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Republicans Want You To Pay More Tax!

[ Posted Tuesday, April 19th, 2022 – 15:51 UTC ]

Yesterday I wrote in support of what Senator Elizabeth Warren is calling on her fellow Democrats to do (essentially: pass whatever Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema can agree to, and get Biden to issue a few impactful executive orders). Today I thought taking a look at what Democrats should be saying about their opponents would be a good follow-up, as the midterm campaign season heats up.

This could always change, of course, but right now the smart bet would be to paint the entire Republican Party with the brush that Senator Rick Scott -- the man in charge of the Senate caucus tasked with getting more Republicans elected -- has so helpfully provided. This effort has already begun, and it hopefully will grow a lot bigger over time. Because for once, the path forward for Democratic messaging is about as clear as it can be.

Scott released his very own Republican agenda, to show the voters what he would prioritize if the GOP retook control of the Senate. This was a rebuke to the actual Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, who is betting on Republicans being able to run without ever hinting at what they'll do if they get to take charge again. This offended Scott's sensibilities, because he still believes that politicians should indeed level with the voters about what their party is about. Most of the rest of Republicans these days are content to just be against everything Democrats are attempting to accomplish, while only speaking of cultural hot-button issues when asked what they'd actually do if they got back into power. But Scott rejected this and put forth his own plan. Salon snarked about the title of this sweeping document: "For some reason [Senator Rick] Scott dispensed with a hyphen in the title of his '11 Point Plan to Rescue America' -- is punctuation 'woke' now? It's so hard to keep up," but the contents are anything but laughable.

There's a mishmash of red meat for the rightwing Republican base in the plan (of course), which reads almost like a lefty attempting to write a farcical parody of a GOP platform document. That was to be expected in any such document from the Republicans these days. But there are two enormous issues included which are unbelievably ripe for Democrats to use as bludgeons against pretty much every Republican running for office this year. They can be summed up as: "Republicans want to tax the poor and working class," and "Republicans are trying to abolish Social Security and Medicare." As politically-potent arguments come, those two are real doozies.

Let's take a look at how easy it is to stand strong against the first of these. For once, the White House did a fairly good job of messaging, in a statement from Biden which was released on Tax Day. It begins by drawing a pretty good contrast between Biden and the Democrats and what Rick Scott wants his party to do:

This Tax Day, the difference in approach between the President and Congressional Republicans couldn't be clearer. The President is fighting for tax cuts for the middle class and to ensure that the super wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share, while Congressional Republicans, led by Senator [Rick] Scott, are proposing big tax increases on middle-class families.

President Biden's plan would give tax relief to tens of millions of families -- continuing the tax relief families are seeing this Tax Day -- and he'd apply new minimum taxes on billionaires and large corporations to make sure they're paying their fair share. He wouldn't raise taxes by a penny on anyone making less than $400,000.

In contrast, Congressional Republicans would continue the big handouts they've given to the richest Americans and largest corporations and implement a Middle-Class Tax Increase. Congressional Republicans' plan will increase middle-class families' taxes an average of nearly $1,500 this year alone and take $100 billion out of the hands of middle-class families each year.

That's about as succinct a political case as you can make. Creating campaign slogans from it would be pathetically easy, in fact: "Tax the billionaires and corporations, NOT the middle class!" Biden later provides some greater detail, for Democrats everywhere to begin using in their ads (emphasis in original):

After delivering almost $2 trillion in tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and largest corporations with their 2017 tax law, Congressional Republicans, led by Senator Rick Scott, are following up by proposing $100 billion per year in tax increases on middle-class families. According to independent analysis, around 75 million American families -- 96 percent of them making less than $100,000 -- would pay an average of $1,480 more in taxes each year. The Republican plan doesn't raise a single penny in taxes from the wealthiest Americans or profitable corporations.

  • 24 million families of seniors making less than $100,000 per year would face tax increases.
  • Another 24 million families with kids making less than $100,000 per year would face tax increases.

In 2017 the Republicans delivered an average tax cut of over $250,000 a year to families in the top .1%; now they want working families to pay $100 billion more in taxes each year. Republicans complain that middle-class Americans don't have "skin in the game" and don't pay enough in taxes. But the truth is that middle-class Americans are the back bone [sic] of our economy, pay plenty in federal, state, and local taxes, and in many cases pay a higher rate than the super-wealthy.

