The House January 6th Select Committee Hearings [Episode 1]
[Program Note: Our regular Friday column has been pre-empted to provide our review of last night's January 6th committee hearing. The committee has not fully released their schedule for hearings, although next week will reportedly see one each on Monday morning, Wednesday morning, and then a little later in the day on Thursday. Early hearings will be covered here the same day they air, since (being on the West Coast) it still leaves enough time to do the actual writing. Primetime hearings will be covered the next day. So any Thursday hearings for the next few weeks which air in the evening will also pre-empt the regular Friday Talking Points column. Any week without a Thursday evening hearing will mean Friday Talking Points will appear as normal. Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up.]
Public hearings of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol [Episode 1]
I should begin by saying that that should really be "Episode 2," since last night was technically the second public hearing the committee has held. The first took place on July 27th of last year ("The Law Enforcement Experience on January 6th") and featured four of the police officers who defended the United States Capitol against a violent mob attempting to interfere with the peaceful presidential transfer of power. I reviewed that hearing back when it happened, and the next day had to write a followup article titled "In Praise Of Liz Cheney." But due to the gap in time, I am going to consider that first hearing the "pre-season" and start numbering the hearings beginning with last night's.
Last night's hearing was meant to be an overview of the upcoming miniseries season. The next seven hearings were outlined, which will expose what Representative Liz Cheney called Donald Trump's "seven-point plan" to overturn a free and fair election. Next week, we will get at least two and possibly three more hearings (the official January 6th Committee website only lists the first two (as of this writing), on Monday and Wednesday mornings, but it is being widely reported there will be a third next Thursday at 1:00 P.M. Eastern time). That's a fairly fast pace, and it looks like the next two weeks will be chock full of hearings. I am assuming that at the end there will be a final hearing in primetime which will wrap up the entire storyline and present the full case to the American people about what went on, who was responsible, and what we should do now to ensure that it never happens again.
That is the real point of these hearings. To fully expose what happened, in brutal detail. And to make recommendations to prevent it from ever happening again. These hearings are not intended to achieve some political goal, as the two Republicans on the committee keep reminding us. These hearings are necessary, they are not designed to somehow have some political effect. History demands we know what happened, plain and simple.
Only four people spoke live last night, two of them members of the committee: the chair of the committee, Bennie Thompson, and the vice-chair, the most important Republican on the committee, Liz Cheney. The other two were the witnesses who appeared in person. Interwoven throughout were video clips of other testimony from other witnesses, which were used at appropriate moments to make individual points far better than Thompson or Cheney could have done on their own.
For the most part, the story was told by Trump's own people -- his advisors, his cabinet members, and even his own daughter and son-in-law. This was very effective, and I expect many more such clips to be shown during each upcoming hearing. The narrative was presented in "true crime" style, by first giving an overview of the crime that was committed, after which each individual aspect of the crime will be scrutinized.
It was not explicitly outlined in the hearing, but one committee member later told the media what each of the points were in Trump's seven-point plan:
- President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
- President Trump corruptly planned to replace the acting attorney general, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
- President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the U.S. Constitution and the law.
- President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
- President Trump's legal team and other Trump associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
- President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob in Washington and directed them to march on the U.S. Capitol.
- As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol.
So that's what the committee will lay out, step by step.
The first hour last night was devoted to both the overview of the crime that had happened and a less-explicit outline of what the committee will be presenting in the upcoming hearings. Bennie Thompson took the lead explaining the gravity and seriousness of what had happened, while Liz Cheney outlined the upcoming hearings.
The second hour of the hearing dealt with the two in-person witnesses, Capitol Police Officer Caroline Edwards and documentarian Nick Quested. Edwards was kind of a throwback to the initial public hearing of the committee (from last July), and told her gut-wrenching personal story about what she did and witnessed that day. Quested was filming a documentary and following around the leader of the Proud Boys, which gave him incredible access to what happened, including witnessing (and filming, although in the crucial points the microphone did not pick up the conversation) a meeting in a parking garage the night before January 6th between the leaders of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers. Quested spent January 6th trailing the Proud Boys as they first reconnoitered and then attacked the Capitol, which also provided some rather stunning footage.
The first hour
Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson opened the proceedings by recounting his own personal history and the history of the oath of office all members of Congress and the federal government must swear to. He presented a handwritten letter from Abraham Lincoln (a letter Lincoln had had his cabinet members sign onto, sight unseen), which explained how and why -- in the case of Lincoln losing re-election -- Lincoln would dutifully turn over the reins of power to his duly-elected successor, no matter what he thought that might mean for the country. This was a poignant reminder of how the peaceful transfer of power is supposed to take place -- even during a civil war. It was also a reminder of the petulance and narcissism of Donald Trump -- the only president in United States history who did not honor that constitutional transfer of power.
Thompson spoke of the effect of the Civil War, and how the oath officeholders must now take reflects that in the wording (which he heavily stressed, repeatedly): to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
He then laid out how Donald Trump was told, by some of his closest advisors both within his administration and from his own campaign, that he had unequivocally lost. The most striking of these came first, when Thompson rhetorically asked "Don't believe me?" and then presented former attorney general William Barr's video testimony, where Barr dismissively said of all the claims of election fraud: "I told the president it was bullshit. I didn't want to be part of it." Barr also explained how Trump was free to challenge the results in the courts, which he did, but when all the courts ruled against him, "in this country, that's the end of the line." Or it should have been, at any rate.
Thompson wrapped up with a simple conclusion: "Donald Trump was at the center of this conspiracy. And ultimately, Donald Trump, the president of the United States, spurred a mob of domestic enemies of the Constitution to march down the Capitol and subvert American democracy."
Thompson's presentation was delivered very soberly, in his Southern drawl, and set the tone for the entire evening.
After speaking for 15 minutes, Thompson then turned things over to Cheney, who took up most of the rest of the opening hour. Cheney went straight at Donald Trump and introduced more video clips, from Barr, from Jason Miller, from Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, as well as others. Here is just some of what she had to say:
[A]ware of the rioters' chants to "hang Mike Pence," the President responded with this sentiment: "maybe our supporters have the right idea." Mike Pence "deserves" it.
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Tonight and in the weeks to come, you will see evidence of what motivated this violence, including directly from those who participated in this attack. You will see video of them explaining what caused them to do it. You will see their posts on social media. We will show you what they have said in federal court. On this point, there is no room for debate. Those who invaded our Capitol and battled law enforcement for hours were motivated by what President Trump had told them: that the election was stolen, and that he was the rightful President. President Trump summoned the mob, assembled the mob and lit the flame of this attack.
. . .
On the morning of January 6th, President Donald Trump's intention was to remain President of the United States despite the lawful outcome of the 2020 election and in violation of his Constitutional obligation to relinquish power. Over multiple months, Donald Trump oversaw and coordinated a sophisticated seven-part plan to overturn the presidential election and prevent the transfer of presidential power. In our hearings, you will see evidence of each element of this plan.
. . .
As you will see in great detail in these hearings, President Trump ignored the rulings of our nation's courts, he ignored his own campaign leadership, his White House staff, many Republican state officials, he ignored the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security. President Trump invested millions of dollars of campaign funds purposely spreading false information, running ads he knew were false, and convincing millions of Americans that the election was corrupt and he was the true President. As you will see, this misinformation campaign provoked the violence on January 6th.
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In our final two June hearings, you will hear how President Trump summoned a violent mob and directed them, illegally, to march on the U.S. Capitol. While the violence was underway, President Trump failed to take immediate action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol.
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In our final hearing, you will hear a moment-by-moment account of the hours-long attack from more than a half dozen White House staff, both live in the hearing room and via videotaped testimony. There is no doubt that President Trump was well aware of the violence as it developed. White House staff urged President Trump to intervene and call off the mob. Here is a document written while the attack was underway by a member of the White House staff, advising what the President needed to say: "Anyone who entered the capitol without proper authority should leave immediately."
