President Laughingstock
President Donald Trump just achieved a rather dubious distinction -- one he has often falsely levelled at previous presidents, in fact. Because President Trump has now officially and quite literally become the laughingstock of the world.
Trump began a speech this morning to the United Nations General Assembly with one of his trademark bits of boasting. At the very beginning of his speech, Trump tried out a bit of bragging that always goes over well at his political rallies: "In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country... so true." Since this was not actually a Trump rally, the world's leaders reacted to the line as pretty much anyone with even the flimsiest grasp on American history would -- they laughed out loud at Trump's ridiculous and self-serving falsehood.
Trump was visibly taken aback. "Didn't expect that reaction, but that's OK." This brought an even larger round of laughter from the entire rest of the world.
This is the first time in my experience -- and maybe ever -- that such a thing has happened at the United Nations General Assembly. Now, other American presidents may have cracked a joke or two to warm the crowd up, but laughing with an American president is not at all the same thing as laughing at an American president. While the former may have occurred previously, the latter definitely has not. All U.S. presidents, whether the rest of the world agreed with their agenda or not, were treated in a sober and dignified manner because what they said carried great weight and demanded respect from other countries' leaders. Nobody laughed at Barack Obama, George Bush (either one), Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, or any of the rest of them. This is likely because none of them treated the U.N. as just another domestic political audience to be lied to in furtherance of a president's monumental insecurity and ego. But Trump being Trump, he saw the occasion as just another opportunity to remind everyone of his own greatness. With demonstrably false boasting.
And the world laughed.
Later on in Trump's speech, he issued a warning based on his own faulty understanding of reality, when he stated that Germany risked a Russian takeover due to a new natural gas line. Trump has been beating this drum for a while, even though his claims are wildly off the mark in terms of how much energy Germany actually imports from Russia. The most laughable reaction to Trump's misunderstanding of the issue came from Angela Merkel, who retorted that she had grown up under Soviet dominance (in East Germany), and needed no schooling about what it was or what it would mean.
This time, the television cameras caught the German delegation visibly amused and smirking when Trump got his facts wrong, once again.
Just a few months ago, during a cabinet meeting, Trump stated that the rest of the world was laughing at the U.S. This is a common refrain for Trump, because it is an accusation he's been using since roughly the 1980s -- that the rest of the world was laughing at us because of the ineptitude of the current president. It's never been true previously, but now Trump has managed to make his unsubstantiated claims about others into reality. The rest of the world just laughed at Donald Trump.
He is now, in a word, the world's laughingstock.
In related news, Saturday Night Live begins its new season this weekend. Can't wait to see how they handle President Laughingstock, personally.
[Program Note: I am still in the midst of connectivity problems, but hopefully these should be worked out by tomorrow. The site itself should be up and running now, after having problems yesterday. My own connection problems should be addressed tomorrow morning. This is why today's column had to be so brief, and its why I haven't been tweeting, but hopefully by this time tomorrow everything will be back to normal. My apologies for the inconvenience, and thanks to all for your patience.]
-- Chris Weigant
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I was waiting for your reaction, Cw... and it was as swift as it was spot on. Again.
It was another car crash, as we all knew it would be, full of Pan-American bullshit and bluster. 'we love the world, adore it bigly, but don't forget, we're in charge you fucks'
None of it washes on the world stage, what's Trump going to do? sanction and tariff us all into submission...lol. Not likely. He can threaten us all with the "soon to be powerful" American military...lol, ok hold on, 'soon to be'?
We nation states of the world have decided how to deal with Trump... wait until he's gone in 2020, then America will be rid of its clown and then it's back to business.
Trump makes some good points tho, he just bullies the wrong people. China won't back off, they will see their people back to the stone age before they give in, Europe doesn't care, the middle east agrees on one thing... Trump must die and Canada will wait until Trump can't mess with NAFTA without congress' say so...
MAGA my arse.
LL&P
ISP permitting... by this time tomorrow, my spidey-senses tingle me, the Kavanaugh issue will explode. Hold on to your hats folks, don't pat any burning dogs and don't hang is fart-filled phonebooths.
HWG
Trump seemed genuinely surprised at the guffaws. The old saying "let them hate us as long as the fear us" comes to mind. Well, the UN didn't look or act very afraid. Mission not accomplished Mr. Trump. Jut your chin out, bellow, gesticulate more, and project spittle spray five rows back. You can find a lot of help old black & white how to videos on YouTube.......actually that's about 10% of YouTube....a bit less than cats. If all else fails, tarrif the bastids!
"The President is a laughingstock!" - Trump
That's one campaign promise kept.
Self-3
Or you could tariff the bastids. Tiny touch screen, I hate you so much!
[4] Badum-tish! Nice one Balty.
Let's not forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkkhrAQyrAs Dr Johnny.
LL&P
Trump was stunned that they laughed at him, because he has so thoroughly surrounded himself with sycophants who tell him how great his BigMac farts smell and paid fans to cheer every word salad that he spews during his rallies that having people respond honestly (negatively) to one of his speeches is not something he recognizes.
It was GREAT to see the emperor start to realize that maybe he isn’t wearing such wonderful garments after all! Remember, Trump is narcissistic genius that believed the CIA staff gave him the longest standing ovation ever when it was his job to tell them to be seated and he failed to do it!
i wonder whether or not donald actually understood that the laughter was derisive.
He is now, in a word, the world's laughingstock.
Oh puuullleeeessee A couple countries guffawed...
Hardly "the world"...
Remember, this is a REALITY based forum.. :^/
Russ,
Unless there is an unknown medical issue that Kavanaugh suffered from that made him physically incapable of doing the things he is accused of, there is no way for any of those 200 people to claim that they know that he could not have physically assaulted Ford.
""Lieutenant, I am half Vulcan. Vulcans do not speculate. I speak from pure logic. If I let go of a hammer on a planet that has a positive gravity, I need not see it fall to know that it has in fact fallen. Human beings have characteristics just as inanimate objects do. It is impossible for Captain Kirk to act out of panic or malice. It is not his nature."
-Commander Spock, STAR TREK, Court Martial
They didn’t “testify” as their name being on a letter doesn’t satisfy the penalty of perjury requirement.
Any official communication with any Congressional Committee, whether it be written or verbal has the force of law behind it..
If you lie in an official communication to any Congressional Committee, they have the option to hold you in contempt and send you to jail..
Had to most AWESOMEST night last night!!! Got to drive my son's TESLA 3!!!!!!!!
Holy crap it was amazing!!! Got some great pics!!!
In the immortal words of Will Smith from INDEPENDENCE DAY???
"I HAVE GOT TO GET ME ONE OF THESE!!!!"
:D
Rut Roh....
Red-state Democrats refuse to come out against Kavanaugh
Democratic leaders need a unified caucus to put maximum pressure on a handful of holdout Republicans.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/25/red-state-democrats-kavanaugh-841400
Doesn't look good for the Dumbocrats Con Job..
Even some DEMOCRATS are seeing thru it...
And so the goal post moving begins.. :^/
Kavanaugh accuser asks Senate to limit press access for hearing
Christine Blasey Ford’s lawyers have asked senators to limit the press who will be allowed in the room to cover Thursday’s hearing with her and Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and sought to dictate at least some of the outlets.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/25/accuser-senate-limit-press-kavanaugh-hearing/
Obviously the so-called "victim" and her handlers want to control the message and only have friendly media outlets there.. :^/
Grassley better tell her to go pound sand..
As I said yesterday.. It's doubtful she is going to show.. She is going to use one of these irrational demands as an excuse to bail...
When she does that, Kvanaugh is as good as confirmed.. No Red State Dem is going to vote against him and Sen Murkowski and Senator Collins will side with Kavanaugh as well...
The vote is going to be 55-45 in favor of Kavanaugh...
And things will be almost as happy around here as they were in Nov of 2016 and the GOP will be a shoo-in to keep both HOUSE and SENATE in Nov.. :D
JTC,
I said the same thing,
Really!?? You predicted that Trump would be president..
hehehe Assuming you have a forum "type", I bet you were as popular in your forum as I was in here.. :D
I would love to read some of your predictions.. :D
I knew that Trump was going to be President once he won the Primaries.. At that point, I knew that it was an ESTABLISHMENT vs BULL IN A CHINA SHOP ELECTION and there was NO WAY that the ESTABLISHMENT candidate was going to win... :D
Living in a sham-democracy-theocracy sucks the big ball.
And yet, the hysterical NeverTrumpers are clamoring and hysterically demanding President Pence..
If there is any logic in that, please explain it to me... :^/
GOP confidence grows on Kavanaugh
Senate Republicans say that Brett Kavanaugh’s chances of confirmation have improved because of new doubts over allegations of sexual misconduct against the embattled Supreme Court nominee.
That growing confidence was reflected Tuesday by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who told reporters after a meeting of the Senate GOP conference that he will have enough votes to confirm Kavanaugh.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/408424-gop-confidence-grows-on-kavanaugh
So much for the "sources" who claim that the GOP was looking for ways to dump Kavanaugh..
OBVIOUSLY those "sources" are simply engaging in "wishcasting" and don't know reality from their assholes..
I'm just sayin'....
Senate panel schedules Kavanaugh vote for Friday
The move comes after Republicans hire a female attorney to question Kavanaugh's accuser.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/25/white-house-lashes-out-feinstein-838942
Give Dumbocrats credit for getting a small delay... Of course they had to totally expose their utter pathetic depravity to get it..
The voters will remember this sick pathetic attempt in Nov and will vote en masse for the GOP...
Congrats, Dumbocrats.. Ya'all just guaranteed a GOP House and Senate...
Avenatti: I wasn’t scammed
Michael Avenatti on Tuesday lashed out at reports that a client who was preparing to level allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh was a fake and part of a ruse by an outside group targeting Avenatti.
Where's yer witness, scum-sucking lawyer???
Yer 48 hrs are up and you got nothing..
Once again, Democrats look like MORONS for putting their faith in this ambulance chasing piece of filth...
https://i0.wp.com/therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/4chan_avenatti.jpg?w=698&ssl=1
How scum-sucking lawyer was scammed..
BBBWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Couldn't happen to a more deserving scumbag... :D
"Oh johnny, johnny.. Did you back the wrong horse.."
-Dr Peter Venkmen, GHOSTBUSTERS II
:D
4CHAN punks scumbag Porn Lawyer... :D
https://therightscoop.com/4chan-is-claiming-they-burned-michael-avenatti-with-fake-kavanaugh-witness/
Today is going to be a VERY good day... :D
In other news..
Beto O'Rourke's denial he left DUI crash scene challenged by fact-checker
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/25/beto-orourkes-denial-left-dui-crash-scene-challenged-by-fact-checker.html
Beto's a liar..
And I know how much ya'all hate liars..
So I would imagine ya'all will NOT support Beto..
Right?? :D
And so it begins...
Feinstein can’t guarantee Kavanaugh accuser shows, as Ford bristles over role of female attorney
The top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee acknowledged Tuesday she can’t guarantee the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault will show up to testify at a looming hearing, as her attorneys raise concerns about the format.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/25/feinstein-can-t-guarantee-kavanaugh-accuser-shows-as-ford-bristles-over-role-female-attorney.html
DiFi setting the stage for the so-called "victim" to bail... :D
JTC, I promise to limit the 'bawhahahaha's and the I TOLD YOU SOs to just 5 a day.. :D
Rachel Mitchell, prosecutor experienced in sex-crimes cases, to question Kavanaugh and Ford, Grassley announces
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/25/rachel-mitchell-prosecutor-experienced-in-sex-crimes-cases-to-question-kavanaugh-and-ford-grassley-announces.html
I just have to laugh at the Dumbocrats...
They were all set to have a really nice optic of 11 old men questioning a poor helpless female and the mean old GOP pulls the rug out from under them!!
BBWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I can just picture the scene.. Moronic Dumbocrats gleefully planning the political ads based on the optics and then discover that their optic is shit!! :D
Gotta love it, eh? :D
Minnesota paper sues to unseal Keith Ellison's divorce records
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/26/minnesota-paper-sues-to-unseal-keith-ellisons-divorce-records.html
Why aren't Democrats all over this???
Oh, that's right.. It doesn't fit their Party agenda.. :^/
CNN Contributor Caught Fabricating Additional Kavanaugh Accusation
Notorious Playboy White House correspondent and CNN contributor Brian Karem reported Monday that police in Montgomery County, Maryland were investigating another assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, but county officials swiftly denied the claim, further proving that liberals are fabricating assault allegations in an effort to derail Kavanaugh’s confirmation.
Karem made the outrageous claim in The Sentinel Newspapers, which operates local newspaper The Montgomery County Sentinel. “Investigators in Montgomery County confirmed Monday they’re aware of a potential second sexual assault complaint in the county against former Georgetown Prep student and Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh,” Karem wrote. “While investigators weren’t specific and spoke on background, they said they are looking at allegations against Kavanaugh during his senior year in high school after an anonymous witness came forward this weekend.”
However, in the wake of the report’s publication, legitimate journalists investigated Karem’s lead – and found that it was a complete and total fabrication. The Montgomery County Police Department subsequently issued a statement Monday afternoon that they were never contacted “by any alleged victim nor a victim’s attorney to initiate a police report or a criminal investigation regarding Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.”
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/brian-karem-brett-kavanaugh-cnn-fabricating/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=thepoliticalinsider.com&utm_term=69017&utm_content=2293906
What IS it about Dumbocrats?? If Kavanaugh is so bad as they claim, the facts will come out..
Why do Dumbocrats have to make shit up???
Joshua,
I think he knew what prompted the laughter. He was stunned for a few seconds and then he "laughs" as much to say, 'what, you don't believe me!?'
I found that to be such a telling moment.
The Republicans just couldn't help themselves. They had to rig it in favor of their side.
It just makes her underdog status all the more evident. She'll be called 'brave' and 'courageous' and the Republicans will be called 'cowards'.
And that's just the opening optics. Ouch.
@michale,
16 straight posts! CW must've really gotten under your skin. The laughter was louder than the studio audience of most sitcoms, so it's definitely more than a couple. Not sure the exact amount, but I'm sure video is out on it somewhere.
JL
Does anyone actually read "Michale's" rants?
I usually read the first two or three.
The Republicans just couldn't help themselves. They had to rig it in favor of their side.
It just makes her underdog status all the more evident. She'll be called 'brave' and 'courageous' and the Republicans will be called 'cowards'.
That's just spin and you know it..
The GOP has denied Dumbocrats the optics they so desperately wanted and now yer just spinning it into a plus.. :D
You know it.. I know it.. :D
16 straight posts! CW must've really gotten under your skin. The laughter was louder than the studio audience of most sitcoms, so it's definitely more than a couple. Not sure the exact amount, but I'm sure video is out on it somewhere.
When there is, come talk to me..
As to CW getting to me?? :D
Whatever ya have to tell yerself to make it thru your day.. :D
Does anyone actually read "Michale's" rants?
Why does that mean so much to you??
If people can't handle the FACTS, that's on them, not on me... :D
As I had mentioned, Judge Kavanaugh has over 200 supporters who have attested, under penalty of law, to the good character of Judge Kavanaugh for over 40 years... NONE of those have recanted their claims despite the fact-less bullshit to the contrary spewed here in Weigantia..
The so-called "victim" also has a letter signed by a handful of distant relatives, under penalty of bad publicity, that attest to the so-called "victim"'s "good character.. Conspicuously missing from the signatures are the so-called "victim"'s immediate family.. The "victim"'s mother, father and two siblings have NOT signed on to that letter and have NOT supported the so-called "victim"'s claims...
How bad of a cheat and a liar does one have to be to have your own immediate family throw you under the bus???
#sad
Proof positive that the so-called "victim" is lying...
In the so-called "victim"'s "reluctant" (sheeya right) interview with WaPoop, the so-called "victim" claimed that she was really upset when President Trump won the election because Kavanaugh was on the list to be nominated for SCOTUS..
Except Kavanaugh wasn't added to President Trump's list until 2017, a full YEAR later...
Proof positive the so-called "victim" is lying...
The Republicans just couldn't help themselves. They had to rig it in favor of their side.
See, this is exactly why it's IMPOSSIBLE to take anything you people say seriously..
You were slamming the GOP for having 11 old white men question to so-called "victim"..
NOW that the GOP has saw things YOUR way and gave the so-called victim protection from that.
NOW ya'all complain that GOP is being chickenshit and cowards for NOT having 11 old white men question to so-called "victim"...
You guys are ya'all's own worst enemy.... :^/
It's EXACTLY like that "Groundhog Day" episode from that old TV show, 7 DAYS
Frank Parker gets stuck in a time loop... He and Olga are going into this redneck diner when some redneck SO makes a crude comment about Olga.. Parker decks the guy and Olga slams Parker and says, "You know!! I could have taken care of it myself!! I don't need your help for anything!!!"...
In the next time loop, Parker and Olga are approaching the same SO and the same crude remark is directed at Olga.. This time, Parker just sits back and let's Olga handle it.. Olda then slams Parker and says "Are you going to let him get away with that!!!??? What kind of man are you!!!???"
That is EXACTLY how ya'all are...
Not matter what the GOP does, they are in the wrong.. Even if what they are doing is what ya'all CLAIMED you wanted them to do yesterday..
In a TV sci-fi series, a bit of illogic and irrational is always apparent..
In Weigantia, when dealing with Party ideologues, apparently the same dynamic is in play... :^/
Where is the scumbag porn lawyer's new witness???
He said 48 hrs three days ago...
Maybe the scumbag ambulance chaser is still licking his wounds from being punked by 4chan :D
JL,
16 straight posts must have gotten under your skin!! You gave up on trying to equate prolific with being wrong a long time ago.. :D
The laughter was louder than the studio audience of most sitcoms, so it's definitely more than a couple.
Even if that is true, it's countries like China and Russia and Iran and all the countries who are against the US..
I guess it's not surprising that Democrats want to side with those countries against the US...
Giving aid and comfort to America's enemies.
That's been the Democrat Party since I first enlisted back in 1980...
Vulnerable Democrats face Kavanaugh crisis: Vote for decency or smears
Red-state Democrats will soon have a choice to make. But it is a much different one than they faced just a month ago: A "no" vote on Kavanaugh now is not merely bucking the desires of their conservative electorate, but it is a "yes" vote on vile character assassination.
Donnelly, Tester, Heitkamp, and Manchin must now decide and publicly proclaim whether they are for decency, or smears.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/vulnerable-democrats-face-kavanaugh-crisis-vote-for-decency-or-smears
If these Democrats vote against Kavanaugh, they'll be fired...
