTrumpers attempt to remove President Trump, a freely, fairly and legally elected POTUS from office because of past financial dealings, Trump supporters will not stand for it..
And 99% of Trump supporters are armed and trained...
_______________
And who are those that you consider "NeverTrumpers"? Do you actually think that people aren't able to read this blog and your repetitive spew using continuity of thought in order to discern your meaning?
_______________
Mueller is a NeverTrumper who was put in place by a NeverTrumper...
I notice that you ignore ALL of the *FACTS* that shows Mueller's team's anti-Trump bias...
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/12/13/democrats-begin-eyeing-2018-senate-takeover/#comment-112282
_______________
Anyone that reads the blog regularly and reads even small portions of your repetitive spew has no trouble discerning your meaning. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to read a conversation and retain the information from day to day.
I just didn't think ANYONE would be so utterly stoopid and moronic to equate the two..
We all know "you didn't think." It's not difficult to those with continuity of thought and the ability to retain information to know exactly who you meant. You needn't spell it out in one comment box in order to be understood.
Congrats, Victoria.. My estimation of your intelligence has been greatly lowered...
My estimation of your intelligence hasn't changed. You have reading comprehension issues and near zero continuity of thought from one day to the next. You spew the same bullshit over and over, day in and day out, as if every day is a blank slate wherein you begin anew.
Your threats of violence against "NeverTrumpers" using firearms are repetitive, easily understood, and not something for which you should be making monotonous flippant comments. Clue in.
neilm
Hotel and Condo "sales" are room rental fees, right? So I don't follow the "dodgy" part. I understand cash sales, makes it easy to understate income and therefore reduce tax liability, but that's tax evasion, not money laundering, right?
Maybe the hotel rents a room to a murderer, a drug dealer, or whatever kind of crook, but if the rent goes into the bank and is declared and taxed, is it still "dirty money"???
Your explanation/clarification isn't even close to the explanation of financial derivatives that I contributed to YOUR education!
[48] Michale
Here you go:
From: Gearan, Anne
Date: January 12, 2018 at 6:43:20 PM EST
To: WHCA pool distro Kate Price
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [WHCA TV] [WH Pool] Travel pool report 2/readout on physical
White House Press Secretary Sara Sanders passes along this report after the physical:
"The President's physical exam today at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center went exceptionally well. The President is in excellent health and I look forward to briefing some of the details on Tuesday." Dr. Ronnie Jackson
Says the official White House blurb sent out to the Press Pool, which obviously was NOT either sent or written by Dr. Jackson himself, as it spelled his first name wrong, as Ronnie instead of Ronny.
Your explanation/clarification isn't even close to the explanation of financial derivatives that I contributed to YOUR education!
Firstly, as I worked in the business of evaluating the risk of financial derivatives and presented at conferences and private meetings around the world on the subject, you Investopedia level "explanation/clarification" was not exactly teaching me anything - I was just interested in your level of understanding of the instruments (wikipedia level: no signs of actual involvement with them).
Secondly, do you know what a condominium property is? Since your financial understanding level is "Wikipedia", here is the telly tubby explanation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condominium
(Hint: You will understand my comment when you realize that Trump properties sold the units.)
[53] C. R. Stucki
"Could the fact that Trump only referred to "brown and black" nations as shitholes, and not to any white nations, be a reflection of the fact that there are no white nations that in the general understanding of the term ARE shitholes?"
Really??? NONE??? What about Belarus? Moldova? Russia? Ukraine? Albania? Serbia? Bosnia?
Or alternatively: Iran? Syria? Lebanon? Afghanistan? Pakistan? All of whose people's are technically Caucasian also?
"Would you have been happier, or would Trump be less of a racist if he had designated Sweden or France or Germany as shitholes, just to show impartiality???"
In a word, YES
C.R.Stucki
A couple of things regarding Trump’s property sales to Russian holding companies that raised red flags with the Feds...
1. They paid above asking prices on properties that had been on the market for a long time. Who does that?
2. The properties have remained vacant after purchase.
Trump Jr. bragged a couple of years ago that Russian backers were responsible for financing more than half of their projects.
Can you imagine being a foreign interpreter and having to try to properly interpret the incoherent babbling of Trump to your bosses?
I wonder how many have just quit their jobs rather than risk Trump’s comments making it seem as if they don’t know what they are doing?
John M [69]
You obviously don't honor my definition of "shitholes' offered to Liz earlier.
None of those on your list qualify as places that "smell really bad, where everybody's trying to leave".
So give us your definition?!
[55] C. R. Stucki
"Would you guys educate me on the whole 'money' thing you are building your hopes for dumping Trump upon?
Where do you see drug money, or any other illegal proceeds being "laundered?"
We have had this discussion before involving Deutsche Bank, remember? You really should read The Glenn Simpson interview that was released by Senator Feinstein.
Here are a few excerpts:
"In the early -- the very first weekend that I
started boning up on Donald Trump, you know, I
found various references to him having connections
to Italian organized crime and later to a Russian
organized crime figure named Felix Sater,
S-A-T-E-R. It wasn't hard to find, it wasn't any
great achievement, it was in the New York Times...
As it happens, Felix Sater was, you know,
connected to the same Russian crime family that was
at issue in the Prevezon case, which is the
dominant Russian crime family in Russia and has a
robust U.S. presence and is involved in a lot of
crime and criminal activity in the United States
and for many years was the -- the leader of this
family was on the FBI most wanted list...
You know, Russian organized crime is very
different from Italian organized crime. It's much
more sort of a hybrid kind of thing where they're
involved in politics and banking and there's even a
lot of connections between the mafia and the KGB or
the FSB and cyber crime...
In any event, all of that entered into my thinking when I saw that Donald Trump was in business with Felix
Sater in the Trump Soho project and a number of
other controversial condo projects.
...but we as a company began to
look at where his (speaking about Trump's)
money came from and, you know,
that raised a lot of questions. We saw indications
that some of the money came from Kazakhstan, among
other places, and that some of it you just couldn't
account for."
Speaking about Trump was my own note that I added for clarity. - JM
[43] John M: "Got it?"
Of course he won't "get it" - he has talking points to repeat.
[65] Is the Spigot raising the specter of violence in response to the removal of President Shithole?
The refuge of the person losing the argument.
There will be a removal, one way or another and there may well be violence. But those threatening it -- like the spigot traitor -- are mostly big-talking birdbrains who won't do squat. But a percentage of them are dangerous and some will hurt and kill innocent people, proving they are exactly what I think they are: terrorists. Also traitors.
It isn't going to be pretty. But Blotus-thugs have to be dealt with. If they start shooting the good news is most of them will end up dying themselves and they'll die as murderers. Those they kill will be martyrs. The thugs who survive will be jailed for being criminals.
[72] C. R. Stucki
"None of those on your list qualify as places that "smell really bad, where everybody's trying to leave".
REALLY??? NONE AGAIN? Syria doesn't qualify? Afghanistan doesn't qualify? Moldova? Bosnia?
Tell that to Germany and Sweden who are flooded with people from those very same nations in Eastern Europe, the Balkans, North Africa and the Middle East.
A nation wracked by poverty and war and natural disasters.. would that not qualify as a place that really stinks that everybody is trying to flee from?
John M
Thanks for the Simpson interview, but all that together didn't really answer my question, and I fear that if that's all you've got (that Trump gets real-estate financing from unsavory characters), your Trump destruction edifice is sitting on a very shaky foundation.
I can see where Russian or Italian law enforcement may be interested, but why would U.S. law enforcement be?
NEWS TO YOU Michale:
The U.S. Constitution provides TWO separate CONSTITUTIONAL ways for a freely elected President to be removed from office.
1.) Impeachment by the House and removal by 2/3 vote of the U.S. Senate
2.) 25th amendment by a majority of the President's own cabinet
And there is not a damn thing you and Trump's supporters can do about it thru non violent means since it is ALL perfectly LEGAL ( Not saying that either of those two ARE going to happen )
If you were to try to prevent it with guns, then you YOURSELVES would be guilty of both sedition and treason against the duly lawful Constitutional authorities of the United States.
John M [75]
OK, you've got me there. I must have kinda skimmed over Syria on your list. Definitely a "shithole".
Michale,
Psychological training that allows you to make a mental health diagnosis??
None???
OK, then we can write off your "diagnosis" as nothing but hysterical Party slavery and bigotry..
Lucky for you that you have no training..
Because, if you had, you would be a total and complete MORON for diagnosing someone based on media reports...
Says the person claiming any criticism of Trump stems from “hysterical Party slavery”.
When I was an EMT, we were trained to do basic psychological assessments, which consists of watching and listening to how a person acts. I am not diagnosing Trump, I am simply assessing his apparent mental state. Trust me, anyone who answered simple questions like Trump does would get a ride to a psych ward for their own safety!
Here’s an idea...you try explaining what Trump is saying in his interviews. You explain why Trump now claims he isn’t the person speaking in the Billy Bush interview recording even though he previously admitted to it and apologized for saying those things?
Or tell me what Trump is saying here?
WSJ: Some people would see your tweets, which are sometimes combative towards Kim Jong Un...
Mr. Trump: Sure, you see that a lot with me and then all of a sudden somebody’s my best friend. I could give you 20 examples. You give me 30. I’m a very flexible person.
What the hell is he saying? Who answers a question that way?
I like Mark Sumner’s response on the Daily Kos:
“I could give you 20 examples. You give me 30. I’m a very flexible person.” I’m telling you that Allen Ginsberg and William S. Burroughs could not have crafted that with a bottle of tequila and a major stroke. What does it mean, man? What does it mean?
When Reagan started losing his mind to dementia, at least there were people who were able to take over and guide him to do what he needed to do. Trump doesn’t have that safety net in place, which is a real problem if he is in fact suffering from dementia. Even if Trump only suffers from the effects of dementia 10% of the time, that should concern you!
[76] C. R. Stucki
"hanks for the Simpson interview, but all that together didn't really answer my question, and I fear that if that's all you've got (that Trump gets real-estate financing from unsavory characters), your Trump destruction edifice is sitting on a very shaky foundation.
I can see where Russian or Italian law enforcement may be interested, but
FIRST, it's not a question of what have I got
It's a question of what has all of Mueller's digging found?
Especially into Trump's finances...
"why would U.S. law enforcement be?"
You're absolutely kidding right????? A President, whose personal financial well being, is tied to a foreign criminal organization, an organization that has direct ties to a nation's foreign intelligence spy service and political executive branch, that is hostile to America, and therefore makes the President subject to both that foreign hostile nation's political influence and blackmail, possibly causing the President to act against America's interest in favor of Russian interests instead...
and you really have to ask why the FBI would be interested???
{77} John M:
If you were to try to prevent it with guns, then you YOURSELVES would be guilty of both sedition and treason against the duly lawful Constitutional authorities of the United States.
Yep.
neilm [68]
Re "No actual involvement with them" (financial derivatives). You're right, I was only an observer.
If you had "actual involvement" I'm betting you were a BUYER of CDO's and a SELLER of CDS's, right???
So tell us, how much did you lose???
If you had "actual involvement" I'm betting you were a BUYER of CDO's and a SELLER of CDS's, right???
So tell us, how much did you lose???
