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Republicans Want To Raise Taxes On Half Of America!

[ Posted Wednesday, February 23rd, 2022 – 16:44 UTC ]

This is going to be an article on political spin. I admit it, right up here at the start. But every once in a while, an opportunity arises for Democrats to do what Republicans always manage to do so effortlessly -- paint their entire opposition party as dangerously out of touch because of the extreme positions of a handful of them. Look how much mileage the GOP has gotten out of not only demonizing but also painting the entire Democratic Party with the broad brush of "Defund The Police," for instance. So when Democrats get a chance to return the favor, they really should leap at it.

Technically, that headline (if it weren't spun) should read: "One Republican Senate leader proposes making 'all Americans' pay at least a minimal amount of income taxes, which would mean that half of the American public would see a tax increase." That's a sober and very intellectually-honest way of putting it. But for once Democrats shouldn't worry about the niceties of absolute fealty to accuracy.

Instead, they should grab that broad brush and smear the entire GOP with it, for: "wanting to raise taxes on the poorest Americans -- those who can afford it least -- while continuing to shovel tax breaks at the ultra-wealthy." Because right now, it is as close to a national party platform for Republicans as they've been willing to make public. So Democrats should tear into it with a frenzy.

Here's the whole story. Mitch McConnell, a few weeks ago, raised a few eyebrows by baldly stating that Senate Republicans simply didn't need to tell the voters what their agenda was in the midterm elections. As he put it when asked what the GOP agenda would be if they took back the Senate: "That's a very good question. And I'll let you know when we take it back." In other words, after the election would be soon enough.

This left a rather large vacuum. House Republicans are actually trying to put together some sort of agenda (with the help of Newt Gingrich), but they haven't released anything to the public yet. So a Republican agenda just does not currently exist. Senator Rick Scott -- who is currently heading the GOP group in charge of seeing more Republicans elected to the Senate -- stepped into this void yesterday. He released an 11-point plan that would be his agenda, going forward. He took pains to make clear that this wasn't the official National Republican Senatorial Committee's position, just his own personal stance. But who cares? He's the first to do so, he's in leadership, and the party doesn't have anything else to point to which states what they'd do next year if they gained control. So Scott's proposal really should be seen as fair game.

There are plenty of completely unworkable and insane ideas in his 11 points. One, for instance, would require every single federal law to be reauthorized every five years or else it would turn into a pumpkin and wouldn't be a law any more. Picture the completely-unnecessary crises we regularly experience over raising the debt ceiling, except on every single federal law there is, and then imagine Congress trying to handle that load. As I said: completely unworkable and insane.

But while Scott's proposal contains plenty of juicy targets, there is none juicer than his throwback to the Republican concept that America is full of "takers and makers" (they used to openly use these terms, although not so much anymore), and that the rich people were paying all the taxes and the "takers" on the bottom were just mooching off their benevolence -- and that to fix this, poor people really needed to start paying more taxes. Rich people could then pay less taxes, and everything would be peachy-keen. Here is how Scott's proposal reads: "All Americans should pay some income tax to have skin in the game, even if a small amount. Currently over half of Americans pay no income tax."

There's no getting around the implications. Scott -- and by extension, the entire Republican Party -- now wants to raise taxes on the poorest half of Americans. This runs so counter to what Republicans have stood for since Ronald Reagan's time that it is just as astonishing as seeing some in the GOP openly back a Russian leader in the middle of a military conflict (which just happened, too).

Here is how White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki put it: "Senate Republicans just released an economic plan that doesn't include a single proposal to lower prices for the middle class. Instead he wants to raise taxes on half of Americans -- including on seniors and working families."

Scott has been desperately trying to somehow redefine what his proposal would be. He insisted that he'd somehow exempt retirees and those who weren't "able-bodied," but that's not what his plan says. His plan clearly states: "All Americans," plain as day.

Mitt Romney, you may recall, tried a version of this in his 2012 campaign for the presidency. He complained about the "47 percent" of Americans who don't pay income taxes (saying they "should take personal responsibility and care for their lives"). Makers and takers, in other words. This didn't exactly work out well for Romney.

Scott has been caught between trying to redefine what he said and actually defending the concept. It's rather amusing to see him twist in the wind, in fact. But so far he hasn't disavowed the main concept: make poor people pay more taxes. Here is one of his spokesmen trying this reasoning out:

Curt Anderson, a Republican consultant who works with Scott and the NRSC, defended the plan Tuesday, saying "it's not a typo -- it's a concept" when asked whether the income tax point was included in error.

"I don't see why that's so racy, if they have to pay $10 in taxes a year," Anderson said of the idea of requiring low-income workers -- but not retirees -- to be on the hook for some amount of income taxes, even a nominal payment.

"When you get to the point when there's more people in the cart than pulling the cart in the country, there's a problem," Anderson said.

He's not the only one. Here's what Frank Luntz thinks, as well as Scott's response to the blowback:

Frank Luntz, a former GOP pollster, said in an email that he believes the proposal would be popular.

"Scott is clearly appealing to the center of the political and social spectrum," Luntz said. "Most Americans do believe everyone should pay at least some taxes, but no one wants to pay more than their fair share."

In a statement, Scott said: "What my plan tackles is the willing-to-work shortage caused by Joe Biden and the Democrats who decided to pay people more not to work. It talks about able-bodied people who are taking a paycheck rather than working, not those who already pay into the system. We need to get Americans back to work. Making sure every American has skin in the game is a way to do it and the American people agree."

There you have it: Republicans think the problem with the tax system is that poor people don't pay any. That's what "skin in the game" means, plain and simple. And they both think this would be popular with the American people, even though they are talking about raising taxes on over half of them.

It's hard to even come up with a textbook example of being further out of touch than that, really. Which is why Democrats should smear every Republican for either openly or secretly supporting their party's ideological stance that taxes need to be raised on half of the American public -- the poorer half. All Republicans need to be boxed in by this.

Here's how Democrats should put it:

"For decades, Republicans have tried to convince the public that they are for lowering taxes. This isn't true though -- what they are really for is lowering taxes on the super-rich while raising taxes on families like yours. Don't believe me? Senate Republicans are saying they're going to raise taxes on hardworking Americans at the bottom of the income ladder -- those making the smallest wages. Those who can afford it the least will be made to pay, because they think that's what 'pay your fair share' means. They think you are 'takers' instead of 'makers' -- the hardest-working Americans are somehow just big moochers. So now want to raise taxes on over half of all Americans. Half! People working three jobs just to make ends meet. Retirees on a fixed income. Those are the people Republicans think should pay more, not the billionaires and giant corporations. And don't be fooled -- some Republicans are swearing up and down that they don't support this, but I bet if they do take back Congress, that is exactly what they'll try -- raising your taxes. That whole bit about them always being for lower taxes is just a bald-faced lie. Do you really want to vote for that?"