It's THAT simple...
11 straight posts..
Taking JL's comment as a challenge... Got ta get to 20!!! :D
@m,
i have not given up my views on spamming the forum. although it has no bearing whatsoever on whether you're right or wrong about an issue, i still think it's inconsiderate and a waste of pixels, but perhaps indicates that you've gotten worked up over something.
JL
And now commentary from a site that our own Neil endorses.. :D
U.N. Speech: Can New 'Trump Doctrine' Remake The World?
U.N.: President Trump no doubt didn't get the reaction he would have liked from the United Nations to his speech. The assembled diverse-ocrats seemed to largely ignore the substance of his speech. Too bad. The outlines of his new Trump Doctrine that he unveiled at U.N. headquarters will have a major global impact.
Gone are the days of President Obama's kowtowing to foreign despots and pretending that all nations are the same. They aren't. And Trump, while willing to live and let live, is the first president since Ronald Reagan to tell the U.N. that our country will no longer tolerate the tyrants and dictators whose nations make up much of the U.N.'s general Assembly.
Trump has been tough on the U.N., so it's not surprising that his speech wasn't exactly greeted with politeness. When he began his speech boasting of his administration many undoubted accomplishments, the assembled "diplomats" laughed.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/u-n-speech-trump-doctrine/
He who laughs last, laughs best.. :D
And, in 2025 when President Trump leaves office and the US is the TRUE and ONLY Superpower (in every sense of the word) standing??
Americans will be pointing at those tin-plated dictators with delusions of god-hood and laughing our asses off at them and their third world shitholes.. :D
JL,
although it has no bearing whatsoever on whether you're right or wrong about an issue,
Agreed...
i still think it's inconsiderate and a waste of pixels, but perhaps indicates that you've gotten worked up over something.
And perhaps it doesn't... :D
All it really means is that I am so happy that, once again, facts and reality have proven me right..
And when I am happy, I like to share... :D
Wait til this time tomorrow and all we see on C-SPAN is an empty chair where the so-called "victim" is supposed to be seated...
Then you'll see me really really **REALLY** happy... :D
Yunno, you could always point out when I am right and you agree with me.. I know that happens more than is apparent...
NOTHING takes the wind out of my sails faster than "Yea, Michale.. Yer right.. Sincerely"
I mean, other than a 'thank you' there is simply NO RESPONSE to that!
Sincere agreement is my kryptonite... :D
Democrats in the dark on eve of historic Kavanaugh hearing
Senate Democrats have had no apparent contact with Christine Blasey Ford — and have no idea how she'll hold up.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/26/kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-hearing-democrats-841955
Once again.. Democrats are setting the stage for the so-called "victim"'s no show... :D
Michale-
Sorry, you're going to have to start over. :D
Oh crap...
OK....
==========================
Had to most AWESOMEST night last night!!! Got to drive my son's TESLA 3!!!!!!!!
Holy crap it was amazing!!! Got some great pics!!!
In the immortal words of Will Smith from INDEPENDENCE DAY???
"I HAVE GOT TO GET ME ONE OF THESE!!!!"
:D
Everyone on "both" sides should remember that he who laughs last laughs alone.
Laughing alone at the top of the mountain???
"Yea.. I can live with that.."
-Keannu Reeves, THE REPLACEMENTS
:D
Does anyone actually read "Michale's" rants?
No.
Just skip his comments and don't respond. If he wants to participate he'll limit himself to one or two points where he actually uses his brain (instead of cutting and pasting what he is told to think on RWNJ sites) and also link to reliable sources (i.e. not RWNJ sites). Otherwise he is just spamming the board.
[43] you meant to say; And, in 2021 when ex-President Trump leaves for jail and if the US is still standing, Biden will attempt to rebuild??
No need to thank me for fixing your post, it's a service I offer for free.
:D
ll&p
What a buffoon. The traitor is so stupid he doesn't realize that beyond his redneck Nuremberg rallies nobody believes his BS.
[28] "Does anyone actually read "Michale's" rants?"
My cat takes swipes at them as they wizz up the scrolling screen... does that count?
Hehe
LL&P
[43] Michale
"And, in 2025 when President Trump leaves office and the US is the TRUE and ONLY Superpower (in every sense of the word) standing??"
NEWS FLASH: We ALREADY ARE, and HAVE BEEN since the Berlin Wall fell in 1989. Trump, thankfully, has had no impact on that ONE WAY OR THE OTHER SO FAR. At least not enough to do serious lasting damage, as the world just waits him out.
Now, long term, the USA cannot hold that position forever. But that day is not here yet.
[28] JoeG
"Does anyone actually read "Michale's" rants?"
Even I have gotten to the point where I skim over most of it. Despite Michale's protests to the contrary, it's obvious a lot of it is just whistling in the dark.
I agree with nypoet22 that the worse things actually go in reality for Michale's world view, the more he posts to try to counter that narrative, whether it makes any sense or not.
No.
Liar.. :D You read everyone of my comments to see if I am exposing any buttons for you to push.. :D
And once again, ya'all do yer damndest to make things about me personally..
I get it.. I really do..
Ya'all can't address the FACTS so you have to attack the messenger..
I understand and forgive ya'all.. :D
"You can't win. I've got GOD on my side!!"
-Leland Gant, NEEDFUL THINGS
:D
I agree with nypoet22 that the worse things actually go in reality for Michale's world view, the more he posts to try to counter that narrative, whether it makes any sense or not.
Spot on - the U.N. embarrassment was a "5 screen page" humiliation for Michale. One of his larger shows of angst.
It reminds me of the famous "Dorothy Martin" cult that became a classic example of the nature of belief. Great story if you don't already know it. Michale is suffering from all the symptoms the cultists did when they couldn't handle the fact they had been conned.
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/421122/
CW: He is now, in a word, the world's laughingstock.
As so shall he remain ever thus. History will not be kind to the traitor Benedict Donald.
Nice column, CW.
Another link to the Wiki of the book written about Dorothy Martin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails
[37] - [Avenatti] said 48 hrs three days ago...
No, today is Avenatii Eve. He updated "48 hrs" with Maddow on Monday night. That was re-affirmed by Tweet as "36 hrs" yesterday noon, which is midnight tonight.
Now, it's possible that he'll hold it until after the vote out of Judiciary on Friday. Now they've set the hearing up as a sham, there's no reason to detract from that. That timing would also inflict maximum damage on the Republicans IF he has something highly credible on it's face. Kav would have then been voted out, and so he'd go down in a full Senate vote. Mitch promised there will be an on the record vote, "up or down."
michale, don't scoff at that IF; you don't have any more idea what Avenatii has than I do; this is what I think he'd do under that scenario.
Spot on - the U.N. embarrassment was a "5 screen page" humiliation for Michale. One of his larger shows of angst.
I want to thank ya'all for giving me rent-free space in yer heads. :D
michale, don't scoff at that IF; you don't have any more idea what Avenatii has than I do; this is what I think he'd do under that scenario.
I disagree.. As Commander Spock has so eloquently pointed out, human beings have certain characteristics that, with observation, allows a LOGICAL and RATIONAL person to predict certain behaviors..
Avantii has proven himself to be nothing but an ambulance scum-sucking weasel...
I would lay the odds of him actually having a legit witness as 10-2 against...
You saw how he got punked by 4Chan....
I am betting that we won't HEAR a peep out of the scumbag for quite a while..
He's too busy licking his wounds..
you don't have any more idea what Avenatii has than I do; this is what I think he'd do under that scenario.
I mean, if that were true, if we can't possibly know what a person will or will not do under any given circumstances, then those who keep predicting what President Trump will or will not do are totally full of kaa-kaa..
It's only logical...
Russ
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Trump was stunned that they laughed at him, because he has so thoroughly surrounded himself with sycophants who tell him how great his BigMac farts smell and paid fans to cheer every word salad that he spews during his rallies that having people respond honestly (negatively) to one of his speeches is not something he recognizes.
Euwwwwwwww… I know, right... and his Diet Coke farts too! Too bad those Diet Cokes aren't working on the billowing blubber. He literally cannot read without having to pant loudly through his orange blowhole between sentences.
And can't any of the spineless sycophants speak up and tell this moron how ridiculous he looks? I wonder what he does every morning... take a look in the mirror and say "not orange enough, more orange"!
He looks and sounds like a f'n clown. Is it any wonder they're laughing!?
He looks and sounds like a f'n clown.
And yet, he has been a successful businessman for DECADES, as acknowledged by DEMOCRATS...
And yet, he bested 19 of the most intelligent, most experienced, most well funded political operatives the GOP had to offer. Granted that doesn't say very much..
And yet, he DECIMATED the biggest, meanest, most experience and richest political juggernauts in the history of politics AND juggernauts...
So, on the one hand, we have a bigoted partisan OPINION..
And on the other hand, we have FACTS that totally destroy the credibility of that bigoted partisan OPINION...
I am going to go with the FACTS.. :D
[66]
Kick, we'll get nowhere if you keep holding back... Tell us how you really feel about Donny Dingleberry.
lol
LL&P
JoeG,
Does anyone actually read "Michale's" rants?</I
Why do you ask?
Why do you ask?
It's a typical bully move..
A coward moves into a group, observes the dynamic, finds the guy that everyone picks on and then joins in the bullying.. :D
Basically, it's a coward move of a person who is afraid to go against the flow.. So they toe the majority line and it makes them feel like a big person...
Whoa! Kavanaugh Attorney: Lawyers for Christine Ford Have Not Turned Over Results of Lie Detector Test or Therapist’s Notes (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/whoa-kavanaugh-attorney-lawyers-for-christine-ford-have-not-turned-over-results-of-lie-detector-test-or-therapists-notes-video/
You guys claim it's a FACT that the so-called "victim" took and passed a lie-detector test..
Prove it..
You can't because there are NO FACTS to support the so-called "victim"'s claim..
There is only her word and, as I have proven beyond any doubt, the so-called "victim" is a liar...
The so-called "victim" also claimed she revealed the so-called "attack" to a couple's therapist in 2012..
PROVE IT..
Turn over the notes of the alleged sessions...
What is this so-called "victim" hiding???
"Without sperm, you must confirm"
-Anonymous COMMENTS poster..
:D
Michale, You may be wrong about him. He's new, after all.
Michale, You may be wrong about him. He's new, after all.
I may be... But even JEEPs need to come to the forum with facts..
Based on available facts, my position stands.
If he wants to offer more facts that will alter my perception, I will be HAPPY to entertain any new information..
But, as I see it now.. He is just a immature coward who wants to fit in with the soshes and does so by being as mean and as bigoted as they are...
And the first step in that process is identifying the one person everyone picks on...
I could be wrong and will happily change my opinion if the facts warrant it..
I could be wrong and will happily change my opinion if the facts warrant it.
What are you talking about?
neilm
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Just skip his comments and don't respond. If he wants to participate he'll limit himself to one or two points where he actually uses his brain (instead of cutting and pasting what he is told to think on RWNJ sites) and also link to reliable sources (i.e. not RWNJ sites). Otherwise he is just spamming the board.
Great post, Neil... spot on!
In addition to being "inconsiderate," spamming the board continually and posting the same repetitive drivel means never having to say you're thinking. :)
Oh puuullleeeessee A couple countries guffawed...
One, in particular, smiled.
Avenatti strikes again.
Julie Swetnick :)
Eight big problems for Christine Blasey Ford’s story
https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/eight-big-problems-for-christine-blasey-fords-story/
The so-called "victim" is going to be a no-show...
New Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick details parties where girls allegedly were drugged and raped
The lawyer Michael Avenatti on Wednesday identified another accuser of Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh, Washington resident Julie Swetnick.
Swetnick, in an affidavit posted online by Avenatti, claims that Kavanaugh, as a high school student in the early 1980s, with others spiked the drinks of girls at house parties with grain alcohol and/or drugs to "cause girls to lose inhibitions and their ability to say 'No.' "
Swetnick said these efforts by Kavanaugh and his buddy Mark Judge were done so the girls "could then be 'gang raped' in a side room or bedroom by a 'train' of numerous boys."
BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"gang raped"... What about the DC torture chambers and the satanic rites?? :D
My gods, the desperation of the Democrats knows no depth...
New Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick details parties where girls allegedly were drugged and raped
The lawyer Michael Avenatti on Wednesday identified another accuser of Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh, Washington resident Julie Swetnick.
Swetnick, in an affidavit posted online by Avenatti, claims that Kavanaugh, as a high school student in the early 1980s, with others spiked the drinks of girls at house parties with grain alcohol and/or drugs to "cause girls to lose inhibitions and their ability to say 'No.' "
Swetnick said these efforts by Kavanaugh and his buddy Mark Judge were done so the girls "could then be 'gang raped' in a side room or bedroom by a 'train' of numerous boys."
BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"gang raped"... What about the DC torture chambers and the satanic rites?? :D
My gods, the desperation of the Democrats knows no depth...
Michale's being bullied? ok
Are we sure that's happening? I need to see some facts...
Michale… If you need a lawyer, hop in your ambulance and go slowly, one will catch you.
Avanatti will be free next week, he's got a couple of Judge's to torpedo first.
:D
LL&P
A white girl who claims she is black and is single, but has 10 children..
Yea, the motivation is EASY to see.. :D
Julie Swetnick is 55 years old and was born on 12/30/1962. Currently, she lives in Bethesda, MD; and previously lived in Rockville, MD. Sometimes Julie goes by various nicknames including Julie Swetwick and Julie Swatnick. She currently works as an Owner at Interchange corp. Her ethnicity is African American, whose political affiliation is currently a registered Other; and religious views are listed as Agnostic. Julie is now single, and also has 10 children. Other family members and associates include Elaine Swetnick and Martin Swetnick. She has a reported annual income of $250k+ and a current net worth value of greater than $1m.
While I have to admit I am shocked that the scumbag porn lawyer actually came out with a witness, the calibre of the witness is what I would have expected..
JTC,
Michale's being bullied? ok
I appreciate your concern.. But I give tons better than I get so I am perfectly happy.. :D
I have been handling bullies like this since they decided to invade Weigantia...
Many have left when the couldn't handle the reprisals anymore.. :D
James T Canuck
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Kick, we'll get nowhere if you keep holding back... Tell us how you really feel about Donny Dingleberry.
Maybe next time. ;)
[83]
"While I have to admit I am shocked that the scumbag porn lawyer actually came out with a witness, the instant attacking of the witness, by Michale, is what I would have expected.."
No charge.
LL&P
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/09/26/105472453-1537973678647julie.530x298.jpg?v=1537975125
That is a black woman... :^/
Only a Democrat would be so utterly stoopid..
Michale,
The so-called "victim" is going to be a no-show...
You're probably wrong about that.
Do you know what the problem is, Michale? And it wasn't always like this.
I can remember some robust and cogent debates we have had early on where intelligent points were made on both sides and, sometimes, minds changed, middle ground was found, and we both learned something.
The problem, in a nutshell, is the fact that I can safely assume that you would be on the side of the victim if her allegations were made against a Democrat.
I understand that you want to be the dissenting voice here but you often take it too far. Rather than stimulate a healthy debate and discussion, as Chris does with his excellent pieces, you always take the dissention too far as to obliterate the facts.
I'd like to share a little advice that I have learned over the years … what 50 comments can say can often be said better in one.
Do you remember my decidedly non-brief contributions? Heh. Well, I am a Biden fan, you know.
[84] No problem, anytime... My concern was genuine.
We all know you handle yourself, with aplomb, I'll be bound.
:D
LL&P
the instant attacking of the witness, by Michale, is what I would have expected.."
Right off the bat, we know she is a liar...
We all know you handle yourself, with aplomb, I'll be bound.
See! Common ground.. A wonderful thing..
So, honestly.. Do you REALLY believe the gang-rape thing??
Something this Sweathog claims was common knowledge yet NOT A SINGLE IOTA OF A HINT OF A FACT appeared in ANY of the six FBI Investigations???
Seriously!!???
Liz,
Do you know what the problem is, Michale? And it wasn't always like this.
Yes, I know.. During the Bush years, things were acrimonious, but not deranged..
"I grieve with thee"
-T'Pau
The problem, in a nutshell, is the fact that I can safely assume that you would be on the side of the victim if her allegations were made against a Democrat.
Nope. I would be the same.. NO FACTS = NO LEGITIMATE ACCUSATION
I'd like to share a little advice that I have learned over the years … what 50 comments can say can often be said better in one.
That is not logical..
50 Comments mean 50 different pieces of information..
I couldn't comment on this latest liar this morning because I didn't know about her this morning..
Tbh, man...I just don't know. Not enough info to go on yet.
LL&P
Michale
83
While I have to admit I am shocked that the scumbag porn lawyer actually came out with a witness, the calibre of the witness is what I would have expected..
You're disparaging her based on a mylife link?
https://www.mylife.com/julie-swetnick/e810756944292
Michale,
I would suggest then, that you refrain from commenting until you have all the information and then you can just put it all one comment. Remember, there's no word limit here. :)
See how easy that is!
Tbh, man...I just don't know. Not enough info to go on yet.
I mean, just on the gang rape charge alone...
Is that believable given how many background checks and FBI investigations and PUBLIC activities Judge Kavanaugh has gone thru..
He's a BASKETBALL COACH for a GIRLS BASKETBALL TEAM!!! In the SAME EXACT AREA where his alleged transgressions took place..
Take politics out of it and look at things logically..
Is Kavanaugh being a serial gang-raper in line with the FACTS and reality???
I would suggest then, that you refrain from commenting until you have all the information and then you can just put it all one comment. Remember, there's no word limit here. :)
See how easy that is!
Fair enough... If everyone else does that, then I'll be HAPPY to do so as well.. :D
But, ya gotta admit.. Things would be quiet around here..
A little too quiet..
"Hay!! It's Raph.."
"Yea, a little TOO Raph"
-TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES
:D
You're disparaging her based on a mylife link?
The Age and Bday lines up... The employment lines up..
How many Julie Swetnicks do you think there are in Bethesda with the same b-day, same age and same employment??
But hay, I could be wrong.. I will be happy to concede and apologize to Swetnick when the FACTS show I am..
But, ya gotta admit.. Things would be quiet around here..
Quieter, perhaps. But, definitely and infinitely more enlightening ...
We'll see how long the MyLife page stays up.. If it's removed within a couple hours, we'll know for sure.. :D
Basically this latest so-called "victim" is another Rachel Dolenz... A liar from the word GO...