I wasn't a gold miner, I was selling shovels, as I've previously stated on many occasions. I was selling real time risk analysis software that could handle the volume and complexity of the markets and instruments. At the time individual feeds were running at over five million messages per second, and it was necessary to combine multiple feeds in real time.
So, once the crash happened there was a generic rush for better real time market data analysis, and also for combining multiple markets feeds. To address counterparty credit risk it was necessary to merge position data from multiple internal systems to allow an understanding in real-time of an entities complete exposure to a market, a counterparty, a particular type of instrument, etc.
So 2009 was a bumper year for me business, and my company was bought for 50% over market price in 2010, which, as you can imagine, prompted a nice evening out with my wife.
I seldom buy individual stocks, let alone CDSs or CDOs, and have had my money in low fee index funds (s&p500, international, corporate bond, muni bond, small cap, and emerging markets) since 2000.
neilm
Glad you came through the crash so well, but a proper response from somebody so knowledgeable about derivatives would have been 'Those products, especially the CDS's were not even AVAILABLE to individuals'. As you may recall from Mike Lewis' book, Dr. Burry, with tens of $millions combined from his investors, had a helluva time getting anybody to sell him CDS's - they kept telling he was too 'small potatoes'.
So tell me about how accurate your ratings of the two derivatives turned out to be? Did your investor clients come out like Dr. Burry and John Paulson and Goldman-Sachs did, or did they go down with AIG and Lehman Bros. and Merrill Lynch???
'Those products, especially the CDS's were not even AVAILABLE to individuals'
I was just keeping things simple for you.
All of my clients lost money - that was why there was a revolution in risk management analysis after the crash. Also mandatory stress testing required investments in data collection and analysis infrastructure.
We had to understand the market structure and the instruments, as well as the counterparty implications, to position our solutions correctly. Frankly, the instruments were complex from a "volume of data" perspective, but it was the market structure and the subsequent practices (e.g. "shining a light into a dark pool") that was most difficult to overcome.
One of the best books I read was "Dark Pools" by Scott Anderson
https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Pools-Machine-Traders-Rigging/dp/0307887189
Well worth a read.
Oh, and his other book "The Quants" is also worth a read.
neilm
So now the truth comes out!! it was S&P, Moody's, Fitch, AND NEILM that caused all those poor bastards who bought the CDO's to loose all their money!
That ever keep you awake at night???
Rude Pundit nails it: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2018/01/america-shithole.html
So how are we supposed to react when we hear and Senator Dick Durbin confirms that Trump called, at the very least, African nations "shithole countries" whose people he doesn't want emigrating here? My gut reaction was utter outrage and contempt, but I have nothing but contempt for Trump and everyone who supports him, including each and every motherfucker who voted for that plague rat.
Trump supporters have been shown many off-ramps where they can get off this Highway to Hell they've been on. Support for neo-Nazis was one exit. Condemning black football players who were protesting was another. Any number of lies could have worked. All along, there have been these places where they can veer away and turn around. But so many have decided they are on the road for good, and they don't give a damn what Trump says about preventing immigrants from poor black or brown countries from coming to the U.S. in favor of people from places like Norway. And no amount of my rage at what a savage Trump is will change that because a racist is a racist is a racist.
…The president is a racist. We knew that. Millions of people in this country are racist. We knew that, too. We also know that many racists don't think of themselves as racist and sure don't want to be called "racist." Well, here's another gut check, motherfuckers. If you can stand with a man who believes what Trump believes, with a man who has the power over life and death and is wielding that power against people of color, then you have made your choice to plunge into the shithole Trump has created and wallow around in his shit, pretending that it's not shit at all. We are a shithole as long as Trump remains president.
Dance, lil monkees, dance!!
how dare you equate upstanding members of this community with a 1960's television band. you're so racist.
"that's racist. heaven is so racist"
~jason, 'the good place'
That ever keep you awake at night???
:)
I can only show them the risk levels, I can't get them to make intelligent decisions about them.
If your speedometer is accurately registering 200mph and you put the foot harder on the gas, you can't blame the speedometer manufacturer if you crash.
Derivatives are complex transactions, for sure. But think of the complexities in drug cash laundering. One billion USD is drug trade involves the waste product of 11 tons of US currency. ($1B / $100) bills times (exactly 1 gm./ bill).
Currently, much of the coke and heroin, along with almost all non-domestically grown pot, is processed in, or routes through, Mexico. But the organizations have to make their massive payrolls, and most of their purchases, and expenditures, largely in pesos.
The time when banks or multinational corporations could safely get involved in unknown-origin currency, rather than electronic, transactions, is largely over.
That's a complex problem. Evidently some with that problem simply decide to deal with it later. See the 22 billion dollars in 100's, along with the albino tiger and gold plated .357 owned by a drug lord, here:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/19/22-billion-dollars-found-photos-of-a-mexican-drug-lords-home-after-being-raided/
Paula [88]
I see Lee Papa is still pulling his punches ;)
So apparently Hawaii had some sort of screw-up re: a missile strike. Two friend of mine are there now on vacation and they were frightened out of their wits.
Blotus continued to golf.
[92] neilm: Yep!
Later, Trump claimed that he had gotten "letters" from network anchors praising his meeting skills to high heaven. When pressed, the White House had to admit that these letters did not actually exist.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/368465-anderson-cooper-mocks-trumps-claim-that-news-anchors-sent-him-letters-of
What a farce. I mean, this clown just lies by habit. Claiming he had "letters from anchors" and then having his lackeys find a bunch of tweets (which are not letters), none of whom were from anchors, and not announcing that this was the most impressive thing they had ever seen.
We are through the looking glass.
Michale
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"Do you see how you sound EXACTLY like a hysterical birther who said Odumbo's birth certificate was a forgery???"
John M
40
NO. SINCE I HAVE PROOF AND YOU NEVER DID
_______________
John M, I would like to amend your response to add:
But thank you, Michale, for conceding the fact that Donald Trump is hysterical. :)
Trey Gowdy resigns from Ethics Committee. I know working on an ethics committee when you have no ethics must be tiring, but still…
Paula
97
Trey Gowdy resigns from Ethics Committee. I know working on an ethics committee when you have no ethics must be tiring, but still…
Yep. Remember that Gowdy was also on Trump's transition team, and Mueller obtained all their emails .
http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-has-obtained-tens-of-thousands-of-trump-transition-team-emails-2017-12
I would wager that Gowdy's stepping down and the Mueller team investigation are wholly and unequivocally related. :)
[98] Kick: Ooooh, I forgot Gowdy was on the transition team! Whoo boy!
Another good tweet: "I wonder how many U.S. presidents have had nondisclosure agreements with porn stars."
Michale,
What do you think the chances are that Biden decides to run against Trump in 2020?
JM,
You mentioned a document...
All you have is this???
[48] Michale
Here you go:
From: Gearan, Anne
Date: January 12, 2018 at 6:43:20 PM EST
To: WHCA pool distro Kate Price
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [WHCA TV] [WH Pool] Travel pool report 2/readout on physical
White House Press Secretary Sara Sanders passes along this report after the physical:
"The President's physical exam today at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center went exceptionally well. The President is in excellent health and I look forward to briefing some of the details on Tuesday." Dr. Ronnie Jackson
Says the official White House blurb sent out to the Press Pool, which obviously was NOT either sent or written by Dr. Jackson himself, as it spelled his first name wrong, as Ronnie instead of Ronny.
BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
JM, you a funny guy...
All you have is "proof" that this Anne Gearan person doesn't know how Dr Jackson spells his first name.. :D
You see how hysterical you are???
When there are multiple possibilities to an issue, you automatically gravitate to the possibility that is hysterically anti-Trump..
HHPTDS... Definitely Hyper Hysterical President Trump Derangement Syndrome...
Russ,
. I am not diagnosing Trump, I am simply assessing his apparent mental state.
OK, fair enough..
But, are you willing to concede that your assessment COULD be influenced by your hatred of him??
Is that not possible???
Or tell me what Trump is saying here?
Happy to.... President Trump is saying:
"Sure, you see that a lot with me and then all of a sudden somebody’s my best friend. I could give you 20 examples. You give me 30. I’m a very flexible person."
That is what President Trump is saying....
"Any other ball busters??"
-Adam Sandlar, BILLY MADISON
:D
I like Mark Sumner’s response on the Daily Kos:
Oh, well Daily Kos!?? Why didn't you say so!!??
And I'll give you a quote from Brietbart that says President Trump is the second coming.. :D
Trump doesn’t have that safety net in place, which is a real problem if he is in fact suffering from dementia.
And you know what!!!???
There is NO ONE in the administration who knows how to deal with Klingons if, in fact, President Trump turns out to be a Klingon...
"OH MY GOD, WHAT A FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!!"
-Marisa Tomeii, MY COUSIN VINNY
Even if Trump only suffers from the effects of dementia 10% of the time, that should concern you!
Russ, if I spent just 10% of my time worrying about "ifs", I would not be the happy go-lucky guy you see before you today... :D
ESPECIALLY "ifs" that are nothing but politically motivated bullshit that has absolutely NOTHING to do with reality...
You should take a lesson... :D
Let me show you...
"Russ, even if there is only a 10% chance that Odumbo was a muslim Manchurian Candidate, that should have concerned you!!!"
Now, tell me.. Honestly....
How much would you HONESTLY worry about the "if" that Odumbo was a muslim Manchurian Candidate??
:D
The world will continue to spin, even after President Trump..
This country will still be standing, even after President Trump..
From all indications, this country is going to be BETTER off after President Trump leaves office in 2025...
So, chillax.... Have a beer.. Or 10...
You sound like you could use them... :D
Michale,
What do you think the chances are that Biden decides to run against Trump in 2020?
Trying to make nice now after the insults???
Hokay... :D
I honestly don't think Biden will run... Age is a factor... If he does run, I don't think he will make the Dem Primary.. Too establishment, too Part Of The Past..
If he makes the Dem Primary, President Trump will demolish him for the same reasons he demolished Hillary...
Biden is the past...
Plus, and I know you don't want to hear this, he has some Weistein-esque skeletons in his closet...
Disgusting rumors and sick innuendo, I agree..
But in this day and age??? Enough to derail anyone's career choice.. Even Biden's..
Joshua,
how dare you equate upstanding members of this community with a 1960's television band. you're so racist.
"that's racist. heaven is so racist"
~jason, 'the good place'
Hehehe Once again, my mark on Weigantia is indelible and undeniable. :D
Loved the show!!! What did you think of the ending??
Whatta twist, eh?? :D
Wonder how they will go in Season 2..
BREAKING: Indictment Handed Out In Russian Bribery Case Involving Uranium One, Hillary Clinton
https://www.dailywire.com/news/25828/breaking-indictment-handed-out-russian-bribery-ryan-saavedra#
Since ya'all have established that an INDICTMENT of anyone is PROOF of guilt of President Trump..
I am sure ya'all will concede the same thing with Hillary Clinton.. :D
Crooked Hillary.. How apt.. :D
But, hay.. Let me help ya'all out here..
"Well... That's different"
-Weigantians....
"Yer welcome"
-Maui, MOANA
WHOOAAAAA!!!!