Again, the slogans just write themselves: "Democrats want to raise taxes on the rich -- Republicans want to raise taxes on YOU!"

The second bludgeon Democrats should be swinging with abandon is that Scott's plan would force Congress to vote to renew every single federal law, every five years. Not to put too fine a point on it, but this is insane. The phrase that springs to mind metaphorically refers to the offal of flying mammals, in fact. That's how crazy a proposal this truly is.

Imagine Congress having to clear the hurdle of renewing every single federal law and program there is -- not just once, but over and over again. Now imagine the usual pace of legislating in Congress these days. As you can see, these two images are in complete contradiction with each other. Which means a whole lot of federal laws would get left by the wayside. Which Democrats are eager to point out. From Biden's statement:

Not only that -- but the Republican plan would eliminate Social Security and Medicare. The President believes we have a sacred commitment to our nation's seniors, while the Republican plan puts that at risk.

. . .

It's not just that -- the Republican plan calls for expiring all laws, including Social Security and Medicare, after 5 years. That means Social Security and Medicare would be eliminated, unless Congress could enact them again. That's wrong. The President believes these programs are sacred commitments. They should be strengthened -- not threatened.

This fits in neatly with the Republican Party's longstanding opposition to both programs (and Medicaid, to boot). They have proven time and time again they consider Social Security and Medicare "socialism," all the way back to when the programs were enacted. Rick Scott's plan to sunset any legislation that can't get a vote in the Senate is a direct attack on these two programs, plain and simple.

On this one, the slogans don't just write themselves, they were actually written a long time ago and have to be dusted off occasionally, with each new Republican attack on Social Security and Medicare.

Some Democrats might shy away from making such a frontal attack on Republicans at large. This would be a mistake. This would be bringing not a knife to a gunfight, but boxing gloves instead. Republicans are never shy about painting the entire Democratic Party with the broad brush of the most extreme positions within the party. Just look at how successfully they've beaten up Democrats over bugaboos like "defund the police" and "open borders" if you need proof. Very few Democrats still support the "defund the police" slogan, but Republicans don't care -- they are happy to smear any Democrat as if it were official party policy (which it is not). And Republicans have never had to name any Democrats who strongly support the concept of "open borders" (which would be hard because they don't really exist), but they still use the phrase as often as they can to scare the voters. These are the rules of the game now, and Democrats can either learn to play by them or learn to enjoy losing elections.

If Republican candidates claim not to support Scott's plan, smear them anyway. "This is the only Republican senator willing to level with the public on what the party's agenda is -- and candidate Jones would support his party in the Senate. Don't let Scott even have a chance of passing his dangerous and extreme agenda -- vote Democratic instead!" If they complain that the plan doesn't actually lay out the details the Democrats are quoting in their ads, then ask why Scott hasn't released any details. To force "everyone to have some skin in the game" -- a phrase right out of the Scott plan -- means raising taxes on a whole bunch of people who don't pay any income taxes right now because they don't make enough money. It doesn't even matter what the actual details are, that is "taxing the poor" and "taxing the working class" pretty much by definition. Likewise, any denial that sunsetting all federal laws every five years is a direct attack on Social Security and Medicare should be met with scorn. Scathing derision. Incredulous scoffing at any other possible explanation.

Of course, these aren't the only attacks Democrats should be flinging at Republicans. Sunsetting all federal laws would mean a whole bunch of other important laws that most voters care deeply about would also be at risk. This is an enormous list that can be mined later in the campaign. Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post would also have Democrats expand the attacks to include what Republicans have already shown they are both for and against:

Democrats might want to remind voters that Republicans opposed raising any taxes on corporations, even on those that pay zero dollars in federal taxes; passing a $35 cap on insulin and a plan to allow Medicare to negotiate prescription drugs prices; funding to allow schools to reopen quickly and safely; and shoring up state financing to keep cops, firefighters and other state and local personnel on the payroll. Plus, most Republicans -- including 200 House members and 30 senators -- opposed the hugely popular infrastructure package. In short, they are willing to help the super-rich and big corporations but virtually no one else.

. . .

Republicans also prefer to waste time on extreme schemes to solve fake issues instead of focusing on real problems. Where's their inflation plan? Their energy plan? Their crime plan? Their education plan? Instead, they're passing legislation to allow concealed gun possession without a license, harassing businesses and families, attempting to ban math books, and excising civil rights history from the classroom.