This is exactly what his supporters on Capitol Hill and nationwide were urging the President to do. He would not. You will hear that leaders on Capitol Hill begged the President for help, including Republican Leader McCarthy, who was "scared" and called multiple members of President Trump's family after he could not persuade the President himself.
Not only did President Trump refuse to tell the mob to leave the Capitol, he placed no call to any element of the U.S. government to instruct that the Capitol be defended. He did not call his Secretary of Defense on January 6th. He did not talk to his Attorney General. He did not talk to the Department of Homeland Security. President Trump gave no order to deploy the National Guard that day, and he made no effort to work with the Department of Justice to coordinate and deploy law enforcement assets. But Vice President Pence did each of those things.
. . .
And you will hear from witnesses how the day played out inside the White House, how multiple White House staff resigned in disgust, and how President Trump would not ask his supporters to leave the Capitol. It was only after multiple hours of violence that President Trump finally released a video instructing the riotous mob to leave, and as he did so, he said to them: "We love you. You're very special."
. . .
In our country, we don't swear an oath to an individual, or a political party. We take our oath to defend the United States Constitution. And that oath must mean something. Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.
Finally, I ask all of our fellow Americans as you watch our hearings over the coming weeks, please remember what's at stake. Remember the men and women who have fought and died so that we can live under the Rule of Law, not the rule of men. I ask you to think of the scene in our Capitol rotunda on the night of January 6th. There, in, a sacred space in our constitutional republic, the place where our presidents lie in state, watched over by statues of Washington and Jefferson, Lincoln and Grant, Eisenhower, Ford and Reagan, against every wall that night encircling the room, there were SWAT teams, men and women in tactical gear with long guns deployed inside our Capitol building.
There in the rotunda, these brave men and women rested beneath paintings depicting the earliest scenes of our Republic, including one painted in 1824 depicting George Washington resigning his commission, voluntarily relinquishing power, handing control of the Continental Army back to Congress. With this noble act, Washington set the indispensable example of the peaceful transfer of power. What President Reagan called, "nothing less than a miracle." The sacred obligation to defend this peaceful transfer of power has been honored by every American president -- except one.
Cheney's presentation was also given in sober tones, although her voice did have an edge to it. This is understandable, considering what her own party has done to her for faithfully upholding her oath of office. I know it sounds astonishing (coming from me, as it does) but I couldn't help but think of Dick Cheney watching his daughter last night, and how she must have made him proud. She obviously inherited the steely backbone he so often showed -- even when doing so enraged people like me. As Liz said, this is above politics. This is about preserving the American way of government, and all those who are faithful to the Constitution are on the same side in this fight.
Cheney's presentation ended with a video (which ran a little over 10 minutes) showing new footage of the attack on the Capitol from various different angles and viewpoints. This was a recap of the first hearing, from last July. It was just as brutal as all the other footage the public has seen (both on the day it happened and since). The production values were superb, the video was seamlessly stitched together to provide a narrative of what happened, and didn't even contain some of the worst of the rioting -- what happened when the mob actually gained access to the chambers of Congress. But it was enough. It reminded America of what we all went through that day, watching at home. And it set the stage for the next hour of the proceedings, which began after a 10-minute break.
The second hour
The second hour was somewhat abbreviated, starting 12 minutes after the hour and wrapping up five minutes before the top of the next hour. This was the portion of the program with the two live witnesses, a Capitol Police officer and a documentarian who had been shadowing the Proud Boys on the day of the attempted insurrection.
Officer Caroline Edwards, who was the first of many police officers to be injured that day, told her story in gripping emotional terms. She recounted not only what happened that day, but also what she had to listen to about herself: "They dared to question my honor, they dared to question my loyalty, they dared to question my duty." It was clear from her voice how offensive this was to her (which is entirely understandable). At the end of her testimony, she was asked what her most searing memory was of the day and Edwards responded:
I can just remember my breath catching in my throat, because what I saw was just a war scene. It was something like I'd seen out of the movies. I couldn't believe my eyes. There were officers on the ground. You know, they were bleeding. They were throwing up. I saw friends with blood all over their faces. I was slipping in people's blood. I was catching people as they fell. It was carnage. It was chaos. I can't even describe what I saw. Never in my wildest dreams did I think as a police officer, I would find myself in the middle of a battle.... I'm trained to detain a couple of subjects and handle a crowd. I'm not combat-trained. That day, it was hours and hours of hand-to-hand combat.
This is why her testimony was presented last night -- because first-person impressions are a lot more powerful than a dry recitation of the facts. Edwards was knocked to the ground by the rioters, passed out when she hit her head on the concrete steps, and then later woke and rejoined the fight, only to be hit in the eyes with caustic spray from the rioters. Her performance of her duties that day was not only admirable, it was downright heroic.
The second witness was the documentarian, Nick Quested. He was filming a movie on the political divisions in America, and had close access to the leader of the Proud Boys. Quested recounted driving this leader around to various places on the night of January 5th, one of which was a meeting in a parking garage between a few lawyers and the leaders of both the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, two violent extremist groups that have been charged with seditious conspiracy for their roles in January 6th. The meeting and the rest of Quested's testimony showed that the two groups were not only aligned, but had planned in advance the attack on the Capitol. This was not just some spontaneous demonstration that "got out of hand," it was preplanned and premeditated.
This segment (and the hearing itself) closed with a video of multiple members of the Proud Boys saying what most people who stormed the Capitol echoed that day: they came because Donald Trump asked them to. If he hadn't, the attack on the Capitol never would have happened.
This was all reportedly a teaser for revelations to come later. The committee has other evidence tying together these violent extremist groups with people in close communication with Donald Trump. We didn't get any of that communication last night, but have been promised it later on.
Conclusions
Last night was a good opener to what will unfold in the next few weeks. It got incredible ratings (Nielsen's preliminary figures put the audience watching live at 19 million). People watched, and most of them watched from beginning to end (viewership didn't noticeably drop throughout the whole two hours).
Fewer people will likely watch the hearings next week, since they will happen in the middle of the day. But remember that this figure doesn't count people who will watch via other methods (streaming it later, when they have time to watch, for instance). The fears that "nobody cares anymore" (which was the story Republicans were desperately trying to push before the hearing started) are obviously unfounded. America does care about what happened, and they do want to see some conclusions and consequences for all of the bad actors.
Last night's opener set exactly the right tone. In a word, it was righteous. It did not descend into raw emotion or rage, but it conveyed both more than adequately. What happened is, above all else, offensive. It was wrong. And that came through quite clearly last night.
The next episode of this continuing series will be aired next Monday, at 10:00 A.M. Eastern time. The plan is for it to examine the first of those seven points: how "Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information" even though he knew he had lost the election.
Wednesday's hearing will show Trump trying to influence and replace people at the Department of Justice, so they would give his Big Lie an official imprimatur (which, thankfully, never actually happened, due to so many administration lawyers threatening to quit if it did).
Last night's hearing set the stage for weeks of further exhibits and testimony. It was well-presented and it never got boring or bogged down in the weeds of minutiae. And, importantly, it was not hijacked by bloviating or conspiracy theories -- they way it would have if Nancy Pelosi had allowed Jim Jordan a seat on the committee. That alone was a gigantic relief.
All of this bodes well for the episodes which will follow. We seem to have the makings of a summer blockbuster on our hands.
-- Chris Weigant
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Correction:
I first published this with the wrong first name for the Capitol Police officer. Her name is "Caroline" not "Carolyn." It has been fixed, and mea culpa.
-CW
Fascinating viewing. I streamed the hearing today because I couldn't catch it yesterday, and the production was interesting. I still can barely believe that January 6 actually happened in the United States of America. It reminded me of a 1990s drama called future fright, losing the bill of rights, which i used to use for my 7th grade civics students.
Here's the video. Compare and contrast, class:
https://youtu.be/sAcfXTROBi0
CW
Very nice summary, CW.
