A Good Night For Progressives
The progressive wing of the Democratic Party had a pretty good night in last night's primaries. It wasn't a complete sweep, but there was a lot more positive news than negative, for once. The big-money establishment Democrats were soundly defeated in a number of races, some of them in very blue House districts -- meaning the progressive is almost certain to win in November. Not every race is going to be a cakewalk, but at this point the Democrats' chances look pretty good.
The center-ring race was the Senate primary in Pennsylvania, where John Fetterman soundly defeated centrist Conor Lamb -- by over 30 points. Fetterman just suffered a minor stroke and had a pacemaker installed on the day of the election, but none of that stopped him from chalking up a very impressive victory last night. Fetterman doesn't like the label "progressive," he sees himself as more of a robust fighter for the little guy, but when you compare the two candidates, Fetterman was far more progressive than Lamb. One of Fetterman's signature issues was the legalization of marijuana, for instance. He also supports a $15 minimum wage and getting rid of the legislative filibuster in the Senate so Democrats can actually get some stuff done. Lamb, on the other hand, was backed by Senator Joe Manchin from next-door West Virginia -- which says just about all you need to know about Lamb, really.
As of this writing it is still not clear which Republican Fetterman will be taking on in November. The race for the Republican nomination was neck-and-neck all night, and as of now the race is separated by only 1,520 votes (out of over 1.3 million cast), so it will obviously be going to a recount. Right now, Mehmet "Dr." Oz is in the lead, barely edging out Dave McCormick. The Republican establishment would much rather see McCormick win, though, as he is seen as a lot more electable in November. Donald Trump endorsed Oz, so choice of the "Dear Leader" wing of the Republican Party was explicit here. However, many GOP voters -- many of them MAGA voters -- consider Oz to be "too Hollywood" for Pennsylvania. McCormick was helped by the third big candidate in the race, because she helped split the MAGA vote, but in the end Kathy Barnette fell far behind the other two frontrunners.
Fetterman says he's ready to take on either of the Republicans, but you'd have to assume he would much prefer to take on Oz. Fetterman is about as authentic as you can get, which would stand in sharp contrast to Oz. Pennsylvania is not New York state -- carpetbaggers are not looked upon as kindly there -- and Oz had to hastily move to the Keystone State from New Jersey when he decided to run. That could hurt him in a big way in November. As could all the MAGA political positions he has hastily adopted, after being much more mainstream throughout his television career. Oz has incredibly high negative ratings from within the ranks of his own party's voters in Pennsylvania, which means he wouldn't automatically be able to count on the base turning out to vote for him, while Fetterman has already won a statewide race, for lieutenant governor. McCormick is a lot more authentic, so he wouldn't be as vulnerable to such attacks. In any case, it is going to be one of November's most interesting Senate races, no matter which Republican wins the nomination in the end.
The votes are still being counted, but progressives look like they've chalked up two very big victories in House races in Oregon as well. In the fifth district, Jamie McLeod-Skinner is beating incumbent Representative Kurt Schrader by over 22 points, and in the sixth district Andrea Salinas is winning her race against Carrick Flynn by almost 19 points.
Schrader is a proud seven-term "Blue Dog" Democrat who has fought against Joe Biden's agenda in prominent ways, and has even been called "the Joe Manchin of the House" for bucking his party's line so much. He voted against Biden's initial COVID-19 relief bill, and was also against both Nancy Pelosi's plan to bring down the cost of prescription drugs and Biden's Build Back Better plan. McLeod-Skinner ran on the platform of being a loyal partner of Joe Biden more than leaning on progressivism, but she will be a lot less beholden to corporate interests like big Pharma. The race is still open (only about half of the votes have been counted, as of this writing), but Schrader has a long way to go to catch up. If Schrader loses, it will be a high-profile example of a corporate Democrat being successfully primaried by a much more progressive candidate. Even Biden's endorsement of Schrader didn't do him any good, in the end.