I wonder how long scum-sucking porn lawyer had to coach this Dolenz wanna be...
Michale
98
The Age and Bday lines up... The employment lines up..
How many Julie Swetnicks do you think there are in Bethesda with the same b-day, same age and same employment??
But hay, I could be wrong.. I will be happy to concede and apologize to Swetnick when the FACTS show I am..
I'm not talking about matching up birthdays or anything like that. I'm talking about immediately disparaging someone you don't know based on the information contained in a mylife page... assuming it is correct.
What does her ethnicity have to do with anything?
What does the number of children have to do with anything?
What is this so-called "victim" hiding?
Nothing, but the Republicans are. She asked for an FBI investigation and was denied by the Republicans.
And the Republicans appear to have simply ignored Democratic requests for thousands of documents related to Kavanaugh's time at the white house.
So what are the Republicants trying to hide from us?
The truth. The WHOLE truth.
And we won't hear in committee from Kav's other accusers either.
What are Republicants hiding? Much too much. The whole truth.
What does her ethnicity have to do with anything?
The fact she is LYING about her ethnicity has EVERYTHING to do with it..
Nothing, but the Republicans are. She asked for an FBI investigation and was denied by the Republicans.
If an FBI investigation was so all fired important, why wasn't one asked for back in July..
You can't answer that question because the ONLY answer decimates ANY argument you can make..
What are Republicants hiding? Much too much. The whole truth.
Yea, that's been ya'all's claims since even BEFORE Kavanaugh was named..
Face the reality, Balthy.. Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed... Dumbocrats are going to pay for their pathetic character assassination at the polls in Nov..
Who keeps daily calendars for thirty plus years?
Michale,
My best guess is that Kavanaugh will be voted down.
LB,
Once again, I appeal to your calm and objective logic..
Does the idea of Kavanaugh being a serial gang-raper make ANY sense considering all the FBI investigations, all the background checks, all of the public information known about Judge Kavanaugh???
Could a secret of such magnitude evade each and every check and investigation that Judge Kavanaugh has endured??
I mean, yea.. It's possible if these transgressions were in BumFuq, WA and Kavanaugh moved to DC... That's DOESN'T stretch the bands of credulity..
But we're talking IN THE EXACT SAME AREA...
All those HUNDREDS of kids that were at these parties when these "gang rapes" occurred have grown and likely have children...
Is it feasible that **ALL** of them moved away and not a SINGLE one, except the so-called "victim" and Judge Kavanaugh, moved away???
It's entirely likely that some kids who attended these parties have kids of their own. Maybe even a daughter who is on Judge Kavanaugh's BBall team...
Ignore politics and just comment on the rational...
Does Judge Kavanaugh being a serial raper fit in ANY way, shape or form???
Who keeps daily calendars for thirty plus years?
Men who have their future all planned out...
My best guess is that Kavanaugh will be voted down.
Put it this way..
If this so-called "victim" shows up and testifies and is credible, you MAY be correct..
But I don't think she will...
Is Kavanaugh being a serial gang-raper in line with the FACTS and reality?
Were teenage Brett and his alcoholic sidekick capable of 'spiking' the punch at parties? No less than Biff Tannan and his friends were, I suppose.
The theory, of course, was that the drunk girls were easier to conquer, and too confused afterward to complain, ironically now the very argument that Kav's GOP defenders are using against the now-grown victims.
So no, this isn't beyond belief at all.
Kick,
I am beginning to think you are right. That it's not the same Julie Swetnick listed in the MyLife page as the new so-called "victim"...
I would have thought the media would have been all over it by now, if they were the same..
On the other hand, Dems control the media, so they might be trying to bury the story until they can get the MyLife page cancelled..
So, you might be right and I might be wrong.. Still waiting for facts to confirm..
Were teenage Brett and his alcoholic sidekick capable of 'spiking' the punch at parties?
That's not the question I asked..
The fact that you deflect and CAN'T answer the question I ask proves the utter ridiculousness of your position..
Considering that the man that was once America's most beloved comedian is now doing 3-10 for doing essentially the same thing, it's a bit disingenuous to say that pasty-face wasn't capable of that behavior.
I'm drifting towards the hypothesis that Republicans, Trump, and The Old Hands included, are beginning to think Kavanaugh is a liability and they are just going thru the motions in order to placate the base...and also to weaponize a rejection as a campaign wedge issue going forward for God only knows how long (think abortion).
Senate confirmation of K. is not going to end press interest in his past, and the shoes are dropping pretty fast and furious. K. himself says way too much in press interviews (so much for his stint at Yale Law) and is already being called out for inconsistencies, vagueries and what may turn out to be strains on his credibility (drinking and virginity) which ultimate leave a trail of outright lies.
So, assume K. gets confirmed. The press keeps digging. More and more witnesses come forward. They get lawyers who fight with both press and the legal system. Supreme Court Justices serve for good behavior. They can be impeached, and I suspect they can be called prosecuted for illegalities not covered by statutes of limitation. Suddenly, the odds of K. serving 40 years don't seem so good.
Kavanugh is like a hot spot in a coal bunker. He could smolder for months or even in years until he suddenly ignites and torches all supporters in close proximity. That's a big downside. Better to make the confirmation process a valiant lost cause which can be waved in the face of Red voters for decades to come.
It's a theory, but I won't be surprised if the confirmation process isn't further delayed by the Leadership and ultimately terminated after the majority gets it cover narrative in place.
Michale
The fact she is LYING about her ethnicity has EVERYTHING to do with it..
You've decided that based on a mylife page... seriously?
So what if your mylife page said you were a Republican or Tea Party Supporter. Should we call you a liar? Have you checked it and paid somebody to fix their collected information?
Who else here doesn't understand that a mylife page is information that a company posts about a person that may or may not be correct information? If you want to correct information someone else posts about you, you are required to pay the "mylife people" in order to fix the incorrect information they posted about you.
Why anyone would disparage someone based on information on a mylife page that may or may not be correct is mystifying to me. :)
Considering that the man that was once America's most beloved comedian is now doing 3-10 for doing essentially the same thing, it's a bit disingenuous to say that pasty-face wasn't capable of that behavior.
How many FBI Investigations and background checks did Bill Cosby go thru??
Yer desperate so yer comparing alligators and eskimos...
Who else here doesn't understand that a mylife page is information that a company posts about a person that may or may not be correct information? If you want to correct information someone else posts about you, you are required to pay the "mylife people" in order to fix the incorrect information they posted about you.
Yea.. A misspelling of the name or a typo on a birth year... Yea, THAT makes sense..
But a mistake on RACE!!!???
Shirley, you jest...
Whatever you think about Avenatti, he pretty much delivers. Unlike, say, Devin Nunes and the rest of the Keystone Repubs who use the media to gin up excitement about some new conspiracy theory as embodied in some stupid document that then falls completely flat.
As I said yesterday in previous thread, the thing about this scandal is that it involves a wide group of people. Kavanaugh's claims to alterboy-hood status throughout HS and College years invite debunking not by one or two but by many people. And the debunkings are happening.
At minimum Kavanaugh's claims to never drinking appear laughably incredible. He's been described as a mean drunk by multiple people. That's the minimum lie he's told. Debunk that and the claims of other bad behaviors become much shakier.
We have two giant problems for Kavanaugh: what he's lying about, and the fact that he's lying at all. He's lying NOW about stuff he did then. He's lying NOW.
That's not the question I asked..
You asked [96]:
Is Kavanaugh being a serial gang-raper in line with the FACTS and reality?
And my answer was: yes, it very well could be.
The accusation should be investigated by the FBI, at the very least, right?
107,110,113,118,119
Yup!
And my answer was: yes, it very well could be.
Explain how exactly that could have happened. A half dozen FBI investigations.. A dozen background checks.. ALL in the exact same area where he was a serial gang-rapist that all the kids at these parties knew..
And yet, not even a WHIFF OF AN IOTA OF A SMIDGEN OF A FACT of this EVER came out??
Explain how that could have happened..
The accusation should be investigated by the FBI, at the very least, right?
IF there are ANY facts to support it..
Why didn't Dumbocrats push for an investigation 3 months ago?? You continue to ignore that question because it totally decimates your argument..
Michale
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Yea.. A misspelling of the name or a typo on a birth year... Yea, THAT makes sense..
But a mistake on RACE!!!???
Shirley, you jest...
So how did she lie about her race? It's a mylife page that may be incorrect that she may know nothing about, and you're calling her a liar based on that.
Have you purchased your mylife page and corrected it? It says you're a Tea Party Supporter.
New Kavanaugh Accuser Julie Swetnick Says She Was Partying While Knowing Girls Were Being Gang Raped
Did she leave the party???
Did she notify the police??
No, she not only continued to party and have fun, she even continued to GO to those parties and have fun..
Yea... *THAT* is credible.. :^/
Leave it to a scum sucking porn lawyer to come up with something so utterly and completely ludicrous...
In his prepared testimony for Thursday’s Senate hearing, Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh says he was ‘not perfect’ in high school and drank beer with friends but strongly denies having committed sexual assault.
“In retrospect, I said and did things in high school that make me cringe now,” he says, adding that “sometimes I had too many” when he drank beer.
But Kavanaugh says what he has been accused of by Christine Blasey Ford is altogether different.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kavanaugh-nomination-trump-calls-nominee-an-absolute-gem-as-tensions-swirl-over-planned-hearing/2018/09/26/df224aea-c190-11e8-97a5-ab1e46bb3bc7_story.html?utm_term=.e741911c8bed
So the back-pedaling and rewriting of claims he made on MONDAY begins.
This guy is being considered for the SUPREME COURT, the last stop. When decisions are made on the court there's no further appeal. Kavanaugh wants to be able to edit his statements indefinitely while having people-who-aren't-morons believe he has the character and judgement for SCOTUS.
So how did she lie about her race? It's a mylife page that may be incorrect that she may know nothing about, and you're calling her a liar based on that.
Asssuming it's her MyLife page, it's HER MyLife Page..
If it says she is black on her FaceBook page, who else would put that on there?? FaceBook???
Have you purchased your mylife page and corrected it? It says you're a Tea Party Supporter.
Link to support your claim???
Even if you COULD find a link to substantiate the bullshit claim, so??
It's possible that I could have been a Tea Party supporter at one time but then changed my mind..
It's NOT possible that this liar could be white and then change her mind and become black... :D
This guy is being considered for the SUPREME COURT, the last stop. When decisions are made on the court there's no further appeal. Kavanaugh wants to be able to edit his statements indefinitely while having people-who-aren't-morons believe he has the character and judgement for SCOTUS.
OH MY GODS!!!!
THE MAN ADMITS TO HAVING A BEER AND MAYBE MORE THAN ONE!!!!!!!!
OH MY GODS, LETS JUST LINE 'IM UP AGAINST A WALL AND SHOOT HIM!!!!
Once again..
Take a step outside yerselves...
View things objectively...
Then laugh with me.. :D
Elizabeth said she infrequently saw Brett Kavanaugh during this time – often at house parties. “He was cute. He was always nice,” she said. One night she ran across an apparently inebriated Brett Kavanaugh and things went differently then. Previously, he had always been nice to her. “ But not that night. He was drunk. He was obnoxious and crude. I had a friend with me and we left. His football buddies were laughing at us. Maybe they were laughing at him, but I didn’t take it that way and they didn’t do anything to keep him from being a jerk.”
From that point on Elizabeth said she steered clear of Kavanaugh and didn’t see any more sexually explicit behavior because, “I didn’t want to be around those guys.” She was not present at the party described by Ford – or doesn’t believe she was. She also said she never saw Kavanaugh assault anyone.
But, from her experience, she said she has no problem believing Dr. Ford’s allegations and said Ford should be heard without politics being involved. “I don’t think that’s possible today. I’m afraid for my daughter. How do we make this less politicized? People are criticizing her for coming forward, but she moved to California. He wasn’t in her life. Now he’s everywhere and could be part of the Supreme Court. It was just high school, but that kind of trauma lasts and no one should be judged for coming forward as she did. It took great courage. Maybe he genuinely doesn’t remember what happened because he blacked out. He deserves to be heard too. He shouldn’t be convicted without being heard either.”
Elizabeth says she knows all too well about the resulting trauma inflicted by a sexually aggressive boy. It happened to her the following year with a boy from a Catholic high school. “They’re all the same. Privileged, spoiled, powerful and unaccountable. They can get away with anything.”
https://mont.thesentinel.com/2018/09/26/bethesda-resident-describes-culture-of-privilege-leading-to-sexual-assault/
Mr. Choirboy was surrounded by a lot of people at this time. I suspect every student and everyone who knows them from that era are searching their memories and more will weigh in.
Hay Paula,
Still waiting for you to provide ANY facts to support your bullshit claim that Kavanaugh supporters have recanted their support..
Any facts at all??
Of course not... :^/
Mr. Choirboy was surrounded by a lot of people at this time. I suspect every student and everyone who knows them from that era are searching their memories and more will weigh in.
And ya **STILL** have absolutely NO FACTS to support the claims..
NOT A SINGLE FACT AT ALL...
#sad
Anonymous
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SmartLoyalHonest
Anonymous
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SmartHonestHumbleGenerousFunKindI Would Be Friends
Apparently there are people out there who DO think that that is THE Julie Stetnik's MyLife page...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2018/09/25/ea5e50d4-c0eb-11e8-9005-5104e9616c21_story.html?utm_term=.a9c2b59c23cd
Headline: Kavanaugh’s ‘choir boy’ image on Fox interview rankles former Yale classmates
Liz Swisher, who described herself as a friend of Kavanaugh in college, said she was shocked that — in an interview focused largely on his high school years and allegations of sexual misconduct — he strongly denied drinking to the point of blacking out.
“Brett was a sloppy drunk, and I know because I drank with him. I watched him drink more than a lot of people. He’d end up slurring his words, stumbling,” said Swisher, a Democrat and chief of the gynecologic oncology division at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “There’s no medical way I can say that he was blacked out. .?.?. But it’s not credible for him to say that he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess.”
Lynne Brookes, who like Swisher was a college roommate of one of the two women now accusing Kavanaugh of misconduct, said the nominee’s comments on Fox did not match the classmate she remembered.
“He’s trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy,” said Brookes, a Republican and former pharmaceutical executive who recalled an encounter with a drunken Kavanaugh at a fraternity event. “You can’t lie your way onto the Supreme Court, and with that statement out, he’s gone too far. It’s about the integrity of that institution.”
Michale
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And yet, not even a WHIFF OF AN IOTA OF A SMIDGEN OF A FACT of this EVER came out??
Only if you ignore Mark Judge's books where he describes exactly this behavior.
Explain how that could have happened..
People are afraid to come forward with these type issues. When one finally breaks their silence, multiple others will usually follow.
IF there are ANY facts to support it..
Mark Judge's books about his high school years and blackout drinking. Mark Judge's ex-girlfriend Elizabeth Rasor who said he told her about an incident in which he and other boys took turns having sex with a drunk woman. “I can’t stand by and watch him lie,” Rasor was quoted as saying. The yearbook where they brag about FFFFFFFourth of July. Quite a lot of evidence actually.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4895867-Grassley-Letter-07-24-2018.html
Women who requested in July to be heard. See above. You tell us why they were ignored in July and we'll all know. :)
Michale
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Link to support your claim???
I will be happy to post your mylife page with your permission. It says your a "Tea Party Supporter."
Michale
125
Asssuming it's her MyLife page, it's HER MyLife Page..
Did you read what I wrote earlier? Most people don't create a mylife page. The "mylife people" do it for them. They gather information from the web that they find about you and make it up for you. If someone else is creating a page on your behalf, it could be completely wrong, and you're calling her a liar based on a page someone else created on her behalf that she may or may not know anything about. Understand?
If it says she is black on her FaceBook page, who else would put that on there?? FaceBook???
Facebook doesn't manufacture pages about people by mining Internet sites and then making them pay to correct the bogus information. Get it now?
Explain how exactly that could have happened.
Oh, that's easy. Privilege has its privileges.
His father was a high-powered lobbyist. His mother was a judge. He was a jock. He attended the prestigious Georgetown Prep.
Lotsa layers of protection, there.
Once he got into college, he joined the Delta Kappa Epsilon Fraternity, the "DKEs", a frat known for hard partying and misogyny. During Judge Kavanaugh’s time there some of his fraternity brothers paraded around campus displaying women’s underwear they had filched, drawing some public criticism, but no sanction. Privilege has its privileges.
It turns out that it was Debbie Ramirez's classmates, not Ramirez herself, who brought the Yale incident to the press. She'd long ago sublimated the assault as another frat boy prank - her fault, she thought, for hanging out with an unsavory crowd.
For more about how privilege protected Kavanaugh at Yale (and elsewhere), see this article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/25/us/politics/deborah-ramirez-brett-kavanaugh-allegations.html
Only if you ignore Mark Judge's books where he describes exactly this behavior.
So, guilt by association??
But apparently, only with people with a -R after their name..
Did you read what I wrote earlier? Most people don't create a mylife page. The "mylife people" do it for them. They gather information from the web that they find about you and make it up for you. If someone else is creating a page on your behalf, it could be completely wrong, and you're calling her a liar based on a page someone else created on her behalf that she may or may not know anything about. Understand?
Yea, I understand you have NO FACTS to support your claims..
Her social media page says she is black..
She is obviously not black..
Ergo, she is a liar..
His father was a high-powered lobbyist. His mother was a judge. He was a jock. He attended the prestigious Georgetown Prep.
Lotsa layers of protection, there.
Yea?? And THAT would have protected him from near PUBLIC knowledge of a history of gang rapes.. :^/
Once again. Take a step outside yourself.. ignore your Party slaver..
See how utterly ridiculous you sound..
Rinse and repeat...
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Did she leave the party???
Did she notify the police??
No, she not only continued to party and have fun, she even continued to GO to those parties and have fun..
Yea... *THAT* is credible.. :^/
Your boy was at the same parties having fun and illegally drinking underage. Did he leave the party? Did he notify the police? Really good questions.
Got any proof of anything you're saying? Nope! :)
Leave it to a scum sucking porn lawyer to come up with something so utterly and completely ludicrous...
You just called somebody you don't know a liar based on a mylife page that she may know nothing about. Does that make you a scum sucker too?
Kick,
The ONLY thing you have a leg to stand on is that it might not be THE Julie Swetnick's social media page..
If it IS, she is a liar...
If it isn't, then the jury is still out..
This will all be over on Friday.. If the so-called "victim" bails on her appearance, as it appears ovious that she will, then Kavanaugh will be sent to the full Senate and Dumbocrats will have lost..