For the most part, the story was told by Trump's own people -- his advisors, his cabinet members, and even his own daughter and son-in-law. This was very effective, and I expect many more such clips to be shown during each upcoming hearing.
Oh, I definitely agree. Clips I found most interesting from yesterday (alphabetical):
Steve Bannon: Pardoned by Trump just in time to commit more crimes for Trump. Stated on January 5th that, "All hell is going to break loose tomorrow." Not sure to exactly what Bannon was referring since he refuses to testify under oath, but does that sound like a guy who has nothing planned for January 6th?
Eric Barber: Defendant and Trump supporter who livestreamed his own crimes on social media.
William "Bill" Barr: Trump's Attorney General who testified under oath that he informed Trump that the DOJ investigation found no evidence of widespread fraud that would overturn the election and referred to claims to the contrary as "bullshit."
Alex Cannon: Trump campaign lawyer who testified under oath that he informed Mark Meadows in mid November that no evidence of voter fraud was found in multiple of the states at issue, to which Cannon stated that Meadows replied: "So there's no there there."
Jared Kushner: I suspect Jared's characterization of White House Counsel as "whining" will naturally elicit additional voluntary testimony from said White House Counsel.
General Mark Milley: Testified under oath it was Mike Pence who gave emphatic orders to stop the attack... not Trump.
Ivanka Trump: Fulfilled Trump's fantasy of being screwed by his own daughter. Ivanka testified under oath for hours against her father. Stay tuned for Ivanka describing her repeated attempts to get her father to call off the attackers and how he repeatedly refused.
Enrique Tarrio: Proud Boy leader who planned the attack and had the great good sense to have a film crew actually film himself while doing it. FUN FACT: Roger Stone had a film crew following him too. The Danish film crew have footage from November 5, 2020, wherein Stone directed his aides to recruit retired military and law enforcement officials for "Stop the Steal." Stone told his aides to monitor a group chat on the app "Signal" titled "F.O.S."... meaning Friends of Stone. Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys was among the members of that group.
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Upcoming testimony not to be missed: Cassidy Hutchinson, Executive Assistant to Mark Meadows and eyewitness to lots of things. She (reportedly) told the January 6th Committee that she was eyewitness to Mark Meadows incinerating documents after he met with Rep. Scott Perry after the 2020 election. As you may remember, the House committee released testimony in April that Hutchinson named Perry, Jim Jordan, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Lauren Boebert as the members of Congress "who were raising the idea of the vice president doing anything other than just counting electoral votes on January the 6th." She also testified that Perry had vocally supported the idea of urging Trump's supporters on a march toward the Capitol. She also testified about another meeting wherein she witnessed Republicans discussing delaying the joint session of Congress (illegal). She testified that that meeting was attended by Jordan and Greene as well as at least nine other Republican lawmakers.
On May 25, Politico reported that the Jan. 6 select committee heard testimony indicating that Meadows heard Trump say something supportive about those who were chanting "hang Mike Pence" during the riot. A witness told the committee that Meadows had been in the dining room off the Oval Office when Trump made the comment and that Meadows told people nearby "that Trump had signaled a positive view of the prospect of hanging the vice president."
Chris Weigant
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I first published this with the wrong first name for the Capitol Police officer. Her name is "Caroline" not "Carolyn." It has been fixed, and mea culpa.
No worries. I too goobed up the alphabetizing by transposing "Trump" and "Tarrio." It has not been fixed because you are the only one who can fix it... and me too mea culpa. :)
[3] nypoet22:
Thanks for that, JL. I'll bet that video sparked some really intense conversations.
Liz,
President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
President Trump corruptly planned to replace the acting attorney general, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the U.S. Constitution and the law.
President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
President Trump's legal team and other Trump associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob in Washington and directed them to march on the U.S. Capitol.
As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol.
Yesterday you called into question my FACT that this 6JC witch hunt was SOLELY about taking down President Trump..
There is NO OTHER CONSIDERATION beyond that..
I think the FACTS prove beyond ANY doubt that I was completely dead on ballz right and that you were wrong.. :D
Liz,
The most important fact in support of Trump being an America hater is how he always pits one group of Americans (his supporters) against all other Americans (everyone else).
You mean, as opposed to Democrats who do the EXACT same thing??
This tells me that he doesn't love his country. He only "loves" his fellow countrymen and women if they agree with him and support him and tell him how wonderful he is and how awful everyone else is.
Again... EXACTLY how Democrats are...
He didn't do this JUST as part of his campaign for the presidency or JUST when he was president. He is divisive to the extreme ALL THE TIME.
And again... You describe DEMOCRATS perfectly...
Democrats are EXACTLY everything you accuse President Trump of being...
Russ,
Not sure what you are suggesting seeing how SROs are still in schools all over the country.
Quite a few less since the Democrats and their DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies
JROTC is still offered in some school systems around the country.
That completely surprises me...
But lets look at the facts, eh? :D
Only 6% of schools offer JROTC... That's just sad... And that DOESN'T surprise me..
And I am willing to wager that NONE of them have a rifle team...
That's double sad..
Typical of Democrats... :^/
So, the big premiere of the Hollywood "blockbuster", THE 6JC was a huge snoozer..
This much is apparent..
But hay.... If Democrats are insistent on digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole..
Far be it from me to take away their shovels.. :D
And *STILL* nothing about the Kavanaugh assassination attempt...
No condemnation from ANYONE here except Jean Luc...
That is completely and utter surprising to me...
NOT...
Hypocrisy. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.
:eyeroll:
Bill Maher buries NYT for burying Kavanaugh assassination attempt: 'They wear their bias on their sleeves'
NYT kept the assassination attempt of Justice Brett Kavanaugh off the front page
Once again, the hypocrisy is deafening...
A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE is target'ed for assassination and no one on the Left is talking about it.. :eyeroll:
If a Right Wing nutjob had target'ed Breyer or Sotomayor or Kagan, it would be TOP HEADLINES for weeks..
Both at FNC and everywhere else...
So much for the claim that Democrats (and Weigantians) will give a full-throated and passionate condemnation of violence from Left Wingers directed at Conservatives.. :eyeroll:
Only 2 people here condemned the attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh..
One condemnation was a decent and sincere, albeit fleeting, condemnation..
The other was an inane milquetoast generic, "Oh I condemn all violence everywhere" and that was it..
Why don't we see such a passionate condemnation of this attempted assassination such as the kind that Democrats did against 6 Jan??
I mean, BOTH were gross and perverse attacks on an institution of democracy at the highest level..
So, why no condemnation from even BIDEN!???
Ya'all went apeshit crazy when President Trump didn't condemn the 6 Jan protests til hours later...
It's been DAYS and Biden's Handlers haven't condemned this assassination attempt. And ya'all are perfectly fine with that.. :^/
So, the *ONLY* logical conclusion here, based on the FACTS, is that ya'all are perfectly accepting of political violence.. As long as it's Left Wingers committing violence in the name of the Democrat Party agenda..
Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming.. It's a feature..
I see that Ashli Babbit's husband appeared at the 6JC...
While I feel for him, the simple fact is that Babbit is dead for the same reasons that Floyd is dead.. For the same reasons that Gardner is dead.. For the same reasons that Castile is dead. For the same reasons that Brown is dead...
They are dead because they made a conscious and stoopid decision to ignore the lawful orders of LEOs and they decided to fight the law..
The law won...
It's really that simple..
It's doubly sad in Babbit's case because she was an LEO herself.. She SHOULD have known better..
The J6 Inquisition Is An Obvious Soviet-Style Show Trial
As during Communist control of Soviet Russia, the Jan. 6 Committee’s purpose is to prop up a dying, corrupt regime.
Yep, yep... Exactly...
“I’m from a part of the country where people justify the actions of slavery, Ku Klux Klan, and lynching. I’m reminded of that dark history as I hear voices today try and justify the actions of the insurrectionists on January 6th, 2021.”
