Program Note
There will be no column today, sorry. I've been trying to get the website's problems (which resulted in the site going dark on Monday morning) fully fixed, which is more complicated than it originally seemed. Hopefully, this will all be resolved soon. So far, it hasn't meant any further interruption in service on the site itself (all the problems are deep behind the scenes), and I'm fairly positive that we'll get through this weekend without the site going dark again. But it has taken up all my usual writing time today, so I apologize for the lack of a column. If I get things squared away I'll try to answer some comments on previous articles later on, to somewhat make up for things. Until then, thanks for your patience with the site, and sorry once again for the lack of a new column today.
-- Chris Weigant
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https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/495371-as-biden-struggles-hillary-waits-for-the-call
I should have known.
Biden is the best available candidate. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Actually, Biden is the best candidate.
At this point, given that the only other candidate is Trump, I have to agree.
That's just great, Dan.
Why am I the only one around here who knows who Biden is. WHY IS THAT!?
I mean, this is purportedly a sophisticated blog. Reality-based and in the know … NOT!
OPEN THREAD!!! WOOT!!!
:D
FPC,
DSWS,
There are few enough people who have worked as subordinates of any potential candidate, and false accusations are rare enough, that we should lean fairly heavily in favor of believing the accuser.
Logical.. But it's not a on size fits all.. As Blasey-Ford's bullshit proven all accusations do not stem solely from the subordinate/potential candidate pool...
Sometimes, Dems have to reach back to adolescents to find a willing patsy to accuse someone Dems want to take down..
I think that I would want Biden to withdraw from the race, even if I thought he were otherwise a good candidate.
Again, logical and rational...
Which proves why you are one of the rare Weigantians.. A person with more than 2 brain cells to rub together... :D
FPC,
Russ,
Last I checked, there was no requirement that Democrats MUST believe ALL women who make allegations against any powerful man!
Well, except for the fact that Democrats drilled it into EVERYONE'S head with the Blasey-Ford bullshit accusation that "ALL WOMEN ARE TO BE BELIEVED"
That was the Democrat incessant mantra for months..
But yea... Other than that, there is no requirement that Democrats must believe all women.. :eyeroll:
But that doesn’t mean I have to believe them!
According to Democrats when it's a GOP'er who is accused..
Yes.. You HAVE to believe them..
If a twenty year old female claims George Washington raped her last weekend when she visited his grave, why would I feel that I needed to believe her?
Because Democrats TOLD you that you MUST...
Funny you don't have a problem following Democrat Party orders when it's a GOP'er, eh??
You don't like the climate we have where ALL WOMEN ARE TO BE BELIEVED???
Tough.. It was your Dumbocrats who created that climate..
FPC
SF Bear,
EM (50) What nonsense? Who could possibly be worse than Michale?
Aawwwww Yer STILL saving that space for me in your head.. How schweeet.. :D
FPC,
(like not questioning either party directly prior to clearing the accused!).
That's because both parties have already given sworn statements AND been questioned over those sworn statements.
Questioning them again would be a waste of time..
DUH....
ESPECIALLY because it was clear that Blasey-Ford was full of shit and had a totally made up story...
Hell, her own friends and family said she was whacked in the head.. Those who knew her said she was the town drunk and the town slut...
But she was saying exactly what you wanted to hear, so you believed her..
And Tara Reade is relaying the facts that you DON'T want to hear.. So you don't BELIEVE her..
Your Party slavery is so predictable.. :eyeroll:
Liz,
As Bill Gates likes to say, if only the US had reacted in January and February as other countries did,
Dumbocrats were in the midst of politically assassinating President Trump... Any delay on the part of the US in this is solidly and completely the responsibility of the Democrat Party..
Funny how ya always want to ignore this fact..
Science, solutions, solidarity.
Science?? And yet you people bow to the hysterical rantings of a 14 yr old swedish girl.. :D
Funny....
Funny how Joe Biden was ALL about "transparency" re rape victims during the debates..
Biden's call for 'transparency' during Dem debate comes back to haunt him
Former Vice President Joe Biden had gone over a month without addressing the explosive sexual assault allegation made by his former Senate staffer Tara Reade, but he had quite a different tune during one of the Democratic debates earlier this year.