AGAIN...
Your boy was at the same parties having fun and illegally drinking underage.
Yea?? Any facts that prove this??
No?? Then your questions are irrelevant..
This liar ADMITS to being at those parties, underage drinking and having fun while she KNEW girls were getting gang raped...
And she didn't do a SINGLE thing for over 30 years to stop it..
Yea.. THAT is credible :^/
You just called somebody you don't know a liar based on a mylife page that she may know nothing about.
Do you have ANY facts to support your claim she knows nothing about it??
No you do not..
:D You lose :D
Interesting. MyLife lists me, but only under a mis-spelling of my name.
The central fact is that credible allegations have been made and Republicans are refusing to have them investigated by neutral third parties like the FBI. All their gassing about Avenatti or "why didn't the women..." are just attempts to deflect away from the fact that they aren't willing to put Kavanaugh to the test. They think he's as guilty as the women are claiming and they know they'll look even worse if it's proven not only that Kav's a liar and sexual predator, but that they knew it tried to cover it up.
I'd advise against putting your own name into MyLife - it will alert them that you are a potential customer and they may "update" your page with some "facts" and then make you pay for an account to correct them.
It looks like a scam to me.
Kavanaugh is more useful to Republicans as a Bork than a Thomas.
Interesting. MyLife lists me, but only under a mis-spelling of my name.
How does it list your race??? Martian??? :^/
IF it is HER MyLife page, then it's HER MyLife Page.. If it lists that she is black and has 10 kids, then there is absolutely NO REASON to believe that it's not factually accurate..
Unless, one is consumed by Party slavery and wants to spin it..
My question is, why does it matter to ya'all if she DOES list herself as black??? Don't ya'all think it's HER choice???
Michale
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So, guilt by association??
But apparently, only with people with a -R after their name..
Repeating this ridiculous drivel over and over and labeling people you don't know means never having to say you don't mind appearing obtuse and ignorant.
Yea, I understand you have NO FACTS to support your claims..
Her social media page says she is black..
She is obviously not black..
Ergo, she is a liar..
Then you're a liar too Mr. "Tea Party Supporter." You also get the lowest rating there is... one star. So you disparaged her and she gets a 3.4. I guess by your own criteria, you're worse than you described her. Okay. :)
My question is, why does it matter to ya'all if she DOES list herself as black??? Don't ya'all think it's HER choice???
Or, are you agreeing with me that, if she DID put that up and she DOES say she is a black person, she is a liar.. :D
[64] - Commander Spock has so eloquently pointed out, human beings have certain characteristics that, with observation, allows a LOGICAL and RATIONAL person to predict certain behaviors..
Can't argue with that. That's the basis of "know your enemy," and I'm afraid you forget that dictate when you spend too much time believing right-wing bubbles' characterization of someone, rather than report on that person's factual threat.
To review who Avenatti is. His mentor was a constitutional law witness against Clinton in the impeachment trial. The civil court attack on Trump/Cohen through Stormy Daniels has a direct through-line to Cohen's guilty pleas on campaign finance fraud conspiracy with the President, followed by cooperation. He may yet get to depose Trump in a civil action.
In short, he's a civilian contractor to the Deep State, in a nearly perfect analogy of Lockheed with the Pentagon, except he wears of package of bluster, arrogance, self-promotion and 500 dollar shoes (all of which, undoubtedly are fully genuine). That annoys the right so much he's dismissed as an ignorant scumbag. Cognitive dissonance, that.
That much I was going to reply before I had to go around 1030 ET. Now let's see what he's got.
Remember, as Lisa Murkowski said night before last: : We are now in a place where it’s not about whether or not Judge Kavanaugh is qualified ... It is about whether or not a woman who has been a victim at some point in her life is to be believed.
Yea?? And THAT would have protected him from near PUBLIC knowledge of a history of gang rapes..
Cultural privilege, man. Harvey Wienstein's transgressions were so well-known that they were joked about at an Academy Awards. Bill Maher says that Hefner was warning his girls away from Cosby back in the 1970's. Nobody did anything about them, either, until their victims stood up and demanded justice.
In my own high school, the 'designated victim' was a young girl of native American descent, who was, if rumor is to be believed, regularly 'nailed' at parties by several guys. She moved away, eventually, and doesn't attend reunions. If one of those guys had been nominated to the Supreme Court, she might be the one being publicly demeaned by Republicans today. That's the ugly reality.
Michale
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The ONLY thing you have a leg to stand on is that it might not be THE Julie Swetnick's social media page..
If it IS, she is a liar...
If it isn't, then the jury is still out..
Do you still not understand that "mylife" is a data mining website where they mine the Internet and put together a page for you? Do you not understand the concept that if you want information changed, you have to pay them to fix what they posted about you. It's a scam, Michale, and you're judging her based on a scam website.
Your mylife page says you're a "Tea Party Supporter" and rates you as a 1 out of 5. It gets worse from there.
Your mylife page says you're a "Tea Party Supporter" and rates you as a 1 out of 5. It gets worse from there.
Yea, you keep saying that..
But it's unsubstantiated bullshit..
Do you still not understand that "mylife" is a data mining website where they mine the Internet and put together a page for you?
So, at what part did they find that Julie Swetnick was black???
You have NOTHING but supposition with absolutely NO FACTS to support your claims...
n my own high school, the 'designated victim' was a young girl of native American descent, who was, if rumor is to be believed, regularly 'nailed' at parties by several guys. She moved away, eventually, and doesn't attend reunions. If one of those guys had been nominated to the Supreme Court, she might be the one being publicly demeaned by Republicans today. That's the ugly reality.
And if we were talking about people who "moved away" you would have an argument.
But we're not so you don't..
Face reality Balthy,
You have nothing but a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit that is more unbelievable than the previous unsubstantiated bullshit that preceded it..
Can't argue with that.
No one can.. Yet, there are those who try.. :D
In short, he's a civilian contractor to the Deep State,
Scum sucking porn lawyer.. But either one fits.. :D
Remember, as Lisa Murkowski said night before last: : We are now in a place where it’s not about whether or not Judge Kavanaugh is qualified ... It is about whether or not a woman who has been a victim at some point in her life is to be believed.
And give that she has NOT A SINGLE SOLITARY FACT to support her claim???
No. She is not to be believed.
Her own parents won't back her, fer christ's sake!!
Michale
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But it's unsubstantiated bullshit..
I'm not posting your mylife page without your permission. Duh! But I can assure you it says exactly what I posted plus a whole lot more, and that makes you a liar. Turns out you're a "Tea Party Supporter" and liar. You have a shitty rating too. That little arrow puts you in the red... the worst rating. The only thing missing on there is "Shithole." :)
So, at what part did they find that Julie Swetnick was black???
I have no idea. They could have data mined it from anywhere and gotten it wrong or maybe she is of mixed race with lighter skin. I'm certainly not judging her based on her mylife page... that's all your handiwork.
You have NOTHING but supposition with absolutely NO FACTS to support your claims...
Your mylife page rates you pretty "rock bottom" so maybe it is dead on balls accurate. Okay, you win! You're a 1 on a scale of 1-5 because mylife said so. :)
This comes well after what we learned before the sexual misconduct allegations even emerged. We learned during the hearings proper that Kavanaugh had repeatedly lied, repeatedly perjured himself, about his connection to the Manny Miranda email hacking scandal during the Bush years. It doesn’t seem like he was a culprit. It’s even possible, though I think unlikely, that he didn’t know at the time that he was receiving information from stolen emails. But after it did become clear he lied about it repeatedly. None of these lies in themselves are as serious as the allegations against him, certainly with the new allegations today. But these lies are in the present. They are in many cases clearly refuted by evidence we can see with our own eyes – today evidence, not accounts from decades earlier. This suggests a casual willingness to lie which is utterly incompatible with sitting on the Supreme Court. It also makes his denials of the much more serious charges basically meaningless.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-ready-willingness-to-lie
So far, all that's happened is that potus was ranting that the left gets together in a back room and scheme and laugh about what they're getting away with. I guess getting laughed at, as happened at the UN speech, really is stuck in his craw.
Paula
Exactly right.
LB
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POTUS is unhinged.
I'm not posting your mylife page without your permission. Duh! But I can assure you it says exactly what I posted plus a whole lot more, and that makes you a liar. Turns out you're a "Tea Party Supporter" and liar. You have a shitty rating too. That little arrow puts you in the red... the worst rating. The only thing missing on there is "Shithole." :)
In other words, unsubstantiated bullshit..
If anything has been created, it's your doing.. You have all my information at your fingertips...
Why you would collect that is the interesting question...
I have no idea. They could have data mined it from anywhere and gotten it wrong or maybe she is of mixed race with lighter skin.
In other words, unsubstantiated bullshit...
Your mylife page rates you pretty "rock bottom" so maybe it is dead on balls accurate. Okay, you win! You're a 1 on a scale of 1-5 because mylife said so. :)
In other words unsubstantiated bullshit....
[157]: I guess getting laughed at, as happened at the UN speech, really is stuck in his craw.
As Bill Maher said, "Ridicule is Trump's Kryptonite."
I'm not posting your mylife page without your permission.
I don't HAVE a "my life page"... If I do, it's only because YOU put it there...
Michale
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I don't HAVE a "my life page"... If I do, it's only because YOU put it there...
*laughs* Wrong and proves so much. :)
I never met a so-called "law enforcement officer" who didn't understand how scam websites mine people's data from other websites and create pages without their knowledge or consent that may or may not contain correct information. If your information is incorrect, they make you pay them to fix the bogus information they posted about you.
Data Mining 101
Again, we have no satisfactory answer to this..
This latest so-called "victim" willingly attended parties on a regular basis where she KNEW girls were were getting drugged and gang-raped.
She had fun at these parties on an ongoing basis and never told ANYONE about the girls getting drugged and gang raped...
And SHE is a "credible" witness???
I'de call her an accomplice...
{{yaaawwwwnnnn}}
More unsubstantiated bullshit..
Not a single fact to be found..
161 Balthasar
Nikki Haley BS from today about Comrade Trumps UN speech:
All day yesterday, they were falling over themselves to get a picture with him, to talk about how great his speech was.
What total crap.
Michale
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I'de call her an accomplice...
Please keep adding to the plethora of evidence you've already supplied that confirms you were a shitty cop. :)
Please keep adding to the plethora of evidence you've already supplied that confirms you were a shitty cop. :)
Considering who is making that determination???
That makes me feel pretty damn good.. :D
I mean, she had the power to STOP all the gang rape...
But instead, she chose to not only ALLOW it to continue, but ENJOY the party along side it...
Yep.. That's a Democrat for ya...
Party hearty while the innocent people are being screwed....
Pure Democrat...
Party hearty while the innocent people are being screwed....
Kavanaugh and Judge's high school and college creed.
I mean, she had the power to STOP all the gang rape...
But instead, she chose to not only ALLOW it to continue, but ENJOY the party along side it...
Does ANYONE who is NOT a slave of Party ideology find that credible???
Anyone at all??
Kavanaugh and Judge's high school and college creed.
Yet, there are NO FACTS to support your claim.. It's nothing but unsubstantiated bullshit..
On the other hand, we DO have this so-called "victim"'s claim that THAT is exactly what she did.. Partied like it's 1999 while innocent girls were getting gang raped..
Once again..
I have facts...
YOU have unsubstantiated bullshit..
But thank you for settling one bullshit claim..
My comments *ARE* read... :D
"There were rape parties and nobody invited me!!???"
-Bill 'Bubba' Clinton
As I said yesterday, these events involved a whole lot of people, not just Kavanaugh and one female. I predicted they'd start finding each other and coming out.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/holton-arms-alumnae-ford-accusations-kavanaugh
“I Was Ashamed”: After Ford’s Accusation, a Generation of Holton-Arms Alumnae Wrestle with Their Own Truths—Together
Seven Holton alums recently shared their experiences of sexual assault with me. Many had not spoken of the incidents since they occurred in high school or shortly thereafter. All of them said that they had not widely shared their stories out of shame, embarrassment, and fear of backlash. And they all felt compelled to come forward now to support their fellow alum Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, and to change the culture of silence and misogyny they’ve experienced.
Michale
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Considering who is making that determination???
Your actions are making that determination.
A so-called "law enforcement officer" who posts the personal data of someone he nicked from the data mining website "mylife"... without providing a link... and then the "cop" commences to disparaging her as a liar based on that personal information he posted and additionally claims she is an accomplice to date raping other girls.
That makes me feel pretty damn good.. :D
I'll just bet it does, but your so-called "law enforcement" bona fides are taking a huge hit, and your common sense is not faring too well either. Please continue the total display of your ineptitude. Pay no attention to how stupid you sound as long as it makes you "feel good." :D
Yaaawwwwnnnn
More unsubstantiated bullshit..
You make the claim now you can't back it up.. AGAIN...
Just like your "sources" claim that turned out to be totally and utterly bullshit..
Just like Paula who makes totally bullshit claims and cannot back them up...
Totally and completely unsubstantiated bullshit..
BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Okay, Lindsey Graham told a reporter that Avenatti's victim should get to Committee staff right away. Avenatti has called for/threatened Committee testimony by his claimant and his collaborating witnesses since Sunday; it's in his first statement. Nobody can do that without talking with the staff lawyers.
He's called Avenatti. We'll see if there's a raise.
I mean, she had the power to STOP all the gang rape...But instead, she chose to not only ALLOW it to continue, but ENJOY the party along side it...
And probably smiled, and dressed provocatively, too, eh? I've seen this line of logic somewhere before. It falls somewhere between 'she asked for it' and 'who can blame him?'.
Since you, too, were a Vestal Virgin as a teen, and never attended the sort of party that says, 'the folks are out of town', then you probably never experienced the self-preservation instinct that screams in your head: "Leave the football team guys alone. Complaining is futile. Death is preferable to their attention."
That's why they got away with shit.
As I said yesterday, these events involved a whole lot of people, not just Kavanaugh and one female. I predicted they'd start finding each other and coming out.
Yea.. Just like they did with the Rolling Stone bullshit or the Duke Lacrosse bullshit..
BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nothing but unsubstantiated bullshit..
Judge Kavanaugh will clear committee on Friday and will be placed on the SCOTUS next week... :D
"Yer gonna lose.. Smile ya fuck.."
-Bruce Willis, THE LAST BOYSCOUT
:D
And probably smiled, and dressed provocatively, too, eh? I've seen this line of logic somewhere before. It falls somewhere between 'she asked for it' and 'who can blame him?'.
Since you, too, were a Vestal Virgin as a teen, and never attended the sort of party that says, 'the folks are out of town', then you probably never experienced the self-preservation instinct that screams in your head: "Leave the football team guys alone. Complaining is futile. Death is preferable to their attention."
That's why they got away with shit.
WHich has NOTHING to do with the FACT (according to the so-called victim) that she went to Parties where innocent girls were drugged and gang raped and she did NOTHING but continue to go to those Parties...
And YOU find that credible!!????
BBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Honey, the dog has the scoots again....
Paula
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As I said yesterday, these events involved a whole lot of people, not just Kavanaugh and one female. I predicted they'd start finding each other and coming out.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/holton-arms-alumnae-ford-accusations-kavanaugh
Wow, Paula. Everyone needs to read this.
One thing I know for sure now: This ain't going away even if they ramrod Kavanaugh onto the SCOTUS. No way... not going away.
And YOU find that credible!?
I do. If you're hanging out with the drinking crowd in high school, you're already in a high-risk environment.
and she did NOTHING but continue to go to those Parties...
Duh. See above. Not many alternative social groups for that crowd. Doesn't mean that she approved of everything that went on. Folks that age rarely go only to parties where they feel comfortable anyway.
I do.
Of course you do...
If you're hanging out with the drinking crowd in high school, you're already in a high-risk environment.
Really???
You believe that being gang raped in high school is "par for the course" and no one should do ANYTHING to stop it??
WOW...
I am glad I didn't go to YOUR high school.. :^/
Duh. See above. Not many alternative social groups for that crowd. Doesn't mean that she approved of everything that went on. Folks that age rarely go only to parties where they feel comfortable anyway.
I just LOVE how you mitigate and excuse not reporting gang rapes....
I guess that's the Democrat in you.. :^/
Since Ford’s allegations were first made public, there have been three different accounts of how many people were at the party she claims to have been assaulted at: four boys, four boys and one girl, and four boys and a couple of girls.
Kavanaugh, Judge, and two other alleged party attendees all say they do not recall the party in question or any assault.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/26/ford-polygraph-inconsistent-party/
And more bullshit and lies from the so-called "victim"... :^/
One thing I know for sure now: This ain't going away even if they ramrod Kavanaugh onto the SCOTUS. No way... not going away.
Wanna bet???
Once Kavanaugh is confirmed, this will all go away...
My gods, people..
How far gone are ya'all!!??
By her OWN ADMISSION, this total waste of skin went to parties where girls were drugged and gang raped..
Not only did she not try to stop it or at least REPORT it, she CONTINUED to go to those parties!! Continued to enjoy herself at parties where innocent girls were drugged and gang raped..
Please PLEASE tell me that there is SOMEONE here who finds that behavior abhorrent!!??
Anyone??? Liz??? JL?? LB??
We know Balthy, Kick and Paula are perfectly OK with such disgusting behavior and would likely condone and encourage it by omission as this disgusting human being did.....
But PLEASE tell me there is SOMEONE here who finds such behavior, AT THE VERY LEAST, to be shall we say morally questionable??
ANYONE???
It's really simple..
Either this totally disgusting waste of skin is complicit in the drugging and gang rape of innocent girls and patronized parties where this occurred on MULTIPLE occasions.... Which is bad...
Or this totally disgusting waste of skin is lying out her worthless in order to further a Party agenda.... Which is tons worse...
Either way, this disgusting filth of a human being is a total waste of oxygen....
Once Kavanaugh is confirmed, this will all go away..
It's always safe to bet on the short attention span of average Americans, but voters, particularly female voters, tend to remember these things later. Clarence Thomas won the day, but female voters punished the Republicans in the next election, turning it into the 'Year of the Woman'. This year, you have an unprecedented number of women running for office, a shift among white suburban women toward Democrats, and a long-standing antipathy among women toward Trump generally to contend with.
Whether Kavanaugh is confirmed or not, the Republicans have stepped directly into this year's most unwelcome political trap: if women believe her testimony (and many will), Republican (or Democratic) Senators that don't, and vote to confirm him, will be wrong in their eyes, just weeks before the midterms. Ouch.