-Chairman Benny Thompson
And who were those who justified the actions of slavery, who gave us the KKK and who were the ones holding the lynching ropes, Benny??
Yes, that's right... They were ALL Democrats...
The simple fact is, this is a show trial.. Literally a SHOW trial because it is being produced and directed by a Hollywood mogul...
And even DEMOCRATS acknowledge this.. Even DEMOCRATS acknowledge that this will likely hurt them in the coming mid-terms.. Democrats acknowledge that the vast majority of the American people don't care anymore about what occurred over 18 months ago...
The vast majority of the American people know that this is nothing but Russia Collusion Delusion Part II and SOLELY designed to take down President Trump..
One would think that Democrats would have learned their lesson, but no...
Democrats are doing the same thing over and over and over again, hoping for a different result..
Biden and the Dems Are Repeating Terry McAuliffe’s Failed Strategy on a National Scale
Democrats failed with their Russia Collusion delusion...
Democrats failed when McAwful tried to make the gubernatorial election about President Trump..
Democrats are making the EXACT SAME MISTAKE by trying to make the mid-terms about President Trump vis a vis this Hollywood fiction that is the 6JC......
Democrats will continue their cult of political failure...
There simple is NO QUESTION that Democrats will lose both the House and the Senate in November...
The ONLY question remains is whether it's going to be a HUGE uber-nuclear shellacking??
Or a HUGE BIBLICAL uber-nuclear shellacking...
And once the GOP controls the House...
ALL of the criminal activity of Biden's Handlers and Democrats in general will be gone thru with the finest of fine toothed combs... :D
Now THAT will be some real facts.. And REAL fun... :D
Aww right... I pass the mic over to someone else.. :D
There is NO OTHER CONSIDERATION beyond that..
As much attention as Donald gets for his part in allowing this to happen, it's very unfortunate if that's the only take away. In my opinion a much bigger issue is our government's failure to take domestic terrorists seriously. Proud boys, oath keepers and other "American" terrorist groups need to get just as much attention as Al Qaeda or ISIS.
As much attention as Donald gets for his part in allowing this to happen, it's very unfortunate if that's the only take away.
As much as Schumer's part in the attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh...
In my opinion a much bigger issue is our government's failure to take domestic terrorists seriously. Proud boys, oath keepers and other "American" terrorist groups need to get just as much attention as Al Qaeda or ISIS.
Ooopss Yer bias is showing.. :D
You don't mention BLM or Anti-Fa. Groups responsible for murders, assassinations, BILLIONS of dollars in damages and hundreds of attacks on HUNDREDS of government buildings all over the country...
Which simply proves that the 6JC is just another political witch hunt.. No different than the Democrat Russia Collusion delusion..
By definition, the 6JC is simply a political witch hunt..
If it weren't, Democrats would ALSO investigate their OWN failures...
But they flat out refuse to even consider their own failures, of which their are plenty..
Ergo.. Textbook definition of political witch hunt..
How many cops died because of the 6 Jan riot??
ZERO...
How many cops died because of the 22+ years (collectively) of BLM and AntiFa riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings all over the country??
DOZENS...
The summer 2020 riots resulted in some 15 times more injured police officers, 23 times as many arrests, and estimated damages in dollar terms up to 1,300 times more costly than those of the Capitol riot.
Funny how ya'all are silent on this, yet hysterical about a SINGLE riot in a SINGLE building at a SINGLE location over a few hours..
Even just singling out 2020...
8,700 riots
574 involving violent acts
150 cities
Over a span of more than 2 months...
And the condemnation from Democrats in general and Weigantians specifically relatively speaking??
{{ccchhhiiiirrrrrr}} {{cchhhiiiirrrrrrpppp}}
How else can the 6JC be viewed at ANYTHING but a political witch hunt with the SOLE GOAL of bringing down President Trump..
A goal that NO ONE with more than 2 brain cells to rub together thinks will actually come to pass...
8,700 riots
574 involving violent acts
150 cities
i.e. (pause for math)lefties manage 93.4% of their protests without a single punch thrown. I don't have data on righty protests, but i doubt they can say the same.
But as you've said, a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist, and all terrorists of all stripes must be condemned - especially by those politicians who may have accidentally communicated support.
i.e. (pause for math)lefties manage 93.4% of their protests without a single punch thrown. I don't have data on righty protests, but i doubt they can say the same.
ONE Right Wing violent riot that lasted a few hours..
Versus almost TEN THOUSAND DEMOCRAT riots...
8700 riots.. DOZENS of dead cops.. THOUSANDS injured..
BILLIONS of dollars in damages.. Over a period of 3 months..
And YOU want to talk percentages???
WOW... Just... wow...
But as you've said, a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist, and all terrorists of all stripes must be condemned - especially by those politicians who may have accidentally communicated support.
And yet, no one here besides you has even made an EFFORT to condemn the violent Left Wing fire-bombings and the attempted assassination of a SCOTUS Justice..
So, where is the passionate 6 Jan-esque condemnation from Democrats and Weigantians???
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Simply proves that Democrats don't really condemn violent attacks.... As long as it's DEMOCRATS attacking Right Wingers, Democrats are perfectly accepting of violence...
Simply proves that Democrats don't really condemn violent attacks.... As long as it's DEMOCRATS attacking Right Wingers, Democrats are perfectly accepting of violence...
N.E.N. of course... :D
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That is all... :D
i.e. (pause for math)lefties manage 93.4% of their protests without a single punch thrown. I don't have data on righty protests, but i doubt they can say the same.
In the last 5 years, there has been TWO...
Count them.. ONE TWO
Right Wing violent riots of any import or note...
Charlottesville and 6 Jan....
In the span of just THREE MONTHS of 2020, there were almost TEN THOUSAND Democrat riots...
There have been TWENTY TWO YEARS+ collectively of Democrat riots....
And you SERIOUSLY expect me to believe that RIGHT WINGERS are the violent ones???
SERIOUSLY!!???
Jean Luc, you need to face reality..
When it comes to violence and hatred and intolerance??
It's your DEMOCRAT PARTY that leads the pack.. BY FAR...
And NOW.... NOW Democrats are graduating to fire-bombings and attempted assassinations...
And it's the GOP that's the problem????
SERIOUSLY???!!!
My point isn't that right wingers are evil and left wingers are pure as the driven. I will even stipulate that lefties have just as many crazy people and are more likely to whine and throw tantrums in public.
However, a series of peaceful demonstrations where once every fifteen times the emotions overflow into fisticuffs isn't even in the same universe as a premeditated armed incursion into the seat of government on the eve of transition to new leadership, in an attempt to prevent that transition. It's just not the same thing.
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However, a series of peaceful demonstrations where once every fifteen times the emotions overflow into fisticuffs isn't even in the same universe as a premeditated armed incursion into the seat of government on the eve of transition to new leadership, in an attempt to prevent that transition. It's just not the same thing.
So you're saying the right-wingnut repetitive attempts at whataboutism and false equivalency aren't fooling you? Me neither.
One needs only to regularly take a moment to read the latest news releases by the Department of Justice where they post indictments. Interesting reading from the "Third Superseding Indictment" wherein multiple members of the Proud Boys are recently now charged with Seditious Conspiracy (among multiple other charges) for their premeditated attack on the Capitol:
*
So anyone from the right-wing echo chamber attempting to claim it wasn't a premeditated conspiracy to attempt to prevent Congress from performing their constitutionally mandated certification of the Electoral College vote is either intentionally lying or seriously misinformed regarding the FACTS. :)
look, not to get too into the weedy details, but the difference between BLM protests and january 6th insurrection is like the difference between a foot massage and oral sex.
Yep.
Yep, yep.
Michale,
Yesterday you called into question my FACT that this 6JC witch hunt was SOLELY about taking down President Trump..
There is NO OTHER CONSIDERATION beyond that..I think the FACTS prove beyond ANY doubt that I was completely dead on ballz right and that you were wrong.. :D
I don't know what you're talking about.
