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Closing Time Schedule

[ Posted Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020 – 15:44 UTC ]

I'm not even going to try to write an article today, because nobody would likely even read it. We're all just waiting for the results to start appearing anyway, so I thought I'd file this as a placeholder column so we can all start fresh down in the comments section tonight.

I got the following list of poll closure times from the Washington Post, which has a much more detailed list, but I just wanted to post the main information as a summary. Caveats: Other sources I checked differed on whether a few states would report some results an hour earlier (such as Oregon), and already there are a handful of counties here and there which have been granted extended polling hours. But other than that, this list should do. And, just to show everyone how much more pleasant it is to watch the results out here, all times are given in Pacific Standard Time (which is when I'll be seeing them).

Without further ado, here is the basic list of the schedule of state poll closing times. "Partial Results" means there are some counties which close early, and some which close late. Most often (but not in all cases), this is due to a time zone line splitting the state. "Completed Results" is the follow-up to Partial Results. And "Full Results" means that polls across the entire state close at the same time.

 

3:00 P.S.T.

Partial Results

Indiana
Kentucky

 


4:00 P.S.T.

Partial Results

Florida
New Hampshire

 

Completed Results

Indiana
Kentucky

 

Full Results

Georgia
South Carolina
Vermont
Virginia

 

4:30 P.S.T.

Full Results

North Carolina
Ohio
West Virginia

 

5:00 P.S.T.

Partial Results

Kansas
Michigan
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas

 

Completed Results

Florida
New Hampshire

 

Full Results

Alabama
Connecticut
Delaware
Illinois
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Mississippi
Missouri
New Jersey
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Tennessee
Washington, D.C.

 

5:30 P.S.T.

Full Results

Arkansas

 

6:00 P.S.T.

Completed Results

Kansas
Michigan
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas

 

Full Results

Arizona
Colorado
Louisiana
Minnesota
Nebraska
New Mexico
New York
Wisconsin
Wyoming

 

7:00 P.S.T.

Partial Results

Idaho

 

Full Results

Iowa
Montana
Nevada
Utah

 

8:00 P.S.T.

Completed Results

Idaho

 

Full Results

California
Oregon
Washington

 

9:00 P.S.T.

Partial Results

Alaska

 

Full Results

Hawai'i

 

10:00 P.S.T.

Completed Results

Alaska

 

OK, has everyone laid in the proper election-watching supplies? I leave that one up to the individual, in terms of what it covers. So let's all sit back and watch the returns roll in, shall we?

"Another county heard from!"

-- Chris Weigant

 

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297 Comments on “Closing Time Schedule”

  1. [1] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Remember, there's no place for hate in America.

    All Things Dull And Ugly

  2. [2] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i would absolutely read it. whether in exultation or horror, i'd read.

  3. [3] 
    Kick wrote:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    All things scabbed and ulcerous,
    all pox, both great and small;
    Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
    the Lord God made them all.
    Amen.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    *
    And Amen. Nice. :)

  4. [4] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls VT for Biden, KY for Trump.

    And so it begins...

    -CW

  5. [5] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    CNN calls IN for Trump, too.

    -CW

  6. [6] 
    Kick wrote:

    Bellwether in Florida, Pinellas County

    Biden 53.6%
    Trump 45.4%

    Same 8% shift I'm seeing across multiple counties. Good news for Biden, y'all since Trump won Pinellas (and Florida) by ~1% in 2016.

    Indies are breaking for Biden. :)

  7. [7] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    FL - Biden pulls ahead with 43% (AP) and a lead of 200K+

    But as we all know, in FL it all depends WHICH counties have been counted...

    -CW

  8. [8] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls WV for Trump right as polls close. No surprise.

    -CW

  9. [9] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls VA for Biden.

    -CW

  10. [10] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls SC for Biden.

    Get ready for a flood of top-of-the-hour data...

    -CW

  11. [11] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW
    10

    AP calls SC for Biden.

    What are they smoking?

  12. [12] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls a number of races:

    Trump - MS, TN, AL, OK

    Biden - MD, DE, NJ, CT, RI, MA

    All pretty easy-to-call races, of course.

    Many Dems are now worried about chances in FL...

    -CW

  13. [13] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    I think you made a typo CW, I'm seeing AP calling SC for Trump.

  14. [14] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    And IL for Biden, too.

    -CW

  15. [15] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Whoops! And I haven't even STARTED drinking yet!

    Heh.

    You are right -- SC was called for TRUMP. Don't know what I was thinking...

    -CW

  16. [16] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Trump just passed Biden in FL, with 82% in...

    -CW

  17. [17] 
    John M from Ct. wrote:

    Chris, I'm not following in real time, just using this thread as a proxy. And that SC-for-Biden slip really threw me. Thanks for the correction.

  18. [18] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    I'll try to be more careful, promise!

    DC called by CNN, but for some reason not AP yet. Should be the easiest Dem race to call in the entire country...

    -CW

  19. [19] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Oh, sorry, "DC called for Biden"...

    :-)

    -CW

  20. [20] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls AR for Trump. Again, no surprise. One org. has already called FL for Trump, but nobody else has jumped in yet.

    -CW

  21. [21] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Another big tranche in 5 min...

    -CW

  22. [22] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    What's going on in Virginia? Your poll columns had that as a pretty safe Biden state, but Trump's leading it quite decisively so far. Is it just the counties that have been reporting, or is there an unanticipated Trump surge in the state?

  23. [23] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls IL for Biden. No surprise at all.

    -CW

  24. [24] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Bleyd -

    Don't sweat VA. AP's already called it. Northern VA is where all the Dem votes are, so check the counties around DC to see how many of them are in yet.

    -CW

  25. [25] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP: Trump wins LA, ND, SD, NE, WY.

    Biden wins NY, NM, CT

    -CW

  26. [26] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    CW-
    Kinda figured that might be the case with Virginia, but I'm nervous as hell tonight. I remember watching with horror 4 years ago as Trump slowly won state after state that he wasn't expected to.

  27. [27] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    According to AP called states, here's the EV breakdown:

    Biden - 119
    Trump - 94

    -CW

  28. [28] 
    Kick wrote:

    Ohio is looking good so far. If Ohio goes Blue, y'all know what that means. :)

  29. [29] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Oh, forgot NJ, called for Biden.

    -CW

  30. [30] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i think we've learned the hard way not to count any chickens. just watching to see if they hatch or not.

  31. [31] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Kick -

    "What's a Buckeye?"
    "Some kind of nut."

    Joke I learned as a kid from Michigan relatives...

    Heh.

    -CW

  32. [32] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    Texas still has Biden with a small lead with 65% counted. That lead's been shrinking quickly though, so I'm afraid that it probably won't hold.

  33. [33] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Or were you referring to the rule-of-thumb: "No Republican has ever won the presidency without winning Ohio"?

    :-)

    -CW

  34. [34] 
    nypoet22 wrote:
  35. [35] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @cw that link was for you, both the music and the pictures.

  36. [36] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    My dad's from Michigan, so he's not a big fan of buckeyes. Imagine his dismay when I bought my first house, and it was on "Buckeye Drive".

  37. [37] 
    Kick wrote:

    Chris Weigant
    31

    "What's a Buckeye?"
    "Some kind of nut."

    Heh.

    Joke I learned as a kid from Michigan relatives.

    Well, Biden winning Ohio would end it for Trump, and that would definitely be nuts. :)

  38. [38] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW
    33

    Or were you referring to the rule-of-thumb: "No Republican has ever won the presidency without winning Ohio"?

    Yep... that's the one... because "never" is a lot of history to overcome. :)

  39. [39] 
    Kick wrote:

    I need a flipper. Give me a flipper. Any freaking flipper!

  40. [40] 
    nypoet22 wrote:
  41. [41] 
    Kick wrote:

    That's an imposter! ;)

  42. [42] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    mmm, single malt and babka. not quite pie, but oh well.

  43. [43] 
    chaszzzbrown wrote:

    [39] Kick

    First flipper I see: John Hickenlooper called by Decision Desk (on vox). Yay!!

  44. [44] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    OK... back from a beer run... what'd I miss?

    -CW

  45. [45] 
    Kick wrote:

    chaszzzbrown
    43

    Charles Brown, Esq. delivers a bona fide flipper!
    Good. Got another one?

    Arizona maybe. ~ Starman

    https://youtu.be/teZ52l28tys?t=101

  46. [46] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    kittens!

  47. [47] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Looks like AP called DC (duh) and CO for Biden...

    -CW

  48. [48] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    nypoet22 -

    OK, the music was kinda slow, but I liked the cat photos!

    :-)

    -CW

  49. [49] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Per Chuck Todd, VA is counting all Election Day voting first, then afterwards will count mail-in votes. Which Dems lead.

    -CW

  50. [50] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    KS goes for Trump.

    -CW

  51. [51] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    I am very worried right now. Can someone give me a reason not to panic?

  52. [52] 
    Kick wrote:

    Bleyd
    51

    I am very worried right now. Can someone give me a reason not to panic?