Carrick Flynn has conceded to Andrea Salinas (with 69 percent of the votes counted) in a very hard-fought race, if measured by the amount of money sunk into it by other groups. Flynn, a first-time candidate, was backed not only by a Nancy Pelosi-aligned PAC (the House Majority PAC) but also by a cryptocurrency billionaire. The PAC threw a million dollars behind Flynn, even though he was a White guy running against a Latina in a district that is over 20 percent Latino voters (which left a very bad taste in many Democrats' mouths). But that paled in comparison to the $11 million the crypto billionaire threw in to the contest on Flynn's account. In the end, all of this money was thrown away -- an absolutely stunning amount for one House primary race. But sometimes money doesn't automatically equate to victory, and now the very blue district will likely be represented by Salinas next year -- a clear-cut victory for progressives.
In Pennsylvania, one House district will almost certainly go through a recount, as the margin is razor-thin. As of this writing, with 94 percent of the vote counted, progressive Summer Lee is leading Steve Irwin by only 446 votes out of a total of over 110,000 cast. Lee is an unapologetic progressive who will doubtlessly be joining the Squad if she prevails, while Irwin was backed by establishment Democrats. The district is an open one, as the incumbent Democrat is retiring.
Progressives scored other victories last night as well, but as mentioned, it wasn't a total sweep. Progressive candidates lost in two House races in North Carolina, where Nida Allam and Erica Smith lost (respectively) to Valerie Foushee and Don Davis, who were both heavily backed by establishment Democratic PACs. In Kentucky, it was a similar story for Attica Scott, who was defeated by Morgan McGarvey.
All in all, though, there was a lot for progressives to celebrate in last night's primary results. For once, there were more victories than disappointments. Of course, this doesn't automatically equate to victory in November everywhere -- some of these nominees will face very tough races in the fall. But at this point it is looking like the progressives have a very solid chance of increasing their representation in both congressional caucuses -- possibly even successfully negating Joe Manchin's obstructionism (although there's always Kyrsten Sinema, so they'd really need two solid Senate victories to fully accomplish this). In multiple races, big money and the party's establishment support were beaten by the grassroots and impressive candidates. That is good news for the Democratic Party, from the progressive point of view.
-- Chris Weigant
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Note on Schrader:
The reason they are not calling this yet even with a 22 point lead is the Clackamas county clerk ordered ballots and did not check the printing. Many of the bar codes were blurred so they have to hand count and manually send to Salem. Since Oregon added a seat this round, all the districts have changed. Previously Schrader had most of Clackamas county but not as much of the counties and parts of counties that the vote has already been counted. They expect a higher percentage of Schrader votes in the ballots currently being counted. So, even with a 22 point lead it's too close to call.
Yes, I live in Clackamas county...
FPC
Unfettered and unrestricted baby killing.. AKA abortions.. THAT is what Democrats are fighting for..
Speaking of FACTS it is a fetus not a baby. And no American supports that.
Anti-Groomer Bill in Florida.
Anti-CRT Bills.
Anti-Sharia Law laws in Oklahoma.
All nonsense solutions to imaginary problems. Worse than that, passing nonsense solutions to imaginary problems is only progress to the Cheetogod crowd and not Americans who want government to govern and not Posture.
Yeah, CW, the Establishment Democrats always blame the Progressives when their establishment policies fail to excite voters. Good that some Progs like Fetterman did well yesterday. Hope that Oz wins.
Yup,
Fear
Firearms
(Someone else's) Faith, and
Facism, if Repugs can't win legitimately.
What's not to like, Michale? Because inflation, right?
as always, we'll see how successful this is in november. if the electorate chooses progressives, then chalk up the big win. if they don't, you can bet that the joe manchins of the world will be lining up to say 'i told you so.'
Death to Joe Manchin.
So just for the record, Michale where do you stand on CRT?
NOT Critical Race Theory, the acknowledgement that systemic racism serves to give mediocre white guys* an edge that they need in order to prosper or at least so they can feel superior to someone "other" in their mediocrity...
*Present company excepted, if course
No, I'm talking about Tucker Carlson's Conspiratorial (by the Dems) Replacement Theory. True? No? Are you even a white guy?
Where do you stand on George Sonos?
WWG1WGA?
Have Commie Socialists taken over the Democratic Party? The Chinese Commie Party, specifically?
Michale you are an invaluable source of right-wing-ness! I scope out Fox, Newsmax and OAN(N) but you dwell there. The above questions are asked in the spirit of giving you the respect of finding out where you fall on that spectrum. With an eye to more productive interactions. Making me a better Libtard, and stuff.