The good news in all of this is that Democrats already seem to be embracing this rather large political gift that Rick Scott has given them. Billboards have gone up in Florida (Scott's home state) and television ads are already running. But this needs to go far beyond Florida. So far Democrats have done a pretty weak job of defining their opponents, which is strange since the Republican Party has gone so coo-coo-bananas of late. Democrats should make Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz the face of the Republican Party in the same way they have somewhat-successfully made Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the face of the Democrats. But the opportunity that Rick Scott has handed Democrats simply cannot be ignored. So for any Democratic candidate or elected official facing re-election that is wondering what campaign slogans they should run on, this would be the perfect starting place: Republicans want to raise your taxes and end Social Security, while Democrats will fight hard to make sure neither of those things happens.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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66 Comments on “Republicans Want You To Pay More Tax!”

  1. [1] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    FPC

    [63]

    Michale wrote,

    Let me be clear — Chauvin did a huge disservice to all police that day with his failure to demonstrate any semblance of compassion or concern for Floyd’s well-being. But we must allow the science and the evidence to dictate whether we have met all the criteria necessary for indicting individuals on criminal charges. It’s easy to hate Chauvin and want him to pay after seeing Floyd’s death occur under Chauvin’s knee.

    The DA’s prosecution was done in an apparent attempt to avoid more public outrage and destruction. The people were calling for the head’s of the officers involved, and, sadly, those in charge gave into the politics at the cost of the law.

    I appreciate you making this essential distinction between what LEO'S face and this one particular incident where Offcr. Chauvin exhibited bad judgement.

    This buoys my hope that you may NOT necessarily "blindly LEO" but are attempting to put my/our feet into a LEO'S shoes.

    As such, good deal! That's what i hope you will help me with.

    Meanwhile I'm analyzing the Grand Rapids case and will seek your feedback forthwith. I'll do this to continue the dialogue that we both have given to this particular situation, fair enough?

    BTW kudo for less boldified right-wing quotes. I believe I read all of the above "spew" word for word. That doesn't mean I agree with any of all of it but it does mean I'm much more likely to read it.

  2. [2] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [2]

    Fredo wrote,

    But if you're still sticking with the Deathocrats I have nice bridge here to sell you....... :D

    And if you believe that your OD crusade has had the slightest effect on solving our big money in politics problem then I have no bridge to sell you that could replace the bridge you've already undeniably bought.

  3. [3] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    You have not moved the needle one iota. But it's everybody else's fault, of course.*smh*

  4. [4] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    And there it is, Weigantians! Your one-stop shopping blanket reply to poor Fredo. I think it sums the situation up with far more brevity than should be legal.

    Y'all are-- er, All y'all are welcome!

    Help me, #FloridaMan -- is that good southern?

  5. [5] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    So.

    Let's try it out...

    And if you believe that your OD crusade has had the slightest effect on solving our big money in politics problem then I have no bridge to sell you that could replace the bridge you've already undeniably bought.

    You have not moved the needle one iota. But it's everybody else's fault, of course.*smh*

    There! Covers the main points while not dipping into the endless particulars. Ahem.

  6. [6] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    I'm your Huckleberry.

    Doc Holiday
    TOMBSTONE

    Of course One Demand has not had any effect on big money in politics. I never claimed it has. WHICH begs the question, isn't that what your goal is? Aren't you trying to spread the word that One Demand can/could/will address this problem? I was NOT doing anything but asking, "don't you want OD to fix this problem?" As you obviously want to accomplish just that (right?) my observation that you've not moved the needle in that better direction is meant to say, Hey! This is important enough that you should change your game plan to something (anything!) that works better than what you've done to date.

  7. [7] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Moving right along...

    Nothing can make a difference until it is tried. OKAY, besides stupid shit like buying Nikes and black Sweats and killing ourselves because the Mothership just might be waiting to pick us up? I mean, we won't know unless we try, right?

    C'mon, you make killer political jokes so we know you have the brains. You can offer better logic than this.

  8. [8] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    So One Demand has still been more effective than voting for big money candidates as voting for big money candidates has consistently and without exception made things worse.

    So, an imaginary concept that doesn't exist is better than [fill in the blank]?

    Well, I'll see your imaginary world and raise you to my imaginary John Lennon Unicorn Give Peace a Chance.

