Too Little, Too Late From Twitter
Twitter is at the heart of a storm of controversy today, and rightly so. It just made a timid move to better its own public standing, but it is far too little and far too late to really stem the tide of deserved criticism they're now receiving. Twitter is, to be blunt, scared of President Donald Trump and his legions of followers. So they've allowed him to get away with tweeting pretty much anything that pops into his head, no matter how false or downright destructive his words prove to be. Now, perhaps, they're beginning to pay a price for this timidity in the court of public opinion.
Trump spent Memorial Day weekend playing golf and venting his spleen on Twitter. Long forgotten were all the times Trump had taken to Twitter to castigate Barack Obama for golfing (even during a medical crisis), because of course the standards Trump holds others to never, ever apply to him. One thread of particularly vicious tweets from Trump this weekend targeted Joe Scarborough, a favorite Trump punching bag. Trump dredged up a fully-debunked conspiracy theory that, years ago when he was a congressman, Scarborough may have been involved in the death of an aide. Spoiler alert: he wasn't. Scarborough was 900 miles away from the incident at the time, and the autopsy showed the woman had fainted and hit her head on a desk when she fell. But that makes no difference to Trump, who fanned the flames of the conspiracy theory all weekend.
Her widower, who has up until now refused to comment publicly about any of the conspiracy theorists (in fear of getting personally hounded, the way so many others have), finally had had enough, so he wrote a heartfelt letter to the head of Twitter begging him to take down Trump's false and incendiary tweets. Twitter refused to do so. They put out a mealy-mouthed statement about how they were "updating" their standards and might be able to do something later on, but that they were "sorry" about not being able to do anything about Trump's tweets. This was woefully inadequate, obviously.
Then later today, in a move designed to take at least some of the heat off them, Twitter -- for the first time ever -- slapped a warning label on a few Trump tweets, indicating that they were flat-out lies. However, the tweets in question had to do with Trump spreading another conspiracy theory, that voting by mail somehow equated to rampant election fraud by Democrats. Spoiler alert: it doesn't. So Twitter finally put a warning label on a few Trump tweets, which (as I started with) is nothing short of too little, too late. No warning labels have appeared on any of the Scarborough conspiracy theory tweets by Trump. And Trump has faced no disciplinary action from Twitter that anyone is aware of.
This is nothing short of cowardly and shameful corporate behavior. Facebook, another social media company, had similar problems years ago and took proactive steps to clamp down on dangerous falsehoods being spread on their platform. Twitter has taken no such actions. Twitter does indeed have a code of behavior posted on its site, but it is one that Donald Trump regularly violates with impunity. In fact, I wrote about this a year and a half ago, and nothing much has changed in the meantime. Perhaps now, with a very sympathetic victim of Trump's vicious lies publicly calling on Twitter to rethink their lack of action, public opinion will turn against Twitter to such an extent that they'll be forced to act. They've already taken a baby step in that direction, so perhaps if the outrage grows in the media and online, they'll see that their continued lack of policing Trump has become a threat to their own bottom line. Perhaps.
That earlier article I wrote made this case in great detail, which is why I'm appending the entire thing below. Now is the time to bring all the pressure to bear on the leaders of Twitter, because their current position -- that Trump is a "public figure" and therefore his tweets serve some sort of "public purpose" -- is truly indefensible, when you look at the content of Trump's actual tweets.
Why Is Trump Still Allowed On Twitter?
Originally published January 15, 2019
Today, the United States House of Representatives passed a resolution condemning racism and white supremacy. They felt the need to do so because one of its members was recently quoted by a journalist pondering how "white supremacy" had become such a negative term. Tomorrow, the House may vote on censuring Representative Steve King directly. His own Republican caucus has stripped him of all his committee assignments as well.
This is all to the good, of course. Even hinting at supporting white supremacy should be absolutely disqualifying for any American politician, in this day and age. But many are left wondering why King was able to get away with his vitriol for so long. He's got a long history of making what can only be called racist statements, after all. In all this time, Republicans never stripped him of his committee assignments or, for that matter, even acknowledged the racism in their own ranks. The current feigned GOP outrage smacks of too little, too late.
Which brings me to a related subject. Because while King's remarks were pretty blatantly racist, he certainly isn't alone in denigrating people who don't happen to look like him. In fact, the leader of his party does so all the time, and President Donald Trump rarely gets any kind of pushback from those in his party for doing so. So why the double standard?
