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Democrats Move Forward On Protecting Privacy

[ Posted Tuesday, July 19th, 2022 – 15:00 UTC ]

There is no right to privacy specifically enumerated in the United States Constitution or any of its amendments. According to the current Supreme Court, this means that it does not legitimately exist as a foundational right of American citizens. Democrats, for over half a century, have been complacent in relying on previous Supreme Court rulings which did spell out what the implied right to privacy encompassed: the right to marry someone of a different race, the right to purchase and use contraceptives, the right to an abortion, and the right of gay couples to marry (among others). All of those spring from the same right to privacy, but one of them obviously does not exist anymore at the national level.

For all that time -- all those decades -- Congress has never passed any law which enshrined those rights, or the basic right of privacy itself. They all figured the court had ruled, therefore passing a law was unnecessary. They were wrong, obviously.

The abortion battle has only begun, at least from the Democratic point of view. But the other rights are important too, and they're politically a lot easier to address. Which is what the House Democrats are kicking off today. [I should mention that as I write this, floor votes have not happened yet.] The word is that two bills -- the Respect For Marriage Act and the Right To Contraception Act -- will be coming up for a vote today. Respectively, they would guarantee the federal right to marriage equality for all, and guarantee access to contraception for all. An interracial marriage rights bill may happen too, but has not been scheduled for today (that I am aware of).

These bills were designed as "messaging" bills, but that doesn't mean they don't have a chance of actually becoming law. A messaging bill is when one party decides to hold a vote on an issue that is likely doomed in the Senate (or by presidential veto, sometimes), but that will put lots of members of the opposition party on the record as having voted against it. Then during the next congressional campaign, the party which forced the messaging vote runs ads against those who voted against it: "Senator Smith voted against allowing gay couples to marry! What decade does he think we're in?!?"

The contraception bill is likely going to be the least contentious. After all, even conservatives aren't all that anti-contraception anymore. So I could easily see that bill (or some version of it -- currently some GOP senators are objecting to "the language" of the bill, meaning it might go through a rewrite in the Senate) actually getting 60 votes in the Senate and being signed into law by President Joe Biden. The gay marriage one is on an issue that was decided much more recently and was a lot more politically contentious from the start. But it has become less and less so, over time.

When Republicans lost the issue at the Supreme Court, for the most part they moved on. Gay marriages started happening everywhere, the sky did not actually fall as a result, and the legal squabbles were reduced to country clerks who balked and reluctant cakemakers and wedding venues. The basic question of gay marriage, however, was considered settled -- much to the relief of a lot of Republican politicians who were suddenly no longer confident that their bigotry was winning the voters over. The country as a whole became much more accepting of gay marriage in the years leading up to the Supreme Court decision, which made it easier for the Republicans to back down and start dropping the issue from their public statements entirely. And since then, the public has gotten even more supportive of marriage equality.

But that doesn't mean all of them truly got on board with it. So it will indeed be interesting to see how many of them -- in the House and in the Senate -- will actually vote to enact marriage equality rights into federal law. The number might just be surprisingly high. High enough to defeat a filibuster, even.

So far, the Republican leadership has not been whipping its members against the bill. That is a good sign -- they're allowing what is usually called a "vote of conscience" on the issue, with the party not giving guidance one way or the other. This frees up the members to vote how they wish -- whatever they think their constituents might support.

Will it add up to 10 Republican senators, though? I have no real idea. In the House, Republicans mostly either come from gerrymandered ruby-red districts that would still elect them even if they voted against basic privacy rights, or they come from much more competitive districts where they might actually see voting for such rights as a political positive for them. Either way, the way House members look at the issue is through a very localized lens. In the Senate, of course, Republicans have to get elected statewide, and therefore have to appeal to a wider slice of the public. There are still (of course) entire ruby-red states, but in many states voting against gay marriage rights might hurt Republicans trying to get re-elected. But are there enough of them to break the inevitable filibuster? That will be interesting to see.

This is a fairly unusual situation, since normally messaging bills don't actually have a prayer of passing. They're seen as doomed, but just a normal part of the game of politics. But this time around, the two bills might have a much bigger chance of success, since Republicans truly do want to counter the Democratic narrative of: "They're coming for gay marriage and contraception next!" A Republican disagreeing with that in an interview is one thing, but voting either for or against it really puts everyone on the record. Which is why the bills are moving forward in the first place, even if they don't wind up passing. Because the voters really should see which side of all the privacy issues Republicans are on. The political fight over abortion is going to be a long one, but Democrats could wind up at least enshrining the right to contraception and gay marriage into federal law right now. And if it works and enough Republicans vote for it to pass, then it simply won't matter that Democrats won't have the issue for the midterms -- because they'll be out there campaigning on: "We're fighting for abortion rights, and in the meantime we got gay marriage rights and the right to contraception passed and on President Biden's desk!" And that's a lot better than just some political messaging bill for a midterm election.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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79 Comments on “Democrats Move Forward On Protecting Privacy”

  1. [1] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Update:

    Right after posting this, the Respect For Marriage Act passed the House on a vote of 267-157. 47 Republicans voted for it.

    -CW

  2. [2] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:

    Update 2:

    The RFMA also included intrracial marriage rights. From the Washington Post article on it passing:

    Forty-seven Republicans joined all Democrats in support of the Respect for Marriage Act that also would protect interracial marriage and repeal the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between one man and one woman.

    -CW

  3. [3] 
    Chris Weigant wrote:
  4. [4] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    There is no right to privacy specifically enumerated in the United States Constitution or any of its amendments.

    You mean besides,

    Fourth Amendment*

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    * People don't know this but it's part of the so-called Bill of Rights!

    HOW does this not settle the entire abortion question?

    Unless one believes the Founders wanted American women to die due to the whims of a radical minority, that is. One that might want to impose their beliefs on everyone because religious freedom. One that might even try to rewrite our history to make that happen.