    Huh! Has the same imaginary impact on reality.

  9. [9] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Ah, the epic failings of the revolutionary without a chance. Don, you are foaming at the mouth to the point I might suggest a rabies shot...

  10. [10] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    How is voting for big money candidates that hasn't worked for decades going to work now or in the next ten years to get the big money out of politics?

    Hmmm. I'd start with being aware of the significant differences between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.

    Yup, I agreed with Ralph back in the day, hello?

    BUT you've never acknowledged that just because both parties are owned by big money doesn't mean that working with the one side that has at least SOME talent (Kucinich, Feingold, Bernie and Elizabeth -- NOT fucking Clinton(s) and Obama!) and sentiment to form a more perfect [free of big money] union versus the other side doesn't make a difference. Because it does. At least some Dem Presidential candidates refused PAC money/dark money contributions and emphasized (and were rewarded by) small money donors.)

    Don, we go to war with the army [political system] that we have. To toss every last baby out with the bathwater because they're incapable of doing better under the circumstances simply hurts your credibility.

    Noone has ever accepted chaos over even the worst present circumstances!

  11. [11] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [17]

    Yeah, I wonder what the heck is wrong with him. Here I am, sincerely addressing him point by point, and I'm not really feeling that he's doing anything to reply in kind. I don't understand -- it's like his brain just goes.

  12. [12] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    And this shit doesn't exactly leap onto my cracked smartphone. The effort is my pleasure* but not so much when I'm seemingly wasting my time.

    *Elizabeth, I am here to educate. Both YOU but more importantly, ME. That's why I'm still prepping my reply to Lizsplaining Ukraine (the more I research the more my view shifts in light of new info, imagine that.) That's also why I'm pursuing detente with Michale -- I've been looking for a cogent Conservative to make me a better Liberal by exploding Libtard bullshit if and when it occurs. I'm also developing our dialogue on the recent law enforcement news out of Grand Rapids.

  13. [13] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    And, folks...I'll sprinkle in plenty of links to illuminate.

    LIKE THIS, on a completely unrelated topic, Michale (there will be a pop quiz!) What it's like to be black in America… Beau (8:55)

  14. [14] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Might as well take my own advice,

    And if you believe that your OD crusade has had the slightest effect on solving our big money in politics problem then I have no bridge to sell you that could replace the bridge you've already undeniably bought.

    You have not moved the needle one iota. But it's everybody else's fault, of course.*smh*

  15. [15] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [19]

    If everyone else is allowed to continue to agitate for the purpose of causing trouble and trying to make it unpleasant for me to comment here as they please then I can make it unpleasant for the rest of you how I please.

    Okay, Mr. Future Red Card ;P

  16. [16] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    *sigh*

    I miss you Kick.

    Sure, I have my moments but you're simply better at this than am I.

  17. [17] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Michale,

    I know today is that special day in April. So please be a mensch and convey my Sieg Heil! to all your buddies "on the right," so to speak.

  18. [18] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    When you're the fair and balanced voice that you are you get middleman duty from time to time.

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yes, it was a tragedy. No, the officer did not kill an innocent child. He killed a young man who had been pointing what his random victims believed was a small handgun at their heads as they passed him in the park. Rice was laughing at the terrified reactions he could illicit.

    Tamir Rice was a 12yr old kid...

    I think this again simply shows a generational disparity between you and I..

    In your world, 12 year olds can be thugs and dangerous criminals.. Just as, in your world, 4 5 and 6 yr olds should be learning that yes, they can choose their gender if their current gender bores them..

    In my world, kids are innocent until about 16/17 and kindergartners should be playing with wooden blocks, not DNA blocks..

    This is not a knock against you.. It's a knock against the society that the Democrat Party has created in the here and now..

    It's nice to see the anti-BLM and pro-LEO passion in you..

    I wish we could see it more often.. :D

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    Is that specific enough for you?

    The specifics you give are equal to the specifics you get

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    And because the police should not be held responsible for a person’s medical conditions that they had no idea existed, it is ridiculous to think the officers in Floyd’s case deserve to be charged.

    There is only ONE reason why the officers were charged..

    Because Floyd was black..

    Period. End Trans.

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    And in the GEE I WONDER WHY THAT IS department..