Of course, the answer to that question is "politics." Most Republicans see little political benefit in condemning Trump's equally blatant racism, although at times Trump goes so far that they do feel the need to weakly suggest that he maybe not say such things out loud. But that's about as far as it goes.
Asking politicians to condemn one of their own is one thing. But what about Trump's habit of making racist and offensive statements on Twitter? Why, in other words, is Trump still allowed on Twitter when he regularly and egregiously breaks their code of conduct?
Twitter is not the government. It is a corporation. A private entity. The government is prohibited from censorship. Corporations, however, can censor anything they don't approve of. Which they regularly do, in fact. Twitter bans people all the time. So why does Trump get a gigantic free pass from them?
Here are a few excerpts from Twitter's code of conduct that show how Trump breaks their rules, sometimes on a daily (or even hourly) basis:
Hateful conduct:
You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease. We also do not allow accounts whose primary purpose is inciting harm towards others on the basis of these categories.
While that last sentence is debatable (Trump does do other things on Twitter, after all), his violation of the first sentence is pretty plain to see. In fact, he's violated pretty much every single one of those categories since he entered politics. And Twitter promises that such behavior will not be tolerated:
We are committed to combating abuse motivated by hatred, prejudice or intolerance, particularly abuse that seeks to silence the voices of those who have been historically marginalized. For this reason, we prohibit behavior that targets individuals with abuse based on protected category.
Except when Trump does it, it seems. This isn't the only rule Trump regularly ignores, either. Consider the following Twitter regulation, in relation to all of Trump's tweets about "the caravan" and "illegals" heading towards our southern border:
Inciting fear about a protected category
We prohibit targeting individuals with content intended to incite fear or spread fearful stereotypes about a protected category, including asserting that members of a protected category are more likely to take part in dangerous or illegal activities, e.g., "all [religious group] are terrorists".
Or such as: "the caravan is filled with dangerous criminals," perhaps? But this isn't even the rule that Trump violates the most. That would have to be:
Repeated and/or non-consensual slurs, epithets, racist and sexist tropes, or other content that degrades someone
We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes, or other content that intends to dehumanize, degrade, or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category. This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgendered individuals.
You wouldn't have to look too hard to find multiple examples of Trump falling afoul of this rule, because he does it so often. Pick any week since Trump has been in office, and the chances are you'd find more than one blatant example of Trump dehumanizing, degrading, or reinforcing negative and harmful stereotypes about one category or another. So why does Twitter allow him to get away with it without even a single warning? Any other citizen who tweeted exactly the same thing Trump does would have been banned a long time ago, in other words.
You don't even have to look far into the past to find such behavior. Here's another Twitter rule that Trump just violated in the past day:
References to mass murder, violent events, or specific means of violence where protected groups have been the primary targets or victims
We prohibit targeting individuals with content that references forms of violence or violent events where a protected category was the primary target or victims, where the intent is to harass. This includes, but is not limited to sending someone:
- media that depicts victims of the Holocaust;
- media that depicts lynchings
From an article in HuffPost today:
Trump made fun of an Instagram video post by [Senator Elizabeth] Warren, a 2020 presidential candidate, in her kitchen. "If Elizabeth Warren, often referred to by me as Pocahontas, did this commercial from Bighorn or Wounded Knee instead of her kitchen, with her husband dressed in full Indian garb, it would have been a smash," Trump mocked on Twitter.
This isn't the first time Trump has used the slur "Pocahontas" against Warren, of course. But it is the first time that he's mentioned Little Bighorn and Wounded Knee. The first was where a Native American group fought a battle against the U.S. Army and won (Custer's Last Stand). The second, however, was nothing short of a massacre, where American armed forces slaughtered hundreds of women and children in cold blood. It was, in short, a mass murder, as well as being "a violent event where a protected category were the primary victims." Trump's intent of this tweet was pretty plainly to harass Warren. In other words, a particularly blatant violation of Twitter's code of conduct.
Native Americans are outraged, as the HuffPost article fully documents. They have every right to be. But they should channel their outrage not only at Donald Trump, but also at Twitter itself. How can the company continue to allow the president to get away with such racism and hatred on a regular basis? These aren't borderline cases in any way -- Trump willfully and repeatedly violates numerous rules that all other Twitter users are supposed to abide by, with the threat of their account being deleted if they don't.
Perhaps it is time for the House to address this situation. Call the leaders of Twitter to a hearing, and spend the entire hearing just quoting Trump tweets to them. Ask, after every one is read: "Does this violate the Twitter code of conduct? Why or why not?" Then further press them on why Donald Trump is allowed to ignore the rules when everyone else is expected to follow them.
