Big Lie Believers Now Pushing For "Amish Voting"
Donald Trump's Big Lie continues to reverberate through American politics. The latest iteration of this is a growing Republican push to ban all machines used in the elections process and instead hand-count all the ballots. They've even got a snappy slogan: "Vote Amish!" I suppose that's better than "Vote Luddite," since it has a distinctly American flavor. But the entire concept is so unworkable and ridiculous (and downright dangerous) that it would be a near-guarantee of more election chaos, longer waits before the counts are complete, and lots and lots of new opportunities for challenging vote results that Republicans don't like (when Republicans lose, in other words). Which could be the entire point, of course.
On the face of it, banning all machines from the elections process doesn't sound completely unreasonable, at least at first. If human beings hand-count every ballot, then we'll all know there was no possible nefarious machine intervention in the vote totals, right? There'd be no possible way to hack anything, in other words. That's the selling point they're using, to a Republican audience that already believes (without a tiny shred of any proof from anywhere) that the last election was "stolen" from them. If you work your way backwards from that preordained conclusion, then it's pretty easy to just assume that there must have been mechanical problems -- if the machines said Joe Biden won, then there must be something wrong with the machines! It's like a build-your-own conspiracy kit (Mike Lindell probably has one available on his pillow-hawking website, one would assume).
The Washington Post did a deep dive into this emerging phenomenon today, with plenty of examples of activist Republicans trying to get voting machines banned in individual counties across the country. So far, most of these efforts haven't borne fruit or have been defeated. But that hasn't stopped them from trying.
There are two types of machine involved in elections. The first is a voting machine. There are many types of voting machine, which even would have to include the gigantic old mechanical "pull the lever" machines many of us can still remember using (or our parents using). The older ones were analog, not digital -- they had little wheels and gears and counters that tallied the votes, not computers. More modern machines are (of course) computerized. They present you with a ballot on a touch-screen, you mark your choices, and the machine adds them up. But since the 2000 election fiasco, virtually all of them also create a paper ballot of some sort for the voter to inspect (to assure them their votes were recorded correctly). This allows for physical verification of the totals the machine reports. Then there is another level of voting machine, those that only count the votes. Voters use a sheet of paper to mark their choices, and then stacks of these ballots are fed into tabulating machines. If the vote is clearly marked, it is counted. If not, the ballot is spit out for a human being to interpret. But while previous efforts to reform the voting process have centered on the voting machines -- mostly to get rid of all the "paperless" ones from a few decades ago -- this new effort is much more concerned with banning the use of counting machines.
This is nothing short of insanity. Banning any machine in the entire process -- which probably would be favorably looked upon by Amish people -- means a much slower process all around, and it means the totals would be far less accurate. Humans screw things up at a higher rate than machines do, to put it bluntly. Human error would be part of the process from the start. And the more votes that are counted, these more these errors would add up and accumulate. People pushing to "Vote Amish!" are essentially asking for more inaccurate results.
Plus there is the time factor, and something rather glaring which the Washington Post article missed. They provide all the facts, but never reach the right conclusion. Start with the few places in America where votes are indeed still counted by hand. These are mostly small towns with very few voters. The top three states in terms of percentage of votes counted by hand are Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. Think "town meeting" sort of government, in other words. Nationwide, only 0.2 percent of votes are counted by hand. Even in Vermont only 13.7 percent of the votes are hand-counted. Only three states have percentages above five percent. Only ten states have any votes counted by hand at all. It's just not very widely used, for obvious reasons.
The only places that still count votes by hand are small, and usually pretty rural. It's practicable to count all the votes by hand when there are only a few dozen of them in total (or even "a few hundred"). So there's no real delay in reporting the results.
But just think of what would happen if even a few medium-to-large red states passed a state law banning counting machines. You think it took too long to get the 2020 results reported? That'd be a cakewalk by comparison. It would take weeks to hand-count the ballots in a county like Maricopa County, Arizona (with 2 million votes cast in 2020). Weeks. If laws like this passed in ruby-red states where everyone knew the Republican was going to win anyway, it wouldn't be that big a deal, if all the blue and purple states still reported their results the night of the election (or within a few days, worst case). We would all know who had won by whether they had gotten enough blue/purple state votes or not. But if this passes in purple states (some of which have GOP-controlled state governments), then we're all going to be in for a very long wait.