Back in February, during former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's underwhelming run for president, the billionaire businessman was pummelled by his competitors over not releasing former female employees from their non-disclosure agreements (NDA).
And while Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., is remembered for her fierce line of attacks at the two debates with Bloomberg, Biden also squeezed in some punches of his own.
"Let's get something straight here. It's easy. All the mayor has to do is say, 'You are released from the non-disclosure agreement. Period," Biden said in an edited clip preserved on his Twitter account. "This is about transparency from the very beginning. Whether it's your health records, whether it's your taxes, whether you have cases against you, whether or not people have signed non-disclosure agreements."
His shaming of Bloomberg continued, "You think that women, in fact, were ready to say, 'I don't want anybody to know about what you did to me.' That's not how it works. The way it works is they say, 'Look, this is what you did to me' and the mayor comes along and his attorneys say, 'I will give you this amount of money if you promise you'll never say anything. That's how it works.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-dem-debate-bloomberg-nda-tara-reade-transparency
Get that???
""This is about transparency from the very beginning. Whether it's your health records, whether it's your taxes, whether you have cases against you, whether or not people have signed non-disclosure agreements."
-Joe Biden
It's about "TRANSPARENCY", Joe Biden says..
So, of course, Joe Biden is going to release all his records regarding other rape criminal complaints, right???
Of course, Joe Biden REALLY means that it's all about transparency unless he is the one being accused..
THEN it's all about him hiding in his basement and hiding all the records and so on and so on..
Joe Biden is NOT acting like an innocent man, as Russ claims he is..
THIS IS FACT...
Joe Biden is acting like a man guilty of rape and is trying to hide from his crimes.. Literally...
Let me be clear: Mayor Bloomberg should release folks from their non-disclosure agreements. This is about transparency. The American people deserve to know the truth.
-Joe Biden, 20 Feb 2020
And look at Joe in May of 2020... Hiding in his basement and keeping his records hidden that would prove his guilt..
The American people deserve to know the FACTS, Joe Biden..
Let's see some of that transparency you kept harping on...
Well, well, well..
Word is Joe Biden is set to address these allegations today..
Betcha it's going to be some softball non-confrontational interview with Leslie Stall or Joy Berher...
10,000 quatloos Joe Biden faints.....
One thing is certain.. Joe Biden is going to make things worse with his gaffes and deer-in-the-headlights looks...
It wouldn't surprise me if he tried to sniff the interviewer's hair and nuzzle her ears...
DSWS,
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/495371-as-biden-struggles-hillary-waits-for-the-call
I should have known.
Yep..
How uncanny would it be if I won my bet with JL because HILLARY became the nominee.. :D heh
Liz,
Why am I the only one around here who knows who Biden is. WHY IS THAT!?
Fair enough..
Let's put that expert knowledge to good use..
If Biden is innocent, why has he been hiding in his basement this entire time... Why hasn't he addressed the Tara Reade accusation??
After incessantly calling for TRANSPARENCY from other candidates, why won't Joe Biden release his records??
These are fair, rational, non-nonsense questions..
Being that you are the Biden expert here, I would really love to hear your answers... :D
No, you wouldn't, actually.
Of course I would..
I have not doubt what those answers would be.. :D I have known you far too long not to know exactly what you'll say ...
:D
We have known each other for coming up on 16 years!! :D
Isn't that simply mind-boggling.. :D
Sen. Tammy Duckworth says sex assault allegations against Biden ‘deserve to be listened to’
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-tammy-duckworth-says-sex-assault-allegations-against-biden-deserve-to-be-listened-to
Where are the calls from Weigantians and Democrats to have the FBI investigate Biden and the rape criminal complaint???
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“Any woman who brings, or any man for that matter, who brings forward allegations of abuse, especially in the workplace, deserve to be listened to, and I certainly think that we need to thoroughly look at these allegations.”
-Senator Tammy Duckworth, Democrat
Funny how no one here (NEN) agrees with this Democrat...
Michale,
When you stop ranting and raving around here like a certifiable lunatic, that's when I'll put some time and energy into having a rational discussion with you, about anything.
When you stop ranting and raving around here like a certifiable lunatic,
You mean, like ya'all have been doing about Trump since Jun of 2015?? :D
Puulleeeese...
that's when I'll put some time and energy into having a rational discussion with you, about anything.
