COVID Checkup
It's time for another COVID checkup. I say this for two reasons, one personal and one media-related. The personal is that I just got my second booster shot this past weekend. Which I would have done anyway, because I personally trust medical science and want to be as protected as possible against the pandemic; but in the past few days I might have been more motivated to do so, if all the information I got was from television news. Because, according to them, it's time for everyone to panic once again.
The news media has taken a lot of flak for their pandemic reporting, some of it justified and some not. This is a deadly disease which has swept through the American population in multiple waves and is close to having caused one million American deaths. That's as serious as it gets, obviously. The number of deaths is almost certainly a lot higher than that, but when the official number does push through the seven-digit threshold, it will doubtlessly be big news. It is natural to note when such a milestone number has been reached, but what is less natural is to treat all COVID news as bad -- or to exclusively report on the bad at the expense of any good news at all. Which sums up the viewpoint of television news for roughly the past year or so.
This is perhaps most notable right now. At first, most of the COVID news was bad, some of it horrifyingly so. There were no vaccines or accepted treatments, and the medical profession was essentially in the dark on what to do. The hospitalization rates and death rates were correspondingly high, which was tragic to see. The last wave of this situation came in the winter of 2020-2021. Treatments were slowly appearing, and the vaccine had finally been approved, but both were mostly too late for that first winter's surge. Six months later, we all experienced what appeared to be COVID's final retreat, which culminated in July as we all returned to Independence Day picnics and threw off our masks.
Since then, the situation has changed. More and more people got vaccinated. More and more people had built up at least some degree of natural immunity by already having survived a bout of COVID. But Delta swept back through the population anyway, leading to the reinstatement of masks and other pandemic restrictions, right after everyone thought they were gone forever. Delta was a lot more deadly than the initial strain, and it was indeed a reason for both public attention and concern. This rollercoaster then continued, as just when it appeared Delta was finally waning, Omicron appeared. The Omicron mutation was serious news, since it was a lot more contagious than the original strain or Delta, although (thankfully) it was also less lethal than Delta. But the caseload shot through the roof in a way not seen in any previous wave, so it gave the news media plenty of breathless reporting opportunities.
New cases in January of 2021 hit a daily average of around 250,000. During Delta, this number never rose above around 160,000. But in the Omicron wave it astonishingly topped 800,000 new cases per day. That's news, obviously, and it was indeed a cause for concern.
But what was interesting at the end of the Omicron wave was how quickly the story disappeared from television when the news turned good again. For a few weeks, the cameras sought out the increasingly-hard-to-find overcrowded hospitals so they could run stories about how "the wave isn't over yet!" but when the wave really did recede everywhere, no stories at all appeared. Good news isn't newsworthy to the news media, in other words.
But now they think they've got another spike to report on, so they've gone back into overdrive. The stories this week have all led with: "Cases rising!" They even hint that the problem could be much worse -- because "most cases aren't even reported anymore, due to all the at-home test kits!" Philadelphia was the big story, since they announced a return to a mask mandate beginning next week.
Well, yes, all of that is true, but could we please keep things in just a wee bit of perspective? Is that too much to ask? Because while we may indeed be at an inflection point on the graphs, this may not in fact be all that big a deal at all. It's simply too early to tell -- a nuance you will find conspicuously absent from most of the reporting.
Let's take a look at the data, from the New York Times COVID tracking page (which is free for all to access, as it's not behind their paywall). Looking at the big chart of the rolling average of daily new reported cases, we can see that the numbers have risen over the past ten days. On April 3rd, we hit the lowest daily number since last summer, with only 26,992 cases (on average) reported daily. Yesterday, this number was up to 32,218 (although it is down again today to only 31,567). But please note the rest of that graph -- the missing context. Again, at the height of Omicron, we were seeing over 805,000 cases per day.
The media is seemingly a big fan of the maxim about three types of lie ("a lie, a damned lie, and statistics") whenever they toss out scientific numbers, since (again) bad news is what they like to focus on. So (once again) they are spotlighting the worst area of the country (currently New England), where they breathlessly report the case rate is "up over 50 percent in recent days!" That certainly sounds a lot scarier than stating "the national case rate has inched up from 3.3 percent of the high reached during Omicron to 4.0 percent," which is also the truth according to the data.