The key point the Post article misses is that the vote-counting would be slowest in the precincts with the most voters. Think about it -- all the rural, small-county votes would arrive first. But all the cities would take a while, and big cities would take weeks. When you think about which type of voter lives where, you can instantly see the problem this would cause.
Donald Trump already tried to cast doubt on all the (Democratic) cities' vote totals, in 2020. He did so by believing the early trends in counting on the night of the election, when all the rural votes arrived first (for the most part). The cities took hours longer (since they have millions of ballots to count) and that's when the tide shifted in several states that Trump ultimately lost. Trump tried to blow a whistle in the middle of the process and proclaim himself the victor, based on the early results. Thankfully, this didn't work. But Trump really only had a couple of hours to make this attempt, in most states. And even in places like Arizona and Pennsylvania, he only had a few days.
But imagine that process taking weeks, not hours or days. That would leave plenty of time to challenge everything under the sun (both in courts and in the court of public opinion). Since Democratic-leaning votes would be the last to be counted, if any of these efforts succeeded they could hand the election to a Republican who didn't deserve it.
Which, as I began with, seems to be the whole point of this effort. Which is what makes it so dangerous. If a handful of purple states (Nevada, Michigan, maybe Georgia) banned all use of vote-counting machines, it would virtually guarantee that the only results available on Election Day would be the small and rural counties. The votes from the cities would take far longer to tally. Imagine what Republicans would be doing in the meantime. We already saw this happen in 2020, but on a much smaller scale than it would the next time around. This is precisely what the entire "Vote Amish!" movement seems to want to accomplish. As I said, so far they haven't managed to succeed much of anywhere, but this insidious effort certainly bears watching to prevent it from taking root.
-- Chris Weigant
Follow Chris on Twitter: @ChrisWeigant
Donald Trump's Big Lie continues to reverberate through American politics. The latest iteration of this is a growing Republican push to ban all machines used in the elections process and instead hand-count all the ballots.
Hey, that's what we do up here in Canada! And, you don't have to be Amish, either. Just show some simple ID. Of course, early voting is allowed, so ...
And, when you fill out your income tax every year, you check the box that says Canada Elections will register you for the next election and send you a voter ID card. Which you just need to supplement with some simple ID ... doesn't even have to be photo ID.
Our elections are very secure, very fair and very easy to take part in. Very much like American elections but without the machines. :)
I dunno, we do alright here without machines. Of course, we have one tenth of the population but, still ... don't really see the problem for the US. You would just need more election workers and a revised provision for recounts when the result is close.
What IS the big deal!?
EM
They count the vote by hand in Toronto? Vancouver? No machines at all? No adding machine? All the counting is done by a person with a pencil?
If that were so it would take weeks to know who won.
SF Bear,
The Canadian Way To Efficient Elections
The other interesting thing about our elections, well, two things, really ...
The campaigns last for about 30 days, give or take.
And, in federal elections, as for provincial elections, we vote for our riding Members of Parliament (Federal) or riding members of Provincial Pariliament or Legislative Assemblies (MPPs or MLAs) and NOT directly for the Prime Minister or Provincial Premier.
The leader of the party with the most votes becomes the PM or Premier.
In other words, we don't spend very much time at all on elections. Which suits me just fine.
And, just very recently, Prime Minister Trudeau, who currently enjoys, ahem, a minority government, signed a memorandum of understanding with the New Democratic Party that will ensure that we won't have a federal election for another five years or so ... of course, the Conservatives are crying foul but, who the heck cares about them, anyways!? :)
SF Bear,
They count the vote by hand in Toronto? Vancouver? No machines at all? No adding machine? All the counting is done by a person with a pencil? If that were so it would take weeks to know who won.
Actually, it is done by many persons and we usually know the result by election night or the next morning. No fuss, no muss ... :)
Every election result in Canada is 100% verifiable.
there are no cats in canada, and the streets are made of cheese
Don,
How what?
We don't burn the ballots after they are counted, you know ...
Okay, I have a theme for this coming Sunday Night!
Favourite music videos!!!
Hope to see you all there and bring all your favourite music videos.
It'll be a blast!
Did I mention that we use ID?
We've never had any issues. Sure, there have been recounts but, nothing out of the ordinary.
Of course, you have to trust the election officials. And, if you don't trust them, then who the frak cares anyway, then, right?
Who would you trust to verify, Don? Never mind ...
DH,
Michale-
You claim you addressed my arguments but you did not.
That is itself another statement with no argument to back it up.