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JTC,
I would be very interested in learning exactly what more facts you need to pass judgement... :^/
Whether Kavanaugh is confirmed or not, the Republicans have stepped directly into this year's most unwelcome political trap: if women believe her testimony (and many will), Republican (or Democratic) Senators that don't, and vote to confirm him, will be wrong in their eyes, just weeks before the midterms. Ouch.
Yea.. That's yer spin..
But it's the spin of someone who believes that gang rape in high school is just another part of high school life that must be accepted.. Just another bump on the rode of adolescence.. :^/
"I can't go for that.. uh uh... No can do..."
-Hall & Oates
Dr. Blasey Ford's polygraph exam:
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/408578-fords-lawyers-release-polygraph-report-to-substantiate-kavanaugh-accusations
Avenatti Client Was in College When She Claims to Have Attended Gang-Rape Parties With High-School Students
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/avennati-client-was-in-college-when-she-claims-to-have-attended-gang-rape-parties-with-high-school-students
NOW we come to find out that this total scumbag was in college but went to HIGH SCHOOL gang rape parties... :^/
Only a scum-sucking porn lawyer would produce such a client and call her credible.. :^/
She attended TEN gang rape parties (that she fesses up to) and NEVER reported them, NEVER tried to help, NEVER did *ANYTHING* but party along side the gang rapes...
#sad doesn't EVEN begin to describe her actions or ya'all's acceptance of those actions...
Today has been a REAL eye opening experience.... And not in a good way...
Dr. Blasey Ford's polygraph exam:
Yea, I have already pointed out the lies in it...
This so-called "victim" well DEFINITELY be a no-show tomorrow...
Or this totally disgusting waste of skin is lying out her worthless in order to further a Party agenda.... Which is tons worse...
Gotta hand it to you, you've hit all of the D's on this one:
deny
dismiss
disown
demean
degrade
demagogue
Women are watching, and grading, you know.
"None of Ms. Swetnick’s claims could be independently corroborated by the New York Times, and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, declined to make her available for an interview," the New York Times reports.
Gee, what a shocker..
Kavanaugh has passed six background checks and there is no indication that this allegation against him—or any like it—has never come up to the FBI. If what Swetnick alleges is true—that there were "many" parties at which "boys lined up" outside of rooms to commit "gang rape"—then there must exist many victims, many perpetrators, and many witnesses.
Where are all these witnesses and victims??
Com'on!! I know for a fact that here is at least THREE of ya'all here who can think logically and rationally...
Paula/Kick:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/holton-arms-alumnae-ford-accusations-kavanaugh
This is an very sad and compelling article. Thanks for sharing.
Women are watching, and grading, you know.
And what do those women think of a total waste of skin college girl attend high school gang rape parties and NEVER trying to stop it, NEVER even reporting it and CONTINUE to go to those parties at least TEN times???
I would imagine that women would think THAT much worse..
If they don't, then they are just as bad as the scumbag waste of skin...
Why won't you address that FACT???
Because you can't.. Because if you did, you would expose your argument for the support of drugging and gang raping girls that it is..
Seriously, dood!! Does stopping Kavanaugh mean SO MUCH to you that would would claim that drugging and gang raping girl is just another high school activity like underage drinking?? Something to be tolerated and condoned??
Dood, I don't even KNOW you anymore.. :^/
Well, I am so sickened that I am going to bail for the night...
I hope to read tomorrow from SOMEONE rational and logical who DOESN'T agree that drugging and gang raping innocent girls is just another rite of high school passage like underage drinking..
I am hoping that CW or Liz or JL or LB, the RATIONAL ones here will condemn this scumbag's actions of not helping to stop such heinous crimes, not reporting such heinous crimes and condemn this person's eagerness to attend high school gang rape parties while she was in college in no uncertain terms...
I hope I see that tomorrow...
The guy always whining that others are blaming the girl for getting raped is now blaming the girl for getting raped and blaming her for the other girls getting raped and whining about the poor guys being the victims here. Tells you everything you need to know.
Hysterical?
Hypocritical?
I'd say the shoes fit.
The republicans have given up on the midterms. They don't care if they lose the House or Senate. What they really care about is getting a conservative on the Supreme Court. They don't care what they look like if they cram this confirmation thru. They are looking at the next 10, 20, 30 or 40 years of SCOTUS rule.
Because you can't.. Because if you did, you would expose your argument for the support of drugging and gang raping girls that it is..
Wow, an 'I'm paper, you're glue' argument to boot! You're pulling out the stops today.
But the gallery isn't in the docket, Kavanaugh is.
Deride the witnesses and their supporters all you want, what the public will see will be a normal, middle aged nervous woman being (probably gently) grilled by an experienced prosecutor about a trauma she experienced as a naive teen, and trying her level best not to be tripped up by word games, followed by sweaty pasty face angrily denying that he ever in his life before he was married got drunk and tried to feel up a freshman.
Should be a good show.
1,600 Men Sign Full-Page NYT Ad In Support Of Christine Blasey Ford
Where is Michale when I need him?
[197] neilm: yep -
[202] Balthasar: exactly.
Balthasar
202
Exactly. :)
OMG. "President Laughingstock" is standing at a podium and living up to his name, going through every conspiracy theory from the right-wing nut factory there is.
He's unhinged.
Kick,
I never met a so-called "law enforcement officer" who didn't understand how scam websites mine people's data from other websites and create pages without their knowledge or consent that may or may not contain correct information.
Ohhhhh, I have! While Devon is incredibly tech savvy; but he is the exception — not the rule! Older officers seem to be especially tech-phobic... at least that is what I have gathered from his experiences. Devon’s Dept. just got awarded a $25k drone that will be his in the field. Xmas came early for him! I am married to a geek, but then again so is he!
Michale was a military MP, not a commissioned police officer outside of the military. While similar in some regards, MP’s aren’t working with the general public who aren’t under the umbrella of military authority. A cop showing up to a DV call at you residence won’t result in your boss being notified for most of us — unless you live on a military base. Not sure how long Michale was in the military, but he wasn’t career.
Bathy 202-
You forgot to add 11 old white guys apologizing for the scrutiny.
For those interested. Here is kav's written testimony
https://www.scribd.com/document/389519897/Brett-Kavanaugh-Written-Testimony#from_embed
Interesting thing is he admits to having "too many" beers...so which is it, a choir boy as he alleges on faux, or he did in fact over imbibe while in HS?
I can hear it now, Judge Kavanaugh you state in your written testimony that you had too much to drink on occasion, is it possible that you could have done this during one of those episodes?
Kavanaugh claimed on Fox News that he was a virgin until after college. He claims that he has always treated women with respect.
But his yearbook posts prove that he is lying! Those “coded” statements about the women he and his buddies got with are not very “respectful”, are they? I doubt he was honest about his virginity back then, if it is true. And while I don’t fault a high school kid for exaggerating about their sexual experiences, I do think that an adult should tell the truth when interviewing to be a Supreme Court Justice!
Russ
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Devon’s Dept. just got awarded a $25k drone that will be his in the field. Xmas came early for him! I am married to a geek, but then again so is he!
Oh, sweet... a very nice toy! I hope you get to "pilot" that thing.
Michale was a military MP, not a commissioned police officer outside of the military.
A Mud Puppy!? *laughs* So why is he always bragging about his "law enforcement bona fides" yet seems to be infinitely clueless regarding anything to do with actual law enforcement? Because he was nothing but a Mud Puppy. That sure does explain a lot.
goode trickle
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For those interested. Here is kav's written testimony
https://www.scribd.com/document/389519897/Brett-Kavanaugh-Written-Testimony#from_embed
Thank you, GT!
Interesting thing is he admits to having "too many" beers...so which is it, a choir boy as he alleges on faux, or he did in fact over imbibe while in HS?
He is a virgin, GT... pure as a driven snowflake. Poor guy. Somebody probably forced him to drink those and write all those horrible things in his yearbook. It's all part of a vast left-wing conspiracy that was begun 3-1/2 decades ago. :)
Kavanaugh’s lawyers released his high school personal calendar to show that he never scheduled a sexual assault during the time Ford claims he attacked her. I guess he never masturbated at anytime during his high school years either, according to his calendar.
According to the calendar, Kavanaugh also never took a dump during those four years, which explains why he is so full of SHIT today!
Russ
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I know, right!? Check out "BEACH WEEK":
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/see-four-months-of-brett-kavanaughs-calendar-from-1982
FoxNews has edited the President’s speech before the U.N. Council to lessen the amount of laughing that can be heard so not to make the Orange Baby upset!
On a non-Kavanaugh topic, people talk about the great economy but that's very much a matter of which numbers you're referencing and to whom they apply. For most people the economy ain't great and hasn't been for years.
Sometimes you’ll hear people suggest that, sure, wage growth has been slow, but that’s because employers are pouring a lot more money into health care premiums. And generally speaking, that’s true: health care costs have gone up a lot.
But as this chart shows, for the median worker the total cost of compensation has gone up only 2.6 percent over the past decade. That includes everything that employers have to pay for. In other words, the idea that wage growth is slow because the money is going somewhere else simply doesn’t hold water—and that’s true for workers at all income levels. Even the highest-paid workers, who have seen the best wage growth and who get the best benefits, have seen their total compensation go up by less than 1 percent per year.
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/09/total-compensation-has-flatlined-for-all-but-the-top-10/
Kick,
I want them to question him on why he was grounded for three weekends in May! I’m guessing sexual assault would probably warrant at least that much time for someone like him.
OMG
Another new allegation of misconduct against Kavanaugh from 1998. There are four witnesses. It has been discussed in recent days, but they decided to remain anonymous so far due to the treatment of the other victims they've seen.
A drunk Brett Kavanaugh slammed a woman into a wall in a sexual manner outside a DC bar.
When it rains, it pours.
We seem to have another accusation dating from 1998 -
The sender of the complaint described an evening involving her own daughter, Kavanaugh and several friends in 1998.
“When they left the bar (under the influence of alcohol) they were all shocked when Brett Kavanaugh, shoved her friend up against the wall very aggressively and sexually.”
“There were at least four witnesses including my daughter.” The writer of the letter provided no names but said the alleged victim was still traumatized and had decided to remain anonymous herself.
She wants to remain anonymous so this one may go no further. I think we have enough on-the-record allegations to work with. This one is notable for being more recent, however.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/senate-probing-new-allegation-misconduct-against-kavanaugh-n913581
Kick: you beat me to it!
It might also be interesting to ask him about the prescriptions he had refilled.
Never know what those pesky drug interactions will do....
Russ
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FoxNews has edited the President’s speech before the U.N. Council to lessen the amount of laughing that can be heard so not to make the Orange Baby upset!
What!? They need to rename Fox: American Pravda.
During the presser, BLOTUS said it was "fake news" lying about him getting laughed at... said they were laughing with him. He's mental. They clearly were laughing at him.
Michale,
I am hoping that CW or Liz or JL or LB, the RATIONAL ones here will condemn this scumbag's actions of not helping to stop such heinous crimes …
If that is your hope, then you need to drop the childish name-calling nonsense. You are going to get nowhere so long as you continue with this behavior.
Perhaps this latest accuser did inform authorities and was dismissed.
I have never in my life seen anyone jump as quickly to conclusions without all of the facts as you so often do.
and here is the written testimony of Dr Ford.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/ford-testimony/index.html
Paula
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Kick: you beat me to it!
Nope! I would definitely call that a tie since you took the extra time to supply a link... which I am now going to go read! BRB :)
Oh, wait. First this: This vast left-wing conspiracy theory and/or "smear campaign" conspiracy theory is falling apart fast. The guy is just a lousy drunk. There are too many witnesses. His college roommate Roche said he was a belligerent drunk. Judge's book lines up with this and what he told his girlfriend Elizabeth Rasor about gang raping a girl.
Avenatti is talking about filing criminal charges since Maryland has no statute of limitations on this. Kavanaugh and Judge have to lie about it and parse their words because they're subject to criminal charges for this ad infinitum.
@liz,
precisely. as yet, the facts are inconclusive. a short delay to seek out enough information to conclusively incriminate or exculpate is not exactly a tragedy.
JL
Russ
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I want them to question him on why he was grounded for three weekends in May! I’m guessing sexual assault would probably warrant at least that much time for someone like him.
I noticed that too.
Hey, Russ, did you notice how he counts his days spent at the beach? He numbers them and circles the number, starting at "beach week"... 1-8. He picks up the numbering later throughout the calendar; every day he spends at the beach is numbered and circled. I'm going to need to see the rest of this calendar. It sure matches up with what he and Mark Judge wrote about the Rehoboth Police in their yearbook, doesn't it?
https://theintercept.com/2018/09/25/brett-kavanaugh-accusations-mark-judge/
Why on earth would anyone who is not aware and participating in active partying would ask about "boofing" is beyond me....
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Boof
Joshua,
...as yet, the facts are inconclusive. a short delay to seek out enough information to conclusively incriminate or exculpate is not exactly a tragedy.
Indeed.
As most of the comments on this thread and most others clearly show, we seem to get too focused on the trees (and branches and leaves and …) and, as a result, we can't see the all important forest.
It is so important now that we not get distracted by the small stuff (especially in the absence of all of the information needed to make informed opinions) and keep our eyes on the overall.
Kick
Hey, Russ, did you notice how he counts his days spent at the beach? He numbers them and circles the number, starting at "beach week"... 1-8.… It sure matches up with what he and Mark Judge wrote about the Rehoboth Police in their yearbook, doesn't it?
I did not catch that, but I think you have a point! All of the things in his yearbook were boasts of being a badass in his mind, but now are viewed as evidence against the accused!
The biggest question to me is why are the Republicans sticking with this yahoo with so much potential and obvious baggage when they could move on to a better candidate without this extra crap Kavanaugh is hauling? Was he the only one who was willing to swear to defend Trump above all else?
Liz & JL,
To say I am disappointed is to not do it justice.
What more facts could there be that would POSSIBLY exculpate the FACT that this woman claims to have attented 10 PARTIES where innocent girls were drugged and gang raped and she continued to party and continued to ATTEND those parties???
Give me a SINGLE SOLITARY fact that would cause a reasonable rational person to say, "OH.. OK.. I guess it's OK that this woman attended 10 parties where she KNEW that innocent children were drugged and gang raped"
It is so important now that we not get distracted by the small stuff
Yea, yer right Liz..
Because regularly attending parties where innocent minor girls are drugged and gang raped....
We shouldn't get distracted by "the small stuff".... :^/
JL,
precisely. as yet, the facts are inconclusive.
No... The FACTS are perfectly conclusive...
This so-called "victim" regularly attended parties where female children were drugged and gang-raped and she did nothing to stop it, she did nothing to report it and CONTINUED to attend those parties.. 10 of them that she confesses to...
That FACT is conclusive insofar as this is what this so-called victim claims..
Now, if you want to claim that this so-called victim is full of shit, then we can have that discussion..
But YOU want to take her claims at face value..
Let me give you an analogy by way of explaining how totally frak'ed up your thinking is...
We have this guy who is accusing gross sexual corruption on the part some cops.. This guy goes into the station and starts shooting cops dead left and right.. 30-40 cops are dead...
Ya'all's reaction???
"I am going to ignore the fact that this guy just brutally murdered 30-40 cops because, after all, there are corrupt cops we have to bring to justice"
-Weigantians
That is exactly what ya'all are saying..
Let's ignore the FACT that this (OK Liz, I'll try it your way and see if it works) woman aided and abetted the drugging and gang raping of innocent female children....
Let's ignore that small stuff and keep our eye on stopping Kavanaugh from getting on the Supreme Court..
As I said.. Disappointed does even come close to covering it...
Well, I am still holding out hope that at least TWO people here can be rational about this and not let their Party/ideology overrule their logic and compassion.. :^/
Ex-boyfriend filed restraining order against third Kavanaugh accuser
According to Vinneccy, Swetnick threatened him after they broke up and even after he got married to his current wife and had a child.
“Right after I broke up with her, she was threatening my family, threatening my wife and threatening to do harm to my baby at that time,” Vinneccy said in a telephone interview with POLITICO. "I know a lot about her.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/26/ex-boyfriend-filed-restraining-order-against-kavanaugh-accuser-845348
So, not only does this woman like to attend children gang rape parties, but she also is a violent stalker who THREATENS children...
This is the exact kind of "witness" one would expect from a scum sucking porn lawyer..
But ya'all can ignore ALL of the FACTS and just concentrate on stopping Kavanaugh from getting on the SCOTUS..
Because, after all... THAT is all that matters.. :^/
#sad
You people *DO* know that, when it comes to child welfare and safety, there *ARE* mandatory reporting laws, right??
I am guessing that when children are being drugged and gang raped, that would invoke such a mandatory report, eh? :^/
But then again, I am not consumed by Party or ideology so I wouldn't be swayed by something so "horrendous" as a man I don't like being elevated to the Supreme Court.. :^/
THAT is "small stuff" when compared to condoning and accepting the drugging and gang raping of children...
But I guess that's just me.. :^/
Swetnick is represented by anti-Trump lawyer Michael Avenatti, who has refused multiple requests by the Senate Judiciary Committee to interview her in the past week. On Wednesday afternoon, 60 men and women who attended Kavanaugh's high school or sister schools signed a letter saying they had never heard of Swetnick or anything like the overt, systemic gang raping that she described.
What do ya expect from a scum sucking porn lawyer???
This so-called "victim" has absolutely NO CREDIBILITY except with those who WANT to believe what she says and will hysterically ignore ANYTHING else, no matter how horrendous...
If girls were being groped, drugged, verbally abused and even raped by Kavanaugh and his friends at these parties, why did you keep going to them?
A very simple and easy to answer question...
But you people are so afraid that Kavanaugh will make it to the SCOTUS that ya'all are afraid to even ASK the question, let alone answer it..
Still waiting for the last 2 rational ones to chime in...
The assault on Kavanaugh is proving Trump voters right
The attempted political assassination of Brett Kavanaugh is bad for the country, but good for a Trumpian attitude toward American politics.
The last-minute ambush validates key assumptions of Trump’s supporters that fueled his rise and buttress him in office, no matter how rocky the ride has been or will become. At least three key premises have been underlined by tawdry events of the last couple of weeks.
First, that good character is no defense. If you are John McCain, who genuinely tried to do the right thing and carefully cultivated a relationship with the media over decades, they will still call you a racist when you run against Barack Obama.
If you are Mitt Romney, an exceptionally earnest and decent man, they will make you into a heartless and despicable vulture capitalist, also for the offense of campaigning against Obama.