No, really. Hold back on the morning spew a little bit (being realistic) and please answer my since questions.
Remember, not long ago you and I both regarded the other as three kinds of a turd. And now... will miracles never cease!?!
...my sincere questions.
We'll find ourselves agreeing to disagree more times than not. But I've seen enough out of you that I think that we agree on more things than either EVER admit publically, duh. But you appear to have some things to teach me.
Don't blow it. C'mon, Dude. Get coffeed up and give it up! :D
Gimme some of that persuasive where you stand and why you stand that way stuff.
As opposed to covfefeed up which, like preborn babies and the threat of Sharia law is not a real thing. Heh.
How am I doing, Kick?
George Soros?
For the record The Jews will not replace us! is a right-wing thing, not so much the Dems.
So Michale here's where I hope you don't bring up some of that silly Defund the Police Man-bun crowd crap in return.
Because whataboutism instead of addressing the point, right?
SIR Michale, are you in favor of all abortion being outlawed in America? Exceptions? First trimester abortions okay or not?
WAY MOST IMPORTANTLY, why? You claim "NPA" (whatever the fuck that means) but you undeniably lean Repug/Conservative/Right-wing. From your Swinger background I'd assume you don't have a religiously based objection to abortion, so niggawhaddup?
Because, Michale, the state does NOT have a compelling interest in curtailing family planning, including abortion if needed. Please, specifically state your bortion position and your rationale. Unless you're not interested in improving my understanding.
Which wouldn't be the end of the world. It would just disappoint me in you, no más.
Kick! Are you out there!?
Finally, after almost three years, Queen: It's a Kinda Magic was tonight at the Centre in the Square and it was worth the wait!
I never saw Queen live but this band was phenomenal. I kept having to tell myself this ain't the real thing but, man oh man, they are good!
Three encores with Bohemian Rhapsody the finale. Great audience participation, too.
Been to some small venues for live music in the last little while but this was the first time back in a real premiere concert venue ... and it felt good!
http://www.queenitsakindamagic.com/
@liz,
where were you saturday? i actually showed up with music!
or was it sunday? it WAS sunday! guess i'm still learning my days of the week. it's always PIE day!
I was sick. Feeling much better now! Should have had some pie.
You showed up with music!? I'll go back and check it out ...
That was fun. I'm sorry that nobody helped you by contributing any tunes.
Let's see what we can do next time!
It's the (Queen) Victoria Long Holiday Weekend up here so, for my part, I'll be playing some of the best music to come out of the United Kingdom ...
Yeah, I checked in and wussed out. Sundays without my Miss Canada just ain't the same. :(
AN all BRITISH theme this Sunday would be marvelous!
Joshua,
Nice selections and love the acoustic guitar - is that you playing?
During a quiet moment at the show tonight, Freddie sang while Brian (have to find out his name, he's from Kitchener!!!) played acoustic guitar which sounded brilliant in the theatre. My next show there will be a Rolling Stones Tribute later this month...
MtnCaddy,
Aw, shucks. I was thinking of you and Joshua Sunday and hoping you'd both take over!
AN all BRITISH theme this Sunday would be marvelous!
Then that is how it will be! :)
Bashi,
Back peddling? Considering I quoted the relevant sections from the WHPA, that is blatantly false...
Considering you don't know that the WHPA allows late-term abortions, it's obvious you didn't read the law in it's entirety..
As is your wont, you cherry pick a paragraph or two that fits your agenda..
It's really a moot point as you, like me and like JL, concede that that baby killing AKA abortions SHOULD have some restrictions..
So, there really isn't anything left to discuss, eh? :D
MC,
All nonsense solutions to imaginary problems.
Really?? Grooming is an imaginary problem??
At least 135 teachers, aides charged with child sex crimes this year alone
102 of the cases, or 76%, involved alleged sex crimes against students
https://www.foxnews.com/us/135-teachers-charged-child-sex-crimes-this-year-alone
A groomer teacher is every parents NIGHTMARE..
Not being a parent, you can be forgiven for not understanding the depth of fear that parents feel..
Please, specifically state your bortion position and your rationale.
Oh come now, MC.. I don't think there is ANYONE here who doesn't know my position on baby killing, AKA abortion.. :D
Unless you're not interested in improving my understanding.