Which arguments are you making that are not rational and backed up by facts?
The ones addressed in comments 61 and 64 which you have not addressed. Instead you disappeared from the discussion (just as I said you do) and returned not to continue the discussion but to comment on my comment to Mtn Coward.
Now you ask for the specifics you ran away form that were in comments 61 and 64.
A coward and a troll.
And then following it with lies about me projecting when it is you and Mtn Coward projecting.
And the time to be with wife excuse and another lie that you will look for the specifics tomorrow that you already pretended weren't there today.
A coward, a troll and a liar.
I ask you to name a fact or position that I have taken that is not rational and asked you for specifics and facts as to WHY it's not rational and you give ^^^^^ this spewage...
Given that you cannot point to a specific position of mine that is irrational, I accept your concession that you are full of kaa kaa.. :D
As for the "being with my wife" excuse?? :D
Son, I have been here in Weigantia since BEFORE it was Weigantia..
And one common thread throughout that entire 15-16 YEARS is that, when it gets to be around 1700-1800 Eastern time... Barring extraordinary circumstances, I am gone from Weigantia...
EVERYONE here knows that...
So, that was pretty lame on your part DH...
But hay.. I am a fair guy...
I'll be around all day today.. So I'll ask again.. Give me a position I have taken that is irrational and not backed up by FACTS..
Please provide SPECIFICS and FACTS of your own to support your claim..
Can ya do that?? I am betting you can't.. :D
Russ,
Just all of your posts on here claiming that masks do nothing to prevent the spread of the virus and claiming the pandemic was nothing but a political hoax.
Of course it wasn't a "hoax".. It was a successful fear-mongering campaign to induce panic and compliance in the populace... This would make the public less likely to challenge the process put into place that allows for cheating...
The facts are on my side..
You?? Do YOU have any facts to support YOUR claims??
No, as usual, you do not..
Russ,
Why would those gifts be considered “unlawful”?
Because those "gifts" were meant to help ELECTIONS.. But the "gifts" were given SOLELY to Democrats and created entire county election boards that were staffed SOLELY with Democrats..
These weren't campaign donations, Russ..
They were ELECTION donations that were given SOLELY to Democrats..
That's illegal..
Do you understand the distinction??
Florida schools did not shut down at all during the pandemic? Did any Republican state force kids to attend school as if no pandemic existed? Trump supported his CDC’s guidelines some days that called for shutting down the schools. But those facts don’t support your FACTS, do they?
Yes, President Trump and Governor DeSantis at first believed that the CDC was acting in good faith and that it was actually about the science..
Then it was learned that it was actually nothing but Democrat maneuvering and that's when President Trump and Governor DeSantis told the CDC to frak off...
GOP states opened schools LONG before Dim states.. GOP States opened their economies LONG before Dim states..
Hell, NY and CA schools STILL have kids wearing masks!!!
Democrats are morons..
What??? Stacey BIG LIE Abrams is pushing for AMISH Voting???
Really!!???
Liz,
Hey, that's what we do up here in Canada! And, you don't have to be Amish, either. Just show some simple ID. Of course, early voting is allowed, so ...
Simple IDs can be easily faked.. How can you trust your elections??
Liz,
Our elections are very secure, very fair and very easy to take part in. Very much like American elections but without the machines. :)
The fact that it's not a photo ID proves your elections are no secure..
Let me put it this way, Liz.
Would you consider your bank "very secure" if all someone had to do was show a utility bill with your name on it to be allowed to draw money out of your account???
Would you consider your bank "very secure"??
I don't think you would..
NO ONE would...
You would just need more election workers and a revised provision for recounts when the result is close.
And what if rich GOP'ers got together and put in BILLIONS of dollars to make sure all those election workers were GOP'ers...
How would you feel about the election then???
Hmmmmm??? :D
Because that is EXACTLY what happened in 2020...
Zuckerberg paid almost a billion dollars to buy entire election boards in strategic red and purple counties..
Lo and behold, ALL of the counties that Zuckerberg bought ALL went for Biden...
Uncanny...
Liz,
... of course, the Conservatives are crying foul but, who the heck cares about them, anyways!? :)
Yea.. Stoopid conservatives!!
Why!! They shouldn't even be allowed to VOTE!! Amiright!!!
So, let's only care about the people who vote the way they SHOULD vote... amiright!!??
And viola.... Unfair elections in Canada... :D
Did I mention that we use ID?