If you are Brett Kavanaugh, a respected member of the legal establishment who doesn’t have a flyspeck on his record across decades of public service in Washington, they will come up with dubious accusations of wrongdoing from decades ago when you were a teenager.
https://nypost.com/2018/09/24/the-assault-on-kavanaugh-is-proving-trump-voters-right/
And the Left STILL wonders how it was possible that Trump got elected...
Why it was up to Trump to call bull on Kavanaugh allegations
With apologies to Rudyard Kipling, “If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs . . .” you are Donald Trump. At least that was the case Tuesday.
With Democrats going mad, Republicans going wobbly and the media mob acting like a lynching party, it was left to the president to call bulls–t on the Brett Kavanaugh allegations — and remind the nation of the enormous stakes involved.
On a normal day, in a saner world, Trump’s tough-love speech at the United Nations would deserve our full attention. It was a comprehensive outline of his America First doctrine, but the elephant in the room is that America cannot lead the world when it is unraveling at home.
And so the president stepped away from the General Assembly and onto the bully pulpit to forcefully denounce the partisan attacks on his Supreme Court nominee as a “con game.” He accused Dems and, by extension, the media of playing “a very dangerous game” by instantly embracing every charge as gospel.
https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/why-it-was-up-to-trump-to-call-bull-on-kavanaugh-allegations/
And THAT is why Donald Trump is POTUS and why Democrats are going to lose big in the mid-terms..
Judge Kavanaugh and the weaponization of #MeToo
For far too long, women who brought forward allegations of sexual assault feared retribution and were not heard. But since the #MeToo movement started less than a year ago, we have seen an overcorrection in society that is dangerous and inarguably anti-men. And now Democrats are weaponizing that environment and the movement to railroad the confirmation of Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh in the name of politics.
In the era of #MeToo, we have been coerced as a society to believe a woman’s allegations on the basis of her gender alone. The political party that invented the term “Borking” is using uncorroborated and unverified sexual misconduct charges made by Christine Blasey Ford and Deborah Ramirez as a battering ram against Kavanaugh.
The idea of ruining a potentially innocent man’s life seems to be OK with some supporters of the #MeToo movement. Teen Vogue columnist Emily Lindin wrote, “If some innocent men's reputations have to take a hit in the process of undoing the patriarchy, that is a price I am absolutely willing to pay.” Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) said Kavanaugh doesn’t deserve a presumption of innocence because of his judicial philosophy. She has also quipped that men should just “shut up and step up.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/408302-judge-kavanaugh-and-the-weaponization-of-metoo
It's amazing how many cherished American institutions will be destroyed by Democrats in they hysterical thirst to SOMEHOW be politically relevant.. :^/
This is why today's column had to be so brief, and its why I haven't been tweeting, but hopefully by this time tomorrow everything will be back to normal.
Wait a tic!!!???
Yer actually twit'ing now!!!????
When did this happen!!????
But then again, I am not consumed by Party or ideology so I wouldn't be swayed by something so "horrendous" as a man I don't like being elevated to the Supreme Court.. :^/
THAT is "small stuff" when compared to condoning and accepting the drugging and gang raping of children...
Put another way...
If I had a choice between accepting and condoning the drugging and gang rape of innocent children or accepting that Merrick Garland would be elevated to the SCOTUS...
*I* would choose elevating Merrick Garland to the SCOTUS....
Apparently, I am alone in that choice.... :^/
The moral high ground is a very comfortable place for me to be...
*I* would choose elevating Merrick Garland to the SCOTUS....
In a stone cold micro-second...
Two men have come forward to members of the Senate Judiciary Committee to claim that they are the ones who actually assaulted Christine Blasey Ford during a house party in 1982 — and not Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
And the FINAL nail in the coffin of this so-called "victim"'s credibility.....
As of early this morning, the sex impropriety accusations score board stands at:
Kavanaugh 4
Trump 19
Trump gets a Wikipage on this topic, Kavanaugh does not - yet.
As of early this morning, the sex impropriety accusations score board stands at:
Kavanaugh 4
Trump 19
Says the guy who thinks that drugging and gang raping children is perfectly acceptable.. :^/
But hay. I'll help you out anyways...
As of early this morning, the credible sex impropriety accusations score board stands at:
Kavanaugh 0
Trump 0
There... Fixed it for you, Stig... Yer welcome..
Trump gets a Wikipage on this topic, Kavanaugh does not - yet.
So does Bill Clinton..
If yer point is that you really don't care about rape or drugging and gang raping children if you can't pin it all on Republicans???
Congrats.. You have made your point perfectly...
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/408680-third-kavanaugh-accuser-gives-first-tv-interview
As I said..
This Swetnick scumbag wanted to get paid to screw Judge Kavanaugh before she had to do it for free...
What else can you expect from a total sleazeball who partied at at least 10 parties while KNOWING that children were being drugged and gang-raped.. And never tried to stop it or report it...
There are simply no words to describe the depravity and utter pathetic-ness of people who will accept and condone such activities in pursuit of a Party agenda..
Those kinds of people are the lowest of the low...
This drugging and gang rape of children took place in Maryland....
Maryland doesn't have a statute of limitations on rape let alone the exigent circumstances of THIS claim...
Why hasn't this total waste of skin filed a criminal complaint???
Answer: Because filing a false police report IS A CRIME...
It's also interesting to note that this total waste of skin was 20 years old at the time of her accusations...
What was she doing at high school parties where innocent female children were routinely drugged and gang raped??? 10 different parties!!???
Whaaa?? Was the chips and dip THAT much better at high school parties?? Better DJs???
Or did she just get off seeing innocent children drugged and gang raped???
THIS is the person ya'all are defending!!???? THIS is the person who should be "believed"????
Pure Kafka.... I have stepped thru the Looking Glass....
Rut Roh,
Suppressed Blasey Ford Yearbooks Reveal Fast Times at Holton-Arms
But Ford, whose story suffers from significant gaps in her memory, wasn’t exactly a choir girl. In fact, congressional sources say her own yearbooks, among other things, present a potential issue for her and her character, and Republicans are prepared to cite them in questioning her story through the female sex-crimes expert they’ve hired.
A committee staffer told RealClearInvestigations, “We have her yearbooks,” which had been mysteriously scrubbed from the Web prior to Ford coming out with her allegations. “She will not make a good witness."
The source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, noted that the annual class books feature a photo of an underage Ford attending at least one party, alongside a caption boasting of girls passing out from binge drinking. Her yearbooks also openly reference sexually promiscuous behavior by the girls, including targeting boys at Kavanaugh’s alma mater, Georgetown Prep, an all-boys school in the affluent Maryland suburbs of Washington, D.C. Ford attended neighboring Holton-Arms School, an all-girls academy.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/09/27/blasey_ford_yearbooks.html
"Well... Looks like the driven snow has a few tire tracks thru it.."
-Janet Wood, THREES COMPANY
At Holton-Arms, the source added, she was known by classmates, and even some parents, by a sexually derogatory nickname playing off her maiden name Blasey, suggesting she was promiscuous.
I have to confess... I don't know what that nickname would be....
Neither her parents nor her two siblings have come out to voice support for Ford, and they did not sign a family letter of support for her and her claims circulated by her husband.
It's very telling (and sad) that her own parents and brothers don't come out in support..
That says it all right there..
[243] "Two men have come forward to members of the Senate Judiciary Committee to claim that they are the ones who actually assaulted Christine Blasey Ford during a house party in 1982 — and not Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
And the FINAL nail in the coffin of this so-called "victim"'s credibility....."
The hole in this argument is the same one that you are hanging you hopes and dreams on; These 'men' won't identify themselves, talk to the FBI and won't dare go near the senate committee...
so, their assertions are moot.
LL&P
Interesting comment from the blogosphere..
Any college girl who knowingly went to parties where other innocent female children were being drugged and gang raped by high school boys who were standing in line waiting for their turn is sick themselves. However, this entire story is about as plausible as the zombie apocalypse nation!
The hole in this argument is the same one that you are hanging you hopes and dreams on; These 'men' won't identify themselves, talk to the FBI and won't dare go near the senate committee...
Actually, the have already provided affidavits to the committee.. So that kills yer argument.. :D
But hay, glad yer here...
What do you think of the credibility of an adult woman who attends multiple (at least 10) high school "gang rape" parties where innocent children are drugged and gang raped and doesn't do a damn thing to stop it or report it??
Would you find that person's claims credible??
Yer one of 3 left...
Actually, the have already provided affidavits to the committee.. So that kills yer argument.. :D
I would imagine that the so-called "victim" is going to be surprised with those affidavits.. :D
If she bothers to show, which is still up in the air...
If she bothers to show, which is still up in the air...
We should know in about 15 mins...
Back to SweatHog..
As a college girl, she claimed to have attended 10 high school gang rape parties where innocent children were drugged and gang raped...
At one of them, she was gang raped herself..
So, this begs the question...
Which one was this so-called "victim" gang raped at?? Was it the first one?? The middle one?? The last one??
If it was before the last one, why did she go back???
If it was the last one then that would make it seem like she was perfectly OK with what was going down until it happened to her, then she was like, "Hmmmmm I don't like this.. I think I need to find different interests..."
No matter how ya'all want to spin it, this woman is totally frak'ed and ANYONE who supports her also has a few scroos loose..
https://www.c-span.org/event/?451895/judge-kavanaugh-professor-blasey-ford-testify-allegations
There's the live stream if anyone wants to watch their hero go down in flames.. :D
Hopefully (for ya'all) it will be more than an empty chair... :D
If she DOES show, then it will be good too.. I want to see her face when she is confronted with all her lies and bullshit...
Actually, these two men have said they 'may' have been the two who attacked Ford, she'll no doubt ask what their names are? then it's an instant backfire... they refuse to talk in the open... So no safe haven there.
As for the other lady, she's Kavanaugh's 'albatross' being that there's no statute of limitations for rape in Maryland, Kavanaugh might find himself on trial, confirmation or not... still, not enough investigation into the veracity of her claims to make her valid at this point.
13 mins before the torrent of Bawahahaha's…
:)
LL&P
OOOPS...
The LIVE STREAM link has just been taken down....
:D
As for the other lady, she's Kavanaugh's 'albatross' being that there's no statute of limitations for rape in Maryland,
Exactly...
So, why hasn't this waste of skin filed a criminal complaint??
Because filing a false police report is a crime..
Oops on the oops..
They just moved it..
OK AND AWAAAAYYYYYYYY WE GO!!! :D
Another comment from the blogosphere...
She was an adult two years out of HS where she witnessed multiple episodes of children being dragged and gang raped but said nothing? This is your champion Democrats? I was in college at the same time as this liar. No college kids I knew would have attended HS parties. I remember being asked to leave parties because I looked like a HS boy. While there was drinking at these frat parties, I never seen anything like she describes even at frat parties. There is no way dozens of HS girls were being gang raped in a house full of people. This has now reached Salem proportions literally.
That's a very good point..
This is classic Salem Witch Trials.....
So far, just an empty chair... :D
Still think Ford won't show, Michale?
bwahahaha…
Oops... got ahead of myself
LL&P
Still think Ford won't show, Michale?
bwahahaha…
I am thinking it's more likely now... :D
Hay, if I'm wrong, I am wrong.. It's been known to happen...
Now we'll just have to see how good she looks AFTER the hearing..
It's possible that she would have been better off if she HADN'T shown up. :D
3 mins
Still an empty chair...
have to run out and pick up my new smart tv and wall brackets... life goes on, despite the drama unfolding. Will check the highlights later.
Toodles.
Bawahaha… because I can.
:D
LL&P
"Times up..."
-Jeff Goldblum, INDEPENDENCE DAY
have to run out and pick up my new smart tv and wall brackets..
PLEASE TELL ME yer not getting an LG!!!!
DON'T GET AN LG!!!!!
OH LOOK!!!!
IT'S SPARTACUS!!!!! :D
OK, JTC
I was wrong, you were right... :D
Bawahahahaahahahahahaahahhhhhaaaa… No, it's not an LG.
:D
Enjoy the theatre.
LL&P
Let the character assassination of the so-called "victim" begin...
Whaaa??? Ya'all don't LIKE character assassinations??
Oh, that's right.. Ya'all don't like them when they are done against people who support the Dumbocrat Agenda..
Gotcha.. :D
Bawahahahaahahahahahaahahhhhhaaaa… No, it's not an LG.
GOod.. Their LED strips are cheap chinese crap and don't last...
Strange...
No screaming protesters??? Strange, eh???
It's big of you to say. There'll be no snark from me about it.
Bawahahahaha… etc. Done.
LL&P
Grassley is totally demolishing this so-called "victim"'s credibility even before she says a word!!! :D
It's big of you to say. There'll be no snark from me about it.
Bawahahahaha… etc. Done.
You have earned it and I certainly deserve it..
You are a better man than I.....
Again, with the FBI investigation..
WHY didn't the Democrats want the FBI to investigate back in July?? Or in August when the so-called "victim" was hiring lawyers and faking poly graphs???
Because the goal was to obfuscate and delay..
THAT is why it was sprung on the committee at the last second, AFTER the committee had finished it's interviews..
FBI explicitly does not, in this or any other case, reach a conclusion, period. Period. The reason why we cannot rely on the FBI report—you would not like it if we did—because it is inconclusive. They say, ‘He said, she said, and they said.' Period.”
-Joe Biden
There is Joe Biden giving the skinny on FBI investigations as they pertain to SCOTUS nominations..
So Democrats can take their requests for FBI Investigations and shove them...
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/Bigfoot120180926111537.jpg
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/27/bill-clinton-rape-accuser-juanita-broaddrick-slams-dems-for-biggest-double-standard-on-kavanaugh.html
Yea.. No one wants to hear about the rape of an innocent woman because the accused is a Democrat.... :^/
She's not doing badly, for an amateur forced to walk a high wire without a net.
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/stg092418dAPR20180924014507.jpg
Interesting...
According to the so-called "victim", she contacted Congresswomen Aschoo to let her know about the accusations a few weeks before Kavanaugh was nominated...
Congresswomen Aschoo never got back to the so-called "victim" until AFTER Kavanaugh was nominated..
Get that???
Basically, Democrats said, "Screw you. Deal with it.." until they NEEDED the so-called "victim"'s story..
That's typical Democrat tactics.. :^/
She's not doing badly, for an amateur forced to walk a high wire without a net.
Still no facts to support her claims...
Yer viewing her testimony emotionally and thru the eyes of a Party ideologue...
One needs to be objective or one's opinion is useless...
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mle180925c20180924091732.jpg
It's important to remember that this prosecutor was not hired or brought to Capitol Hill to be impartial. She's working for the Republican majority here.
It's important to remember that this prosecutor was not hired or brought to Capitol Hill to be impartial. She's working for the Republican majority here.
A prosecutor will search for the FACTS..
If you have any FACTS to support that this prosecutor has ANY other agenda...
By all means, show them...
But yer simply showing your agenda...
REPORTER: "How do you feel, Judge Kavanaugh?"
JUDGE KAVANAUGH: "Like a Duke Lacrosse player.."
Yep....
Ms Mitchell is setting the so-called "victim" perfectly...
Ms Mitchell knows the so-called victim is lying...
I have seen a LOT of prosecutors go after lying witnesses and this is EXACTLY how they work... :D
"It was obvious that they were drinking before they got to the gathering"
-SCV
Ooops Big mistake for the SCV there..
If you have any FACTS to support that this prosecutor has ANY other agenda...
She was hired by the Republicans. They have an agenda.
SCV was asked if she had anything to drink prior to her arrival at the gathering.
SCV stated nothing at all..
Dollars get you doughnuts that that affidavits exist that prove SCV was drinking at the pool before the gathering..
She was hired by the Republicans. They have an agenda.
Which has nothing to do with the prosecutor..
You DO so like your fact-less character assassinations, don't you?? :^/
AHA!!
She claimed she heard a conversation and then she claimed she DIDN'T hear a conversation...
Which has nothing to do with the prosecutor..
Not if you follow basic sentence construction.
Not if you follow basic sentence construction.
Not if you follow basic Party Slavery.
There, fixed it for you...
Your girl is going down, Balthy.. She has already been caught in several liws...
Lies.. even...
It's funny. Democrats provide NO FACTS, but rather just heap unwarranted praise on the so-called victim..
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/payn_c16006420180919120100.jpg
AHA!!
Don't pee yourself over tiny details. This woman is trying to remember events that happened 36 years ago.
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/sk091818dAPR20180917034549.jpg
Don't pee yourself over tiny details. This woman is trying to remember events that happened 36 years ago.
If a man's life and livelyhood at stake?
The hell I can't!!!
And Grassley just ripped Durbin a new on!!! :D
Don't pee yourself over tiny details.
Yea, you call them "tiny details"...
With President Trump you call them "LIES"...
Funny how your definition is TOTALLY dependent on the -D/-R after the person's name..
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/stg091818dAPR20180918034508.jpg
That's Democrats in a nutshell...
Grassley is deliberately ignoring the timeline set forth by Feinstein, to justify giving this witness (among others) the bum's rush.
Hay, howz that new witness coming along??
Yunno.. The college girl who claims she likes to go to high school gang rape parties and party along side innocent children who are being drugged and gang raped...
She must like doing that a lot since she attended at least 10 high school gang rape parties.....
GREAT witness ya got there.. :^/
Typical Democrat.... :^/
Grassley is deliberately ignoring the timeline set forth by Feinstein
As well he should.. It's unsupported by ANY facts at all..
Can't wait to see Ms Mitchell tear into the so-called "victim" again...
It's obvious that Ms Mitchell is setting up the so-called "victim" for a huge Perry Mason reveal.. :D
But hay, I could be wrong.. Been known to happen...
Boys More Likely To Be Victims Of Teen Dating Violence Than Girls, Study Shows
https://www.studyfinds.org/boys-more-victimized-by-teen-dating-violence-than-girls-study-finds/
Interesting...
Yunno.. The college girl who claims she likes to go to high school gang rape parties and party along side innocent children who are being drugged and gang raped...
She must like doing that a lot since she attended at least 10 high school gang rape parties.....
GREAT witness ya got there.. :^/
Typical Democrat.... :^/
I get it.. No one wants to talk about her..
I can't says I blame ya'all....
Who would want to be stand up and counted with the likes of that total waste of skin... :^/
Interesting to note..
Every Democrat questions has been towards, not getting at the facts, but rather pushing an FBI investigation..
Interesting. Hard to figure what point the Prosecutor is making with the map, or the patient record. Over and over she seems to make the case that an FBI investigation would have answered these questions beforehand.
