Where We Now Stand
I need to begin this with a notification. I am not even going to attempt a regular Friday Talking Points column today. We're so far from normal that it just wouldn't work -- that's what I decided when sitting down to write, at any rate.
Where we stand as a nation right now is that Joe Biden is almost certainly going to become the next president of the United States. Donald Trump is almost certainly not going to have a second term in office. We're only "almost" certain because the vote count in several states is so close that they haven't officially been called for one candidate or the other yet.
But the writing is on the wall, at this point. As I write, Biden is ahead in Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and Pennsylvania. Trump is ahead in North Carolina and Alaska. But Trump needed pretty much all of these states to win. Biden only needs Pennsylvania, or a combination of any two of the others. And he's currently ahead in four of them.
Ironically, if the states finish as they are right now, this would give Biden 306 Electoral College votes, which is exactly the same number Trump should have won (there were a few "faithless electors," so he officially only ended up with 304). And please remember, according to Trump, his 2016 victory was a "landslide" -- the biggest blowout in all of American political history. Neither is remotely true, but those quotes are going to be a lot of fun to throw around in the next few months, that's for sure. Trump can't run down Biden's win as somehow insignificant when the two men both won by the exact same amount, in other words.
Trump, of course, is not going gently into that good night. Yesterday, he appeared at the White House briefing room podium and spouted so many lies and conspiracy theories that the "big three" broadcast television networks all cut away from his remarks, so they could debunk his lies instead. That is an astonishing commentary in and of itself. Stephen Colbert was so deeply affected by Trump's remarks that he gave the grimmest monologue I have ever seen on late-night television, in response.
Colbert's right. For all the times Trump has baselessly thrown the word around, this is nothing short of a disgrace. We all knew Trump was going to be a sore loser, and he has proved this continually ever since Election Day. He was so convinced that he could not possibly lose to Joe Biden that he is now incapable of facing the truth. More Americans -- four million, as of this writing -- voted for Biden than voted for Trump. Biden is on his way to win five states Trump had carried in 2016: Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona. Trump has spewed lies and conspiracy theories about why the election was "stolen" from him, without a shred of an iota of a scintilla of proof. There is no proof to be found, either. All that "voter fraud" Republicans like to get worked up about just does not happen in the real world. It just doesn't. Maybe a handful of isolated cases here and there, but nothing on the scale that would be necessary to throw any election, even at the state level.
There actually was one instance of an attempt at widespread voter fraud this week, but it's unhelpful to Donald Trump because this fraud was attempted by Republicans. A call went out in Pennsylvania for Republicans to mail in their ballots after Tuesday, because someone was apparently confused about the rule that ballots would be accepted up to three days after Election Day. To be clear: ballots have to be postmarked on or before Election Day to count. Mailing a ballot in afterwards is an attempt to break the law, plain and simple. And yet that's what Republicans were told to do. In Pennsylvania. This means that the only attempt at that widespread voter fraud Republicans so dearly love to complain about actually came from within their own party.
Trump's claims are ridiculous for another reason, too. Biden did not win in a blowout. There was no real "blue wave" that washed over any of the other down-ballot races. Democrats lost seats in the House, they have so far failed to take control of the Senate (which is still technically possible with the Georgia runoff races, but highly unlikely), and they lost seats in state legislatures that they had been optimistic about. In other words, other than the presidential race, it wasn't a very good election for Democrats. So if you assume that Trump's grand conspiracy is true (without one jot or tittle of evidence, mind you), then why would Democrats not have conspired to win all the other races too? It makes no sense, in other words, not that it ever did.
Trump's got nothing, at this point. He still thinks the courts will somehow magically save him, but he is wrong. There's a very simple reason for this: "Throw out the results and declare me the winner" is not an actual legal strategy. You need to base a lawsuit on facts, and Trump has none to work with. It's doubtful at this point whether any of the flurry of cases Trump has filed will even make it to the Supreme Court at all, because Trump's lawyers have only managed to complain around the edges. They wanted more vote-counting observers. They wanted the observers to stand closer. They wanted the count to halt, but by the time it even got to the judge in most states, the counting was already done. They want certain ballots disallowed, but there just aren't enough of them to make a difference. In the few instances where they are daring to claim actual fraud or improper handling of ballots, they have no evidence whatsoever. Political blustering is not evidence, obviously, and that's all they really have to work with. And now, to get the election results overturned will mean getting multiple states overturned. Which just isn't going to happen.
We still have over two months before Trump leaves office. He could -- and probably will -- do further radical damage to democracy and the American system of government, on his way out the door. I would be willing to bet that Trump will never call Biden up to concede the election, and furthermore that Trump will not participate in any of the transfer-of-power ceremonies on Inauguration Day. There is just no way that Trump is going to sit and watch Biden make a speech, or watch him be sworn into office. Trump will likely watch from Mar-A-Lago instead. Donald Trump is the most petulant man-baby ever to occupy the Oval Office, and he's going to leave office with a tantrum for the ages. That's my guess, at any rate. But at this point, it seems like a pretty safe bet.
Trump is already doing further damage to the Republican Party. He and his offspring have demanded that all Republicans get on board Trump's "Conspiracy Express" crazy train, and several prominent Republicans have obliged -- to their everlasting shame. There is indeed one candidate who is trying to steal this election but it's not Joe Biden, and history will record what will happen next. Standing with the president's unhinged and baseless conspiracies is an attack on democracy itself, not some sort of profile in courage. The whole world is watching, and the names of those willing to feed Trump's fantasies will forever be recorded. The names of those who stand silent will also be condemned forever, because as Colbert pointed out (in Latin), silence is consent. Anyone not now denouncing Trump's raving lunacy is consenting to it, period.
As of this writing, Joe Biden still doesn't officially have the Electoral College votes to win. We're going to have to wait a bit longer for that to happen, although Pennsylvania will likely be called within hours (not days, in other words). That would put Biden over the top, even without Arizona being called. We will have to wait a bit longer for all the other states to report their final vote totals, and then there will likely be recounts (in at least Wisconsin and Georgia). It could be weeks before the final results are truly known -- just as many predicted before Election Day dawned.
Of course, some of this could have been fixed. But Republicans refused to do so. There's a reason why some states finished a lot earlier than others, and that reason is that some states allow mail-in and early-voting ballots to be counted before Election Day. This makes all kinds of sense, obviously. But in others -- with Republican-held legislatures -- this is not allowed. Republicans can try to hide behind their nonsensical claims of fighting "voter fraud," but this election has really stripped that away. What Republicans want is pretty obvious -- to make it as hard as possible for Democrats to vote. They fought early voting, they fought curbside voting, they fought mail-in voting, they fought to limit drop boxes -- and now they have the temerity to complain that the process takes too long. You can't have it both ways, guys. Either you make it easy to have a final count on Election Day, or you have to accept that it will take longer. But you just can't have it both ways.
Donald Trump is well on his way to becoming the thing he fears the most: a loser. He will join the ranks of one-term presidents like Jimmy Carter and George H. W. Bush. He will not have a second term. He can still do some damage on his way out the door (such as pardoning himself and his whole family), but his time is almost up. He will then become a private citizen once again, and as such will no longer be protected by his office. He will have to answer all those lawsuits and state-level charges that have been waiting, and even a federal pardon won't help him with any of it. His tax forms will likely be revealed. His Twitter account will be subject to the rules that all non-officeholders have to follow. He will be relegated to the sidelines, whether he likes it or not. He could follow the dream of setting up his own "Trump TV" media channel, where he could rant and rave to his heart's content, but that will be the sum total of his power. He will forever complain that the election was "stolen" from him, without offering any proof whatsoever.
But America will soon see him for exactly what he is -- a big fat loser. And a sore loser, as well. That will be his legacy, no matter how much he may hate it. And that's an entirely fitting end to his presidency.
-- Chris Weigant
Follow Chris on Twitter: @ChrisWeigant
An FTP column tonight would be kind of weird.
Trump's claims are ridiculous for another reason, too. Biden did not win in a blowout. There was no real "blue wave" that washed over any of the other down-ballot races.
Well, there was a "six-inch tsunami". Heh. Which is just fine with me, considering what it was like caught within the Red Mirage Tuesday night.
And, I for one, cannot wait to watch Biden in action in the wake of these election results because he will be right where he's most comfortable.
But America will soon see him for exactly what he is -- a big fat loser. And a sore loser, as well. That will be his legacy, no matter how much he may hate it. And that's an entirely fitting end to his presidency.
And, a very nice end to a Friday night column in Weigantia...
Biden will be speaking tonight and people are wondering what he will say, assuming PA won't be called by the time he speaks ...
He'll probably speak to all of the American people and thank all of the election workers across the country who are meticulously counting the wave of ballots in an election that set records for turnout and try to allay any fears and suspicions that there has been substantial vote fraud and say that when, and if, any nefarious activity is ever uncovered that it will be thoroughly dealt with, emphasizing that American elections are not plagued by vote fraud and that the president is simply wrong about this.
I think he'll also talk about how well the counting has been going and that the whole process is a shining example of how well American democracy works. It should be a moment of pride for all Americans. It has really been a pleasure to watch!
Pennsylvania
Biden +21,705
Yeah, no point to a FTP column this evening.
On behalf of my fellow Weigantians I'd like to thank you (yes, I'll remember come Christmas!) for the enormous amount of content that you've cranked out this election season especially.
@caddy,
you should've been here in '08
270towin called PA for biden this morning.
https://www.270towin.com/2020-election-results-live/
Is that Senator Casey's crew? :)
Biden now close to 30,000 in PA. This is fun!