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    This seems self evident from the above text. What am I missing, CW?

  5. [5] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Caddy,

    Also, what about the part of the Constitution or Bill of Rights that says something to the effect that any right not explicitly enumerated in the body of the constitution the people reserve unto themselves without delegating to their representatives? Isn't it the nineteenth amendment or something?

    Has there been any case before SCOTUS that actually argued that the right of privacy does implicitly exist? I guess not but I'd love to know the Court's reasoning on why it doesn't!

  6. [6] 
    Kick wrote:

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Amendment XIV, Section 1, United States Constitution

    *

    Freedom from state-imposed roles is fundamental to equality for all citizens of the United States. The Constitution makes clear that you are a citizen if you are "born." If female citizens are allowed to marry male citizens, then it is obviously a violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution to deny male citizens the same rights of female citizens to marry a male. Similarly, under the Equal Protection Clause, it will be constitutional for a state to order women to give forced birth when a state requires forced birth of men.

    Since the Constitution doesn't specifically grant rights to zygotes, fetuses, and embryos but it does specifically grant rights to "born citizens," the issue of whether or not a state can make laws that require a woman to put her life in danger is already answered therein.

    Also:

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Amendment IX, United States Constitution

    *

    Not rocket science... even (especially) for those who claim to be "strict textualists." :)

  7. [7] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Why, thank you Kick. Some of the informed citizenry down here in Weigantia are readily cranking out the facts.

    Almost (whoops too late, it does) makes me wonder if CW lead of this column to see if anyone paying attention to what's pretty obviously wrong.

  8. [8] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    4

    * People don't know this but it's part of the so-called Bill of Rights!

    Some of "the People" do know this. :)

    HOW does this not settle the entire abortion question?

    I personally believe the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution -- Amendment XIV -- along with other parts, some of which you mentioned in your comment, does make it obviously clear to those with a basic understanding of simple English words.

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    *
    What the hell is this? ;) Heh

  9. [9] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    "It's your target ... unless it's not big enough for you."

    Heh.

    What movie is that from?

  10. [10] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    "It's your new target ... unless it's not big enough for you."

    There, that makes it easier. :)

  11. [11] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    5

    Also, what about the part of the Constitution or Bill of Rights that says something to the effect that any right not explicitly enumerated in the body of the constitution the people reserve unto themselves without delegating to their representatives? Isn't it the nineteenth amendment or something?

    Amendment IX. Very good form, Canada. I posted my answer before I read your question. GMTA. On behalf of "we born citizens," I give you full credit for even knowing the amendment exists. :)

    Has there been any case before SCOTUS that actually argued that the right of privacy does implicitly exist? I guess not but I'd love to know the Court's reasoning on why it doesn't!

    * Union Pacific Railway Co. v. Botsford, May 25, 1891

    The SCOTUS rejected the right of Union Pacific to compel the plaintiff to submit to physical examination, writing: "No right is held more sacred, or is more carefully guarded, by the common law, than the right of every individual to the possession and control of his own person, free from all restraint or interference of others…."

    * Griswold v. Connecticut, June 7, 1965

    The SCOTUS held that the constitutional right to privacy, derived from the "penumbras and emanations" of the Bill of Rights, encompasses the right of married persons to use contraceptives. Justice Goldberg, in concurrence, relied extensively on the Ninth Amendment, which states that the specific rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are not exhaustive.

    * Eisenstadt v. Baird, March 22, 1972,

    The SCOTUS held that a statute that allowed the provision of contraceptives to married adults, while prohibiting it for unmarried adults, violated the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. In the course of its decision, the Court recognized that the right to privacy protects access to contraceptives for the married and unmarried alike. The opinion states, "If the right of privacy means anything, it is the right of the individual, married or single, to be free from unwarranted governmental intrusion into matters so fundamentally affecting a person as the decision whether to bear or beget a child."

  12. [12] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [8]

    Kick wrote:


    MtnCaddy
    4

    * People don't know this but it's part of the so-called Bill of Rights!

    Some of "the People" do know this. :)

    (Note to Self: dial down the humor sophistication levels for Kick.

    It not only won't rub the lotion on its skin, so it gets the hose again it also didn't catch my gratuitous tongue in cheek Trump reference ... tailored to reach Weigantia's MAGA crowd, hello?)

    It's NOT funny if you make me have to explain it, spank you very much.*smh*

    (thinking)

    'Scuse me while I go fetch the hose ... ;D

  13. [13] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    *UPON FURTHER REVIEW*

    (Gawd, I miss football)

    In light of your scholarly Constitutional contributions this evening, I'ma let Mr. Hose take the rest of the night off. There's always tomorrow, heh.

  14. [14] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    12

    (Note to Self: dial down the humor sophistication levels for Kick.

    No need whatsoever.

    It not only won't rub the lotion on its skin, so it gets the hose again it also didn't catch my gratuitous tongue in cheek Trump reference ... tailored to reach Weigantia's MAGA crowd, hello?)

    Of course, I heard you; who do you think you're dealing with?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssF_xhn3oKg

    It's NOT funny if you make me have to explain it, spank you very much.*smh*

    I thought it was funny with no need to explain.

    (thinking)

    'Scuse me while I go fetch the hose ... ;D

    You do know how this movie ends, right? *big grin*

  15. [15] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    13

    Heh. :)

  16. [16] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [14]

    [15]

    Ahhhh, yes! What's better than getting a smile from Weigantia right before beddie time?

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Point out one example where you supported anything that Democrats did or said and actually meant it.

    I voted for Odumbo.... :^/

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    You didn't so you can't. You take sweeping generalizations to new heights, every single time you make a comment. Every. Single. Comment. Period.

    You mean, like ya'all do with Republicans and President Trump supporters??