Senator Whitehouse seems to be making that very point now.
Interesting. Hard to figure what point the Prosecutor is making with the map, or the patient record.
Have you ever attended a criminal trial??
Senator Whitehouse seems to be making that very point now.
Then why wasn't an FBI investigation done in July???
Gaddang it!!
Grassley doing his best cranky.
And she was caught in another lie...
She claimed she didn't show WaPoop her medical records and WaPoop claims she did..
This was LESS THAN A MONTH AGO...
Can't blame 35 years on that, Blathy...
Gaddang it!!
Grassley doing his best cranky.
Agreed. He's getting sick and tired of the FBI being brought up when Joe Biden has already settled that question..
Have you ever attended a criminal trial?
Far more than you have, I'll wager. I worked 25 years in a law office, remember?
Then why wasn't an FBI investigation done in July?
See Feinstein's timeline.
Caught in another lie..
Says she has a fear of flying, yet she flies a lot...
Far more than you have, I'll wager. I worked 25 years in a law office, remember?
Trials??
Criminal trials??
I only ask, because you seem strangely ignorant about what a prosecutor does...
Because what she is doing is plainly clear to someone who has observed prosecutors professionally for decades..
She is establishing the claims of witness and see if they are consistent..
So far, this so called "victim" has been VERY inconsistent..
Klobuchar reiterates: a proper investigation of this would have helped immensely.
Klobuchar reiterates: a proper investigation of this would have helped immensely.
A proper investigation WAS done..
If Democrats had opened this up back in July when they heard of it, then they could have had their FBI investigation..
Any lack of FBI involvement is SOLELY the fault of Democrats..
So called "victim" says that "beach friends" advised her to go to the media...
Yet, she also claims that she told no one about the assault...
Weird...
She is establishing the claims of witness and see if they are consistent..
So far, she's nitpicking. It's still unclear what she's aiming at. She seems to be implying that Ford is being disingenuous, but Ford's sincere replies refute the premise.
"FBI explicitly does not, in this or any other case, reach a conclusion, period. Period. The reason why we cannot rely on the FBI report—you would not like it if we did—because it is inconclusive. They say, ‘He said, she said, and they said.' Period.”
-Joe Biden
So far, she's nitpicking.
Yes, of course.. That's how you would describe it..
It's still unclear what she's aiming at.
She's aiming at consistency...
She seems to be implying that Ford is being disingenuous, but Ford's sincere replies refute the premise.
Of course you would say that..
But there are blatant inconsistencies.. Some are obvious now, some will be obvious later...
You are emotional.. You need to be objective and forget Party agenda...
[329] You apparently missed the part where she testified that she didn't tell her close friends, but shared it with a set of "beach friends" - essentially strangers that she could bounce ideas off of.
Like my own Waffle House friends..
Like my own Waffle House friends..
So, you admit that she lied when she claimed she told no one..
Just as you would be lying if you said you told no one, but actually DID tell your Waffle House friends..
I wonder if Ms Mitchell's report and conclusions will be made public...
It would make a helluva read... :D
BUSTED!!
"Did you ever give advice to anyone about how to take a polygraph"
"No, never"
:D
Definitely evasive answers regarding the polygraph...
Recess for lunch..
She has frak'ed up bigtime...
But there are blatant inconsistencies..
None regarding accusation itself. Again, the prosecutor is picking around at the edges. She seems to be anxious to disqualify the polygraph test, but without the testimony of the polygraph tester, that's a dead end argument..
None regarding accusation itself.
Of course not.. She won't give any details on that to judge inconsistencies..
But she has made MANY statements that have proven she is a liar.. Some you can tell right now, some will become apparent..
She seems to be anxious to disqualify the polygraph test, but without the testimony of the polygraph tester, that's a dead end argument..
No, it isn't. It's going to really come back to bite her on the ass...
Republicans reportedly furious that Rachel Mitchell (the prosecutor) hasn't gone yet for Ford's jugular.
Maybe should have opted for a Defense Attorney instead, someone who is used to challenging, rather than supporting. an accusation of assault.
None regarding accusation itself.
Yea?? 4 boys?? Then 2 boys??
Six people at the party.. Then 5 people at the party..
Heard them talking down stairs. DIDN'T hear them talking down stairs..
She is one big liar from start to finish...
Kavanaugh will be confirmed... It's open and shut now..
Bring out yer college girl that attended 10+ high school gang rape parties, partied along while innocent children being drugged and raped and never did a thing to stop it or report it...
THAT is yer "best" hope now..
BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Republicans reportedly furious that Rachel Mitchell (the prosecutor) hasn't gone yet for Ford's jugular.
Yea?? Facts to support??
Don't tell me, let me guess... Your "sources" :D
Oh wait!! I can do it too!!
"Democrats reportedly furious that Kavanaugh hasn't been tarred and feathered and his penis removed and his head cut off..."
:^/
Michale
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"Did you ever give advice to anyone about how to take a polygraph"
Wrong. The question was:
"Have you ever given tips or advice to someone who is looking to take a polygraph test?"
Don't quit your day job, Michale; you'd make a lousy lawyer. Oh, wait... obviously, you're well aware of that already.
Sorry to burst your "lousy lawyer" bubble, but this is a credible witness. Witnesses that are lying are rehearsed and parse their words. You'll easily recognize what a rehearsed witness is when Kavanaugh swears in and begins the word parsing and repetition. We already know he is rehearsed because he spent about a week holed up in the White House doing exactly that. :)
POTUS cancels meeting with Rosenstein. Good call by Trump; well done.
Sorry to burst your "lousy lawyer" bubble, but this is a credible witness.
Of course you would say that..
"Have you ever given tips or advice to someone who is looking to take a polygraph test?"
And the so-called victim said "NO"...
There is ONLY ONE REASON for Mitchell to ask that question and that is because they have evidence that the so-called "victim" *DID* give advice at one point or another..
The "victim" is a psychology professor.. It's inconceivable that she has never been asked at a party or by one of her in-trouble students, "Hay! How can I pass a polygraph!!??"
You watch.. I'll bet ya dollars to donuts that Mitchell has facts that show the so-called "victim" has been asked that question and gave advice...
There is simply no other reason to ask that question...
POTUS cancels meeting with Rosenstein. Good call by Trump; well done.
Yea, we knew that 2 days ago.. :^/
Yer "sources" suck.. :D
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POTUS cancels meeting with Rosenstein today and reschedules. Good call by Trump; well done.
Yea, my sources knew that 2 days ago...
Yer sources STILL suck.. :D
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoHD4eeW0AEzUgV.jpg
She looks like she is about to faint!! :D
Michale,
I think it would be better for you to put your devices down or get away from the computer and just listen to the testimony.
My takeaway from your comments this morning is that you aren't watching the same hearing that everyone else is ...
Another lie by this so-called "victim"..
Ford claimed that when President Trump was elected in 2016, she was soo afraid that Kavanaugh would be nominated for the SCOTUS...
Kavanaugh's name wasn't added to the SCOTUS list until a year later in 2017....
Michale
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There is ONLY ONE REASON for Mitchell to ask that question and that is because they have evidence that the so-called "victim" *DID* give advice at one point or another..
Wrong again. There are going to be no other witnesses save Ford and Kavanaugh. Exactly who is Ms. Mitchell going to question in order to prove Dr. Ford has done this? Any evidence they have to the contrary would have been supplied to the lawyer under the rules of discovery, would it not?
An actual reason to ask her this question is the fact that she is a professor of psychology. Part of the job description is understanding how the human brain works and how memories are stored and imprinted, knowing how to counsel people to change their imprint in order to get over phobias and various assorted life events.
Like I said. Don't quit your day job. :)
You watch.. I'll bet ya dollars to donuts that Mitchell has facts that show the so-called "victim" has been asked that question and gave advice...
So you think real court is like Perry Mason where something is sprung at the last minute? Must I recite the lines in "My Cousin Vinny" where Mona Lisa Vita tells Vinny about discovery? :)
There is simply no other reason to ask that question...
Wrong again. :)
I think it would be better for you to put your devices down or get away from the computer and just listen to the testimony.
If I put away my devices, how can I listen to the testimony?? :D
My takeaway from your comments this morning is that you aren't watching the same hearing that everyone else is ...
But I am..
I am just watching it without the baggage of hysterical emotionalism and Party/Ideological fanaticism...
I am watching it with the cold eye of objectivity with the SOLE goal of getting to the FACTS..
And the FACT is that this so-called "victim" is taking a HUGE hit in the credibility department..
I just hope they make Mitchell's report public...
[352] Good try. But Kavanaugh's name came up well before Trump added him to the list. Ford initiated her contact with legislators before K was nominated.
Michale
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Yea, my sources knew that 2 days ago...
Trump just cancelled it today. Making stuff up proves only that you'll lie for no particular reason.
Yer sources STILL suck.. :D
You're a liar. :)
[352] Good try. But Kavanaugh's name came up well before Trump added him to the list.
Facts to support??
Like Gorsuch, Trump selected Kavanaugh from a public list of potential Supreme Court nominees, although Kavanaugh was added to that list in late 2017. Trump made the list with the help of conservative organizations, including the Federalist Society.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/jul/09/president-trumps-supreme-court-pick-kavanaugh/
I have my facts, Blathy..
Where are yours???
Don't tell me.. Let me guess..
"Sources"... :D
And we're back.....
I need to make a beer run... :D
Whew! Made it back in time..
"I don't wanna miss a thing!!"
-Areosmith
:D
Republicans coming into the room look like someone machine-gunned their dogs over the lunch break.
I actually have some sympathy for Mitchell - she accepted a lose/lose assignment.
I think she's trying to frame up the idea that Dr. Ford is doing this as a political gambit - trying to build the idea that she deliberately delayed, etc. Ford's responses keep short-circuiting Mitchell, especially when she says "thanks, that's a great question!" instead of being defensive or evasive.
If this whole exercise ends with a majority believing Dr. Ford, Mitchell will end up the scapegoat. Repubs will claim SHE failed. Those who remain defiant, at any rate.
Reportedly Chris Wallace on FOX is saying Ford is believable and this is devastating for the Repubs. Since Blotus is watching, we'll see what he does.
Of course, we're still in Act 1.
"I have several advanced degrees and a PHD but I don't know what 'exculpatory' means"
-Dumb Blonde
:D
Reportedly Chris Wallace on FOX is saying Ford is believable and this is devastating for the Repubs. Since Blotus is watching, we'll see what he does.
Facts to support???
No?? Of course not...
Republicans coming into the room look like someone machine-gunned their dogs over the lunch break.
Like I said.. blatant emotionalism without a hint of objectivity...
BUT....
But, since ya'all want to devolve this discussion into blatant emotionalism.....
Looks like the so-called victim was rode hard and put away wet during lunch..
My gods, look at her!!! She is totally frazzled..
Ahhhhh She has GOFUNDME accounts..
This woman has several advance degrees and a PHD but she doesn't know what "on your behalf" means!!????
SPARTACUS IS UP!!!!!!
Paula : I think she's trying to frame up the idea that Dr. Ford is doing this as a political gambit
Yes, still trying to pull that trigger. Failing epicly. Again, Dr. Ford's honest answers defeating that effort.
"I'll ask for a ruling from the chair."
Prosecutor reminding everyone that she's a prosecutor.
[352] Good try. But Kavanaugh's name came up well before Trump added him to the list.
Balthy??
FACTS to support your claim??
ANY facts at all???
Hmmmmmmm?????
"I'll ask for a ruling from the chair."
Yea, cuz the liar's lawyers tried to cover for their client who didn't know what "on your behalf" means.. :^/
"When did YOU (Ford) request an FBI investigation"
{{{{silence}}}} {{silence}}
Prosecutor Mitchell looks like she eats those kinds of shyster lawyers for lunch.. :D
"Prosecutor Mitchell looks like she eats lunch with these kinds of lawyers.."
There, fixed it for you.
"Prosecutor Mitchell looks like she eats lunch with these kinds of lawyers.."
There, fixed it for you.
Heh funny...
Still waiting for you to provide facts that Kavanaugh's name was common knowledge before President Trump added him to the list in late 2017...
Do you have any such facts???
Video feed keeps buffering. Bandwidth at a premium today.
Still waiting for you to provide facts that Kavanaugh's name was common knowledge before President Trump added him to the list in late 2017...
I heard Kavanaugh's name brought up myself, before Trump was even elected.
"I have no further questions"
-Prosecutor Mitchell
The so-called "victim" is toast!!
The so-called victim totally blew the interview at that point...
The so-called "victim" just PROVED that her goal is political and not to get to the facts...
I heard Kavanaugh's name brought up myself, before Trump was even elected.
SO, you have no facts to support your claim....
Even if YOU had heard Kavanaugh's name, which I believe because you have NO REASON to lie... :^/
Is it likely that the so-called "victim" would have heard the name all the way out in California???
All the way out in California??
Yea, SCV really blew it in that last line of questioning...
Mitchell knew she had her at that point...
Huh?
Huh?
Could you be more specific???
All the way out in California?
All the way out in California??
Yea.. That is where the so-called "victim" lived... All the way out in California...
And she was supposed to hear "alleged" scuttlebutt that Kavanaugh was on the list for the SCOTUS in Nov of 2016...
Maybe YOU can explain to me how that is possible..
What to you mean by all the way out?
And she was supposed to hear "alleged" scuttlebutt that Kavanaugh was on the list for the SCOTUS in Nov of 2016...
I don't understand what your problem with this is ...
California isn't that out of touch, Michale. You can trust me on this. :)
Another lie by this so-called "victim"..
Ford claimed that when President Trump was elected in 2016, she was soo afraid that Kavanaugh would be nominated for the SCOTUS...
Kavanaugh's name wasn't added to the SCOTUS list until a year later in 2017....
I don't understand your confusion, Liz....
The so-called "victim" is toast!!
Hardly. If anything, she's far more credible than she was before the hearing.
Over and over, the cross-examination revealed places where a proper investigation would have been helpful, and in fact, the prosecutor ended her cross with the implication that a more professional interview would have been preferable!
Lindsay Graham trying his best to be a stand-in prosecutor.
Forgive, if I dont' believe you. I didn't listen to all of the hearing today but, I bet she didn't say what you said she said.
I base that on my experience with your comments here.
I am willing to bet that NO ONE here found ANY problem with the so-called "victim"'s testimony. Everything was perfectly consistent and she would walk on water if asked..
That about sums up everyone's opinion here... :^/
Presumptuous, I know... But it comes from over a decade of being here.. :D
That was meant for Michale.
Ford blew it big time.. She has ZERO credibility.. The way Ms Mitchell ended the interview proves that beyond any doubt...
Is it likely that the so-called "victim" would have heard the name all the way out in California?
Only if she owns a computer, or a television set.
Heh
Forgive, if I dont' believe you. I didn't listen to all of the hearing today but, I bet she didn't say what you said she said.
You don't believe what???
It would REALLY help if you quote the comments you are referring to..
The so-called "victim" stated in the WaPoop interview that she was incensed when Trump was elected because she was afraid that Trump would nominate Kavanaugh to the court..
Kavanaugh was added to the possible list of nominees until late 2017, a full YEAR after the election..
So, how could the so-called "victim" be afraid of an event that there was NO INDICATION that it would happen???
Only if she owns a computer, or a television set.
Yea.. Cuz Kavanaugh was REALLY in the news in Nov of 2016..
Again, do you have ***ANY*** facts to support your claim??
ANY at all???
No, you do not..
Just a quick question for everyone since I didn't see all of the hearing …
Do we know when Dr. Ford became aware that Kavanaugh was a judge?
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Have you heard of the google, Michale?
We also learned that there is a $$$$ incentive here as the so-called "victim" has several GOFUNDME accounts "on her behalf"... A concept she apparently has NO IDEA what it means..
Yet she knew what it meant when $$$ was involved.. :^/
Have you heard of the google, Michale?
Sure.. Find me a reference to Kavanaugh in Nov of 2016 that would indicate he is in consideration for the SCOTUS..
I'll be here all day..
Don't worry.. I won't expect a concession from you.. :^/
Do we know when Dr. Ford became aware that Kavanaugh was a judge?
No, we don't...
But we DO know when he was named as the "assailant"...
Jul of 2018...
I am willing to bet that NO ONE here found ANY problem with the so-called "victim"'s testimony.
Only if they heard it.
Mitchell was clearly provided questions getting at the presumption that Ford was pushed to testify by Democratic activists. That flopped like a dead fish.
Graham still pushing that theory in the hallway, but when his turn came up he hid behind Mitchell's skirts.
Optics are terrible for Republicans.
Mitchell was clearly provided questions getting at the presumption that Ford was pushed to testify by Democratic activists. That flopped like a dead fish.
Actually, the way Mitchell closed it proves that THAT is exactly what the so-called victim was doing...
I understand that you wouldn't see it, being a Party fanatic and all...
Or, to be fair, it's likely your ignorance of courtroom activities..
But to someone who is objective and very familiar with courtroom procedures?
It was plain as day.. Mitchell nailed Ford bigger n shit.. :D
Optics are terrible for Republicans.
And the facts totally decimated Ford...
The fact that Ford look so frazzled and her hair style was "DOC BROWN" proves how bad she lost...
Oh, for Christ's sake!
Anyone else here besides Michale who doesn't know that the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit is a springboard to the SCOTUS? Anyone at all? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh! :)
NYT’s Apologizes for Poll Asking If Ford’s Testimony Is Credible
"We're sorry for this tweet. In retrospect, a Twitter poll is insensitive in light of the gravity of this hearing."
https://ntknetwork.com/nyts-apologizes-for-poll-asking-if-fords-testimony-is-credible/
The NY Grime is only apologizing for the poll and calling it inappropriate is because the poll was overwhelmingly AGAINST the so-called "victim"... :^/
Anyone else here besides Michale who doesn't know that the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit is a springboard to the SCOTUS? Anyone at all? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh! :)
Considering that the so-called "victim" didn't know what 'exculpatory' means, I would say it's a safe bet that the so-called victim didn't know that the Court Of Appeals for the DC Circuit is a springboard for the SCOTUS...
Do you have ANY facts to support the claim that the so-called victim knew??
Any facts at all??
No you do not.. :D
BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I think Mitchell was onto something with her line of questioning regarding who was going to pay for the polygraph test.
Obviously, Ford put herself through all the gender-specific name calling, death threats, and having to vacate her home because she wanted a free polygraph test. *shakes head*
Seriously?