BREAKING NEWS
JUDGES OF THE NINTH CIRCUIT, WHICH INCLUDES HAWAII, HAVE JUST ISSUED A RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP, ORDERING HIM NOT TO BLOCK ANY MORE NORK MISSILES THAT WANT TO IMMIGRATE TO THE US
Damn that President Trump!!!!
You may be right but, I hope you're wrong.
JM,
And there is not a damn thing you and Trump's supporters can do about it thru non violent means since it is ALL perfectly LEGAL ( Not saying that either of those two ARE going to happen )
If the evidence is fraudulent or perjurous, then the actions based on that evidence is illegal..
It's that simple...
Illegally removing a sitting President that was freely, fairly and legally elected is sedition and treason and I not only have the *RIGHT* to oppose that action by force of arms..
It's my goddamn DUTY to oppose that action by force of arms... I swore an oath to defend the United States against all enemies, foreign *AND DOMESTIC* and that oath is in effect today as it was the first day I took it..
Here's a little trick that will force you to agree with my position..
Pretend it's President Odumbo and it's the GOP that is trying to remove a freely, fairly and legally elected DEMOCRAT President by illegal actions..
Of course, you hysterical Left Wingers HAVE no arms to bring force with, so ya'all would just have to resort to wearing pink pussy hats.. :D
But you get the point..
If the hysterical NeverTrumpers try to remove President Trump based on false trumped up and out n out bullshit data, Trump supporters WILL respond..
And it won't be pretty... And it won't be bloodless...
This is the reality and it IS that simple...
Deal with it..
about Biden not running, I mean ...
You may be right but, I hope you're wrong.
I hope I am too....
Biden should retire on a high note.. I don't think he is the kinda guy who wants his last political act to be a losing campaign...
Plus, and I know you don't want to hear this, he has some Weistein-esque skeletons in his closet...
Disgusting rumors and sick innuendo, I agree..
But in this day and age??? Enough to derail anyone's career choice.. Even Biden's..
Thank you, Dumbocrat Party.
:^/
Another good tweet: "I wonder how many U.S. presidents have had nondisclosure agreements with porn stars."
But the woman denies it..
Aren't ALL women to be believed???
Ahhhhh EXCEPT if what they say supports President Trump...
Gods, yer hypocrisy is so sick and pathetic, Paula...
JM,
So, you are on record as stating that the excellent bill of health that President Trump got is false..
Dr Ronnie Jackson is going to brief reporters on President Trump's excellent health on Tuesday...
What will be your claim then?? That goons are hold Dr Jackson's family hostage?? That Dr Jackson is a shapeshifter hiding out from Sam & Dean??
Or will you just concede that you're full of shit and suffering from the mid-stages of HHPTDS???
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/meninskirtstrend.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1
The new rage for hysterical NeverTrumper men... :D
:D
Threats to kill Steelers and fans lead to arrest: report
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/14/threat-to-kill-steelers-and-fans-leads-to-arrest-report.html
JAGS fans are CRAZY!!!! :D
neilm [90]
The question is did "the risk levels you showed them" have any relation to reality, or were they based on the belief that because house prices hadn't experienced a meaningful decline in three quarters of a century, that they never would again????
Re Dr. Ronnie's/Dr. Ronny's diagnosis, there is substantial question in my mind as to whether there even exists within medical science a clinical test for 'Assholeism'??
[106] Michale
"BREAKING: Indictment Handed Out In Russian Bribery Case Involving Uranium One, Hillary Clinton"
YET ANOTHER instance of you NOT reading your own link that you provided. Since the man indicted has NO links to Clinton herself, and was indicted due to connections involving Russians, NOT Americans.
[109] Michale
"If the evidence is fraudulent or perjurous, then the actions based on that evidence is illegal.."
So, your WHOLE defense and premise to justify YOUR HYSTERIA is based on the VERY OUTSIZED possibility that any charges brought forth as a basis for such action MIGHT be false??? REALLY??? Sounds like two things to me:
1.) You are totally ignoring the fact that a very public trial has to be conducted by the U.S. Senate, half of whom are from the President's own party, who in order for your nightmare scenario to come true have to be involved in some kind of conspiracy and
2.) You are really running scared that all the charges against Trump may actually turn out to be true. That is so obviously on full display by your own HYSTERIA on this constant drumbeat of armed violence to save Trump from being overthrown like he's some Royal King who is being unjustly maligned.
Michale, you really HAVE gone off the DEEP END
Michale
"So, you are on record as stating that the excellent bill of health that President Trump got is false.."
AGAIN, COMPREHENSION problem. I am NOT on record saying anything about President Trump's health.
I am on record saying YOU were WRONG to take a press statement that CANNOT actually be attributed to Dr. Jackson and crow about it when it can be so obviously demonstrated as coming from some White House flunky who cannot even be bothered to check to spell Dr. Jackson's name correctly and we should all wait to hear from Dr. Jackson himself instead.
YET ANOTHER instance of you NOT reading your own link that you provided. Since the man indicted has NO links to Clinton herself, and was indicted due to connections involving Russians, NOT Americans.
Another instance of you talking out your ass and ignoring the FACTS due to your Party Slavery...
The indictment is in connection with the Uranium One Deal...
And Clinton is up to her eyeballs in the Uranium One deal...
AGAIN, COMPREHENSION problem. I am NOT on record saying anything about President Trump's health.
Bullshit.. You claimed that the report was a "forgery"...
All you have is bullshit. And when you get caught, you spin it to cover up your incompetence...
Michale, you really HAVE gone off the DEEP END
Says the guy who is suffering from Hyper Hysterical President Trump Derangement Syndrome.. :D
The simple fact is, ya'all raised the question of President Trump's health and, once again, it turns out that the President's health is fine and ya'all have egg all over your faces again.. :D
I think it will be great if Blotus lies about his physical because it will be harder for him to claim physical unfitness when he goes on trial. Mental unfitness - that's what he's gonna bank on when all his chickens come home to roost.
Meanwhile a wonderful patriot has been projecting "SHITHOLE" onto the front of the Drumpf Hotel in Washington, DC. Perfect!
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/shthole-projected-onto-trump-hotel-in-washington-dc/
I think it will be great if Blotus lies about his physical because it will be harder for him to claim physical unfitness when he goes on trial. Mental unfitness - that's what he's gonna bank on when all his chickens come home to roost.
Says the person who has absolutely NO CREDIBILITY whatsoever when it comes to ANYTHING President Trump...
Your shitty candidate lost..
Deal with it...
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/382fabdd39258fa3c164e6c7ef92f7fc51a6c89901fcc10e3148f8f37f318680.jpg?w=800&h=409
If President Trump did describe Haiti as a "shithole" (something ya'all have absolutely NO FACTS to support) he was merely speaking to the facts...
It's interesting too how Trumpers have no problem with Blotus being a serial adulterer. No doubt these fake-patriot-fake-christians LOVE that Blotus has sex with porn actresses, although he then has to pay them off so they can't tell the public what a lousy lover he is. There's already TWO porn actresses identified that have been paid off and Michael Wolf quotes Bannon? was it - that Blotus' lawyer has made over 100 payoffs to different women.
Interesting - and revealing - the Trumpers don't seem bothered by the second-grade-level-incipient-dementia level of discourse President Shithole favors. Tells us a lot about the intellectual-processing capacity of Blotus' followers.
There's already TWO porn actresses identified that have been paid off
With absolutely NO FACTS to support the claim..
But, when it comes to your HHPTDS, NONE of ya'all care about FACTS...
If everything said about President Trump is factual, then everything said about Crooked Hillary Clinton is ALSO factual...
Hapless republicans making rounds on Sunday News shows denying Blotus ever said shithole. They can't get their stories straight -- can't decide what they're denying and what they're supporting. Makes it tough to produce talking points when the story changes every hour. Is Blotus a proud racist or is he supposed to pretend he isn't again? Except that he is and can't keep his big mouth shut about it.
JAGS SCORE!!!!! :D
Hapless republicans making rounds on Sunday News shows denying Blotus ever said shithole. They can't get their stories straight
DO you have *ANY* facts that proves your claim that Trump said "shithole"??
Of course you don't...
You never have facts...
The shifting GOP talking point: "You can't prove that he said shithole but if he did it's GREAT! and if HE said he did 10 hours ago he DID and if he said he didn't 3 hours ago he DIDN'T and either is GREAT and it doesn't matter that he's a liar or can't remember what he said because…because…because we say so, so there!"
Hay Paula...
Cofveve!! :D
BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
It's funny that Blotus called several people asking how his shithole comment was playing in the media.
Now that Blotus the Putin-d!cklicker is getting a lot of pushback (from everyone except David Duke and the racist deplorables) he's backing off his shithole comment. And all his little GOP lackeys are trying to push the story that he never said it at all. Such courage!
Paging General Kelly...
JAGS ARE KICKING STEELERS ASS!!!!!!
[122] Michale
"The indictment is in connection with the Uranium One Deal...
And Clinton is up to her eyeballs in the Uranium One deal..."
Looks like it's time for a reminder of the FACTS:
1) The deal involved the sale of a Canadian company, not an American company, to a Russian company.
2) The Russians, to export any uranium, still require a separate export license, in addition to the purchase of the company
3) In addition to Clinton's State Department, the deal had to be approved by a) The US Nuclear Regulatory Commission b) the state of UTAH'S nuclear regulator and c) 9 other government agencies
4) The man accused of giving 141 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation in exchange for profiting from the deal (The heart of the so called indictment of Clinton's alleged corruption) sold off his entire stake in the company 3 years before the sale took place.
Paula
88
Rude Pundit nails it: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2018/01/america-shithole.html
Wow... rude Pundit really does nail it! :)
JM,
3) In addition to Clinton's State Department,
Thank you for conceding my point..
John M
121
I am on record saying YOU were WRONG to take a press statement that CANNOT actually be attributed to Dr. Jackson and crow about it when it can be so obviously demonstrated as coming from some White House flunky who cannot even be bothered to check to spell Dr. Jackson's name correctly and we should all wait to hear from Dr. Jackson himself instead.
It's also illegal for Sarah Sanders to create a statement like that from a medical doctor. Ignorance of the law is obviously no excuse, and Sarah wouldn't be the first person who followed Trump's orders and committed a fraud.
I too am no medical doctor, but I've got two eyes and I'm calling it now: BLOTUS is either overweight or obese. Since it's been long established he's a bona fide asshole, that basically makes him "Fat Bastard."
I don't know a medical doctor or a rear admiral like the subject doctor, who wouldn't know how to spell his own name or who wouldn't use his credentials after his correctly spelled name... or who would announce that an overweight/obese person was in "excellent" health... particularly when the results of certain tests hadn't even had time to be returned from the laboratory yet.
Also, Rear Admiral Ronny L. Jackson is NOT performing a mental evaluation, so obviously it is possible that with the obvious exception of being a fat bastard, BLOTUS may have had a decent checkup. Be that as it may, I still don't know a doctor that would pronounce an overweight/obese person to be in "excellent health."
I mean, think about it: Does anyone here even know an overweight/obese person who would pronounce themselves in "excellent health"? I don't know anyone that ignorant.
[144] Kick: in keeping with Blotus's "whatever works in the moment" ethos, I've heard Blotus likes to claim he's taller than he is so that he can pretend he hasn't met the technical threshold for obesity.