Of course, the 6JC is about taking down Trump! And, of course, they are wasting their time. Not because Trump doesn't deserve to be brought down but rather because there are more important things that are happening now, today, that threaten American democracy.
Anybody who has been following along with the sad state of the US political landscape and the dangerous behavior of Trump et al. knows well what he and his cohorts did after the 2020 election and lead up to the 2021 Inauguration, including the certification process by Congress and the attack on the Capitol, all because Trump is a sore loser.
But, like Joshua has said,
As much attention as Donald gets for his part in allowing this to happen, it's very unfortunate if that's the only take away. In my opinion a much bigger issue is our government's failure to take domestic terrorists seriously. Proud boys, oath keepers and other "American" terrorist groups need to get just as much attention as Al Qaeda or ISIS.,
Trump is merely the tip of the iceberg and the committee should be focusing on what isn't so clearly visible but even more dangerous.
THAT is what I was trying to say.
JL,
However, a series of peaceful demonstrations where once every fifteen times the emotions overflow into fisticuffs
And if I were talking about demonstrations that overflow into fisticuffs, you would have a point..
But I am not so you don't..
I am talking about the RIOTS where dozens of cops are killed and THOUSANDS of people are injured and BILLIONS in property is destroyed..
I am talking about Democrats (AND Weigantians) getting hysterical over a SINGLE Right Wing riot yet IGNORE the riots of the Left...
It's just not the same thing.
It is EXACTLY the same thing..
The *ONLY* difference is that there is 1000% MORE of it coming from the Left than comes from the Right..
And you'll note that there is STILL no condemnation (relatively speaking) coming from the Left over the attempted assassination of SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh...
Liz,
I don't know what you're talking about.
Of course you don't.. :D
Of course, the 6JC is about taking down Trump! And, of course, they are wasting their time.
Agreed on both points.. I am glad you see things my way now.. :D
Common ground.. It's a wonderful thing.. :D
Trump is merely the tip of the iceberg and the committee should be focusing on what isn't so clearly visible but even more dangerous.
You mean, like Democrat malfeasance and incompetence??
I agree.. THAT is unequivocally more dangerous..
But have no fear... After the mid-terms, the House WILL start focusing on the clearly and unequivocally more dangerous aspects of Democrat incompetence and corruption.. :D
look, not to get too into the weedy details, but the difference between BLM protests and january 6th insurrection is like the difference between a foot massage and oral sex.
For someone who gets sexual gratification from a foot massage, then those would be distinctions, not differences..
So, yea... Those "differences" that Democrats like to hang their hats on are not really differences.. They are distinctions...
The ONLY relevant difference between BLM/AntiFa riots and the 6 Jan riot is that we have had 22+ years of the former and only ONE incident of the latter.
Well, this is a historic occasion...
Everyone here in Weigantia concedes the point..
The 6JC is SOLELY about preventing President Trump from running again in 2024... This is accepted by all here as fact...
AND....
And we all agree that the 6JC is destined to fail...
AND
And we all agree that Democrats SHOULD be spending their time and efforts on infinitely more important matters..
And now...
Let the mealy mouth equivocation begin!!!!! :D
Why Congress Won’t Ban Assault Weapons
Republican opposition and a Justice Department study showing the 1994 ban’s limited effects leave Democrats reluctant to try to revive
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You hear that sound???
That's the sound of the air deflating from the Democrats hysterical and irrational anti-gun agenda... :D
There will NEVER be any new gun ban in our lifetimes..
NEVER...
And Crowd Based Mass Shootings will continue to happen until Democrats start acknowledging that the most prevalent commonality of mass murder incidents is MENTAL HEALTH...
NOT the tool chosen...
But, OK... OK.... I should give equal time to Left Wing rags regarding gun bans....
An assault weapons ban won’t work
This is from the Washington Post...
So, even the epitome of Left Wing rags agrees..
Banning Assault Baseball bats won't prevent bats from being used to kill people..
Banning Assault Hands/Feet won't prevent hands and feet from being used to kill people..
We have universal agreement on this point.. AGAIN.. :D
"For weeks, Democrat leaders from President Biden’s White House to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer encouraged dangerous protests against Supreme Court justices, including at their homes, to illegally threaten and intimidate them in an attempt to change the outcome of a court decision.
How many more times do we need to see political violence motivated by threatening rhetoric before Democrats stop encouraging and condoning this kind of dangerous behavior?"
-Rep. Steve Scalise
When are Democrats (and Weigantians) going to start condemning these insane acts of violence and terrorism as passionately and as vehemently as they condemn 6 Jan???
I wager 100,000 quatloos that the answer is....
NEVER... :^/
"As a victim of politically motivated violence, I’ve continually spoken out against threats made against our Supreme Court justices and elected officials – something the Biden administration can’t even condemn, let alone acknowledge. Those who are threatening these justices and disrupting neighborhoods during the dead of night should be arrested."
-Senator Rand Paul
I know, I know.. He's just a Republican so why should Democrats listen to him??
well, for one.. He is dead on ballz accurate.. :^/
For all intents and purposes, the 6JC is nothing more than the 3rd Impeachment Trial of President Trump..
Leave it to Democrats to be so completely and utterly MORONIC that they want to impeach President Trump even if he isn't in office..
And, as we ALL have agreed here... This impeachment is going to end up in the same place that the other 2 impeachment trials ended up..
A complete and utter failure that actually makes President Trump STRONGER and Democrats weaker.. :D
I love the taste of irony in the morning.. :D
Jan. 6 Committee Pulls Dismal Ratings In Prime-Time Show Trial
Americans greeted the 3rd impeachment of President Trump with a huge collective yawn...
Democrats are simply being moronic if they think that the 6JC will help them in the mid-terms (it's only going to hurt them) and if they think that it will actually prevent President Trump from re-acquiring the Oval Office in 2024...
The 6JC is nothing more than the Russia Collusion Delusion Part Duex....
A Countdown For Joe Biden
How can the aging president expect his agenda to survive the coming midterms?
Democrats are beginning to say the quiet parts out loud..
Assuming that Joe Biden actually lasts that long, Democrats are going to ditch Joe for 2024 all but guaranteeing President Trump's return to the Oval Office...
Even more so than said return is already guaranteed...
Interesting to note..
It took Jimmy Carter 4 years to decimate this country..
Biden was able to decimate this country in just 2 years... :D
THAT's talent..
Michale,
It continues to sound very much like you hate America (and Americans) even more than Trump.
Now, THAT is sad.
Michale,
What tool can kill more people in one minute ... an assault weapon or a person's hands?
Yer makin' me laugh.
It continues to sound very much like you hate America (and Americans) even more than Trump.
Now, THAT is sad.
I can see how someone who actually hates America would say that.. :D
What tool can kill more people in one minute ... an assault weapon or a person's hands?
Does it matter to the dead?? Or to the family of the dead???
The point is, if you address the mental health issue and ignore the political agenda, you can save ALL of the ones killed by "assault weapons"... Both the ones killed by guns and the ones killed by other weapons..
But Democrats really don't care about the deaths.. Democrats PROVED that with over 63,000,000 babies killed.. :^/
They just want to push their agenda.. That's all that matters...
Yer makin' me laugh.
Yea... Murder... ha ha... :^/
What IS it about Democrats that they ALWAYS go for the futile, the unattainable???
Taking down President Trump...
Banning rifles...
Democrats ALWAYS choose the lost causes.. And ALWAYS fail..
Failure.. Along with hypocrisy, it's a defining characteristic of Democrats..
Your comments speak for themselves.
Thank God ... 'cause I am out of time.
Hay Bashi...
Remember how you once said that, politically, Sarah Palin peaked at state governor?? :D
What tool can kill more people in one minute ... an assault weapon or a person's hands?
Depends on the person. ;)
Depends on the person. ;)
Good point.. :D
A rare link.