's OK.. I understand that some things are too painful to discuss..
But facts are facts...
And the fact is, Joe Biden has a rape criminal complaint hanging over him...
And it's universally agreed that he needs to address that rape criminal complaint..
Personally, honestly and decisively...
If he doesn't, he doesn't deserve to be the Democrat nominee, let alone President Of The United States..
These are the facts, whether you like them or not..
Michale,
Has there been an official complaint made with the proper authorities?
“Vice President Biden has dedicated his public life to changing the culture and the laws around violence against women. He authored and fought for the passage and reauthorization of the landmark Violence Against Women Act. He firmly believes that women have a right to be heard -- and heard respectfully. Such claims should also be diligently reviewed by an independent press.”
-Joe Biden Campaign
Yea.. Bill Clinton was great for women too...
He still raped them..
When it comes to Democrats, how "pro women" they are does not preclude them from being rapists..
One only has to look at Bill Clinton to know that this is factually accurate...
If so, I would assume that it has been investigated, no?
Has there been an official complaint made with the proper authorities?
Yes there has...
Tara Reade, who last month accused the former vice president and longtime senator of sexually assaulting her in 1993 while employed as one of his Senate staffers, told police that Biden “assaulted her in a Senate corridor, shoving his hand under her skirt and penetrating her with his fingers,” {{Textbook definition of rape}} Business Insider reported Saturday while also noting that the “statute of limitations for the alleged assault...
https://www.allsides.com/news/2020-04-13-0855/former-biden-staffer-files-criminal-complaint-dc-police
Did the dc police investigate?
If so, I would assume that it has been investigated, no?
Nope... Statute Of Limitations has expired..
There are only investigations after SOL when it's those who have a -R after their names are accused... :^/
So, you are saying that the police failed to do their job?
… because Biden is a Democrat!?
That's pretty funny.
Did the dc police investigate?
No.. Because the Statute Of Limitations had run out..
So, I'm confused. What is it that you think should be done here?
… because Biden is a Democrat!?
Yes.. Biden is a Democrat.. Which is why he wasn't investigated for this rape where the SOL had run out..
I don't understand why this concept is so hard to understand..
Now, if it's REPUBLICAN were accused, the SOL expiring wouldn't matter.. The Democrats would be screaming for the FBI to be all over it..
Again, it's an easy concept to understand..
So, I'm confused. What is it that you think should be done here?
The same thing ya'all screamed and yelled for when it was Blasey-Ford's bullshit accusations..
Which was what, exactly?
If the police can't investigate, who should?
"They aren’t true. This never happened."
-Joe Biden
So, despite all the broohaha about ALL WOMEN ARE TO BE BELIEVED and all the calls about transparency..
Joe Biden is calling Tara Reade a liar...
If the police can't investigate, who should?
They same people who Democrats screamed and yelled to investigate Kavanaugh....
So, you think the Reade accusation is "bullshit"?
You're not making a lot of sense here, Michale ...
They same people who Democrats screamed and yelled to investigate Kavanaugh....
I'm trying to understand what it is that you want.
You want the FBI to investigate? So what's the problem? Why don't they investigate it?
So, Biden is going to authorize that all his Senate papers be released to the public???
Nope.. Of course he won't..
What?
Are you saying that the rape is being covered up in his senate papers????
You lost me.
You want the FBI to investigate? So what's the problem? Why don't they investigate it?
Why aren't Democrats calling for an investigation??
Why aren't YOU calling for an investigation, as you did with Blasey-Ford's accusations???
THAT is the question here..
How does the FBI decide to investigate. After they hear public ranting and ravings!? Well, it doesn't surprise me ...
Are you saying that the rape is being covered up in his senate papers????
Yes, the complaint is.. Tara Reade's firing after she reported the rape is covered...
Just as the other sexual assault complaints are in those papers.
It's no wonder that Biden won't release those papers..
Hey, I'm officially calling for an investigation. I want an investigation into the Reade complaint and I want it now!
Do you think the FBI is listening?
How does the FBI decide to investigate. After they hear public ranting and ravings!?
No.. After they hear public ranting and ravings from Democrats..
Well, it doesn't surprise me ...
Agreed...