Paula
145
I've heard that too.
Why does his height/weight matter? It probably wouldn't except for the fact that he lies about himself being obese and in "excellent health" while fat shaming others.
http://knowyourmeme.com/forums/general/topics/42772-trump-on-obesity-ill-build-weight-loss-clinics-and-force-rosie-odonnell-to-pay-for-it
He's a 71-year-old fat bastard who therefore obviously cannot be in "excellent health" by any competent medical standards, but he seems A-okay with fat shaming.
[146] Plus it shows how his mind works - how he makes unpalatable facts go away.
He's a 71-year-old fat bastard who therefore obviously cannot be in "excellent health" by any competent medical standards, but he seems A-okay with fat shaming.
He's a fatuous ass of a man.
[141] John M: Thanks for noting the facts. They will, however, make no impression on the spigot. The problem with arguing facts with liars is that all the liar has to do is tell another lie.
CRS [117]
The stability of the housing market is a strategic call, not one typically analyzed by risk management software. Different type of analysis.
"Top down" risk assessment (i.e. big picture) is typically done by people, although some AI bots are said to be developing strategic trading capabilities.
"Bottom up" risk analysis (e.g. what is my exposure from this instrument now that the dollar/euro rate has risen 5 cents) is the domain of the big calculators called "Risk Management Software".
We can look at past health announcements and compare:
Obama's letters outline the president's vitals -- all within a healthy range -- and offer brief summaries of all his major body systems and some parts such as head/ears/nose/throat. All lab results came back normal, including a PSA test for prostate cancer, which is recommended by the American Cancer Society for African-American men beginning at age 45, because they are considered at high risk for the disease.
All four of Obama's reports listed his current medications. In 2016, the president was advised to take vitamin D daily, Nexium "as needed for occasional acid reflux symptoms," Nicotine gum (as needed for ongoing smoking cessation efforts), as well as Malarone "as indicated during global travel to malaria endemic areas."
Thus either 45 isn't going to release his, or he is going to summarize in a formal manner (i.e. low, high, healthy range assessments for BMI, blood levels, etc.). The current chatter sounds suspiciously as though 45 asked the doc - "Would you say I'm in good health for a 71 year old?" and the doc replied "There are some issues, but nothing major" at which point 45 translated that in his head to "excellent health".
Thus either 45 isn't going to release his, or he is going to summarize in a formal manner (i.e. low, high, healthy range assessments for BMI, blood levels, etc.). The current chatter sounds suspiciously as though 45 asked the doc - "Would you say I'm in good health for a 71 year old?" and the doc replied "There are some issues, but nothing major" at which point 45 translated that in his head to "excellent health".
The HHPTDS is strong with this one.. :D
You see how ya'all nitpick on the minutest of details and spin them so they are anti-Trump...
Ya'all are so hysterically anti-Trump that you simply cannot see how far gone ya'all are..
It's really sad to see once rational and intelligent people reducing to hysterical stark raving fanatics..
President Trump is your president. Accept that and your lives will be a lot better....
“Donald Trump is an embarrassment and a national disgrace,” she huffed. “Members of Congress have a responsibility to the American people and our democracy to impeach him,” she said, citing “name-calling” and “the disrespect of women” as two reasons why.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/maxine-waters-impeach-trump-ill-informed-deplorable-comments-haiti-countries/
This is why ya'all are so hysterical and simply cannot be believed in ANYTHING ya'all say...
Oh.. Oh... Oh...
I sense another MMMMR coming!!! :D
I've heard Blotus likes to claim he's taller than he is so that he can pretend he hasn't met the technical threshold for obesity.
Yer such a liar, Paula..
You heard no such thing.. You just like to make shit up, as long as it's hateful against President Trump...
President Trump kicked the ever livin' SHIT out of Hillary Clinton..
This is fact...
Deal with it..
To a Rat-Infested Trench
And Wave 25th Amendment
Having encountered Michael Wolff and having had an acidulous public exchange with him, I attest that he is an utterly odious man. He can’t write properly, has no professional integrity, and is a sociophobic mud-slinger and myth-maker. His entry into the continuing Trump controversy in its twilight proclaims that we have reached the era of the swiftly evaporating, nausea-inducing nothingburger.
Yet, in what will surely prove the one civically useful thing Mr. Wolff will have done in his adult life, he has performed almost the final evisceration of the throbbing pustule of deranged Trumpophobia. His book is so overtly and egregiously false, so completely worthless as an account of what is happening in the White House, the respectable elements of Trumpophobia are finally taking to the lifeboats. They can no longer do boat drill with, and wear the same uniform as, the psychotics, the displaced crooks and decayed servitors of Clintonia, and the violent riff-raff of the extreme Left and Right.
http://www.nysun.com/national/president-trumps-foes-retreat-to-a-rat-infested/90168/
yep.... The whining idjuts suffering from HHPTDS have finally jumped the shark...
The anti-Trump movement, of which I’m a proud member, seems to be getting dumber. It seems to be settling into a smug fairy tale version of reality that filters out discordant information. More anti-Trumpers seem to be telling themselves a “Madness of King George” narrative: Trump is a semi-literate madman surrounded by sycophants who are morally, intellectually and psychologically inferior to people like us. I’d like to think it’s possible to be fervently anti-Trump while also not reducing everything to a fairy tale.
-David Brooks
By the way, liberals shouldn’t get too excited. Trump didn’t lose one vote with his comment. I have many liberal, elitist Ivy League friends. They all felt the need to tell me how terrible and offensive Trump’s words were. They called him “racist.” Guess what? None of them was ever voting for Trump anyway.
But all my middle-class, working-class and small-business pals and fans have weighed in. They said, “Bravo. Finally, someone in power talks like we do, let’s it fly, doesn’t sugarcoat the truth.” Trust me, 63 million Trump votes are secure for 2020.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/wayne-allyn-root/commentary-donald-trumps-comments-were-crude-but-theyre-the-raw-truth/
This is the point that the hysterical NeverTrumpers will never get..
PRESIDENT Trump is doing *EXACTLY* what he was hired to do... He is ignoring Political Correctness and telling it like it is...
Everyone knows that Haiti et al are shitholes... President Trump simply stated the facts without a single thought to PC bullshit..
THAT is the POTUS this country wants... THAT is the POTUS this country NEEDS....
Donald Trump is President... This is the fact and the reality..
Deal with it..
If Democrats want DACA, make them give us the world in return. What cards are they holding? Trump is “Making America Rich Again.” His agenda is a success. He’s in the driver’s seat. The 63 million Americans who voted for Trump don’t want DACA. Why would we give in and get nothing in return?
Here’s the list — plain and simple. We want full funding of the wall … funding for thousands of new border and ICE agents … extreme vetting … an immediate end to chain migration … e-verify so illegal aliens can never be hired again … an end to the visa lottery … an end to birthright citizenship … and a five-year ban on welfare and food stamps for any foreigner in the United States.
That’s called negotiation. We have no reason to give in on DACA. We won the election, remember? We control all levels of government, remember? But if you want it, you’re going to have to give us everything we want. And I mean everything.
Elections have consequences, people...
President Trump is in charge... He sets the agenda.. Democrats and Republicans dance to his tune..
"These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN
You know one of the biggest factors of a shithole area??
Poverty...
Op-Ed Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?
Guess which state has the highest poverty rate in the country? Not Mississippi, New Mexico, or West Virginia, but California, where nearly one out of five residents is poor. That’s according to the Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure, which factors in the cost of housing, food, utilities and clothing, and which includes noncash government assistance as a form of income.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html
So, I guess that makes California a shithole too.. :D
"Simple logic"
-Admiral James T Kirk
Michale,
But, are you willing to concede that your assessment COULD be influenced by your hatred of him??
Is that not possible???
No, it isn’t playing into my assessment.
Here’s why I know this is the case:
My dislike of Trump makes me want to declare that he is NOT suffering from dementia! If Trump is suffering from dementia, he won’t face any jail time for his crimes, and I want him to be incarcerated! I have no doubt that when Mueller recommends Trump be indicted, his defense team is going to claim he is not mentally fit to stand trial.
Happy to.... President Trump is saying:
"Sure, you see that a lot with me and then all of a sudden somebody’s my best friend. I could give you 20 examples. You give me 30. I’m a very flexible person."
That is what President Trump is saying....
That’s what I figured you’d say....because you know that I am right. “You give me 30” what? What does Trump want 30 of? He’s “flexible”? I’m sure he couldn’t touch his toes unless they were chopped off and handed to him. His answer to the question asked of him starts off OK, but then becomes babbling that makes no sense!
Sorry you can’t just admit that Trump’s speech patterns are troubling.
While hysterical opponents hurl baseless charges, the president governs deftly. After 18 months of scrutiny, the accusation that Donald J. Trump colluded with the Kremlin to win the White House looks as empty as a Soviet store shelf. Far-Left Democrats screamed for Trump’s impeachment even before his inauguration.
Nonetheless, the House considered articles of impeachment on December 6. The measure was massacred 364–58. House minority leader Nancy Pelosi of California and minority whip Steny Hoyer of Maryland were among the 126 Democrats who just said “Nay.”
Undeterred, the Trump-loathing Left’s latest gambit is that the president is “unfit for office” due to mental illness. “Trump needs to be medicated and hospitalized,” Joy Behar, co-host of ABC News’s The View, said last week.
NBC News’s Peter Alexander asked at a White House daily press briefing, “Should Americans be concerned about the president’s mental fitness?”
Representative Jamie Raskin (D., Md.) told CNN that “there’s basically no real medical cure for the condition that he’s demonstrating” and added: “My interest is doing our institutional duty under the 25th Amendment,” which would remove Trump for mental incapacity.
Never having examined Trump, Yale psychiatry professor Bandy X. Lee nonetheless told congressional Democrats that he “is unraveling” and “becoming very unstable very quickly.” The American Psychiatric Association admonished its members on Tuesday: “Arm-chair psychiatry or the use of psychiatry as a political tool is the misuse of psychiatry and is unacceptable and unethical.” President Trump's 8 Biggest Accomplishments Such Trumpophobes wave their copies of Fire and Fury, Michael Wolff’s new Trump-bashing extravaganza, as if it were the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. The president’s alleged “childishness,” unfamiliarity with former House speaker John Boehner, and taste for cheeseburgers and fried chicken supposedly require his immediate ouster due to insanity.
Rubbish.
-NRO
You people just don't get it... Ya'all are STUCK with President Trump until 2025....
No amount of hysterical theatrics or fear-mongering is going to change this one simple fact...
The ONLY thing ya'all are accomplishing is proving how utterly hysterical and completely irrational ya'all are..
President Trump is YOUR* president.. It's past time ya'all settle down and accept that...
* sans non-US citizens...
No, it isn’t playing into my assessment.
Yea, that's what you THINK...
But the facts clearly show you are wrong..
My dislike of Trump makes me want to declare that he is NOT suffering from dementia! If Trump is suffering from dementia, he won’t face any jail time for his crimes, and I want him to be incarcerated!
Exactly.. You hate him so much, you WANT him to be incarcerated..
Thank you for proving my point..
Sorry you can’t just admit that Trump’s speech patterns are troubling.