Face reality people...
This disgusting con is at an end.. The committee will vote tomorrow and approve Kavanaugh and the full Senate will put him into the SCOTUS next week..
Ya'all lost.. Run along and lick your wounds...
Or, to be fair, it's likely your ignorance of courtroom activities..
This isn't a Court. In an actual courtroom there are these people called 'corroborating witnesses' that are brought in to substantiate claims. Ford was denied due process here, big time.
Obviously, Ford put herself through all the gender-specific name calling, death threats, and having to vacate her home because she wanted a free polygraph test. *shakes head*
She is a Dumbocrat hero with hundreds of thousands, if not MILLIONS of dollars coming to her via GOFUNDME accounts and media interviews and book deals..
Her motivations beyond the political, are clear..
Mitchell proved that with the final leg of questioning...
"No more questions" when there is still time left is what a prosecutor says when they have wrapped up the case with a Perry Mason moment...
The onus is now on Kavanaugh to not look like a squirrely, evasive liar.
This isn't a Court. In an actual courtroom there are these people called 'corroborating witnesses' that are brought in to substantiate claims. Ford was denied due process here, big time.
"FBI explicitly does not, in this or any other case, reach a conclusion, period. Period. The reason why we cannot rely on the FBI report—you would not like it if we did—because it is inconclusive. They say, ‘He said, she said, and they said.' Period.”
-Joe Biden
Liar had her "due process"...
And Mitchell just wiped the floor with Ford...
This was a Perry Mason moment...
And Ford failed... Miserably...
The onus is now on Kavanaugh to not look like a squirrely, evasive liar.
Sorry, sugar, yer wrong.. AGAIN...
Kavanaugh doesn't have to prove his innocence...
Democrats have to prove his guilt..
And ya'all FAILED miserably...
The committee will vote tomorrow and approve Kavanaugh and the full Senate will put him into the SCOTUS next week..
And leave all of the other allegations about Kavanaugh hanging? That'll work as an act of raw political power, but seriously hurt Republican candidates in the upcoming midterms.
At this point, however, raw political power is all that the GOP has left.
Considering that the so-called "victim" didn't know what 'exculpatory' means, I would say it's a safe bet that the so-called victim didn't know that the Court Of Appeals for the DC Circuit is a springboard for the SCOTUS...
Like I said: Don't quit your day job.
When you are under oath, it is not uncommon at all to make sure you understand the question being asked to ensure you're answering properly.
Any facts at all??
I have the facts to prove you needn't quit your day job to become a lawyer. You should give that spamming of the board with that same lame crap a rest already; no further proof of your dearth of knowledge and ideas is required for anyone here. :)
From what I've caught in snippets, Ford did as well as she could in that environment. However, the fact still remains, without Judge being called to the same setting to be questioned, it's still a she said/he said scenario. Given that 'he' and his proponents won't entertain Judges appearance before the committee, we have to assume his testimony does them no service.
Therefore, I'm inclined to believe Ford at face value. If the alleged victim is advocating for this witness to be heard, even though she knows his testimony might be contrary to her own, surely the GOP have nothing to fear from Judge. Logically, it would be the other way around were Judge a solid witness, if someone can explain to me why this guy isn't to be heard...(other than the usual, he's got nothing to say beyond his 'so-called' statement.) it would certainly break the tie that now exists. Kavanaugh's following testimony is meaningless at this point, he can say he wasn't there and do this thing until the cows come home, but without Judge in front of the committee answering questions it still remains she said/he said... Only she gets the benefit of the doubt for asking for the witness that may or may not corroborate her claim.
Kavanaugh would be wise to ask for Judge to be sworn in and be heard, in fact it's about the only thing he can do to swing this back to his favour.
LL&P
This was a Perry Mason moment...
There was a Perry Mason moment? I definitely missed it. That cross examination didn't just end on a whimper, it ended on a sigh.
And leave all of the other allegations about Kavanaugh hanging?
Of course.. They are NOT credible allegations.
Unless you call the claim of an adult woman who attends high school rape parties on an ongoing basis and parties next to innocent children being drugged and gang raped...
You call a claim from such a person credible???
REALLY???
There was a Perry Mason moment? I definitely missed it.
Of course you did..
Because you are blinded by Party fanaticism...
It was plain as day for those who are familiar with courtroom procedures...
Mitchell nailed Ford bigger n shit.. :D
It was GLORIOUS to see.. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zVOkb3CdZ0
Start viewing at -58:00 and you'll see EXACTLY where Prosecutor Mitchell grabbed the so-called "victim" by the short and curlies...
Sure.. Find me a reference to Kavanaugh in Nov of 2016 that would indicate he is in consideration for the SCOTUS..
I found one that you would like, Michale:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/24/judging-trump-supreme-court-choice-on-president-elects-immediate-agenda.html
Now, you'll see a coached witness and let the word parsing begin.
Notice how Mitchell used humor to commiserate with the witness and make the witness feel at ease...
Classic Good Cop routine..
Sure.. Find me a reference to Kavanaugh in Nov of 2016 that would indicate he is in consideration for the SCOTUS..
I found one that you would like, Michale:
Hokay Great...
Now, do you have any facts that show that the so-called victim saw this???
Any facts at all???
Oh he sounds pissed!!!
Rightly so...
So Kavanaugh is doing the "Dems have been out to get me" gambit. Poor little victim.
He says "listen to the witnesses" whom his Repub handlers have REFUSED to bring in to testify.
He says he demanded a hearing immediately - a hearing that would be run by partisan Repubs - but does not demand an investigation. Ford asks for FBI; Kavanaugh doesn't.
Michale,
If Dr. Ford was actually assaulted by Bret Kavanaugh, I am sure that she followed his career very closely.
Why do you think it is so unlikely that she heard nothing about talk of his possible nomination to the Supreme Court?
Now, do you have any facts that show that the so-called victim saw this???
Any facts at all???
I mean, honestly???
FOX NEWS???
And this so-called "victim" is a regular viewer of Fox News???
Really???
Why do you think it is so unlikely that she heard nothing about talk of his possible nomination to the Supreme Court?
Because there are **NO FACTS** to support it.. Because "Kavanaugh" was NEVER mentioned in the context of this accusation until Jul of 2018...
I'm done with you on this issue, Michale.
I'm done with you on this issue, Michale.
Oh, I was done when you claimed that the drugging and gang rape of children is "small stuff"....
Playing victim and blaming Democrats for Dr. Blasey Ford won't help him. "What goes around comes around."
He's blowing all to Hell his sworn testimony that he is "impartial."
If Dr. Ford was actually assaulted by Bret Kavanaugh, I am sure that she followed his career very closely.
Because HER OWN claims is that she tried to forget everything about the incident...
Oh, I was done when you claimed that the drugging and gang rape of children is "small stuff"....
I claimed no such thing.
I'm not only done with you. I'm done with this site.
Oooooooo Judge Kavanaugh is DECIMATING Democrats...
Oh, I was done when you claimed that the drugging and gang rape of children is "small stuff"....
Yes, you did...
It is so important now that we not get distracted by the small stuff (especially in the absence of all of the information needed to make informed opinions) and keep our eyes on the overall.
Democrats really should be ashamed of themselves...
His reciting his history is just another version of "here's a bunch of women I didn't rape".
He's yapping about the "process" - which has been partisan from top to bottom, and throughout which materials about his background have been suppressed.
He's now making categorical denials about the charges. Problem is, who are we to believe? Repubs have set up a he said/she said rather than having an actual investigation. He can assert anything so long as FBI doesn't check it out. He can claim witnesses, just like 65 women who signed a letter - but unless they are brought in, testify under oath, etc. it's all just assertion.
He's now making categorical denials about the charges. Problem is, who are we to believe?
The guy who has FACTS to support his claims..
He can assert anything so long as FBI doesn't check it out.
FBI checked out his assertions SIX TIMES....
You lost, Paula... Get over it...
He can claim witnesses, just like 65 women who signed a letter - but unless they are brought in, testify under oath, etc. it's all just assertion.
No.. It was a LEGAL affidavit, under penalty of law...
Which your so-called "victim" has NONE....
You claimed that these people have recanted their support....
Where are your FACTS to support that claim...
Non-existent...
You lied, pure and simple...
I have to say that Kavanaugh is a lot more emotional than the so-called "victim" was.... :D
He likes beer!!
OH MY GODS, HE DESERVES TO BE HUNG!!!!!
Democrats are so pathetic....
I have to admit..
The knuckle dragging ground pounder in me (which is pretty much all of me :D) finds the emotionalism a bit hard to listen to..
Once again... TONS of women who KNEW Judge Kavanaugh back then swear to his integrity....
And NOT A SINGLE ONE has recanted that swearing...
Anyone who claims that there has been recantations is a lowlife just pushing a Party Slavery agenda...
Oh wow... Judge Kavanaugh just totally body slammed Democrats...
Hooooraaaaaa!!!!
Apparently, Judge Kavanaugh has a nasal problem..
Kavanaugh bitch slaps DiFi!!!! :D
DiFi says: How about FBI?
He dodges. He starts crying. He says you're investigating! FBI doesn't reach conclusions! NO ONE CAN FIND THE TRUTH! So let's just skip that part!
OK Kavanaugh is being too verbose...
Answer the question and just shut up...
DiFi says: How about FBI?
Why not have the FBI involved in July????
Because it wasn't politically expedient back then...
No, but I've gone to sleep!
Now, he's lying.
One thing is clear...
Kavanaugh doesn't like Democrats...
Now, he's lying.
Yea, yer right...
NO ONE could **EVER* go to sleep after drinking..
BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Democrats better HOPE and PRAY that Judge Kavanaugh is the even tempered LOOK AT THE LAW ONLY kinda guy that he says he is..
Because, if he isn't, Democrats are in for a WORLD OF HURT once he is confirmed to the SCOTUS....
Why, he's actually sniveling. They haven't brought up his history of lying to the committee yet. I wonder if his lower lip will tremble at that accusation.
Personally, I hope the SCOTUS does do away with RvW, just as payback....
Why, he's actually sniveling.
Nice... Just about what I expect from Party slaves....
They haven't brought up his history of lying to the committee yet.
And here I thought you were concerned about the Ford bullshit accusation.. :^/
Feinstein was trying mightily to get him to admit that every complaint that he makes about process is a reminder that the Republicans have thrown process and regular order out the window for this one.
And here I thought you were concerned about the Ford bullshit accusation.. :^/
I can see now that your ONLY concern is stopping Kavanaugh...
ANd if it takes supporting a scumbag who, as a college girl, attended high school gang rape parties on multiple occasions where she partied next to innocent children being drugged and gang raped...
You'll do that.. :^/
Sad doesn't even begin to describe that...
Feinstein was trying mightily to get him to admit
And DiFi was bitch slapped down big time
I can't WAIT to see Judge Kavanaugh body slam the other Democrats to the ground...
Kavanaugh dodges Leahy asking if he would welcome Mark Ford being questioned by FBI about the specific allegations. He blusters, obfuscates, etc.
And Leahy gets bitch slapped to the ground!!! :D
blusters, obfuscates, etc.
You mean, like Democrats have done since July of 2018...
Michale
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Yea, yer right...
NO ONE could **EVER* go to sleep after drinking..
I didn't say that. Learn to comprehend the written word, and stop putting words in people's mouths.
He just testified under oath that he never drank so much that he passed out. He's lying.
Also, he doesn't want the FBI to investigate; it's obvious. He's playing victim rather than answering the question. Pathetic. He's filibustering rather than answering the questions. This is what a lying witness looks like, people. #Pathetic
[466] you really believe that those arguments are working on some level?
Notice how Dumbocrats want to indict Judge Kavanaugh for ANYTHING in High School..
Republicans are concentrating on the Ford allegations...
[466] you really believe that those arguments are working on some level?
Of course.. You are doing ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to avoid talking about your acceptance of that scumbag's credibility...
Oooooo Mitchell makes a good point..
Even if this occurred, it would be an investigation done by local police...
FBI has no jurisdiction...
No.. The time to turn to the FBI for an investigation was in July of 2018...
Durbin is an asshole...
Asked and answered... Move on...
"Mr. Durban, I do as I've been told."
DAMN!!!!! Lindsey Graham is ON FIRE!!!!!
Oop. Here goes Graham. He loves being morally outraged.
OH MY GODS, Lindsey Graham is laying Democrats low in the ground!!
Graham is so full of shit. Trying to erase how bad Kavanaugh looked by refusing to allow an FBI investigation.
Oop. Here goes Graham. He loves being morally outraged.
Funny how you seemed to like it when he said things you want to hear...
Is that not hypocritical?
He's looking at Jeff Flake.
Is that not hypocritical?
Too agree with things that I agree with? No.
He's lying about boofed.
So, you like Lindsey Graham's moral outrage when he says what you like, but don't like it when he says what you don't like..
The very definition of hypocrisy...
Graham is so full of shit.
Except when Graham says stuff against President Trump..
THEN you LOVE what Graham says....
So, it appears that YOU are full of shit...
You STILL haven't provided ANY facts to support your claims..
He's lying about boofed.
FACTS to support???
Any facts at all???
I told you he would say the multiple "F's" were stuttering. He's lying.
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2018/09/24/he-said-they-said/#comment-128054
Graham busted the floodgates. Senators can't resist the opportunity to showboat.
Of course not..
You people NEVER have any facts...
Done for the night.....
I'm done too. She won the day. That's what matters.
Kavanaugh could have owned up to the fact that he drank to excess when he was growing up. He could have admitted that there were many nights that he got so drunk that he had no memory of what occurred. He could have said that while he has no recollection of committing the horrible acts he is accused of committing while he was drunk, he cannot say that he knows the accusations are untrue. He could say that just the thought that he could do something that heinous while drunk makes him sick. He could apologize to Dr. Ford and beg her forgiveness for how he harmed her. He could say that while he has no memory of the night or what occurred, he wants her to know that he is not the same person who did that horrible act and applaud her courage for coming forward with this information. He could apologize for all of the additional pain that coming forward has caused her. He could tell her that he knows that this experience will give him new insights into cases of sexual assaults that come before him in his role as a judge.
He could have done these things and I would not have had a problem with him being confirmed.
But he did NONE of these things. Not only should he not be confirmed, but he should be removed from the bench immediately.
If Trump watched the testimony on FoxNews, he’s not going to be happy with Kavanaugh being his pick for SCOTUS! Chris Wallace made it clear that the Republicans screwed this up majorly and stated how believable Dr. Ford was in her statements.
Tweet: I count three women visibly crying with headphones on in my subway car.
Lauren Goldenberg, Sep 27th, 2018
There are plenty of tweets in a similar vein.
This is a disaster for Republicans. What were they thinking? What is the win? Are they this scared that they won't be able to ram though somebody else before January even if the do lose the Senate in the midterms?
Given the choice of Kavanaugh or some creepy clone like Gorsach (who isn't a sexual predator), it is better for Democrats that the Republicans force though Kavanaugh tomorrow.
Every single vote where he and Thomas vote against women's interests will open up these wounds and motivate the left against Republicans.
I always thought that Republicans' worst nightmare was actually overturning Roe vs. Wade, but doing it with the help of Kavanaugh is going to be far worse.
They will lose their most potent weapon in the culture wars and be tied to an attempted rapist at the same time. Women don't tell these stories to other people lightly, but both my wife and my sister tells me that they just bout every women they know has had a similar experience, and keep it hidden and they still hurt.
WTF are Republicans thinking - they should have thrown this clown under the car last week.
Tweet: Every GOP campaign strategist and Hill staffer wishes they had the button to open the trap door under Rachel Mitchell’s chair. What a total and complete Political disaster for Republicans.
Steve Schmidt. 27 Sep 2018
Check out his other tweets - one Republican strategist gets just how bad this is playing.
Others from him today:
Lindsey’s staff should think about unlocking the case where they keep the emergency tranquilizer darts.
Every GOP campaign strategist and Hill staffer wishes they had the button to open the trap door under Rachel Mitchell’s chair. What a total and complete Political disaster for Republicans.
Got the cut/pste wrong - this was meant to be the last exampe from [497]:
This slow motion political self immolation by the GOP is a wonder to behold. They have served up to America a toxic cocktail of cowardice, bullying, tone deafness and just plain nonsense. Incredible as it may seem, they will make their situation even worse in the next days.
Despite all we've seen, the fact is, Kavanaugh has been dismissive, belligerent and a naked obfuscator. All things he's been accused of, and he's sober. He shot himself in the foot with his partisanship. That's all I have as a takeaway...
No way on earth this guy is going to reason supreme court cases based on constitutional consideration. None. The founders never imagined such a right-wing adherent, or left-wing for that matter.
A supreme court Judge has to enter into his or her role as impartial, Kavanaugh has yelled at committee that he blames the left-wing for all his troubles...
Disqualified.
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neilm
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Given the choice of Kavanaugh or some creepy clone like Gorsach (who isn't a sexual predator), it is better for Democrats that the Republicans force though Kavanaugh tomorrow.
Exactly this!
Like I was saying a week ago:
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JTC
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Very well said, JTC.
The guy lied under oath. Disqualified.
I think Lindsey Graham was auditioning for Attorney General.
[501] Just to make clear, I would feel the same way were the nominee a lib, med or con.
He made a mistake, he listened to Trump and invoked a conspiracy.
No one here will accuse me of being anything but reasonable where conspiracies are concerned, they are kin and kith to chaos for people who need that in their lives.
I told Michale yesterday that's a deal breaker for me, and he seemed to agree it is for him also. I'm not looking for anyone to toe my line of consistency, I merely point out the 'sauce for the Goose'.
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[502] I like Graham. But, his diatribe was for a specific audience, none of whom get a vote in this process. I wish he'd stop carrying Trump's water, a little... it'll be his political undoing if/when Trump hits the skids.
Politicians don't need to ensconce their ethics in the pocket of the leadership to display fealty, in fact, individual constituencies prefer their representatives to echo their sentiments... I don't think Graham's square on the map appreciate his kowtow, certainly the women won't. He's a brazen misogynist, by all accounts.
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@liz,
very sorry to hear it, but if that's your decision i understand.
JL
Well, I think I mean it this time, Joshua. :)
Far from getting better, this place appears to be on an unstoppable downward slide to the bottom. And, there doesn't seem to be anything that you and I can do about it without some, ahem, outside help. Which has not been forthcoming, up to now, at least.
I'll still be reading Chris's pieces, though, and I will respond to comments you make if I should have something worthwhile to say. Maybe we could even enjoy a discussion, now and then. :)