But, as I said.. Why isn't every Weigantian here calling for the FBI to investigate, as they did with Ford's accusations..
THAT is the question..
Oh, I see … Reade made a complaint to the Biden senate office.
Wait, she didn't complain to the police?
How does the law work in your country!
Hey, I'm officially calling for an investigation. I want an investigation into the Reade complaint and I want it now!
Good...
Do you think the FBI is listening?
Not to you or I..
But if Democrats are pressured enough by their constituents, maybe the will..
hehehe
Yea, I know... Hilarious...
Why does the FBI need to hear from Weigantia? I'm still confused about that.
How does the law work in your country!
These days?? Not very well...
Democrats have a stranglehold on the media and therefore can spin anything any way they want..
But the facts will come out.. You can bet on that..
Things are far worse for you than first imagined.
Why does the FBI need to hear from Weigantia?
The same reason they needed to hear from ya'all when Ford made her bullshit accusations..
A show of integrity...
I'm still confused about that.
No yer not.. Yer being intentionally obtuse in ignoring the obvious hypocrisy and double standard here...
Even JL acknowledged it..
Things are far worse for you than first imagined.
Wanna bet??? :D
Would that be the same double standard that you adhere to when the subject is Trump?
Personally, I couldn't care less about the accusations made against Trump.
But, you need to be consistent, pal.
Wanna bet???
Well, you said it yourself … "Democrats have a stranglehold on the media and therefore can spin anything any way they want..", says the king of spin. Heh.
:-)
Would that be the same double standard that you adhere to when the subject is Trump?
For example...???
But, you need to be consistent, pal.
I am.. ALL accusations should be investigated...
The accusations against President Trump have all been investigated..
Funny how they all disappeared once President Trump won the election.. :D
Well, you said it yourself … "Democrats have a stranglehold on the media and therefore can spin anything any way they want..", says the king of spin. Heh.
And yet, I have been 1000% factually accurate on every President Trump prediction..
Ya'all???
The exact opposite.. Ya'all have been 1000% factually WRONG on every President Trump prediction..
So, who exactly is spinning and who is exactly factually accurate?? :D
Tara Reade says Senate personnel complaint would prove Biden's former staff 'lied' to press
https://www.foxnews.com/media/tara-reade-senate-personnel-complaint-will-prove-biden-staff-lied
Release your records, Joe...
What are you afraid of??
What are you hiding??
Liz,
Should Tara Reade's rape criminal complaint be investigated by Law Enforcement authorities???
Reade alleges that back in 1993, she had made informal complaints about the then-Delaware senator's unwanted touching to Biden's chief-of-staff Ted Kaufman, as well as Marianne Baker, his executive assistant, but waited until after the alleged assault to file an external sexual harassment complaint.
Soon after, Kaufman, along with deputy chief-of-staff Dennis Toner, informed Reade to find work elsewhere, she told Fox News.
"I was told I was no longer, I was not a good fit. And that I had a month to find a job," Reade told Fox News about a conversation she had with Kaufman and Toner. "And I said, 'Well, you stripped all of my duties. So what do I put?' You know. And Dennis Toner said, 'Put special projects.'"
But not only did Baker, Kaufman and Toner deny recalling such conversations they had with Reade, but Kaufman and Toner told The New York Times that they didn't even know her.
“I did not know her. She did not come to me. If she had, I would have remembered her," Kaufman recently told The Times.
Toner similarly told the paper: “I don’t remember her. I don’t remember this conversation. And I would remember this conversation.”
However, Reade told The Daily Caller that her complaint would prove that both Kaufman and Toner “lied on the record.”
Release the records, Joe...
Why are you afraid to???
Someone is lying..
Releasing the records will prove who..
The fact that Joe Biden could prove this once and for all and he chooses NOT to... is nearly proof positive that HE and his former staff are the ones lying..
EVERY accusation against President Trump has been vetted, scrutinized and gone over with the finest of fine tooth combs..
Democrats should apply that exact same standard to Joe Biden..
True or false??
SILENCE GIVES ASSENT :D
I miss Paula.. She was a lot of fun.. :D
Now, Reade wants those documents to be available to the public.