Even when you look at the individual state data, you can clearly see that while the case rate has been rising in certain states, we're still not at the point where alarm bells should loudly be ringing. Take Rhode Island, which is currently the worst state in the graphs the New York Times uses to measure state-by-state impacts. The measurement used in these charts is "percentage of the peak reached in the winter of 2020-2021," which is somewhat strange, but the chart would look almost the same no matter what scale you used to draw it. Rhode Island's case numbers have risen from a low of only 18 percent of the first winter peak to 42 percent. That is more than doubling, obviously. Rhode Island is an interesting state to use as an example, since it saw the biggest spike under Omicron of any state -- when it hit a whopping 669 percent of the first winter's peak. A change of even 24 percent doesn't look so bad, when the recent past is taken into account. And for further context, in most states -- and in the nation as a whole -- the graph line is still either flat or continuing to fall. Using a different measurement, no state in the country is now above 50 new daily cases per 100,000 people -- which is a lot lower than where it was during Omicron (when it spiked to many hundreds of cases per 100,000 per day). Only three states and the District of Columbia are even above 30 cases per 100,000 -- every other state is below this mark. Most states (32 of them) are in fact in the single digits in this metric.
Basically, it is way too soon to tell whether the BA.2 variant of Omicron is going to be a huge problem or not. Right now, "probably not" is likely the safest bet. Of course, this could change quickly if the numbers spike a lot more dramatically than they are spiking now (which did indeed happen with Omicron), but even then things might not be too bad.
I say this because even though the case numbers are rising in New England, the number of people hospitalized is not spiking. Neither is the death rate -- but that's immaterial at this early stage, since deaths always lag behind infections and hospitalizations by weeks (meaning such a spike wouldn't even show up for a few more weeks, at the earliest). This could be due to the BA.2 variant being no more dangerous than the original Omicron mutation, but at least part of it is where we are as a population right now.
A full two-thirds of the American population (66 percent) is now fully vaccinated (which means the initial two doses, without taking boosters into account). At least 77 percent have gotten at least one dose. While these numbers aren't as high as some developed nations, even this is a pessimistic way to look at it. One segment of the population -- children under the age of six -- has not even been approved for vaccinations. When you count only the population that has been approved, the numbers improve to 70 percent fully vaccinated and 82 percent with at least one dose. Added to this metric is the fact that there have been over 80 million American cases reported during the entire span of the pandemic (although some people have contracted it multiple times, so that doesn't equate to the number of people who have had COVID). A big chunk of those cases happened during that gigantic Omicron spike -- quite recently, in other words. People who have had the virus and recovered are at least partially protected by the body's own natural immunity.
To put all this another way, America may not be fully there (experts disagree about where to draw the line) but we are about as close to "herd immunity" as we are going to get. This means that even though the case numbers may go up in a post-Omicron spike (which hasn't really happened yet -- it's hard to call a rather gentle upturn a "spike"), the number of hospitalizations and deaths likely won't (or at least not too seriously). People will get a little sick, stay at home for a while, and then get better. The hope is that eventually this becomes the norm, and COVID fades into the generic background of being just "a seasonal flu" that doesn't cause mass deaths (the way it first did).
But it's hard to keep this context -- that the recent increases should cause a little concern, perhaps, but certainly not some sort of wild panic -- when hearing about the numbers on the evening news. The biggest lack of context is the fact that it is still far too early to say, one way or another, how impactful the BA.2 wave is even going to be. Will it truly begin spreading wildly, causing a true spike in the numbers? Or will it just be a blip upwards for a month or so that eventually comes right back down again? Nobody knows, at this point. Because it is still too early to tell.
As I said, I write all of this after getting my own second booster shot (which I would have done no matter what the numbers were doing) and then seeing the news reporting about the pandemic over the past few days. It all left me yearning for the days when there were actual "science reporters" -- journalists with enough mathematical and scientific training to know how to read and interpret a chart of data, in other words -- who would get assigned these stories rather than the news anchors and morning-fluff-news "reporters" who are now covering it. Because if you take the time and look at a few graphs, it's pretty easy to see that there really is no reason for any alarm, at least not yet. Which is a fact notable in its absence from the actual news reports.
-- Chris Weigant
Follow Chris on Twitter: @ChrisWeigant
My check-up says not enough pie
And that's the trouble with our free press not really being free in that they have to attract eyeballs to survive and thrive.
And 4 out of 5 Dentists agree that if it bleeds it leads most reliably attracts those eyeballs.
Get boosted if you can!