    BLM silent when confronted with data showing massive 2020 spike in Black murder victims

    Black murders spiked by 32% in 2020 compared to 2019, and by 43% that year compared to the 10-year average.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/black-lives-matter-silent-2020-black-murder-spike-experts-blm-defund-contributed

    BLM is THE worst thing that has happened to black Americans and the Democrat Party since slavery..

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    Another outright lie.

    Nope.. The honest facts..

    If you can't ask specific questions, you won't get specific answers..

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    Elon Musk rips Netflix for 'woke mind virus' making it 'unwatchable' as shares nosedive

    Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk, who's been gearing to take Twitter private, slammed Netflix as it lost subscribers for first time in over a decade
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/elon-musk-netflix-woke-mind-virus-unwatchable

    WOOT!!!!

    Elon is Anti-Woke!!

    Woo Hoo!!! :D

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    Will the 2022 Election Be a Teachable Moment for the Democrats?

    It’s Certainly Looking Like It Should Be
    https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/will-the-2022-election-be-a-teachable?s=r

    The problem is, Democrats keep drawing the WRONG message from all their losses..

    Democrats believe that they are just not articulating their policies properly..

    When the FACTS clearly show that it's Democrat POLICIES that Americans don't like.

    DEFUND THE POLICE

    DE-FACTO OPEN BORDERS

    INDOCTRINATION INSTEAD OF EDUCATION

    PARENTS HAVE NO SAY IN EDUCATION

    And so on and so on and so on..

    It's not that Americans are getting the message..

    Americans ARE getting the message..

    Americans simply don't like what the message says..

    It's really THAT simple..

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    The proof is in the comments.

    Comments that you cannot provide any specifics on.. Specific quotes etc etc that supports your claims..

    Come on Weigantia, give Michale a hearty cheer. He has won!

    I accept your concession.. :D

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    BLM’s Anti-Police Racket Is Coming Undone

    The organization has squandered its moral authority by acting like a hustler on the make.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/blm-antipolice-racket-black-lives-matter-mansion-purchase-donations-corruption-police-brutality-shooting-floyd-systemic-racism-antiracist-equity-racial-justice-11650404503?st=6xoq8alzwsylpd7&reflink=desktopwebshare_permal

    Same could be said for The Democrat Party...

  28. [28] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [44]

    Does that mean I have to switch [31] to convey my hearty cheer?

    I'm so confused! (Cue Don...)

  29. [29] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [45]

    WSJ articles hide behind a paywall and are useless.

    We wouldn't want anyone audience that you don't actually read the links you post, right?

  30. [30] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    You are so stupid you even parody yourself without knowing it.

    Again professor, glass houses.

  31. [31] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yeah, well, it's the old Republican cult of economic failure, again.

  32. [32] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [42]

    That Liberal Patriot link was a good (if disheartening) read. And hence an aid to my understanding.

    Please post them in the above manner so they're easier to reference should anyone come back to reread it.

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    DH,

    Again you repeat the lie that I did not provide specifics.

    It's only a lie if you can PROVE it's a lie..

    To date, you have been unable to provide such proof so it stands as factual..

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Yeah, well, it's the old Republican cult of economic failure, again.

    And yet, it's been Democrats who are governing over the biggest rise in inflation since the LAST time Democrats presided over gross inflation, eh?

    Seems like the facts prove it's DEMOCRATS who are economic failures... :D

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    Please post them in the above manner so they're easier to reference should anyone come back to reread it.

    "One is honored to be of service."
    -Robin Williams, BICENTENNIAL MAN

    :D

  36. [36] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    What is causing the current inflation rate, Michale?

    Here is yet another example proving how important it is to be able to discern one situation from another.

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    What is causing the current inflation rate, Michale?

    Democrat mismanagement, political mismanagement of COVID and throwing away America's energy independence..

    Take your pick..

    The economic mess we are in today is one of Democrats' making..

    Ya'all can't blame this one on President Trump..

    It's ALL Biden and the Democrats..

  38. [38] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Michale [57]

    But has nothing to do with war, COVID and the chinese lock downs making chip shortages, Shipping companies leaving their containers in less than useful places because it was cheaper. If it's all Democrats fault then why is the rest of the world also having similar levels of inflation?

    It's like you run on a variation of chaos theory: if a butterfly flaps it's wings somewhere on earth, it must be Joe Biden's fault...