    You mean, like that??? :eyeroll:

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    No, I can blame you. Because, you are part of the problem. Try being part of the solution for a change. You'll like it!

    Of course you do.. But the FACTS clearly show that it's the Left Wing Media's cop-hate and the Democrats' DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies that are at fault here..

    Not that I would think for ONE MINUTE you would acknowledge these facts.. :eyeroll:

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    Russ,

    Republicans are announcing that they plan to abuse the Impeachment process ahead of time... brilliant!

    Actually, no they are not.. Can't you read???

    But even if they were, so what??

    It was your moron Democrats who set the precedent for abusing the Impeachment process.

    NOW yer gonna whine and complain when the GOP returns the favor??

    Hypocrisy is not a bug in Russ' programming... It's a feature..

    :eyeroll:

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    And once again, Victoria returns desperate to start ANOTHER Weigantian flame war..

    When you are you going to learn, Victoria??

    *I* am in complete control here... You don't have any say in the matter.. :D

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, another thing, Michale, you make too many wrong-headed assumptions about people, and that goes double for Weigantians.

    Except what you call ASSUMPTIONS are nothing but facts..

    Like you got all pissy about you claiming that humans CAN control the planet's climate..

    I then pointed out your own words that stated exactly like..

    Your problem Liz is that you don't like the facts because they totally decimate your pro-Democrat agenda..

    Like your claim about *MY* sweeping generalizations that are simply the facts about Democrats.. AND Weigantians...

    Like Democrats hatred of cops that is front and center in everything they do...

    Oh sure.. Democrats pay lip service to supporting the cops... But when it actually comes to DOING something, like reigning in their cop-hating moron fellow Democrats??

    {{ccchhhiiiirrrrppppp}}{{cccchhhiiiiiirrrrrppppp}}

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    What's that, Liz?? Russ??

    You are saying that Democrats' DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies are having NO EFFECT on LEOs and their safety and well-being???

    :eyeroll:

    Defunding police, vilifying them 'at every turn' contributing to officer suicides, experts say

    'The suicides and the current climate go hand in hand,' a retired Chicago detective told Fox News Digital
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/defunding-police-vilifying-them-every-turn-contributing-officer-suicides-experts-say

    Once again.. The **FACTS** prove ya'all completely and utterly WRONG...

    But do either of ya'all CONDEMN Democrats for those policies???

    Of course not.. Matter of fact, ya'all DENY that these policies exist!!

    Just like ya'all don't condemn Democrat violence, intimidation and harassment..

    Hell, not a SINGLE one of ya'all condemned the attempted assassination of a SCOTUS Justice.. Oh sure, there might have been some mealy-mouthed generic platitude of condemning ALL political violence here are and there occasionally..

    But did ANY of ya'all condemn the Democrat acts of violence, INCLUDING an attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh with the kind of full-throated condemnation ya'all reserve for GOP and President Trump???

    {{{ccccchhhiiiirrrrrpppp}}}{{ccchhhiiirrrrppp}}

    Not even close...

    Hypocrisy is not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature..

    Point out one example where you supported anything that Democrats did or said and actually meant it.

    Point out to me ONE example where you condemned the entirety of the Democrat Party for their actions or policies and actually meant it...

    You can't, can you? :^/

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    HA!!!! Hoisted by their own Picard!!! :D

    Republicans have advantage over Democrats regarding confidence in handling education, survey shows

    A teachers union president is launching a campaign against Republicans' opposition to critical race theory curriculum.

    "This polling is such an epic self-own for Randi Weingarten. The results of Randi Weingarten’s own polling destroy her own narrative," senior fellow at the American Federation for Children Corey DeAngelis told Fox News Digital. "The results of the union-commissioned poll show that likely voters in battleground states have more confidence in Republicans than Democrats on education. The results of the union poll also show that likely voters have much more confidence in teachers and parent organizations than teachers unions. Not a good look for union bosses like Randi Weingarten."
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/republicans-advantage-over-democrats-regarding-confidence-handling-education-survey-shows

    Weirdgarten just go PWNED!!!! BY HERSELF!!!!

    BBBBWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    That is just too funny!!! :D

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    Speaking of Dumbocrats being PWNed!! :D

    Hispanic voters predict red wave, say Democrats use handouts and rhetoric to appease minorities

    All three Hispanic Americans agree the Democrats have 'lost touch' with the working class
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hispanic-voters-disenfranchised-by-democratic-party-predict-red-wave-midterms

    Hispanic Americans are sick and tired of Democrat pandering and Democrat America-hate..

    So hispanic Americans are joining the GOP by the tens of millions!!! :D

    Democrats can shove it! :D

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump-endorsed Dan Cox projected winner of Maryland's GOP gubernatorial primary

    Democrats spent nearly $2 million to meddle in Maryland's Republican gubernatorial primary
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-endorsed-dan-cox-projected-winner-marylands-gop-gubernatorial-primary

    Once again.. Democrats try to sabotage the GOP Primary???

    And President Trump biatch-slaps them down!!! :D

    President Trump wins again!!! :D

    Do Democrats *EVER* get tired of being lusers???

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, once again the Cardassian 6JC has egg all over their faces and have proven beyond ANY doubt why the Cardassian trial has ZERO credibility..

    Secret Service says no new Jan. 6 texts found after records were deleted; investigation requested

    The National Archives sent a letter Tuesday requesting the agency investigate.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/secret-service-jan-texts-found-records-deleted-investigation/story?id=87065042

    After promising the last few days that the Cardassian Court had recovered those texts and that they were "bombshells" (like the Hutch Bimbo testimony that was a "bombshell" that turned out to be total purjury)....

    The Cardassian 6JC now concedes that there ARE no texts.. That the 6JC "big reveal" is nothing but another Adam Schitt fantasy..

    Ya'all remember Adam Schitt right?? He was the Democrat Moron (Is there another kind?? :^/) who claimed he had SEEN evidence that proved President Trump colluded with Russia...