Thankfully, some Democrats have already realized what a gift horse this truly is. As I mentioned, there are plenty of other batpoop-crazy ideas in the Scott proposal, but this one is just the easiest target, so it deserves to be first:

Indeed, Democrats were quick to seize on Scott's plan. The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee announced Wednesday morning that it is launching a five-figure radio ad campaign focused on highlighting tax hikes for millions of Americans. Congressional Democrats argued Scott's comments reflect the GOP's belief that much of the U.S. do not work hard enough.

"Trump's populist rhetoric temporarily obscured what is central to Republican orthodoxy: that half of Americans are takers and moochers," said Rep. Brendan Boyle (D-Pa.), a member of the House Ways and Means Committee.

I sincerely hope more and more Democrats jump on this bandwagon. Now is not the time for nuance. Now is not the time to split hairs. Now is the time for painting the entire GOP with a very ugly and unpopular brush. Because for all intents and purposes, they are now the party of raising taxes on over half of all Americans. So don't be shy -- say so!

-- Chris Weigant

 

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112 Comments on “Republicans Want To Raise Taxes On Half Of America!”

  1. [1] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) put out the platform of ideas, no use in crying about it now; Republicans own this.

    "All Americans should pay some income tax to have skin in the game, even if a small amount. Currently over half of Americans pay no income tax."

    All Americans could have more "skin in the game" if we just shave our heads bald versus this ridiculous GOP platform that is dumber than a barrel of hair.

    After proposing tax increases on Americans that would number in the tens of millions, Republicans also proposed that "funding for the IRS, as well as its workforce, would be cut by 50%."

    So, to recap: The GOP is going to add millions and millions of Americans to the tax rolls and then cut the workforce that would enforce collection of those taxes by half. Like I said: Dumber than a barrel of hair. :)

  2. [2] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW

    That whole bit about them always being for lower taxes is just a bald-faced lie. Do you really want to vote for that?

    Bald-faced, bald-headed... and dumber than a barrel of hair. :)

  3. [3] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW

    Now is not the time to split hairs.

    Heh. :)

  4. [4] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    I haven't even peeked at today's column but it could well be titled,

    Republicans in Disarray... Why the Midterms aren't a Republican Lock, Vol.57 amirite?

  5. [5] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy

    I peeked, and urcorrect! :)

  6. [6] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Now that I've read today's column, my comment stands. If only the Democrats would...

    (thinking)

    Gawd, how pathetic it is that our choice is between the Repugs, shamelessly only in it for the rich and the Christofacists, and the Dims, eternally incapable of campaigning and governing like Democrats.

  7. [7] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW

    As I mentioned, there are plenty of other batpoop-crazy ideas in the Scott proposal, but this one is just the easiest target...

    Are you sure about that? I mean: "All federal legislation sunsets in 5 years. If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again."

    Imagine the kind of "batpoop" crazy it would take to be the junior Senator from the State of Florida proposing that Social Security and Medicare should lapse if they aren't reauthorized by Congress every five years. That is some ignorant level batshit crazy right there... and dumber than a barrel of hair. :)

  8. [8] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    CW,

    I think that saying that the GOP wants to raise the taxes for “the poorest Americans” (AKA the “lower class”) might not be the best move because their base do not believe that they are part of that group.

    The “lower class” is made up entirely of Blacks, Latinos, and the most hated member of every White family for them to look down on. When you say that something benefits the “poorest Americans”, FoxNews viewers hear “gubn’t handout” for everyone but them!

    The “middle class” is made up of anyone who watches FoxNews. All Whites believe that they are automatically part of the “middle class”…because the GOP has convinced them that that is their birthright!

    The “Upper Class” is made up of the 1%ers, but also of former middle class folks that just worked hard enough and long enough for them to be invited to join a country club… making them part of the Upper Class!

    All middle class Americans are waiting for that one big break to come their way for all of their hard work and determination to make them members of the Upper Class. They are always so close to achieving that goal, and if they do not reach it, you can bet it was because of some government program to help minorities that kept them down! They never seem to notice that they know no one that they socialize with who has become “Upper Class”. But it is that belief that they are SO CLOSE to achieving it that keeps them from raising taxes on the Upper Class — that would only hurt them in the long run!

    They also refuse to accept that the lower class family member they hate who won $15 million from the Lottery is now part of the “Upper Class”. White trash is always White trash! You have to EARN being part of the Upper Class…luck plays no role in it!

  9. [9] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    It certainly dumber than a barrel of hair except that Repug voters have been tricked into thinking,

    The rich got rich by working hard and frankly, because they're simply better than the rest of us. I'm just a winning Lotto ticket away from being rich and I won't want to pay high taxes when I surely get there.

    When in doubt always evaluate Repug insanity in light of the alternative universe that they've spun. It's the only way to make sense of it.

  10. [10] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [8]

    I composed my reply before your's posted. Way to flesh out what I was also thinking!

  11. [11] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    8

    And Russ comes along, nails the whole thing like a bag of hammers and wins the grand prize. Not bad considering Russ probably didn't even know it was a contest.

    What is the grand prize, you ask? Russ wins a musical number performed in his honor:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJag19WoAe0

  12. [12] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    11

    Kick, so when I win could my Grand Prize be that a certain somebody goes the extra inch and posts song titles correctly?

  13. [13] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    12

    Okay, in my defense, I did contemplate going "the extra inch" and posting it "correctly," but being that it was a surprise contest, I naturally did not want to divulge what was awaiting our winner because I wanted it to be a surprise prize.

    I will now award second prize, which won't be a surprise at all since the whiner -- I mean winner -- insists on political correctness. ;)

    For Whom The Bell Tolls

  14. [14] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Vote Republican, we'll raise your taxes. Wow.

  15. [15] 
    Mezzomamma wrote:

    And of course that ignores the fact that in most of the US everyone, no matter how poor, pays sales tax. OK that's state and local, but it's still tax. So yes, the stress needs to be 'Republicans want people like you to pay more taxes.'

  16. [16] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Is there someone here who insists on political correctness? For real?

    I mean, Joshua didn't like my Pogrom joke back in the day, but once I did research I could see his point.

    So I really wouldn't regard him as anything more than borderline "PC-Curious."

  17. [17] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [15]

    And the top 9th of Americans have exempted every penny over what puts them in the top 11% from Social Security aka Payroll taxes.

    Which is why Warren Buffet pays a lower tax rate than his Secretary yada yada.

  18. [18] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    (thinking)

    Funny thing, but isn't did research kind of a way to say, what, did engage? Anti-trollery?

    Asking for a friend.

  19. [19] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    And us non-elites surely pay a higher percentage of our income in property taxes than do the rich bastards.

    Assuming that one is not part of the full third of Muricans who don't own property.

  20. [20] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Don't even get me going on taxes! said the mild mannered guy who's professional nickname happens to be Supreme TaxDoctor.