No, you use a piece of paper that may or may not be a valid ID... :D
A photo ID is the ONLY true and verifiable ID.. And even THAT should be checked and double-checked..
BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Odumbo comes back to the Oval Office and pushes Biden out of the limelight.. :D
https://twitter.com/i/status/1511410171364454408
Look at poor Joe.. He turns around and no one is there with him.. He moves his hands like, "Whaa?? Where did everyone go??" and then forlornly looks over to Odumbo yuking it up in a crowd..
That video right there is the epitome of Joe's Presidency...
Forlorn and lost, looking for some way, some how to be relevant.. :D
It's hilarious in a sad and pathetic sort of way... :D
And here is another one..
https://twitter.com/i/status/1511447663002243095
Look at old Joe moving his mouth, trying to actually be part of the conversation and everyone is just ignoring him...
What a sad sad old man...
Ya almost gotta feel sorry for him. At least you could feel sorry for him if you could forget how badly he has screwed up and how many people lost their lives due to his screw-ups..
And coming to TWITTER near you.. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr-qKa6Qajg
There is magic in the air.. :D
Yunno... As bad as things are for Democrats?? :D
The simple fact is, everyday Americans do NOT want to buy what the Hysterical Democrats are selling...
No climate change bullshit.. No gender-bending bullshit for kindergartners.. No Equity/Every White Person Is Racist bullshit..
Ya'all's Democrat Party has been taken over by the nuts in the asylum..
And it's going to cost ya'all Congress in 2022 and the White House in 2024...
Time for ya'all to face reality..
Biden has lost 11 points amongst Democrats since Jun 2021...
*17* points amongst Independents and NPAs..
And some of ya'all STILL believe that Democrats will be ok in Nov?? :D
Yea.. Cause that worked SO WELL for Governor.... ooops.. I mean NOT Governor Terry MacAwful, eh??
That's all Democrats have to offer the American people.. Hysterical fear-mongering bullshit... :^/
You people must be SOOOO proud of yer Democrat Party, eh?? :^/
DOUBLE BARREL!!!
Durham evidence creates timeline of relentless Democrat effort to sell Russia collusion hoax
Special prosecutor lays out how Clinton campaign, lawyers, researchers and activists flooded government with allegations, hoping some might stick.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/durham-evidence-creates-timeline-relentless-democrat
Hunter Biden's laptop and Democrats' Russia Collusion Delusion conspiracy....
Democrats just CAN'T catch a break!!! :D
Serves 'em right.. :D
Ukraine is not the beacon of freedom and goodness that some Americans want us to believe...
Speaking of elections.. :D
JL,
1. Hitler was a nihilistic madman bent on global conquest. Putin and Xi are both relatively sane individuals acting in rational ways based on limited geopolitical goals.
It's funny how you believe that Putin = Hitler is NOT a valid comparison...
But you believe that Hitler = President Trump IS a valid comparison..
Yer PTDS is showing. :D
DH,
What part of comments 61 and 64 do you not understand?
The parts where you fail to point out, with specifics, an argument I make that is not rational..
When you ask for something that was already provided as if it has not been provided and you are referred to the information that was already provided what you ask for has been provided.
You have been taking lessons from Bashi..
Making claims that you claim you already made without any facts to back up that you made them.. :D
Yet you again ask for it as if it has not been provided.
Yes.. That's yer claim. As yet unsubstantiated..
Grow up.
You first.. :D
The consequences of Democrats racist revolving door justice system for black Americans... :^/
Sacramento mass shooting suspect released from prison early weeks before tragedy, has violent past
He was sentenced to 10 years in 2018 for for domestic violence and assault with great bodily injury
https://www.foxnews.com/us/sacramento-mass-shooting-suspect-released-prison-10-year-sentence
And you people wonder why Democrats are going to be DECIMATED and destroyed in November.. :^/
These are the kinds of degenerates that Democrats protect..
California trans child molester Hannah Tubbs was accused of attacking 4-year-old girl in 2013: documents
The convicted child predator recently pleaded guilty to attacking a 10-year-old girl in a Denny's restroom in 2014
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-trans-child-molester-hannah-tubbs-4-year-old-girl-library
:^/
Milley's new Ukraine war prediction is stark departure from early forecast of '72 hour' takeover
Gen. Milley predicted Kyiv would fall in '72 hours'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mark-milley-ukraine-war-prediction-fall-72-hours
Maybe Milley should worry less about racist bullshit like "white rage" and concentrate on actual MILITARY issues, eh?? :^/
Still waiting for you to provide specifics on a factual argument of mine that you claim is "irrational"...