  39. [39] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Has our rebel without a clue petered out for the afternoon? Dude needs some serious help with the anger management...

  40. [40] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @bashi,

    You're reminding me of into the great wide open. Love that song

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bashi,

    Inflation was a problem before Putin started building up forces for the Ukraine war.. Nice try.

    COVID hasn't been an issue since 2020.. Democrats' mismanagement and fear mongering made it worse..

    Put the blame on anyone but Democrats, eh? It's not going to work..

    Biden and the Democrats OWN this crappy economy.. As will be evidenced by the coming Democrat massacre in November..

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    I did prove it by referring to the comments where the proof is.

    And yet, you cannot PROVIDE that specific proof.. Why is that???

    It's not my job to search a lengthy comment for your "proof", if it even exists..

    QUOTE your proof.. Or STFU..

  43. [43] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    Inflation was a problem before Putin started building up forces for the Ukraine war.. Nice try.

    So, you don't think this ridiculous war in Ukraine is adding more inflationary rippling impacts throughout the world, in addition to all that was contributing to inflation before the war?

  44. [44] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [67]

    Step. Away.

    From the bottle.

  45. [45] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    When treated properly I can be very nice.

    AKA, heaped with praise...

    When assholes act like children and troll, lie and dodge despite every effort to give them the opportunity to act reasonable then I treat them as they deserve to be treated.

    All other times...

    Read your own posts sometime. You act like a Tourettes sufferer who just discovered meth...

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    You are just pretending I did not provide proof and/or what I want answered because you are too much of a coward and child to answer because you know you can't honestly answer without admitting you are full of shit.

    It's very easy to prove I am full of shit..

    Simply re-provide the proof you allegedly provided..

    The fact that you are getting hysterical INSTEAD of redundantly providing proof indicates you have NOT provided the proof..

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, you don't think this ridiculous war in Ukraine is adding more inflationary rippling impacts throughout the world, in addition to all that was contributing to inflation before the war?

    Oh sure, it's exacerbating the problem.. No doubt about it.

    But it was Biden and the Democrats who CREATED the problem that Putin's war is exacerbating..

    And, you and I are in agreement that it was within Biden's/Democrat's power to stop the war or end it before inflation got this bad..

    So, no matter HOW you want to slice it, Biden and the Democrats OWN this problem.

  48. [48] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [67-69]

    In that case...

    Step. Away.

    From the newly discovered meth.;D

  49. [49] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Inflation was a problem before Putin started building up forces for the Ukraine war.. Nice try.

    Of course it was. Chinese chip shortage, shipping container mismanagement. Plus all the government spending is certainly having an effect, but that's a 50/50 as both administrations had large spending bills to deal with the pandemic. Much like 2008, where Bush started the chain of bills and bail outs and Obama continued on.

    COVID hasn't been an issue since 2020.. Democrats' mismanagement and fear mongering made it worse..

    Tell that to the Chinese who have cities accounting for about 50% of China's total economic output currently have some sort of lockdown measure in place.

    Put the blame on anyone but Democrats, eh? It's not going to work..

    No, put blame where it belongs, not just on the democrats. Everyone plays a part is this play, democrats included...

  50. [50] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    So, you are naturally foul mouthed? And do tell, how has that worked out for you over the course of your life? Could it be your problems are not big money politicians but yourself?

  51. [51] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    No I am not naturally foul-mouthed. But it is an appropriate reaction to you acting like an asshole whether you are naturally one or worked hard to become one.

    Not if you want to succeed in the public sphere...

    I guess you have accepted you will never get further there. So, carry on...

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    Tell that to the Chinese who have cities accounting for about 50% of China's total economic output currently have some sort of lockdown measure in place.

    Which simply means that the Chinese are just as dumb and power-mad as the Democrats..

    No, put blame where it belongs, not just on the democrats. Everyone plays a part is this play, democrats included...

    Yea?? How is any of the this the GOP's fault?? Democrats have a total lock on government..

    Democrats are in charge...

    I get why you want to pass the buck, but the buck stops with Biden.. He's said so on MANY occasions..

    It's probably the ONLY thing he has gotten right in his whole disastrous rule as POTUS..

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    It seems according to definitions that refusing to REDUNDANTLY provide proof actually indicates that proof was provided.

    According to YOU, proof was provided..

    You have no facts to support that claim..