    Arizona... maybe. :)

  53. [53] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I think many Americans don't like it when they hear that 'we are better than this' and, frankly, I can see their point.

  54. [54] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls MO for Trump.

    Total EV:

    Biden - 131
    Trump - 108

    -CW

  55. [55] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Especially when the people saying that "we are better than [you]" are the so-called insiders and elites.

  56. [56] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, the likes of Tom Friedman going around saying the sky is falling doesn't help the Democratic cause.

  57. [57] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Here's why not to panic. The media talking heads are mostly completely falling down on the job of explaining which votes have been counted and which have not. The difference between mail-in and same-day votes may be huge in some states. Some states counted mail-in first, others count them last. Several counties in PA won't even start counting them until tomorrow. But the journalists aren't really stressing this at all -- which is a shame, because it is different for every state. Check the commentary on FiveThirtyEight, as one source that is discussing this in depth. Some of these states may be lost causes (FL, for instance). But many of the others are not, for various reasons.

    And all Biden needs is to hold WI and MI and pick up ONE of the following: PA, OH, NC, GA, Fl, TX, AZ.

    So as the Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy would say:

    Don't panic!

    Yet...

    -CW

  58. [58] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    LizM -

    Haven't listened to that blowhard for years, personally. Sad that he's infesting your television.

    :-)

    -CW

  59. [59] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I'm not panicing, really, just getting the beginnings of a very bad feeling.

  60. [60] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I used to love reading his columns but, lately, he's gone off the deep end and has been making Trump's point.

  61. [61] 
    Kick wrote:

    Chris Weigant
    57

    Exactly!

    And Trump is underperforming in the North and Northeast compared to 2016... where he won three states by less than 78,000 votes combined.

  62. [62] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    CNN is actaully doing a very good job of reporting the results that are coming and what percentage of those votes are early votes and what the early vote percentage is expected to be.

  63. [63] 
    Kick wrote:

    I actually expected more of a "red mirage" in the North where many of the same-day votes have been reported and absentee/mail-in ballots haven't, and I'm just not seeing it... so far. :)

  64. [64] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    OK, another top of the hour coming up, and it's going to be a good one for Biden, with an easy 74 EV.

    -CW

  65. [65] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    It's easy for a Democrat to get to 192 EV's. Let's see if Biden can do the hard stuff.

  66. [66] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    OK, here we go:

    ID for Trump

    but CA, OR, WA for Biden. Oh, hey, and NH too.

    EV:

    Biden 209
    Trump 112

    -CW

  67. [67] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    LizM -

    Tonight, it's going to be "easy to get to 259". It's the last 11 that are going to be tougher.

    -CW

  68. [68] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    UT also called for Trump. No surprises there.

    -CW

  69. [69] 
    Kick wrote:

    Arizona maybe. :)

  70. [70] 
    chaszzzbrown wrote:

    Welcome aboard, Senator Mark Kelly.

  71. [71] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    So, fifteen minutes before Trump calls the election for himself.

  72. [72] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    How is it easy for Biden to get to 259?

  73. [73] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    chaszzz -

    They called it for Kelly? Wow, I gotta check that out, that's +1 for Dems, net.

    -CW

  74. [74] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    I've been so focused on the presidential race, I haven't been paying as much attention to the other races, I admit.

    But I do know that recreational marijuana won in at least two states so far, AZ and NJ. Two others are on the ballot...

    -CW

  75. [75] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    it's going to be a nail-biter, no doubt.

  76. [76] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    How so?

  77. [77] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I think it's over, for all intents and purposes, in more ways than one.

    Biden is about to speak ... :(

  78. [78] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Mississippi approved their new non-Confederate state flag. So that's a silver lining, of sorts...

    -CW

  79. [79] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, I'm calling it a night.

  80. [80] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Not to Remember. Ahem.

  81. [81] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    half the votes in wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania haven't been counted yet.

  82. [82] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:
  83. [83] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW

    Minnesota
    Hawaii

  84. [84] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Hearin' the song of a thousand and one politicians
    They sing you a song but the words are the same as before
    They deal you a hand, but all of the aces are missin'
    I feel the earth movin' under my feet
    Where the heart keeps jumpin' a beat
    Shakin' the house down, wakin' me up from a dream

  85. [85] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    video not available

  86. [86] 
    Kick wrote:

    Biden could still win Georgia.
    There are outstanding ballots.

  87. [87] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @kick,

    i don't think the numbers are there in GA

  88. [88] 
    Kick wrote:

    Georgia: Fulton County, Dekalb County

  89. [89] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    OK, here's where we stand before Biden speaks:

    MT, IA, OH for Trump

    HI for Biden.

    Total EV:

    Biden - 213
    Trump - 147

    -CW

  90. [90] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet
    87

    i don't think the numbers are there in GA

    I don't know whether they are or not, but Fulton County and Dekalb County are huge and have a ton of outstanding ballots still unreported.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-georgia-president.html

  91. [91] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:
  92. [92] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, it really is over.

    Good night and good luck!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g1231eTbpM

  93. [93] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    LizM -

    Shades of The Guess Who?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkqfpkTTy2w

    Heh.

    G'night...

    :-)

    -CW

  94. [94] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Biden gave a pretty good speech for the troops, I have to admit...

    -CW

  95. [95] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP calls MN for Biden. The first brick in the new blue wall...

    -CW

  96. [96] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AP: IA and FL for Trump.

    Total EV:

    Biden - 223
    Trump - 174

    -CW

  97. [97] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Biden gave a pretty good speech for the troops, I have to admit...

    I couldn't stomach more the first few seconds of it and turned him off when he said that he feels like he's in a good place.

    D-E-L-U-S-I-O-N-A-L

  98. [98] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    well, this time around i hope to wake up to something better.

  99. [99] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    AP calls MN for Biden. The first brick in the new blue wall...

    Ha! That's a good one. Let's face reality, shall we?

  100. [100] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @liz,

    why all doom and gloom? WI, MI and PA are all far from over. they have barely even started counting mail-in ballots yet.

    JL

  101. [101] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Seriously?

    No, I've watched enough of these presidential elections and Biden primarys to know when it's over.

  102. [102] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    cue michale...

  103. [103] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I wish I could sleep. And, the damned scotch and soda cabinet is dry. Plus, the Nighty Night tea isn't working, either.

    Oh, well ... I'll sleep when I'm dead.

  104. [104] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    cue michale...

    Let's not and say we did.

  105. [105] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Don't get caught in the red mirage, everyone...

    Just had to say that...

    -CW

  106. [106] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Heh.

  107. [107] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    But LizM, you haven't answered the question...

    Are you channelling the most-famous Canuck song about the USA yet? The Guess Who was massively underrated, that's what I think...

    :-)

    -CW

  108. [108] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Personally, I'm shifting from beer to Myer's Dark rum. I can't even imagine what it must be like for those of you on advanced time zones...

    :-)

    -CW

  109. [109] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    I do notice not everyone's predicted TX, that gives me a sliver of hope...

    -CW

  110. [110] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Jim Morrison is a drunken buffoon posing as a poet. Give me the Guess Who. They have the courage to BE drunken buffoons, which MAKES them poetic.
    ~almost famous

  111. [111] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Semi-stoned I awoke, looking at the tv a CNN tv poker, sounding like Charlie Brown's mother, is pointing at a screen showing Trump at 287 ECV...

    I came to, seems the guy was showing possibilities...

    Time to fix that clock above the tv...

    LL&P

  112. [112] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    colkegan california single malt for me.

  113. [113] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Chris,

    It doesn't get any better than American Woman by the Guess Who. And, a nice flip side to that has always been PRiSM's American Music! Leave it to two fine Canadian rock bands to tell the story of America, on a Night to Forget ... :)

  114. [114] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Oh, I love Jim Morrison and the vibe that radiated from him. :)

  115. [115] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Biden projected to win NE-2. Which might be important...

    -CW

  116. [116] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Keep dreamin' ...

  117. [117] 
    Michale wrote:

    BBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABBBBWWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  118. [118] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    That's quite enough from you.

  119. [119] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    I always thought the best answer to "American Woman" was "Suite Madame Blue" by Styx, personally:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkkQPxoxJJY

    :-)

    -CW

  120. [120] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW
    115

    Yes, NE-2 could be big, and it's a flipper. That makes NE-2 the first flipper of the night, does it not?

    Arizona maybe will be the other flipper. Those combine to matter... assuming Nevada goes Blue. :)

  121. [121] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Lol...Mr Hunt, long time no miss.

    How's life in the land on the three-toed people?

    LL&P

  122. [122] 
    Michale wrote:

    And ya'all REALLY thought ya could make FL and TX blue!!!???

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  123. [123] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    No, it's American Music.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgkFjisCqM

    Don't make me cry ... my October Styx concert in Niagara Fall was outright canceled after first being postponed.