    Of course that evidence NEVER materialized and Schitt was left looking like a moron..

    Well, APPARENTLY, Schitt LIKES looking like a moron because he has made the exact same claims with the Cardassian 6JC... And lo and behold...

    NO EVIDENCE presented that proves President Trump had ANYTHING to do with the 6 Jan riot..

    I would have thought ya'all would have learned ya'all's lesson after the HUGE debacle that was the Dumbocrat Russia Collusion Delusion...

    But, apparently, ya'all are STILL in the throes of PTDS...

    "Fool me once, shame on you.. Fool me twice, shame on me.. Fool me over and over again, I must be a Trump/America hating Democrat who will believe ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous and fact-less it is.. As long as it's against President Trump..."
    -Democrat Party

    :eyeroll:

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    Speaking of the Cardassian 6JC...

    Last-chance hearing: Jan. 6 committee has yet to establish a criminal case against Trump

    The eighth and final scheduled hearing of the House Jan. 6 select committee is scheduled for Thursday, and its members reportedly will present a time line of events on that day, particularly the 187 minutes between the end of then-President Trump’s speech on the Ellipse and his call for supporters to leave the Capitol.

    It will again replay moments from the horrific to the heroic. What it has not shown thus far, however, is what was promised at the outset: a clear criminal case against Trump.

    At the start of the hearings, committee members promised they had the long-sought smoking-gun evidence — new material that would close the circle on Trump. Committee member Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) indicated he thought there was now “credible evidence” to support a variety of criminal charges. His colleague, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), said the committee would show that Trump organized a “coup” on Jan. 6, 2021.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3565615-last-chance-hearing-jan-6-committee-has-yet-to-establish-a-criminal-case-against-trump/

    Yep.. Just like with the Russia Collusion Delusion, Democrats and Trump/America hating GOP'ers claimed all up and down the line that they had smoking-gun evidence that proves CONCLUSIVELY that President Trump colluded with the Russians..

    Of course, that "evidence" only existed in the wet dreams of said Democrats and Trump/America hating GOP'ers..

    And now history repeats itself..

    What I really don't get is how ya'all could be so completely and utterly gullible to buy into Democrat bullshit... ***AGAIN***!!!

    I mean, SERIOUSLY.... Are ya'all so consumed with hate for America and hate for President Trump.... Are ya'all so ensnared in the throes of President Trump Derangement Syndrome that ya'all are WILLINGLY lead down this bullshit path for a SECOND time!!???

    Where is ya'all's pride and dignity?? :^/

    I guess when you are in the throes and PTDS pride and dignity, not to mention ANY semblance of rational critical thought, goes out the window..

    I'll be glad when the GOP takes control of the House and Senate..

    Maybe ya'all will return back to SOME semblance of ya'all's former intelligent selves...

    At least SOME of ya'all will.... I hope.. Others are hopelessly mentally impaired for life..

    Too many drugs... :^/

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    How do we know the 6JC is nothing but a Cardassian Show Trial??

    Yet, on the eve of the primetime hearing this week, committee members sound strikingly less prosecutorial. Rep. Elaine Luria (D-Va.) told CNN that “I look at it as a dereliction of duty. He didn’t act. He did not take action to stop the violence.”

    It is difficult to make a criminal case over what an official failed to do. Yet the last hearing seemed to focus on a number of things that did not occur, from a draft tweet that was not sent to an executive order that was never signed. There were discussions of appointing Trump attorney Sidney Powell as a special counsel, seizing voting machines or replacing the Justice Department’s leadership. As unnerving as these proposals were, they also were not carried out.

    It is the type of evidence used to show mens rea — “guilty mind.” However, crimes generally require both guilty minds and guilty acts. Building a criminal case on the failure to act to stop the violence is a notoriously difficult case to make. It has been raised in various contexts without success even when officials had direct law enforcement duties, as in Seattle with the CHOP zone in the summer of 2020. It is even more difficult when the House committee has blocked any serious investigation into the potentially contributing failure of Congress to take better precautions before the riot, another costly act of omission.

    Because it ONLY looks at one minor aspect and ignores the FACTS that prove it was Congressional unprepared-ness that directly lead to the 6 Jan riot..

    But THOSE facts were ruled by the Cardassian court to be irrelevant...

    That's what Cardassian courts do.. :eyeroll:

    But the fact is, the 6JC exists for one reason and one reason only..

    To attack President Trump and prevent him from running in 2024...

    Because Democrats KNOW that they can't beat President Trump in a FAIR and legal election untainted by fraud...

    Democrats are scared shitless that President Trump will once again return to the Oval Office..

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    AOC fakes being handcuffed after arrest at abortion rights protest
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/19/aoc-fakes-being-handcuffed-after-abortion-rights-protest-arrest/

    The perfect epitome of the Democrat Party...

    FAKE.... :eyeroll:

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    “You guys… @AOC is such a victim that she has to pretend that the big, mean policeman put her in handcuffs…She probably also thinks he wants to date her.”
    -Tim Young.

    “@AOC is such an expert at getting attention and narrative building that she PRETENDED to be handcuffed just so she could have this image on social media. There are no handcuffs on her lmfaoooo.”
    -Jason Howerton

    What *IS* it about Democrats that they are such morons???

    :eyeroll:

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    I can PROVE to you without ANY doubt how bad your Democrat Party is..

    Your Democrat Party made a scumbag thug and criminal like George Floyd a Democrat hero...

    Your Democrat Party made a scumbag thug and criminal like Michael Brown a Democrat hero...

    Your Democrat Party made a scumbag thug and criminal like Trayvon Martin a Democrat hero...

    Your Democrat Party made a scumbag thug and criminal like Duante Wright a Democrat hero...

    Your Democrat Party made a scumbag thug and criminal like Samuel DuBose a Democrat hero...