The longer you procrastinate and provide nothing, the more moronic you look.. :D
So, by all means.. Continue.. :D
Cue Hunter Biden laptop comment.......
Since you requested it..
CNN, MSNBC dismissed Hunter Biden’s laptop as ‘Russian disinformation’ until liberal narrative was deflated
'CNN and MSNBC... need to come clean in a manner befitting their media malpractice,' William A. Jacobson said
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-msnbc-dismissed-hunter-bidens-laptop-russian-disinformation-narrative-deflated
For those who claim that the Hunter Biden saga is a "nothing burger" and will fade away..
The FACTS prove ya'all wrong.. :D
"I can do this all day.."
-Captain America
:D
Michale,
Would you consider your bank "very secure" if all someone had to do was show a utility bill with your name on it to be allowed to draw money out of your account???
Of course, not!
And, once again and just like every other time on every other issue, you fail to enumerate all of the facts.
Call me shocked.
Disney backlash...
Protesters plan rally at Disney's California HQ: 'They crossed a line in the sand'
Disney faces backlash to 'woke' agenda from parents
https://www.foxnews.com/media/disney-rally-california-woke-agenda
What's ironic about all of this is the incoming Disney CEO Chapek is totally against all of Disney's political activism..
Chapek was set on keeping Disney on topic and on mission to provide quality family entertainment..
But outgoing CEO Iger, who is a total moron Left Wing Activist....
"Is there another kind??"
-Colonel Nathan R Jessup, A FEW GOOD MEN
... wanted to involve Disney in the Left Wing fight so Iger pushed Chapek into taking a stand...
Of course the VERY vocal minority of Disney morons were only too happy to put their ignorant 2 cents in..
Disney...
The Colin Kappernut of 2022... :^/
}}}}}Would you consider your bank "very secure" if all someone had to do was show a utility bill with your name on it to be allowed to draw money out of your account???{{{{
Of course, not!
So you concede that a utility bill is not a valid form of ID..
And, once again and just like every other time on every other issue, you fail to enumerate all of the facts.
What facts have I failed to enumerate??
You admit that a utility bill is not sufficient ID to withdraw money from your account..
Then how can it be a secure ID for voting???
Call me shocked.
Hi Shocked, I'm Michale.. :D
Call me shocked.
Hi Shocked, I'm Michale.. :D
"You killed a dozen people just to get our attention!!??"
"Hi, I'm Meg.. I'm a demon. Nice to meetcha.."
-SUPERNATURAL
A reckoning is coming!!! :D
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/04/1862/1048/TWEET.png?ve=1&tl=1
Hell, NY and CA schools STILL have kids wearing masks!!!
Democrats are morons..
I still wear masks at work and on public transit. I also wear it when I'm inside indoor environments where I don't know if people have been vaccinated. Though, in Canada, we do have a pretty high vaccination rate but, still ... I prefer to be as careful as possible.
At the end of the month, I'll be going to a restaurant with live music (the Beggars Banquet, a local and phenomenal Rolling Stones tribute band!!! - can't wait, they are sooooooooooooo fun!) so my mask will be off while eating and drinking but, for the most part during the show I'll be wearing my outfit coordinated mask. Ahem.
Guess you think I'm a moron, too.
Well, the way I see it is that wearing a mask while we are still in the acute phase of this pandemic is a sign that we care about the health of the most vulnerable people in our communities who are most susceptible to COVID-19 disease.
Wearing a mask is a very small sacrifice to keep everyone around us safe.
As I am fully vaxed and boosted and as I have always been a hand-washer who doesn't touch their face unless their hands are clean, I'm not too worried about contributing to the transmission of this virus. And, frankly, wearing a mask isn't the most vital part of my protection strategy. So, my wearing a mask is more of a show of respect for others around me - I'm letting them know that I care about them and about keeping us all safe from this virus.
Can you understand that?
Michale,
What facts have I failed to enumerate??
Virtually all of them.
And, that right there is why my time is not wasted on most of your comments in these threads.
And, before you play the game of asking me to educate you on the facts, don't bother. Educating yourself is on you, my friend. And, in our age of the interwebs, its an easy thing to do.
Five Thirty Eight
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
Left wingers swear by 538 :D
"I can do this all day.."