  124. [124] 
    Michale wrote:
  125. [125] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Love Gowan singing Suite Madame Blue - since this fine Canadian singer/songwriter joined Styx in 1999 the band has had a new found energy ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMsU1FMRQKo

  126. [126] 
    Michale wrote:

    'Nuck...

    Here...

    I figured you would be at a loss for words..

    So please.. Let me help you out...

    Well, I have to come clean.. Michale was right about everything and I was totally full of shit... I thought I was soooo clever with my Discovery 3/The Burn crap.. Guess I was just burning myself... How does Michale do it!?? How can he read the facts so perfectly and predict everything so accurately!! It's like he's a time traveler and travels to the future to see and then comes back here!! Well, once again, Michale proves he is homo-superior and we all are just homo-moronic...
    -James T Canuck

  127. [127] 
    Michale wrote:

    Face reality, people..

    PRESIDENT Trump's leads in WI, NC, GA and PA are just too large for Basement Biden to have a chance...

    And ya'all thought Basement Biden actually had a chance!!!???

    BBBBBWWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  128. [128] 
    Michale wrote:

    "A pall just descended in here"
    -Cyenk Unger, YOUNG TURKS ELECTION BUTTHURT 2016

    :D

  129. [129] 
    Michale wrote:

    Wow.. You people SURE got quiet all of the sudden...

    "Gee!! I wonder why that is!!??"
    -Kevin Spacey, THE NEGOTIATOR

    BWBWBWBWBWBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  130. [130] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Here's another live performance of Styx with Gowan at the helm,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NlAa6XgKCo

  131. [131] 
    Michale wrote:

    And ya'all REALLY thought ya could make FL and TX blue!!!???

    I mean, SERIOUSLY people!!!????

    Ya'all ACTUALLY thought that TEXAS would go for Basement Biden???

    BBBBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  132. [132] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Face reality, people...lol, pure gold from our quasi-resident rodent.

    They let you out for dull behaviour, Michale, will your blunders never cease to amaze.

    Percy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSZca1Q9IWA

    LL&P

  133. [133] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    texas and georgia were basically pipe dreams. wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania will be where the outcome is decided.

  134. [134] 
    Michale wrote:

    'Nuck,

    They let you out for dull behaviour, Michale, will your blunders never cease to amaze.

    You mean, the "blunder" where I called the 2106 Presidential Election perfectly???

    You mean, the "blunder" where I called the 2020 Presidential Election perfectly??

    Are THOSE the kinds of "blunders" yer talking about????

    Yea... don't YOU wish you could make those kinds of "blunders"!!?? :D

    BBBBBWBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  135. [135] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    texas and georgia were basically pipe dreams. wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania will be where the outcome is decided.

    texas and georgia were basically pipe dreams. wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania will be where the outcome has been decided.

    There, fixed it for you... :D

    Yes, TX and GA were basically wet dreams for ya'all (NEN)...

  136. [136] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    okay, has been decided. either way, the outcome of those states is at the present unknown. two out of three wins the presidency.

  137. [137] 
    Michale wrote:

    They let you out for dull behaviour, Michale, will your blunders never cease to amaze.

    Percy.

    "What's that, dumbarse??"
    -Andy Warhol, MEN IN BLACK III

    I am in such an awesomely fantastic mood, I won't even bother correcting your spelling.. :D

    Yer probably stoned off yer arse to dull the pain..

    Just another useless waste-of-skin druggie... :D

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  138. [138] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    I wish I had your time machine.

    Golden blunders fill your eyes...Mr 2106.

    Sleep pretty darlin, do not cry...

    LL&P

  139. [139] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    and also, welcome back.

    Welcome back, your dreams were your ticket out
    Welcome back, to that same old place that you laughed about
    Well the names have all changed since you hung around
    But those dreams have remained and they've turned around
    welcome back kotter theme song

  140. [140] 
    Michale wrote:

    WI 90% counted... President Trump has a >3 point lead..

    MI 66% counted... President Trump has a >5 point lead...

    PA 64% counted... President Trump has an almost 6 point lead..

    Stick a fork in Basement Biden... He's done...

    Let the Democrat cheating begin!!! :D

  141. [141] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    and also, welcome back.

    Yeah.

  142. [142] 
    Michale wrote:

    I wish I had your time machine.

    Of course, you do...

    Then you wouldn't feel like such a schmuck right now???

    BBBBHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Sleep pretty darlin, do not cry...

    As usual, you are dead wrong on EVERYTHING... :D

  143. [143] 
    Michale wrote:

    and also, welcome back.

    and also, welcome back.

    Yeah.

    Thanx ya both so kindly.. :D

    Although, I am sure I will be kicked and banned by sunrise...

    No one likes the gregarious winner.. :D

  144. [144] 
    Michale wrote:

    WI 90% counted... President Trump has a >3 point lead..

    MI 66% counted... President Trump has a >5 point lead...

    PA 64% counted... President Trump has an almost 6 point lead..

    GA and NC are a given for President Trump...

    Doesn't that have a nice ring to it..

    PREEESSSIIIIIDENT TRUMP....

    I coulda SWORE that SOMEONE here said that ya'all better get used to saying PRESIDENT Trump, cuz yer gonna be saying it in perpetuity...

    Trump will, forevermore, be known as "Mr President"...

    Com'on!!!

    "Why so serious??"
    -The Joker

    :D

  145. [145] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK, it's time to get (somewhat) serious...

    Would ya'all like to know exactly WHY ya'all lost....

    AGAIN.... :D

  146. [146] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Stick around, Trump's about to wail and moan about a stolen election, he should at least share your optimism, Michale...

    Biden's down for the count, and still stealing the election, lol...

    Must be the Uyghurs, they double loath Trump as Chinese Muslims.

    ;)

    LL&P

  147. [147] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's really a shame..

    DrudgeReport turned all Trump/America hater...

    Matt's fate is sealed...

  148. [148] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden's down for the count

    Ironically enough, we agree...

    Basement Biden is DOWN.. and OUT.. :D

  149. [149] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    none of those leads is insurmountable, given the demographics of the votes yet to be counted. i'm on record that donald will probably pull it out, but it ain't over yet.

  150. [150] 
    Michale wrote:

    Stick around, Trump's about to wail and moan about a stolen election, he should at least share your optimism, Michale...

    https://youtu.be/JEpRIHvNPe0?t=32

    "I know you're speaking cuz I see your lips moving but I can't understand because I don't speak 'LITTLE BITCH'.."
    -Demon, SUPERNATURAL

  151. [151] 
    Michale wrote:

    none of those leads is insurmountable, given the demographics of the votes yet to be counted. i'm on record that donald will probably pull it out, but it ain't over yet.

    I love yer optimism... :D

  152. [152] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Cool.

    Nice concession speech.

    He might have at least congratulated Biden, our hopes weren't high.

    I'm guessing no one's told Trump about the counting of the votes how that affects the outcome.

    lol.

    LL&P

  153. [153] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    You are correct.. WI though, is already gone..

    And it will take a miracle for Basement Biden to pass up President Trump in PA and MI...

    And lookie at OHIO.... Trump country!!! :D

  154. [154] 
    Michale wrote:

    'Nuck

    I'm guessing no one's told Trump about the counting of the votes how that affects the outcome.

    Yea, they counted the votes in 2016...

    Remind me again what that outcome was???

    LIBERAL BUTTHURT
    https://youtu.be/w8oYqOcx5Fc

    :D

  155. [155] 
    Michale wrote:

    http://sjfm.us/pics/fallujah-final.jpg

    I mean, com'on people...

    Was the re-election of President Trump EVER in ANY doubt??? :D

    Of course not.. :D

  156. [156] 
    Michale wrote:

    Court packing??

    There won't be any stinkin' court packing!! :D

    BBBBBBBBHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  157. [157] 
    Michale wrote:

    I wonder if Moutin' Caddy will have the cajones to show up again..

    Just in case ya do, MC...

    I have prepared a comment for you to use...

    But... WAAAAA WAAAAAA WAAAAAA If you ..... WAAA WAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAA.. And... WAAAAAA WAAAAAA WAAAAAA WAAAAAAA
    -Mountain Caddy

    Yer welcome... :D

  158. [158] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, it sure looks like virtually everyone has bailed..

    Funny... Ya would almost think that President Trump won re-election of sumthin'... :D

  159. [159] 
    Michale wrote:

    And with the highest voter totals, NO ONE can say that the people haven't spoken... :D

    Who could have POSSIBLY predicted that this is what they would have to say....

    Oh.. Wait.. :D

  160. [160] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    There's a disconnect here...

    If Hair Fuhrer has won, why is he sending in his jack-booted lawyers?

    Nope, he sure he's about to lose, why else go to plan B?

    Alan Dershowitz is in-conspicuously elsewhere, no doubt far off away from the shit storm. No way he wants any of this.

    LL&P

  161. [161] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh yea....

    I forgot..

    Someone around these here parts predicted a 6-3 SCOTUS.. :D

    Chalk another one up for Michale..

    My gods, could it POSSIBLY get any worse for you people???