  21. [21] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Took all the tax courses at the toughest Business School in the Inland Empire...studied under Satan's CPA...and like any good BernieBro I've availed folks in my social economic stratum of the same top drawer tax service that the rich guys get. Tax avoidance is the National Pastime, not Baseball.

  22. [22] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Wow. Radio silence, eh?

  23. [23] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    (checking my breath)

    Well, at least it's not that.

  24. [24] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    It’s funny, when I started writing my post, there were zero posts to this article. My post was number eight and took me almost two hours to complete (I did make us breakfast during this time — which can excuse like 15 minutes, at best).

    Thank you, Kick, for the prize. I am horrible at song titles, so I’ll go with what is listed as the Beatles’ name for it: Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (remastered 2009)? I would assume that is not the correct answer or you would not have asked if we knew it.

  25. [25] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [24]

    I feel ya. I'm doing this on a smart phone and I do try to cut out the extra words and that takes time. I finally post it and...

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    As I am wont to do, some old business..

    I see that cad and vick are throwing around gay homophobic slurs around Weigantia™ again... Sad to see, but they are who they are...

    I do have to give some credit to cad.. I honestly didn't think he would show his face after being so vocal about how Russia would NOT invade..

    So much for cad's claim of military service, eh?? :D

    As for vick.. I knew she doesn't have the pics of me that she claims to have.. So caught vick in ANOTHER LIE!!

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    But just think about that people.. I kick vick's ass all over Weigantia™ and her response is to scour the Internet looking for pics of me...

    What kind of person DOES that???

    What kind of sad pathetic insecure little person goes out into the 'Net to find pics of a person SOLELY because they get their ass intellectually kicked in a political forum??

    Answer: A pathetic, sad and insecure person named vick...

    So, to recap... vick is a scumbag stalker who can't handle getting her ass kicked in Weigantia™ so she scours the Internet looking for pics of me.. Damn sad and pathetic is what that is..

    cad totally blew the call about Russia invading Ukraine...

    And on we go!! :D

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    Putin will extract what he can from the newly unified West and thence stand down. It's not 2014 anymore and nowadays ivading Ukraine has too little upside versus too much downside.
    -cad [ Friday, February 18th, 2022 at 17:51 ]

    So, cad... How can someone who CLAIMS to be a US Veteran... Who CLAIMS to have served in the US Military..

    Be so totally and completely and utterly WRONG about military matters??

    I, on the other hand, have served in both the US Air Force and the US Army during Desert Storm... And I called it dead to rights about Putin's invasion of Ukraine...

    This is what happens when you have a REAL military veteran (me) and a pretend military veteran (you) who only knows about military matters from playing Call Of Duty...

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    cad,

    ? Full disclosure, I am of 100% Ukrainian ancestry and these views may be biased regarding the old country as my grandparents called Ukraine.

    Yea... SURE you are, cad.. :^/

    Just like you served in the US Military, eh??

    You have been PROVEN to be a liar, cad.... No one believes ANYTHING you say...

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    I haven't even peeked at today's column but it could well be titled,

    Republicans in Disarray... Why the Midterms aren't a Republican Lock, Vol.57 amirite?

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Doubling down on stoopid, eh cad???

    You totally blew the Russia Invasion call and NOW yer doubling down on stoopid and claiming that the Democrats are going to be fine in the coming mid-terms..

    Ahhh well, yer going to continue to make a fine chew toy, eh cad?? :D

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the Trump/America haters lose another battle!! :D

    Top prosecutors in Manhattan DA case against Trump resign

    The top prosecutors in charge of the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into former President Trump and his business dealings resigned Wednesday, bringing into question the future of the probe.

    Mark Pomerantz and Carey Dunne, who had been leading the investigation under former District Attorney Cyrus Vance, submitted their resignations Wednesday, sources familiar told Fox News.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-prosecutors-in-manhattan-da-case-against-trump-resign

    These Democrat morons are finding out what every patriotic American with more than 2 brain cells to rub together already knew...

    The cases against President Trump are nothing but witch hunts..

    And ya'all are forced to concede once again..

    President Trump is COMPLETELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY and 1000% INNOCENT of all accusations against him..

    THIS IS FACT... :D

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, Liz...

    We tried it your way and it actually went pretty good for a while there..

    We had a lot of fun and actually got to have a serious discussion for a bit there..

    And then vick showed up and had to spoil it all..

    She CLAIMS to have pics of me... She throws around gay homophobic slurs...

    What do you think about that, Liz...

    What do you think about a person who loses debate after debate after debate in a political forum and then said luser goes out and scours the Internet looking for pics of the guy who so utterly demolished her intellectually..

    What does that tell you about vick, Liz???

    Do you see why it's simply IMPOSSIBLE to have rational serious discussions when people like vick are present??

    How can people here in Weigantia™ have serious discussions when they know that if they win the debate, the sore luser is going to scour the 'Net looking for information to use against the winner??

    When you have an answer to that question, you'll have an answer to how we can get Weigantia™ back to it's former glory...

  32. [32] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [25]

    I officially have mud on my face over my prediction that Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine.

  33. [33] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Wishful thinking, I suppose.

    But this is going to cost Putin, as in, Today's words are Proxy War, boys and girls!

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    cad

    I officially have mud on my face over my prediction that Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine.

    Yes you do.. And thank you for acknowledging my comment that points this out..

    That's a very adult and mature thing for you to do.. Kudos..

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    But this is going to cost Putin, as in, Today's words are Proxy War, boys and girls!

    It's not going to cost Putin as much as you think, cad..

    For their to be a proxy war, Biden has to actually have the balls to buck his Party and take the fight to Putin..

    As we saw in Afghanistan, Biden is a mental midget when it comes to military matters..

    Putin will eat Biden's lunch.. Pure and simple...

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    Wishful thinking, I suppose.

    Yes it was..

    Just like your DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO DO FINE IN THE MID-TERMS claim..

    More wishful thinking...

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    But it *IS* funny to see ya'all Democrats with egg all over your faces??

    Remember how ya'all and Odumbo and all the Democrats mocked Romney incessantly when he stated that Russia was the US's number 1 political foe???

    Remember how ya'all mocked and ridiculed Romney??

    And lo and behold.. Romney looks very prescient and Democrats look like ignorant morons.. :D

    Ya'all just GOTS to love that, right??? :D

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    As to the commentary...

    Ya'all tried this same sort of BS political spin when Democrats claimed that it was actually the GOP that wanted to defund the police...

    Even Democrat water carrier WaPoop gave that bogus claim a slew of Pinocchios.

    Ya'all REALLY need to stick with the FACTS..

    And the FACTS are, Democrats are getting nuclear uber-shellacked in Nov...

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    The ‘adults in the room’ have failed again

    Biden’s empty threats against Russia have needlessly inflamed tensions.