I simply don't pretend to know what President Trump is thinking because it's IMPOSSIBLE for me to know that..
Just as it is IMPOSSIBLE for YOU to know that..
But, unlike me, you CHOOSE to speak out your ass and make claims that you simply CANNOT know...
And what is so pathetically sad is that you actually BELIEVE the bullshit you are spewing..
Your hatred of PRESIDENT Trump is so intense and blinding, you actually BELIEVE you know what is in Trump's mind..
That's sad...
It has been 51 weeks since he was sworn in and 14 months since he was elected. Yet Trump’s antagonists still remain in a canyonesque state of denial that he legitimately clobbered 16 GOP rivals, the House of Bush, the Obama operation, the Clinton machine, the Republican establishment, and the old-guard media en route to the White House — in his very first political campaign. Trump’s stunning achievement hardly seems that of a maniac.
Leftists, not Trump, needed straitjackets on the first anniversary of Election Day 2016. Trump’s detractors gathered across America in public parks and literally hollered themselves hoarse.
Madonna announced: “I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.”
Comedian Kathy Griffin published a photo of herself holding a mock-up of Trump’s blood-soaked, chopped-off head. The Public Theater’s production of Julius Caesar featured a Trump-like version of the Roman emperor who gets stabbed to death on stage.
Antifa terrorists have silenced conservative speakers, shattered storefront windows, ignited blazes, and assaulted people in Make America Great Again hats — all to resist Trump’s “fascism.”
Inflamed over Trump’s disposal of Obama’s useless and needless “net neutrality” regulations, Trump haters hurl obscenities and racial slurs at FCC chief Ajit Pai, an American-born citizen of Indian descent. Someone on the FCC’s comment page called Pai a “dirty sneaky Indian.” Another wrote, “Keep in mind: We all have the power to murder Ajit Pai and his family.” Pai took such bigotry and death threats seriously and cancelled his address to this week’s Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
This is what you people have become....
It's just.... sad....
So, how bout that Jaguars game yesterday, eh??
What a nail-biter... :D
Next stop, Minnesota by way of Foxborough... :D
This is what you people have become....
Just to be clear...
Not ALL of ya'all have become these sick and twisted people..
But those that HAVEN'T become that are almost as guilty because they don't reign in these extremist scumbags..
And, as ya'all have established beyond any doubt... Silence does, indeed, give assent..
Michale
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This alternate way of measuring poverty is interesting stuff and takes into account cost-of-living: housing, taxes, medical costs, etc. So using the Census Bureau's Supplemental Poverty Measure instead of the Official Poverty Measure, California is only slightly worse than Michale's "shithole" in Florida.
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http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
That study does account for cost-of-living, including taxes, housing and medical costs, and is considered by researchers a more accurate reflection of poverty. For a two-adult, two-child family in California, the poverty threshold was an average of $30,000, depending on the region in the state, according to a 2014 analysis by Public Policy Institute of California.
Looking at state poverty rates, the second highest is Florida’s 19 percent, followed by New York’s and Louisiana’s shared 17.9 percent rate. The national average is 15.1 percent using the supplemental measure.
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We totally already knew you lived in a "shithole," but thanks for pointing out you were born in one too.
Just think: Now that California has legalized recreational marijuana and the money is beginning to "roll" in throughout the state, it's only a matter of time before your "shithole" tops the poverty list! :)
I think you've made your point, Michale.
Now, are you at long last ready to engage in serious discussions?
This alternate way of measuring poverty
Yea, it's called SPIN and you can make it say whatever you wish...
California is only slightly worse than Michale's "shithole" in Florida.
So, we are in agreement.. California is a worse shithole than Florida...
Got it.. :D
Liz,
Now, are you at long last ready to engage in serious discussions?
Depends...
Are you at long last ready to give up your notion that "serious discussions" = "only discussions on points that agree with mine"...???
Michale
169
Yea, it's called SPIN and you can make it say whatever you wish...
I didn't "spin" anything, I looked at the data from the Census Bureau and read the statistics.
So, we are in agreement.. California is a worse shithole than Florida...
You and the Census Bureau are in agreement that California nudges out Florida, but I would wager your "shithole" will be at the top of the list fairly soon.
Got it.. :D
You sure do... born in a "shithole," now living at the precipice of "shitholes" in America and leaping one place to the very apex again any day now. Thanks for letting us know. :)
You and the Census Bureau are in agreement that California nudges out Florida,
So, you and I agree that California is a worse shithole than Florida...
Fine with me..
Blotus continues to walk back his shithole statement coz he doesn't want to be labeled a racist now that the entire world (other than nazis) is condemning him.
Meanwhile there are calls to find out from which fund President-Unfaithful-Shithole paid off Stormy Daniels. If he paid her off through campaign funds he's broken the law. Probably paid her off through his "charitable foundation" where he also breaks the law.
Awww right... STAR TREK: DISCOVERY is on... Stand by for my famous recap.. :D
Yes, Michale, you were born in a "shithole." I would actually wager that California was doing fine until you were born there, at which time it became the "shithole" of America. When you moved to Florida, it's "shithole" status was sealed, and very soon... likely any day now... you'll be right back at the very top of the "shithole" list.
The "shitholiness" of these states seems to correspond to your residence. Please stay put in your swampy "shithole" and don't degrade any other states with your presence. Statistics don't lie. Thank you again for bringing this data to our attention. :)
Saint Pence hasn't weighed in yet on President-Unfaithful-Shithole's infidelities.
Good God ...
... just because the president of the United States says something bad doesn't mean that commenters here have to repeat it, ad nauseam.
Besides, is it really necessary to have an endless asinine debate about who lives in the worst places on earth?
A more meaningful debate would shed light on why a president of the United States would say that he values immigrants from places like Norway much more that he values immigrants from African countries and Haiti and El Salvador. Isn't that a discussion worth having?
Silence is golden, indeed!
Elizabeth Miller
178
... just because the president of the United States says something bad doesn't mean that commenters here have to repeat it, ad nauseam.
If I recall correctly, the author of the blog used the term at least 10 times, and therefore we are simply staying on topic. :)
Liz,
It's become clear that it is impossible to have serious discussions with you vis a vis politics, because we can't even agree on what constitutes "serious"...
Given this fact, it's obvious that the only "serious" discussions we can have would have to do with anything BUT politics..
I am game if you are.. :D
Well, that is certainly a standard (asinine) argument that prevails around the comments sections of this blog ...
If I recall correctly, the author of the blog used the term at least 10 times, and therefore we are simply staying on topic. :)
Well, that is certainly a standard (asinine) argument that prevails around the comments sections of this blog ...
I didn't start it ... you do it more than I do ... I would find better discussion in any child's playground.
Yes, Michale, you were born in a "shithole." I would actually wager that California was doing fine until you were born there, at which time it became the "shithole" of America. When you moved to Florida, it's "shithole" status was sealed, and very soon... likely any day now... you'll be right back at the very top of the "shithole" list.
WOW..
I am living in your head.. You ascribe to me SOO MUCH power.. :D
Elizabeth Miller
179
A more meaningful debate would shed light on why a president of the United States would say that he values immigrants from places like Norway much more that he values immigrants from African countries and Haiti and El Salvador. Isn't that a discussion worth having?
That is discussed succinctly in the title: "Our Racist President" :)
Of course the challenge facing President-Unfaithful-Sh!thole and Saint Pence is that, on the rare occasions they make positive or decent statements or gestures, no one believes them (except the nazi-trumpers).
Similarly President-Unfaithful-Sh!thole is forced to place completely unqualified traitor/morons into high positions because no one decent will work for him.
Unfit man who cannot attract competent people because of his loathsomeness.
A more meaningful debate would shed light on why a president of the United States would say that he values immigrants from places like Norway much more that he values immigrants from African countries and Haiti and El Salvador. Isn't that a discussion worth having?
It's simple..
Norway is not a shithole and it's people are productive based on the kind of country they have created...
Countries like Haiti and El Salvador are shitholes and that shithole-ness was created by the people that inhabit THAT country..
Let me put it another way...
If you needed 500 hi tech people for your company and you could only choose the group enmasse from one city, would you want to choose 500 from San Francisco, CA or 500 from Palakta*, FL...
The answer is obvious and the logic is impeccable...
* Three scariest words in the human language... Palatka Nuclear Powerplant
:D
Similarly President-Unfaithful-Sh!thole is forced to place completely unqualified traitor/morons into high positions because no one decent will work for him.
General McMasters... General Mattis.... General Kelly...
Neil, et al..
This is why you people have absolutely NO CREDIBILITY...
Paula makes total bullshit claims that ya'all KNOW are bullshit and yet, you let such bullshit claims stand un-challenged...
That's why you get lumped into the hysterical and ignorant fanatics that Paula is...
So, next time I lump in you with the likes of the psychotics like Paula, you'll know why...
Reading cw.com blog posts causes me to wonder, what exactly is the commonly-accepted around here, or perhaps I should say the standard Dem/Lib definition, of "racist"? Or perhaps even of just the word "race"?
If you perceive any differences whatsoever in people (meaning the colors white and black are not identical) , are you a racist?
If you recognize that some places in the world are not nearly as 'livable' as others, are you a racist?
Help me out here, how do hyperlibs define "racist"?
Big plus for STAR TREK: Discovery..
Klingon tits!!! :D
I half expected the Emperor to be Tiberius... Missed a chance to REALLY knock on out of the ball park...
Had a hard time reconciling the ST: Enterprise Mirror Universe episodes with the ST:Discovery Mirror Universe...
Seems like the USS Defiant is one of those Guardian Of Forever focal points in time and space..
Those who know, know what I am talking about... :D
For those who don't?? Yer sadly missing out.. :D
Michale
186
WOW..
I am living in your head.. You ascribe to me SOO MUCH power.. :D
No. I ascribe to you so much shit; it seems to follow you wherever you go from cradle to present. *LOL* Anyone who pays attention to your endless shit can obviously see that it is everyone else who is living rent free in your vacuous monotonous thoughts.
I would wager you've made about 40% of the posts on this topic alone wherein you're obsessing about everyone else on this board. One need only to look at your plethora of posts to discover the fact that it's you who obsesses endlessly... obviously. Your projection is so precious, though, and you're far too consumed to see it. :)
CRS,
Help me out here, how do hyperlibs define "racist"?
That's easy...
Hysterical Left Wingers define "racist" as whatever or whoever doesn't toe their Party line...
So, Michale, are you saying that you don't believe in the idea and promise of America, or that it is an exceptional country and that the words enshrined on the statue of Liberty have no meaning?
No. I ascribe to you so much shit; it seems to follow you wherever you go from cradle to present.
No, you ascribe that my "shit" can change an ENTIRE STATE!!!
That is hilarious..
I live in your head and you have to follow me around like a little puppy dog, with your tongue hanging out to lick up all my "shit"... :D
It's like I have my own personal stalker... :D
I own you...
So, Michale, are you saying that you don't believe in the idea and promise of America, or that it is an exceptional country and that the words enshrined on the statue of Liberty have no meaning?
No where did I state or even intimate that...
How did you get there from here.. specifically...
I got there by way of mean-spirited comment [189].
And, no, that isn't the only mean-spirited comment here. But, you are the only one I really care about.