Twitter, like the GOP politicians who listened to Steve King's rantings for years without acting, knows that taking action against Trump would cause a political firestorm. If they held Trump to the standards that everyone else is supposed to follow, he'd have his account suspended a few times and then would be unceremoniously kicked off the platform forever. This would lead to howls of outrage from his fans and followers, of course, which is probably what Twitter is so scared of.
But that shouldn't stop them from doing the right thing. They've allowed a double standard for Trump long enough. Trump tramples all over their code of conduct on a regular and continuing basis. There is no excuse for why Twitter allows this situation to continue, just as there is no excuse for why Republicans stayed so silent for so long on Steve King's racism. Donald Trump should have to follow the same rules of civility that everyone else is expected to follow on Twitter. And if he can't do so, his account should be deleted. Period.
-- Chris Weigant
Follow Chris on Twitter: @ChrisWeigant
I remember reading your earlier piece on Twitter and the president, and agreeing with it, in theory. In theory, because I don't use Twitter and I never read the president's tweets - when they are quoted in reportage or commentary, I skip to what follows, knowing I'll end up learning what he said anyway but at least not hearing or reading that nasty, nasty voice again. (Just as I do on the radio - when I realize I'm about to hear him saying something on NPR, I switch to progressive rock or the like until I know the danger has passed.)
And here we are, with a grieving widower begging for justice, wondering whether this time will be different, when we know it won't. I love the fantasy of the Dems in the House shaming, or trying to shame, Twitter execs, but it won't work. To hope so is to hope that the national press is going to stop sending reporters to hear his speeches or his office's press conferences, or stop reporting his every statement on the front pages and top of the feeds.
At this point (and frankly, a hell of a lot earlier, like early 2016), we know everything he says is a lie, or should be treated as one until confirmed as truth by some other official with proven credibility. So nothing he says needs to be on the nation's conversational menu - only what he does: actual actions, actual deeds, actual legislation, regulation, nominations. Those are facts which must be reported. The rest, not just Twitter but all of it, should be ignored and buried by any media outlet that still wants people to believe it actually reports the truth.
A hearing by the House would still be a good idea. It's the one way to force Dorsey to answer in public.
Yep, just as Trump is above the law, he's apparently above Twitter law as well. Sigh.
I long for the day that Trump's Twitter outrages backfire on him like his coronavirus briefings.
CW: Now, perhaps, they're beginning to pay a price for this timidity in the court of public opinion.
Yes, sir... and they've pissed off God, as well.
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If you'd like to join in with the public outcry, please follow the link below to God on Twitter and kindly retweet.
https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/1265347622660739072
#JusticeForCarolyn is already trending. :)
I was puzzled by Kick's series of tweets about 'Justice for Carolyn', and found this article in Inquisitr about this latest attempt to spoof Trump. This quote the article more or less makes clear what's going on:
“I don’t care that Donald Trump didn’t really murder Carolyn Gombell,” tweeted that political analysis site Palmer Report. “I don’t care that Carolyn Gombell doesn’t even exist. I’m still demanding #JusticeForCarolyn because why the hell not? If Trump can demand investigations into imaginary murders, the rest of us can too!”
I imagine this won't go anywhere, because the president's opponents are honest enough to admit they're spreading slime to prove a point, not because they believe it, while the president's base has been told for years that anything negative about him is a lie propagated by the lying liberal media.
Source: https://www.inquisitr.com/6076275/donald-trump-carolyn-gombell/
John M from Ct.
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What do they mean she "doesn't even exist"!? Lots of people are saying it, John! Trump had her name completely scrubbed from the Internet, and the fact they can't find her mentioned anywhere is all the more proof that she exists!
It’s a very suspicious thing, and I hope somebody gets to the bottom of it. It'll be a very good thing.
Question: I don't use insulin. Should I be? Huh? I never thought about it. But I know a lot of people are very badly affected, right?
did she like pie?
She loved pie. Lots of people are saying it.
I just won a bet with myself..
I bet myself that no one here of any import would mention how Joe Biden just lost the General Election and handed the win to President Donald Trump on a silver platter...
Just like Romney with his 47% gaffe and Hillary with her deplorables gaffe, Joe Biden's Waterloo was telling black Americans that if they are wondering who to vote for, then they ain't really black...
Way ta go, Joe.. You just pissed off every black American and insured that President Trump will win re-election by a huge landslide..
Because it's a stone cold fact that Democrats can't win anything without the black vote..
By condescending and talking down to black Americans, Biden totally dissed the Democrats' largest constituency...