    Senate is GOP safe... House is moving towards the GOP... SCOTUS is extra solid Conservative for the remainder of our lives...

    And ya'all will get to hear PRESIDENT TRUMP for the next 4+ years...

    Could life POSSIBLY be any better??? :D

  162. [162] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nope, he sure he's about to lose,

    Whatever you have to tell yerself to make it thru your sad and pitiful druggie existence.. :D

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAM

  163. [163] 
    Michale wrote:

    Waitatic...

    Which of the Trump/America hating morons predicted McConnell and Graham would lose??

    :D

  164. [164] 
    Michale wrote:

    Flipping Texas from Red to Blue at the presidential level in 2020 would definitely be a bit sooner than anticipated, but what could it hurt to be early!? ;)

    BBBBBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Man, I am going to be busier than a one legged man in an ass-kicking contest what with ya'all TOTALLY and UTTERLY wrong predictions!!! :D

  165. [165] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    AZ called for Biden by AP! That could be it!

    -CW

  166. [166] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's really a shame..

    DrudgeReport turned all Trump/America hater...

    Matt's fate is sealed...

    Another group who is proven once again to be totally bogus are pollsters...

    This was a virtual repeat of 2016...

    "90% chance of a Biden Presidency"

    "88% chance of a Biden Presidency.."

    :D

    My gods, you would think that the pollsters learned their lesson in 2016...

    And they did... For all of about 10 mins..

    Then it's back to their old moronic ways..

    And YA'ALL fell for it!!! AGAIN!!!

    If only there was wise Weigantian how could have warned you about puttin' your faith in polls...

    Oh.... Wait... :D

  167. [167] 
    Michale wrote:

    OH... Disclaimer

    Inthe ensuing victory dance, I will be constantly referring to Basement Biden morons and Dumbocrat idiots and Party Slave morons and... Well, you get the idea.. :D

    Note that, for the record, these are references to generic Party Slave Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter morons & Trump/America haters and bigots.

    ANY similarity or resemblance to ANY persons, living or dead, who are reading said victory dance is PURELY and COMPLETELY coincidental... :D

  168. [168] 
    Michale wrote:

    "You were great in your day, Weigantians. But it just stands to reason, when it came time to cash in your chips, this old... diseased... maniac would be your banker."
    -Lex Luthor, SUPERMAN

  169. [169] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's very easy to explain to ya'all exactly HOW and WHY ya'all lost... :D

  170. [170] 
    Michale wrote:

    In Michigan, President Trump just increased his lead with almost 75% reporting...

    Michigan is President Trump country..

    *AGAIN* :D

  171. [171] 
    Michale wrote:

    WOW..

    With 65% reporting, President Trump's lead in PA is 10+ points...

    Pennsylvania is President Trump country... :D

  172. [172] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    ME called for BIden...

    -CW

  173. [173] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    ME goes for Biden,,,

    -CW

  174. [174] 
    Michale wrote:

    "We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
    -Joe Biden

    It's not really any wonder that Basement Biden lost...

  175. [175] 
    Michale wrote:

    "We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
    -Joe Biden

    Whatdoyacallthat???

    A DC truth??? :D

  176. [176] 
    Michale wrote:

    And here's one for all you Weigantians out there who won't ever step back one foot into Weigantia.. :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYS0EeaAUMw

  177. [177] 
    Michale wrote:

    Can't wait to see Young Turks 2020 meltdown.. :D

    It's gonna be a hoot! :D

    "Yunno what, it IS funny.. It's a hoot.."
    -Tony Stark, AVENGERS AGE OF ULTRON

    :D

  178. [178] 
    Michale wrote:

    But..... But..... But......

    BLUE WAVE!!!!

    There's gonna be a blue wave!!!!!

    WTF!!!??? :D

  179. [179] 
    Michale wrote:

    Why doesn't President Trump wear glasses??

    Because he has 2020

    Baaa daaaa da.... :D

  180. [180] 
    Michale wrote:

    Wisconsin and Michigan can be called for President Trump...

    It's over....

  181. [181] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://youtu.be/klygfDhB7QA?t=73

    And so it begins... :D

  182. [182] 
    Michale wrote:

    Spanish word for the day...

    BELIEVING

    "President Trump will not BELIEVING the White House until 2025"

    :D

  183. [183] 
    Michale wrote:

    {{{ccchhhiiiirrrrpppp}}} {{ccchhhiiirrrrpppp}}

    Wow?? Did someone die in here?? :D

    Oh yea... Trump/America haters' hopes.. :D

  184. [184] 
    Michale wrote:

    'Nuck???

    Where did ya go???

    Why did you run away??? :D

  185. [185] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yunno...

    It's really a sad state of affairs that Democrat-run cities have to board up businesses due to the possibility of rioting by Trump/America haters...

    No wonder Democrats can't win elections... :eyeroll:

  186. [186] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Trump has done more for black Americans, hispanic Americans and native Americans in his first 3 years in office than Democrats have done in 20x that amount of time...

    This is fact...

    And THAT is why President Trump has been re-elected.. :D

  187. [187] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    ......or not.

    we're not sure yet. donald may yet squeak through as i predicted he would, but the only thing clear and definitive about the presidential result right now is that it is completely unclear and non-definitive.

    the senate, on the other hand... *sigh*

  188. [188] 
    Michale wrote:

    the senate, on the other hand... *sigh*

    Yea, once the GOP Senate gave sane patriotic Americans a 6-3 Conservative SCOTUS, I know the Senate was safely in GOP hands...

    By the bi... Good morning.. :D

  189. [189] 
    Michale wrote:

    If you look at the county by county results, PA, MI & WI are definitely Trump country...

  190. [190] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/louisiana-abortion-amendment-vote-election-day-state-constituion

    Go ahead, Democrats..

    Appeal to the SCOTUS....

    I double-dog dare ya!! :D

  191. [191] 
    Michale wrote:

    The ONE burning question that the election may not answer...

    Should STAR TREK:LOWER DECKS be considered CANON???

  192. [192] 
    TheStig wrote:

    Does the term "United States of America" seem a bit obsolete this am? There can be no good outcome to this election. We don't need election lawyers - we need divorce lawyers.

  193. [193] 
    Michale wrote:

    Does the term "United States of America" seem a bit obsolete this am?
    There can be no good outcome to this election. We don't need election lawyers - we need divorce lawyers.

    Such a typical reaction from Trump/America haters..

    They don't get their way so they just want to destroy the whole thing...

    #sad

    We don't need divorce lawyers...

    Democrats need to grow up and accept the will of the people...

    Yea, THAT will never happen.. :eyeroll:

  194. [194] 
    Michale wrote:

    NASA reestablishes contact with 43-year-old Voyager 2 which is 11.6 BILLION miles from Earth after repairs to antenna in Australia left spacecraft flying solo for seven months
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8909935/NASA-reestablishes-contact-43-year-old-Voyager-2-11-6-BILLION-miles-Earth.html

    And the message that NASA received from VOYAGER 2???

    "Vote Quimby!"

  195. [195] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    nice one. we don't need lawyers at all, we need relationship counseling.

  196. [196] 
    dsws wrote:

    There is no such thing as the national popular vote, according to the media. It's not like unicorns, that don't exist but everyone has heard of them. It's like an unperson, who has been dropped into the memory hole.

    It's not that the national popular vote should be getting high billing in the headlines. It shouldn't, particularly. What's unsettling is not what gets dropped into the memory hole in this case. What's unsettling is that we have a memory hole at all. That the national media herd to such an extent that a piece of what would have been second-tier news is completely gone.

  197. [197] 
    Michale wrote:

    nice one.

    Danke

    we don't need lawyers at all, we need relationship counseling.

    I have to disagree...

    I hate to make it all about D v R, but it IS politics after all..

    Democrats need to learn to accept the will of the people..

    If they can't push their radical agenda at the ballot box, they should quit trying to achieve it thru other means...

    Democrats are VERY short-sighted and only look at short-term gain. They ignore long-term consequences..

    Reid nuking the filibuster is a perfect example..

    The Democrats obsession with court packing is another...

    If Dems can't achieve their agenda thru the ballot box, then they should accept the FACT that, Americans don't WANT that agenda...

    Elections DO have consequences...

  198. [198] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Democrats obsession with court packing is another...

    Which brings us to a burning question..

    With Senate firmly in the hands of the GOP and the White House firmly in the hands of President Trump...

    Do Democrats STILL support court packing??

    I mean, are Democrats REALLY wanting a 10-3 Conservative SCOTUS?? :D

  199. [199] 
    Michale wrote:

    Dan,

    https://vividmaps.com/trumpland-and-clinton-archipelago/

    The Vanity Vote has as much relevance as the Geographical Vote....

  200. [200] 
    Kick wrote:

    Chris Weigant

    Red mirage beginning to fade... right on schedule. :)

  201. [201] 
    Michale wrote:

    And then there are those who love to double down on stoopid... :D

  202. [202] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I see an opportunity, however slim, for leadership and a new way of doing politics in America. When a country as big and diverse as the US is AND so completely divided, certainly far more divided than the popular vote would indicate, then something needs to give.