"I'm calling for the release of the documents being held by the University of Delaware that contain Biden's staff personnel records because I believe it will have my complaint form, as well as my separation letter and other documents," Reade has told Fox News. "Maybe if other staffers that have tried to file complaints would come to light -- why are they under seal? And why won't they be released to the public?"
The editorial board of The Washington Post joined that call, urging Biden on Wednesday to address the allegations and "release relevant records."
Release the records, Joe Biden..
What are you hiding??
so far reade hasn't officially named her accuser. i wonder, is it possible the experience she had was real but the offender was someone other than joe himself?
damn, morning fogginess. not accuser, alleged perp
but given the evidence we have so far, it's a reasonable hypothesis.
How does the law work in your country!
Adversarially, and with severe conflation of process and outcome.
A prosecutor or a prospective plaintiff starts the paperwork to bring a case to court. The prospective defendant is thereby being threatened not with the possibility of an adverse verdict, but with the prospect of having to go through the legal proceedings. The lawyers for both sides then draft a settlement. The side most capable of paying lawyers is the winner. Normal people are protected from civil suits mostly by the fact that we're not rich enough to be worth suing.
The criminal process runs on economies of scale. Prosecutors decide what deals to offer, loosely based on the likely outcomes of possible cases. Defendants then have to agree to those deals, or suffer a legal process far more onerous than whatever penalty might be imposed. The only cases that go to trial are those where the the defendant is extraordinarily resistant to the good advice of their lawyers, and those where some aspect of the case is literally unprecedented.
@dan,
well, yeah... except in the VERY well-precedented case of someone being prosecuted who didn't actually commit a crime.
This is just painful to watch...
https://youtu.be/JMZ5J82y-4k
I believe I predicted a DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS event from Joe Biden..
There it is..
Joe Biden just sealed his fate... He will not be President Of The United States..
except in the VERY well-precedented case of someone being prosecuted who didn't actually commit a crime.
Brett Kavanaugh comes to mind..
The Democrats and their faux impeachment coup is another example..
Joe: This never happened. I don't know why she's saying it. Biden finally breaks silence to deny sexual assault allegation by former staffer and asks National Archives to open his personnel files - but WON'T open his personal archive
Joe Biden denied an assault allegation by a former Senate staffer
'They aren't true. This never happened,' Biden said in a statement
Biden told MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski that he doesn't remember any complaint at the time Tara Reade alleges it happened
'I don't remember any type of complaint she may have made. It was 27 years ago,' he said on 'Morning Joe'
He said her claims should be investigated
'At the end of the day, it has to be looked at. These claims are not true. They are not true,' Biden said in a 20 minute interview on the allegation
The presumptive Democratic nominee has been facing pressure to address an assault claim made by his former Senate staffer, Tara Reade
She accused Biden of putting his hand down her skirt in a Congressional hallway in 1993
This week she also suggested the media was burying her story with no major outlet except Fox News Channel inviting her to do an on-air interview
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8277641/This-never-happened-Joe-Biden-denies-sexual-assault-allegation-former-Senate-staffer.html
The fact that Biden won't open the Senate archives???
PROVES Joe Biden has something to hide...
ALL WOMEN ARE TO BE BELIEVED
-Democrat Party Mantra
That means **ALL** women...
Not just the women who's accusations are politically motivated and/or politically advantageous...
the kavanaugh accusation happened in a much more normal way - someone who was mostly out of the public eye gains national attention, and someone from their past who nobody has ever heard of comes forward with accusations of misconduct. one of the many weird things about tara reade's stories is the number of times they have changed.
nonetheless, it's been a very effective strategy from a campaign standpoint, right out of the karl rove mold. something people often forget about the original swift-boating was that it successfully attacked john kerry's greatest strength, his decorated military service. whether it's bernie's campaign, donald's campaign, or reade acting as a lone wolf, it was a brilliant tactical move. character has historically been biden's greatest strength, and in one fell swoop these allegations have put doubt in voters' minds about biden's character.
JL
Agreed
And, let's face reality..
By ignoring this issue for so long, by being quoted about FULL TRANSPARENCY in the past and refusing to release his records now..
Joe Biden is not helping his case at all..
Did you watch the Mika Brezenski video??
My gods, the blank stare did Biden irreparable harm...