You people better get used to saying President Trump for another 4 years...
Biden Reelected Trump Last Friday
The former VP’s patronizing remark was no jest and it was fatal to his campaign.
Usually, it’s necessary to wait until after a presidential election is over before it becomes possible to identify the point at which the dynamics of the contest began to favor the eventual winner. Occasionally, however, the turning point is blindingly obvious. President Reagan’s 1984 reelection, for example, was all but assured when Walter Mondale included a promise to raise taxes in his speech accepting the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination. Likewise, former Vice President Joe Biden almost certainly handed the 2020 election to President Trump last Friday when he told an African-American interviewer, “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
https://spectator.org/biden-reelected-trump-last-friday/
I correctly predicted that Hillary's deplorable gaffe would lose her the election..
Now I am predicting that Biden's "You ain't black" gaffe will be Biden's downfall...
Friday, Biden’s campaign first attempted to clean up the mess by claiming that the remark was a joke. This was the line taken by Symone Sanders, a senior adviser to the Biden campaign who tweeted, “The comments made at the end of the Breakfast Club interview were in jest, but let’s be clear about what the VP was saying: he was making the distinction that he would put his record with the African American community up against Trump’s any day.” This balderdash quite literally fails the laugh test. President Trump’s pre-pandemic job creation initiatives and criminal justice reform have done more for blacks in three years than Joe Biden accomplished in half a century backstroking around the swamp.
After it became clear that the “just kidding” strategy wasn’t selling, Sanders simply refused to answer further questions. When NBC’s Chuck Todd, not exactly a purveyor of GOP talking points, tried to ask her a question about the issue she interrupted him thus: “Chuck, I’m not going to do this. Chuck, I’m not going to do this.” Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) was less reticent: “Joe Biden’s comments are the most arrogant and condescending thing I’ve heard in a very long time. I am offended but not surprised.” Nor was Michigan GOP Senate candidate John James who, like Sen. Scott, is black. Indeed, the latter was moved to explain what really motivates the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee:
The Democratic Party has taken the black vote for granted for decades, but on Friday former Vice President Joe Biden took this view to a new and very hurtful level.… Biden has shown clearly that he thinks he knows better than black people what is best for us, and that if we don’t support him we are denying our own racial identity and heritage. Worse, I don’t see Biden’s Democratic colleagues holding him accountable for his comments. Instead, I hear silence.… Biden’s views have been exposed and stand in stark contrast to President Trump, who visited Michigan Thursday and actually listened to the needs of black people from black people.
The blame cannot be FULLY put onto Joe Biden..
Democrats have been screwing over black Americans for decades now.. Compare and contrast that to the VERY REAL progress President Trump and the GOP has made in helping black Americans pre-Pandemic...
Joe Biden simply stated out loud what Democrats have been muttering for decades..
If you don't vote Democrat, you ain't really black..
Nice attitude for the Democrats. They are all take take take from black Americans and haven't done squat for black Americans...
And, just to point out another prediction I made that has come to pass...
Rose McGowan slams New York Times reporter over alleged Tara Reade questions
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rose-mcgowan-slams-new-york-times-reporter-over-questions-allegedly-sent-tara-reade
Tara Reade is NOT going away...
Between Joe Biden's diss against black Americans and the rape criminal complaint still out there, Democrat leadership are DESPERATE to find someone... ANYONE... to replace Joe Biden...
And Bernie supporters are grinning happily saying, "we TOLD ya'all this would happen!!"...
Nothing like waking up in the morning and see the Democrat Party so utterly and thoroughly decimated and de-moralized.. :D
As to the subject of this commentary??
Fine.. You people want to police twitter??
By all means, do so..
Start with all the hate and bigotry and vile and disgusting twits who tweet against President Trump and the GOP..
In short, prove ya'all are serious about cleaning up twitter.. PROVE it's not just a political stunt ya'all dreamed up..
Police your OWN house first..
And THEN come talk to me about cleaning up President Trump's antics..
What's that???
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Yea... That's what I figured...
Nuttin' but a political stunt..
And, when one considers that the guy at Twitter who is going to pass judgement on twits who tweet is a Trump/America hater???
Twitter exec in charge of effort to fact-check Trump has history of anti-Trump posts, called McConnell a 'bag of farts'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-exec-in-charge-of-effort-to-fact-check-trump-has-history-of-anti-trump-posts-called-mcconnell-a-bag-of-farts
It seems this current hysteria is nothing but a bunch of Trump/America haters trying to bash President Trump..