(forgot the plus sign - too excited)
+27,130
Pittsburgh! Biden is winning these mail-in ballots at a rate of about 3:1 every time they are released. Trump cannot catch Biden in Pennsylvania. :)
He could follow the dream of setting up his own "Trump TV" media channel
According to ABC, he wants to destroy Fox in retribution and thinks he can steal Hannity and Tucker.
Go for it!
1 Count the votes.
2 Count the votes.
3 Count the votes.
4 Count the votes.
5 President Biden.
6 Big loser.
7 Lock him up.
The Republican Party of Pennsylvania petitioned the Supreme Court and asked them to order the Secretary of State to keep the ballots received after November 3 separate from the others, which they were already doing.
They also asked the SCOTUS to order the Secretary of State to stop the ballot counting in Pennsylvania. The way you know Trump lost in the SCOTUS: They're still counting ballots in Pennsylvania. :) #Loser
Jair Bolsonaro Trump’s not the most important person in the world
Fat Donny is absolutely going to go into shock as this intensifies and moves closer and people stop listening to him altogether. He's been living in a bubble where everybody is afraid of him and that's over already.
Joe Biden should not wrongfully claim the office of the President. I could make that claim also. - the orange Twitter troll.
We need an explanation as to how these numbers have been running up for the last two or three days. - Matthew Whitaker (Drumpf flunky and former acting USAG)
It's time for Dear Leader's flock to drink their Flavor Aid already.
JFC [14]
Can't wait to see him try it, and then inevitably drive it into the ground like all his other business ventures.
Biden is en route to the convention center.
Bleyd [20],
It shouldn't take long if he insists on being on air personally. He is repetitive and dull. That does not make for good TV.
Bleyd [20],
The problem with this plan is that he is deep in debt. Who will fund this venture so that he can drive it into the ground?
+28,833 in PA
The clear, inclusive and comprehensive message tonight from the next president of the United States was vintage Biden. Okay, okay, except for the length.
Trump's Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, tested positive for Coronavirus.
He should be in isolation now and all of his contacts in quarantine.
Because, this is the only way to control the virus.
CNN just showed a map of the US showing coronavirus transmission, in essence, and the entire nation is fire red.
I hope Biden begin to act tomorrow to send a message to all Americans about what it is going to take - what all Americans need to do individually and what state and local governments need to do, collectively, to shut down the virus.
I'd love to see him televise a round table with epidemiologists and infectious disease experts to talk about bringing the country together to fight the common enemy.
Bleyd
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Trump's Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, tested positive for Coronavirus.
But... but... but... we were told the coronavirus was a hoax and that we'd stop hearing about it on November 4. #Idiots
Glenn Kirschner says, "Let's talk about criminal accountability for the Trump years."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc7BqXSYCHs&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=GlennKirschner
Let's not and say we did.
[29] CNN just showed a map of the US showing coronavirus transmission, in essence, and the entire nation is fire red.
They should try some other color. Red will just confuse Fat Donny and delay his concession speech.
Glenn Kirschner for AG.
Georgia
+7,248
[31]
Yep, I just watched that Glenn Kirschner clip. And subscribed.
Worth the few minutes, folks.
Mopshell
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I like the way he thinks. :)
John From Censornati
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They should try some other color. Red will just confuse Fat Donny and delay his concession speech.
You think Fat Donny a.k.a. Benedict Donald will actually give a concession speech? You are much more optimistic than me. I think he'd flee the country or resign before he'd even concede that he's fat... or bald... or orange... let alone the fact that the Obama/Biden administration and Democrats just won the Infinity War:
https://www.facebook.com/jhpfilm/videos/397249774959017/?vh=e
*laughs*
[34] John From Censornati
Glenn Kirschner for AG.
Glenn is definitely my #1 choice.
The reason I don't want it to be Preet Bharara (though I do hope Biden reappoints him to SDNY) or Sally Yates (and I'd love to see her back at DoJ in charge of one of the departments there, or possibly White House Counsel) is because when they indicted Trump, they'd be accused of vengeance.
Glenn had nothing to do with Trump or his admin but he's kept a close watch on all their crimes.
[37] Kick wrote:
I like the way he thinks. :)
Glenn Kirschner for AG!
Kick [38]
You think Fat Donny a.k.a. Benedict Donald will actually give a concession speech?
Nope. I was just crackin' wise.
I can tell that Biden is going to have a tough time as president.
And, on top of that, he'll still have the Republicans to worry about!
You said "Donald Trump is the most petulant man-baby ever to occupy the Oval Office,..."
And we have yet another example of how hard it is to avoid normalizing this man and his presidency. The statement is incorrect. The correct observation is
Donald Trump is the only petulant man-baby ever to occupy the Oval Office.
Because try to name another one who could possibly merit that description. I am not looking forward to future history textbooks or 'Our Presidents' type books for young readers, that will try to make Trump out to have been just another of America's presidents. He is off the charts in ways that even Harding or Nixon or Reagan (in their different ways) never came close to approaching.
interesting how a lot of people who stood up to the president at great personal cost, are now being thought of for high positions.
Care to expand on that, Joshua?
AZ
Joe Biden (Democratic) 1,604,067 49.7%
*Donald J. Trump (Republican) 1,574,206 48.8%
NV
Joe Biden (Democratic) 632,558 49.8%
*Donald J. Trump (Republican) 609,901 48.0%
PA
Joe Biden (Democratic) 3,336,913 49.6%
*Donald J. Trump (Republican) 3,308,077 49.2%
GA
Joe Biden (Democratic) 2,461,455 49.5%
*Donald J. Trump (Republican) 2,454,207 49.3%
high positions?
sorry, i'm not folowing the news of who will be in the administration, just hoping there won't be an inordinate number of 'progressives' ... :0
How will there be any "progressives"? They would have to be "acting" because McConnell.
John From Censornati
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Nope. I was just crackin' wise.
Of course, JFC, I knew that and just needed a reason to post that video clip of Obama/Biden and Democrats ultimately winning the ultimate war... since I may have mentioned it a time or ten that I thought Democrats were going to have to tag team Donald Trump in order to take him down.
Also, how could I not post Joe Biden as Captain America because Elizabeth Miller!? :)
Arizona
Biden +20,573
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We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Grand Canyon and the State of Arizona. STOP THE COUNTING NOW!
Yep. Just kidding! :)
CNN officially declares the election for Biden!
Pennsylvania
Biden +30,908
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Elizabeth Miller wrote:
sorry, i'm not folowing the news of who will be in the administration, just hoping there won't be an inordinate number of 'progressives' ... :O
You're against Progressivism? The only reason we're not reflecting on a "Blue Tsunami" instead of the "Biden, meh -- better than Putin's Bitch, I guess" is that the Dem Establishment coalesced behind Joe instead of letting Bernie win the nomination. It wasn't as obvious and overt as what the Establishment did to Bernie in 2016. But do you really believe that Mayor Pete and Amy and all the rest all just coincidentally decided to drop out and endorse Joe at the same time?
You rightfully point out that Establishment Democrats don't campaign against the Repug Cult of Economic Failure as they easily could. I posit that they don't because they do NOT want to undo the ravages of Reaganism®. They don't want tax rates on the Democratic Donor class to return to America sustaining pre-Ronnie tax rates. "Let these plebs fight over 'social issues' while we laugh all the way to the bank."
I'm giving you a homework assignment, Elizabeth. Read this Current Affairs article and be prepared to discuss.
You may not like the title nor the contents but as Joe's biggest advocate here in Weigantia you are best positioned to convince this Bernie Bro why Biden isn't going to be Obama 2.0 -- vastly disappointing.
NYC just broke into cheers
"Biden, meh -- better than Putin's Bitch, I guess" declared by CNN. Four days of hell are fiiinally over *sigh"*
Woo hoo!
President-Elect Joe Biden!
:-)
It's finally over...
-CW
Happy dance! Where's the fizz?!
Drudge Report runs headline:
"YOU'RE FIRED!"
Heh.
-CW
Short Fingers: I have the distinct pleasure of running against the worst presidential candidate in the history of presidential politics.
By his own yardstick, Fat Donny is The Biggest Loser in the history of presidential politics.
With all my heart, and all my gladness...
Well done America.
LL&P
Fox has Biden at 290 EV.
BBBBHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[63] Dewey Defeats Truman
[64] I know, right!?
OK, it's time to get (somewhat) serious...
Would ya'all like to know exactly WHY ya'all lost....
You mean other than his incompetence killing thousands of Americans?
Senate and House results were still disappointing
Kick--53
A masterpiece of alphabet art! You should try it with unused postage stamps! :-)
Memo to D. J. Trump: Better run M.F. - er better run! Your fiscal house of cards is about to collapse. Sucks to be grifter/ loser. As crash and burn tales go - your's is Hindenburg on steroids.
Said another way...
Mr Trump...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtsvOkKFDf4
Live Long and Piss-Off.
The Balmy Army...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cS4yk3SXTI
LL&P
nypoet22
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Senate and House results were still disappointing
Can't win them all, can you? Of course not. But about that Senate, though, let's consider history and how the ACA/Obamacare was passed into law when Senator Arlen Specter was convinced to return to the Democratic Party in 2009.
What does that have to do with anything, you might ask. Well, since you asked, I'll tell you. If I was... say... someone like Senator Susan Collins and had just been reelected in a state that just trended 8.1% more Blue, I believe I'd start thinking about considering maybe changing my Party affiliation to either the Democratic Party or at the very least an Independent that caucuses with the Democrats. She wouldn't be the first Independent from Maine, you know.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, y'all. :)
A slow-motion win doesn't mean a slow-motion celebrate...enjoy your sanity. Trump's an outgoing misery.