    Yes, an opportunity for leadership, only if it isn't squandered.

  203. [203] 
    James T Canuck wrote:

    Three quick points before I head to Prince Edward County for a celebratory lunch...

    Who knew the punditry would be right about mail-in voting would ruling the day.

    After Biden wins, I need a word with you lot for letting this get so close.

    Fuck off, Michale, and remain that way.

    LL&P

  204. [204] 
    Michale wrote:

    I see an opportunity, however slim, for leadership and a new way of doing politics in America. When a country as big and diverse as the US is AND so completely divided, certainly far more divided than the popular vote would indicate, then something needs to give.

    Yes... Something DOES need to give..

    Democrats need to accept the idea that, if they lose elections, they cannot push their Anti-America agenda by other means..

    Once Democrats realize that, EVERYONE will be better off...

  205. [205] 
    Michale wrote:

    Awwww Po' lil nuck nuck is butthurt...

    BBBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Who knew the punditry would be right about mail-in voting would ruling the day.

    I highly encouraged Democrats to use Mail In votes.. WHY risk covid??

    Of course, Mail In votes are the easiest votes to disqualify..

    In the last NY Dem primary, upwards of 20% of the Mail In votes were deep sixed.. ?

    Estimates are upwards of 2 million Mail In votes will be disqualified in this here election.. 90% of those will be Dem votes..

    Yea... Here's hoping ALL Democrats voted by mail!!!

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  206. [206] 
    Michale wrote:

    After Biden wins, I need a word with you lot for letting this get so close.

    Ironically enough, you are absolutely right..

    Most everyone here and all the pundits across the country are completely and utterly at fault for Basement Biden's loss...

  207. [207] 
    Michale wrote:

    What the polls and pundits got wrong: Trump outperforms predictions again
    This time around, it wasn’t just state polls that were off the mark

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-the-polls-and-pundits-got-wrong-trump-outperforms-predictions-again

    If only someone had told ya'all that ya'all were fools for crowing about the pollse...

    Oh... Wait.. :D

  208. [208] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    not a loss. at least, not yet.

    Jason: And to Janet, the best robot.
    Janet: Not a robot.
    Jason: Girl.
    Janet: Not a girl.
    Jason: And straight-up hottie.
    Janet: I am attractive, yes.
    ~the good place

  209. [209] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump flipped this Ohio county that hasn't gone Republican in 50 years
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trump-flipped-this-ohio-county-that-hasnt-gone-republican-in-50-years

    Oh the butthurt Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    :D

    Self-delusional until the bitter end.. :D

  210. [210] 
    Michale wrote:

    not a loss. at least, not yet.

    I really dig yer optimism in the face of reality.. :D

  211. [211] 
    Michale wrote:

    WOW... President Trump really kicked Biden's ass in Ohio!! :D

  212. [212] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    what, no props for the good place reference?

  213. [213] 
    Michale wrote:

    what, no props for the good place reference?

    We kinda got away from the show.... Like most shows like that (Agents Of Shield, Grimm, etc etc) it gets too weird to follow...

    But kudos anyways.. :D

    Is it still on??

  214. [214] 
    Michale wrote:

    While it looks likely that Democrats could maybe possibly hold onto the House, they lost a lot of seats... :D

  215. [215] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Democrats need to accept the idea that, if they lose elections, they cannot push their Anti-America agenda by other means..

    I think Democrats need to get a lot better at pushing what their agenda actually is in an effort to counter the nonsense that their agenda is anti-America. But, they must do so in a way that doesn't give short shrift to the 60+ million voters who don't vote for Democrats and understand what these voters keep saying in presidential and down ballot elections.

    The fly in the ointment is that the fine art of persuasion may be dead in America. I hope that is not the case! Biden used to know how to persuade but I'd have to give him only a barely passing grade for his efforts this time around. But, with a little luck and on a wing and a prayer, he might just win this election. If he doesn't, then all hope is lost for moving the country forward, together.

    And, the ability to do this is what forms the gulf between the leadership capacities of Trump and Biden.

  216. [216] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    The problem with your comment is that it totally ignores the FACTS...

    As I mentioned above, President Trump has done more for minorities (blacks, hispanics, native) in his first 3 years than Democrats have done in 20x that amount of time..

    The only thing Democrats have done for black Americans is the 1994 Crime Bill and fighting against the Civil Rights and Voting Rights laws...

    President Trump's leadership is tangible and factual...

    Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party leadership?? Non existent...

    You can't argue the facts... :D

    But don't worry...

    Everything is going to be OK... :D

    President Trump's got this..

  217. [217] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    You ever see a movie called WIND RIVER???

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3821713689?playlistId=tt5362988&ref_=tt_ov_vi

    There is a little blurb at the end...

    "While missing person statistics are compiled for every other demographic, none exist for Native American women."

    President Trump changed that with his signing of the Savanna Act...

    Joe Biden was in politics for almost 50 years.. Why did he never push thru this law??? Democrats have ignored the plight of native Americans, just as they ignored the plight of black Americans...

    All of this is FACT....

    And yet, it's ignored here..

    And President Trump's re-election (a nod to JL) is the result...

  218. [218] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    As I mentioned above, President Trump has done more for minorities (blacks, hispanics, native) in his first 3 years than Democrats have done in 20x that amount of time..

    How so?

    I mean, they're dying at a disproportionate clip as a result of Trump not controlling the virus. And, to add insult to injury, Trump is trying to take away their health insurance and replace it with ... wait for it ... nothing.

  219. [219] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    Based on CNN's reporting, as of this writing, Biden holds an 8k vote lead in Nevada, a 21k vote lead in Wisconsin, and a 12k vote lead in Michigan. If he can hold on to those 3 leads, he should win. From what I can tell, a lot of the remaining votes look to be from urban centers that have been voting for Biden so far, so there's hope. Still, this election is probably going to go down as one of the closest of all time, quite possibly being decided by only a few thousand votes out of over 135 million cast.

  220. [220] 
    Michale wrote:

    I mean, they're dying at a disproportionate clip as a result of Trump not controlling the virus.

    I wouldn't call it "disproportionate"...

    And what facts are there to support blaming President Trump for this?? None..

    Interesting factoid... Even if you accept the bogus 220k+ death count (which only 6% of that is actual covid deaths) the blue states, death rates per 100,000 residents are 40 percent higher than in red states, according to an AEI study. Of the first 210,000 deaths in the US from COVID-19, only 33,000 took place in red states.

    So, using your reasoning, Democrats are killing Americans more than Republicans are...

    It's easy to throw meaningless stats around.. Especially when you don't have the facts to back them up..

    Of course, I do.. :D

    https://www.aei.org/economics/impact-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-on-red-blue-and-swing-states/

    And, to add insult to injury, Trump is trying to take away their health insurance and replace it with ... wait for it ... nothing.

    Again, you believe the Democrat BS and do not listen to the facts...

    And do you REALLY think you are in a position to judge, considering how blatantly Obama lied and DID throw tens of millions of Americans off the healthcare plans that they liked and were told they could keep...

    With much respect, your claims caring about Americans healthcare seems a bit dubious considering what ya supported from Obama.. :D

    How so?

    Black American unemployment.. Lowest point EVER..

    Hispanic American unemployment.. Lowest point EVER..

    The afore mentioned Savanna Act...

    Building the strongest U.S. economy in my lifetime through historic business and personal tax cuts, resulting in millions of jobs created and record-low unemployment

    Cutting federal government regulations that had a stranglehold on American business innovators and entrepreneurs

    Confronting China’s trade abuses and negotiating fair trade deals with Canada, Mexico, South Korea, and Japan

    Eliminating the Obamacare individual mandate

    Rebuilding our military through investments in our defense capabilities as well as securing the largest military pay raise in a decade

    Nominating and confirming more solid conservative circuit court judges than any other first-term administration

    Nominating and fighting for the confirmation of three originalists, Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, to the Supreme Court and then nominating Amy Coney Barrett to fill the vacancy left by the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg

    Moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and then brokering the Abraham Accords peace deal between Israel, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain AND Sudan....

    Consistently fighting Democrats to build the wall to secure our southern border, reinforcing and repairing hundreds of miles, with more construction on the way

    The list is endless...

    But no one here will give President Trump credit for ANY of this..

    Which is why it's impossible to view any of the President Trump complaints with any level of serious-ness

  221. [221] 
    Michale wrote:

    From what I can tell, a lot of the remaining votes look to be from urban centers that have been voting for Biden so far, so there's hope.

    Facts to support???

    No??? Of course not.. :D

  222. [222] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    M [221]

    The facts are on CNN's electoral map. They show which counties have how much vote counted and who the counted votes have been cast for. The most populous counties, those around urban centers like Detroit and Las Vegas, have the largest amount of votes left to count, and those already counted are heavily in Biden's favor.

  223. [223] 
    Kick wrote:

    Bleyd
    222

    Yep.