    How many comments have you stated that proof was provided..

    IF that is accurate, wouldn't it be so much easier to just provide the proof??

    Why are you dancing so??

    Simply provide the proof of your specific questions..

  54. [54] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Yea?? How is any of the this the GOP's fault?? Democrats have a total lock on government..

    Uh...three sentences up from what you quoted, minus the italics sections, of course...

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden caves!!! :D

    More Democrats sound the alarm as White House plans to scrap Title 42

    A growing number of Democrats are breaking with Biden on Title 42 support as migrants continue to cross into US
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-sound-alarm-white-house-plans-scrap-title-42

    Amazing...

    Biden's handlers actually did something smart!!

    Amazing...

  56. [56] 
    Michale wrote:

    DH

    So... STILL no facts to support yer claim..

    Got it..

  57. [57] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    But lots of canned laughter. Maybe time for the little white van and butterfly nets?

  58. [58] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    I'm not the one acting like a raving lunatic...

  59. [59] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Don,

    Where is your response to that?

    I see you can't put an end to your unnecessary, gratuitous name calling and foul language, so ...

  60. [60] 
    Michale wrote:

    Disney's gonna learn...

    Florida Senate passes bill stripping Disney of special self-governing power

    The bill now moves to the Florida House
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-stripping-disney-of-special-self-governing-power-passes-florida-senate

    BUTT OUT of politics..

    The overwhelming majority of Floridians, INCLUDING DEMOCRATS support the FL Anti-Grooming law...

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    DH

    And still you do anything, SAY anything to avoid posting your proof..

    Yer only embarrassing yerself further, son.. :^/

  62. [62] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Don,

    Ted Cruz is already having fantasies...

    I guess he is trying to one up Tucker Carlson's M&M fetish.

  63. [63] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    It does make one wonder if the Florida law protects the kiddos from chocosexualuality and the chocosexual lifestyle...

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    DH,

    So, in other words, you have NOTHING to back up ANY of your claims..

    Which has been the story of your life since you came to Weigantia.. :^/

  65. [65] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Chocolate can be an excellent addition as an ingredient in pie. The insistence of the establishment that chocolate is just for cake has been a weight on our social fabric for decades. How can all of you motherbakers ignore such a pressing need? I'm disappointed in all of you for piteous pielessness.

    Get pie.

  66. [66] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    MtnCaddy [3]

    I’m not sure if you realize that Michael was not the person who wrote the statements you were quoting, but it actually came from me. I just noticed it and if your post was directed to me, I did not want you to think I had just ignored you. I really appreciate your thoughts on the matter and your willingness to consider what I am saying about the liberal media’s reporting on police conduct in this country.

    I appreciate you making this essential distinction between what LEO'S face and this one particular incident where Offcr. Chauvin exhibited bad judgement.

    This buoys my hope that you may NOT necessarily "blindly LEO" but are attempting to put my/our feet into a LEO'S shoes.

    One of the things that I have learned over the years is that propaganda, regardless of whether it is being promoted by the Left or the Right, is almost always structured the same way. If you watch how FoxNews reports on illegal immigration and compare it to how MSNBC reports on officer involved shootings; it is shocking at how similar they are! Articles filled with fear-mongering and depicting the villains as dangerous killers looking for their chance to commit acts of violence. The constant repeating of overly sweeping generalizations about every member of the hated group being included in the articles is a good sign of bad journalism.

    The police are us. Yet with no other profession do we judge every member by the actions of a single person. One bad teacher and we don’t change how teaching in done. One bad doctor and we don’t distrust all medical professionals. But one officer pulls the trigger and all police are judged.


    As such, good deal! That's what i hope you will help me with.

    Meanwhile I'm analyzing the Grand Rapids case and will seek your feedback forthwith. I'll do this to continue the dialogue that we both have given to this particular situation, fair enough?

    BTW kudo for less boldified right-wing quotes. I believe I read all of the above "spew" word for word. That doesn't mean I agree with any of all of it but it does mean I'm much more likely to read it.

    I haven’t looked at the Grand Rapids case, but I am happy to do so and give my opinion or answer any questions that you have. I do not agree with Michale’s assessment that Floyd was scum whose death society is better off as a result. Nor do I think that any of the officers charged with his death had any intention to cause him harm. It’s important to remember that all involved were human beings…not one dimensional characters.

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