LL&P
Well, we were promised a 'landslide', and actually, the sand in my grandkid's sandbox may have jiggled slightly!
In any profession other than political poll taking, there would be a whole lotta folks signing up for unemployment benefits.
But, did we learn anything from the experience? Hell no, two yrs down the road we'll all be doing it again!
TheStig [68] and Kick [53] -
I agree. Spectacular! I've been wondering, seeing your ASCII art for a while, whether I should add in a special tag for you to use that would make all the text monospace. Um, Courier font maybe?
Let me know if this would help, as I think it'd be a pretty easy change to make. You'd probably have to use a "span" tag to make it work, and I'm not 100% sure that would work in the comments, but I can try.
Again, let me know. So far, your efforts have been stellar!
:-)
-CW
OK, let me try something with a class that I threw in a while back. This text should be in red. Let's see if this works...
-CW
OK, well then the general principle seems to work. So Kick, let me know if having Courier would help you out in the construction of your artworks...
-CW
Chris Weigant
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I agree. Spectacular! I've been wondering, seeing your ASCII art for a while, whether I should add in a special tag for you to use that would make all the text monospace. Um, Courier font maybe?
Yes, yes, yes! I would love a Courier font.
*crowd chants*
Add a tag!
Add a tag!
Add a tag!
Add a tag!
Let me know if this would help, as I think it'd be a pretty easy change to make.
*crowd chants*
This would help!
This would help!
This would help!
You'd probably have to use a "span" tag to make it work, and I'm not 100% sure that would work in the comments, but I can try.
What the heck is that? Well, we'll figure it out because there really is more than one way to skin a cat.
Also, as I am wont to do, I must digress and beg thee [while you are in a giving mood] for an edit function for everybody. :)
Edit's too tough. I've tried before and failed to climb that steep hill. But lemme see what I can do on that other thing...
-CW
What do you think? Three weeks until Republicans start complaining that Biden isn't doing enough to get this hoax pandemic under control?
There's an amazing catharsis ongoing within the right-wing media...it's bizarre.
wow
LL&P
Chris Weigant
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OK, well then the general principle seems to work. So Kick, let me know if having Courier would help you out in the construction of your artworks...
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John From Censornati
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What do you think? Three weeks until Republicans start complaining that Biden isn't doing enough to get this hoax pandemic under control?
I think you spelled "days" wrong, JFC! ;)
OOO... Colors in the comments? that would be cool.I tried it sometime in the way back and it worked in preview but did not work in the published comment.
Let's see here.
OK, it may already be there. Let me try something.
And then this text should be back to normal.
-CW
Nut's....
Color's in the comments please.
On a more serious note.... and not rain on any parades.
Time to buckle up for the outgoing shenanigan's...
OK, here you go -- just talked to a tech friend, and he pointed out that it already exists. Here's the secret -- and please use angle brackets instead of square when you try this:
[pre]Text you want in Courier[/pre]
Give it a shot.
The red is a little tricker, but not much:
[span class="colorred"]Red text[/span]
Have at it, and you're welcome. As for the "pre" thing, it's actually been there all along! Didn't have to add a thing to the code.
-CW
Goodbye
Toodle-Oo
WOO HOO!!!
Got a problem with "too many Progressives" Elizabeth?
From the Guardian editorial Ding-dong, the jerk is gone. But read this before you sing the Hallelujah Chorus:
...let me offer my own suggestion for the reckoning that must come next, hopefully even before Biden chooses his cabinet and packs his bags for Pennsylvania Avenue: Democrats must confront their own past and acknowledge how their own decisions over the years helped make Trumpism possible.
Biden’s instinct, naturally, will be to govern as he always legislated: as a man of the center who works with Republicans to craft small-bore, business-friendly measures. After all, Biden’s name is virtually synonymous with Washington consensus. His years in the US Senate overlap almost precisely with his party’s famous turn to the “third way” right, and Biden personally played a leading role in many of the signature initiatives of the era: Nafta-style trade agreements, lucrative favors for banks, tough-on-crime measures, proposed cuts to social security, even.
What Biden must understand now, however, is that it was precisely this turn, this rightward shift in the 1980s and 90s, that set the stage for Trumpism.
Let us recall for a moment what that turn looked like. No longer were Democrats going to be the party of working people, they told us in those days. They were “new Democrats” now, preaching competence rather than ideology and reaching out to new constituencies: the enlightened suburbanites; the “wired workers”; the “learning class”; the winners in our new post-industrial society.
Biden can’t take us back to the happy assumptions of the centrist era even if he wants to, because so many of its celebrated policy achievements lie in ruins. Not even Paul Krugman enthuses about Nafta-style trade agreements any longer. Bill Clinton’s welfare reform initiative was in fact a capitulation to racist tropes and brought about an explosion in extreme poverty. The great prison crackdown of 1994 was another step in cementing the New Jim Crow. And the biggest shortcoming of Obama’s Affordable Care Act – leaving people’s health insurance tied to their employer – has become painfully obvious in this era of mass unemployment and mass infection.
Yeah, in the style of douchebag Michale, that's a lot of quote. But Elizabeth and other Moderates let's discuss! Please please please convince me why I'm wrong about this!
Chris,
The span was stripped from my comment. As GT says, it shows in the preview.
Lemme try one last one
Um, blue, maybe?
let's see if that works...
-CW
The underpants gnomes rise again! I'm reading Wingnuts Now Ready For Us To Throw Them In The Gulags, As We Have So Long Dreamed and what should I see, but:
Like ...
Step 1: Give people healthcare
Step 2: Cancel everyone's student loans
Step 3: Gulags
Step 4: ... profit?
Sounds like a plan???
OK, let's try a few basic shades
green
blue
orange
red
Let's see how that looks...
-CW
I'm not blue today!!
Text you want in Courier
The red is a little tricker, but not much:
Red text
Cool -- Red text for the Bernie Bro -- how appropriate!
Nope, Chris. It's been stripped again.
Ditto
Text you want in Courier
Give it a shot.
The red is a little tricker, but not much:
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I feel like a kid on Christmas morning.
I feel like Dorothy in Oz who always had the ability... if only one of the flying monkeys or the dang Wizard would have told me about the magic Red Slippers! ;)
Chris Weigant
I tried the Courier font, and the filter ate my post! :P
Damn. OK, this could be trickier than I thought.
Red and Courier seem to be working for me. But I guess that's because I'm the super-user or something. Also, I tried adding a few other basic colors, but they didn't work either. If none of it works for everyone else, then I'm going to have to dig a whole lot deeper to see how to make it work. Which I don't have time for right now (sorry).
But I'll keep trying...
-CW
MtnCaddy -
you're right -- your tags are being totally stripped out (I checked your comments behind the scenes, and all tags are gone). There's a filter that allows certain things in comments and just chucks everything else out, and that must be where I've got to add permissions, but that's going to be a much bigger job...
Sorry to get everyone's hopes up...
-CW
Willard Rmoney has Twittered unambiguous congrats to Basement Biden and The Monster.
Kick-
Just have to ask: how do you plot the pixels? By hand, or something more automated?
In middle school I did this kind of art using a hole punch and black construction paper. A 2X2 grid and filled with 0, 1,2, 3 or 4 black circles gives good results....the placement of pieces within the 2 X 2 matters little.
I also dablbled with color using 4 X 4 grid and 3 colors,plus black on white. Never got this to work - you need a really big canvas....a whole building would be ideal.
Long story short - I've moved on to Jack o' Lanterns. :-)
I'm getting the sense that the Republican Party Leadership is in the process of downgrading Trump from "useful idiot" to just plain "idiot."
TheStig
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Just have to ask: how do you plot the pixels? By hand, or something more automated?
Plot pixels? I just draw them, and I also just kept a collection for decades.
In middle school I did this kind of art using a hole punch and black construction paper.
In elementary school, I did art using a candle and crayons. My hair caught on fire, and I'm the reason they banned the use of fire by children at my elementary school. Not sure why they assigned all us 6 year old children an art project requiring the use of fire and hot colored wax crayons.
A 2X2 grid and filled with 0, 1,2, 3 or 4 black circles gives good results....the placement of pieces within the 2 X 2 matters little.
Sounds cool. :)
Long story short - I've moved on to Jack o' Lanterns. :-)
Trump in Prison Pumpkin
^^^ Carve that one! ^^^
TheStig [107] -
Anyone else used to have a Lite-Brite? They were cool...
I remember when ASCII art had to be programmed and printed out on dot-matrix printers with the little holes at the edge that you used to have to rip off afterwards...
Showing my age, I guess..
-CW
Here's an idea I just heard:
Everyone who follows Trump on Twitter just to see him in all his crazy splendor needs to go unfollow him now. If his followers total drops significantly in the next few days, maybe that'll get through to him in a very personal way.
Just a thought...
-CW
FUN HISTORY FACT
On this day in history, November 7, 1972, Joe Biden at the age of 29 years old was one of the youngest persons ever elected to the United States Senate. His birthday on November 20 shortly thereafter made him old enough to serve beginning in January 1973 at the age of 30 years old.
Today in history, November 7, 2020, Joe Biden was declared President-Elect at the age of 77, and God willing will be the oldest man ever to be sworn in as President of the United States on January 20, 2021 at the age of 78 years old.
I think it'll be great to have a president with near 5 decades of experience in DC as opposed to electing a con artist member of a crime family with zero experience. :)
Chris Weigant
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Anyone else used to have a Lite-Brite? They were cool...
Used to? I still have one. They still sell them.
