Trump Gets Schooled
That headline is meant in an ironic way, not a literal one -- since Donald Trump literally "getting schooled" on anything would be impossible, considering his almost-complete lack of the ability to learn new things. Instead, I refer to the president deciding to pick a battle on yet another losing field for him, this time fighting to force school districts to open up in-person classes in a few weeks. Trump would like to get all America's schools back to normal. That's a goal shared by just about everyone, but the problem with Trump's approach is that it comes with a rather large disclaimer at the end: "...whether it is safe to do so or not." This is the bridge that is proving to be too far for America's mothers and fathers.
In any conflict, whether military or political, you've got to pick your battles. You've got to decide what is worth defending to the death and what is not. The problem for Trump is that his campaign (or he himself) has massively misread the issue of school reopenings with the general public.
This isn't the only issue Trump has chosen which is hurting his re-election chances, of course. Take the other big issue of the day, the protests against racial injustice. Trump, once again, chose to defend the most indefensible position possible, by sticking up for the Confederate battle flag. Here's what the public thinks about that, from a recent Washington Post article:
[President Donald Trump's] defense of those who want to fly the [Confederate battle] flag increasingly cuts against the grain in American society. The same Quinnipiac poll showed a startling move against the flag, with 56 percent calling it a symbol of racism and just 35 percent saying it was more about Southern pride. Even Southerners said 55-to-36 that it was a symbol of racism.
That last sentence is a stunner. Even Southerners aren't rallying behind the Confederate battle flag anymore. Wow. That's amazing, and it shows how most of the public has largely moved on from this fight already. Trump jumping in on the unpopular side of it isn't likely to change any minds, either.
The polling on Trump's focus on "law and order" as a broader issue arising from the protests isn't any better for him. To Trump, all protesters are violent, they are all rioting, and they are all anarchists (or maybe fascists or maybe communists) and what the general public is looking for is a strong police (or maybe military) response. Unfortunately for him, most of the public sees the reality with a lot more nuance:
The Yahoo-YouGov poll showed 51 percent of Americans said the country would be "less safe" if Trump was re-elected, compared to 34 percent who said it would be "more safe." By contrast, Americans were evenly divided -- 39-39 -- on Biden.
Other polling during the large-scale protests has shown 80 percent of Americans believe things are "spiraling out of control" in this country. And 62 percent of Americans in the Monmouth poll said Trump's response to the recent protests has made the situation worse, compared to just 20 percent who said he has made it better.
So it's not like Trump's picking the wrong side on the school reopening fight isn't in keeping with the rest of his campaign's misguided focus. But picking this particular fight is just jaw-droppingly stupid, even for Trump.
Up until a few weeks ago, the issue was not even a partisan one at all. Schools would reopen when they felt it was safe to do so, using many innovative ways to ensure that things were as safe as possible. Different districts were considering different ways to do this. And the Centers for Disease Control was weighing in with some scientific advice for the different methods, as well as some overall suggestions to all the school administrators who were wrestling with this decision. The sole focus was on health and safety, and not at all on politics.
Then Trump intervened.
Apparently, someone had gotten through to Trump with a pretty simple message -- reopening the economy as Trump wanted was being constrained by the fact that all the children were still at home. Parents couldn't go back to work because they were busy homeschooling their kids and keeping an eye on them. So these parents must be freed up to go back to work, and forcing all the schools to reopen five days a week in-person was the most direct route to get there. Trump seized upon this and ran with it. The schools must reopen now, period, he decreed.
First he attacked the C.D.C.'s guidelines, saying they were too drastic and too expensive to implement. He promised that a new revision of these guidelines would appear within the next week. That deadline has now almost passed, and no new guidelines have appeared (that I have noticed, at least). If they do appear, it will be a triumph of politics over science, as a once-admired scientific government agency is forced to bend to the will of a president who is trying to get re-elected. If no new guidelines do appear, perhaps it will be because Trump forgot all about his promise (indeed, this often happens when Trump promises something will happen "next week" in an off-the-cuff way).
Then Trump tried a full-court press on the issue, sending his Education Secretary out to do media interviews to promote the plan of: "Open the schools at all costs, including your kids' health." The problem with this was that Betsy DeVos is perhaps the most-hated cabinet member Trump has, and the plan she announced was pretty breathtaking in its disregard for students' health and safety. And she had no real answer for how schools could guarantee safety, other than to pass the buck down to all the school districts. "You're on your own -- figure it out" was her only message to them, essentially. Which is the exact same message Trump has been sending to the states all along, throughout the entire pandemic.
The truly bizarre thing is that Team Trump has convinced themselves that this is somehow a winning issue for them. They figure that all the moms and dads out there will be incredibly relieved to see their kids go back to school, freeing them up to return to a normal work routine once again. All the parents will be overwhelmingly grateful to Trump for making it happen. This is actually what they believe.
Well, new numbers are coming in showing that they're just as wrong on this issue as they are on the many others Trump has chosen to campaign on:
While Trump has said relatively little of substance lately on the coronavirus outbreak, he has focused like a laser on school reopening. But a new Quinnipiac University poll shows Americans actually oppose his approach on this by a 2-to-1 margin, with 61 percent disapproving of his plans to reopen schools and only 29 percent approving. Women disapproved, 69-23.
Further, as The Post's Philip Bump detailed Wednesday, polling from Yahoo News and YouGov this week showed 77 percent of people say the country's priority should be to limit the spread of the virus even if students can't go back to school, while just 23 percent said reopening schools should be the bigger priority.
Who could have predicted that parents would put the safety and health of their children ahead of Trump's re-election plan? Well, pretty much anyone who understands how motherhood and fatherhood works.
Trump has already lost a lot of suburban votes, especially from women. The 2018 midterm rebuke proved this. Now, he seems to be actively attempting to push them away even further. Note that: "Women disapproved 69-23."
Watching Trump now, it's as if George W. Bush got a second hurricane a few months after Katrina and just refused to admit it was even happening. That's how Trump is now treating the pandemic. If he sticks his fingers in his ears and says: "LA LA LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU" loud enough, then the problem just ceases to exist, for him. The coronavirus pandemic began with Trump ignoring it for two months, and chaos followed. The second wave of the pandemic happened as a direct result of Trump pushing governors to reopen their states long before the science said it was safe to do so, and so far Trump is blithely pretending that the second wave does not even exist. He'll grudgingly admit that there are "a few hotspots," but in the same breath he'll insist that everything is fine. Back then, the highpoint was seeing 30,000 new cases a day. Now we're seeing 70,000 per day or more. But there is no admission from Trump that the country as a whole is in a much worse place than we were back in March and April (twice as bad, in fact), and that in some individual cities and states things have already passed the crisis point. Instead of admitting there's a new crisis, Trump is instead trying to force all the nation's school districts to reopen in-person classes.
This is a stunningly bad position to take. It is nothing short of political malpractice. Trump is repeating exactly the same mistakes he made in the early months of the crisis, but this time around a lot more people are paying a lot more attention. The White House has reportedly settled on a strategy of "America will get used to 50,000 to 100,000 new cases a day, and they'll just accept that as the new normal." In other words, nothin' to see here... move along....
The public, however, is just not that stupid. Most of them, at any rate. The new stage of the pandemic crisis is right in front of everyone's eyes, and the facts on the ground are simply undeniable. In the worst point of any crisis, people look to the White House for some leadership, and what they are getting instead is a president who refuses to even discuss the subject, who refuses to admit that the crisis is getting worse, and who is trying to force all of America's schoolkids back into classrooms for his own political purposes. And more and more individual school districts have indeed now "schooled" Trump by refusing to bow to his nakedly political demands. Trump made a boneheaded bet against a mother's love for her children and it is blowing up in his face. The more he doubles down on this, the more voters are going to decide that maybe Joe Biden is the way to go in November. That, hopefully, is when Trump will really get schooled.