Last time we went down this road, you accused me of not answering your questions, even though I provided the # of the responses to your questions..
I am not real enthused about re-traveling that road..
But what the hell.. I'll give it a shot..
For the record The Jews will not replace us! is a right-wing thing, not so much the Dems.
Not factually accurate..
Democrats, as a whole, are on record as very anti-semitic..
Do the names Tlaib, Omar, Occasional Cortex many anything to you??
Your Democrats have put forth a resolution that names the creation of the State Of Israel as a "catastrophe"...
That's your Democrat Party MC... Jew hating to the core...
are you in favor of all abortion being outlawed in America? Exceptions? First trimester abortions okay or not?
I think that once a baby's heartbeat can be detected is a good line to draw.. Which is around 6 weeks..
Once a baby can survive outside the womb (22 weeks +/-) should be the hard line...
Before 22 weeks (viability) there are reasonable arguments to be made..
After 22 weeks there are no more reasonable arguments beyond the exceptions noted...
As for exceptions. The survival of the mother and quality of life of the baby are the only exceptions that should be allowed..
All of this has been said before ad nauseum.. I am surprised you asked.. But, as I have noted, I love repeating myself.. :D
SIR Michale,
As I have noted, my preferred pronoun is Lord, Lordship or Your Grace..
You don't want be accused of sexual harassment for mis-pronoun'ing me, do you MC?? ;D
Michale you are an invaluable source of right-wing-ness! I scope out Fox, Newsmax and OAN(N) but you dwell there.
Not factually accurate..
Factually speaking, I read a lot more from Left Wing sites than I do from Right Wing sites..
You claim "NPA" (whatever the fuck that means)
NPA is the Florida designation for Independent. It stands for NO POLITICAL AFFILIATION..
I'd assume you don't have a religiously based objection to abortion,
You would assume correctly. I don't have a religious bone in my body..
I have told this story several times, but will be happy to do so again..
I was happy to ride the pine with baby killing back when Democrats were satisfied with SAFE, LEGAL RARE baby killing..
But when Democrats moved to #CELEBRATE their infanticide and #SHOUT OUT their baby killing, that just royally pissed me off..
So I joined the fight against baby killing..
It's as simple as that..
so niggawhaddup?
Please, can we dispense with the ghetto talk?? It's not hip, it's not 'with it'..
It's just disgusting and racist and I know that's not the person you are..
Because, Michale, the state does NOT have a compelling interest in curtailing family planning, including abortion if needed.
It has nothing to do with family planning and everything to do with what is morally right..
Democrats are in a place now where killing a baby a week after birth is horrendous and morally corrupt (at least to non-Democrats), but killing a baby a week before birth is perfectly acceptable and is a woman's right according to Democrats..
THAT is as morally corrupt, degenerate and disgusting as one can possibly get..
THAT is your Democrats MC...
And I honestly cannot see how ANYONE can be OK with that..
Has nothing to do with religion. Has everything to do with what is morally acceptable..
Do you know what other countries allow un-restricted baby killing AKA abortion??
Iran. China. North Korea.
THAT is your Democrat Party MC.. The Democrats are morally aligned with Iran and China and North Korea..
How does that make you feel, MC??
Any other questions, MC???
Durham-Sussmann trial: Judge ‘not inclined’ to declare mistrial, despite attempt from defense
Michael Sussmann pleaded not guilty to making a false statement to the FBIhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-sussmann-trial-judge-mistrial-attempt-defense
Hillary must be sweating in her depends right about now!!! :D
The wolves are getting closer and closer to Hillary.. :D
Are you even looking Joe? Two young children in Memphis are hospitalized after needing IV fluids and nutritional support due to baby formula shortage
Pediatric Gastroenterologist Mark Corkins, 60, treated two Memphis children at Le Bonheur Children's Hospital after their parents couldn't find formula
The children, who were not identified, were 'not adapting well to the new formula type' and needed IVs and nutritional support
One was a preschooler, who was admitted in late April and is still currently being treated, while the toddler was admitted last week and has since left
'These are young children who have health conditions and special medical needs that [require] specific dietary requirements,' Corkins said
The doctor also said he worries IV side effects should
cause the children kidney and heart complication, elevated potassium, and salt in their blood
Children are needing to be hospitalized as parents continue to struggle to find formula on US shelves after
Abbott Laboratories recalled products in February
Many kids are having a hard time adjusting to generic and parents are seething at the slow turnaround as international products gets caught up at the border
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10829801/Two-children-TN-hospitalized-needing-IV-fluids-baby-formula-shortage.html
Democrats :eyeroll:
Can't kill the babies in the womb...