    Detroit - Wayne County
    Las Vegas - Clark County

  224. [224] 
    Michale wrote:

    The facts are on CNN's electoral map.

    CNN?? I think it's cute that you think CNN actually has facts.. :D

    The most populous counties, those around urban centers like Detroit and Las Vegas, have the largest amount of votes left to count, and those already counted are heavily in Biden's favor.

    I'll give you Nevada... But if you look at the county by county stats for WI, MI and PA, the vast majority of areas are all red and/or pink...

    But hay... We could just look at ya'all's track record in Ohio, Florida, Texas and all the other states that everyone here was crowing about.. :D

  225. [225] 
    Michale wrote:

    Actually, scratch that...

    RealClearPolitics (the OFFICIAL source for Weigantia) has called PA for Trump..

    Final Results 80.24% Reporting

    Electoral Votes: 20

    Dem..Joe Biden......45.1%......2,554,843
    GOP..Donald Trump...53.8%......3,047,019
    Lib..Jo Jorgensen...1.2%.......65,974

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/state/pa/president/

  226. [226] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    M [224]

    Yes, the majority of the counties are red, but most of them are rural counties with relatively few voters. Within a state, the number of counties doesn't matter, it's the number of votes. Most of the few votes remaining come from very populous counties due to dense urban populations. This is really basic stuff.

  227. [227] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is really basic stuff.

    Yea... That's what ya'all said about Texas, Florida and Ohio and Pennsylvania.. :D

    That's what Democrats said about 2016.... :D

    Remind me again..

    How did all those work out for the Left Wingery?? :D

    I admire yer spunk... I really do.. Especially in the face of overwhelming facts to the contrary.. :D

  228. [228] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    we'll see how the presidential race goes. control of the senate is a much bigger and more important loss, though.

  229. [229] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    the good place series finale was right before covid hit.

  230. [230] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Trump has North Caroline and Georgia.. :D

  231. [231] 
    Michale wrote:

    we'll see how the presidential race goes. control of the senate is a much bigger and more important loss, though.

    Agreed...

    the good place series finale was right before covid hit.

    Interesting...

  232. [232] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Trump has North Caroline and Georgia.. :D

    North CarolinA

    :D

  233. [233] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, how about them polls, eh?? :D

    I always said, the ONLY "poll" that means ANYTHING is the poll taken on Election day..

  234. [234] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    And what facts are there to support blaming President Trump for [not having controlled the viurs]?? None..

    Actually,a lot.

    Trump has done very little to control this virus and even what he has done hasn't been done well. If he had done a competent job of it from the beginning he would have been re-elected by now, by a long shot.

  235. [235] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    what facts are there to support blaming President Trump for [not having controlled the virus]?? None..

    Actually,a lot.

    Trump has done very little to control this virus and even what he has done hasn't been done well. If he had done a competent job of it from the beginning he would have been re-elected by now, by a long shot.

  236. [236] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Despite what Trump says, this presidential election and count has apparently proceeded with care and precision, transparency and accuracy across the country, in the middle of Pandemic 1 and with record high turnout in many places.

    This is certainly something - a lot - for Americans to be very proud of and take comfort in.

  237. [237] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump has done very little to control this virus and even what he has done hasn't been done well.

    Assumes facts not in evidence...

    But hay.. Let's you and I jump into the Handy Dandy Trusty Dusty time machine and take a gander back to when all this kicked off??

    What were the Democrats doing??

    Oh yes.. There it is.. Democrats and Trump/America haters were trying to nullify a free, fair, legal, democratic and Constitutional election with their faux impeachment BS...

    An impeachment that was so bogus that Democrats couldn't find a SINGLE crime to impeach President Trump over.. So they had to make crimes (that weren't even crimes) up..

    And they STILL lost!! :D

    Hell, if Democrats had their way, we would STILL be listening to their rumors, heresay, innuendo and outright BS to this day..

    So, any delay in the response by the Trump Administration can be laid directly at the feet of the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party...

    OK, let's zip back to present day... :D

    Further, according to the CDGC, only 6% of the covid deaths were actually from covid... In the other 94% the COD (Cause Of Death) were other causes...

    So, given this FACT, the ACTUAL death count from covid is approx 12,000..

    Which, ironically enough, is about the same death count that Obama had during his H1N1 pandemic..

    Just the facts..

    I noticed you ignored the fact of all the Mid East peace treaties that President Trump negotiated... :D Why is that??

    President Trump succeeded where Obama, Biden and the Democrats (not to mention Bush and the GOP) utterly and completely failed..

    I guess I answered my own question on why ya ignore that.. :D

    If ya'all gave even a MODICUM of credit to President Trump when it was obviously due.... I would be more inclined to take ya'all's complaints about President Trump seriously...

    But Weigantia has become the TRUMP/AMERICA HATE Channel...

    24/7 of nothing but Trump and America hate...

    Very non-serious and, more often than not, a caricature, a parody of a liberal activist blog...

  238. [238] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Despite what Trump says, this presidential election and count has apparently proceeded with care and precision, transparency and accuracy across the country, in the middle of Pandemic 1 and with record high turnout in many places.

    So, that means when some yahoo here whines and complains about cheating and such other bogus whinings.....

    Are you saying you will set them straight in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS and tell them.....

    "Despite what Trump says, this presidential election and count has apparently proceeded with care and precision, transparency and accuracy across the country, in the middle of Pandemic 1 and with record high turnout in many places."

    Enquiring minds want to know.. :D

  239. [239] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yes, that is precisely what I am saying.

  240. [240] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yes, that is precisely what I am saying.

    OK... That's worth sticking around for.. :D

  241. [241] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    noticed you ignored the fact of all the Mid East peace treaties that President Trump negotiated... :D Why is that??

    These are fairly big deals and they do change the calculus to one degree or another with regard to the real peace and democratic challenge in Israel and the occupied territories. We will have to see what Trump or Biden can do to further the progress here and deal with the other critical challenges in the greater area of the Middle East.

  242. [242] 
    Michale wrote:

    And ANOTHER Weigantian myth falls on the trash heap due to FACTS... :D

    More Americans voted for Donald Trump this year than in 2016
    President Trump received more votes in the 2020 presidential election than he did in the 2016 presidential election as Joe Biden also surpassed the 2016 vote total for Hillary Clinton.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/more-americans-voted-for-donald-trump-this-year-than-in-2016

  243. [243] 
    Michale wrote:

    These are fairly big deals and they do change the calculus to one degree or another with regard to the real peace and democratic challenge in Israel and the occupied territories. We will have to see what Trump or Biden can do to further the progress here and deal with the other critical challenges in the greater area of the Middle East.

    So, you agree that President Trump deserves commiserate credit for these "fairly big deals", eh?? :D

    This is why I like you... It's like pulling teeth, but eventually ya do acknowledge the facts...

    That's in VERY short supply around these here parts.. :D

  244. [244] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    My argument is that Trump has done very little to control a very controllable virus and you say that this assertion assumes facts not in evidence.

    Let's take the example of the thing that Trump loves to tout - his China travel ban. This is a classic example of the unintended negative consequences completely overshadowing what was intended, for two reasons.

    Firstly, Trump's China travel ban was porous as hell. And, there was no strategy or implementation of a testing and quarantine regiment for the people who were getting into the US from China. This rates at least a 10 on the incompetence scale.

    Secondly and, perhaps, more importantly, the travel restrictions imposed by the Trump administration on China and Europe gave the president and, therefore, many in the country a completely false sense of security and the misguided idea that nothing else needed to be done.

    But, maybe the most persuasive piece of evidence is a missing national strategy for implementing a comprehensive package of public health measures along with the kind of leadership from the top down that would encourage compliance at the community level and empower individuals with the knowledge and support required to protect themselves and others.

  245. [245] 
    Michale wrote:

    My argument is that Trump has done very little to control a very controllable virus and you say that this assertion assumes facts not in evidence.

    And my argument is that assumes facts not in evidence...

    The mere fact that Left Wing water-carriers has to inflate the death count with non-covid deaths supports the fact that this is one big pile of BS...

    Florida COVID-19 fatalities data included man who died in motorcycle accident
    beckershospitalreview.com/data-analytics/florida-covid-19-fatalities-data-included-man-who-died-in-motorcycle-accident.html

    ‘All natural cases for the most part:’ Medical Examiner discusses coronavirus death toll
    News 6 obtains copies of COVID-19 death records from 9 counties

    clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/08/05/medical-examiner-responds-to-questions-about-floridas-coronavirus-death-numbers/

    High coronavirus positive case rate reveals flaws in Florida Department of Health report
    Hospitals dispute DOH account that labs aren't reporting negative results

    clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/07/15/high-coronavirus-positive-case-rate-reveals-flaws-in-florida-department-of-health-report/

    According to the WHO, covid is less virulent and less lethal than the seasonal flu..

    The survival rate for covid is 98.6%.....

    At the session, Dr Michael Ryan, the WHO’s Head of Emergencies revealed that they believe roughly 10% of the world has been infected with Sars-Cov-2.