-- Chris Weigant
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Maybe it's because there is no American political language to discuss the actions of a maniac in high office, but as I read your passionate and angry piece, I kept hearing hints of the old 'political analysis' approach to dissecting a president's policies and the ins and outs of presidential electioneering.
"his campaign (or he himself) has massively misread the issue..."
"Team Trump has convinced themselves that this is somehow a winning issue for them"
"This is a stunningly bad position to take. It is nothing short of political malpractice."
Writing like this makes it sound like the Trump campaign - or as you say, Trump himself, since his so-called campaign can't do a thing with him that he doesn't want to do - [i]thinks[/i], or [i]reads the issue[/i], or [i]takes a position[/i]. But as your other scathing comments on Trump's actions imply, you are well aware that he is out of his mind, verging on insane. And rational, thoughtful -- let's say 'sane' -- criticism of the thinking, reading, or positioning of an insane man reads to me like avoidance or even enabling.
The political culture, I guess, still demands that we talk about this president as if he were, you know, a president ... like all the other presidents who made bad decisions about how to position a campaign, or read the public mood, or frame an election's big questions.
When he spent an hour rambling in front of the press corps this week, even the reporters at the NY Times seemed, somehow, uncomfortable at what they were watching. I understand CNN actually cut away from the "press conference", because it was such an awful spectacle. But when I looked to see if anyone has been writing about the president's loss of mental function, I found articles going back three years on this subject, all written by media critics, all taking the position of "Is the mainstream media blind, deaf, and dumb???? This man is mentally ill!!! He should be carted off to the loony bin pronto!!! And you're reporting on his lying statements as if they were true unless proven otherwise, you're analyzing his mistakes and misdeed as if they were scandalous exceptions to an otherwise normal administration, and you're generally doing the prestigious and well-paid jobs you were trained to do under a succession of sane and normal politicians. Wake up and start telling the people the truth: Donald Trump is not a politician, not a president, not a businessman, not a populist, not a genius at reading the conservative pathology, not anything except a criminally insane and physically ill old man who can no longer think straight, much less talk straight, much less perform in any way, shape, or fashion the job he currently holds."
I know you're not as bad as all that, Chris [rant over]. But please, reconsider your tone of treating this man's political actions as if they were political actions. They're not.
Trump made a boneheaded bet against a mother's love for her children and it is blowing up in his face.
It's his T-shirt sales guy's fault. Brad had to go. Big Orange still thinks it's a presentation issue rather than a problematic product.
Poor Brad went all Biblical and tweeted about persecution today - Romans 12:14: Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. He'd better hope that nobody explains that to his illiterate boss even if he is gonna bless him rather than curse at him. Twisting the words in Fat Donny's favorite book against him is unforgivable.
Brad could end up in exile like Fauci (or Tiffany).
Let's not even go down that guy who works for somebody whose middle name is persecutor whining about being persecuted rabbit hole.
John M from Ct [1],
please, reconsider your tone of treating this man's political actions as if they were political actions
Behold the corrupting influence of Big Money! Rust never sleeps.
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And rational, thoughtful -- let's say 'sane' -- criticism of the thinking, reading, or positioning of an insane man reads to me like avoidance or even enabling.
The political culture, I guess, still demands that we talk about this president as if he were, you know, a president ... like all the other presidents who made bad decisions...
Methinks you are a tad harsh on CW.
Whatever one's opinion of Trump he is President. What he says and does can mean life or death. CW's analysis and insights into Trump's latest folly in no way "legitimizes" Trump's conduct.
Otherwise, you're saying, "Let's just ignore Trump because he's a dick."
Also, CW's deconstruction of Trump's latest folly in its own way adds something of a more "deligitimizing" assessment of the whole Trump fake-Presidency.
In short, I don't think CW is a Tool.
And also, literally millions of people, and for years now, have known that there's something that ain't quite
right about Trump. It's no secret. Except to the millions of Americans still afflicted by "Trump Derangement Syndrome" who think he can do no wrong.
But in the end the Repug Senate protected Trump instead of our Constitution, so now we we have to go to pandemic with the president we're still stuck with.
MtnCaddy [4-6]
My comments were a bit passionate. I don't think CW is a tool, either. Clearly his writing doesn't "legitimize" Trump. But I do think his language "normalizes" Trump, and that is a destructive thing even if done almost unconsciously.
And although I don't think Chris as a political commentator needs to ignore Trump completely, I do think the reporting media ought to be doing so far more than they do. Ignore him. Report what his office, or other executive offices, actually DO, not say, in the sense of issuing executive orders, regulatory decisions, or other official government business.
If Trump says it in a tweet, interview, speech, or press conference, it's not news - it's a lie or lies. Report it, if necessary, on page 16, or at the bottom of the screen with the fake sob stories about miracle plastic surgeries and babies that came back to life.
But if the Department of Health and Human Services says it will offer no more support to state governments in combating the coronavirus, that's news. If the Department of Education says that schools not reopening fully this fall will lose all federal funding, that's news. The media doesn't report what raving maniacs spout on street corners while wearing tinfoil beanies; why should they report what this president says?
You say "whatever ones opinion of Trump he is president. What he says and does can mean life or death", but that is a trap you've set for yourself, as the media has. What he does is important, yes. He has the power of his office. But what he says is not important, inherently. It need not be. It can be ignored, as no other president's speech has ever been ignored. It needs to be ignored, because he is crazy and treating him like he is not crazy is the most dangerous thing the media, and those who follow the media, could be doing right now.
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but that is a trap you've set for yourself, as the media has. What he does is important, yes. He has the power of his office. But what he says is not important, inherently. It need not be. It can be ignored, as no other president's speech has ever been ignored. It needs to be ignored, because he is crazy and treating him like he is not crazy is the most dangerous thing the media, and those who follow the media, could be doing right now.
But the words of the man holding the office do matter. In some ways more with Trump (free media, Twitter) yet yet less, because he lies and doesn't know his job. His words are the elephant in the room, always.
But to bring it full circle, writers like CW should continue to report and analyze all of Trump's madnesses. The cleansing power of strong light, etc.
I, too, have maintained awareness and fear of "normalizing" Trump's conduct. With every new outrage I want to shout, "This cannot be!"
But the hits keep a coming with Trump, and I guess I'm afraid that people get tired of boys crying wolf, even when there are wolves. Perhaps ya gotta pick and choose which wolves you cry about.
Yunno...
By the same "logic" of supporting the name-change of the Washington Redskins and the Democrat Party 'Cancel Culture'....
Ya'all SHOULD support the disbanding of the Democrat Party..
But of course, ya'all won't...
Because, "Uh... er..sputter, sputterWell.... That's different!!"
:eyeroll:
I wish I had a viewer to show ya'all the Weigantian past... At least the ones who never experienced it..
The utter bigotry and hysterical hatred displayed by current Weigantians would be abhorrent to Bush era Weigantians...
I know you're not as bad as all that, Chris [rant over]. But please, reconsider your tone of treating this man's political actions as if they were political actions. They're not.
As I said... Bigotry and hysterical hatred...
At it's 'finest'...
Ya hear that, CW??
Yer failing the HATE PRESIDENT TRUMP crowd... Yer not hysterical enough.. You don't hate him enough...