Check this:
https://notian.net/litebrite/
Here's an idea I just heard:
Everyone who follows Trump on Twitter just to see him in all his crazy splendor needs to go unfollow him now. If his followers total drops significantly in the next few days, maybe that'll get through to him in a very personal way.
Just a thought...
Nice, but you better post that "thought" into Russian Cyrillic russkiy alfavit if you want to see a depreciable decrease in numbers of the Trump Twitterati.
Vsem, kto podpisan na Trampa v Tvittere, chtoby uvidet' yego vo vsem yego bezumnom velikolepii, nuzhno otpisat'sya ot nego seychas. Yesli kolichestvo yego posledovateley znachitel'no upadet v blizhayshiye neskol'ko dney, vozmozhno, eto doydet do nego lichno.
There you go. :)
Pentatonix just released this days ago, and it could not have come at a more perfect time as far as I am concerned! Amazing Grace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obp-9BEZe1c
Hey! What are we supposed to call Doug Emhoff on January 20, 2021? They've always referred to the Vice President's spouse as Second Lady of the United States or SLOTUS.
*thinking*
How about Second Chap of the United States or SCOTUS.
Uhhhh... Nope!
Second Lad of the United States... SLOTUS. :)
Kick -
If Hillary had won, I was all set to use "First Bubba Of The US" for Bill, personally....
:-)
-CW
I used [font hexnumber] and [/font] with the angles of course.
Hexnumber= the numeric color value.
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Comrade
Kick wrote,
Vsem, kto podpisan na Trampa v Tvittere, chtoby uvidet' yego vo vsem yego bezumnom velikolepii, nuzhno otpisat'sya ot nego seychas. Yesli kolichestvo yego posledovateley znachitel'no upadet v blizhayshiye neskol'ko dney, vozmozhno, eto doydet do nego lichno.
Sounds like pretty passable (phonetically rendered) Russian -- I dunno, I took Ukrainian, not Russian, in college many decades and brain cells ago.
I have to say, Comrade, ? ????? ?????????! "Yah ochen' vpechatlen."
[118]
"? ?????? ...etc"
Well, this Comments section is not capable of handling Cyrillic characters.
My vote is for calling him "SDOTUS"
Second Dude of the United States
I signed up for texts from both campaigns. Both hit me up for money or phone banking 4-6 times a day.
FYI Here's what Trump is pushing,
Pres. Trump: I need you. The Left will try to STEAL this Election!! I'm calling on YOU to step up & FIGHT BACK. 1000%-IMPACT! DONATE NOW: bit.ly/358NRS0 Your support is critical right now, friend. We must protect the integrity of this Election. Can I count on you? Donate NOW: bit.ly/358NRS0
It's my understanding that the fine print says half the money he raises goes to settle his campaign's debts.
[118]
Yah ochen' vpechatlen, tovarishch! means, "I'm quite impressed, Comrade!"
Since Election Day I've spent a lot of hours in the comments sections on Faux News and OANN. There are tons of fools who think the election was stolen from Trump and that America is descending into the horrors of Bolshevism. Some of them are even advocating for a 2nd Civil War.
I'm happy to report that there are numerous Fellow Travelers who are trolling these retards with great gusto.
[103]
Chris Weigant wrote:
Damn. OK, this could be trickier than I thought.
Red and Courier seem to be working for me. But I guess that's because I'm the super-user or something. Also, I tried adding a few other basic colors, but they didn't work either. If none of it works for everyone else, then I'm going to have to dig a whole lot deeper to see how to make it work. Which I don't have time for right now (sorry).
But I'll keep trying...
-CW
Chris, my BFF has been trying to get me to become a coder. He's set up a library of tutorials and recommends that I learn:
HTML
JaveScript
CSS
And something called "Python" so I can get into the A/I business. What "language" powers this Comments section? Maybe I can poke around on everybody's behalf, as I do not want you to be distracted from cranking out the content, Baby!
Just texted this to my Trumpanzie buddy just now:
I've talked it over with my Comrades here in our local Democratic Club, and I think I can keep you off the "Reeducation Gulag" list. I don't have a lot of juice just yet (I'm only 2nd Commisar of Public Outreach) but I'm arguing that our ability to discuss politics like friends/not enemies means you could be in a "Supervised Probation Status" and get to stay in your home. No promises but I'm working hard for you.
And NO mandatory sex change operation for my buddy Anthony!
Am I evil?
Sooomebody...stop me!
[42] Elizabeth
I can tell that Biden is going to have a tough time as president.
And, on top of that, he'll still have the Republicans to worry about!
Not if Biden follows Glenn Kirschner's advice. I hope he does, starting the very first day. McConnell's head will explode and I'd love to see it!
[49] John From Censornati
How will there be any "progressives"? They would have to be "acting" because McConnell.
Not if Biden follows the course of action set out by Glenn Kirschner.
[53] Kick
That is brilliant and beautiful. I truly admire the talent of text artists (is that the right term?). I'm in awe of the logistics and patience it must take to create these pictures.
[124] MtnCaddy
It's not the code; it's the rules (that don't apply to CW). Everything gets stripped off. The only font change I've ever gotten through was a subscript I tried once. While I used to be able to send target=_"blank" to open a link in a new tab, that now gets stripped as well.
You're against Progressivism?
Of course, not, silly!
I just don't like some of the behavior of many progressives, especially during the 2020 primary season. But, that's just me.
When I think 'progressive' in terms of a wing of the Democratic party, I think "I want what I want when I want it!" Heh.
I love progressivism! And, so does Joe Biden. :)
There's progress ... and, then, there are progressives. Heh.
MtnCaddy,
The only reason we're not reflecting on a "Blue Tsunami" instead of the "Biden, meh -- better than Putin's Bitch, I guess" is that the Dem Establishment coalesced behind Joe instead of letting Bernie win the nomination.
Time to start leaving the nonsense behind!
Kick,
Also, how could I not post Joe Biden as Captain America because Elizabeth Miller!? :)
What!? Now, THIS I gotta see ...
That was fun!
Long live Wakanda!
MtnCaddy,
"too many progressives"
Please don't quote me out of context - it changes the meaning of what I say. Heh.
Oh, and I'll check out the article in Foreign Affairs and get back to but, not tonight! :)
Chris,
Everyone who follows Trump on Twitter just to see him in all his crazy splendor needs to go unfollow him now. If his followers total drops significantly in the next few days, maybe that'll get through to him in a very personal way.
That is an excellent idea! Unfortunately, I don't do twitter.
Kick - 109
Never set my hair on fire, but I did knock down a garage with a backhoe when I was 5 or 6. I had an accomplice. The construction crew must have left the keys in the ignition. Nobody got hurt, I was too young for reform school. My memory of the event is hazy.
CW-110
I was a freshman in high school when Lite-Brite hit the toy stores. I was very fond of plastic bricks as kid. Very realistic. I used to build little ruined villages for my army men to assault. Rubber bands for rifle caliber, marbles for artllery. Very Adams Family-ish in retrospect.
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Elizabeth Miller wrote:
sorry, i'm not folowing the news of who will be in the administration, just hoping there won't be an inordinate number of 'progressives' ... :0
Okay, so what "context" are you talking about? A thread of comments, perhaps?
Count me in among the Glenn Kirschner for AG crew!
Hint:
#SDNY he's all yours
-Michael Steele
Joe Biden just delivered the best speech that I've yet heard out of him.
Kamala is IMO a better speaker than the President-elect, and she also hit it out of the park.
give it a rest caddy, liz has been waiting for this moment for thirty years!
;p
MtnCaddy [141]
I wasn't as impressed by Harris's speech, but that may have been because I was much more eager to hear Biden and felt like she was making me wait. That said, Biden's speech was worth the wait. Excellent speech, everything I could have wanted to hear from him.
can i dare to hope for diane ravitch as secretary of education?
I thought that was a damn fine speech. Excellent delivery all around. Kamala's was OK, but Joe knocked it out of the park. Maybe that's just me, I dunno.
What I really thought, about halfway through, was that it was all so normal. Any politician from the past 40 years could have given that speech (except for the pandemic references). And that's the whole point.
Because I also tried to picture Trump giving that speech. I couldn't. Not even a paragraph of it. Except maybe for one of those "hostage video/TelePropter" performances, I guess. He just could never conceive of any of the concepts Joe hammered on over and over -- empathy, unity, progress, inclusiveness.
And that is precisely what I am looking forward to for the next four years.
In a word, normalcy. Once again.
Personally, I would have either begun or ended with "Our long national nightmare is over." But Biden did manage to very subtly flip a giant bird at Trump with that paragraph towards the beginning about "people around the world celebrating with such joy" -- I gotta get the text from that one, as it's worth quoting again!
Can't wait to see what SNL does tonight. I'm not real impressed with Jim Carry (sp?) so far, they should just give it back to the cast member that used to do Joe. But what I'd really like to see is no Joe at all -- instead, just Alec Baldwin's Trump raging at his TV screen while Biden speaks. Oh, to be a fly on the wall for that one! SNL could do that one justice, that's for sure...
Anyway, like I said, a damn fine speech. We've waited all week long for that speech, and Joe delivered it well.
:-)
-CW
Yeah, yer right nypoet22
I turn 62 on the 12th and figure I got 20 or 30 years left. And we Progs gotta save the Democratic Party from the Democratic Establishment. Guess I'm chomping at the bit.
Hey Elizabeth! It was way too fucking close -- how do 70 million American Idiots choose Trump over Joe?
But we made it. We got him in. Told you so, ye Moderate of little faith!
Whoops... "TelePrompTer"
What was I thinking?
Post hoc ergo TelePropter hoc?
Heh.