    This is their “best estimate”, and a huge increase over the number of officially recognised cases (around 35 million).

    Dr. Margaret Harris, a WHO spokeswoman, later confirmed the figure, stating it was based on the average results of all the broad seroprevalence studies done around the world.

    As much as the WHO were attempting to spin this as a bad thing – Dr Ryan even said it means “the vast majority of the world remains at risk.” – it’s actually good news. And confirms, once more, that the virus is nothing like as deadly as everyone predicted.

    The global population is roughly 7.8 billion people, if 10% have been infected that is 780 million cases. The global death toll currently attributed to Sars-Cov-2 infections is 1,061,539.

    That’s an infection fatality rate of roughly or 0.14%.

    Right in line with seasonal flu and the predictions of many experts from all around the world.

    0.14% is over 24 times LOWER than the WHO’s “provisional figure” of 3.4% back in March. This figure was used in the models which were used to justify lockdowns and other draconian policies.

    In fact, given the over-reporting of alleged Covid deaths, the IFR is likely even lower than 0.14%, and could show Covid to be much less dangerous than flu.
    https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/

    ALL the complaints about President Trump and covid are fake news...

    The facts that PROVE it's all bunk are as overwhelming as they are conclusive..

    And the vast majority of Americans KNOW this.. THAT is why President Trump will win re-election..

  246. [246] 
    Michale wrote:

    My argument is that Trump has done very little to control a very controllable virus and you say that this assertion assumes facts not in evidence.

    And my argument is that assumes facts not in evidence...

    The mere fact that Left Wing water-carriers has to inflate the death count with non-covid deaths supports the fact that this is one big pile of BS...

    Florida COVID-19 fatalities data included man who died in motorcycle accident
    beckershospitalreview.com/data-analytics/florida-covid-19-fatalities-data-included-man-who-died-in-motorcycle-accident.html

    ‘All natural cases for the most part:’ Medical Examiner discusses coronavirus death toll
    News 6 obtains copies of COVID-19 death records from 9 counties

    clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/08/05/medical-examiner-responds-to-questions-about-floridas-coronavirus-death-numbers/

    High coronavirus positive case rate reveals flaws in Florida Department of Health report
    Hospitals dispute DOH account that labs aren't reporting negative results

    clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/07/15/high-coronavirus-positive-case-rate-reveals-flaws-in-florida-department-of-health-report/

    According to the WHO, covid is less virulent and less lethal than the seasonal flu..

    The survival rate for covid is 98.6%.....

    At the session, Dr Michael Ryan, the WHO’s Head of Emergencies revealed that they believe roughly 10% of the world has been infected with Sars-Cov-2.

    This is their “best estimate”, and a huge increase over the number of officially recognised cases (around 35 million).

    Dr. Margaret Harris, a WHO spokeswoman, later confirmed the figure, stating it was based on the average results of all the broad seroprevalence studies done around the world.

    As much as the WHO were attempting to spin this as a bad thing – Dr Ryan even said it means “the vast majority of the world remains at risk.” – it’s actually good news. And confirms, once more, that the virus is nothing like as deadly as everyone predicted.

    The global population is roughly 7.8 billion people, if 10% have been infected that is 780 million cases. The global death toll currently attributed to Sars-Cov-2 infections is 1,061,539.

    That’s an infection fatality rate of roughly or 0.14%.

    Right in line with seasonal flu and the predictions of many experts from all around the world.

    0.14% is over 24 times LOWER than the WHO’s “provisional figure” of 3.4% back in March. This figure was used in the models which were used to justify lockdowns and other draconian policies.

    In fact, given the over-reporting of alleged Covid deaths, the IFR is likely even lower than 0.14%, and could show Covid to be much less dangerous than flu.
    swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/

    ALL the complaints about President Trump and covid are fake news...

    The facts that PROVE it's all bunk are as overwhelming as they are conclusive..

    And the vast majority of Americans KNOW this.. THAT is why President Trump is winning re-election..

    "Sustain ALL objections, but face the truth!!"
    -Zira, PLANET OF THE APES

  247. [247] 
    Michale wrote:

    My argument is that Trump has done very little to control a very controllable virus and you say that this assertion assumes facts not in evidence.

    And my argument is that YOUR argument assumes facts not in evidence...

    The mere fact that Left Wing water-carriers has to inflate the death count with non-covid deaths supports the fact that this is one big pile of BS...

    Florida COVID-19 fatalities data included man who died in motorcycle accident
    beckershospitalreview.com/data-analytics/florida-covid-19-fatalities-data-included-man-who-died-in-motorcycle-accident.html

    ‘All natural cases for the most part:’ Medical Examiner discusses coronavirus death toll
    News 6 obtains copies of COVID-19 death records from 9 counties

    clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/08/05/medical-examiner-responds-to-questions-about-floridas-coronavirus-death-numbers/

    High coronavirus positive case rate reveals flaws in Florida Department of Health report
    Hospitals dispute DOH account that labs aren't reporting negative results

    clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/07/15/high-coronavirus-positive-case-rate-reveals-flaws-in-florida-department-of-health-report/

  248. [248] 
    Michale wrote:

    My argument is that Trump has done very little to control a very controllable virus and you say that this assertion assumes facts not in evidence.

    And my argument is that YOUR argument assumes facts not in evidence...

    The mere fact that Left Wing water-carriers has to inflate the death count with non-covid deaths supports the fact that this is one big pile of BS...

    Florida COVID-19 fatalities data included man who died in motorcycle accident

    ‘All natural cases for the most part:’ Medical Examiner discusses coronavirus death toll
    News 6 obtains copies of COVID-19 death records from 9 counties

    High coronavirus positive case rate reveals flaws in Florida Department of Health report
    Hospitals dispute DOH account that labs aren't reporting negative results

    According to the WHO, covid is less virulent and less lethal than the seasonal flu..

    The survival rate for covid is 98.6%.....

    At the session, Dr Michael Ryan, the WHO’s Head of Emergencies revealed that they believe roughly 10% of the world has been infected with Sars-Cov-2.

    This is their “best estimate”, and a huge increase over the number of officially recognised cases (around 35 million).

    Dr. Margaret Harris, a WHO spokeswoman, later confirmed the figure, stating it was based on the average results of all the broad seroprevalence studies done around the world.

    As much as the WHO were attempting to spin this as a bad thing – Dr Ryan even said it means “the vast majority of the world remains at risk.” – it’s actually good news. And confirms, once more, that the virus is nothing like as deadly as everyone predicted.

    The global population is roughly 7.8 billion people, if 10% have been infected that is 780 million cases. The global death toll currently attributed to Sars-Cov-2 infections is 1,061,539.

    That’s an infection fatality rate of roughly or 0.14%.

    Right in line with seasonal flu and the predictions of many experts from all around the world.

    0.14% is over 24 times LOWER than the WHO’s “provisional figure” of 3.4% back in March. This figure was used in the models which were used to justify lockdowns and other draconian policies.

    In fact, given the over-reporting of alleged Covid deaths, the IFR is likely even lower than 0.14%, and could show Covid to be much less dangerous than flu.
    swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/

    ALL the complaints about President Trump and covid are fake news...

    The facts that PROVE it's all bunk are as overwhelming as they are conclusive..

    And the vast majority of Americans KNOW this.. THAT is why President Trump is winning re-election..

    "Sustain ALL objections, but face the truth!!"
    -Zira, PLANET OF THE APES

  249. [249] 
    Michale wrote:

    For some reason, Weigantia puked when I posted the links for the facts.....

  250. [250] 
    Michale wrote:

    Covid is a non-serious issue...

    And it surely had little to no bearing on the election.. As the current standings confirm...

    If President Trump is as obviously incompetent about covid as you claim, then he would not have surpassed his 2016 vote totals..

    "Simple logic"
    -Admiral James T Kirk

  251. [251] 
    Michale wrote:

    So... Out of the current standings....

    AK, PA, NC and GA have all been called for President Trump...

  252. [252] 
    Michale wrote:

    Covid is a non-serious issue..

    As will become painfully obvious once President Trump is officially re-elected and all the urgency to try and take him down melts away...

    So, to sum up...

    Democrats got their asses handed to them in the House and the Senate...

    And President Trump is well on his way to kicking their asses all over the White House.. :D

    Good day... :D

  253. [253] 
    Michale wrote:

    Good day... :D

    That is "Good Day" in the sense of "a totally awesome and excellent good day"...

    Not in the sense of a "good bye" Good Day... :D

  254. [254] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's also interesting to note..

    Especially since I KNOW how much ya'all just LOVE polls!! :D

    Right before the election, 56% of Americans feel they are better off today UNDER A PANDEMIC than they were under Obama/Biden....

    As I point out.. ALL the facts... ALL the evidence... points to Americans are sick and tired of the Trump/America haters and bigots and their hysterical and baseless and factless fear mongering...