Eli Steele: Jodi Shaw and the Racial Mask of Whiteness
Former Smith College employee continues to stand up against identity politics at the school
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/eli-steele-jodi-shaw-racial-mask-whiteness
This displays PERFECTLY everything wrong with today's Democrat Party...
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Hay Bashi...
Remember how you once said that, politically, Sarah Palin peaked at state governor?? :D
Hay Michale...
Remember how you said Trump would get a third of the black vote in '20? And how you broke your word and welched on your wager?
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I can see how someone who actually hates America would say that.. :D
Of course you're joking. We all know Liz probably doesn't even carry hate DNA as she's Canadian, eh?
If there's an exception to that it's that Elizabeth clearly hates UKRAINE. Sad.
Bipartisan group of senators announce agreement on gun control
An agreement on gun control that has NOTHING to do with guns and everything to do with mental health... :D
I love it.. :D
Of course you're joking. We all know Liz probably doesn't even carry hate DNA as she's Canadian, eh?
Of course I was joking...
Liz hating America is as crazy as Liz claiming that *I* hate America...
I was simply pointing out Liz's craziness and non-serious claim to her.. :D
Remember how you said Trump would get a third of the black vote in '20? And how you broke your word and welched on your wager?
Give it a rest, MC.. I paid the wager, just not to the place you wanted it to go....
Leave the poor dead horse to rest in peace and quit beating on it, eh? :eyeroll:
Put it this way, MC..
Suppose you and I made a wager on Russia invading Ukraine..
If you lost the wager, you would have to donate $100 to Putin's war effort in Ukraine..
Would you follow thru and pay Putin???
Or would you honor the wager, but just pay it to a Ukraine Relief Agency???
Of course, being the decent guy you are, you would donate to the Ukraine Relief Agency and give the big mighty finger to Putin..
So it is with this situation.. Minus the big mighty finger..
Circumstances changed, MC...
Deal with it and quit whining about it..
I made a bet with myself as to how many people would read the awesome commentary in #55 and who they would be..
I'll let ya'all know if I am right or not.. :D
Give it a rest, MC.. I paid the wager, just not to the place you wanted it to go....
Leave the poor dead horse to rest in peace and quit beating on it, eh? :eyeroll:
The loser doesn't get to change who they pay...at least among honorable men.
When you remind someone of an ill-advised whatever you'll get reminded back, if anyone is paying attention to you.
If you lost the wager, you would have to donate $100 to Putin's war effort in Ukraine..
Would you follow thru and pay Putin???
First, would I keep my word? Yep! as it's how honorable men behave.
Second, you gave some complete bullshit excuse for breaking your word and stiffing CW and yet you're here every morning polluting the man's Comments Section. Sad.
You are WITHOUT honor!
-Worf et al
Put another way,
batlhHa' vanglu'taHaIS quvchavbe'lu'
One does not achieve honor while acting dishonorably.
If there's an exception to that it's that Elizabeth clearly hates UKRAINE. Sad.
Actually, Elizabeth is the only one around here who actually loves and cares about Ukraine.
The US and NATO sure are acting like they don't care if Ukraine ceases to exist so long as the great bear is weakened.
Depends on the person. ;)
No, it actually doesn't.
@liz,
here's someone who might dispute your assertion. :)
Also, since when did you become spokescanuck for RT?
@m[55],
Anecdotal fallacy. The individual case sounds quite plausible. The sweeping generalizations that the author extrapolates from it, not so much.
JL
You know what Joshua, talk to me when Ukraine wins the war against Russia. Heh.
This war should never have happened. If Ukraine hadn't listened to the bad advice it was getting from the US and NATO, it probably wouldn't have happened. Of course, Biden made sure we'd never find out if this stupid, unnecessary war could have been avoided!
But, now that war has been raging for a few months, Ukraine is losing more territory than it would have had to had it negotiated with Russia - before or even shortly after the war started.
Nothing you can say to me or imagine in your fantasy world can change the facts on the ground - before, since and after this war.
Also, I have far better sources than RT or Ukrainian facebook pages ... or the US military, for that matter.
What, no music?
getting jiggy wit it
I keep waiting for someone else to get this party rollin' but it never happens. :(
So, welcome everyone to the CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party where we leave all of the political chatter aside in favour of basking in the glory of the music.
And, since up here it is Indigenous History Month, here are a few of my favourite Kashtin tunes.
Kashtin formed in 1984, a duo from the Innu Nation in Quebec. I was lucky enough to see them live a few times. I learned a few of their songs phonetically so that I could sing along at their shows.
Turn it loud!!!]]
Kashtin - Tshinanu
Kashtin - Tipatshimun
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(one of my favorite numbers, Elizabeth. And I'm a"numbers guy" ;D)
Also, since when did you become Spokescanuck for RT?
A Spokescanuck? Stop it -- you're Killing me! (4:14)
Kashtin - E uassiuan
Everytime I listen to my Kashtin cds outside in the beautiful backyard of my building by the pool, everyone else does, too! :-)
The PowWow Drum
Buffy Sainte-marie - Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee
Buffy Sainte-marie - Starwalker
@caddy [76],
Lauryn was in my high school class. Incredibly nice person, no idea why she's become so media-maligned.
When i was sleeping in Mr Huntington's history class, this is who was sitting at the desk in front of me.
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...where we leave all of the political chatter aside in favour of basking in the glory of the music.
Boooy are you lucky, Lisbeth! You not only have me a Ukraine Topic Sighting* but I also found Lizsplaning Ukraine in my cell phone!
So... we'll be seeing you again most promptly.
But enough about me, how about that Poteet High School Music Teacher?
Think he took acid and was a Prog Rocker much at University?
Buffy Sainte-marie - Darling, Don't Cry
Tom Jackson - Lost Souls
Soy un peredor... (3:52)
John Trudell - Crazy Horse - the original video
It's like having my family members play "DJ" for me after Sunday supper...
John Trudell - AKA Grafitti Man
Rockin' the Res
@liz[83]
Damn, that was wonderful.
vale la pena
Enjoy the rest of your evening, everyone!
D'ya ever get a song stuck in your head? Like, forever? Well I do and I have, to the point that not only do I have an every waking moment internal jukebox in my head but sometimes a tune just DOMINATES my life.
Here's a tune that has done this to me for two years. Dunno why, it just is.
The Endless Enigma. (6:43)
If you listen to the lyrics you'll understand that this is a helluva breakup song -- I mean, the guy is pissed!
K, so you (L)east Coasters are gonna bail on me?
Ah, well.
Murican JUNETEENTH is next Sunday, so I'll thank you to go with a black music theme.
Class is dismissed.
(thinking)
Until tomorrow, Lisbeth.
THENCE I'ma take you to Ukraine school.
@caddy,
We should probably have a Sunday devoted exclusively to breakup songs. It's such a rich genre.
But as for songs that dominate the internal jukebox, nothing in recent memory equals
aserejé
MC,
}}}Would you follow thru and pay Putin???{{{
First, would I keep my word? Yep! as it's how honorable men behave.
So, you would give the man money so he could kill MORE Ukrainians???
And you accuse ME of dishonor?? :eyeroll:
Apparently your love of Ukraine is not what you claimed it was.. If you would pay a man so he could kill MORE Ukrainians..
:eyeroll:
The loser doesn't get to change who they pay...at least among honorable men.
An HONORABLE man doesn't reward dishonor..
batlhHa' vanglu'taHaIS quvchavbe'lu'
Thank you.. :D
What you have just said is If one dishonors in the name of honor, one is honorable..
https://www.translate.com/klingon-english
Which is exactly what I did.. The honor was NOT to fund a place that has acted so dishonorably.. By doing so, I donated to a cause that was infinitely more honorable. Even YOU concede that because you accused the moderator (on several occasions) of taking bribes...
I am glad you see things my way now...
Perhaps we can move on, no??
Liz,
This war should never have happened. If Ukraine hadn't listened to the bad advice it was getting from the US and NATO, it probably wouldn't have happened. Of course, Biden made sure we'd never find out if this stupid, unnecessary war could have been avoided!