Better watch that.. :^/
But the hits keep a coming with Trump, and I guess I'm afraid that people get tired of boys crying wolf, even when there are wolves. Perhaps ya gotta pick and choose which wolves you cry about.
Yea?? Which "wolves" are you talking about??
The "wolf" of lowest unemployment in decades??
Or maybe you mean the "wolf" of lowest black American unemployment *EVER*...???
You might mean the "wolf" of lowest hispanic American unemployment *EVER*???
Or you could mean the "wolf" of lowest unemployment for women in 65 years...
Or possible the "wolf" of lowest unemployment for youth in 50 years..
Or maybe you mean the "wolf" of explosion of real solid American jobs since President Trump took office??
Or is it the "wolf" of helping black Americans thru criminal justice reform???
Are these the "wolves" you are referring to, MC??
:eyeroll:
I'm afraid that people get tired of boys crying wolf. PERIOD
Now THAT is a factually valid statement..
Ya'all concentrate on President Trump because ya'all can't handle ya'all's own failings and the failings of your Democrat Party and your candidate..
And THAT's why ya'all are going to lose again in 2020, just like you did in 2016..
Because of ya'all's (NEN) hysterical hate and bigotry ya'all paint a picture about President Trump.. A false, bullshit, fact-less picture...
And the FACTS paint a completely different picture..
It's my slap down of ya'all over the TRUMP IS A RACIST bullshit over and over and over again..
That's why none of ya'all can address the facts..
THAT'S why MC has dodged the "Police Reform" question over and over again..
Ya'all can't face they weight of ya'all's own bullshit..
As usual, notable exceptions noted..
The utter stoopidity of the Democrat Party is on full display in New York City..
Mayor DeBlowHole has decreed that the city will shut down.
But crazy protests/lootings/arsons from the terrorist group Black Lies Matter can continue..
Ya'all hear that???
A family CAN'T go to church, but scumbag protesters ARE allowed to burn that church down..
That's the Democrat Party "logic" for ya'all... :eyeroll:
Hay CW..
I was waxing on what has been missed here in Weigantian.. At least by yours truly..
And I came across this lil gem... :D
DESTINED FOR STARDOM
Eliot Spitzer. All eyes are currently on Barack Obama, but Eliot Spitzer may wind up being the one to watch. He just won a landslide (69%) victory in his campaign for New York governor, and many suspect he has set his sights even higher. He would likely annoy New Yorkers by jumping into the presidential ring in 2008 (after only serving one year of his term), but if the other frontrunners are damaged early, he may decide to jump in late in the campaign. Safer money is on him running in the future (2012 or 2016). But he is definitely a Democrat to watch in the future.
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2006/12/28/my-mclaughlin-awards-for-2006-part-2/
hehehehe Sorry.. Couldn't resist.. :D
But it's an important teachable moment..
It's what happens when you put a person or a Party on a pedestal when they don't deserve to be there...
"Those who forget the past are doomed to relive it.."
This is part of yer past, CW that you might want to take a lesson from..
I'm just sayin'... :D
Hay MC, where are you??
I mean, a couple days ago, ya were positively JONESin' for me..
Now you can' hide deep enough...
What's up with that!? :D
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/stg071420dAPR20200714014509.jpg
I honestly don't understand how you Democrats can sleep at night...
I honestly don't...
CW: The coronavirus pandemic began with Trump ignoring it for two months, and chaos followed.
In addition to ignoring the science, the right-wing propaganda machine and talking heads went into overdrive to downplay the severity of the virus and refer to it in terms like the "common cold" (nope) and "Democrat hoax" (nope), and no matter how many times they are lied to, their gullible base spew the disinformation back on cue as if mere repetition can turn a falsehood into a fact (nope).
When Americans started dropping dead from the "hoax" they continued the denying and downplaying right up until Friday, March 13, when their rhetoric turned on a dime. It seems you cannot con a virus. But it wasn't even a few weeks later when Trump was right back to denying and downplaying, making his plans to have packed churches on Easter, April 12, and Pence declaring things were under control and we'd "have this coronavirus epidemic behind us" by Memorial Day, May 25. The stupid never stops with the COVID deniers.
All the denials that the virus posed a threat at the outset and the continued denials that reopening too early would lead to more needless death and destruction, and the White House continues to drag its ass in its customary fashion. Anyone who thinks it's going to get better anytime soon hasn't been paying attention. The $600 weekly supplement that millions of out-of-work Americans have been using to stay afloat are set to expire in 14 days... while the Trump administration and GOP are doing what? Sitting on/dragging their asses in denial.
Millions of Americans are about to have their incoming cash plummet in days and will start losing their homes if nothing is done, and then September 30 marks the deadline where companies must maintain at least 90% of their employees under the economic stimulus... so those airline among other industry layoffs are looming large if nothing is done, and what is the GOP doing? Nothing yet.
I mean, none of ya'all (with Russ being the obvious exception) have come out against Defund/Abolish Police.. Not a single commentary against it..
A couple people here tried to deny that defunding or abolishing the police would cause any problems, but that's the extent of ya'all's opposition to defund/abolish the Police...
And of course by the Weigantian Charlottesville Rule...
"SILENCE GIVES ASSENT"
And it appears this sentiment has left the shores of Weigantia (We have shores here.. Excellent surfing and SCUBA Diving..) and has become mainstream with the Democrat Party..
At more than one Black Lies Matter protest, I have seen signs help up that say:
SILENCE = CONSENT
So, now it's not only a Weigantian rule, it's also now a Democrat Party rule..
Once again, Michale proven dead on ballz accurate and establishes the trend.... :D
CW,
The coronavirus pandemic began with Trump ignoring it for two months, and chaos followed.
Sorry, you don't get to re-write recent history..
President Trump was kinda tied up by the Dumbocrat Party and their faux impeachment coup...
Any responsibility for the delayed response falls completely and utterly at the feet of ya'all's Dumbocrat Party..
"These are the facts of the case.. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN
"These are the facts of the case.. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN
At least, undisputed by people with more than 2 brain cells to rub together...
"Do you know what Cardassians drink in the morning?? Fish juice.. Hot fish juice. After six months, I was HOPING the Klingons would invade!!"
-Arne Darvin, STAR TREK DS9, Trials and Tribble-ations
:D
Hopefully people will decide Trump is so bad they will choose Biden. Is that ALL you got?
Yep, that's all they got..
And they are ignoring FACTS and REALITY and HISTORICAL PRECEDENT to get it... :D
I mean, I agree.. It's bad enough that that is all they got..
But HOW they got it??? My gods, the self-delusion required is astounding..
As I have said and this simply proves it..
Democrats should simply 'cede 2020 and prepare for 2024...
Democrats simply have no way to win.. No path to victory.. This is Dole/Clinton all over again except Biden = Dole....
"Trump is a racist!"
-Democrats
Joe Biden opposed desegregation and supported mass incarceration for black Americans
"Trump bragged about grabbing women inappropriately!!"
-Democrats
Joe Biden DOES grab women and children inappropriately...
"Trump lies and takes credit for things he's never done!!"
-Democrats
Joe Biden lied about his college career and is a PROVEN serial plagiarist...
"Trump is vulgar and uses bad words."
-Democrats
"This is a big fucking deal!"
-Joe Biden
Once again, Democrats penchant for accusing people of what they themselves are guilty of is proven beyond all doubt...
I know, I know... Ya'all are searching for a snappy comeback..
"Well... er... uh.. sputter, sputter.. That's different!!!"