So, Plan B is to starve babies to death.. :^/
MC,
Interesting factoid for you...
Do you know what the NUMBER ONE KILLER of black Americans is??
Do you know the MOST DANGEROUS 'HOOD' for black Americans??
It's the womb...
The NUMBER ONE KILLER of black Americans is abortion..
So, if black lives TRULY matter to you, MC..
Then the ONLY logical course of action is to oppose baby killing.. AKA abortion..
Abortion has killed TENS OF MILLIONS of black Americans..
Compare that to the .0008% of black Americans that are killed, justifiably, by LEOs...
Do you see the blatant inconsistency between support baby killing and supporting BLM??
Looks like Biden's handlers caved on the Ministry Of Truth..
Really, the only story here is how they expected to get away with such blatant Anti-Americanism...
It's mind-numbingly moronic..
Liz,
I was sick. Feeling much better now!
Sorry to hear you weren't feeling well.. Glad yer better.. :D
Should have had some pie.
Naw, don't do that.. Pie just makes you feel worse..
CAKE... CAKE is good for what ails ya.. :D
MC,
All nonsense solutions to imaginary problems.
YOU want to speak to ME about "nonsense solutions to imaginary problems"???
SERIOUSLY!??
Please explain the "solution" of DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE to solve the "imaginary problem" of LEOs killing black Americans...
Talk about your imaginary problems.. LEOs are, JUSTIFIABLY mind you, responsible for .0008% of black American deaths.. Baby killing AKA abortion is the NUMBER ONE culprit of black American deaths.
I mean, if you REALLY want to talk about imaginary problems, let's talk about DEMOCRATS and THEIR imaginary problems, eh??
:eyeroll:
Let's talk about DEMOCRATS and their imaginary problem of systemic/institutionalized racism in this country that DOES NOT EXIST, save for Affirmative Action and the Democrat Party...
If your goal is to talk about imaginary problems, let's start with those 2 imaginary problems, eh?
Fetterman doesn't like the label "progressive,"
Of course he doesn't..
Because the label is toxic and brings to mind a whole slew of hate America crap...
No one in their right mind would want to be known as "progressive"...
Bashi,
Yes, I live in Clackamas county...
You have my sympathies and condolences.. :D
All the gains that Democrats gained with moms???
'CAN'T FEED THEIR KIDS': Mothers sound off on the 'terrifying' reality of not being sure how they'll feed their babies
Amid baby formula shortage, mothers express fear, one receiving product from Mexico
New Jersey mothers share concerns over ongoing baby formula shortage
https://www.foxnews.com/us/amid-baby-formula-shortage-mothers-express-fears-one-receiving-product-from-mexico
Kiss all those gains goodbye..
When they enter the voting booth mom's will remember how terrified and helpless they felt..
And it's ALL because of Biden's handlers and Democrats who were more concerned about treating parents like domestic terrorists and NOT being concerned with how those parents would feed their babies..
MC,
One of the BIGGEST imaginary problems of the here and now is Democrats and their idea that we have a problem with LEOs killing black Americans..
We don't..
What we DO have is a problem with people of ALL races ignoring the lawful orders of LEOs..
A problem epitomized by the George Floyds and the Michael Browns and the Ashli Babbits and the Philando Castiles and the Eric Gardners of this country...
And I think you'll find that Russ agrees with me on this..
Tale of two trials: How Sussmann is receiving every consideration denied to Flynn
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3492664-tale-of-two-trials-how-sussmann-is-receiving-every-consideration-denied-to-flynn/
This is how Democrat "justice" works.. :^/
It's like Democrat "science"...
Completely and totally at odds with what the words actually mean..
The left doesn’t think women can do it all
Their rhetoric on abortion has become downright dystopian
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/left-doesnt-believe-women-do-it-all-abortion/
Once again.. Proof positive that Democrats are their own worst enemies..
Democrats look to THE HANDMAIDENS TALE as an example of Right Wing policies..