There is evidence that the immunity conferred by a first booster starts to wane after about 4-5 months, which is why the recommendation of a 2nd after 6 months. Or possibly this variant evades it somewhat. It seems to have a much shorter exposure time, sometimes just a couple of days. People who had Covid the first time, or one of the other variants, are going down with this variant as well.
Case in point, my OH (pushing 80) contracted this variant a couple of weeks ago, about 5 months after booster 1, along with a lot of other people who had escaped the original covid and first variants. He almost certainly picked it up in a choir rehearsal where everyone was singing unmasked. The good news is that it was no worse than a bad cold and only lasted a few days for him, as for most, but that doesn't mean it isn't dangerous for some. I seem to have escaped this time--I still have about a month to go before booster 2.
(For what it's worth, we both had Covid fairly early on, although because we had the 'wrong' symptoms, no fever in particular, we weren't tested at the time. My OH picked it up at choir or at the last concert before lockdown that time, too; masks weren't generally being worn then. Fortunately, we were not ill enough to need medical care, just go-to-bed ill for a few days. We got confirmation that it was Covid when we took part in a mass test a bit later on which showed we both had disease antibodies.)
Chris's comments on the poor standard of scientific, medical and statistical reporting are spot on. There is rarely a sense of scale and graphs are often distorted or lacking crucial information, even leaving political motivations out. This drives panics over food and other things that 'cause cancer' when a miniscule risk is still miniscule even if it doubles. Sadly, this drives or supports a lot of the anti-vax misinformation.
Bash,
That's moronic. Statistically New York City is way, way down the list on all crime categories, violent and property...
Not factually accurate..
The last 3 years have seen a HUGE explosion of violent crime in NYC.. Each year MUCH worst than the last..
A perfect example of Party dogma blinding you to the FACTS and the reality.. :D
Keep being you, Bash.. It's so cute.. :D
What's covid??
BBWBBWBWBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Democrats will milk this political pandemic for all it's worth, won't they.. :D
I guess that's what happens when a Party doesn't have any competence to run on... They have to invent crisis so they can be seen doing something.
And even their response to their own crisis is incompetent.. :D
Winter's coming...
Republicans slam Biden admin for 'deeply troubling' possibility VA docs could go to border for expected surge
Massive migrant surge expected when Title 42 ends in late May
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cbp-va-border-migrants-title-42-republicans-biden-administration
I am certain the only other veteran here in Weigantia who has worn the uniform will join me in condemning this plan of Biden's to take vital healthcare away from our veterans and use them to treat illegal Democrat voters...
Right??
Think back people..
Remember when "medical science" said that smoking was good for you???
Remember when you were told that masks would actually WORK to stop COVID and that lockdowns were necessary!??
Let's face reality and the facts here..
First off, ya'all aren't listening to science.. Your listening to Democrat "science".. And the ONLY reason you are listening to Democrat "science" is because it suits your political agenda...
This is made obvious by the fact that you are still masking up and taking boosters..
Which is fine.. Personal freedom and all that.. Ya'all can even delude yerselves into thinking it's actually necessary.. Go for it.. :D That's what makes America great..
But don't think for a minute that ya'all are fooling anyone...
COVID is the first political pandemic.. The facts prove this beyond ANY doubt...
And the *ONLY* thing driving Democrat "science" vis a vis COVID are the polls... That's it..
Since really nothing else can be said about COVID beyond that ^^^ I may dabble a bit today...
For example...
Kentucky lawmakers override governor's veto of bill banning transgender athletes from girls' sports
The measure is now law in the state
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kentucky-lawmakers-override-governors-veto-of-bill-banning-transgender-athletes-from-girls-sports
GOOD.. Another win for freedom and fairness in America...
The same Party that gave this country groomers also wants to allow biological men to compete in women's sports..
Thanx to Democrats Womens Swimming is now horribly tainted and it's not worth it for any female to compete in Womens Swimming..
This guy's Womens Swimming records should be stricken from books...
Good for Kentucky....
Oh.... SNAP!!! :D
Biden's approval craters at 33%
Just 26% of independents approve of his job in the White House
39% back his handling of Ukraine and 68% says U.S. should be doing MORE to stop Putin's forces killing civilians in yet another shocking poll.