-Captain America
Captain America would never do what you do, Michale. It's bad for business.
Captain America would never do what you do, Michale. It's bad for business.
Depends on the business..
If yer a patriotic American, as Captain America is, as I am, then what I do is AWESOME for business.. :D
I bring facts to the fact-less...
What could be more honorable than that??
That would be great if it was true but, it ain't, so ...
Very nice!
Virtually all of them.
And, that right there is why my time is not wasted on most of your comments in these threads.
And, before you play the game of asking me to educate you on the facts, don't bother. Educating yourself is on you, my friend. And, in our age of the interwebs, its an easy thing to do.
Just remember this, my girl
When you look up in the sky
You can see the stars
But still not see the light
-THE EAGLES
Kenosha County ravaged by BLM riots flips red after decades of Dem leadership
The candidate campaigned on her 'eagle-eyed' approach to saving taxpayer money
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kenosha-county-flips-red-democratic-leadership
Democrats simply CAN'T govern properly...
Just remember this, my girl
When you look up in the sky
You can see the stars
But still not see the light
That's YOUR motto, Michale! And, one of my favourite Eagles songs.
Which reminds me ... we don't play enough Eagles Sunday Nights around here. We'll have to fix that! :)
LGBTQ reporter says MSNBC ‘misgendered me,’ refuses to fix it
Reporter Kate Sosin prefers "they/them" pronouns
https://www.foxnews.com/media/lgbtq-reporter-msnbc-misgendered-me-refuses-fix-it
WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What IS it about these alternative lifestyle morons that they are so damn sensitive??? :^/
Sosin appeared on MSNBC while an on-screen graphic said, "1 in 3 women under 35 experience online harassment."
One has to ask.. Is it actually 1 in 3???
Or is the 3 actually all the same person?? Just referred to as "3"???
:^/
OK Before I address comments that were made when I was at work, allow me this rant..
WHAT THE FRAK IS GOING ON WITH SUPPLY CHAINS!!!????
I went to 3 different stores to find some cat food!! And I STILL couldn't find any!!!
Democrats are really frakin' up BIG TIME!!!!
Jeezus H frakin' Christ!!!!
Democrats can't even keep cat food stocked!!!
{/rant}
Thank you...
Only one in three women are harassed online? In real life it's more like four out of five.
But you believe that Hitler = President Trump IS a valid comparison..
No, i don't. Trump is not Hitler by any stretch of the imagination. He campaigns in a similar way, but that's where the comparison ends.
Liz,
I still wear masks at work and on public transit. I also wear it when I'm inside indoor environments where I don't know if people have been vaccinated. Though, in Canada, we do have a pretty high vaccination rate but, still ... I prefer to be as careful as possible.
Being that yer an old fart like me, that is your prerogative.. I don't agree with it, but that's yer choice...
But we're talking kids here..
The SCIENCE has proven unequivocally that there is absolutely NO NEED to mask kids..
UNEQUIVOCALLY....
So, the ONLY reason to force kids to wear mask is to exercise authority.. To enforce compliance SOLELY for compliance sake..
That's police state crap...
At the end of the month, I'll be going to a restaurant with live music (the Beggars Banquet, a local and phenomenal Rolling Stones tribute band!!! - can't wait, they are sooooooooooooo fun!) so my mask will be off while eating and drinking but, for the most part during the show I'll be wearing my outfit coordinated mask. Ahem.
So, in other words, you take your mask off because REALITY dictates you need to..
But, in those brief moments that your mask is off, you COULD get sick...
Logically, if you feel there is a chance of you getting sick, you shouldn't be at that place at all, right???
So your actions are illogical..
If there is enough of a threat that you feel you need a mask, then the threat is sufficient that SHOULD keep you home and "safe"...
Do you see the inherent illogic of your position???
The mask has become a "security blanket".. Like Linus... It makes you feel better but actually serves no useful purpose..
ESPECIALLY, if your mask is of the designer cloth variety which has SCIENTIFICALLY been proven to be ineffective..
It's like wearing a designer hat..
If it makes you feel better to wear it, knock yerself out..
But I am sure you would agree that it's more of a fashion affectation than an actual medical need...
Guess you think I'm a moron, too.
Not at all.. If you like your designer face covering, like some women like their designer hats... More power to ya.. :D
Just so you understand, there is no medical necessity involved here.. :D
Wearing a mask is a very small sacrifice to keep everyone around us safe.