Mea culpa.
-CW
Yeppers, SNL is "must watch" TV, fer sure.
MtnCaddy,
... how do 70 million American Idiots choose Trump over Joe?
They don't.
Seventy million of your fellow Americans voted for Trump. When he is sworn in as president, Biden will need your help in persuading them to give him a chance.
@cw,
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-11-07/joe-biden-victory-speech-2020-election-transcript
MtnCaddy
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Am I evil?
Vy voploshcheniye zla.
Chris,
I thought that was a damn fine speech. Excellent delivery all around. Kamala's was OK, but Joe knocked it out of the park. Maybe that's just me, I dunno.
Interesting. I guess I've seen too many Biden speeches and maybe I'm too used to them and know what to expect and so I didn't rank this one at the top.
I really liked Kamala's speech, though - it was very well delivered and, to my ears, it hit all of the right notes.
MtnCaddy
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:)
Joshua,
liz has been waiting for this moment for thirty years!
Yes. Yes, I have. I really have!
There was narrow window of time when I thought the dream had died but, it was written in the stars all the while. :)
nypoet22 -
Thanks, but those must have been "remarks as prepared for delivery." Biden either ad-libbed that whole paragraph, or it was added at the last minute...
Gotta find a "remarks as delivered" transcript...
-CW
LizM [152] -
I didn't say "best," but I still thought it was pretty good. For Biden (on his own speechifyin' scale), I'd give it at least an 8, maybe an 8.5 or 9...
-CW
I thought it was pretty good, too - I think I was smiling too much to hear it! :)
@cw,
yeah i can't seem to find that either, but i'm sure they'll put it up somewhere soon.
by the by, i'm serious about diane ravitch. if biden was serious when he said,
For America’s educators, this is a great day: You’re going to have one of your own in the White House
i say, if you're serious about this, someone needs to talk to jill about appointing diane ravitch as edsec. if that's not what happens, it's still all talk.
JL
Best Biden speech ever, while we're on the topic ... his farewell address to his beloved senate.
MtnCaddy,
If you haven't seen this speech, you should take a look. It really was a wonderful farewell to an institution he so loved.
joshua,
i say, if you're serious about this, someone needs to talk to jill about appointing diane ravitch as edsec. if that's not what happens, it's still all talk.
Has Biden already put her name out there?
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try to name another one who could possibly merit that description
I nominate Andrew Jackson.
Kick
Hey! What are we supposed to call Doug Emhoff on January 20, 2021? They've always referred to the Vice President's spouse as Second Lady of the United States or SLOTUS.
Hello, my sweet friend! I believe his title will be The Second Gentleman. BTW, just wanted to thank you and everyone else who worked in their communities with the Biden campaign to rid us of Trump! I know you were working hard to turn Texas blue, and I just feel like someone should thank you for putting in the sweat and time to get us our country back...so ”Thank you!”
Stacy Abrams kicked AS$ in my home state of Georgia! She wasn’t alone in this fight, but she was the soul of the movement. (Side Note: It was John Lewis’ precincts votes that flipped the state for Biden. I have to believe he was smiling down on Trump and laughing his big laugh!) While I wanted Stacy Abrams as Bidens’s VP and Kamala Harris as his AG, I now think having Stacy in charge of securing our national elections and having Glenn Kirschner running the DOJ would be acceptable.
Kick,
I echo Russ's sentiments above - thank-you for all of your hard work and continuing efforts.
Thanks to all who put time and effort into making this day happen, all over America!
MtnCaddy
Count me in among the Glenn Kirschner for AG crew!
Hint:
#SDNY he's all yours
-Michael Steele
I LOVE Glenn! I watch his YouTube videos daily and love his ideas on how to deal with McConnell and the Senate if the GOP retains the Senate and he continues to kill any bill that the House has passed -- ram it through and let McConnell cry to the courts that he should be allowed to refuse to follow the Constitution’s instructions on the Senate’s duties.
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Kick wrote:
MtnCaddy
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Am I evil?
Vy voploshcheniye zla.*
Spacibo! A ty moya devushka.**
Follow along at home, Boys and Girls!
*"You are evil, incarnate"
**"Thanks! And you're my kind of girl"
Mopshell [128]
Not if Biden follows Glenn Kirschner's advice. I hope he does, starting the very first day. McConnell's head will explode and I'd love to see it!
Love it! I love his ideas and views on how to deal with the Trump Crime Syndicate.
My favourite Biden phrase of all time has always been whenever he talks about America leading best when it leads not only by the example of its power but by the power of its example. That's actually tied for first with "the promise of America". Love, love, love it when he utters either one. Can't wait for his speech at the inaguration!
I first became seriously interested in US politics during the Iran/Contra hearings in 1987. This is when I first came across Senator Biden and have been following US foreign policy largely but not solely through him, to a lesser or greater degree ever since.
I was so disappointed when he decided against running for president in 2004 because he was the only guy on the planet that had a plan for US-Iraq policy that could have avoided a lot of pain and suffering and death - for American soldiers and the Iraqi people, alike. His reason for not running was because of his deep and tireless involvement in working to resolve the situation in Iraq.
When asked if he would like to be Secretary in State in a Kerry administration, he said that he'd rather be Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, assuming Democrats controlled the senate. If not, then sure, he'd love to be secretary of state. Heh. I love that story - it says so much about who Biden is.
Tovarishch Kick,
My dolzhny poyti na svidaniye. Budet veselo, my mozhem vstretit'sya v Arizone...Naydite yevreyskuyu derevnyu i nachnite nebol'shoy pogrom! Eto budet veselo!*
*We should go on a date. We could meet in Arizona...find a Jewish village and start a little pogrom! It'll be fun!
This f---ing virus’: Inside Donald Trump’s 2020 undoing
How Biden prevailed and Trump fell short in an unforgettable election, according to conversations with 75 insiders
Hey Elizabeth! Got Joe's farewell to the Senate speech teed up. Probably listen to it with my morning coffee.
Excellent! Have some kleenex ready.
I'm kidding.
G'nite all!
Naw, I don't think you're kidding, Miss Canada.
That's okay -- real men cry, unashamedly, in public.
G'Nite, dear Elizabeth. Sleep well secure in the knowledge that North America had a good week, this loooong week.
We did it!
Elizabeth Miller
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That was fun!
"Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking." ;)
I thought you would like that. Heh.
TheStig
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Never set my hair on fire, but I did knock down a garage with a backhoe when I was 5 or 6. I had an accomplice. The construction crew must have left the keys in the ignition.
And y'all two just accidentally cranked it right up; I hate when that happens. ;)
Nobody got hurt, I was too young for reform school. My memory of the event is hazy.
Carbon monoxide can rapidly accumulate in areas that are not well ventilated and make you loopy. "We did not touch that tractor occifer; it just took off on its own so we chased it down and pushed buttons until we located the kill switch." ;)
Update for all:
No luck on the colors or the font thing yet. BUT... I did fix it so everyone can type "casino".
You're welcome...
:-)
-CW
[168] MtnCaddy
Ixnay on the pogrom. It's an "ethnic cleansing.".
Yeah, well, call me "old school."
ixnay on the oolskay
it's called a community learning center ;p
@liz,
as far as i know, nobody has suggested ravitch as edsec who isn't a teacher. but jill IS a teacher, so who knows...
JL
[91] MtnCaddy wrote:
"Biden can’t take us back to the happy assumptions of the centrist era even if he wants to, because so many of its celebrated policy achievements lie in ruins. Not even Paul Krugman enthuses about Nafta-style trade agreements any longer. Bill Clinton’s welfare reform initiative was in fact a capitulation to racist tropes and brought about an explosion in extreme poverty. The great prison crackdown of 1994 was another step in cementing the New Jim Crow. And the biggest shortcoming of Obama’s Affordable Care Act – leaving people’s health insurance tied to their employer – has become painfully obvious in this era of mass unemployment and mass infection.
Yeah, in the style of douchebag Michale, that's a lot of quote. But Elizabeth and other Moderates let's discuss! Please please please convince me why I'm wrong about this!"
I'll give it a go on at least two of your issues:
1) Even Biden admits now that what he did on the crime bill was a mistake, and that criminal justice reform will be a top priority of his administration. Plus, with so many states now legalizing marijuana, A lot of the racial disparity regarding drugs and incarceration will now start to ameliorate.
2) Another top goal of Biden's will be improving and expanding the ACA, especially with a public option which should have been included in the first place. If people are allowed to choose a public option, then health insurance tied to employment may simply whither away and die a natural death all on its own accord.
[116] Chris Weigant wrote:
"If Hillary had won, I was all set to use "First Bubba Of The US" for Bill, personally...."
I thought Bill Clinton had settled on being called "The First Dude?"
Madame Vice President for Kamala also has a nice ring to it. :-)
[128] Mopshell wrote:
"Not if Biden follows the course of action set out by Glenn Kirschner."
What exactly was Glenn's advice? Would you mind giving a brief summary here please?
Oh, by the way Michale, IF you are watching, I hope you will still honor your bet regarding the election. I expect to see a post of YOU holding a sign saying you are always WRONG and I am always RIGHT, since the criteria of 2 out of 3 things happening WERE MET:
1) Biden won and Trump lost and....
2) Democrats retained control of the HOUSE
If I remember correctly those were the conditions and the stakes, RIGHT???