Nothing more..
Just another Trump/America hate agenda at work...
"It wouldn't be a trip to New York without at least one big scary tranny"
-Yoel Roth, Twitter Exec Of 'Site Integrity'
"A 10 block cab ride can seem so much longer when the driver tells you about that time he thought a tranny hooker was a 'real girl.'"
-Yoel Roth
"Tranny hookers in Birkenstocks. Philadelphia: a city of contradictions. All the fags took {Christian Siriano} to heart"
-Yoel Roth
"Trans is a category worth being linguistically destabilized in the same way we did gay with 'fag.' Sorry, but I don’t subscribe to PC passing the buck. Identity politics is for everyone."
-Yoel Roth
THIS is the guy you people want to head up Twitter's 'Integrity' department???
You see ya'all's problem.. You people just hate.. Ya'all would massage Adolph Hitler himself if he would bash President Trump..
Trump/America haters are the EXACT haters and bigots they accuse others of being...
How far ya'all have sunk where ya'all would throw in with the likes of this Yoel Roth bigot...
However, the tweets in question had to do with Trump spreading another conspiracy theory, that voting by mail somehow equated to rampant election fraud by Democrats. Spoiler alert: it doesn't.
Except a bi-partisan panel on the issue says it does..
Twitter's warning label was placed on Trump's tweets even though a Twitter spokesperson acknowledged to Fox News that Trump's tweet had not broken any of the platform's rules, and despite the fact that several experts have called mail-in balloting an invitation to widespread fraud, as Trump said in his tweets.
Indeed, bipartisan panels of experts, as well as journalists, have found that absentee balloting increases the risk of voter fraud.
"Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud," read the conclusion of a bipartisan 2005 report authored by the Commission on Federal Election Reform, which was chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker.
"Twitter 'fact-checkers' really suck," wrote Dan Bongino, a Fox News contributor. He linked to a 2012 article in The New York Times headlined, "Error and Fraud at Issue as Absentee Voting Rises." The article states that "votes cast by mail are less likely to be counted, more likely to be compromised and more likely to be contested than those cast in a voting booth, statistics show."
A Twitter thread Tuesday by White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany highlighted numerous recent stories documenting fraud concerns over mail-in ballots across the country, including a Fox News piece.
I mean, even if ya'all don't want to listen to the FACTS and the EXPERTS that prove ya'all wrong, just THINK about it.. Use some COMMON SENSE!!
How can a mail in ballot NOT be fraudulent???
The ONLY reason Democrats are pushing for a mail in election is because they KNOW they can cheat.. It's like their push for NO PICTURE ID agenda...
Anything that makes it easier for Democrats to cheat, they are all in for...
Mike
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By condescending and talking down to black Americans, Biden totally dissed the Democrats' largest constituency...
Largest constituency? Wow. You really are an uninformed rube.
Victoria,
Largest constituency? Wow. You really are an uninformed rube.
And you still like to nit pick because you can't address the facts..
Democrats have consistently received the highest percentage, on average, of black Americans' vote..
Close to 90%...
No other constituency can claim such a majority..
I get it.. You can't address the FACTS that Biden royally diss'ed black Americans, so you nibble at semantics..
That's your "tell"..
That's when I KNOW you can't address the facts.. That's why I always win...
Victoria,
So, even if you are factually accurate about black Americans not being the largest constituency (which you are not), it does NOTHING to address the FACT that Joe Biden totally and unequivocally dis-respected all black Americans of ANY political persuasion....
I accept your concession...
Mike
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Democrats have consistently received the highest percentage, on average, of black Americans' vote..
Close to 90%...
No other constituency can claim such a majority..
You said black Americans were the Democrats' largest constituency; the fact is that non-Hispanic white Americans make up the largest constituency of Democrats by race. Nice try, though.
I get it..
Obviously, you don't get it.
You can't address the FACTS that Biden royally diss'ed black Americans, so you nibble at semantics..
You didn't post any facts, rube. You usually don't.
Mike
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So, even if you are factually accurate about black Americans not being the largest constituency (which you are not),
You said "Biden totally dissed the Democrats' largest constituency." He didn't. The largest constituency of the Democrats is white Americans.
it does NOTHING to address the FACT that Joe Biden totally and unequivocally dis-respected all black Americans of ANY political persuasion....
If you're looking for someone to claim they can read the minds of "all black Americans," look no further than an ignorant white guy like yourself claiming that he can.
I accept your concession...
You cannot accept what wasn't given any more than you can read the minds of "black Americans."