This Biden guy sounds like a real luser...
If only Democrats hadn't cheated and committed fraud to get him elected..
Ukraine would still be whole, it's cities would not have been bombed back to the stone age and tens of thousands of Ukrainians would still be alive today..
JL,
Anecdotal fallacy. The individual case sounds quite plausible. The sweeping generalizations that the author extrapolates from it, not so much.
And yet, there are tons of facts that support the claim that THIS is not a unique situation...
Segregated Dorms... Segregated lectures..
The new big thing on college campuses is segregation...
What happened at Smith is happening all over the country...
To deny this is to deny the facts and the reality of today's Democrat Party...
I can provide TONS of links that prove my case, if the Warden Of Weigantian gives her blessing...
If not, you'll just have to take my word for it..
What happened to Jodi Shaw is happening all over the country..
This is documented fact..
Every time I come in here Monday morning, I feel like I have walked into an elitist pretentious beatnik bar of the 60s..
Everyone going out of their way to show how hip and with it they are.. :eyeroll:
"I'm hip.. I'm with it.. daka daka..."
-Dr Evil
It's like ya'all have a contest to see who could find the most obscure, meaningless song listing.. :D
It really cracks me up... :D
Biden's White House hosted several 'defund the police' activists over the past year, visitor logs show
Biden aides have repeatedly met with anti-police activists
Looks like the DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies are still the big thing with the Biden's Handlers administration.. :^/
It's really hilarious..
Ya'all have been clamoring hysterically about wanting to DO SOMETHING about mass shootings...
And now we have a bipartisan framework agreed upon that will ACTUALLY HELP PREVENT mass shootings..
And ya'all's response??
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Of course, the "something" being done has NOTHING to do with the anti-gun hysterical agenda...
Maybe that's why there is no enthusiasm about the bipartisan framework..
It does NOTHING to further the anti-gun agenda...
Which only illustrates that Democrats are more concerned with promoting their crazy anti-gun agenda and don't really care about mass shootings beyond how these shootings serve their crazy anti-gun agenda...
This should be a happy day for everyone..
We're taking real steps towards preventing mass shootings while STILL protecting the Constitutional rights of Americans..
It's a WIN WIN...
So why aren't ya'all more enthused???
Michale,
What, you don't like Kashtin?
Michale,
And now we have a bipartisan framework agreed upon that will ACTUALLY HELP PREVENT mass shootings..
You see? This is precisely why you aren't taken very seriously around here. But, that's not really what you're after, is it ...
Liz
Non-sequitor... What exactly am I not taking seriously??
We DO have a bipartisan framework that has been agreed upon that will ACTUALLY HELP PREVENT mass shootings...
What is it, exactly, about that statement of fact that is "non serious"???
We DO have a bipartisan framework that has been agreed upon that will ACTUALLY HELP PREVENT mass shootings...
If you would allow links here, I could show you the bipartisan framework that is agreed upon...
Kashtin??? We don't need no stinkin' Kashtin... :D
The proposal includes initiatives to support state crisis intervention orders; a national expansion of mental health services for children and families; expanding mental health programs in schools; enhanced review process for gun buyers under the age of 21; penalties for straw purchases; and additional funding for school resource officers.
What's not to like??
Assuming one is not a hysterical gun-hating Democrat that is...
If you would allow links here, I could show you the bipartisan framework that is agreed upon...
Go ahead. But, that wasn't what I was talking about.
I will just refer you to ALL of your previous comments about what will and what will not reduce gun violence and leave it at that.
No Time left for nonsense.
Go ahead. But, that wasn't what I was talking about.
I posted the relevant facts in the previous comments..
I will just refer you to ALL of your previous comments about what will and what will not reduce gun violence
What you call nonsense is nothing but facts..
It's clear that gun bans DO NOT WORK...
Los Angeles proves that. Chicago proves that. New York City proves that.. Australia proves that..
The facts are OVERWHELMING and conclusive..
The *ONLY* thing that will help curb mass shootings are mental health laws..
Democrats APPEAR to be taking the proper steps towards that goal, so that is a good thing..
My point is, however, the lack of response for these positive and helpful steps towards reducing mass shootings..
It APPEARS that, if Democrats don't get to push their hysterical anti-gun agenda, they are not INTERESTED in curbing mass shootings...
That's my point..
@m,
What good does it serve you to criticize people's tastes in music? Regarding wagers, it's something we do for camaraderie and enjoyment. I don't remember what cw said to get you in such a snit, but i think you and i have always had the unspoken term that settlement could be renegotiated if the feeling was strong enough. Not everyone subscribes to that view.
Regarding the anecdotal fallacy, it can't be fixed with ten more anecdotes. If you have hard data, let me know where to look and I'll do the search myself.
JL
How Americans vacation under Biden's Handlers Administration
http://mfccfl.us/vacay.jpg
:D
Jean Luc,
What good does it serve you to criticize people's tastes in music?
Yea, yer right yer right... Apologies...
but i think you and i have always had the unspoken term that settlement could be renegotiated if the feeling was strong enough. Not everyone subscribes to that view.
And yet, they should... :D
If you have hard data, let me know where to look and I'll do the search myself.
Google "Segregation in colleges today" and you'll find all the hard data you need...
These are FACTS that are occurring in the here and now..
Speaking of Ukraine...
Russia likely to seize control of eastern Ukrainian region within weeks, US official says
The war goes badly.. It looks like Biden's Handlers are well on their way to another defeat...
Jan. 6 Hearing Disappoints This Democrat
The country needs an objective accounting of the Capitol riot, not a partisan one.
Even DEMOCRATS aren't enthused about the 6JC kangaroo court...
As Democrats are wont to do, they are incredibly mis-reading the mood of the country..
ESPECIALLY when gas prices have hit $5+ National Average...
More than $2 higher when President Trump was in charge...
Is today the day???
Dobbs??? Bruen???
It's the only thing that makes Mondays bearable... :D
It's been.. whaa?? almost a week since the assassination attempt on a SCOTUS Justice....
And only Jean Luc has condemned this heinous act...
Democrats always claim they condemn violent acts in a half-hearted mealy-mouthed generic blase' sort of way...
But when a specific ACT comes along that should be condemned in the harshest and most passionate manner???
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The peanut gallery is silent...
What does logic tell us about this???
That Democrats only give lip service to condemning violence and terrorism...
That when it comes down to it, violence and terrorism is absolutely FINE with Democrats... When said violence and terrorism is in keeping with the Democrat agenda...
No other conclusion is possible..
No Dobbs... No Bruen...
I hate Mondays... :^(
so today the agenda seems to be laying out the facts on the real election results vs. the Big Lie.
donald apparently was told by his own advisors that a lot of democratic ballots would be counted later than republican ballots, and decided with no evidence whatsoever to jump out front and claim that any votes subsequently counted against him were fraudulent.
so today the agenda seems to be laying out the facts on the real election results vs. the Big Lie.
Would that be Stacey Abrams Big Lie??
Ach, no... Of course not.. Democrats don't mind THOSE Big Lies.. :eyeroll:
You see, JL... It's confusing..
When you say BIG LIE, I dunno if you are talking about DEMOCRATS' Big Lies or what...
You need to specify...
Oh, by the bi..
I have to rescind my recommendation for FIREBITE...
Democrats won't like it at all..
Here is the theme song..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v47WOQaZsI
So, please don't watch that show.. It will upset Democrats...
AG Garland under growing pressure to enforce federal law prohibiting picketing outside justices' homes
Former Trump AG Bill Barr tells Fox News 'the law is crystal clear'
Considering the attempted assassination of SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh, one would think that enforcing the law would be a no-brainer for the US AG...
But, given it's Garland, 'no brain' seems to be the operative phrase here..
Apparently, it's a good thing he wasn't raised to the SCOTUS....