    The ‘adults are back in the room’, we were told when Joe Biden assumed the US presidency. The turbulence of the Trump years was behind us, and a return to normalcy – both domestic and global – was all but guaranteed.

    Things feel rather different now. With Vladimir Putin’s decision to roll tanks into Ukraine, we are on the cusp of major destabilisation in world affairs. And while Putin alone is responsible for this unacceptable incursion on Ukrainian sovereignty, the Biden administration – the smart set, the sensibles, the adults, supposedly – has managed to bring about the worst of all possible worlds. It has invited Russian aggression, more or less forcing Putin’s hand, while hindering any prospect of a diplomatic climbdown.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/02/22/the-adults-in-the-room-have-failed-again/

    So, THIS is the Democrats' idea of what being an "adult" is all about... :^/

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    ‘Putin knows that when I am president of the United States his days of tyranny… are over’, Biden warned in 2019. A year later, he returned to the theme: ‘Vladimir Putin doesn’t want me to be president.’ The domestic political imperative to tar Biden’s opponent, Donald Trump, as a stooge of Putin always came ahead of the more serious foreign-policy concern of actually having to deal with Putin. Earlier today, in his first speech since the Russian invasion, Biden insisted that the diplomatic door is still open. But this rings hollow.

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Biden has totally and royally scroo'ed da pooch as an effective leader...

    Putin would NEVER have tried this crap under President Trump...

    The blood of ALL of Ukraine is on the hands of Biden voters everywhere...

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    Do ya'all know why I hold the moral, ethical and legal high-ground here in Weigantia???

    "If you're going to continue to post bullshit about me, I will be happy to link to your fat-faced mugshot if you'd like. "
    -vick

    "If you think it means cock holster, you are correct. :)"
    -vick

    Because the rest of ya'all condone and give assent with your silence to a homophobic internet stalker who throws around gay slurs..

    In any CIVILIZED forum, throwing around gay slurs and cyberstalking would get the offending and offensive user banned...

    But Weigantia™ is like the Wild West ya'all have a Freedom Fighter to fight the forces of homophobic stalkers... :D

    Ya'all are so lucky to have me here.. :D

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    On the other hand...

    How to file cyberstalking complaint...

    First, report the incident to your local police department or sheriff's office. Second, visit the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's Computer Crime Center. Review “Common Complaints” and follow the instructions that fit your situation. Finally, file a complaint with the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center.

    Hmmmmm That's something to consider...

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    Once again, vick tries extortion in an attempt to silence me..

    And once again, I call her bluff...

    And, once again, she is proven to be a complete and utter liar.... :D

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    But getting back to Biden's total incompetence in dealing with Russia and Putin..

    Russia did not need Joe Biden’s revealing gaffe – when he said last month that a ‘minor incursion’ by Russia would be met with a different punishment to a full-blown invasion – to foresee that the Western response would be neither unified nor decisive. In recent months, Western powers have taken different approaches to diplomacy, have different attitudes to sanctions and military aid, and clearly have divergent interests in their relations with Russia. When Biden last month announced that there was ‘total unanimity with all the European leaders’ on the crisis, everyone could see how hollow and performative this was. Now that Putin’s incursion / invasion / offensive has actually happened, there is not even agreement among Western leaders as to whether it constitutes an invasion at all.

    The idea that the West is united against Russia and Putin is a completely BS statement..

    Biden is completely out of his depth here..

    Just like he was in Afghanistan...

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    What’s more, the capacity of sanctions to do harm to Russia has diminished slightly in recent years, as Russia has oriented itself towards China and away from the West. The new Sino-Russian alliance, announced at the Beijing Olympics, is an uncomfortable one. These are not two like-minded nations drawn together through mutual admiration – rather, they are reacting and responding to Western attempts to turn them into pariah states.

    Fundamentally, there has been a strange undercurrent of unseriousness to much of the West’s dealings. Not only have the US and the West made threats they cannot back up – they have also displayed a real lack of grip or even basic knowledge of the situation at hand. As well as Biden’s ‘minor incursion’ gaffe, we had Kamala Harris wrongly claiming there hadn’t been a war in Europe for 70 years. (See also the UK’s Liz Truss declaring that Russia shouldn’t have sovereignty over parts of Russia.) We’re not exactly sending our best.

    The Ukraine crisis could have been resolved peacefully with compromise and diplomacy. But the adults in the room have failed us once again.

    Biden's complete and utter failure will be upper most in voters' minds when they go to the polls in November...

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:
  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Putin’s Predictabilities

    It is easy to predict what the Russian president will do in any given situation. Biden is making it easier for Putin to act with aggression.

    For all his caginess, dissimulation, and opportunism, Vladimir Putin is more or less predictable.

    Putin’s aims? The Russian president’s two-decade dilemma has been how to reclaim the prestige and power of the former Soviet Union—but with only 75 percent of his country’s former territory and 140 million fewer people.

    When does he strike?

    First, Putin moves on neighboring former Soviet republics when the world price of oil is high, and his coffers are full. So he went into Georgia in 2008 and into Eastern Ukraine and Crimea in 2014 when he thought he had the financial wherewithal and public support to do so.

    But when the world is awash in oil, prices dip, and the United States reigns as the largest gas and oil producer, he hesitates. So he remained static between 2017 and 2020.
    https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/23/putins-predictabilities/

    In other words, when President Trump was in command, Putin KNEW that he couldn't get away with any of his Soviet expansion ideas....

    When the Democrats cheated and frauded their way to install Biden in the Oval Office, Putin knew he could act with impunity and not have to worry about ANY semblance of serious repercussions..

    And here we are...

    Democrats simply don't know how to lead...

    It's THAT easy to understand...

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    Second, when the United States increases the defense budget and deters its enemies, Putin also pauses. In contrast, when America “resets” or appeases, he is emboldened.

    In 2008, the United States was battered by sky-high oil prices and bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then between2009 and 2016, President Obama went on an apology tour, cut defense spending, boasted of a new “Russian reset,” contextualized Iranian and North Korean aggression, and begged Putin to behave until Obama was reelected in 2012—in exchange for dismantling U.S. missile defense programs in Eastern Europe. Obama then invited Russia into the Middle East after a 40-year absence.

    As a result, during all those years Putin formally invaded Georgia, Eastern Ukraine, and Crimea. But between 2017 and 2020, Putin was quieter.

    Putin knows that Democrat governance ALWAYS weakens the United States...

    Look for Russia (AND China) to get as much as they can while the gettin's good...

    Both Russia AND China know that, once President Trump is back in office their free ride, courtesy of the Democrat Party, is over...

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    In 2018, the Trump Administration killed attacking Russian mercenaries in Syria. It got out of an unfavorable missile deal with Russia in 2019. It sold offensive weapons to Ukraine. It maintained sanctions on Russian oligarchs. And it greatly increased defense spending.