There ya go... :D
Ya'all know how I know when I have ya'all by the short and curlies...
Either ya'all respond with nit-picking, inanities and deflections..
or
{{ccchhhiiiirrrrpppppp}} {{{ccchhhiiirrrppp}}}
:D
Either way, it's a win by KO... :D
Silence Gives Assent
-The Democrat Party
"I am feeling MUCH better now..."
-John Astin, NIGHT COURT
:D
Actually, it comes and goes.. Last few days, I have actually been getting a good nights sleep and wake up feeling almost normal..
But then, as the day rolls on, I get sicker and feel like carp....
http://sjfm.us/pics/airsupport.jpg
:D heheheheehehe
A man walks into a pet store and is interested in buying a bird cage...
The man points to one and asks the owner, "Does that one have any nickel in it??"..
The owner replies, "Nickel?? No, it doesn't have any nickel in it.."
So they guy says, "So, it's a nickel-less cage??"
Baa daa da... :D
hehehehehe
Michale
11
Yunno...
By the same "logic" of supporting the name-change of the Washington Redskins and the Democrat Party 'Cancel Culture'....
"Yunno," you should allow it to permeate that wee small intellect of yours that the constant whining about the commenters on this board isn't the equivalent of discussing political issues. It's just not.
The hypocrites who are "all in" for not wearing face coverings and for boycotting the NFL and burning their Nike products and etcetera, etcetera have got them a new shiny right-wing talking point called "cancel culture." I said it before, and I'll say it again: Self-awareness isn't their strong suit. Free speech for them doesn't bother them so much, but it's labelled "cancel culture" if it doesn't fit the Rightie Trumpian sheeple rhetoric.
The GOP have led their sheeple over the cliff to the point where they're now against capitalism. Ah, the stupid... how it definitely does burn.
Ya'all SHOULD support the disbanding of the Democrat Party..
No one can support the disbanding of a Party that only exists in the minds of the right-wing uninformed goober gallery. Eliminating that fictional Party would simply require the morons to stop using the incorrect term. I support stopping the stupid.
Don Harris
23
The last two paragraphs are absolutely hilarious.
Everything you said in those paragraphs about Trump are YOU!
Hopefully people will decide Trump is so bad they will choose Biden. Is that ALL you got?
*spew alert* The Don Harris troll asking anybody else "is that ALL you got?" Hysterical beyond measure.
You are suffering from the SAME self-delusion as the Dems if you think that it matters as to whether Trump or Biden wins in November.
Of course it matters. Only a fool would ignore the differences...
If Joe Biden is elected, every day will be Seattle CHOP and Portland CHAZ and kill/abolish all cops.. It will be the end of American culture...
If President Trump wins re-election it will be law and order, cops are heroes and American culture will go on..
There can't be a BIGGER difference for this country in who wins the election..
Either ya'all respond with nit-picking, inanities and deflections..
or
{{ccchhhiiiirrrrpppppp}} {{{ccchhhiiirrrppp}}}
:D
Either way, it's a win by KO... :D
Yep.. I called that one.. :D
If Joe Biden is elected, every day will be Seattle CHOP and Portland CHAZ and kill/abolish all cops.. It will be the end of American culture...
Because, let's face reality..
A President Joe Biden will be nothing but a figure-head... The real power will reside with the far Left nutjobs...
Joe Biden will be the Professor John Gill to the Far Left's Melakon...
Don Harris
33
While we may have to cede 2020 to the anti-democratic and anti-American enemies of democracy we can start now to prepare for 2022 and 2024 by participating in One Demand in 2020 to break the cycle of you only have two bad choices.
Your standard rhetoric is as stale as your pathetic attempts at peddling your bullshit in the comments section of another man's blog. The oft repeated bullshit of yours that there are only two choices has never been the case, and spewing that shit on this forum over and over isn't going to change it. Howie Hawkins became the presumptive presidential nominee of the Green Party on June 21, 2020, and Jo Jorgensen was chosen as the presidential nominee of the Libertarian Party on May 23, 2020. In addition, unless you're deaf, dumb, blind, or just terminally stupid, you will find a plethora of names from which to choose on your presidential ballot of November 3, 2020, and anyone telling you otherwise is full of shit up to their eyeballs.
So to recap: In point of fact, you won't find a ballot in America where you are limited to two presidential choices. It's high time to give that asinine rhetoric a rest. Is the president usually a Democrat or Republican? In modern times, that is true, but it wasn't always that way. Are there only two presidential choices from which to choose? Hell no. There are a plethora of choices on your ballot. Time to give that bullshit a rest already.
Sen. Tom Cotton: Bari Weiss' NY Times exit shows stifling political correctness left wants. Don't let them win
The media is just the latest prize in the left’s long march through elite cultural institutions
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tom-cotton-bari-weiss-ny-times-left-political-correctness
Once again, it's AMAZING how ya'all think Democrats can actually win in Nov... :D
Let's face reality..
ALL ya'all have going for you are polls..
And polls have been PROVEN to be ineffectual where President Trump is concerned..
If what I am proposing is so ridiculous why can't you argue against in a rational manner?
"The fact that you resort to name-calling proves you are defensive and therefore find my opinion valid."
-Spock, STAR TREK 90210
:D
Only a fool would concentrate on the minor differences and ignore the major similarity that they both work for the big money interests.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on that..
I don't view the rapes and murders and cop killings etc etc etc committed under the auspices of the Democrat Party and Joe Biden to be "minor differences"...
For me, it's not a "minor" difference..
It's the entire reason for this election..
It's the forces of Light and Good (President Trump) vs the forces of Darkness and Evil (Joe Biden)...
Like I said.. not a "minor" difference..
The SOLE difference...
Ya'all really need to come to grips with reality..
With everything the Democrat Party and it's AntiFa and BlackLiesMatter Direct Action sections stand for, there is simply no way Americans are going to vote them into power for anything greater than county dog catcher...
It simply won't happen..
And the fact that ya'all think it could is laughable...
So, come 4 Nov when ya'all are hysterical and whining and crying in your cheerios, I'll be right here to tell ya...
"See!? Ya'all were totally and utterly deluding yerselves..."
Anyone who thinks that today's Democrat Party is electable is a person who is either ignorant of or refuses to accept the facts and the reality on the ground...
I mean, the Democrat's acceptance of Defund/Abolish The Police movement alone is enough to crater any possibility of political power..
Add to that reparations, the destruction of American culture and the complete vicious assaults on anyone who doesn't toe the Party line???
Democrats simply cannot win unless they totally and utterly repudiate the hysterical racist mobs..
And we all know that Democrats in general do not have the testicular fortitude to go against the hysterical racist mobs...
They both work for the big money interests (the forces of Darkness and Evil).
Com'on, Don...
If President Trump were controlled by big money interests, those interests either have some real strange ideas about how to achieve their ends...
Or else they really don't control President Trump that well at all...
Don Harris
38
Is that ALL you got?
Of course it isn't. You want more? Fine.
You have to try to portray me as troll...
I don't have to "try to portray" you as a troll because you are definitely a troll.
... because the facts on the ground are undeniable and you can't make a rational argument against all I do have- the basic tools of democracy and a way for citizens to use those tools to save democracy and our country from the deceptive big money Dems and Republicans.
I wholeheartedly agree that you are a "tool."
If what I am proposing is so ridiculous why can't you argue against in a rational manner?
I can, and I have... as has near every poster in the comments section of this blog as well as the author. My or anyone else's refusal to engage further in the hashing and rehashing of your repetitive drivel is in no way whatsoever indicative that we cannot do it. I cannot help your ignorance if you equate "will not" with "cannot."