But THT is actually a LEFT WING dystopian tale where baby killings AKA abortions are the way of the world so as to insure that the handmaidens can continue to work to serve and service the men..
Apparently, Democrats believe that women can ONLY be successful and happy if they are allowed to kill their babies so they can have a career and lots of money.. :eyeroll:
Elon Musk Says He Plans to Vote Republican For the First Time, as Democrats ‘Have Become the Party of Division and Hate’
https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/18/elon-musk-says-he-plans-to-vote-republican-for-the-first-time-as-democrats-have-become-the-party-of-division-and-hate/
"I have previously voted for Democrats because they were mostly the kindness party, but now they have become the party of division & hate.
Now, watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold."
-Elon Musk
Tell it, Brother Elon!!! :D
Gas prices will surpass $6 nationwide by August, JPMorgan says
Average price for a gallon of regular gasoline already surpassed $6 in Los Angeles and San Francisco
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/gas-prices-rising-august-summer-demand-2022
But Democrats will still do OK in the mid-terms.. :^/
Bashi... How do you like that $5.10 p/gal gas???
MC... How do you like the $6.20 p/gal gas???
If only ya'all had voted for President Trump..
Gas would still be under 2 bucks a gal...
There should be 2 prices at the pumps..
Those who voted for Biden should pay $6.50 a gallon..
Those who voted for President Trump should pay $1.84 a gallon..
@m,
If the only reason you're being so obtuse on abortion is that someone somewhere is celebrating it, you can rest easy, b/c there are way fewer of those than .0008% who actually love and celebrate abortions. Ending a pregnancy is a sad decision to make, and there's no good served by calling every woman who makes that choice a murderer.
I feel this issue personally because my wife miscarried before or first child, as many women do, and it was tough enough on both of us without having to do a homicide investigation.
If the only reason you're being so obtuse on abortion is that someone somewhere is celebrating it, you can rest easy, b/c there are way fewer of those than .0008% who actually love and celebrate abortions. Ending a pregnancy is a sad decision to make,
And yet #CELEBRATE your baby killing and #SHOUT OUT your infanticide were actually TRENDING topics on Twitter...
Such trending doesn't happen with .0008% of people in the country..
I feel this issue personally because my wife miscarried before or first child, as many women do, and it was tough enough on both of us without having to do a homicide investigation.
Which Democrats should have thought of before they started CELEBRATING and SHOUTING OUT... Eh??
My condolences to you and yours Joshua... I can imagine what a tough time that was for ya'all...
you can rest easy, b/c there are way fewer of those than .0008% who actually love and celebrate abortions.
The mere fact that Democrats are pushing for unlimited and unrestricted baby killing in the WHPA is sufficient proof that Democrats love and celebrate their baby killing..
Woops..
you can rest easy, b/c there are way fewer of those than .0008% who actually love and celebrate abortions.
The mere fact that Democrats are pushing for unlimited and unrestricted baby killing in the WHPA is sufficient proof that Democrats love and celebrate their baby killing..
I feel this issue personally because my wife miscarried before or first child, as many women do, and it was tough enough on both of us
And if you were the quintessential Democrat then there wouldn't be any problem because SAFE, LEGAL, RARE would still be the Democrat policy..
Elon cracks me up.. :D
Lots of stuff "trend" on social media. Have you ever spoken to anyone, a single flesh and blood human who says hooray, I'm having an abortion! Super cool!
Lots of stuff "trend" on social media. Have you ever spoken to anyone, a single flesh and blood human who says hooray, I'm having an abortion! Super cool!
Personally?? No..
But MANY interviews have been posted of women saying nearly exactly that..
Irregardless of these facts, it's apparent that Democrats are a LOT more into baby killing than SAFE, LEGAL RARE that was the norm..
As evidenced by the unrestricted baby killing on demand up to birth that is codified in the WHPA..
This is undeniable.
Michale-
Considering you don't know that the WHPA allows late-term abortions, it's obvious you didn't read the law in it's entirety..
Dude, I posted the relative sections two threads ago. Did you read the bill? It was linked to in your foxnews article...