ListenWhenYouHear
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Russ! Well, Texas turned more Blue by ~3.2% at the current time, but they're still counting ballots all over the country. There was a massive turnout both Red and Blue, and Cook Political Report has a chart that shows the statistics for:
* Current 2020 Results
* Swing vs. 2016 Margin
* Raw Votes Cast vs. 2016
https://cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker
Dang those Georgia "raw votes" and statistics are off the charts... up +21.6 turnout! That's insane! Stacey Abrams is kicking ass; I hope she can work her magic for the runoffs in January, but that is going to be one heavy lift in a head-to-head contest in Georgia.
The good news is the Blue shift in 40+ states nationwide. If I was Susan Collins in a state shifting more Blue, I'd consider making myself an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats. Sue should be concerned that her Party is full of a shit-ton of QAnon conspiracy nuts and getting crazier by the day. Heh.
Thanks, Russ. Another election and on to the next one.
Y'all take care of yourselves up there! :)
@jm/caddy,
give the man a moment, it's less than a day since the media called the race. over the years i've had many wagers with michale, and he's always held up his end with honor and humor no matter which way it went. mike's many things, but a d-bag isn't one.
JL
@kick,
trump did 4.6% better in NY than he did in 2016?
Elizabeth Miller
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You're welcome, Canada! They launched fireworks for us in London and rang out the bells for us in Paris. So what was it that Canada did? Ah, right... a tweet!
Send your people down here to talk to our people next year. We promise not to do this:
We promise it'll be more like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpNknqySZl8
Slow and steady wins the race, baby! And then the pendulum always swings back... and 2022 midterms it will likely be swinging back to the Right like usual. Oh, well... like you said on election day: We'll sleep when we're dead. :)
MtnCaddy
168
Moyemu muzhu eto ponravilos' by; on rodilsya tam. *big grin*
I just read about Biden's shelter dog. A shelter dog in the White House is awesome.
Chris Weigant
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No luck on the colors or the font thing yet. BUT... I did fix it so everyone can type "casino".
Casino.
Casino.
Casino.
Wow... I feel liberated. Now, where are my promised font and edit function? ;)
You're welcome...
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nypoet22
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trump did 4.6% better in NY than he did in 2016?
They're at 85% and still counting, but you know how it can be in states where voters know the outcome. It might just be a turnout issue in parts of a state where Democrats always win coupled with the pandemic.
I guess we'll know when they're done counting. :)
John From Censornati
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I just read about Biden's shelter dog. A shelter dog in the White House is awesome.
It's Major! :)
[185]
John M wrote:
Oh, by the way Michale, IF you are watching, I hope you will still honor your bet regarding the election. I expect to see a post of YOU holding a sign saying you are always WRONG and I am always RIGHT, since the criteria of 2 out of 3 things happening WERE MET:
1) Biden won and Trump lost and....
2) Democrats retained control of the HOUSE
If I remember correctly those were the conditions and the stakes, RIGHT???
Aaaand...to refresh your memory, Michale...
Michale wrote:
...The only reason I hang around is that, once President Trump glides to re-election with over 40% of the black American vote, it will be such a shock to ya'all's system that it will snap you back to reality…
MC,
Even though you are a confessed troll, I have decided to reinstate the wager for you and JM...
I have done this after careful consultations and decided that it would be a boon to help out CW and Weigantia.. The Grand Poobah will be thrilled to receive such monetary funding for Weigantia..
And I'll be thrilled that it's provided by morons who actually thought President Trump would lose when ALL the facts prove otherwise.. :D
I responded,
Black vote (BV) for Trump over 50% MC pays CW $200
BV over 40% MC pays $150
BV over 33% MC pays $100
BV over 25% MC pays $50
BV UNDER 25% Michale pays $50
BV under 20% Michale pays $100
BV under 15% Michale pays $150
BV under 8%** Michale pays $200
**The black support Trump won in 2016
Wager shall be determined as follows (as posted by John M)
As pointed out by C.W. ONLY EXIT POLLING gives that kind of racial breakdown. So if you accept it based on an average of exit polling data by all networks: NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC then you have a DEAL.
Please confirm our wager by noting this comment's number and copying & pasting:
MtnCaddy you better start saving up your money, foole!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
BTW for the record I am NOT "a confessed troll." I said that I trolled you (verb, describing a single action.) I did not say that I am a troll (noun, indicating a state of being/lifestyle choice.)
Like your not a troll, eh?
'Tever. Are you gonna "stand and deliver" on these two wagers?
Or are you simply not going to show your face around here (at the Adults Table) anymore?
Man up or shut up. Either way Weigantia has had a good week -- in more ways than one.
[190]
Kick wrote:
MtnCaddy
168
Moyemu muzhu eto ponravilos' by; on rodilsya tam. *big grin*
My Google thingy translates that as,
"My husband would love that; he was born there."
Day-yam! Not thrilled to hear about the hubbie part, but I have long surmised that all the excellent Broads here in Weigantia were all taken.
*sigh*
Saturday Nov. 7th's
SNL Cold Open
[195]
On this very subject, here's the New York Times
Election Exit Polls, with nice graphics.
Okay, you Least Coast Fellow Travelers, I'm out for the night.
We got our first snow of the winter today, a light dusting of 6" thus far.
Group (% of ALL voters)/Trump v. Biden:
Male (47%) 49-48
Female (53%) 43-56
White (65%) 57-42
Latino (13%) 32-56
Black (12%) 12-87
Asian (3%) 31-63
Others (6%) 40-58
Under $50k (35%) 42-57
$50-$99,999 (38%) 43-56
$100,000+ (28%) 54-43
Chris,
No luck on the colors or the font thing yet. BUT... I did fix it so everyone can type "casino".
Thank the gods!
:-)
MrnCaddy,
Group (% of ALL voters)/Trump v. Biden:
Male (47%) 49-48
White (65%) 57-42
So, what's the matter with white people? Especially the men?? You don't have to answer that. It baffles me, though.
I ran into an older white guy at work yesterday and we had a very limited chat about the election which proved my point about Democrats and the economy.
This man told me that Biden will be bad for the economy, raise everyone's taxes and send US business to Canada.
I told him the funny thing is that Republicans always drive the economy into ruin and Democrats are left to clean up the mess. We didn't have enough time to persuade each other but, he was firmly in the grasp of the Republican cult of economic failure. I think he is quite representative of a large chunk of conservative Canada.
Had Trump won - and let's stipulate that if he didn't always get in his own way all the time, he would have won - I would have warned you that it wouldn't be a good idea to move here, sorry to say.
John,
Elizabeth and other Moderates let's discuss! Please please please convince me why I'm wrong about this!
I'd love to discuss and try to persuade but, not today. Give me some time to bask in the warmth of the sunshine that is Biden's victory. I've waited a long time for this and I just want to savour all of it for a while before getting back into the thick of it.
Sorry, John ... that was for MtnCaddy!
Have I lost a post? 2nd try.
Yes, let's celebrate now, even if we know there will be serious difficulties and serious disagreements ahead.
Is this a possible scenario? Come January, 45 goes off to play golf, Melania is on vacation, the trumpettes are travelling for 'business'. Inauguration day comes and goes.... None of them turn up, except in tweets about crowd size and so on.... (Was yesterday's golf a tactic for avoiding the unpleasant news?)
That sounds about right, Mezzomamma.
Hey, everyone!
I'm thinking that we might forego the CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party tonight and resume with the next FTP column. There is too much to say and too much going on, after all. :)
Or, we could play the tunes and just temporarily suspend the rule for no political comments?
What d'ya think!?
That Trump team press conference in the gravel parking lot of Four Seasons Total Landscaping, next to a dildo store and a crematorium was a nice bit of absurdist humor. A cherry on top of the whole thing so to speak. It's still cracking me up this morning...
Did everybody notice PA Lt Gov John Fetterman? He looks like an outlaw biker and was on cable news all week.
I grew up in a little steel mill town on the Ohio River in western PA. I worked in the mill to earn money for college. There are a lot of boarded up main streets in those towns these days. Every time I saw Fetterman this week, he was speaking from Braddock. It's one of those towns. It dawned on me that he was the mayor. I didn't know that he'd become Lt Gov. His story is worth reading. This article barely scratches the surface.
I love that his wife calls herself SLOP (2nd Lady of PA).
[207] I already had my selection all queued up and it can't wait for next week.
Absolution is out of the question.
It's one of my favorite songs of all time and it's perfect for Fat Donny's futile legal challenges.
It's all over but the shouting
Just a waste of time
So Never Mind
[203]
Elizabeth Miller wrote:
Elizabeth and other Moderates let's discuss! Please please please convince me why I'm wrong about this!
I'd love to discuss and try to persuade but, not today. Give me some time to bask in the warmth of the sunshine that is Biden's victory. I've waited a long time for this and I just want to savour all of it for a while before getting back into the thick of it.
Agreed. I struggle with industrial strength anxiety which means that I have trouble celebrating anything -- I usually fast forward to worrying about the next scary thing. This is the endgame of a five year long National Embarrassment and it's hard to believe that Trump is going to be trading the Whitehouse for the Big House.
Re this evening's activities I say...throw in a tune/throw in a rant/let Freedom reign! I got drunk last Sunday and passed out so I missed the Progressive Rock theme that I lobbied you for.
But yes, I'm too whacked to want to be locked into anything or even into making much of any kind of decision.
Yea, verily, let us collectively just bask for a moment.
[168] MtnCaddy wrote:
We could meet in Arizona...find a Jewish village and start a little pogrom! It'll be fun!
Please help me understand the "old school" meaning of progrom that entails going to a community of Jews to start that would be fun. I can't see it from here, yet somehow I don't think you mean it would be fun to mess around with or harm people because of what you perceive their religion to be. Tell me it ain't so.
[212] Maybe imagine Borat saying that?
[213] John From Censornati
I shall look into the reference then. Context might help me here. Thanks.