Unanswered questions? Biden's response to Tara Reade accusations leaves many wanting more answers
https://www.foxnews.com/media/unanswered-questions-biden-response-tara-reade-accusations
Joe's blank stare sunk any possible credibility he might have had in addressing the Tara Reade rape criminal complaint...
i watched it, without sound and then with. it honestly didn't look like a blank stare to me. what i saw was him looking into the camera, frowning and slightly shaking his head. what about his body language looked deer-in-headlights to you?
“He, for example, did not address the fact that multiple people have come forward to say that Reade told them about the allegation. He claimed that there’s absolutely zero chance a complaint could’ve made its way into the files at the University of Delaware. And he changed the essence of the Democratic standard on sexual assault — ‘believe women’ or ‘believe all women’ does not mean ‘women have the right to come forward,’ and he knows it.”
Very good point..
Biden's story is that all women have a right to be heard..
But that's a no-brainer and not even CLOSE to being the issue..
The issue is that up until recently, Joe Biden believed that "ALL WOMEN ARE TO BE BELIEVED"...
Now that HE is the one being accused, NOW Joe Biden says the issue is "ALL WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD"...
Typical Dumbocrat mis-direction and deflection...
"We appreciate Vice President Biden finally addressing Tara Reade's allegations. These allegations deserve a rigorous investigation, and we urge Vice President Biden to release any and all records that may be relevant, including those housed at the University of Delaware, in addition to any Senate records housed at the National Archives. We urge him, his campaign, and former staff to cooperate fully and provide complete transparency."
-Heather Drevna, RAINN
Com'on Joe... You demanded full transparency from De BlowHole...
Shouldn't you meet the same standard??
What are you afraid of??
Why are you hiding???
de blowhole? are you referring to one NYC mayor while meaning the other?
this may have been lost in the deluge of our friend michale returning to bless us with his perspective, so i'll repeat for those who may not have read: is it possible the experience tara reade had was real but the offender was someone other than joe himself?
this may have been lost in the deluge of our friend michale returning to bless us with his perspective, so i'll repeat for those who may not have read: is it possible the experience tara reade had was real but the offender was someone other than joe himself?
Yea.. Many on the Right suggested that with Blasey-Ford's bullshit accusations..
Did ya'all buy it then???
Nope...
de blowhole? are you referring to one NYC mayor while meaning the other?
There is only one who is referred to as DeBlowHole
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=5lasXtCzBcSIggeF24eADw&q=DeBlowHole&oq=DeBlowHole&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIECAAQDTIECAAQDTIECAAQDTIECAAQDTIECAAQDTIECAAQDTIECAAQDTIECAAQDTIECAAQDTIECAAQDVCfBlifBmCzDWgAcAB4AIABbYgBbZIBAzAuMZgBAKABAqABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjQvuGHk5PpAhVEhOAKHYXtAfAQ4dUDCAk&uact=5
this may have been lost in the deluge of our friend michale returning to bless us with his perspective,
Awwwww... I am blessing ya'all.. :D How sweet.. :D heh
diblasio and bloomberg both ran for president, but bloomberg was the one criticized for his NDA's
Yea.. Many on the Right suggested that with Blasey-Ford's [story]..
the key difference being that prior to that she hadn't made any public comments whatsoever. true or false, blasey-ford told only one story.
JL
also different in blasey-ford's account is that she initially requested it not to be made public at all.
Twitter seems to think having Representative Amash, enter as a third-party presidential candidate would be good for President Trump and bad for Vice President Biden. This was from both liberals, and Republicans opposed to the President.
I suppose it would depend on the number of disaffected Republicans who vote for him that would otherwise hold their noses and vote for their lesser of two evils. I suspect it will be a wash or slightly favor the Vice President.
Guy
diblasio and bloomberg both ran for president, but bloomberg was the one criticized for his NDA's
I stand corrected..
the key difference being that prior to that she hadn't made any public comments whatsoever. true or false, blasey-ford told only one story.
Doesn't make it any more factual...
also different in blasey-ford's account is that she initially requested it not to be made public at all.
Yea, that was the claim.. Wholly unsubstantiated..
Yea, that was the claim.. Wholly unsubstantiated..
the letter was substantiated - read and transcribed by a source who had the letter, to CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/16/politics/blasey-ford-kavanaugh-letter-feinstein/index.html
BG,
Twitter seems to think having Representative Amash, enter as a third-party presidential candidate would be good for President Trump and bad for Vice President Biden. This was from both liberals, and Republicans opposed to the President.