    You want to see the character and integrity of a group??

    Look at the people they honor...

    Your Democrat Party honors thugs and terrorists and scumbags..

    No further proof needed on how bad and how un-American your Democrat Party is.. :^/

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:


    END OF WATCH

    Police Officer Daniel Vasquez
    North Kansas City Police Department, Missouri
    End of Watch: Tuesday, July 19, 2022


    And remind the few...
    When ill of us they speak..
    That we are all that stands between..
    The monsters and the weak...

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    DEMOCRAT INSURRECTION!!!!!

    Capitol Police chief says ‘Colbert 9’ lied about having credentials before arrest

    Stephen Colbert 'Late Show' staffers lied about having credentials before arrest, US Capitol Police chief says
    The ‘Colbert 9’ were arrested in an unauthorized area of a U.S. Capitol building in June

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/stephen-colbert-late-show-staffers-lied-credentials-arrest-house

    Funny how these Democrats are treated completely different then the Trump supporters who were guilty of nothing more than these Democrats are guilty of...

    :eyeroll:

    Hypocrisy is not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature..

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    I know, I know...

    "Well.. uh.. er.. THAT's different!!"

    It ALWAYS is with you Democrats.. :eyeroll:

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    As far as this commentary goes??

    There is no right to privacy when you are killing a sentient human being..

    No way, no where, no how...

    I am actually surprised I have to explain this to ya'all.. :^/

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    Here's a couple good t-shirts for our bet, Jean Luc.. :D


    REASONS


    ARMING THE TALIBAN

    But these would likely actually get you in real trouble at your work, so I won't consider these..

    But they are pretty awesome furthertheless.. :D

    "Furthertheless is NOT a word!! STOP using it!!"
    -Charlie Sheen, SPIN CITY

    :D

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    ‘Woke’ Corporate Support of BLM Has Deadly Consequences

    You’ve heard the chants in the streets of America: “Pigs in a blanket, fry ‘em like bacon.”

    You’ve seen the graffiti scrawled on walls and monuments and broken windows in the wake of “peaceful protests”: ACAB, which stands for “All Cops Are Bastards.”

    The lives of law enforcement officers who risk everything, every day, to serve and protect have been endangered by “woke” politicians, prosecutors, judges, and activists for years. In 2020, anti-police hatred intensified terrifyingly under the influence of the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation (“BLM”), whose rioters called openly for police officers to die.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/07/20/woke_corporate_support_of_blm_has_deadly_consequences_147919.html

    The Democrat Party...

    The Hate-Cops Party...

    And the condemnation from Weigantians???

    {{{ccchhhiiirrrrpppp}}}{{ccchhhiiirrrrpppp}}

    "Silence gives assent.."
    -The Democrat Party

    :^/

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:


    ‘Woke’ Corporate Support of BLM Has Deadly Consequences
    COMMENTARY
    By Dominique Luzuriaga RiveraJuly 20, 2022
    ‘Woke’ Corporate Support of BLM Has Deadly Consequences(AP Photo/Mary Altaffer, Pool)
    You’ve heard the chants in the streets of America: “Pigs in a blanket, fry ‘em like bacon.”

    You’ve seen the graffiti scrawled on walls and monuments and broken windows in the wake of “peaceful protests”: ACAB, which stands for “All Cops Are Bastards.”

    The lives of law enforcement officers who risk everything, every day, to serve and protect have been endangered by “woke” politicians, prosecutors, judges, and activists for years. In 2020, anti-police hatred intensified terrifyingly under the influence of the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation (“BLM”), whose rioters called openly for police officers to die.

    And they were heard. In 2021, according to FBI data, a record 73 cops were killed in the line of duty. That’s the highest number in a single year since the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.

    In this murderous mission, BLM had partners: “woke” corporate leaders of names and brands you know, including Coca-Cola, Comcast/NBC, Gatorade, Levi’s, Microsoft, Nike, Papa Johns, PayPal, Peloton, and Target, among others.

    It’s time for those corporations to take responsibility for their actions, because the consequences are all too real for families like mine – and for every community in America.

    My name is Dominique Luzuriaga Rivera. I’m 23 years old and I am the widow of NYPD Detective Jason Rivera – the love of my life ever since we met in kindergarten – who was killed in the line of duty on January 21, 2022.

    Jason was a rookie. He and his partner, Detective Wilbert Mora, were responding to a domestic violence call when they were ambushed and shot in the head by a convicted felon and probation violator. Both Jason and Wilbert died of their injuries.

    The murderer’s rap sheet was so long he should never have been back on the streets. Lenient prosecutors taking advantage of New York’s disastrous “bail reform” law gave him his undeserved and deadly freedom.

    Jason and Wilbert were honored by thousands of fellow NYPD and New Yorkers at their shared funeral at St. Patrick’s Cathedral. When Jason and I got married I never imagined I would be delivering his eulogy three months later, and after I told the story of our life together I called out Alvin Bragg, the “woke” Manhattan District Attorney, by name. He and every prosecutor turning a blind eye to the carnage being inflicted on law enforcement must be held accountable.

    This is ya'all's Democrat Party... :^/

    NO ONE can factually claim that they support cops if they support the Democrat Party...

    **NO ONE**

    You either support cops.. Or you support Democrats..

    You can't do both..

  40. [40] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    What about the cops who support Democrats?

    What have you got to say about them?

  41. [41] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    What did you say? I didn't hear that ...

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    What about the cops who support Democrats?

    What have you got to say about them?

    They are politicians, not real cops..

    No real cop would support a Party that actively hates cops and does everything in their power to see cops get killed..

    What did you say? I didn't hear that ...

    I said:

    They are politicians, not real cops..

    No real cop would support a Party that actively hates cops and does everything in their power to see cops get killed..

    Did ya hear that?? :D

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    REAL cops support the GOP..

    Period.. END TRANS...