212] MyVoice wrote:
[168] MtnCaddy wrote:
We could meet in Arizona...find a Jewish village and start a little pogrom! It'll be fun!
Please help me understand the "old school" meaning of progrom that entails going to a community of Jews to start that would be fun. I can't see it from here, yet somehow I don't think you mean it would be fun to mess around with or harm people because of what you perceive their religion to be. Tell me it ain't so.
Jesus Christ, lighten up! That was a J-O-K-E, hello?
(note to self, dial down sophistication of jokes)
213]
John From Censornati wrote:
[212] Maybe imagine Borat saying that?
Perfect analogy! My voice, just think of me as a taller, better looking Borat (with a bigger shmok haha.)
@caddy,
if you're jewish then that joke is inappropriate to the forum, and if you're not then using it here is straight up antisemitic. i personally wouldn't have bothered to call you out on it, but that's just how it is. what counts isn't how you feel about the joke, it's how the people whose experience you're using might potentially feel as a result of it.
would you casually refer to a buddy using the n-word, and berate anyone (black or not) for not having a sense of humor about it?
JL
or a slave ship joke, or whatever. you get the point.
Sooomebody...call the Political Correctness Police!
Lighten up people. Or go demonstrate against Borat Subsequent Movie Film.
[219] MtnCaddy
So hard to find the humor in racial/genocidal violence of any kind. I'm saddened that you think it either a matter of political correctness or lack of a sense of humor.
@caddy,
sacha baron cohen can get away with horribly tasteless jokes because he's a brilliant satirist. i consider it a given that you had no intention to give offense, which is why i didn't take any. i'm not here to police what you say.
however, if you're going to get defensive rather than own up to the line your comment crossed... well, i've had the past four years with a president who regularly crossed lines and marginalized anyone who dared speak the truth about what he did.
JL
Oh no...
The only person who All Americans believe...
Has died.
RIP Alex T.
LL&P
As for Borat...I did explain where it starts and stops with Sasha B. Cohen...He's him, not we...he pushes the lines where few even dare to tread.
LL&P
[210] Well, alrighty then, welcome everyone to the CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party! Let the fun begin ...
Oh, yeah, I have a little story to tell about the unofficial theme song for the Rolling Stones' UNZIPPED exhibition, coming next November to Kitchener, the only Canadian stop for this extravaganza. Hopefully, Biden will soon act to get the US epidemic under control so you'll be able to come see it! :)
But, must grab some dinner first ...
Oh, by the way, I'll not be paying attention to US news for awhile so, please let me know if I miss anything important!
RE: your brains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tmzjaN2DWc
BashiBazouk
208
That Trump team press conference in the gravel parking lot of Four Seasons Total Landscaping, next to a dildo store and a crematorium was a nice bit of absurdist humor. A cherry on top of the whole thing so to speak. It's still cracking me up this morning...
I know, right!? I can't stop laughing about that, Bashi.
For those who aren't familiar with this incident, I must here and now document what happened there in Philadelphia for all posterity. Ahem.
Donald Trump tweeted out that there would be a press conference at the Four Seasons in Philadelphia and then deleted it five minutes later. Trump tweets and deletes several times regarding the bigly important presser:
Trump's Deleted Tweets
The Four Seasons Hotel Philadelphia tweets out to clarify that the Trump presser is not being held at their hotel.
Minutes later, Trump tweets again:
So... heh... Donald is obviously under the impression the presser is being held at the Four Seasons hotel and had to delete that tweet and correct it. *laughs* Of course, the timing on all this tweeting is occurring before the networks have called the race for Joe Biden.
Meanwhile, the press... as they are wont to do... arrive and begin reporting, distributing photos, and Twitter is having a field day with the fact that the Trump presser is being held in the gravel parking lot of a landscaping company... like Bashi said... that is located next to a dildo store and a crematorium.
As an aside: This is the campaign of the President of the United States embarrassing itself to the whole world. You don't hold an impromptu presser in a place like that unless you're broke and/or totally inept. Might as well have it at a casino. I only said that casino part because I feel unconstrained and free to now use this sacred word that was once heretofore and hitherto banned, but I digress.
Of course, y'all know what happens next, before the press conference at the skeevy location begins, the race for the presidency is finally, mercifully called for Joe Biden. The world rejoices, there is -- literally -- dancing in the streets, and the long national nightmare is [nearly] over.
The entire press conference is like a scene out of a movie, a comedy, of course. It seems Rugy G has learned nothing from the "Borat Subsequent Moviefilm" incident and is determined to repeat the stupid captured therein on film for all posterity. This nut job is a lawyer for the President of the United States.
I heard a joke being told about that presser, which for the record I'm only repeating here for the record because history:
*
Hey, y'all, I didn't compose that; I just recorded it herein for history, and if you have a problem with it, kindly address your concerns to the "movie star" who learned absolutely nothing from being caught with his pants down and decided to hold a Trump press conference at the "Four Seasons" next to a dildo shop and near a crematorium. :)
[208]
I worry this might be the last of.." you can't make this shit up"
But then I realise there are weeks of this full-frontal effrontery coming down the wash...
LL&P
John From Censornati
209
This! I'll read the article later, thanks for posting it, JFC.
You've gotta love John Fetterman! Don't let the looks fool you, that man is a Harvard grad. His wife is an immigrant from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, who came to the United States as a child. Both Fetterman and his wife's stories are awesome, and it wouldn't surprise me even a tiny bit if they're not the future first family of Pennsylvania. :)
Trump is fiddling a tune he can make whole out of the cloth available...
Corrupt them.
Stolen by them.
They
Them
Those...not ME, or you.
It's wholesale gaslighting, and it's own reward for those that tickle that way.
I'm looking forward to Biden putting Obama (either as both can do it with ease) in charge of the CV19 scene. Then seeing both he and his more than capable VP fan out over the concerns of a nation, both nationally and internationally...
(Me, being at heart, Anti-Comintern, would park 12 Aircraft carriers offa the Baltic coast and make Putin my bitch until he squealed)
LL&P
MyVoice
212
Please help me understand the "old school" meaning of progrom that entails going to a community of Jews to start that would be fun. I can't see it from here, yet somehow I don't think you mean it would be fun to mess around with or harm people because of what you perceive their religion to be. Tell me it ain't so.
He's trying to be a comedian here, but that's not really all too funny, I agree. I have a million reasons that could inflame me, some of which have been discussed here on the forum, but I just let it roll like water off a duck's back because I do not believe he meant any harm by it.
I posted a doozy myself regarding Trump, a dildo store, and a crematorium. It's the kind of joke that'll incense any Trumpanzee who reads it... while at the same time they're always prattling on and on about too much "political correctness." Heh. I hope everyone knows I'm joking like I'm pretty sure MC was. :)
John From Censornati
213
Exactly, JFC. He wrote it to me, and that's exactly how I read it. :)
Pogram...an instigated act of violence against a minority, visible or otherwise.
Progrom....no such word.
LL&P
MtnCaddy
215
Jesus Christ, lighten up! That was a J-O-K-E, hello?
So you think "MyVoice" is the voice of Jesus?
(note to self, dial down sophistication of jokes)
I know, right!? Better dial it down or Jesus Christ will smote thee. Heh. I could not stop myself. :p
Jesus Christ...Bellowed the voice of reason to the whispers of faith...
Lol...I have to admire the attempt.
LL&P
I dare anyone to dial down the sophistication of humour and face the deserved derision and hopelessness that action warrants.
I like to think this place feels no need to pull its punches.
LL&P
Kick [227]
The best I've read so far:
Poor Rudy, caught between a cock and a hot place...
nypoet22
221
however, if you're going to get defensive rather than own up to the line your comment crossed... well, i've had the past four years with a president who regularly crossed lines and marginalized anyone who dared speak the truth about what he did.
I hear you... loud and clear... but remember that time your buddy accused me of "defending Nazis" and you took up for him because that was just him being him and was "well documented"? And you asked me not to escalate by responding?
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2017/08/14/terrorism-is-terrorism/#comment-107979
This isn't our first discussion about these things. I know your history, and I've reported mine. MC wrote that to me, and I've chosen not to escalate. I learned that from you. :)
[237]
'Poor Rudy, caught between a cock and a hot place...'
heha
LL&P
I do hope this clears this up, Borat isn't anything more than a 'send up' of radicals...
By his own admission, Cohen uses Borat to poke fun at the right-wing, the same right-wing the character is self-spoofing. Don't forget, Borat is systemically anti-semite, in his persona...He may as well be a 'good ole boy' hunting black folk in Ghana, for all his sledgehammer wit.
If you can't see the aim, GTFO of humour you can't fathom. If you see it as anti-semitic, frankly, you're the fool he's trying to poke fun at, if you're offended...he's hit the mark.
LL&P
BashiBazouk
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The best I've read so far:
Poor Rudy, caught between a cock and a hot place...
Heh. Everybody take turns telling jokes saying stupid stuff none of us really means... except this one about Rudy G because he's a hot mess... and sadly... the lawyer of the President of the United States and counterintelligence risks the entire lot of them.
Nothing really measures to the "four seasons Lawn maintenance Co." aspirational dejection that scene self-described...
That has to be the closing laugh on the Trumpian era...
Please.
LL&P
*
I feel certain that he'd still "cast" Rudy, and I'm pretty sure Rudy would be there for it. ;)
I'm still in a grave dancing mood.
Here's a shout out to the Motor City for delivering those Michigan EVs.
Detroit Breakdown
Launching a national revival of Republican righteousness and virtue from in front of the back door of a florists, flanked by a Dildo emporium and a funeral parlour might be where I would cynically embark a doomed comeback, but Not if I felt I had a cynic's view of my chances of a resurgence of hope.