You and your foxnews handlers are trying to push the narrative that a pregnant woman with a huge belly and about to pop could walk in to an abortion clinic and come out thin without a baby. Abortion just does not work that way no matter how much you fantasize about it. First, as a procedure, abortion just does not work that late into pregnancy. The vast majority of states limit late term abortion to 24 weeks or less unless the health of the mother is in jeopardy. Even if they have a reason for late term abortion, the procedure is different, more expensive and more invasive than a normal abortion and very few clinics are set up to handle it. It's a more specialized procedure and generally requires a doctors involvement.
I would say the big question is why you follow news services that so blatantly misinform with a false political narrative?
None of which changes the FACT that allowing such late term baby killing outside of survival of the mother considerations is CODIFIED into the WHPA...
But, as I keep saying, it's a moot point..
We ALL agree that baby killing restrictions are appropriate...
Nothing you have said changes that..
None of which changes the FACT that allowing such late term baby killing outside of survival of the mother considerations is CODIFIED into the WHPA...
You mean it does not specifically address problems that don't actually exist...
We ALL agree that baby killing restrictions are appropriate...
Did we ever cover infanticide? Abortion removes fetuses, it does not kill babies...
Abortion removes fetuses, it does not kill babies...
The first rule of serial killers..
Dehumanize the victims..
We ALL agree that baby killing restrictions are appropriate...
Abortion removes fetuses, it does not kill babies...
And yet, there is ample legal precedent that establishes CHILD abuse while the baby is still in the womb..
We ALL agree that baby killing restrictions are appropriate...
You mean it does not specifically address problems that don't actually exist...
Fine.. Then codifying preventing late term baby killing doesn't violate ANYONE's rights..
Everyone's happy.. :D
The first rule of serial killers..
Dehumanize the victims..
First rule of politics: Dehumanize the other side.
We ALL agree that baby killing restrictions are appropriate...
Current law covers infanticide...
It's a moot point..
There will be no Casey Anthony law..
The entire exercise was virtue signaling as we knew Manchin was not going to vote for it even before it was penned.
Which simply proves that Manchin is a HUMAN BEING and an AMERICAN first...
Tried the Playstation 4 VR yesterday..
I like the Oculus bettter, but the integration between the PS4 desktop and VR was pretty nice..
Wish they had that on the Oculus for the PC..
Ya, the PSVR works pretty well for how old the hardware is. I'm looking forward to PSVR2 when it releases should I ever find a PS5 before then...
We have a couple PS5s here.. $1200...
They are spendy as shit..
All high end electronics are sky high right now..
I ended up paying about over $1500 for my RTX 3060ti...
Crazy...
So, anyone here following the Depp/Heard trial??
New Low For Joe
Biden's approval rating plummets with key voting demographic in one year as midterms loom large
Biden's Hispanic approval ratings plummets to 26% in new poll
Biden approval rating among Hispanics was at 55% last year
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-hispanic-approval-rating-plummets
The only REAL question remaining is how low can Joe and the Democrats go??
Left seethes as Elon Musk calls Democrats ‘the party of division and hate:’ ‘TERRIBLE AMERICAN’
'Apartheid raised billionaire ‘decides’ to ‘become’ a Republican. Are you going to announce that water is wet next?'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/elon-musk-calls-democrats-party-division-hate-terrible-american
Democrats LOVED Donald Trump until he became a Republican..
Democrats LOVED Elon Musk until he decided to vote Republican...
I am sensing a pattern here.. :D
Elon has a new name for Progressives..
"Whacktivists"...
:D Heh It fits.. :D
It's amazing that Elon claims he cannot vote Democrat because they are hateful and divisive..
Then Democrats go and prove Elon's point with a bunch of hateful and divisive vitriol.. :D
Once again proving that Democrats are their own worst enemy...
And the news keeps getting better and better for the country.. :D
Ya almost gotta feel sorry for Democrats..
And, if Democrats believe that the baby killing issue will save them???
New
@trafalgar_group
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@COSProject
poll (5/6-8) shows 57.6% of Americans believe abortion should either be illegal entirely or after a fetal heartbeat detected.
Only 11.6% believe abortion should be legal at any point.
https://twitter.com/trafalgar_group/status/1526907366968639488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1526907366968639488%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fguybenson%2F2022%2F05%2F19%2Fdems-in-disarray-vulnerable-members-want-leadership-change-internal-polling-looks-bleak-n2607442
They need to think again...