    No surprise that Putin then did not threaten his neighbors with military mobilizations on their borders.

    President Trump knew how to deal with Putin..

    Strength...

    PEACE, thru superior firepower...

    By contrast, Democrats are limp-wristed pansies who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag...

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    Third, when NATO is in disarray, Putin also turns aggressive.

    The United States and NATO began bickering over Iraq and Afghanistan between 2006 and 2008. By 2009-2010, the Obama Administration was complaining that NATO members were “free riders” for not meeting their promised 2 percent annual budget investments in military readiness.

    Germany and Turkey became more belligerent and more anti-American.

    In contrast, by 2020, an unpopular and tough-talking Trump had nevertheless jawboned a petulant alliance into investing an aggregate $100 billion more in defense. More countries met their promised defense spending goals.

    Trump had sanctioned the Putin-Merkel Nord Stream 2 pipeline project that would bind Germany to fickle Russian energy deliveries.

    Again, Putin stayed mostly still.

    Putin knows not to get froggy when a REAL leader like President Trump is in command..

    It's only when feckless and indecisive and downright incompetent leaders like Joe Biden are in charge, Putin knows he can steal the store and no one will raise a finger to stop him...

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    Fourth, when a U.S. president talks trash and yet proves anemic, Putin loses his cool at such empty bombast and turns aggressive.

    Obama repeatedly ridiculed Putin with putdowns of the Russian country and people: “Their economy doesn’t produce anything that anybody wants to buy, except oil and gas and arms. They don’t innovate.”

    Yet Obama was afraid even to sell defensive weapons to Ukraine to combat Russian aggression and had implored Putin to give him “space.”

    Similarly, Joe Biden constantly attacks Putin in personal terms, labeling him a “bully” and “killer.” Yet when Putin brazenly allowed Russian-affiliated hackers to attack U.S. companies and agencies, Biden urged Putin to please ask the hackers at least to make 16 critical American “entities” off-limits.

    When Biden slashed U.S. oil and gas production, prices skyrocketed. Biden then begged the “killer” to please pump more of his “dirty” fuel to help American commuters.

    Democrats are all empty talk and empty suits and empty chairs...

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    In contrast, Trump expressed guarded willingness to work with Putin, especially in realist terms of triangulating to check Chinese aggression.

    But such diplomatic and measured talk was juxtaposed with tough deterrence. Putin never knew quite what Trump might do in any given crisis, other than that it would be unpredictable, in U.S. interests, and possibly deadly.

    Again, the result was that Putin did not mobilize for invasion between 2017 and 2020 as he is doing now—and did prior to 2017.

    President Trump extended Putin the courtesy to work together to counter China...

    But President Trump also backed that up with a firm determination to keep Russia in check...

    And it worked..

    Under President Trump, Putin was muted and he stood down, cowed by President Trump's leadership...

    Democrats simply are not effective leaders.. They prove this every day, 365 days a year...

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    What do we learn about Putin’s opportunistic foreign policy?

    Pumping lots of oil and lowering the world price of it makes Putin worry about insolvency rather than invasion and ensure the West is less dependent on him.

    When the United States appeases Putin and is wracked by internal dissension and social turmoil, Putin pounces.

    Prod NATO to bolster their defenses and Germany to stop enriching Putin—and then Russia is circumspect rather than recklessly aggressive.

    Speaking softly while carrying a club rather than loudly with a twig better persuades Putin not to try something dangerous.

    To the degree America embraces all four of the strategies above, Putin will likely not attack anyone.

    If we at least embrace one or two of the above protocols, he may still stay put.

    But if we ignore all of these time-proven antidotes, then we can almost guarantee that Putin will either mobilize against or actually invade a former Soviet republic.

    Biden has managed to violate all four principles. Is it then any surprise that a predictably opportunistic dictator has massed hundreds of thousands of troops on Ukraine’s borders?

    Under President Trump, America achieved TRUE oil independence and, in some cases, became the largest EXPORTER of oil on the planet..

    Putin lost ALL leverage on the world stage.. President Trump effectively neutered Putin as a threat...

    Of course, once Democrat fraud and cheating put Biden in the White House, the first thing Biden did was destroy America's position of oil independence..

    Which, in turn, handed Putin leverage to attack his neighbors with impunity...

    Biden further assisted Putin by allying with Putin on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline...

    Get that?? The American Keystone pipeline would be bad for the climate, so Biden killed it.. But PUTIN'S pipeline is perfectly acceptable for the climate so Biden jumped on Putin's bandwagon..

    The FACTS clearly prove beyond ANY doubt..

    Joe Biden is Putin's BIGGEST asset here in the US... With the Democrat Party a close second...

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    Whew!! :D I'll take a break and give ya'all time to catch up... :D

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK, Nap time's over.. :D

    Democrats Deserve to Lose the Midterm Elections

    A political fix for November won’t repair the damage progressives have done to the U.S.

    Despite repeated cries of threats to "our democracy," a political fix for November won’t repair the damage progressives have done to the U.S.

    No one has more reason to be shocked by the results of last week’s San Francisco recall election than the three school-board members whom voters threw over the side. The vote totals to kick them off the progressive island were 72%, 75% and 79%.

    Commentaries by Democrats are now emerging to argue the party will be wiped out in November’s midterm elections unless its candidates distance themselves from the progressives. As a long-ago boss of mine might have said as he prowled the loading dock: These Democrats are a day late and a dollar short.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-deserve-to-lose-midterms-2022-cancel-culture-leftists-progressives-san-francisco-recall-election-11645654233?st=7vnbmfyvn9dfs7g&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    And to think that there are ACTUALLY people here in Weigantia™ who ACTUALLY believe that Democrats will be OK in November! :D

    It's blatant mind-boggling ignorance....

  56. [56] 
    Michale wrote:

    History may thank former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey for pulling the plug on the Trump Twitter account. With Mr. Trump’s post-midnight tweets no longer blotting out the U.S. political sun, Democrats have to stand before voters with their own policies and behavior. The recall vote in San Francisco was a portent, summed up in this remark to the Washington Post by a recall organizer:

    “I’ve always thought of myself as a progressive—until now, recently, when I’m looking at this situation,” said Siva Raj. “I’m shocked—like, how can progressives be for something like this? This is not me. These are not the values that I buy anymore.”

    Democratic self-reflection after the startling schools defeat in San Francisco and Glenn Youngkin’s gubernatorial win in Virginia may reflect the natural ebb and flow of American politics. But it isn’t enough.

    The progressive problem is deeper than the Democratic Party’s loss of independents. The left achieved a fundamental ideological transformation that has gone unanswered by liberals for years, starting in the universities. Liberal academics who spoke out were censured by administrators and shunned by colleagues.