President Joe Biden's approval rating stands at 33 per cent among American adults in a Quinnipiac University Poll released Wednesday
This is the second time Biden has been rated this low in this particular survey, with the first time occurring in January
The Democratic president is seen in a drastically different light depending on respondents' political affiliation
Twenty-six per cent of independents approve of Biden, along with 76 per cent of Democrats and just 3 per cent of Republicans
Thirty-nine per cent of Americans said they approved of Biden's handling of the response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, while another 48 per cent disapprove
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10716929/Bidens-approval-craters-33.html
For those of you who hold out hope that Democrats will be OK in November??
Allow me to dash them to smithereens! :D
Winter's coming...
The important part of the above is Independents and NPAs.. People like me.. :D
Democrats will vote Democrat.. And GOP will vote Republicans...
It's the Independents and NPAs like me who decide elections..
And things don't look too good for Democrats as far as the Independents and NPAs are concerned.. :D
THE RETURN OF THE JEDI!! :D
Ooooo!!! I like that one..
An Uber Nuclear Shellacking Of BIBLICAL Proportions!!!
I like that one a LOT!!! :D
Let's repeat this for the cheap seats.. :D
“I think this is going to be a biblical disaster. This is the reality we are in as Democrats and no one wants to face it.”
-Democrat Strategist
What *IS* it about Democrats that they can't face inconvenient facts...???
CHEATERS NEVER PROSPER
Betcha'all wish Biden hadn't cheated, eh?? :D
Ya'all are looking at a COMPLETE domination of Congress by the GOP in 2022..
Then, in 2024 the GOP will add to their majority in Congress and President Trump will return triumphantly to the Oval Office...
And the Golden Age of American Ascension will begin anew!! :D
America's future's so bright!! She gots ta wear shades!!! :D
Democrats'?? Meh... Not so much... :D
But hay... There *IS* a silver lining.. :D
Democrats are USED to being uber nuclear shellacked.. :D
So, chin up.. It's just another huge loss in a Party replete with huge losses.. :D
And we're not even to the tough part yet..
Things will REALLY get bad for Democrats once June rolls around.. :D
And the Hunter Biden laptop still continues to be the gift that keeps on giving!! :D
Media Bias and Hunter’s Laptop
The press won’t claw back its credibility until it admits why it buried the story.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/media-spin-hunter-biden-laptop-news-trump-free-speech-censorship-stop-the-steal-big-lie-2020-presidential-election-steele-dossier-11649792758?st=5gzrtddf3gx7mkz&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
I know, I know.. Ya'all wish this would just go away..
But it's not.. Hunter Biden's laptop is going to be gone thru and every little tid bit will be national news!! :D
And what's even better is that it's actually TWO STORIES!!
It's the story of criminality that reaches all the way to Joe Biden his ol' senile and dementia-ridden self...
AND
It's the story of how criminal malfeasance and conspiracy on the part of an unholy trinity of Democrats, Big Media and Big Tech conspired to aid Democrat campaigning by maliciously hiding and burying the FACTS of Hunter Biden's laptop...
It's a toss up as to which will cause MORE damage to Democrats.. :D
But it's all going to be SOOOO EXCITING!!
Played against the backdrop of the upcoming mid-term elections..
Winter's coming...
I LOVE WINTER!! :D
The facts are clear..
Democrats lied to the American people to defeat President Trump...
Big Media lied to the American people to defeat President Trump...
Big Tech lied to the American people to defeat President Trump...
They all LIED to the American people because they knew that the FACTS and the REALITY would elect President Trump...
Garbage In... Garbage Out...
And gods know that we have PLENTY of garbage when Democrats are in charge...
The FACTS prove this beyond ANY doubt...
It's almost as if Democrats WANT an Uber Nuclear Shellacking Of Biblical Proportions!!
Winter's coming...
Chris Wallace reportedly ‘having daily breakdowns’ at CNN , threatens to walk, source says
https://tinyurl.com/3u543e5x
Beware the Ides Of March.... :D
CNN+ BBBWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHA
What a joke...
Air America Part Duex :D
So... Just so we're clear on the Florida Anti-Groomers law...
Ya'all believe that it's PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE that 4, 5 and 6 yr old children be exposed to sexually explicit concepts and content and that they be allowed to choose their own gender..
Due to lack of maturity in making sound decisions, they can't smoke for another 12-14 years and they can't drive for another 10-12 years and they can't drink for another 17-15 years...
But, by gods, ya'all believe that they are mature enough to choose their own gender!!???