Anything else, troll, tool? <--- rhetorical question
Bubba Wallace slams NASCAR driver who wrecked him in All-Star Race qualifier: 'What a joke he is'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2020/07/15/nascar-all-star-race-bubba-wallace-wreck-upset-michael-mcdowell/112269696/
That's what happens to scumbags who pull a Jussie Smollett...
Karma comes around and bits them on the arse... :D
Don Harris
44
You just admitted that it is asinine to say there are only two choices.
Okay, fine. You're an ass.
Once again you made my point.
No, I made my point that you keep claiming there are only two choices; try to keep up, troll tool.
You only have two choices is the whole Dem strategy and standard rhetoric.
No, it isn't, but if you think the "two choices" sounds dumb, perhaps you might see your way to wrapping your head around to just how ignorant "one demand" sounds. "Two choices"... "one demand." It's all utter bollocks.
My whole argument is that it is time to put that idea to rest.
I don't give a shit, Don.
So I should stop pointing out that the Dem strategy and standard rhetoric is bullshit because I am right?
Again, you are confusing one thing with a completely different other thing. No one asked you to stop your advertisements, and everyone has wished you well in your endeavors... on your own website. You trolling this one further is pointless. You have converted no one here.
Seattle City Council Member Suggests Firing White Officers...
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/17/seattle-city-council-member-suggests-firing-white-officers-in-massive-reduction-of-police-department/
Typical Dumbocrats..
"Let's invoke REAL racism to address non-existent racism"
I guess racist Democrats *AREN'T* a thing of the past... :eyeroll:
Funny how everyone here ignores things like what's happening in Seattle...
Things that PROVE racist Democrats are NOT a thing of the past...
So, let's see Seattle follow thru with it's plan to fire hundreds of officers, most of which are black and other minority..
Go ahead, Seattle.. I double dog dare ya...
Michale
14
The "wolf" of lowest unemployment in decades??
Head up your ass much?
Or maybe you mean the "wolf" of lowest black American unemployment *EVER*...???
Well, that certainly answers my previous question. How high up in there is your head?
You might mean the "wolf" of lowest hispanic American unemployment *EVER*???
Pretty high.
Or you could mean the "wolf" of lowest unemployment for women in 65 years...
You might want to pull out of there and review current events. Just saying.
Or possible the "wolf" of lowest unemployment for youth in 50 years..
Or... sure... you could leave it firmly shoved up in there and ignore the millions of people out of work and highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression.
Or maybe you mean the "wolf" of explosion of real solid American jobs since President Trump took office??
Then again, I could be wrong. I shouldn't have ruled out a coma so quickly. Did you just come out?
Or is it the "wolf" of helping black Americans thru criminal justice reform???
Right. Trump has been so good for "black Americans." Maybe next time he'll do something for all those poor white criminals.
Take note, AntiFa & CHOP/CHAZ scumbags..
Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab Protesters Off Portland Streets
https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/
A time of reckoning is at hand... :D
As an aside...
GT, it looks like my car battery got totally fried... Hopefully the lightning strike stopped there..
I'll know more when my daughter gets home with a new battery..
The battery was under a 2 yr warranty that expired this month.. So, the silver lining and all.. :D
I'll update ya as soon as I know..
Thanx again for the hints..
Trump's Long, Losing War with NFL...
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/17/donald-trump-long-losing-war-with-the-nfl-366000
President TRUMP is losing???
Remind me again how NFL viewership and attendance has plummeted???
Ya really got to wonder about the business sense of an organization that caters to people who DON'T EVEN LIKE FOOTBALL and ignore the crowd who is the NFL's bread and butter and who actively despise those that hate and disrespect this country and it's flag and anthem...
The first rule of business is THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT...
But the NFL is flipping the bird to it's customers that provide the paychecks of every NFL employee to cater to an America hating crowd that hates the NFL...
Somebody needs to go back to business school..
Of course Trump is working for the big money interests. How well is kept under control has nothing to do with who he is working for.
And yet, the FACTS simply do no support that conclusion...
If President Trump was being controlled by ANY interest, his actions would be a LOT different..
The fact that President Trump charts his own course proves your theory is not valid..
Ya'all know how I know when I have ya'all by the short and curlies...
Either ya'all respond with nit-picking, inanities and deflections..
or
{{ccchhhiiiirrrrpppppp}} {{{ccchhhiiirrrppp}}}
:D
Either way, it's a win by KO... :D
Point proven once again.. :D
"Silence = Consent"
-The Democrat Party
Washington Redskins Are Having Issues Changing Their Name Likely Due To Man Trademarking Over 40 Potential Names
https://brobible.com/sports/article/washington-redskins-martin-mccauley-trademark/
Once again, ya just gotta love the Karma..
APPEASEMENT never works... It just invites MORE headaches and trouble...
You are not just a tool- you are a useful idiot.
Point to Don...
The facts are that what Trump does benefits the big money interests.
For example....???
How well they control him is not the issue no matter how much you want it to be.
It's exactly the issues.. If big money interests do NOT control President Trump well or at all, then it's not factually accurate to say President Trump is controlled by big money interests..
That makes you another tool and useful idiot.
You can't use that again.. You already used it once..
Don't be redundant.. Really.. Don't be redundant..
GT...
SUCCESS!!!!
New battery in, all the power came on, car started right up... :D
Thanx again for the advice...
Don Harris
61
I do not care that you keep posting CW claiming me a troll.
You don't care so much that you're not mentioning it and later in the post, you'll be claiming I'm the troll because you don't care at all.
CW was wrong when he did that as I explained at the time and he never backed up that statement with any response to my pointing that out.
He was correct; he doesn't have to "back up that statement." You obviously are one.
It is no more relevant to reality than the trolling nonsense you post here.
The "reality" is that you're a troll who won't stop posting nonsense even when you were asked to stop.
I do not care if you are converted. I am only interested in getting CW to address this idea with rational discussion.
He doesn't have to do that. None of us do. It is a testament to your ignorance that you believe your trolling will somehow make him suddenly decide to do it.
Exactly what I am supposed to do.
"Supposed to do"? I believe you said it was Ralph Nader who told you to hound someone until you got an answer... so go troll the SOB who asked for it. The author of this blog asked you to stop. Why won't you listen to him?
And I will continue to do it until CW does what he is supposed to do- address reality and inform citizens honestly about other options instead of perpetuating the you only have two choices lie.
He's not "supposed to do" anything, troll, but thank you again for the admission that you're a troll.
You just don't like when I point out the emperor is naked when you want believe how wonderful you are that you can see the emperor's new clothes.
You don't know what I like, and you don't know what I think unless I tell you, troll.
You are not just a tool- you are a useful idiot.
A board troll called me an "idiot." #SSDD
Mike
64
Point to Don...
Said the inveterate moron who can't diagnose a simple drained battery. Are you sure it wasn't an EMP event or extraterrestrials didn't do a flyover and fry your vehicle with their nadion particle beam phasers?
Hey, drama queen, if you get a new battery and it's drained after a few hundred miles (give or take), you have a problem with your alternator. Duh!
"The fact that you resort to name-calling proves you are defensive and therefore find my opinion valid.."
-Spock, STAR TREK 90210
Like dynamiting fish in a barrel... :D
Don Harris
68
To CW and all-
Yes.
As none of us is going to convert the others and we all are claiming that others are delusional, let's get an independent objective observer viewpoint.