    Then when novel ideas about identity, race and gender—now being criticized as a liability because they alienate non-base voters—marched toward the country’s cultural and corporate institutions, liberals held the doors open. Coercion had become king.

    A midcourse November correction won’t change that. Only a resounding midterm defeat will force a necessary revision of these destructive ideas. The Democrats deserve to lose. They’ve earned it.

    The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging support.. People are walking away from the Party by the tens of millions...

    Die hard Democrats voted for Republican Glenn Youngkin in Virginia...

    And there are Weigantians™ here who ACTUALLY BELIEVE that Democrats will do OK in November!???

    What drugs are THEY on???

  57. [57] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    16

    Is there someone here who insists on political correctness? For real?

    The snowflake right-wing Trump holster troll who needs a safe space.

    I mean, Joshua didn't like my Pogrom joke back in the day, but once I did research I could see his point.

    Well, I was teasing you and sure wasn't thinking about that... just so you know.

    So I really wouldn't regard him as anything more than borderline "PC-Curious."

    Epicurious. ;)

  58. [58] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    On topic. It's definitely true, as Dems perpetually say, that "Tax cuts only benefit the rich."

    A quick visit to the IRS website plainly shows that there is a simple explanation for that cruel fact. The top 50% of American earners pay 97% of all the taxes the IRS collects, and the bottom half of American earners pays the other 3%.

    Even folks with the level of economic comprehension common to Dems/Libs can understand that if you only tax high earners to begin with, there simply ain't no way for low earners to benefit from a tax cut, because they never paid any tax to begin with.

  59. [59] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [57]

    Yeah, thought you were referring to poon (as opposed to Fredo.)

    Re Joshua, that's okay. I'm a Loud and Proud Libtard, so isn't public contrition a good thing?

  60. [60] 
    Kick wrote:

    Mezzomamma
    15

    And of course that ignores the fact that in most of the US everyone, no matter how poor, pays sales tax.

    This is exactly on point. The entire issue reminds me of the whole Mitt Romney 47% percent bullshit. It's bullshit because the vast majority have "skin in the game" via direct payment of FICA payroll taxes... Medicare and Social Security, and who doesn't indirectly pay an excise tax at the gas pump? If you're purchasing gasoline, it's in there.

    So yes, the stress needs to be 'Republicans want people like you to pay more taxes.'

    The entire issue is an appeal to the Fox Newsian ever-present brand of right-wing bigotry. The inconvenient fact that flies in the face of the Fox fallacy is that the vast majority of poor people are white.

  61. [61] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    17

    Exactly! :)

  62. [62] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [58]

    The top 50% of American earners pay 97% of all the taxes the IRS collects, and the bottom half of American earners pays the other 3%.

    C'mon, Stuck, aren't you aware (as opposed to knowing but feigning ignorance) that sure, it looks like we're a nation of half makers and half takers but only if you count FEDERAL taxes.

    Here in the real world everyone pays payroll taxes 7.65% (except on monies over $142,800) and most earners pay some combination of state income, state disability taxes and local property taxes. Sales taxes effect the bottom half way more than the rich. And the rich who make most of their money via investments pay 0-20% Federal taxes, maximum.

    This deceptive GQP talking point is designed to trick you into supporting yet another tax cut for those who should be paying more, not less.

  63. [63] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    24

    Thank you, Kick, for the prize.

    Well, you deserved it because you nailed the entire topic down with a bag of hammers... so you got Maxwell's Silver Hammer. :)

  64. [64] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [65]

    Well. Nobody asked me but that was a nifty talking point, indeed. I'm going to use it myself, imitation equals flattery yada yada.

  65. [65] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    25

    I feel ya. I'm doing this on a smart phone and I do try to cut out the extra words and that takes time. I finally post it and...

    Wow. That is a lot of work.

    As an aside... I'm so sorry about your Ukraine. There's a lot more I wish I could say, but just know that we are thinking about you. Today feels very 20th century... circa late '30s.

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  66. [66] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    The inconvenient fact that flies in the face of the Fox fallacy is that the vast majority of poor people are white.

    IT SEEMS that the old bargain that the rich have offered po' white trash is still working to this day,

    You can boss the niggers,
    And we'll boss the money!

    And it therefore strikes me that at heart racism has an economic motivation -- it's a trick that distracts poor whites from the lousy deal they're getting.

  67. [67] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    66

    When you admit
    it's a lie that you're telling
    You admit
    it's just shit
    you're not smelling
    And admit
    it's just shit
    that you're selling.

    Considering the source -- the only person on the board with something he's trying desperately to sell: Isn't this just precious!

    So, to recap: It appears our salesman knows exactly what he's offering. Bless his heart! :)

  68. [68] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [68]

    So does that mean you're cool with me, er, recycling your artwork?

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  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    IT SEEMS that the old bargain that the rich have offered po' white trash is still working to this day,

    You can boss the ni**ers,
    And we'll boss the money!

    And it therefore strikes me that at heart racism has an economic motivation -- it's a trick that distracts poor whites from the lousy deal they're getting.

    WOW....

    I mean, the homophobic gay slurs were bad enough...

    But such a blatantly racist comment!!???

    That's just beyond the pale..

    So, Weigantia™ has become a place where cyberstalking is permissible..

    Extortion to silence commenters is permissible...

    And gay and racist slurs are permissible..

    Liz... You were worried about the NUMBER of my comments!!????

    And yet, you turn a blind eye to THIS ^^^^^

    What's happened to you???

  70. [70] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [70]

    That's what I don't get. It's sooo easy to kick Fredo around the block, yet from time to time his political humor demonstrates genuine intelligence. So, as this is my very first online community experience can you tell me do trolls get dumber when they troll? Because they have to dumb down to swallow their own bullshit?

  71. [71] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    ...er, swallow their own trollshit?

  72. [72] 
    Michale wrote:

    That's what I don't get. It's sooo easy to kick Fredo around the block, yet from time to time his political humor demonstrates genuine intelligence. So, as this is my very first online community experience can you tell me do trolls get dumber when they troll? Because they have to dumb down to swallow their own bullshit?

    Says the guy who spews racist slurs on this forum..

    Even if Don was a troll, which has NOT been established by ANY facts at all...

    Morally and ethically, he is so far above a racist like yourself....

    I am aghast that you are even allowed to be on here and spew your racist garbage...

  73. [73] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    69

    The only people who use that derogatory word where I come from are the people who reclaimed it. Enough said.

    LBJ understood the politics of bigotry more than most because he grew up in the South, and I think he summed it all up nicely:

    If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

    ~ President Lyndon Baines Johnson

    *
    He definitely had an inside view of racism and the role the rich played in promulgating it, and they're still doing it to this day when the fact is, the majority of those who couldn't get to the Oklahoma line if a trip around the world cost a dollar have skin color that is white... millions and millions.