Tough platform.
LL&P
Progrom - stipulated, no such word. Typo.
Having missed the cultural reference, I asked for clarification.
I am amazed the two old men in their seventies can hold an election up for this long.
This is all fine and dandy banter, the pestle hits the mortar when Biden confronts the blatant corruption left in Trump's wake...
We've been astonished by the breadth of its scope, under Trump.
Will Biden, et-al, seek comeuppance. Will we see Trump pardon( or at least convince his followers a pardon is SOP after a corrupt administration, vis. Nixon) this-a-way-and-that to keep his stalwarts from striped sunlight?
Exorcising demons is the first step for a hysterical mob to feel free of personal fault.
Let's see.
LL&P
Why is Canada so hostile and uncooperative? Help us out.
[247]
Lol, that's the best thing you've said here.
'I am amazed the two old men in their seventies can hold an election up for this long.'
Brilliant.
LL&P
John From Censornati
249
*laughs uncontrollably*
*stops to breath*
*resumes laughing*
Too funny. Nice car too. :)
SF Bear
247
I am amazed the two old men in their seventies can hold an election up for this long.
For a few seconds... scratch that... for one second, I was wondering how you knew that it was old men counting the ballots... and then I got the joke.
We are all just too funny today... a lot of jokes about dicks and pricks. Whose turn is it?
@kick,
wow, those were the days. you're right, but of course you knew that ;p
lol
[249]
Somewhat overstated, toeing the verbose...
Refresh me, what was your point?
;)
LL&P
John From Censornati
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I like this tune. Reminds me of EM:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Priest kneels silent, all is still
Policeman reaches from the sill
Watch him try, watch him try his best
There'll be no medal pinned to his chest
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Heh. :)
I listened to all the tunes posted.
That email song about brains! I'll bet that dude is fun at a parties. Heh.
Good tunes. Where is EM? Probably passed out tired. It's freaking Sunday already... and Tuesday through Saturday have melted into a single day.
Don't Stop Me Now... Don't Stop
Lovely ditty...
Dirty Sab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAekdzFOHI8
LL&P
the whole show is superb
yup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6njy7mZbwdc
LL&Play
[236]
James T Canuck wrote:
I dare anyone to dial down the sophistication of humour and face the deserved derision and hopelessness that action warrants.
I like to think this place feels no need to pull its punches.
[240]
James T Canuck wrote:
I do hope this clears this up, Borat isn't anything more than a 'send up' of radicals...
By his own admission, Cohen uses Borat to poke fun at the right-wing, the same right-wing the character is self-spoofing. Don't forget, Borat is systemically anti-semite, in his persona...He may as well be a 'good ole boy' hunting black folk in Ghana, for all his sledgehammer wit.
...If you can't see the aim, GTFO of humour you can't fathom. If you see it as anti-semitic, frankly, you're the fool he's trying to poke fun at, if you're offended...he's hit the mark.
To MyVoice and nypoet22...
That was just humor, very specifically inspired by SBC's Borat character. I'm sorry if your snowflake sensitivity was triggered, as, unlike Michale, I'm not interested in giving offense.
But I will not apologize for it. We're all adults and if you can't hang with the Adult's table then I'm sure there's a Kiddie table available.
One of my favorite quotes (paraphraseed) goes,
All comedy has it's roots in tragedy.
Think about that. No, really, think about that.
I self identify as a Loud and Proud Libtard and I have to say that the two worse overreaches of 60s-70s Liberalism were,
1-forced school busing, and,
2-political correctness. I effing hate PC.
You are my family, you two crazy kids, and I'm sincerely sad that you reacted as you did. Listen to your MtnCaddy big brother* and put on your big boy/big girls pants, get over yourself and deal with it. *Sheesh*
*I turn 62 on Thursday
@caddy,
unlike Michale, I'm not interested in giving offense.
but you're so good at it, ya bleedin' hypocrite. the initial joke was simply ignorant and in poor taste, but your defensiveness in response to MV's lack of appreciation for it is positively trumpian.
i'm 45, had already read the thomas frank article top to bottom, and LOVED borat: cultural learnings etc. etc., much to my wife's chagrin.
your error wasn't telling an offensive joke poorly, it was taking your right to tell such lousy and offensive jokes so damn seriously, while in the same breath deriding mike for doing the same. we're supposed to be laughing WITH you, not AT you. leave comedy to the professionals.
https://youtu.be/SDJQ7zn3-2g
(aside to kick - yes, i really ought to take my own advice. you know how rarely i bother to criticize anyone, especially those who i don't think will be receptive to it.)
JL
I'm so good at giving offense, snowflake? Just this time, or have I triggered you in the past? So, are you gonna get your panties all bunched up over a Borat-themed joke. A joke between myself and Kick?
Your over the top PC makes us Liberals look effing silly to the rest of the country that we're trying to get on board.
Get ye to the children's table, snowflake. Us grownups have work to do here.
I'm the one who's taking things too seriously? Look in the mirror.
Get.
Over.
Yourself.
MtnCaddy
259
You are my family, you two crazy kids, and I'm sincerely sad that you reacted as you did. Listen to your MtnCaddy big brother* and put on your big boy/big girls pants, get over yourself and deal with it. *Sheesh*
*I turn 62 on Thursday
So then, you're not even the old man around here. The mountain man is, and he's meaner than you. Play nice! :)
Sorry I missed out on all the fun last night - had to crash. I'll make up for it next week! :)
nypoet22
260
but you're so good at it, ya bleedin' hypocrite.
He's unfiltered... reminds me of this other guy whom you defend and call your friend.
the initial joke was simply ignorant and in poor taste, but your defensiveness in response to MV's lack of appreciation for it is positively trumpian.
So you're saying it's presidential? ;)
we're supposed to be laughing WITH you, not AT you. leave comedy to the professionals.
https://youtu.be/SDJQ7zn3-2g
Mmmmmmmm... pie. Oh, I like this.
(aside to kick - yes, i really ought to take my own advice. you know how rarely i bother to criticize anyone, especially those who i don't think will be receptive to it.)
I hear you, but also it can be this "not criticizing" of those not "receptive" that allows them a carte blanche to Trumpism... and sometimes somebody has to grow a pair and be informative. Nice pair. :)
MtnCaddy
261
Your over the top PC makes us Liberals look effing silly to the rest of the country that we're trying to get on board.
Stop and listen, please.
Two things:
* Happy Birthday, old man.
* There's things you don't know about us... so you are forgiven.
* Play nice.
Okay... three things. :)
Joshua[260],
Very well said! You always brighten up this place. :)
MtnCaddy,
Listen to your MtnCaddy big brother*
You mean big 'sister', right? Am I right!? :)
It's not that hard to tell whether anonymous comments are made by a girl, you know. It's something about the tone and words used. Though, I could be wrong ... I guess. Heh.
So, with a couple of days for it all to sink in, Biden/Harris's big election win is something for the history books.
While there wasn't a blue wave to speak of, the "six-inch tsunami" is quite remarkable, nevertheless. That overall mandate is very interesting - can't wait for today's column!
[263]
So who's the "mountain man!"
[268]
Nope, I'm a guy.
MtnCaddy
Where even to begin? Despite your fearsome chest-beating self-righteousness and name-calling, I am unbowed. I neither need nor want an apology from from you. A little introspection might be nice, but apparently isn't in the cards.
A joke between myself and Kick?
Actually, not. This is not a private space. It wouldn't have mattered if it were a really great joke involving lynching, the Armenian genocide, Indian massacres, the Holodomór, or any other murdering spree of humankind's collective past. Without the context, which I clearly didn't get and then asked for, that "joke" is merely an appalling statement.
Though many here have apparently seen the movie, I suspect I am not the sole reader of the blog who hasn't. I get that you don't care. Bully for you. You got rights, so bully on.
Even given the context, I don't think the joke stands, but that is just my opinion, which you are free to continue to airily dismiss. SBC uses his art to expose just how shallowly covered bias, prejudice, and hatred are; that he can so easily get ordinary people to join in is a frightening commentary on our society. That's his point and you just exemplified it.
I'm just getting started. I have to leave for an appointment, however, else this would be a real stemwinder. Later, maybe.
MtnCaddy
We're all adults and if you can't hang with the Adult's table then I'm sure there's a Kiddie table available.
OMG. So.Soul.Crushing. I now understand that I will never be one of the Cool Kids here. Fortunately, my junior high years are so far behind me that my crying jag was over before it began.
Truly, a group of "Adults" that has "evolved" beyond the need to tolerate other opinions or have consideration for others' lived life experiences holds no appeal for me. In my view, adults don't instantly reach for puerile putdowns; they engage in discussion.
Fini for stemwinder. I don't feel a need to express the rest.
So, ary U2 fans out there?
Well, anyone just craving for live music? ... you know, in the comfort of your own living room ... maybe on your relatively big TV screen?
Or, maybe you just want to be a part of supporting a great venue that is tryying its level best to put on shows for our edification and trying very hard to survive the pandemic ...
The Empire Theatre in Belleville is opening its doors for some live concerts (50 people in-house, 50 people only!) and streaming them live online.
Next up, on Wednesday November 11th, Classic Albums Live perform the Joshua Tree, note for note, cut for cut!
https://theempiretheatre.com/live/classic-albums-live-u2-joshua-tree/?mc_cid=83c5fecb6f&mc_eid=0b2d8f9610
See you there! :)
@kick,
He's unfiltered... reminds me of this other guy whom you defend and call your friend.
agreed.