Do you see how WHACKED and far off the reservation ya'all Democrats have gone?? :^/
And let's take a break at an even 20.. :D
So, you see MC... I actually DID win the bet we had.. :D
I just chose the wrong minority group.. :D So, except for where I was wrong.. I was right!!! :D
And 2022 is going to be even BETTER for the GOP with the hispanic vote.. :D
Hispanic Americans are leaving the Democrat Party by the 10s of millions!!! :D
Mezzomamma,
Chris's comments on the poor standard of scientific, medical and statistical reporting are spot on.
The last place to check for information on this is the media. The best place is the WHO.
Michale,
There are better places to, ah, "dabble", you know.
The last place to check for information on this is the media. The best place is the WHO.
The WHO.. They were the ones that said COVID was less serious than the seasonal flu..
OK.. Gotcha.. :D
There are better places to, ah, "dabble", you know.
I disagree..
No other place in this universe has you, JL, or MC.. :D
This is the *ONLY* place to dabble.. :D
And speaking of "dabble".. :D
Elon Musk offers to buy Twitter, take it private
Tesla CEO Elon Musk offered to buy Twitter for $54.20 per share
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/elon-musk-offer-buy-twitter-take-it-private
Looks like the Democrats' main Propaganda Outlet is going to disappear!! :D
WOOT!!!!!
Ya'all get to have President Trump back on Twitter!!!
Won't that be EXCITING!!!! :D
I know I'm excited!!! :D
More of your, ah, 'facts', MIchale? That doesn't even make me laugh, anymore ...
More of your, ah, 'facts', MIchale?
Exactly what are you referring to??
I put up so many facts and fact-based opinions, it's impossible to know what you are referencing without a quote..
Help a brother out, eh? :D
Elon Musk scares liberals, Twitter as he pursues free speech
Establishment liberals are not happy, as a recent Washington Post column demonstrates
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/elon-musk-scares-liberals-twitter-free-speech-liz-peek
A scared Democrat is a GOOD thing for this country!! :D
"Musk’s appointment shows that we need regulation of social-media platforms to prevent rich people from controlling our channels of communication."
-WaPo Poophead Ellen Pao
So, she is against rich people controlling channels of communication yet she spews this Democrat crap will working for a .... you guessed it.. a rich person who controls our channels of communication...
What *IS* it about Democrats that they are such hypocrites???
Any problems with the FACTS??? Anyone?? Anyone??
Musk doesn't have **ANY** problem with bitch-slapping Democrats who push their anti-America crap...
That's what's to love about Elon Musk... :D
Again.. If there are issues with the FACTS.. I'll be happy to address them.. :D
A man after my own heart!! :D
"69.42% of statistics are false." Yes, "facts" are not always what they seem and "misinformation" is often in the eye of the beholder. Claims by dozens of former intelligence officials, for instance, that Hunter Biden’s laptop was likely Russian "disinformation" turned out to be … disinformation."
-Elon Musk
Democrats are spewing disinformation all the time..
From their Global Warming Con to their COVID BS to their Russia Collusion Delusion to their Hunter Biden Laptop Conspiracy to their 2020 election was fair and legal...
All Democrats HAVE is disinformation.. And very little in the way of actual FACTS...
And ya'all think it perfectly hunky dory to ban FACTS from social media.. JUST because the FACTS don't fit the Democrat Party agenda...
How sad is that?? :^/
The facts are ALL there, people...
But there are none so blind as those who will not see... :^/
Of course, of course.. There will be those who claim they don't even read the facts..
What they are REALLY saying is that the wallow in ignorance... And they ENJOY it!!! :^/
Every instance of censorship and ban on social media benefits the Democrat Party agenda..
Why is that??
Because these social media assholes are in bed with the Democrat Party..
Second Texas bus drops off migrants near US Capitol in Washington, DC
The migrants are from Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba and Colombia, one man said
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/second-texas-bus-migrants-near-us-capitol-washington-dc
So much for Saki's claim that it was nothing but a publicity stunt and it would never actually happen!!! :D
Let Democrats in DC deal with the illegal immigrants..
Joe Biden.. Weak Leader... :^/
Poor old Kentucky Democrat Governor.. He just CAN'T catch a break!! :D
Kentucky legislature overrides Beshear's veto on abortion bill, shuttering abortion facilities for now
Planned Parenthood and the ACLU announced they would sue to block the law
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kentucky-legislature-overrides-veto-on-abortion-bill-shuttering-abortion-facilities-for-now
Nobody listens to a Democrat Gov any more.. :D
Over EIGHTY PERCENT of Americans support abortion restrictions...