  74. [74] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Caddy [64]

    I'm fully aware of the fact that state and local taxes fall disproportionately on the low-incomers, but that's not relevant to the point of the discussion of who pays and who does not and who screams about "tax cuts benefitting the rich"!

    When the Bernie Sanders' and the Fauxcohontas types are ranting against tax cuts and for higher taxes on the rich, they are NEVER screaming about reforming state and local taxes, they are ALWAYS screamin about the very (Federal income) taxes which the IRS collects and publishes statistics for.

  75. [75] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    71

    Of course. I recycled it myself. :)

  76. [76] 
    Kick wrote:

    Did y'all ever notice how well I have trained the "Michale" troll? It dances on cue. :)

  77. [77] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    73

    That's what I don't get. It's sooo easy to kick Fredo around the block, yet from time to time his political humor demonstrates genuine intelligence.

    Yes, he does.

    So, as this is my very first online community experience can you tell me do trolls get dumber when they troll? Because they have to dumb down to swallow their own bullshit?

    Depends on the troll, I suppose. Most of them are definitely repetitive fools who are desperate for attention, which makes them infinitely easily trained to perform on cue because they're too ignorant to realize they're being played for the fools they are. :)

  78. [78] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    74

    Technically you are correct that I am the only person on the board desperately trying to sell something.

    Yes, I am correct. Yes, you are desperate.

    Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    I might agree with that.

    The difference between what I am selling is and what CW is selling is that what I am selling is democracy and not the Big Lie that CW is selling that is by design subverting and undermining democracy.

    I believe you believe that. I find it infinitely interesting that you never tire of disparaging CW, and I find it incredibly ignorant that you would desperately seek to have someone you disagree with to sell the shit you are desperately attempting to sell. Why would you attempt to discredit the man you're attempting to shill your shit? Rhetorical question.

    Should he give in to your demands (not bloody likely), a person whose opinion you have trashed all to hell for years is now your mouthpiece. It makes no sense. :)

  79. [79] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    75

    ...er, swallow their own trollshit?

    Scrollshit. :)

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:

    vick

    Did y'all ever notice how well I have trained the "Michale" troll? It dances on cue. :)

    Says the moron who spews homophobic slurs and supports cad and his racist slurs....

    Who cyberstalks someone SOLELY because he kicks yer ass all over a political forum and then tries to use the fruits of her cyberstalking to try extort that person into silence..

    And yet, you fail again...

    Cuz here I am... STILL posting the facts about your useless cyberstalking and homophobic ass..

    STILL proving with facts what a luser and racist you are...

    The FACTS are clear.. And EVERYONE here knows it... Yer a racist and a homophobic asshole...

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    I always knew you were a racist and a homophobe, vick...

    I just never believed you would actually make it so easy for me to prove to everyone....

    But you always were mentally challenged...

    Now everyone else sees you for the racist and homophobe you are...

  82. [82] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    84

    see comment 77.

    Perhaps you have me confused with the trained troll. :)

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    And now vick's go-to move is to attack my wife and family..

    She is regular as clock-work and so easy to predict...

    Racists and homophobes like vick are so predictable...

    Hay vick.. I am still posting facts about you.. What ya gonna do about it!!???

    BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  84. [84] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [87]

    That's a perfect example right there. Fredo doesn't get his self contradiction. Doesn't realize he's scoring an own goal.

  85. [85] 
    C. R. Stucki wrote:

    Don H [82]

    Id react negatively. I'm big on state's rights.

  86. [86] 
    Michale wrote:

    CRS,

    Id react negatively. I'm big on state's rights.

    What's yer take on Democrats and their federalizing of elections where the States have supremacy???

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    cad,

    That's a perfect example right there. Fredo doesn't get his self contradiction. Doesn't realize he's scoring an own goal.

    But everyone here knows for a fact that you are a racist..

    MtnCaddy wrote:

    IT SEEMS that the old bargain that the rich have offered po' white trash is still working to this day,

    You can boss the ni**ers,
    And we'll boss the money!

    And it therefore strikes me that at heart racism has an economic motivation -- it's a trick that distracts poor whites from the lousy deal they're getting.
    -Thursday, February 24th, 2022 at 09:32

    COMPLETELY and UTTERLY inexcusable...

  88. [88] 
    Michale wrote:

    Mtn caddy (93)-
    Not at all any contradiction.

    Just bullshit spin from Kick and you agreeing with Kick how beautiful the Emperor's new clothes look.

    Racists and homophobes of a feather.... Flock together...

  89. [89] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    86

    I for one would not have to repeat my opinion which is not trolling if CW did not keep repeating his propaganda in support of the Big Lie.

    So, in summation: It is your fervent desire that a person you've disparaged all to hell and back over a period of multiple years will act as your voice?

    It makes no sense, and we know that you're capable of making sense.

    You are not playing anyone as a fool, you are just exposing yourself as one.

    I repeat: It dances on cue. You dance on cue near daily. Your cue is a new column, and off you go. Your other dancing on cue (mostly) involves poetry. Do we maybe know someone who has danced their precious little heart out today and even pointed out the little jig?

    Don Dances on Cue

    So, to recap: It dances on cue. :)

  90. [90] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    93

    That's a perfect example right there. Fredo doesn't get his self contradiction. Doesn't realize he's scoring an own goal.

    Ooooh, "own goal." That's a great point. :)

  91. [91] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    94

    As long as CW keeps spewing the Big Lie I will continue to disparage his actions.

    Yes, you will troll the author. This we have already established several years ago.

    As what I am selling is democracy I believe that you believe that democracy is shit as you have labeled what I am selling as shit.

    When you admit
    it's a lie that you're telling
    You admit
    it's just shit
    you're not smelling
    And admit
    it's just shit
    that you're selling.

    ~ Don Harris

    *
    I think the admitted desperate salesman is mightily confused regarding who did the labelling of himself.

    I am asking CW to address One Demand, not shill for it.

    Semantics.

    There is nothing wrong with asking someone to stand up for democracy instead of perpetuating a lie that subverts it no matter what bullshit you come up with to spin it otherwise.

    Translation: "There is nothing wrong with pissing all over the author I am begging to sell my shit. I troll really hard here so that this person whom I have claimed on multiple occasions has zero credibility will be the spokesman for what I am desperately trying to sell."

    That about sums it up. :)

  92. [92] 
    Michale wrote:

    ^^^^ says the bimbo who spews homophobic slurs, supports racist slurs and cyberstalks someone and uses that info to try and extort someone else into silence..

    How did that work out for ya, vick??

    BBBBBWBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

    Like the LAST time you tried to extort me into silence, I told you take your alleged info and shove it up your ass...

    And, as we see again... Yer bluff was called and you were left with nothing...

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  93. [93] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    104

    I have not disparaged CW,

    This blog is archived, you know.

    I am asking CW to address One Demand.

    Trolling him near daily in repetitive fashion. How's that working out for you? Rhetorical question.