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    Look at what Democrats support..

    NO CASH BAIL

    PRO CRIMINAL

    ANTI VICTIM

    DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE..

    How can ANY real cop support such a Party??

    What's that?? I didn't hear you... :^/

  45. [45] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Democrats of different stripes support an incredibly wide range of positions, from radical left to center-right. And unlike the Republicans, they are not usually ruled by their extreme factions. Presuming that true police officers won't vote for a party based solely on policies most party members don't support, is a massive straw man.

  46. [46] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You're too funny, Michale. Let me know when you stop making non-serious comments, okay?

  47. [47] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    If your comments demonstrated what Joshua wrote about in [45], then they would find a great deal of agreement and common ground here in Weigantia and would lead to a far more robust discussion Re. issues, problems, solutions and the best paths forward.

    You can trust me on this! :)

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    Democrats of different stripes support an incredibly wide range of positions, from radical left to center-right. And unlike the Republicans, they are not usually ruled by their extreme factions. Presuming that true police officers won't vote for a party based solely on policies most party members don't support, is a massive straw man.

    For me, personally... Hating cops is a "defining" characteristic... Like pedophilia or racism..

    ANYONE who hates cops is a scumbag.. Like a child molester or a racist..

    There is no gray area..

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the Democrat Party as a whole, hates cops..

    QED...

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    For me, personally... Hating cops is a "defining" characteristic... Like pedophilia or racism..

    ANYONE who hates cops is a scumbag.. Like a child molester or a racist..

    And nothing anyone can say will change that simple fact...

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hating cops has a lot in common with racism.

  52. [52] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Sigh.

  53. [53] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    I am a registered Democrat, and i support police officers, NOT any form of defunding or cash free bail. That is true of a vast majority of Dems. It's not part of the party platform either, just the typical opposition strawman.

  54. [54] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yes. Michale lives on the extremes so that makes it very difficut to see actual reality. But, I'm still going to keep trying ... :)

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    Jean Luc,

    I am a registered Democrat, and i support police officers, NOT any form of defunding or cash free bail. That is true of a vast majority of Dems.

    As I have pointed out on more than one occasion, you are the exception that emphasizes the rule.. :D

    It's not part of the party platform either, just the typical opposition strawman.

    Not factually accurate..

    The Democrat platform of DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEFUND THE POLICE is well documented and continues to this day...

    This is fact..

  56. [56] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yes. Michale lives on the extremes so that makes it very difficut to see actual reality. But, I'm still going to keep trying ... :)

    Not factually accurate..

    I simply refuse to see YOUR reality... YOUR truth...

    There's a difference between your reality and your truth and actual reality and actual facts....

  57. [57] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    There is only one reality and one truth and one set of facts that are neither yours nor mine.

  58. [58] 
    Michale wrote:

    And unlike the Republicans, {Democrats} are not usually ruled by their extreme factions.

    Not factually accurate..

    DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE

    'nuff said...

  59. [59] 
    Michale wrote:

    The BEST way to stop a bad guy with a gun??

    Indiana police say 'Good Samaritan' took out mall shooter in 15 seconds, landed 8 of 10 shots

    Dicken struck the gunman eight times, resulting in his death
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-police-say-good-samaritan-took-out-mall-shooter-15-seconds-landed-8-of-10-shots

    A good guy with a gun...

  60. [60] 
    Michale wrote:

    There is only one reality and one truth and one set of facts that are neither yours nor mine.

    There are as many "truths" as their are ideologues...

    The fact that you don't acknowledge this proves it is you who is not accepting of reality or the facts..

    The fact that you ignore comment #32 ALSO proves that..

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    A PERFECT example of the depravity of YOUR Democrats.. :eyeroll:

    Protesters reportedly target Kavanaugh neighbors and their children

    Washington Post: Kavanaugh neighbors say protesters are targeting residents, calling them Karens and fascists

    One pro-choice neighbor of Kavanaugh says protesters' actions are 'disturbing'

    Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s neighbors are fed up with the actions of protesters near their homes as some engaging in pro-choice activism have chosen to personally target residents, rather than heed noise complaints.

    In June, Fox News Digital spoke with neighbors who painted a picture of protesters who are loud and intimidating, threatening escalation if they don’t get what they want. Furthermore, neighbors claimed that protesters had abused them and their children, using drums and megaphones to chant "fuck you," and "fuck your children."

    A Wednesday piece from The Washington Post shows that little has changed in two months. The paper spoke with eight different sources from the neighborhood. Seven of them voiced frustrations about the protests, citing "jarring language" and rising tensions.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-kavanaugh-neighbors-protesters-targeting-residents-calling-karens-fascists

    How PROUD ya'all must be of your Democrat Party..

    :eyeroll:

    And the condemnation of these depraved and perverse Democrat actions from Weigantians???

    {{ccchhhiiirrrrppppp}}{{cccchhhhiiiiiirrrrrpppppppp}}

    Do you understand how ya'all have absolutely NO MORAL or ETHICAL or even LEGAL leg to stand on here??

    THAT is the reality of the here and now...

  62. [62] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    16

    Ahhhh, yes! What's better than getting a smile from Weigantia right before beddie time?

    I have multiple correct answers, of which I will share but two:

    (1) That unquestionably depends a great deal on who is doing the smiling.

    (2) Weed.

    Amiright? <---- rhetorical question

  63. [63] 
    Michale wrote:

    Residents, in some cases, have attempted to confront protesters over their methods but were quickly excoriated.

    "They just call us fascists," Lyric Winik, a resident of the neighborhood, told The Post. "Nothing about this is healthy. We’ve got kids on this street scared to leave their homes."

    These Democrats are no better than frakin' terrorists!!

    THIS is the Democrat Party in all it's glory.. :eyeroll:

  64. [64] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Oh sure.. Democrats pay lip service to supporting the cops... But when it actually comes to DOING something, like reigning in their cop-hating moron fellow Democrats??