    Polls don't lie.... Right?? :D

  255. [255] 
    Michale wrote:

    Break time.. :D

  256. [256] 
    Kick wrote:

    Wisconsin flipped. :)

  257. [257] 
    Michale wrote:

    Senator Collins is still the Senator from Maine..

    Funny... I coulda swore ya'all said she was on her way out...

    WRONG again... :D

  258. [258] 
    Michale wrote:

    And people are STILL doubling down on stoopid.. :D

  259. [259] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Just because most of us favour Biden over Trump doesn't mean we hate America. On the contrary, my friend. But, if you can't appreciate that much about us, then there is really nowhere for us to go in terms of conversation and you are participating in the wrong blog, here.

  260. [260] 
    SF Bear wrote:

    EM #256 Boy do I agree with you on this. I rarely agree with you, but you nailed it, he does not belong on this blog. Most of us believe that the point of argument and discussion is to illuminate and inform. A troll like Michale sees it as a sport to "win". Therefor he says things that are not true and that he himself does not believe just to score "points". He sets himself up as the scorekeeper so in his estimation he can never lose. What is the point of playing his game, where he hurls imaginary facts into a playing field of his imagination. To play his game is pointless and frustrating. To allow him to bring his circus to this forum make following the discussion tedious and ultimately exhausting.

  261. [261] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I don't play games.

  262. [262] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michigan flipped. :)

  263. [263] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Well, you know what I mean and what games I'm talking about.

  264. [264] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    Just waiting to see if leads in Arizona and Nevada hold. If they do, that's 270 for Biden.

  265. [265] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yep.

  266. [266] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And, then the real work will begin.

  267. [267] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    SF Bear,

    Wait a second!

    I rarely agree with you ...

    Really?

    :-)

  268. [268] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Just because most of us favour Biden over Trump doesn't mean we hate America

    Anyone here condemn all the rioting and looting and destruction committed by the Democrat/AntiFa/BlackLiesMatter Party??

    The hatred of America by people here is well established..

    Silence gives assent..

  269. [269] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/president/

    Yea, ya'all are dreaming.. :D

    Ya can't accept the fact that President Trump won re-election...

  270. [270] 
    Michale wrote:

    SF Bear,

    And yet, I have always been right about everything Trump and ya'all have ALWAYS been wrong.. :D

    Funny how that is, eh?? :D

  271. [271] 
    Michale wrote:

    What's that ya'all said???

    Black support won't get into double digits???

    25% of the black vote went Trump...

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Again, I have ta ask...

    WHY are ya'all **ALWAYS** wrong??? :D

  272. [272] 
    Michale wrote:

    How Trump clinched Florida victory with help of Hispanics in Miami-Dade County
    Miami-Dade is Florida's most populous county

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-miami-florida-victory-cuban-american-latino-vote

    But!!! But!!!! But!!!! Hispanics HATE President Trump!!!!!

    Florida will go blue!!!???

    I don't understand...

    Was every here WRONG??? ***AGAIN***??? :D

  273. [273] 
    Michale wrote:

    Welp, my time now belongs to my lovely wife... :D

    I'll laugh at ya'all some more tomorrow.. :D

  274. [274] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ya'all that were running away scared??

    Ya can come back now.. I am outta here for the night... :D

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

  275. [275] 
    SF Bear wrote:

    This is the dread I have been losing sleep over for several months. With a Moscow Mitch Senate Biden is a Dead Man Walking. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/04/mitch-mcconnells-senate-will-be-where-biden-presidency-goes-die/

  276. [276] 
    Mopshell wrote:

    Wisconsin and Michigan have both been called for Biden. With Nevada and Arizona, he will have 270 EVs. Trump will pick up Pennsylvania, North Carolina (which re-elected its Democratic governor) and Georgia for second place with 268EVs.

    Take cover, everyone, as soon as this result is confirmed - Michale's head might explode!

  277. [277] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    SF Bear[282],

    I couldn't disagree more vehemently with you or with this WP piece. I know, I know ... shocking, positively shocking. Mostly because the stated premise betrays a vast lack of knowledge and understanding about what a president Biden may be capable of doing and how he would handle the senate majority leader.

    Democratic voters in the primaries didn't just settle for Biden. Collectively, they made an inspired choice, even if many of them don't realize it, even now. :)

  278. [278] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yes, I can see into the future. Heh.

  279. [279] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    Not sure how seriously I'd take it, but CNN is still pushing that Biedn has a chance in Pennsylvania as he's closing the gap pretty quickly with the mail-in ballots being counted now. According to them, 1.1M ballots remain, and Biden would catch up were he to win around 70% of them, a number that's apparently pretty consistent with the performance he's been having with mail-in ballots in the state.

    Now, I'll believe it when I see it, but it's interesting to contemplate.

  280. [280] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    Also, what's going on with Arizona and Nevada? Those numbers haven't been updated since this morning.

  281. [281] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I wouldn't say that CNN is pushing that Biden has a chance in Pennsylvania. The magic wall guy and others are simply saying that you need to count the votes and that the math coupled with where the voters are indicates that Biden has a chance in Pennsylvania. And, he does!

  282. [282] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Bleyd [277],

    Not sure about Arizona - although, some have called that state for Biden already, no? - but I'm told that Nevada Democratic leaders may want to slow walk the count there to be the state that puts Biden at or over 270.

  283. [283] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    I've heard that Arizona was called prematurely, something like 600k additional ballots were found after the initial call.

  284. [284] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    As we hear more and more from elections directors across the country and get a real education on how precisely votes get received and counted and adjudicated and reported, the claims that Trump keeps making about vote fraud, rigged elections and ballot stuffing go over like the proverbial lead balloon. Ahem.

    I'd like to send out a big THANK-YOU to all the election workers who are doing a wonderful job to ensure that all of the valid votes are counted. I'd be darn proud of all of them if I were an American. Heck, I'm proud of them, anyways! :)

  285. [285] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    Georgia is getting close. 48k vote difference, estimated 250k votes left to count. If Biden wins 60% of the remaining, he could still win the state. And as with other places, most of the remaining ballots are mail-ins from urban and sub-urban counties, so it's still possible.

  286. [286] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    Trump campaign is getting desperate, filing multiple lawsuits to stop counting mail-in ballots in battleground states. Not surprising of course.

  287. [287] 
    Mopshell wrote:

    Bleyd [280]

    I've heard that Arizona was called prematurely, something like 600k additional ballots were found after the initial call.

    No, 600k ballots were NOT "found" after the call; they weren't hiding in a corner or suddenly discovered in the broom closet. Fox knew the count of ballots in Arizona was only at 73% when they made that call last night.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/fox-news-election-night-arizona/2020/11/04/194f9968-1e71-11eb-90dd-abd0f7086a91_story.html

  288. [288] 
    Bleyd wrote:

    Mopshell [280]

    Makes sense, I was going by what I was told by a coworker, one who supports Trump.

  289. [289] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mopshell
    273

    Wisconsin and Michigan have both been called for Biden. With Nevada and Arizona, he will have 270 EVs. Trump will pick up Pennsylvania, North Carolina (which re-elected its Democratic governor) and Georgia for second place with 268EVs.

    Trump won't win Pennsylvania, and there is no "second place." *laughs*

  290. [290] 
    Kick wrote:

    Bleyd
    282

    Georgia is getting close. 48k vote difference, estimated 250k votes left to count. If Biden wins 60% of the remaining, he could still win the state.

    This!

    And as with other places, most of the remaining ballots are mail-ins from urban and sub-urban counties, so it's still possible.

    I mentioned the outstanding ballots (checks watch) a hundred hours! Georgia is not over... yet. There are ballots still out there. :)

  291. [291] 
    Kick wrote:

    ^^^^^ EDIT ^^^^^

    I mentioned the outstanding ballots (checks watch) a hundred hours ago!

  292. [292] 
    Mopshell wrote:

    Bleyd [285]

    Oh I see! Now I understand. :)

  293. [293] 
    Mopshell wrote:

    Kick [286]

    Yes! I was very late discovering this about Pennsylvania but I see exactly what you mean - it is going to go to Biden! Well that's made my day a whole heap happier!

    The "second place" thing was for Michale. ;)

  294. [294] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mopshell
    290

    Yes! I was very late discovering this about Pennsylvania but I see exactly what you mean - it is going to go to Biden! Well that's made my day a whole heap happier!

    Good. :)

    The thing about "second place" is that it actually did used to be a "thing" in America where the guy who came in second place became the Vice President. Thomas Jefferson wasn't thrilled about having Aaron Burr as his Vice President and set reforms in motion during his presidency to remedy that whole "second place" scenario. :)

  295. [295] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    trump is up 2.6% in PA with 9% still left to count.

    biden is up 2.4% in AZ with 11% left to count.

    biden is up 0.6% in NV with 13% left to count.

    trump is up 0.4% in GA with 2% left to count.

    i know some folks are calling it already, but my sense is it's still too soon for anybody to be counting chickens.

  296. [296] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Most of those votes are skewed Democratic, by a lot.

  297. [297] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Because that is the way Trump wanted it. Heh.

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