Paula
188
Similarly President-Unfaithful-Sh!thole is forced to place completely unqualified traitor/morons into high positions because no one decent will work for him.
You are no doubt referring to the 24-year-old chosen to cure the opioid epidemic except he has fake resume(s), who anybody with a keyboard could have discovered had they bothered to simply perform a 5-minute check on the Internet. :)
https://www.themaven.net/theintellectualist/news/trump-has-24-year-old-with-fake-resume-managing-national-drug-policy-AJYyOZ8pe0yYNzyuEtL50w?full=1
[200] Kick: yep! And others!
Kick,
That is discussed succinctly in the title: "Our Racist President" :)
Well, that's the short, one-sentence answer to my querry.
But, wouldn't a discussion about how that impacts the reputation of America abroad and what should be done about it be more productive that what is currently happening on this topic?
I got there by way of mean-spirited comment [189].
That's not mean-spirited..
That's factually accurate..
If you answered the question truthfully and honestly, it would go a LONG way towards you being able to address the FACTS and REALITY...
Take CRS's comment (#191) for example..
What constitutes racism???
Is stating the FACT that Haiti is a shithole, and that I wouldn't want a citizen from Haiti to run a nuclear power plant... Is that racism?? Or reality???
But, you are the only one I really care about.
Awwwwww...
"I am fatter... er FLATTERED.."
-Eddy Murphy, THE NUTTY PROFESSOR
Ooops.. I spelled Eddie Murphy's first name wrong..
Must be a forgery... :D
Michale
196
I live in your head and you have to follow me around like a little puppy dog, with your tongue hanging out to lick up all my "shit"... :D
It's like I have my own personal stalker... :D
Again, your projection is precious. One needs only to read the comments section to see what you obviously can't seem to grasp. You're obsessed with everyone here.
I own you...
Take a look around your "shithole" in the swamps and admit to yourself that you own nothing, and then take a look at this blog and read your own bullshit and let it sink in that you are owned by everyone else on this blog. It is so quite obvious. Count the times you obsess about everyone and use the word "ya'all." *LOL*
Hang tightly to your projection, whataboutism, and your fantasy, though, because it sure shit beats your reality. :)
Liz M
Re "Mean-spirited comment [189]".
Is it that you dispute or disagree with [189], or just that you prefer people wouldn't say such things regardless of how accurate or truthful they happen to be??
Elizabeth Miller
202
Well, that's the short, one-sentence answer to my querry.
It is truly succinct.
But, wouldn't a discussion about how that impacts the reputation of America abroad and what should be done about it be more productive that what is currently happening on this topic?
I have to concede this point... since anything would.
Well, for starters, I am of the mind that our country is fast becoming the laughing stock of the world. Since you are part of the "world" to which I am referring, you can confirm or deny my suspicion. :)
Take a look around your "shithole" in the swamps and admit to yourself that you own nothing, and then take a look at this blog and read your own bullshit and let it sink in that you are owned by everyone else on this blog. It is so quite obvious. Count the times you obsess about everyone and use the word "ya'all." *LOL*
Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.. :D
Is it that you dispute or disagree with [189], or just that you prefer people wouldn't say such things regardless of how accurate or truthful they happen to be??
Exactly.....
For example...
When Teddy Kennedy talked about the "deprived" and "desperate" countries of Asia and Africa, was he being racist??
No, of course not..
He has a -D after his name, so OF COURSE he wasn't being racist..
Back when President Trump had a -D after his name, Democrats HONORED Trump for a "LIFETIME of service" to black Americans...
Why, one would think that the ONLY issue here is whether or not a person has a -D after their name...
Kick,
Well, for starters, I am of the mind that our country is fast becoming the laughing stock of the world. Since you are part of the "world" to which I am referring, you can confirm or deny my suspicion. :)
What will you do to rectify the situation where much of the rest of the world is quite distressed about what is happening in your country.
What will you do to rectify the situation where much of the rest of the world is quite distressed about what is happening in your country.
What will YOU do when you discover that much of the world is NOT distressed about what is happening in my country, but rather APPROVES of what is happening in my country??
Recent quotes from the ROK leadership is indicative of what the rest of the world thinks of our country and it's President...
Michale
207
Whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.. :D
And you're obsessed with everyone's sleeping too. ;)
Elizabeth Miller
210
What will you do to rectify the situation where much of the rest of the world is quite distressed about what is happening in your country.
Trump too shall pass.
The arc of the moral universe is long, but it
bends toward justice. ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
And you're obsessed with everyone's sleeping too. ;)
Whatever you have to tell yourself to make it thru your day.. :D
The simple fact is, I own you.. As your continued responses to me prove.. :D
Michale
214
The simple fact is, I own you.. As your continued responses to me prove.. :D
Again, your projection is precious, as your continued responses to me prove along with your hijacking of questions from others to me [210].
You are SO owned by everyone else on this board that you can't allow anyone to answer a question from another poster without sticking your nose in. Bugger off.
Your peevish neediness is again duly noted.
Kick,
Trump too shall pass.
The arc of the moral universe is long, but it
bends toward justice. ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
I was hoping you might decide to do something about the arc of this (moral?) comments section. :)
CRS,
I hope you will find this of interest in your search for the definition of racism and how it relates to President Trump:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region®ion=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=0
Kick[213]
That was a lovely comment, especially on this day, and emblematic of what I wish we could see more of at this site.
[191] C. R. Stucki
"Reading cw.com blog posts causes me to wonder, what exactly is the commonly-accepted around here, or perhaps I should say the standard Dem/Lib definition, of "racist"? Or perhaps even of just the word "race"?"
Some people would define "racist" as prejudice plus the power to put that prejudice into actual concrete action of some form.
"If you perceive any differences whatsoever in people (meaning the colors white and black are not identical) , are you a racist?
Now you are trying to define a separate but related term, "racism" or "prejudice" which would be the belief of someone being inherently superior to someone else solely because of their membership in a particular "race" and not based on anything else like ability.
"If you recognize that some places in the world are not nearly as 'livable' as others, are you a racist?"
Depends. Are you saying they are not "livable" because of their conditions, like too much desert, too much pollution etc. or because of the type of people who are living there? Example: That country is not livable because it is filled with black (Jewish) people and crime (decadence), and black (Jewish) people are the cause of crime (are all perverts) simply because they are black (Jewish), and not because of anything else. One is the KKK definition from the 1950's, and the (other) is the (Nazi) definition of the 1930's.
[203] Michale
Take CRS's comment (#191) for example..
What constitutes racism???
"Is stating the FACT that Haiti is a shithole, and that I wouldn't want a citizen from Haiti to run a nuclear power plant... Is that racism?? Or reality???"
RACISM. Since a better and more accurate statement would be I don't want anyone UNQUALIFIED to run a nuclear power plant REGARDLESS of where they are from. If they are black and have a Ph.D and are from Haiti, why would them being Haitian matter?
John M
Thanks, makes sense regarding people, maybe not so much regarding countries/nations, etc.
Are not countries basically a reflection of their inhabitants? Obviously not "deserts", but pollution, crime, living standards, poverty, crime rates, etc.pretty much represent the fruits of those who live there, do they not?
[209] Michale
"When Teddy Kennedy talked about the "deprived" and "desperate" countries of Asia and Africa, was he being racist??"
NO. because he could also have been talking about the deprived and desperate nations of Europe following World War II. What you don't seem to get is that CONTEXT means everything. They are deprived and desperate for being underdeveloped, not for being inherently inferior brown and black populated nations.
John,
Nice response to CRS.
I think CRS was trying to be too cute by half when asking if someone is racist when they note that there are differences in skin pigmentation. Of course, that is a non-serious question and not a good pathway toward a definition of racism.
Hopefully, CRS will read your comment and reflect upon it before moving an important conversation forward.
John,
You make a very salient point about context. Context is what is most often missing here in the comments sections ...
[221] C. R. Stucki
"Are not countries basically a reflection of their inhabitants? Obviously not "deserts", but pollution, crime, living standards, poverty, crime rates, etc.pretty much represent the fruits of those who live there, do they not?"
See my comment 222 above.
ALSO, are you taking into account any outside influences for instance that may be totally beyond that nation's control? Let's say you invade a nation and occupy it and make it a colony. You gear all it's production towards making your own nation rich, and keep the occupied nation uneducated and starved and even kill off most of its population. Is it's current condition all its own fault?
You might think I was talking about any nation in Africa. But was I? Could I also not have just as easily been talking about Ukraine's recent history with Russia?
John M [222]
Re ". . deprived and desperate for being undeveloped . . "
Somebody long ago observed that "The forbears of the haves and the have-nots were the dids and the did-nots".
Again, are not those types of conditions that normally define 'livability', not a direct reflection of the attributes of the people who live there??
John M [225]
I'm aware that colonialism is often blamed for the fact that so many African nations are still 'undeveloped'. Can't help but wonder about Rhodesia, which was highly developed and prosperous as a colony, and is now two or three generation post-colonialism, an independent basket case, right?
However colonialism can't explain why they were never 'developed' to begin with. There was a period when EVERYBODY in the world was 'undeveloped', but some developed and some did not.
CRS,
... but pollution, crime, living standards, poverty, crime rates, etc.pretty much represent the fruits of those who live there, do they not?
Wouldn't you agree that a lot is dependent upon what sort of leadership is in place, among other variables, and that one should refrain from making such generalizations about a population.
Sweeping assertions about a population of people based on where they live and on the conditions under which they live is a big part of racism.
CRS,
A good approach to all of these issues is to avoid making assumptions about people based on their race or where they live.
Liz,
I hope you will find this of interest in your search for the definition of racism and how it relates to President Trump:
If you had something besides the NY Grime to support your argument, you MIGHT have a valid argument..
Sweeping assertions about a population of people based on where they live and on the conditions under which they live is a big part of racism.
Really???
So, NOW you are claiming that geographic location = racism...
You DO realize how ridiculous you sound, right???
Michale
It's important to be skeptical and critical when it comes to the news media. But, it isn't wise to dismiss the paper of record like it was completely unworthy.
In fact, there are many great journalists at the NYTimes and opinion writers. Recently, they have tried to be more inclusive in terms of opinion pieces that cover a wide swath of political thought across a wide spectrum of political persuasion.
Of course, one has to possess the necessary critical thinking skills to discern fact-based journalism and enlightening opinion from that which is neither.
Michale
I simply don't pretend to know what President Trump is thinking because it's IMPOSSIBLE for me to know that..
Just as it is IMPOSSIBLE for YOU to know that..
I was asking you to explain the words he said. Typically, we know what a person is thinking by the words they say. You couldn’t make sense of his babbling, so you attack me for questioning his inability to provide coherent responses.
You have proven that you will blindly support anything that Trump says even if you have no idea what he is saying! Worse, you have demonstrated that you don’t care what he says, you will blindly worship every word that comes out of his shithole! Talk about being a tool!
Michale [231]
So, NOW you are claiming that geographic location = racism...
No, not at all.
You must have missed the part about sweeping assertions.
Always remember, context is everything.
[226] C. R. Stucki
"Somebody long ago observed that "The forbears of the haves and the have-nots were the dids and the did-nots".
Would not a crucial difference between the "dids" and the "didnots" sometimes be the fact that the "dids" did not have somebody actively trying to stop them???