    If you're going sum up it needs to be accurate and not what is convenient for you to believe or spin.

    It was dead on accurate.

    Your boast of making others dance on cue at the very least implies that you are not even trying to make any rational points but are just purposely spewing bullshit to be antagonistic.

    Well, that couldn't be more totally incorrect. You should divest yourself of the nonsensical notion that it's one thing or the other since people are quite capable of doing multiple things simultaneously. :)

  94. [94] 
    Michale wrote:

    DH,

    Your boast of making others dance on cue at the very least implies that you are not even trying to make any rational points but are just purposely spewing bullshit to be antagonistic.

    That is exactly what a troll does. Yet you complain so much about others being trolls.

    Which takes us back to comment 66 that you have eloquently proven applies perfectly to you.

    Well said....

  95. [95] 
    Michale wrote:

    Kick (102)-
    Keep doubling down on stupid.

    You just keep proving my point.

    vick has a habit of doing that..

    And now she has out'ed herself as a cyberstalker, a homophobic and racist asshole, it just keeps getting better...

  96. [96] 
    Kick wrote:

    Don Harris
    109

    In point of fact, everything I've said is fair and accurate. You troll the author near daily in the exact fashion I've stated. Your near daily disparagement of him is archived. You desire the man you near daily disparage in trolling fashion to advertise for you. Those are the facts. If he ever does it, you have so thoroughly disparaged him that who would believe a word he said?

    You've "own goaled" yourself.

    You really are completely clueless.

    You cannot insult me. It's not possible. :)

  97. [97] 
    Michale wrote:

    You really are completely clueless.

    She is...

    It's one of her most endearing qualities.. :D

    @vick

    You cannot insult me. It's not possible. :)

    And yet, he is doing such a bang up job.. :D

    Not entirely unexpected.. Homophobes and racists such as yerself are notoriously un-intelligent...

  98. [98] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [110]

    I see your point. You do have trolls dancing on command. You've got quite the, er,

    ...small, deeply disturbed following.

    Bay area Radio Jock
    THE BIG CHILL

  99. [99] 
    Kick wrote:

    Nick!

  100. [100] 
    Michale wrote:

    I see your point. You do have trolls dancing on command. You've got quite the, er,

    ...small, deeply disturbed following.

    Says the blatantly racist cad who posts racist and homophobic slurs...

    If anything proved beyond ANY doubt that I am on the side of angels and everyone else here is on the side of racists and homophobes......

    This is it...

    Thanx vick and cad... For proving beyond ANY doubt to even the most obtuse and moronic commenter...

    That I... and I alone... hold the moral and ethical high ground here in Weigantia™...

  101. [101] 
    Michale wrote:

    "If you're going to continue to post bullshit about me, I will be happy to link to your fat-faced mugshot if you'd like. "
    -vick

    So, apparently, vick concedes that, when I say vick is a blatant racist and homophobe vick is conceding that it's NOT "bullshit"..

    vick is conceding that she is, IN FACT, a blatant racist and homophobe... :D

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Once again... Bitch be PWNED!!!! :D

  102. [102] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    112

    Nick!

  103. [103] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [113]
    [116]

    YoubetchaNick!

    And thou dost flatter me using my "own goal." It just popped into my head as I sat there thinking now what would a British comedian say about this trollery?

  104. [104] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    You're so analytical! Sometimes you just have to let art... flow... over you.
    Nick - The Big Chill

  105. [105] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    117

    And thou dost flatter me using my "own goal."

    I liked it so much, I nicked it.

    nick
    verb
    3rd person present: nicks; past tense: nicked; past participle: nicked; gerund or present participle: nicking

    1. make a nick or nicks in.
    "he had nicked himself while shaving"

    2. INFORMAL BRITISH
    steal.
    "he'd had his car nicked by joyriders"

    *

    It just popped into my head as I sat there thinking now what would a British comedian say about this trollery?

    What would a British comedian say about this trollery?

    Thank You Hater!

  106. [106] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    I see Michale is still running his boring old ADH playbook.

    You all have fun with that...

  107. [107] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ahhh the faux veteran shows his ugly mug again...

    Sad ta see that stalker-ism is alive and well in Weigantia™

    What else can one expect from a moron who pretends to be a veteran...

  108. [108] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale

    …cyberstalks someone and uses that info to try and extort someone else into silence..

    Oh, you mean like when you were threatening to file a knowingly false report accusing a police officer of misusing his authority for personal gains? Washington State has very pro-active cyberstalking laws as well as public disclosure laws. (The county prosecutor laughed and asked how stupid do you have to be to post on a message board your intent to file a false police report!)

    Kick was correct. That photo of you is used by law enforcement, but not as an employee photo! IF it was only your military ID photo, why would you fear being extorted by it being released?

  109. [109] 
    Kick wrote:

    goode trickle
    120

    Wow, GT. Thanks for the links. They lead all over the place.

    https://alt.swingers.narkive.com/iimKOUXv/come-swing-with-us

    Russ will sure find that one interesting!

  110. [110] 
    goode trickle wrote:

    Yawwwwwwn...

    ADH in all of it's glory....

    Glad to see you at last are confirming for us that you are a faux vet.

    While we are at it...you are the last person on the planet who gets to use the word PWND. The elite don't keep the receipts for the feds to raid.

    Rage harder fat man, you might get that extra quadruple bypass.

  111. [111] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    122

    Oh, you mean like when you were threatening to file a knowingly false report accusing a police officer of misusing his authority for personal gains?

    Is he threatening people again? Somebody needs to seriously notify the fake cop what is and is NOT a crime.

    For instance:

    It is NOT a crime to search the Internet or post a link. Thank you, GT.

    It is definitely a crime to file a false police report.

    Washington State has very pro-active cyberstalking laws as well as public disclosure laws. (The county prosecutor laughed and asked how stupid do you have to be to post on a message board your intent to file a false police report!)

    It's also stupid to post your name all over a chat board and then whine that people are cyberstalking you, but definitely not a crime... just stupid as hell.

    Kick was correct. That photo of you is used by law enforcement, but not as an employee photo! IF it was only your military ID photo, why would you fear being extorted by it being released?

    Also, it's not extortion to post a link to a mugshot; it just isn't. He made all that extortion shit up anyway. I played him for the fool he is a long time ago, and he fell for it like the imbecile he is and has been butt hurt and dancing on cue ever since. He will dance for days on end on my cue; he is just that effing ignorant... and always has been. :)

  112. [112] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Chris,

    Instead, they should grab that broad brush and smear the entire GOP with it, for: "wanting to raise taxes on the poorest Americans -- those who can afford it least -- while continuing to shovel tax breaks at the ultra-wealthy."

    The Republican cult of economic failure will not die!

    Sometimes - more often than not, actually, always when you're talking about the tax and fiscal policy of the GOP - the headlines write themselves ...

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