I accept that you'll be voting for Joe Biden.
Nobody cares about gaffes at this point. Trump has way too much blood on his hands and his bad policies and general incompetence insures there will be more...
100,259 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...
Nobody cares about gaffes at this point.
Yea.. That's what ya'all claimed with Hillary's deplorable gaffe...
Yet, it's a documented fact that her gaffe cost her the election..
Trump has way too much blood on his hands and his bad policies and general incompetence insures there will be more...
Blaaa blaaa blaaa And yet, President Trump is *STILL* President of the United States..
You people just CAN'T ever win... :D I find that hilarious that ya'all LOSE at every turn... :D
100,259 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...
And yer STILL so happy about that yer dancing..
#sickfuck
Cuomo granted immunity to nursing home executives, after big-money campaign donation: report
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomo-immunity-nursing-home-campaign-donation
Nursing Home execs purchasing immunity from Democrat Governor with blood on his hands...
Typical....
Trump wins the lockdown wars
President Trump has won the lockdown wars as coronavirus-related restrictions on businesses are eased across the country, so far with few signs of dire health consequences for the population.
Just weeks ago, the question was whether to reopen, with the first states to press ahead accused of engaging in human sacrifice and killing their residents to appease the “Trump death cult.” New York Times columnist Paul Krugman asked, “How many will die for the Dow?” as recently as Thursday.
Now, the debate is primarily over how quickly and to what extent reopening should take place, with the stragglers mainly blue states. Anthony Fauci, considered by many the public face of stay-at-home policies, now says the country can't stay locked down forever. When Trump’s Easter target date was deemed unrealistic, Memorial Day weekend was floated as another possibility — and the grand opening is beginning.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-wins-the-lockdown-wars
And again... Democrats lose...
And President Trump and patriotic Americans win... :D
It happens again and again and again and again... :D
The president’s supporters are confident he will be rewarded by a public that is increasingly chafing at the restrictions as summer approaches, even if the polling continues to reflect high levels of popular anxiety about the coronavirus.
“Democrats forgot that polls were a snapshot of a specific moment. They went all-in on endless lockdowns because they believed it would be a political winner,” said conservative strategist Chris Barron. “Early on, when Americans were crippled with fear, Democrats looked smart."
“Now, every single opinion poll shows the momentum turning against them,” he continued. “President Trump smartly listened to the medical experts but balanced that with an understanding of the economic realities for working Americans. Come November, if Democrats allow this to be a referendum on endless lockdowns, Trump will win in a landslide.”
Democrats proudly wear the MORON label... :D
The general election scenario that Democrats are dreading
"We are about to see the best economic data we’ve seen in the history of this country," says a top former economic adviser to Obama.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/26/2020-election-democrats-281470
Even Odumbo's economic advisors concede the FACTS...
Dumbocrats are toast in November... :D
In early April, Jason Furman, a top economist in the Obama administration and now a professor at Harvard, was speaking via Zoom to a large bipartisan group of top officials from both parties. The economy had just been shut down, unemployment was spiking and some policymakers were predicting an era worse than the Great Depression. The economic carnage seemed likely to doom President Donald Trump’s chances at reelection.
Furman, tapped to give the opening presentation, looked into his screen of poorly lit boxes of frightened wonks and made a startling claim.
“We are about to see the best economic data we’ve seen in the history of this country,” he said.
The former Cabinet secretaries and Federal Reserve chairs in the Zoom boxes were confused, though some of the Republicans may have been newly relieved and some of the Democrats suddenly concerned.
“Everyone looked puzzled and thought I had misspoken,” Furman said in an interview. Instead of forecasting a prolonged Depression-level economic catastrophe, Furman laid out a detailed case for why the months preceding the November election could offer Trump the chance to brag — truthfully — about the most explosive monthly employment numbers and gross domestic product growth ever.
Since the Zoom call, Furman has been making the same case to anyone who will listen, especially the close-knit network of Democratic wonks who have traversed the Clinton and Obama administrations together, including top members of the Biden campaign.
Furman’s counterintuitive pitch has caused some Democrats, especially Obama alumni, around Washington to panic. “This is my big worry,” said a former Obama White House official who is still close to the former president. Asked about the level of concern among top party officials, he said, “It’s high — high, high, high, high.”
You people need to come to grips with the facts and reality...
Democrats simply have NO PATH to victory in November..
ESPECIALLY if Joe Biden is the best Dims can offer...
And top policy officials on the Biden campaign are preparing for a fall economic debate that might look very different than the one predicted at the start of the pandemic in March. “They are very much aware of this,” said an informal adviser.