Let's don't. No one cares.
I propose that CW find a local professor of political science or socialogy that will give a few students the professor feels can be objective to review the articles and comments since I came here in 2015 and provide opinions on the behavior and accuracy of the comments, commenters and how CW handles the commenters when he feels he must intervene.
I propose you pound sand.
This is not a bet. There are no conditions attached to the results because the results may not all be the same.
Pardon me for pointing out the obvious fact that you basically sit on your ass and whine about how CW won't proactively inform people about your personal crusade. Now you're proposing that CW have posts analyzed in order to prove some kind of point, and you wonder why people believe you to be a lazy ass troll.
Anyone else have the balls to be subject to this scrutiny?
I have the balls and I have the brains enough to know that if you had either of those two things, you wouldn't constantly keep whining how somebody else needed to perform some kind of task for you that you can obviously do for yourself. Pound sand.
Said the inveterate moron who can't diagnose a simple drained battery.
"You mean to insult me? There is no dishonor in not knowing everything.."
-SubCommander T'al, STAR TREK, The Enterprise Incident
There is not even any dishonor in how you display your ignorance and stoopidity here on a daily, oft times HOURLY basis..
It just gives us all a good laugh... :D
Let's don't. No one cares.
Except you can't help but respond to EVERY ONE of Don's posts..
If you REALLY didn't care, you would ignore him...
I won't even bother to mention how it's a moronic inveterate who uses terms like "EVERYONE".... :D
Like dynamiting fish in a barrel... :D
Don Harris
70
CW has often lauded others for being persistent and not taking no answer for an answer.
You're not one of them, though.
CW is a public figure.
If you believe CW is a public figure, then you're a public figure too.
He does have a responsibility to address reality.
You are dumber than a barrel of hair if you believe your political opinions are reality.
Just saying CW is correct so he doesn't have to prove he is correct is moronic.
You are a troll; he is correct. You have actually confessed to being a troll. End of discussion.
Your posts prove my assessment of what you like is correct.
Typing things in coherent sentences is allowed; you should try it.
Hey, drama queen, if you get a new battery and it's drained after a few hundred miles (give or take), you have a problem with your alternator. Duh!
if the ability to diagnose and fix an automobile is how we are going to measure intelligence, i'd hate to see where on the scale i might fall.
JL
Michale
74
Except you can't help but respond to EVERY ONE of Don's posts..
Yes, Mike, I can help it. I choose. I do not respond to all of them. I pretend to be CW when I ignore him.
If you REALLY didn't care, you would ignore him...
I can actually think someone is infinitely ignorant yet still respond to their posts; I am tricky that way.
Like dynamiting fish in a barrel... :D
Your stale little routine is definitely like dead fish, and so is Don's.
JL
76
if the ability to diagnose and fix an automobile is how we are going to measure intelligence, i'd hate to see where on the scale i might fall.
Two things:
(1) We have years of posts so that we don't have to rely solely on the "how can you tell if a battery is dead regardless of whether it's in a car or flashlight" metric.
(2) You basically just gave a huge hint regarding your "ability" to diagnose an automobile.
if the ability to diagnose and fix an automobile is how we are going to measure intelligence, i'd hate to see where on the scale i might fall.
I know, right??
Vick seems to think that someone not knowing everything is worthy of denigration.. :D
That's why the SubCommander T'al quote is so apropos...
Yes, Mike, I can help it.
Except the FACTS prove otherwise... :D
I mean, you go on and on about how "everyone" doesn't care about Don's comments...
Thereby PROVING that you, at least, DO care..
Michale
79
Vick seems to think that someone not knowing everything is worthy of denigration.. :D
Oh, if only the ability of "knowing when a battery is drained" was the equivalent of "everything" you'd have a point, but it isn't... so you don't.
How Warren is shaping Biden's policies
As Joe Biden rolls out new policy details and speeches around his major campaign platforms, the hand of one primary-rival-turned-VP-contender is increasingly visible: Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
https://www.axios.com/warren-biden-influence-policies-76513650-bf21-4f32-8ca5-68802b35ebe9.html
How ironic...
For all the Democrats' talk of diversity and such...
Their chosen champions are two old white people.. :D
Ya can't make this stuff up...
Oh, if only the ability of "knowing when a battery is drained"
As usual, Vick makes claims to things no one said...
She has to change the facts in order to "prove" some moronic and inveterate "point" that has no factual basis..
Same old Vick... :D
“I truly miss the old CNN. The loss to journalism is immense. Indeed, if anything, it may be driving people to Trump.”
-Jonathan Turley
Yep...
That's what you people don't get...
The Media's HHPTDS is driving people into President Trump's camp....
Once again, given all the FACTS how can ANYONE think that the Democrat Party w/ their media lapdogs can win ANYTHING in Nov..
Michale
81
I mean, you go on and on about how "everyone" doesn't care about Don's comments...
You're incorrectly inventing language I never used.
Thereby PROVING that you, at least, DO care..
You're taking the phrase out of context and twisting my words. I said "no one cares" in response to his statement:
"No one cares" to get an "independent objective observer viewpoint" is my opinion. If somebody cares, then my opinion is wrong. It doesn't mean I give two shits about the content of his near-daily crusade.
It's not my problem if you're a poster who can't seem to stop yourself from turning every post into a personal discussion of the feelings and emotions of other posters on the board and invent fake quotes on their behalf, but I can assure you it's possible to respond to a post while definitely not giving a shit about the author of a board post.
Just like ya don't give a shit about my comments...
And yet, here you are, arguing hysterically about them.. :D
Again, the facts give away exactly how much you DO care...
Saying over and over how much you don't care simply proves how much you DO care.. :D
Michale
84
As usual, Vick makes claims to things no one said...
Except I quoted you.
If I had your debating skills, I'd definitely adopt your routine of devolving every single issue into the same shit over and over... I just wouldn't be ignorant enough to think that I fooled anybody else.
She has to change the facts in order to "prove" some moronic and inveterate "point" that has no factual basis..
Next thing you know I'll claim that somebody who quoted me invented something, and not long after that I'll probably be making up fake quotes and false emotions and feelings for anyone who doesn't agree with my pablum puking right-wing conspiracy theory bullshit. I'm tricky that way.
Except I quoted you.
Why do you lie when it's easy for EVERYONE to see I *NEVER* used the word "drained"...
Only you did..
Once again, Vick is proven to be a serial liar...
You just choose to be or act stupid,
You just HAVE to know that it's not an act.. Vick is, indeed, that stoopid... :D
Except I quoted you.
Reminds me of the time when you claimed I said you were on USENET.. Never made any such statement..
As usual, you lied about the facts to try and make some bullshit argument..
Like dynamiting fish in a barrel!!
BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Don Harris
87
Troll.
You just choose to be or act stupid, repeat things because if you say it it's true (in your mind)
You trolls have something in common in that you both profess the ability to know what's in people's minds. You both keep assigning emotions and feelings to people you don't know and telling everyone else what they're thinking. Don, you whining about somebody "repeating things" is hysterical.
... because you can't or won't be coherent and rational as that would mean you would have to admit that all you do is post bullshit.
Newsflash: I don't have to do a thing or "admit" a thing. No one here has to do a damn thing they don't want to do, and all the trolling in the world on any troll's part isn't necessarily going to change that fact. Time to clue in.
Michale
88
Just like ya don't give a shit about my comments...