But it's doing NOTHING to keep YOU safe, nor keep anyone else safe.. Especially since you are removing it and replacing it on a continuous basis..
Can you understand that?
Absolutely... I understand it in the same sense I understand how there are Sheldon Coopers out there who are germaphobes... I don't begrudge them (or you) doing whatever they(you) feel you need to do to be comfortable in today's society...
Just don't condemn others who actually follow the science and know that life is a crapshoot anyways... We never know what's going to come our way...
You wear a mask....
I carry a Glock 19 ext mag with a Cobra .380 backup...
Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks... :D
Only one in three women are harassed online? In real life it's more like four out of five.
I am just going by what that one girl who thinks she is 3 people is saying...
She's obviously frak'ed in the head.. Maybe she thinks she is a dog as well.. Who knows.. :^/
No, i don't. Trump is not Hitler by any stretch of the imagination. He campaigns in a similar way, but that's where the comparison ends.
So, there IS a valid comparison to be made..
You were the one who invalidated the GODWIN (a time honored meme) because you felt a Trump/Hitler comparison was valid..
Now yer saying diff??
LGBTQ reporter says MSNBC ‘misgendered me,’ refuses to fix it
Reporter Kate Sosin prefers "they/them" pronouns
*I* prefer "Your Lordship" pronoun..
Is anyone here going to indulge me in that egotistical fantasy???
No??
Then what makes this girl think she is something special???
morons.... :^/
The comparison is only valid within the limited scope of campaign tactics. Putin has invaded and been appeased, so he can be compared to the nazis on that point. These similarities are substantive, but not even a tiny bit comprehensive.
IRAN Published April 6, 2022 1:02pm EDT
Democrats band together to raise concerns with Iran nuke deal revival: 'We can't stay quiet'
18 Democrats are calling on Biden administration to reconsider 'deeply troubling' deal
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-raise-concerns-iran-nuke-deal-revival
Even DEMOCRATS realize how badly Iran is rolling Biden... :^/
If i say you have a mustache like Hitler, that doesn't mean I'm saying you're the same as him in any other way.
These similarities are substantive, but not even a tiny bit comprehensive.
I am betting that there are those in Ukraine who would argue "comprehensive" with you...
No one is claiming a 1-1 comparison exists here...
But considering that this is the largest war Europe has seen SINCE the Nazis went to war, the comparisons ARE substantive AND comprehensive...
I am sure, as this war drags on (as did WWII) the comprehensiveness will become clearer and clearer...
If i say you have a mustache like Hitler, that doesn't mean I'm saying you're the same as him in any other way.
And if we were talking superficial physical attributes, you would have a point...
But we're not, so you don't..
Russian crematoria operating in Mariupol: 'This is the new Auschwitz,' mayor say
Officials report that Ukrainian citizens are being separated from families and sent to 'filtration camps'
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-crematoria-mariupol-new-auschwitz-mayor
Really???
"NOTHING" like Hitler??? NO RESEMBLENCE whatsoever???
CAPITAL HILL ATTACK!!!!!
FOX ATTACKS DEMOCRATS!!!
Capitol Hill fox euthanized, will be tested for rabies as DC Health officials weigh kits’ fate
One of its victims was Rep. Ami Bera, a California Democrat
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-fox-euthanized-will-be-tested-for-rabies
Even ANIMALS hate Democrats!!! :D
Once again, the IGER vs CHEPAK struggle is front and center here..
Woke Disney vs. Walt's Disney: Is political corporate model sustainable or just goofy?
Can Disney take a firm stand on this issue and remain the storyteller to America's kids?
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/woke-walt-disney-politics-sustainable-goofy-david-marcus
If Disney continues it's Left Wing dash, it will become the Colin Kappernut of the entertainment industry..
Only relevant to the hysterical Left...
Far be it from me to defend Russia's war crimes, but no, it's not even a little bit like what the nazis did.
Far be it from me to defend Russia's war crimes, but no, it's not even a little bit like what the nazis did.
The only difference is that the Russians haven't hit the 6 million mark yet.. :^/
We'll just have to agree to disagree..
If Disney continues it's Left Wing dash, it will become the Colin Kappernut of the entertainment industry..
Only relevant to the hysterical Left...
Colin Kapernut is like swimmer Chris Thompson.. Chris couldn't handle the sport as a guy so he decided to become a girl and now he is at the top..