Michale [55]
So this woman is claiming that her being white is why she did not get a job that she ended up NOT applying for? It all started when she did not get to perform a rap she had written about the library in front of new students. So now she’s got a chip on her shoulder. The “white mask” drama is hilarious!
And what is with the story about the senior student who has to use a wheelchair and has a service dog? The ADA would never allow for the senior to be forced out of the room she had for years; so if the student changed rooms, it was on her own accord! Important note: this story had nothing to do with the woman bringing the lawsuit! Absolutely NOTHING!!!
Personally, I am sick of these losers blaming their epic failures on the color of their skin! If you withdraw your application from consideration, you will not get the job! It is pretty simple.
So.... Anyone watching the new series OBI WAN KENOBI??
The previews make it look really good.. :D
So this woman is claiming that her being white is why she did not get a job that she ended up NOT applying for?
No, that is not what she is claiming whatsoever..
And what is with the story about the senior student who has to use a wheelchair and has a service dog? The ADA would never allow for the senior to be forced out of the room she had for years; so if the student changed rooms, it was on her own accord!
Any facts (beyond yer inherent bigotry) to support your claim??
Personally, I am sick of these losers blaming their epic failures on the color of their skin!
You mean, like Democrats claim ALL THE TIME with their bogus claims of systemic racism??
You mean, like that??
If you withdraw your application from consideration, you will not get the job! It is pretty simple.
And if you withdraw your application because of BLATANT racism, that is perfectly OK with you???
As long as it's the racism that Democrats approve of.. :eyeroll:
Yunno.. Like Affirmative Action???
A blatant RACIST policy that Democrats champion....
Funny how that is, eh?? :D
@russ,
Once we sift through the massive generalizations of the right wing narrative, it still appears to be a case of well meaning university employees being picked on by an administration desperate to avoid public accusations of racism. I don't think you read the whole article; there's no accusation that she was passed over for a job.
JL
@m,
You're not confused, just in denial. The Big Lie is what Donald told and continues to tell about his loss in 2020. Abrams was just a garden variety sore loser; Donald was such a soreliest loser that he encouraged the support of actual terrorists, and refused to deploy federal resources to stop them.
JL,
Ahhhh... So the big lie narrative from the REPUBLICAN is bad...
The big lie from the narrative is OK.. :^D
and refused to deploy federal resources to stop them.
Not factually accurate..
President Trump offered the troops..
Pelosi refused the offer..
These are the facts..
Ahhhh... So the big lie narrative from the REPUBLICAN is bad...
The big lie from the narrative is OK.. :^D
OK, my fingers got ahead....
Allow me to rephrase..
Ahhhh... So the big lie narrative from the REPUBLICAN is bad...
The big lie narrative from the DEMOCRAT is OK.. :^D
DEMOCRAT = run o the mill sore loserism...
REPUBLICAN = terroristic apocalyptic sore loserism..
In short..
Different standards based on Party affiliation...
Gotcha...
And what was the Russia Collusion delusion???
A case of Democrat sore loserism...
All you are pointing out is distinctions..
Not any tangible differences..
"The relevant federal statute prohibits pickets and parades in front of a judge's home, including for the purpose of influencing a judge. I would love to know why Merrick Garland is refusing to enforce this law as protesters continue to gather at the justices' private residences – especially after the apparent attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh."
-Judicial Crisis Network executive director Carrie Severino
This is indeed a good question..
What is Biden's Handlers answer???
Mueller's investigation found significant Russian election interference on trump's behalf. He may not have participated in it, but Donald very publicly welcomed it.
As for Abrams sore loserism: not okay, just not equivalent.
And that silliness about trump offering police or national guard reinforcements and Pelosi refusing them? false.
I'm fully aware that you can fire off right wing myths and false equivalencies about Jan 6 much faster than i could ever refute them, so i guess it's one of those agree to disagree moments.
Mueller's investigation found significant Russian election interference on trump's behalf.
Not factually accurate..
He may not have participated in it, but Donald very publicly welcomed it.
So??? Welcoming good fortune is not a crime..
Democrats welcomed the good fortune that allowed Biden to hide in his basement for the entire election..
As for Abrams sore loserism: not okay, just not equivalent.
Sure it is.. Sore loserism is sore loserism..
And that silliness about trump offering police or national guard reinforcements and Pelosi refusing them? false.
Nope.. Factually accurate..
WASHINGTON (TND) — A Capitol Police timeline of the days and weeks surrounding Jan. 6 shows former President Donald Trump’s Department of Defense (DOD) offered the National Guard’s assistance in the days leading up to the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol, validating claims from Trump administration officials that were said to be false by liberal fact-checkers.
That comes from a LIBERAL Media Network..
I'de post the link but that would get me in trouble with the Warden Of Weigantia... :D
so i guess it's one of those agree to disagree moments.
Agreed... I have the facts on my side, as illustrated above, so agreeing to disagree is the only logical alternative.. :D
The ONLY difference between President Trump's sore loserism and Stacey Abrams sore loserism and the Democrats' 2016 sore loserism is that one was from a GOP'er and the other two were from Democrats..
I could also point to Democrats and their 2000 and 2004 sore loserism.....
Democrats are RANK with sore loserism...
JL
She’s filed a lawsuit claiming discrimination. What else is there? Not getting to perform her rap? Whatever her claims, they must be weak if the article spends a good portion of time telling other people’s stories.
Whatever her claims, they must be weak if the article spends a good portion of time telling other people’s stories.
Other people's stories that support HER story...
I am not surprised you missed the whole point of the article...
Democrats simply CAN'T accept the fact that they are still the racist Party...
The FACT that Democrats supports Affirmative Action is blatant PROOF of the fact that the Democrat Party is STILL the Racist Party..
Biden economic adviser says White House hasn't 'missed much at all' on inflation
Inflation hit 8.6% in May, reaching another 40-year high
Jimmy Carter, Part Duex...
Republicans hold strong.. :D
Senate Republicans who struck deal with Dems fought off push to raise assault weapons purchase age to 21
Framework for a gun bill deal was agreed to by ten Dems and ten Republicans
Also on the list of Democrat proposals, the Cornyn aide said, were a 21-day waiting period for those under 21 when buying any firearm; a high-capacity magazine ban; universal background checks; safe storage requirements for all firearms in homes; criminal penalties for not storing firearms properly in the home; and a license requirement to purchase an assault weapon.
Republicans said, "NOT GONNA HAPPEN" and Democrats caved!! :D
I'M LOVIN IT!!! :D
WOW!!! Whatta concept, eh!!???
Coinbase CEO tells unhappy employees to 'quit and find a company you believe in'
Coinbase is the latest company to face an employee uprising
WORK... Or be fired...
Note to Democrats:
Society doesn't care about your feelings..
You don't want to work; you want to live like a king
But the big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing
You're makin' the most of your losin' streak
Some call it sick, but I call it weak
-THE EAGLES, Get Over It
:D
@russ,
Hostile work environment doesn't require financial cost beyond being unable to safely work somewhere. The college appears to have a pattern of overreacting to any accusation of racial bias. That's not "because she's white," it's because the college would rather scapegoat their employees than develop a system that resolves conflicts more fairly.
Michale
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President Trump offered the troops..
Offered the troops!? Heh. On what planet does the President of the United States need Pelosi's permission to deploy troops? He doesn't.
The lying blowholes on Fox News also keep claiming this ridiculous BS that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer turned Trump down. I guess they think you're stupid and totally unaware that Mitch McConnell was the Majority Leader in the Senate.
Pelosi refused the offer..
McConnell refused too? As if either one of them could refuse! Duh.
You do realize this BS has been debunked multiple times, right? If the President of the United States wants to call out troops, he calls them out.
Trump obviously knows the Guard is under his control and not under the control of Pelosi. In point of fact, Trump has already stated that he called the National Guard immediately:
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In point of fact, Trump refused to call the National Guard on January 6, and there wasn't a damn thing stopping him from doing it. Pelosi has no authority over the troops.
None of this is rocket science, you know. :)