    "Reigning" is defined as "to rule over". The word you are probably wanting is "reining" -- which is defined as "keep under control; restrain". There have been many attempts to educate you on the difference, yet you seem to prefer to appear uneducated.

    As for "lip service", it was you that recently claimed that you believed anyone that assaults a police officer deserves the death penalty. Yet, you oppose the January 6th Committee's investigation into the over 150 officers being assaulted during traitor Trump's failed insurrection attempt. A failed insurrection attempt that resulted in 4 officers committing suicide. How can you oppose the investigation if you support police? You cannot.

    What's that, Liz?? Russ??

    You are saying that Democrats' DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies are having NO EFFECT on LEOs and their safety and well-being???

    I never said anything like that. You once again have to make shit up to even have an argument. It's pathetic and desperate, but you just keep doing it!

    I've yet to hear of any policy that is intended to "demoralize" or "demonize" the police. I do not and would not support any policy that was created to do that. Nor do I support any politician that intentionally does that.

    Despite your wishes, I do not have to be vocal in my opposition to this every time you bring it up.

    DEMORALIZE AND DEMONIZE THE POLICE -- Threatening to file a false complaint against an officer because the officer's spouse exposed you lying about being in law enforcement. YOU did this! You threatened to lie about a police officer violating policy because you got humiliated.

    What I would find to be even more hilarious if it didn't disgust me so much is this:

    A person who steals valor has nothing to say to anyone about supporting law enforcement! NOTHING!

    When you used to post the announcements of officers killed in the line of duty, I thought that was extremely cool of you.

    Now, I just see it as you naming another officer who's valor you are more than happy to steal!

  65. [65] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale

    As much as you eyeroll, I can only imagine that you get mistaken for actor Marty Feldman all the time.

  66. [66] 
    Michale wrote:

    Russ,

    I never said anything like that. You once again have to make shit up to even have an argument.

    Actually, you did Russ...

    You even denied that DEMORALIZE AND DEMONIZE THE POLICE even existed..

    So, please... Take yer lame ignorant bullshit and try to pawn it off someone else..

    You have no credibility here..

  67. [67] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    21

    And once again, Victoria returns desperate to start ANOTHER Weigantian flame war..

    Anyone interested in starting a flame war on this forum would most likely mimic your posting style and keep spinning the same two arguments as if it was something new every day.

    When you are you going to learn, Victoria??

    You've shown everyone in Weigantia everything you've got in prattling repetitive fashion, and I've concluded quite appropriately and unequivocally accurately that neither I nor anyone else is ever going to learn a damn thing from you that doesn't involve false equivalency and whataboutism hypocrisy because that just about sums up your entire devoluntionary routine.

    *I* am in complete control here... You don't have any say in the matter.. :D

    The sad fact is that there is a vast chasm between the amount of control you believe you have and the amount you actually do, for many reasons of which I will enumerate but two:

    (1) Your actual ideas can be counted on one hand, and I assume that's because your other hand is a subservient oleaginous Cheeto holster.

    (2) You perpetually confuse quantity with quality.

    .
    So, to recap: Keep rolling your eyes looking for your brain, maybe you'll locate some new ideas back there because the prattling repetition proves for a fact that you've got nothing else to offer to anyone.

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    Blaa blaaa blaaa....

    Keep showing how desperate you are, Vick... :D

    It amuses me to see how desperate and pathetic you have become.. :D

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    David Hogg disrupts House hearing on banning assault weapons

    David Hogg removed from congressional hearing after angry outburst over guns
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/david-hogg-disrupts-house-hearing-banning-assault-weapons

    Another perfect example of a Democrat moron...

    :eyeroll:

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    NEW LOW: Biden approval rating hits all-time low, majority of Dems don't want him to run in 2024, poll shows

    President Biden's approval rating hit an all-time low of 31%
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-low-biden-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-majority-dems-dont-want-run-2024-poll-shows

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    How does it feel to know that Biden's Handlers is even making President Trump look good!!!??? :D

    Democrats really scroo'ed da pooch with voting BIDEN into office!!! :D

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    GREEN 'EMERGENCY'

    Biden announces executive actions on 'climate crisis' after Manchin reportedly draws line over inflation

    Biden announces executive actions on 'climate crisis,' focuses on extreme heat and boosting offshore wind

    President Biden described climate change as an 'emergency'
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-announces-executive-actionsclimate-crisis-focusesextreme-heatboosting-offshore-wind

    "ARRRGGGHHHHHHH THE SKY IS FALLING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!"
    -Chicken Little Democrats

    :eyeroll:

    What *IS* it about Democrats that they are so utterly clueless and moronic???

    It's universally agreed by EVERYONE, including Weigantians, that humans cannot control the planet's climate..

    Even the vaunted UN IPCC acknowledges that long range climate predictions are completely and utterly impossible...

    Democrats... Utterly useless and clueless... :^/

  72. [72] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    64

    "Reigning" is defined as "to rule over". The word you are probably wanting is "reining" -- which is defined as "keep under control; restrain". There have been many attempts to educate you on the difference, yet you seem to prefer to appear uneducated.

    It's not an act, Russ. I can confirm that Michale -- Weigantia's own Don Harris 2.0 -- is as uneducated as he seems.

    How can you oppose the investigation if you support police? You cannot.

    I agree with Russ. How can you claim to support police officers when you're a human holster for the traitorous Benedict Donald who turned coat on America and conspired in premeditated fashion to assemble a mob of gullible rubes and then watched on gleefully doing nothing while they attacked law enforcement officers and he egged them on via tweet to attack the Vice President of the United States? <--- rhetorical question

    I never said anything like that. You once again have to make shit up to even have an argument. It's pathetic and desperate, but you just keep doing it!