My POINT is TWOFOLD, NOT ALWAYS, and NOT ONLY because of:
Is America's current state of development due to its very favorable geography, blessed with a temperate climate, abundant natural resources, lack of being invaded and occupied, well watered Mississippi river system and resulting farmland, OR
Because it started out with a hardworking, Puritan, Protestant, cultural foundation as opposed to a feudal based, landed gentry cultural system based on aristocrats and large estates, OR
some combination of the two?
What if America had not started out with white Englishman but with Japanese or Chinese merchants and explorers instead?
Why do you keep trying to get someone to say that a nation's current status has something to do with some inherent failing of the people living there? Could you have predicted in 1950 that the desperate. poor, poverty wracked South Korea of then would become the technological and industrial powerhouse of South Korea of 2018?
Or that the highly developed. prosperous Argentina of the 1920's filled with German and Italian immigrants would turn out instead to be the underdeveloped, backward economic basket case of the late 20th century?
[227] C. R. Stucki
"I'm aware that colonialism is often blamed for the fact that so many African nations are still 'undeveloped'. Can't help but wonder about Rhodesia, which was highly developed and prosperous as a colony, and is now two or three generation post-colonialism, an independent basket case, right?"
Again, is that not dependent to a large degree on leadership rather than sweeping generalizations about an entire population as Elizabeth says? Mugabe ruined Zimbabwe, but did not Hitler do the same thing to Germany?
"However colonialism can't explain why they were never 'developed' to begin with. There was a period when EVERYBODY in the world was 'undeveloped', but some developed and some did not."
Except the modern definition of "developed" only started with the industrial revolution of Europe in the 1700's.
There was a time when the Aztecs and Egyptians were building huge cities with monumental works like pyramids while Europeans were still living in thatched roof huts. Correct?
Is it possible that President Trump is a racist but that he doesn't understand what being a racist means and therefore he doesn't see himself as a racist and doesn't recognize racism when he sees it?
It's important to be skeptical and critical when it comes to the news media.
And yet, ya'all swallow hook, line and sucker, ANY report that is anti-Trump..
Why is that???
In fact, there are many great journalists at the NYTimes and opinion writers.
And at Fox News and Breitbart and InfoWars???
Of course, one has to possess the necessary critical thinking skills to discern fact-based journalism and enlightening opinion from that which is neither.
And the problem is ya'all DON'T possess those skills..
If it's Anti-Trump, ya'all believe it, either by commission or omission...
THAT's my point...
[237] Elizabeth Miller
"Is it possible that President Trump is a racist but that he doesn't understand what being a racist means and therefore he doesn't see himself as a racist and doesn't recognize racism when he sees it?"
I think ONE of the definitions of "racist" is that the people who are really racist NEVER see themselves as being racist. I.E. The KKK is NOT a racist organization but is simply a fellowship organization promoting (insert your favorite phrase here) Or "I" am not a racist, because I have a black (or Jewish) friend, etc.
While the rest of us if we are being honest all would readily admit to harboring at least some kind of prejudice of our own.
Is it possible that President Trump is a racist but that he doesn't understand what being a racist means and therefore he doesn't see himself as a racist and doesn't recognize racism when he sees it?
Is it possible that ya'all don't understand what is racist and base it solely on your ideological slavery???
Typically, we know what a person is thinking by the words they say.
So, when Odumbo said there were 57 states, we knew he was thinking about his muslim Manchurian Candidate mission??
You SPIN what a person is thinking...
And you SPIN it according to your Party slavery...
You have proven that you will blindly support anything that Trump says even if you have no idea what he is saying!
And you have proven that you will blindly condemn ANYTHING Trump says even if you have NO IDEA what he is saying...
So, what's yer point???
John M
Mugabe destroyed Rhodesia by being an incompetent and corrupt dictator. Hitler destroyed Germany by going to war against foes that were tougher than he was. Not even remotely comparable. And Germany is completely recovered, but Zimbabwey (Sp?)is still deteriorating.
Not so sure about the value of Pyramids in raising living standards, etc.
[238] Michale
"And at Fox News and Breitbart and InfoWars???"
1.) One important difference is that Fox News defines itself as an "entertainment" network and not as a "news" network.
2.) I would consider Shepard Smith at Fox to be a credible unbiased journalist, totally unlike Hannity, Judge, or Tucker Carlson, all of whom seem to deal only in propaganda.
While the rest of us if we are being honest all would readily admit to harboring at least some kind of prejudice of our own.
And when has ANYONE here (sans myself) **EVER** admitted to ANY prejudice???
It has never happened..
[242] C. R. Stucki
"Mugabe destroyed Rhodesia by being an incompetent and corrupt dictator. Hitler destroyed Germany by going to war against foes that were tougher than he was. Not even remotely comparable."
Totally ignoring both the HOLOCAUST, and the fact that Mugabe waged an internal civil war inside Zimbabwe for many years against the other major tribal group and political opposition.
"And Germany is completely recovered, but Zimbabwey (Sp?)is still deteriorating."
And how LONG did it take Germany to recover??? From 1945 to 1960 for West Germany? Mugabe just died within the past YEAR. Want to give Zimbabwe at least the same amount of time before commenting?
"Not so sure about the value of Pyramids in raising living standards, etc."
My point was WHAT STANDARDS of DEVELOPMENT are you using and are such standards in ANY WAY CULTURALLY BIASED?
Michale,
And yet, ya'all swallow hook, line and sucker, ANY report that is anti-Trump..
That is simply false ... at least as far as I'm concerned.
For example ... the WSJ kerfuffle with Trump's claim about his probable relationship with KJU and whether he said I or I'd is a prime example of how inept the news media can be.
I'm with Trump on this one. Which is to say that I am sure that he said I'd and if he didn't then I am sure that he meant to say I'd for the simple reason that it doesn't make any sense to use 'I' and 'probably' in that context.
Michale,
A little off topic here but, how many territories does the US have?
I'm just trying to figure out where the number 57 came from.
And at Fox News and Breitbart and InfoWars???
I don't know if there are great journalists at these outlets as I don't really spend any time there.
Though, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are some great journalists at each of those outlets.
Do you know of any great journalists there?
Michale,
And the problem is ya'all DON'T possess those skills..If it's Anti-Trump, ya'all believe it, either by commission or omission...
I really wish you wouldn't assume that silence is assent. While there are certainly times when that may be true, always assuming that it is true - here or anywhere else, under any circumstance - is the wrong approach to take.
That is simply false ... at least as far as I'm concerned.
Michael Wolff's bullshit book..
EVERYONE here, either by commission or omission, swallowed that bullshit book, hook line and sucker..
I'm with Trump on this one. Which is to say that I am sure that he said I'd and if he didn't then I am sure that he meant to say I'd for the simple reason that it doesn't make any sense to use 'I' and 'probably' in that context.
And yet, yer the ONLY one to date who has sided with Trump on ANYTHING...
Kudos to you.. But the fact that you are the only one should tell you something..
A little off topic here but, how many territories does the US have?
I'm just trying to figure out where the number 57 came from.
It was likely completely innocent.. There are 57 voting "states" and that is likely what Obama was referring to...
But the fact is, it COULD be spin'ed to mean something nefarious... Something that those afflicted with ODS made good use of...
EXACTLY like those afflicted with HHPTDS...
I really wish you wouldn't assume that silence is assent.
But that is what YA'ALL established.. ALL of ya'all, either by commission or omission, said that, because President Trump didn't attack the NAZI scumbags in Charlottesville in the manner that YA'ALL thought it required, THAT meant that President Trump agreed with the NAZI scumbags..
YA'ALL established that Silence does give assent..
Once again, I am simply playing by ya'all's rules..
Do you know of any great journalists there?
I don't know of any great journalists, period...
There aren't any, anymore..
Are not countries basically a reflection of their inhabitants? Obviously not "deserts", but pollution, crime, living standards, poverty, crime rates, etc.pretty much represent the fruits of those who live there, do they not?
Not necessarily. Take a look at the history of Haiti and you find one colonial power after another trying to subjugate or control the divided island over the course of 400 years. Even after its revolution, America refused to recognize the country until the American Civil War. France agreed to recognize Haiti after trying to re-conquer it in 1925, finally agreeing to 'sell' the island to its inhabitants for 150 million francs (later reduced to 90 million), a debt Haiti finally paid off in 1947. America actually occupied Haiti for 20 years, from 1915 to 1934. Haiti was relatively stable for awhile after that, and even had a tourist industry - writers such as Eugene O'Neill, Noël Coward, Truman Capote, and Orson Welles all wrote about the island during this period. The Duvalier regime that came into power in 1957 was regressive, so much so that Kennedy withdrew American support, but following Kennedy's assassination, cold warriors propped up Duvalier, and that awful reign (of both 'Papa' Doc and 'Baby' Doc Duvalier) lasted until 1986. American intervention continued on the island after the Duvaliers, including Operation Uphold Democracy in 1991, in which former President Jimmy Carter negotiated the removal of a Military junta that had seized power in a military coup d'état while US bombers were in the air, minutes from bombing the very spot where those negotiations were being held.
But the president restored to power, Aristide, was unable (or unwilling) to negotiate a return to elections with his political opposition (which was still seeking to reinstate the Duvaliers), and after yet another revolt in 2004, in which America again intervened (and was accused of 'kidnapping' Aristide to effect yet another coup d'état), the United Nations established the United Nations Stabilisation Mission (MINUSTAH), which remains in the country to this day.
Throughout, and particularly in the first decade of the 21st century, Haiti has been battered by the forces of Caribbean nature. In 2004, Tropical Storm Jeanne killed 3,600. In 2008, tropical storms Fay, Gustav, Hanna, and Ike left 331 dead and 800,000 in need of humanitarian assistance. The 2010 Haiti earthquake was reported to have left between 220,000 and 300,000 people dead and up to 1.6 million homeless. Further complicating that disaster, a massive cholera outbreak was caused by cholera-infected waste from a United Nations peacekeeping station that contaminated the country's main river, killing another 10,000 Haitians (as of 2017).
So any fair assessment of Haiti's present situation has to admit more than passing blame on the outside powers that have dominated that island ever since Columbus first stepped onto its shores in 1492 and killed off most of its population by spreading smallpox. The US, France and Spain have each had roles in intensifying that country's misery since then.
Most American presidents know this. After the 2010 earthquake, former presidents Clinton and Bush organized an effort to re-build Haiti that continues to this day.
But Trump has no sense of history, which is our continuing tragedy. No sense of the legacy of colonialism, the slave trade, or gunboat diplomacy. Fox News, ever playing up to the uninformed, won't tell him.
Which leads to a pertinent question: is Trump really racist, or is he just parroting the racism of Fox News? And why isn't anyone calling out Fox for its racism, when it's been evident in its coverage extending well back before Trump? Why are Fox commentators and correspondents still considered for awards and commendations when the organization they work for actively engages in courting and catering to a racist audience?
Most American presidents know this. After the 2010 earthquake, former presidents Clinton and Bush organized an effort to re-build Haiti that continues to this day.
And the value of the Clinton foundation increased by BILLIONS of dollars..