This is a losing cause for Democrats..
Yet, they persist... Their agenda is more important to them than the American people...
Senility and Dementia amongst Democrats..
Colleagues worry Dianne Feinstein is now mentally unfit to serve, citing recent interactions
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/dianne-feinstein-senate-17079487.php
Apparently, it's a wide spread problem.. :D
Michale,
I put up so many facts and fact-based opinions, it's impossible to know what you are referencing without a quote..
Actually, it's not only possible, it's as easy as pie. ;)
Actually, it's not only possible, it's as easy as pie. ;)
Reading your mind?? Hardly :D
The rise of the liberal groomer
Not every desire deserves to be empowered
https://unherd.com/2022/04/the-rise-of-the-liberal-groomer/
Nobody here wants to go on record as supporting Democrat Party grooming of 4, 5 and 6 year olds??
"Gee!! I wonder why that is!!??"
-Kevin Spacey, THE NEGOTIATOR
:^/
“It really got driven home to me my first year here in Tampa when I got the job (as head coach of the Buccaneers). Legendary man here by the name of Abe Brown. Many of you know the name Abe Brown. He had a prison ministry. He wanted me to go with him, and I went on the first trip expecting to see grizzled, hard, tough older guys, and what I met were 19- and 20- and 21-year-old kids who looked like my boys.
“And I remember driving home from that trip and asking Reverend Brown, ‘How do those young boys get here?’ And he told me it’s not socioeconomic. It’s not racial. It’s not education — none of that. Ninety-five percent of these boys did not grow up with their dad. And that hit me.”
-Tony Dungy
Well said, sir..
If Democrats *REALLY* want to help black Americans..
They can quit trying to destroy the traditional family...
For those who claim that NYC is not a 3rd world shithole with rampant violent crime??
NYC Mayor Eric Adams calls out Black Lives Matter after spate of shootings: 'We can't be hypocrites'
NYC suffered six shootings in as many hours Tuesday night
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nyc-eric-adams-black-lives-matter-shootings-hypocrites
The facts show otherwise...
When referencing all the scary statistics of "COVID deaths" in the U.S., it's important to remember that slightly over 8000 Americans die of some cause or other every single day, pandemic or no pandemic.
CRS,
Troo... But only the ones that can be used to Democrats' political agenda have any import..
American deaths that are inconvenient or contradict the Democrat agenda are ignored..
Yes, Democrats.. Please PLEASE listen to Shrillary and Odumbo!! They can make everything better for Democrats!! :D
Not factually accurate..
The last 3 years have seen a HUGE explosion of violent crime in NYC.. Each year MUCH worst than the last..
incorrect, unless you meant to say that the above statement is not factually accurate. NYC felony statistics have all been way down from 184,652 at the turn of the millenium to a low of 95,593 in 2020. it takes some very creative innumeracy to interpret any part of that trend as a "HUGE explosion"
if you want to make a fantastical assertion regarding NYC crime statistics that actually IS supported by those facts, try suggesting that crime in NYC was so LOW specifically because of the brilliant leadership of Donald J. Trump.
JL
incorrect, unless you meant to say that the above statement is not factually accurate. NYC felony statistics have all been way down from 184,652 at the turn of the millenium to a low of 95,593 in 2020. it takes some very creative innumeracy to interpret any part of that trend as a "HUGE explosion"
Yes, if you go back to the late 90s when crime was REALLY low under Guiliani...
But it's a FACT that violent crime stats for the last 3 years have gotten progressively worse...
@m,
what actual numbers support that assertion?
In the two years since the Police Department’s last full briefing on crime statistics, pockets of New York have seen upticks in shootings and murders, underscoring concern that America’s most populous city could be headed backward.
Mayor Eric Adams has made reversing that trend the central goal of his administration.
“The N.Y.P.D. will use every resource and opportunity to secure this city,” Commissioner Sewell said, but “reversing years will not take weeks.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/nyregion/shootings-new-york-city-safety.html
Michale [53]
From your link:
Gun violence hit historic lows in 2018 and 2019. Even with recent increases, rates of shootings, felony assaults and overall major crimes are similar to or below the levels of the late 2000s and early 2010s. There have been nine fewer murders this year compared with the same period last year.
