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Updating The Electoral Count Act

[ Posted Wednesday, July 20th, 2022 – 15:48 UTC ]

A bipartisan group of senators has unveiled two bills today which would improve and protect the process of presidential elections. One of these bills would update the 1887 Electoral Count Act (a law which was very vaguely written and legally confusing in parts), while the other bill addresses more peripheral subjects such as doubling the penalties for violence against poll workers. Both bills have the support of nine Republicans, so both have a very good chance of eventually being enacted.

The 1887 Electoral Count Act was the last time Congress came in to clean up the mess from a highly contested presidential election, but the law had some major loopholes and was nowhere near specific enough to address all the possible problems with the process. The rewrite will go a long way towards fixing the flaws that were highlighted in the January 6th insurrection attempt, but it may not address all the problems we may face in 2024 and beyond. January 6th is being seen more and more as merely a trial run for what some Republicans (who have sworn more fealty to Donald Trump than to the U.S. Constitution) are planning next. The House Select Committee hearings have exposed how weak the current system is, and how many places it can be attacked for partisan gain. The two bills announced today are at least a big step in the right direction towards fixing this situation.

The biggest and most obvious fix contained within the new bills is explicitly stating that the vice presidential role in the process of certifying each state's electors in Congress is purely ceremonial and symbolic. The vice president cannot do what Donald Trump was begging Mike Pence to do, to put it another way. He or she just does not have that power, period.

The new law would also raise the threshold for an objection to any particular state's electors from one House member and one senator to a full one-fifth of both chambers. In other words, it would take 87 House members and 10 senators to challenge any state's certification. There were indeed that many Republicans in the House who objected to the 2020 results, but the number of senators who did so were in the single digits, so the attempt would have failed under the proposed new law.

The new law would also limit the power of the states, laying out specifically that each state can only submit one set of presidential electors, and only the governor of the state is allowed to submit them to Congress. "Fake electors" would be just that: fake. This would also assumably preclude any partisan nonsense from the state legislatures, such as them trying to just toss out the results of the vote and appointing electors for the candidate they wanted to see win. This is important, because there are dozens of Republicans running for office in states across the country who are explicitly promising to do whatever it takes to declare the Republican the winner -- even when they lose the vote.

Reportedly one of the most contentious parts of the bipartisan bills was creating a special fast track for election cases, to be used when someone sues to challenge a state's slate of electors. These cases would go before a special three-judge panel of federal judges, and then quickly move on to the Supreme Court. This is important because we've all seen how the time between Election Day and January 6th can lead to all sorts of frivolous lawsuits. Such lawsuits would be disposed of a lot quicker, under the new plan (that's the goal, at any rate).

The more peripheral parts of the bills would clarify the presidential transition, putting hard requirements in place for when the winning candidate would get federal funds for the transition effort. Most have now forgotten about Emily Murphy, the woman in charge of the Government Services Administration, who refused to certify Joe Biden for two weeks, delaying the start of his official transition to power. The new law would dictate when such funding has to be released, rather than leaving it to the whim of some presidential appointee.

Penalties for violence against poll workers would double, from "up to one year in jail" to "up to two years in jail." This is important, since threats of violence are now commonplace for these previously-invisible civil servants. Also, the bill has some suggestions for how the United States Postal Service handles and processes election mail (all those mail-in ballots), in an effort to both protect and speed up the process. Finally, the bills would reauthorize the Election Assistance Commission, "a centralized clearinghouse for election information and best practices that was created in the aftermath of the 200 election," for another five years.

Democrats pushed for including some voting rights topics in the bills, but Republicans balked (unsurprisingly, since they are the ones passing all the voter-suppression laws in the first place). And the bill doesn't address every dirty trick that could happen at the state level, between the election and the certification of the Electoral College on January 6th. There still may be loopholes left, and you can bet your bottom dollar unscrupulous lawyers who are loyal to Trump (or just Trumpism in general) will be searching for new and inventive ways to subvert democracy. The bills announced today aren't perfect, in other words, but then few things in life are. They do fix some rather large problems with the Electoral Count Act and they would prevent several things that were attempted in 2020 from ever happening again. The bills could have been better, but they are still a valuable step towards protecting the process of voting for and electing an American president.

The group of senators who hammered the bills out contained seven Democrats and nine Republicans. On the Democratic side were: Ben Cardin, Chris Coons, Joe Manchin, Chris Murphy, Jeanne Shaheen, Kyrsten Sinema, and Mark Warner. For the Republicans, it was: Shelley Moore Capito, Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, Rob Portman, Ben Sasse, Thom Tillis, and Todd Young. Collins and Manchin were the principle negotiators.

Nine GOP senators is not the necessary ten, of course. But because the Republicans insisted on removing any voting rights language, the resulting bill should be acceptable enough to other Republicans. That's the hope, at any rate. People are looking to Mitch McConnell to see whether he'll throw his support behind it, which could signal its success. At this point, the chances look pretty good.