So any fair assessment of Haiti's present situation has to admit more than passing blame on the outside powers that have dominated that island ever since Columbus first stepped onto its shores in 1492 and killed off most of its population by spreading smallpox. The US, France and Spain have each had roles in intensifying that country's misery since then.
Funny how you don't want to assess the blame that Jordan, Egypt et al share with the Palestinian situation.. You want to put the blame SOLELY on Israel..
THIS is exactly why it's IMPOSSIBLE for ya'all to have *ANY* credibility on ANY political issue..
Because your Party slavery rules *ALL* that you say and believe...
I'm going to try to put this into words that I think will cut to the bone on this "racist" issue. Ahem... It doesn't matter two "shitholes" whether or not you agree that Trump is a racist or Trump isn't a racist, BUT...
Surely the snowflakes who've spent an inordinate amount of time whining like toddlers because they were referred to as "deplorables" can understand why referring to a large portion of the world as "shitholes" is a stupid idea. I can't speak for everybody, but while I believe they have a right to peaceably assemble (key word there being peaceably), I still think Nazis are in fact "deplorable."
So even though it is a fact that the definition of "deplorable" obviously fits some of the Trump degenerates in the same manner that the term "shithole" obviously fits certain parts of the world such as Florida, etc., surely the people who whine like toddlers because they are referred to as "deplorable" can grasp the concept that people who live in "shithole" parts of the world such as Florida, etc., aren't going to like having their part of the world referred to as a "shithole" even if said part of the world is indeed a... rhymes with "spithole."
I understand that people on the right have been frustrated for decades that people on the left cry racism all too often, but that does not change the fact that Donald Trump has a long history of trafficking in the idea that brown people are bad and "less than," with his comments regarding birtherism and using issues like black football players taking a knee and screaming "fire the son of a bitch" in order to incite division and keep the proverbial fans flamed. Rationalizing any of the garbage of Trump is a ridiculous waste of time, and saying that he only has a problem with "illegal" brown people is equally an exercise in futility.
This "othering" of brown people, and not just "illegal immigrants" is alive and well and living in Don the Con Artist and opportunist who is playing the populist card (while governing exactly the opposite) and leveraging angry while male identity politics and stoking division. Yep... Fox News Entertainment and Hair Furor sure do a heck of a job using fear and othering and outright racism to keep the white race on the Republican plantation of outsourcing jobs, tax cuts for the rich, corporate subsidies, etc., and many things that benefit the elite at the expense of the common man.
I hear that Trump is packing his duds for Graubunden, Switzerland, where he'll be off to Davos in order to hobnob with his globalist elitist ilk... all while claiming to be a populist. :)
Which leads to a pertinent question: is Trump really racist, or is he just parroting the racism of Fox News? And why isn't anyone calling out Fox for its racism, when it's been evident in its coverage extending well back before Trump? Why are Fox commentators and correspondents still considered for awards and commendations when the organization they work for actively engages in courting and catering to a racist audience?
Simple answer..
The audience ISN'T really racist..
You just assume that's the case because your slavery to Party/ideology demands it...
See how easy that is???
I'm going to try
Moron says "I'm going to try"
:D
Michale
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Michael Wolff's bullshit book..
I doubt if there is any book that contains 100% facts, and that would include the Bible which contains "facts" that cannot coexist and still be correct, such as the lineage of Jesus. Anyway, the book was factual enough to enrage Hair Furor, spawn quite a few lawsuits, and send Steve Bannon packing for the exits until Trump gets over it and phones him again. :)
Whining like a toddler and spamming the blog over and over with the same copied verbiage that the entire book is false based on the preface, which is part of the entire book, is a textbook case of killing your own argument. The "thou doth protest too much" nature of your objections... not unlike those of Your Orange Worship... do nothing to mitigate the idea that there's not some truth that's attempting to be hidden.
EVERYONE here, either by commission or omission, swallowed that bullshit book, hook line and sucker..
You "talked" about it the most and loudest... as if spamming the blog would convince anyone that the preface proved the entire book was false when the preface was indeed part of the entire book.
And yet, yer the ONLY one to date who has sided with Trump on ANYTHING...
You seemingly have no ability to retain facts from day to day, and therefore you appear to lie regularly. Neil and I and several others gave him a rousing "credit where credit is due" when he hired Herb McMaster... you know... the guy you regularly refer to as "McMasters" and do a hatchet job on his name.
Kudos to you.. But the fact that you are the only one should tell you something..
It says loudly and clearly that "Michale" either has reading comprehension and retention issues or he lies on a regular basis... or both. :)
13 victims, ages 2 to 29, kept shackled in foul Perris home by parents, officials say
http://abc7.com/13-kept-shackled-in-foul-perris-home-by-parents-officials-say/2948420/
Dumbocrats :^/
Neil and I and several others gave him a rousing "credit where credit is due" when he hired Herb McMaster
That's GENERAL McMaster to you..
When did ANY of you ever give President Trump credit for that??
Never...
[247] Elizabeth Miller
"A little off topic here but, how many territories does the US have?
I'm just trying to figure out where the number 57 came from."
That depends on your definition and how you want to count them. In addition to the 50 states, there could be anywhere from 7 to 17 additional territories, both inhabited and uninhabited:
1) The Federal District of Columbia
Those that are Incorporated (Considered as much a part of the USA as any state):
2) Palmyra Atoll in the Pacific (uninhabited)
Those that are Unincorporated but inhabited territories (American territory, but not considered as integral a part of the United States proper as an American state would be, the U.S. Constitution applies only partially to these areas and not fully):
3) The U.S. Virgin Islands
4) The commonwealth of Puerto Rico
5) Guam
6) American Samoa ( The only one in the list whose people are NOT American citizens )
7) The commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands
Unincorporated, uninhabited (At least not permanently inhabited on a full time regular basis if at all) territories:
8) Baker Island in the Pacific
9) Howland Island in the Pacific ( Famous for the location of Amelia Earhart's disappearance )
10) Jarvis Island in the Pacific
11) Johnston Atoll in the Pacific
12)Kingman Reef in the Pacific
13) Wake Island in the Pacific
14) Midway Atoll or Island in the Pacific (site of a famous important WWII battle between America and Japan)
15) Navassa Island in the Caribbean ( Claimed by Haiti )
16) Seranilla Bank in the Caribbean ( Claimed by Colombia, Honduras and Jamaica )
17) Bajo Nuevo Bank in the Caribbean ( Claimed by Colombia and Jamaica)
Michale
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Moron says "I'm going to try"
Are we surprised that the guy who can't spell or punctuate properly, lives in the swamps in the "shithole" state, has little to no reading comprehension ability and pretty much zero continuity/retention of thought is reduced to this?
Cling tightly to your name calling, Michale... it let's us all know that you're fully aware you've got NOTHING. :)
Palmyra has its unique status because while it was once part of Hawaii, for whatever reason, it did not remain part of Hawaii when Hawaii became a state, it simply became a separate territory on its own with no inhabitants.
Michale
258
That's GENERAL McMaster to you..
No, actually, it isn't. Herb is good people, and I've called him Herb for decades. Not the first time you've spoken up and claimed something on someone's behalf that you can't possibly know anything about... you know, LIE.
When did ANY of you ever give President Trump credit for that??
When it happened. Duh. While you had your head up your ass and was whining and lying... like every day. :)
Never...
LIAR.
Never...
LIAR.
Prove it..
No, actually, it isn't. Herb is good people, and I've called him Herb for decades.
Prove it...
You can't... That makes YOU the liar...
Michale
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I'm not going to spoon feed you like a toddler just because you have memory issues or insist on lying or both. Neil and I were even discussing it the other day so it's been mentioned only days ago. Prove we didn't or STFU about it. :)
Prove we didn't or STFU about it. :)
I don't have to.. I know you can't prove it so I am good.. :D
You are a proven liar...
You made the claim, it's up to YOU to back it up...
Once again, Victoria's lies has been exposed for all to see.. :D
It's already archived in the blog. I already said we discussed it when it happened and also recently. You're the one who claims otherwise and can't remember shit so you look it up. You've already proven your ignorance, and I have nothing to prove that's not already archived herein and fully searchable to those with an ability to do so.
Translation: Your ignorance is NOT my problem. :)
[257] Dumbocrats :^/
That's baseless. As a matter of fact, in the body of the article, it notes that the children "are home-schooled", which suggests Republicants. But without more information I'd hesitate to guess, because that would be just stupid.
President-Unfaithful-Shithole calling any country a shithole is not the point.
Saying he wants to stop immigrants from Africa and Haiti and instead wants immigrants from Norway IS the point.
Arguing about whether ANY place on earth is or isn't a shithole is falling for the rightwing redirect. They do it well and people waste time and energy explaining obvious concepts to malicious talking-point spreaders who know perfectly well what they're lying about and then proceed to continue to lie about it.
I've seen the history of Haiti recounted several places and I've learned a lot. But none of that will mean a damned thing to the likes of the spigot (or Stucki) who's objective (as part of the rightwing propaganda machine) is to divert people from stating and restating that Donald-Trump-IS-a-RACIST.
Trump is a racist. Also an unfaithful disgusting disgrace of a husband who's paid off THREE porn actresses, as well as many unnamed women). Also a criminal conman and traitor. But especially a racist.
Michael Wolff's bullshit book..
Man, you just can't let that book go, it really got under your skin.
Did you read it? Or are you just making up what you think is in it?
Funniest damn book I've read in years. And since some of the conversations (e.g. the opening one with Ailes and Bannon) are probably recorded since they happened at Wolff's house, you can see why there has been a lot of reluctance to say "I didn't say that".
So there must be some truth in the book.
[272] neilm: There IS a striking lack of people rushing forward to say "I DIDN'T SAY THAT!" and even President-Unfaithful-Sh!thole has backed off threatening a lawsuit.
[257] Dumbocrats :^/
That's baseless. As a matter of fact, in the body of the article, it notes that the children "are home-schooled", which suggests Republicants. But without more information I'd hesitate to guess, because that would be just stupid.
It's as baseless as Paula's crap, but you don't say anything about that, now do you..
Hypocrite..
are probably recorded
So there must be some truth in the book.
Do you see how utterly ridiculous you sound, Neil??
"probably" so it MUST be true...
Where has the intelligent, rational, non-hysterical Neil gone??
I miss my little buddy... :^/
It's already archived in the blog. I already said we discussed it when it happened and also recently.
Yea, you make the claim but you can't back it up with FACTS...
Hence, you are a liar...
Hay, don't look at me..
Ya'all made that rule...
I just kick your ass all the time with it.. :D
Michale
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Yea, you make the claim but you can't back it up with FACTS...
Again, you lie.
Fact 1: It's archived in the blog at the time McMaster was appointed so I obviously can back it up with facts.
Fact 2: Anyone with a keyboard and an Internet connection has the tools to look it up.
Fact 3: Your refusal to look it up does NOT make it nonexistent.
While I believe I've made it infinitely clear that you'll always have my pity for your lack of education, poor life choices and doublewide trailer in the swamps... which you recently provided the data that proves it's a "shithole"... I don't give two shits whether or not you choose to remain an uneducated moron going forward.
Crack a book, do some research, and stop expecting everyone here to spoon-feed you like a toddler in order to make up for your obvious and glaring mental deficiencies. OAO