Like I said, you have to turn everything into a personal discussion about the other poster. You obviously need some attention. Why don't you turn a conversation that isn't about you into a conversation about you. #SSDD
And yet, here you are, arguing hysterically about them.. :D
Here you are inserting yourself into a conversation that wasn't about you and then turning it around and making it about you and then assigning feelings and emotions to somebody who wasn't talking about you. Do you need some more attention? It doesn't get much more hysterical than that.
Again, the facts give away exactly how much you DO care...
Again, it wasn't a discussion about me personally until it interrupted and turned it into one, and it wasn't a discussion about you until you did the same thing. Did you need some attention?
Saying over and over how much you don't care simply proves how much you DO care.. :D
Except I'm not doing that. Did you need some attention? Believe me when I tell you that it's quite easy to post a shitstorm of comments and still not care about having them submitted by CW in order to get an "independent objective observer's viewpoint" regarding my apathetic posts. :)
Rockets' James Harden criticized for wearing 'Thin Blue Line' mask in return to NBA
Harden is on track to win his third consecutive scoring title
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/rockets-james-harden-criticized-thin-blue-line-mask-nba
Political slogans are perfectly acceptable in the NBA....
As long as the slogans ARE acceptable to the cop-hating cop-killing hysterical Democrats....
:eyeroll:
Rapper Young Thug, a friend of Harden’s, also wrote on Twitter: “he don’t have internet so he obviously don’t know what’s right or wrong if he posted something that’s against US.”
Oh.. I see.. According to Dumbocrat nitwits, someone needs the Internet to know what is right and wrong??
Why am I not surprised... :eyeroll:
Re comment #106
Once again, Vick being hysterical and showing how much she doesn't care about my comments.. :D
Grant Imahara died... :(
RIP Lt Sulu...
RIP Ruth Bader Ginsburg....
^^^^ Future Comment....
Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been undergoing chemotherapy to treat recurrence of cancer
The announcement comes after being discharged from the hospital earlier this week for another health issue
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-has-been-undergoing-chemotherapy-to-treat-recurrence-of-cancer
President Trump will soon get another SCOTUS pick... :D
Which is good, since Chief Justice Roberts always seems to confuse the law with his hatred of President Trump...
Michale
92
Reminds me of the time when you claimed I said you were on USENET.. Never made any such statement..
I never claimed that you made any such statement. I merely informed you in response to your statement about Usenet that I was never on Usenet... at least not yet. Informing you that I was never on Usenet isn't the equivalent of claiming that you said I was on there.
See there? I did not for one single second claim that you said I was on Usenet. I just explained that I wasn't on there in response to a statement you made. Where is the accusation that you said I was on there? You have this propensity to invent things in your head a lot and misconstrue and get confused frequently... definitely a common occurrence for you.
As usual, you lied about the facts to try and make some bullshit argument..
Your projection is duly noted. You see things that aren't there.
So to recap: I never said what you're claiming I said, I responded to your comment. Big difference. Responding to your comment and accusing you of saying something (which I did not) are two entirely different things. If you can't tell the difference, then you've got mental problems to go along with your reading comprehension issues.
Michale
99
RIP Ruth Bader Ginsburg....
^^^^ Future Comment....
Oh, look. Mike has predicted that a person who is human will die in the future. So it's down to this, is it?
I predict a human will die. Pick one at random. :)
Don Harris
100
I do not profess to know what is in your mind.
Yes, you do. See your bullshit at [87].
Here let me help you:
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/07/16/trump-gets-schooled/#comment-163963
Now, I'm done with your repetitive drivel and spew for the day. Sod off.
Lunch! :)
I never claimed that you made any such statement.
And yet, you did..
I've never been on usenet... at least I haven't yet.
-Vick
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/07/06/stringing-some-sentences-together/#comment-163048
I never said what you're claiming I said, I responded to your comment.
By claiming you have never been on USENET.. But I never said you were on USENET so, as usual, your claim is bullshit..
Just like when you claimed I said anything about a "drained" battery, which I did not..
Once again, Vick is caught in a plethora of lies.. :D
Like dynamiting fish in a barrel :D
Run Away.... Run Away.....
See Vick Run Away...... :D
By claiming you have never been on USENET.. But I never said you were on USENET so, as usual, your claim is bullshit..
And irrelevant to my comment..
As I said, you always respond with bullshit inanities and irrelevance to dodge and deflect the fact that you lose every time.. :D
Run Away.... Run Away.....
See Vick Run Away...... :D
Run Vick, Run... Run Away... :D
State Troopers union threatens to pull officers from NYC: 'Can't have two sets of rules' in one state
Union head says the New York city rule has made it 'extremely tough to arrest a violent person'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/state-troopers-nyc-rules-police
What *IS* it about cop-hating Democrats that they are so utterly and completely clueless???
Still waiting for the Biden campaign to disavow this from one of his staffers...
http://sjfm.us/pics/pigs.jpg
Biden's cop-hating bona fides are well documented...
And ya'all think this will win him the election?? :D
On what planet!???
And the largest Police organization in the country has, after a history of backing Democrats, have forgone their endorsement of Joe Biden in favor of the Law And Order POTUS, President Donald Trump...
You people can't see it but the writing is already on the wall..
The Democrat Party is the Party of cop-hating, cop-killing, cop-abolishing morons..
ANYONE who is a patriotic American simply cannot, in good conscience, vote for Joe Biden...
FACT CHECK FAIL
USA Today backs off 'fact-check' tying Trump campaign shirts with Nazi symbol
Article now says claim 'inconclusive'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/usa-today-backs-off-claim-trump-campaign-sold-shirts-with-nazi-symbol-admits-eagles-prominent-in-american-imagery-too
This is exactly why it's impossible to take hysterical Trump/America haters seriously...
They go off half-cocked with total bullshit and claim it's "fact checked"...
That's why I laugh at ya'all's "fact check"s..
Because they really ain't.. :D
Biden says some funding should 'absolutely' be redirected from police
Biden also said police forces don’t need surplus military equipment because it makes them look like 'the enemy' in communities
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-says-some-funding-should-absolutely-be-redirected-from-police
So, Joe Biden supports defunding Police..
And what's the first thing that's going to be cut?
Training and patrol officers...
So, basically, the Democrat Party's plan is to take officers OFF the streets and then ones that are left, don't train as well..
Yea....
THAT will solve the "problem"... :eyeroll:
Does the Democrat Party understand how utterly MORONIC their plan is???
Hey, Kick, in an otherwise barren Comments section, I enjoyed your kicking our two trolls around, and agree you are aptly named "Kick."
It's tempting to slap 'em down, but it's sometimes interesting to watch Brothers Don and (especially) Michale escalate the outrageousness of their comments because otherwise no one will pay attention to them.
Namáste, Amiga.
It's tempting to slap 'em down, but it's sometimes interesting to watch Brothers Don and (especially) Michale escalate the outrageousness of their comments because otherwise no one will pay attention to them.
Says the guy who spent 20 comments JONESIN' for me in the commentary a couple days ago.. :D
How has your Police Reform idea panned out, eh sunshine??? :D
BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
‘It was like being preyed upon’: Portland protesters say federal officers in unmarked vans are detaining them
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/
Gestapo tactics against Anti-Fascists. Well, at least it 100% validates their movement...
140,888 Americans dead from Coronavirus and counting...
You ain't gonna get no Police Reform plan from me that you appear fixated on, er, Sunshine. Even if I were able to solve a complicated problem like that it'd wasted on someone who doesn't think the problem even exists. And someone not interested in serious discussion, but rather trolling.
But all is not lost, troll. Here's something to suck on...1351
...[shhhhhhhhh! Jedi mind tricks experiment in progress...]