Kapernut couldn't handle football as a quarterback, so he decided to become an activist and now he is at the top of the hysterical Left... :^/
And if we were talking superficial physical attributes, you would have a point...
But we're not, so you don't..
It's called an analogy. Perhaps trump's area of similarity with Hitler is not physical or superficial, but it's just as distinctive as the mustache, and just as relevant to any other areas of comparison - which is to say, not at all. Trump campaigns like Hitler did, and to any student of history it's unnerving. But fortunately, other than German ancestry, that's just about the only thing the two have in common.
JL
Trump campaigns like Hitler did, and to any student of history it's unnerving.
And no other person in history had oratory like that???
One could point to Odumbo's or FDR's or even JFK's oratory and show similarities between them and Hitler...
You are singling out President Trump due to PTDS....
Even MLK oratory was similar to Hitler..
Great Speeches, Volume 1 (Platinum Edition): John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., Adolf Hitler, Douglas MacArthur, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Barack Obama
https://www.films.com/id/24922
JFK diary calls Hitler 'stuff of legends'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39371715
Similarities Between Martin Luther King Jr And Hitler
https://www.ipl.org/essay/Similarities-Between-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-And-FKUXHHMEN8VT
I know ya'all like to try and tie Hitler to President Trump due to the PTDS ya'all are suffering...
But it's nothing but mental masturbation...
It makes ya'all feel good, but really has no basis in reality beyond how it applies to every good speaker...
In other words, saying President Trump is as good of a speaker as Adolph Hitler is a compliment...
Being a good speaker doesn't make one an evil psychotic dictator bent on world domination..
If that were true, then Judge Jackson Brown would be an evil psychotic dictator bent on world domination...
:^/
"WaPo always good for a laugh."
-Elon Musk
Ain't THAT the truth!!! :D hehehehehehehe
'Good morning to our new overlord!': Woke Twitter employees vent their fears over Elon Musk's vow to make 'significant' changes on platform after admitting his $3b investment for 9% of shares is NOT passive
Employees have expressed uneasiness over Elon Musk's role at Twitter
Some allege the Tesla CEO will act as a 'overload' as he vows 'significant' change
Others implied Musk would move the company's focus from growth and sustainability to financial success and booming stock prices
The billionaire, after being named a company board member and the majority shareholder, admitted his investment in Twitter was not passive
Musk currently holds a 9.2 percent stake in the company and has secured a seat on the board until Twitter's 2024 annual shareholders meeting
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10691887/Employees-reveal-concerns-Elon-Musks-vow-make-significant-changes-Twitter.html
Woke'sters are running scared!!! :D
The Hysterical Left is on notice...
Ya'all's days are numbered!! :D
Woot!!! :D
And......
ONE HUNDRED!!!! :D
BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hysterical Left wingers whining and crying about "political discrimination"....
BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now *THAT* is funny as hell!!!!! :D
Michale,
Airlines cancel hundreds of flights due to COVID-19 after dropping mask rules
sure, one can reach for one or two similarities between any successful politicians.
however, the communications styles of trump and hitler are similar
in MANY ways.
and no, most of Donald's characteristics are very different from Hitler's. However, there is enough of a similarity in their communication styles that there IS
room for concern.
*I* prefer "Your Lordship" pronoun..
Is anyone here going to indulge me in that egotistical fantasy???
As most 10 year olds could have told you before posting such an idiotic post…
“Your Lordship” is not a pronoun. It doesn’t even have amateur status.
A photo ID is the ONLY true and verifiable ID..
— Every owner of a fake ID
Of course it wasn't a "hoax".. It was a successful fear-mongering campaign to induce panic and compliance in the populace... This would make the public less likely to challenge the process put into place that allows for cheating...
The facts are on my side..
Democrats knew that the Republican base was so conditioned to oppose ANYTHING the Democrats supported. They never believed that Republican Party would stand by and allow their base to put their lives at such great risk based on a lie. Donald Trump felt that the most dangerous aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic wasn’t the potential loss of life or the economic damage, itself, but the potential damage to his re-election bid the virus might prove to be. That fear was evident and dictated Trump’s handling of the pandemic from the start. Keeping sick Americans on cruise ships from coming into port because it would increase the total number of confirmed cases too much. Suggesting that we wouldn’t have as many people sick if we simply stopped testing for the virus. He did not care whether you were sick or not, he only cared that you increased the number of total sick with the virus and that made him look bad! It’s why Trump declared victory over the virus in early 2020.