There are really no fence-straddlers for President Trump..
People are either all in with him wholly and unequivocally or hate him with a passion...
So, I doubt that Amash would pull any President Trump voters away from Trump..
On the other hand, there are a LARGE group of Trump/America haters who will do anything to NOT vote President Trump.. And many of those will not want to vote for Biden.. Either because of being a Bernie Bro (MC where ARE you!??) or because they don't want to vote for a rapist..
Those many MANY voters will vote for Amash instead of Biden..
Ergo, Twitter is likely accurate..
ANYONE who does a 3rd Party run will put MANY more votes away from the Dem nominee rather than President Trump..
Oh...
"Welcome to the party, pal!!!!"
-John McClane, DIE HARD
:D
Doesn't make it any more factual...
true, but it does have some bearing on credibility. someone who has only told one story tends to be more credible than someone who has changed their story multiple times on multiple topics.
like the timing issue, it's not huge on its own, but in combination with other factors; like changing a car trip to a plane trip, or the horse rescue accusations, or going from virulently anti-putin to adoringly pro-putin, to slightly anti-putin again when the biden story broke, it all makes reade less credible than blasey ford.
JL
one other area i agree is that the "believe all women" mantra is and always has been problematic. i understand where it came from, but it's a gigantic overreaction to the prior status quo of women barely ever being believed when they reported sex crimes against anyone white cis male hetero.
true, but it does have some bearing on credibility.
Just like Tara Reade's friends and family who supported her rape criminal complaint has bearing on the credibility...
Right??
one other area i agree is that the "believe all women" mantra is and always has been problematic.
It has...
But my claims of such fell on deaf ears during the Kavanaugh lynching..
but it's a gigantic overreaction to the prior status quo of women barely ever being believed when they reported sex crimes against anyone white cis male hetero.
Yep.. I said much the same thing at the time of the Kavanaugh...
It was actively disputed by the Weigantian Peanut Gallery..
Just another time (amongst many) where everyone (NEN) was wrong and I was dead on ballz factual... :D
Just like Tara Reade's friends and family who supported her [story]* has bearing on the credibility...
yes, all available evidence should be considered.
* i really wish you'd quit using inaccurate terms because they weaken your argument rather than strengthening it.
* i really wish you'd quit using inaccurate terms because they weaken your argument rather than strengthening it.
Except it is an accurate term..
Reade did file a rape criminal complaint..
Tara Reade, who last month accused the former vice president and longtime senator of sexually assaulting her in 1993 while employed as one of his Senate staffers, told police that Biden “assaulted her in a Senate corridor, shoving his hand under her skirt and penetrating her with his fingers,” {{Textbook definition of rape}} Business Insider reported Saturday while also noting that the “statute of limitations for the alleged assault...
https://www.allsides.com/news/2020-04-13-0855/former-biden-staffer-files-criminal-complaint-dc-police
Business Insider is a reputable media source...
Neil established that a long time ago..
Reposted for clarity..
* i really wish you'd quit using inaccurate terms because they weaken your argument rather than strengthening it.
Except it is an accurate term..
Reade did file a rape criminal complaint..
Tara Reade, who last month accused the former vice president and longtime senator of sexually assaulting her in 1993 while employed as one of his Senate staffers, told police that Biden “assaulted her in a Senate corridor, shoving his hand under her skirt and penetrating her with his fingers,” {{Textbook definition of rape}} Business Insider reported Saturday while also noting that the “statute of limitations for the alleged assault...
https://www.allsides.com/news/2020-04-13-0855/former-biden-staffer-files-criminal-complaint-dc-police
Business Insider is a reputable media source...
Neil established that a long time ago..
[75] nypoet22 wrote:
@dan,
well, yeah... except in the VERY well-precedented case of someone being prosecuted who didn't actually commit a crime.
Except? Are you saying that the innocent aren't pressured into taking plea deals, only the guilty?
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is it possible the experience tara reade had was real but the offender was someone other than joe himself?
All sorts of stuff is possible. It's possible that she's utterly delusional. It's possible that she's cynically acting as a Russian agent.