    You can definitely count his arguments on one hand, but in his defense, his other hand is busy holstering the tiny carrot of the giant man-baby (props to you for that one, Russ).

    I've yet to hear of any policy that is intended to "demoralize" or "demonize" the police. I do not and would not support any policy that was created to do that. Nor do I support any politician that intentionally does that.

    I agree with Russ for reasons that are obvious unless one is really bad at reading between the lines or one just genuinely fails to understand the actual lines they're reading.

    Despite your wishes, I do not have to be vocal in my opposition to this every time you bring it up.

    Quantity definitely does not equal quality and the stale routine is a waste of time. Not caring if he wastes his time is definitely not the equivalent of having to always respond to the monotonous regurgitation, drivel, and spew.

    DEMORALIZE AND DEMONIZE THE POLICE -- Threatening to file a false complaint against an officer because the officer's spouse exposed you lying about being in law enforcement. YOU did this! You threatened to lie about a police officer violating policy because you got humiliated.

    He will likely deny it, but then who here wouldn't put it past Michale to lie? <--- rhetorical question

    I might have to file a complaint with the PD that Russ's husband works for.. Shouldn't be too difficult to ascertain which Department he works for.. Russ has left plenty of clues..

    Yep.. I think a complaint is definitely warranted...

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/06/18/trumps-very-bad-week/#comment-161280

    *
    The fake cop's actual (lack of) respect for real law enforcement is well documented.

    Say hello to Devon for me. Love you, Russ. :)

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:


    END OF WATCH

    Sergeant Christopher Nelson
    Edmond Police Department, Oklahoma
    End of Watch: Tuesday, July 19, 2022

    And remind the few...
    When ill of us they speak..
    That we are all that stands between..
    The monsters and the weak...

  74. [74] 
    Michale wrote:

    More desperation from Victoria... :D

    Wassamatter Vick...

    You can't handle that I am in complete and total control here... :D

    BBBWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  75. [75] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    68

    Blaa blaaa blaaa....

    Did you have something you wished to say and yet this repetitive devolutionary prattling retort constitutes your attempt at a response? Rhetorical question, but I do thank you for the assist in proving the dead on accurate exact point I made.

    Keep showing how desperate you are, Vick... :D

    Your projection is unmistakable, yet someone calling you out on your obvious modus operandi and prattling stale monotony is neither desperate nor new to this forum, you know:

    [130] Chris Weigant wrote:

    Michale -

    Dude, it's time for an intervention.

    I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you have become downright boring.

    Seriously, man, we all get it. You don't like BLM, and you think Trump's going to win. How many hundreds of comments are you going to post that say exactly the same thing? Here is what the rest of us read over and over and over again:

    Hey, I just read an article from someone who agrees with me, so I'm going to post a whole bunch of it.

    [long excerpt that says exactly the same thing as all the other dozens and dozens of posts I've made today]

    See? BLM sucks! Democrats suck! Trump is going to win! He can't lose! FACT FACT FACT FACT FACT!!!

    I mean, we get it. We really do. That's what you think, and no evidence or contrary thinking is going to budge you from thinking it.

    But it's really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really boring to read it, over and over and over again.

    You used to be a lot more interesting, dude, and that's what even people who disagree with you miss. So please, can you just post the above comment ONCE OR TWICE per article, and let it go at that?

    Seriously, we don't need to read it forty or fifty times every day in order to get your message. In fact, the more you post exactly the same thing, the more the rest of us think: "Wow -- he's really insecure about this, he must have some serious doubts that Trump's going to win." In other words, the exact opposite of the impression you're trying to give.

    Please, for the love of all that's holy, comment about the article I've written. Comment about someone else's comment. Comment about science fiction or music. But put a cork in the repetitious same-old same-old so the rest of us can have a conversation.

    We get it. You don't like Democrats and you think Trump's going to win. You think it is inevitable, which is exactly how you felt in pretty much every election that comes along. Sometimes you are right (2016) and sometimes you are wrong (2012, 2018). But just being a broken record really isn't adding much of anything to the conversation.

    Is any of this getting through? One can only hope...

    (sigh)

    -CW

    http://www.chrisweigant.com/2020/07/29/rampant-gop-incompetence-on-full-display/#comment-166413

    *

    It amuses me to see how desperate and pathetic you have become.. :D

    Meanwhile, it is highly likely that your limited pathetic monotonous desperately repetitive routine amuses you and you alone... a fact that definitely bears repeating from time to time in hopes it'll finally get through.

  76. [76] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [75]

    I enjoy takedowns like these for their power, brevity and (especially) snark. Of course, you must know he's shameless and it makes no difference how bad he looks so long as he gets attention.

    It's too bad, for we need a right-wing voice and this isn't a real one, alas.

    We need one who argues in good faith rather than the endless dismiss, distract, deflect, dupe and deny so-called responses.

    IMO @m disrespects everyone by polluting Weigantia, his nastiness and even going so far as to stiff CW out of $100 (because his Cheeto Jesus lost, I suppose.) I'm no longer interested in this poor Devil, and I've returned to scrolling through, because not paying attention is the best revenge.

    Y'all can repeatedly take his bait if you want but I really wish you wouldn't. I don't necessarily expect he'll go away, but ignoring him frees up the rest of us to do our Weigantia thing. Try it, you'll like it! I think we can get some new blood in here if we don't muck around with this guy.

    For the love of God, Elizabeth Miller – why are you wasting so much effort trying to "reach" him? How many years have you been banging your head on this brick wall? You've had the same (lack of) success as Don Harris had flogging One Demand. Ain't no Hope and Change with this one.
    *smh*

  77. [77] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Why do you keep asking the same questions, over and over again?

  78. [78] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I'm no longer interested in this poor Devil, and I've returned to scrolling through, because not paying attention is the best revenge.

    Heh.

  79. [79] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    I mean, you seem pretty interested, despite your assertions to the contrary.

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