Furman’s case begins with the premise that the 2020 pandemic-triggered economic collapse is categorically different than the Great Depression or the Great Recession, which both had slow, grinding recoveries.
Instead, he believes, the way to think about the current economic drop-off, at least in the first two phases, is more like what happens to a thriving economy during and after a natural disaster: a quick and steep decline in economic activity followed by a quick and steep rebound.
The Covid-19 recession started with a sudden shuttering of many businesses, a nationwide decline in consumption and massive increase in unemployment. But starting around April 15, when economic reopening started to spread but the overall numbers still looked grim, Furman noticed some data that pointed to the kind of recovery that economists often see after a hurricane or industry wide catastrophe like the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
Consumption and hiring started to tick up “in gross terms, not in net terms,” Furman said, describing the phenomenon as a “partial rebound.” The bounce back “can be very very fast, because people go back to their original job, they get called back from furlough, you put the lights back on in your business. Given how many people were furloughed and how many businesses were closed you can get a big jump out of that. It will look like a V.”
Furman’s argument is not that different from the one made by White House economic advisers and Trump, who have predicted an explosive third quarter, and senior adviser Jared Kushner, who said in late April that "the hope is that by July the country's really rocking again." White House officials were thrilled to hear that some of their views have been endorsed by prominent Democrats.
For those Trump/America haters who are wishing for total economic collapse and millions of Americans dead???
Ya'all are going to be deeply disappointed..
This is the REALITY... Supported by FACTS...
Self-blinding to the facts and reality will do ya'all no good.. :D
Assuming I am still around to enjoy it, 4 Nov is going to be a fun FUN day for me.. :D
Kick [25],
Mind, not read.
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/25/joe-biden-was-right-about-black-people-and-trump--and-the-left-needs-to-get-past-purity-tests/
Michale,
Is it true that, in the middle of a pandemic - or, more accurately, at the beginning stages of a pandemic - President Trump is fighting to take away health insurance from millions of Americans?
Ah, Michale is back with his piggyback blog to
remind us that 40% of Americans live in a feverswamp alternative reality. I call it piggyback blog it appears that you pay CW to provide you with a forum the comments section. Good deal - I hope Don Harris is paying too.
Kick & God (where ya been, Big Guy? We needed you back in 2016!) got it right:
You didn't post any facts, rube. You usually don't. If you think Biden pissed off a single black American and/or just lost the election, that's an opinion/prediction, not a FACT.
Biden says to look at his record on race??
OK, let's do that...
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
-Joe Biden talking about Barack Obama in 2007
Joe Biden also claimed that the NAACP supported his candidacy every time he ran for President.
That is a lie...
“We want to clarify that the NAACP is a nonpartisan organization and does not endorse candidates for political office at any level.”
-NAACP President Derrick Johnson
“Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”
-Joe Biden, Aug 2019
“You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
-Joe Biden, 2006
“Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point.”
-Joe Biden commenting on desegration policies in 1977
“Unless we do something about that cadre of young people — tens of thousands of them, born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing ... because they literally have not been socialized ... A portion of them will become the predators 15 years from now, and ... we have predators on our streets that society has in fact, in part because of its neglect, created… We don’t very well know how to rehabilitate them at that point. That’s the sad truth. You’re looking at the fella who is one of the primary architects of the sentencing commission.”
-Joe Biden talking about black youth "predators" in 1993
“I think the Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace — someone who’s not afraid to stand up and offend people, someone who wouldn’t pander but would say what the American people know in their gut is right. Sometimes even George Wallace is right about some things.”
-Joe Biden talking about racist George Wallace in 1981
“I was honored to work with him, privileged to serve with him, proud to call him my friend.”
-Joe Biden giving a eulogy on Strom Thrumond in 2003
“He was a friend, he was a mentor and he was a guide.”
-Joe Biden delivering ANOTHER eulogy for ANOTHER racist, Former Exalted KKK Cyclops Robert Byrd
“Even in the days when I got there, the Democratic Party still had seven or eight old-fashioned Democratic segregationists. You’d get up and you’d argue like the devil with them. Then you’d go down and have lunch or dinner together.”
-Joe Biden bragging about working with ANOTHER racist in 2019
There is Joe Biden's "record" on race...
Let's see any of ya'all defend it....
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Yea.. That's what I figured.. :eyeroll:
Liz,
Is it true that, in the middle of a pandemic - or, more accurately, at the beginning stages of a pandemic - President Trump is fighting to take away health insurance from millions of Americans?