NYC Black Lives Matter leader says cops acting like 'babies,' not accepting that 'they've done wrong'
Activist calls on officers to 'gird up their loins' and stop 'digging their heels in and crying'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/hawk-newsome-kilmeade-cops-black-lives-matter
Says the whiney bitch snowflake who acts like a baby and can't admit he does anything wrong..
What *IS* it about you Democrats that ya'all always blame other people for what Democrats are guilty of???
You ain't gonna get no Police Reform plan from me that you appear fixated on, er, Sunshine.
Of course not.. You lied when you claimed you had ideas for Police Reform..
Just another bitch Democrat liar..
And someone not interested in serious discussion, but rather trolling.
Of course I am interested in serious discussion.. Which is why you claimed you had ideas on Police Reform.. But then you claimed you had to "think about it"..
And now you admit you lied by claiming you are not going to have a serious discussion about Police Reform..
Let's face reality, dood.. You KNEW you were going to be bitch-slapped across all of Weigantian, given my well established bona-fides in LEO, Military et al...
So you knew you were trapped and now you concede how full of shit you were for everyone to see... :D
I accept your concession, bitch... :D
You've been PWNED..
Dismissed...
How sophomoric...
"What I'm saying to you is, if we're talking about a doctor who's operating on people and he's killing people, we don't just give him a pass," Newsome told Kilmeade. "We look at the facts and we say, 'Hey, this doctor was negligent. He should have his license revoked.'"
But if the patient does something stoopid, like getting up in the middle of an operation and dies, then it's the patients own stoopidity that got him killed and no negligence on the part of the Doctor is involved..
So, when an obese scumbag druggie that has heart problems and his system is rife with meth and fentynal and he decides to fight the cops and his body gives out...
That's the same thing as the stoopid patient and the cop is responsible for nothing but doing his job the way he was trained to do it..
People who are killed by cops virtually ALL have one thing in common...
They were stoopid and they fought the law..
The law won...
End of story...
"QUIT BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE!!!"
-Jim Carrey, LIAR LIAR
How sophomoric...
From a moron like you, that's a compliment... :D
Thank you, Blathy... :D
But back to the accusation theme... America is not prepared for schools opening this fall. This will be bad
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/13/america-schools-coronavirus-covid-19-children?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Accusation? The article's theme.
Michale
I mean, none of ya'all (with Russ being the obvious exception) have come out against Defund/Abolish Police.. Not a single commentary against it..
Yeah, I said I had no problem with defunding the police from handling mental health calls as long as we fund agencies to pick up that responsibility.
I also made it clear that your attempt to combine “defund/abolish” as if they are the same exact things is either you showing off your ignorance or your dishonesty. With you, it is hard to tell most days. But “defunding” is NOT the same thing as “abolishing”. And even “abolish” doesn’t have the effect that you are trying to portray. We do not have lawless areas in our country. If a local police department is abolished, it falls on the county’s sheriff department to cover calls for service. Yes, it may cause major slow downs in service, but they won’t be completely without law enforcement as you seem to imply.
And the largest Police organization in the country has, after a history of backing Democrats, have forgone their endorsement of Joe Biden in favor of the Law And Order POTUS, President Donald Trump..
Well, the FOP did decide to endorse Trump in 2016, but he was the only one they could endorse. That was because Clinton’s camp failed to turn in the proper paperwork required by the group to be considered for endorsement. So the FOP were going to back Trump, or not endorse any candidate.
And the FOP has not endorsed Trump in 2020. Michale is a full of shit wanna-be cop whose own failure to follow his training as an MP resulted in him taking a life. And he wonders why no department would hire him out of the military! So sad...boo hoo!
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No one here wants to discuss your personal life.
I guess we're back where we were. In this comments section, at post #127, over half the posts and over a third of the writing is by one poster, none of which addresses Chris' subject for the day. Alarmingly, another quarter of the posts and third of the writing is solely in response to those off-topic posts.
Only one-tenth of the thread's posts, and less than one-sixth of the writing, actually comments on Chris's essay on the president's clash with the American school system in the midst of the plague, and almost all of those comments went up before the first one by the predominant poster.
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Yeah, I know. I guess DonMichale pay Chris pretty good for him to subject the rest of us to these two clowns.
Okay, since it's gonna be Joe, I'm looking for weaknesses. From Biden’s Bad Foreign-Policy Ideas in The Atlantic.
Joe Biden has been wrong a lot on foreign and defense policy. A lot. This year’s presumptive Democratic presidential nominee voted against the 1991 Gulf War, in which the United States and a broad multinational coalition quickly achieved their goals, and in favor of the 2003 Iraq War, and regretted both votes. Years into hostilities, he opposed the troop surges that brought some stability to both Iraq and Afghanistan and even insisted that “the Taliban per se is not our enemy.” He argued for carving Iraq into sectarian statelets even as Iraqis voted for cross-sectarian political lists. And he opposed the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. These stances suggest not only that he lacks a philosophy of how to use military force effectively, but also that his instincts on when to use it are often faulty.
It goes on to point out disturbing similarities between Trump's and Biden's foreign policies: neither are crazy about trade (Joe has generally voted for Democrat trade agreements and against Repug deals.)
Both want to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq, but have no plan for what happens next.
And both will use drones/Special Forces to reach into countries to kill people we're afraid of, but neither is much interested in doing the nation building needed to end the terrorism.
Joe has time, but Trump will exploit these vulnerabilities like nobody's business, so a reboot (and extra scrutiny on the VP pick's foreign policy bona fides - hello Susan Rice!)
Michale
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And yet, you did..
Thank you for making my point, and -- oh, look -- you can cut and paste links too! There's nowhere in there where I accuse you of what you said so congratulations, you're ignorant as well as delusional.
Here let me try to put this in terms that your tiny little pea brain might be able to understand. I'll even use small words so that maybe you'll have a breakthrough or epiphany:
* If you bring up the topic of "Spain," and I respond, "I've never been to Spain," that is me making a statement about your topic. If for some reason you believe that my statement regarding your topic is somehow an accusation that you accused me of going to Spain, then you're imagining things that aren't there and never were.
* If you bring up the topic of the movie "Pulp Fiction," and I respond that I've never seen the movie "Pulp Fiction," that is me making a statement about your topic. If for some reason you believe that my statement regarding your topic is somehow an accusation that you accused me of never having seen the move "Pulp Fiction," then you're inventing a statement I never made.
* If you bring up the topic of "Usenet," and I respond that I've never been on "Usenet," that is me making a statement about the subject you wrote about; however, that is in no way whatsoever me accusing you of saying that I had never been on there. It just isn't.
You can't present an instance of me accusing you of saying that because it only exists in your tiny little mind that does have a propensity toward dramatization and conspiracy theory nonsense.
By claiming you have never been on USENET.. But I never said you were on USENET so, as usual, your claim is bullshit..
Claiming that I have never been on there isn't some magical phrase that invents another other phrase. I've never been to Mars either, but if you start talking about Mars, and I respond I've never been to Mars, that isn't also an accusation that you've somehow accused me of having gone there. Damn, you're as dumb as they come if you believe it does.
Just like when you claimed I said anything about a "drained" battery, which I did not..
Language is not something you should trifle with because you suck at it. You mentioned a fried battery and actually followed that up with some of that overdramatized thinking that your tiny little brain tends to gravitate toward. Thank you for proving my point there; your mind has a propensity to invent things.
Like dynamiting fish in a barrel :D
It sure is, but you're the fish who appears to have missed being in school.