It's possible that I'll wake up to find that it's 2017, Martin O'Malley has just been inaugurated, and this was all just a nightmare. But it seems implausible. She knew whose office she worked at. It would be odd to confuse that.
One scenario that seems at least somewhat plausible is that it happened, and it was him, but she gave enough encouragement that he reasonably believed it to be consensual, and she's making it sound like more than it was.
So.. Dan.. JL...
Did you see the Mika interview??
What's yer thoughts on the Joe Biden/Deer In The Headlights???
Kinda seals his fate, eh?? :D
"Closing Time... One last call for alcohol so finish yer whiskey or beer...
Closing Time... You don't have to go home but you can't stay here...."
See ya'all in the AM.. :D
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Oh, Dan … thanks so much for the law lesson.
So, what do you think, Dan … is Biden capable of sexual assault and harassment?
Give me everything you've got - there's no word limit here, you know.
And, what about you, Michale? Do you think he did it?
Don't disappoint me with a non-answer, Michale - what do YOU really think?
You guys know what the clincher is on the Tara Reade assault allegation? It's the woman's account of his response to her objection. She quotes him as responding, "Come on man, I heard you liked me!?
That response is such a quintessential Biden-ism, she just can't be making that up!!
Actually, that's a dead giveaway that she is lying.
JL [80],
Kavanaugh was the focus of Senate hearings to determine if he should be confirmed to a seat on the SCOTUS. Because it is a lifelong appointment, it was proper for the information to come up at the time it did.
Biden should just put this whole thing to rest by stating:
“I did not sexually assault this woman. I do not know her and therefore I am unable to offer a reason why she would make such a dishonest accusation against me. I see no reason to continue addressing this issue from this point on as the subject is moot and doesn’t warrant any more of my time.
I have stated that what Ms.Reade has accused me of doing never happened. It did not occur. I cannot expound any further on a subject matter that never existed.”
If reporters want more, Biden should say that he’ll be happy to follow through with everything they get Trump to do in responding to his accusers.
“I did not sexually assault this woman. I do not know her and therefore I am unable to offer a reason why she would make such a dishonest accusation against me. I see no reason to continue addressing this issue from this point on as the subject is moot and doesn’t warrant any more of my time.
Didn't he just say that?
I guess the only thing left for him to do is have some independent body or, perhaps, even the University of Delaware itself, to search for any mention of Reade amongst the documents that Biden gave to the university.
Having said that, it is clear why some would want total transparency with regard to Biden's senate papers and that is to do harm to his presidential bid based on policy stances, speeches, interviews than can easily be taken out of context as we have already seen.
[64] Michale wrote:
"The accusations against President Trump have all been investigated..
Funny how they all disappeared once President Trump won the election.. :D"
NOT TRUE ON BOTH COUNTS
1) The lawsuit by former campaign staffer, Alva Johnson, who claims that Trump forcibly kissed her at a rally in Florida in August 2016, is still pending and going forward.
2) The defamation lawsuit raised by Summer Zervos which arose from Trump's statement that she lied about sexual assault allegations against him is still pending and moving forward. Zervos was a former contestant on "The Apprentice" and cell phone records of Trump's telephone call to Zervos were just released in December of 2019.
3) The defamation lawsuit raised by E. Jean Carroll which arose from Trump's denials of her accusation that he sexually assaulted her more than 20 years ago damaged her reputation is still active also. This is the assault that happened in a dressing room in a department store in NYC. This is also the suit involving a request for a sample of Trump's DNA.
Criminal charges in ALL cases are on HOLD ONLY WHILE Trump holds the Office of President.
@dan,
that the incident could've happened with someone else is a lot more than "possible" - or at least a lot more plausible than most of the other scenarios you posited. as i've heard stories like that from about a third of the women i've been close friends with over the years, i just meant to ask folks to gauge the overall likelihood that her memory is real but joe wasn't the guy (reserving judgment on whether her coming forward might be a cynical ploy or a genuine delusion)
JL
Mike
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There are really no fence-straddlers for President Trump..
Damn, you really are dumber than a damn rock... no doubt about that at all. Yes, there really are fence-straddlers for Trump.
People are either all in with him wholly and unequivocally or hate him with a passion...
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. As per your usual.