No, it is not factually accurate..
Ah, Michale is back with his piggyback blog to
remind us that 40% of Americans live in a feverswamp alternative reality. I call it piggyback blog it appears that you pay CW to provide you with a forum the comments section.
Of course, you have NO facts to counter what's been posted so you stoop to insulting me AND CW....
I accept your concession...
Or would you prefer to actually man up and address the facts???
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Yea, that's what I figured..
Still doesn't matter. Your guy's incompetence is killing people.
100,940 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...
Still doesn't matter. Your guy's incompetence is killing people.
Actually, you yourself have proven that is not factually accurate..
You didn't say squat when Odumbo's incompetence killed over 12,000 Americans..
So you established that the POTUS is not responsible..
Ass... :D
Michale,
I thought that the Trump administration is in court trying to upend Obamacare?
It wouldn't be a problem if Trump had some sort of system identified and in place to replace Obamacare with something better but, that is not the case.
It's quite simple, Blathy..
You didn't blame Odumbo, you don't get to blame President Trump...
Even someone has bigoted and hate-filled as you can understand such a simple concept..
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Don Harris wrote:
Why does anyone take anything to do with Twitter seriously?
It's got the word "twit" right there in it's name.
You have a point.
I thought that the Trump administration is in court trying to upend Obamacare?
Odumbocare is collapsing under the weight of it's own crappiness and Un-Constitutionality...
It wouldn't be a problem if Trump had some sort of system identified and in place to replace Obamacare with something better but, that is not the case.
Yea, I know.. That's the Trump/America haters claim.. But it is not backed up by any facts..
But ANYTHING is better than TrainWreckCare... Even returning to the status quo that existed BEFORE TrainWreckCare....
The mandate has been ruled unconstitutional just as I predicted it would.... TrainWreckCare requires the mandate to survive...
Odumbo promised the American people a super-charged Mustang...
He delivered an Edsel....
It's really that simple..
So, Michale, are you saying that the president does have some plan for healthcare insurance in case he wins the Supreme Court case, or even if he loses?
Well, it's been fun.. But it's that time of the day again.. :D
Ya'all have fun tonight trying to refute THE FACTS... :D
"See ya tomorrow.. MAYBE!!"
-Bill Murray, GROUNDHOG DAY
:D
You didn't say squat when Odumbo's incompetence killed over 12,000 Americans..
Nether did you. Remember gold standard. Job well done. Memory problems?
It's quite simple, Blathy..
Now you are replying to monsters of the ID?
Losing it, dude...
101,305 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...
John From Censornati
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Mind, not read.
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/25/joe-biden-was-right-about-black-people-and-trump--and-the-left-needs-to-get-past-purity-tests/
Now you're talking, John! Thank you so much for this article. This author exactly nails what I was trying to say in my post:
^^^ This! ^^^
At this point, should it surprise anyone that an uneducated white worshiper of Donald Trump would presume to speak for any/all black people and declare they're offended by Joe Biden? *shakes head* It sure as hell didn't surprise me, and that's what I was trying to say in my comment at [25]. This author said it way better, John.
Mike
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Biden says to look at his record on race??
OK, let's do that...
Okay, but flooding the board with Biden quotes isn't the equivalent of "looking at his record," and you're still an ignorant member of the Trump cult whining that Biden is a racist. Bless your heart!
That is a lie...
A Trump swallower whining that a candidate is a liar... more of that "comedy gold."
There is Joe Biden's "record" on race...
Except you didn't post a single thing about Joe Biden's record on race... so there's genuinely not a single thing about Joe Biden's record to defend.
You're just another in a long line of useful idiots playing the race card and encouraging black people to stay home and not vote... which is definitely not in anyone's best interest to be disenfranchised out of their right to choose their leaders.
You and Your Orange Worship and your ilk of Trump cultists could just save yourselves a whole lot of time and tell "black Americans" as well as women that you believe they are stupid enough to fall for your bullshit and should be outraged! *laughs*
Wow Michale ur a thilly wabbit tonight! Obama kept fatalities to a minimum because he took being President
seriously. 12K died and Trump is at 100K and rising. So, whataboutism doesn't excuse fake-President Trump.
Don't hate 'Murica but I hate the Derangement of Trumptards like you. You'll be gone off this site 11/5
Sieg Heil! Michale. You must believe your Dear Leader.
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Kick these Repugs always disappear from the conversation the moment you point out any kind of reality that they cannot refute. It's probably not worth yer time to bat Michale down.