That link does not back up your argument...
Gun violence hit historic lows in 2018 and 2019.
And has been RISING since then... The last 3 years..
AS I SAID...
The link EXACTLY backs up my argument....
Thank you for pointing that out..
The link EXACTLY backs up my argument....
No, a minor uptick is not a "HUGE explosion"...
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So, you see MC... I actually DID win the bet we had.. :D
I just chose the wrong minority group.. :D So, except for where I was wrong.. I was right!!! :D
You still screwed CW and continue to pollute Weigantia. I'd say shame on you but you don't care about things like honesty and honor.
All I have in this world is my balls and my word, and I don't break 'em for no one!
Tony Montaña
SCARFACE
No, a minor uptick is not a "HUGE explosion"...
So, you concede that violent crime has RISEN the last 3 years..
AS I STATED..
Thank you.. I accept your concession.. :D
You still screwed CW and
Turnaround is fair play...
continue to pollute Weigantia.
With FACTS... And Reality.. If that's your definition of "pollute"... Everyone knows Democrats like to change definitions that don't fit their agenda.. :^/
I'd say shame on you but you don't care about things like honesty and honor.
Democrat "honor" and "honesty" is like Democrat "science"... It doesn't mean what you want people to believe it means..
A Democrat calling me dishonest and dishonorable is actually a badge of honor... Reality and facts wise..
what actual numbers support that assertion?
The facts..
I know, I know.. You can't concede the facts.. But they are factual nonetheless...
Major Crimes Increase In 2022 Compared To 2021
Major Crimes Increase In 2021 Compared To 2020
Murder Rose by Almost 30% in 2020. It’s Rising at a Slower Rate in 2021.
DeSantis signs 15-week abortion ban into law
Pro-life activists shared stories of regretted abortions and adoptions of children who survived attempted abortions
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-florida-abortion-ban-15-weeks
Governor DeSantis is doing such an AWESOME job!!! :D
So, you concede that violent crime has RISEN the last 3 years..
Move those goal posts! Heh...
Thank you.. I accept your concession.. :D
You forgot to specify what concession: peanuts, popcorn beer...
My statement was violent crime has risen the last 3 years in NYC..
The FACTS prove this is the case..
Those were the goal posts.. Don't blame me because you keep missing them.. :D
Crime in NYC has RISEN the past 3 years..
This is supported by the FACTS...
Once again, I accept your concession Bash.. :D
The last 3 years have seen a HUGE explosion of violent crime in NYC.. Each year MUCH worst than the last..
Followed by:
My statement was violent crime has risen the last 3 years in NYC..
That's some serious goal post moving back peddling you got there...
And still does not counter my point that NYC is way way down on the list of crime statistics for American cities.
Your point has nothing to do with my point..
Crime has risen in NYC the last 3 years..
This is fact... Each year, the rising crime gets worse..
You can tap dance and argue what the definition of 'is' is until yer blue.. Yer a Democrat after all.. It's what you do..
But the fact is crime has risen in NYC the last 3 years..
FACT..
Granderson: Keep saying 'gay,' despite new legislation. Kids need to hear it
https://news.yahoo.com/granderson-keep-saying-gay-despite-145720580.html
Of course, the Groomer Party AKA The Democrat Party wants to continue to groom 4 5 and 6 yr olds for their own depraved agenda.. :^/
Your point has nothing to do with my point..
Or your original point, or my reply, or your reply to my reply...
Yes, we agree.. Your point has nothing to do with anything..
Typical..
Once again.. I accept your concession..
Yes, we agree.. Your point has nothing to do with anything..
No, that would be your newest revised point.
Once again.. I accept your concession..
And once again: peanuts, popcorn, beer...
@m,
Politicians and pundits all have their reasons for where and when they start to count, but to me the numbers look less like an explosion and more like a regression to the mean. The reason I think that is that there's no consistency across categories. Murder went up, rape went down, etc.
JL,
Feel free to spin it as you wish..
But the FACTS are that crime has risen in NYC for the past 3 years..
ADD that to the FACT that crime has ALSO risen in other Democrat big cities and a pattern emerges..
The Democrat Party.. The Cop Hate Party... The Pro Criminal Party... The Groomer Party...
Simply CANNOT govern..
@m,
you're cherry-picking isolated facts and making a claim that isn't even supported by that limited sample. the full data set is here:
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/crime-statistics/historical.page