This effort should be seen as absolutely necessary to prevent catastrophe in the future. The process of voting for and certifying a new president and vice president is the most central part of American democracy, after all. The mob of insurrectionists were not just attacking the U.S. Capitol on January 6th, they were also attacking the foundation of America. Preventing methods of doing so is of paramount importance. The House Select Committee will be holding what could be its final public hearing tomorrow night, and this is why they've been working so diligently to lay out exactly what did happen in 2020 to the American public -- so that everyone can see the flaws and uncertainties in the current system. Congress needs to fix these flaws, plug up the loopholes, and specifically lay out how the process is supposed to work -- and how it cannot be subverted. These bills should really receive unanimous support in both the Senate and the House, in fact, because who can realistically argue for "let's just leave all the loopholes there, it's no big deal" after what happened last time? But even if the bills don't get every Republican's vote, it looks at this point like it'll at least get enough to put on President Joe Biden's desk for his signature.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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87 Comments on “Updating The Electoral Count Act”

  1. [1] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    ***
    Department of
    Memory Lane
    ***

    Here's John Oliver's prescient take on Trump circa February, 2016. (21:53 and hilarious!)

    ... and when Trump is inaugurated on January 21, 2017 you will remember that date…because it's the one that time travelers from the future will come back to to try and stop the whole thing from happening!

    Now, on to this evening's column!

  2. [2] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW:

    The new law would also raise the threshold for an objection to any particular state's electors from one House member and one senator to a full one-fifth of both chambers.

    Sounds to me like a de facto admission by GOP lawmakers that Trump violated multiple laws by conspiring in premeditated fashion to impede the constitutionally mandated duties of the president of the Senate and the Congress of the United States.

    In other words, it would take 87 House members and 10 senators to challenge any state's certification.

    Why would it not take 20 Senators to challenge the certification of any of the states? Is this a de facto math test or perchance a quiz to ascertain who it is that actually pays attention to details because details matter?

    The second bill that was introduced with bipartisan support that proposes to double the maximum federal penalty to two years in prison for people who are convicted of intimidating or threatening election officials, poll watchers, voters or candidates seems to me like a de facto admission that Donald Trump, Mark Meadows, et alia violated federal statutes when they conspired to intimidate election officials in Georgia to change the election result and "find 11,780 votes":

    And you are going to find that they are -- which is totally illegal, it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense. And you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan [Germany], your lawyer. That's a big risk.

    ~ Donald Trump, January 2, 2021

    Full audio at link:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

    *

    All 16 of Georgia's fake electors (Trump's chumps) who signed the fake certification and submitted it to the National Archives have now been notified they are targets of the far-reaching investigation, and the investigation into Trump's plot to overturn the election in multiple states continues. :)

  3. [3] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Re Tonight's column,

    It's actually fairly comprehensive even considering the loopholes. Having DINO Joe Manchin and nine Repugs is a good sign and no matter what Dems must hold votes in both Houses of Congress.

    Along with many of the most popular elements of BBB starting with the Insulin cap. Put everyone, Establishment DINOs, Progressives and Repugs alike on record for the voters edification in November.

  4. [4] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Along with many of the most popular elements of BBB starting with the Insulin cap. Put everyone, Establishment DINOs, Progressives and Repugs alike on record for the voters edification in November.

    I used to think that would be an effective tactic, too.

    But, do you think enough voters really care and/or aren't living in their own version of reality and/or have given up on politics in general?

  5. [5] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Oh, and I believe Trump will declare before the midterms.

    FPC

    Elizabeth Miller wrote:


    Why do you keep asking the same questions, over and over again?

    Trick question?

    Because I see you cluelessly feed the troll without any effect whatsoever, that's why. Don't play his game.

  6. [6] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Yes, I am certain that voters care. Most of them (95-99%, I recon) do not start paying attention to politics until after Labor Day. That's one reason I'm already sure we'll have more Hearings after Thursday's. J6C will find more Repug-killing stuff (I think they already have something(s) in reserve) and they'll make sure to keep the public's collective attention on all this as we approach November.

  7. [7] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You're too funny, Caddy!

    How can you ignore him if you keep talking about him?

    Not a trick question. ;)

  8. [8] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    [6],

    I dunno. What do you base that centuries-old analysis on. I mean, it never seems to pan out ...

  9. [9] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Just imagine if DoJ dropped a grip of Indictments on not only the Trump people but also numerous Repug candidates running for reelection.

    If it happened right before election day I'd almost think that J6C and DoJ were, what's the word...colluding.

    (thinking)

    I know, I know. I'm hard pressed to think of any possible motivation in Merrick Garland's mind for doing such a nasty!

  10. [10] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Doin' The Nasty - Slik Toxik, featuring lead vocals of the incomparable Nick Walsh!

  11. [11] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [7]

    I was actually responding to Kick. And how do you make the case that your troll buddy isn't vastly more obsessed about us than anyone is of him?

    If I never have to read another word of his because y'all took my suggestion and stopped quoting him, you'd never hear me mention him again.

    You didn't answer the question:

    Why are you feeding the troll? What does it do for you, trying to break a brick wall with your forehead?

  12. [12] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    And how do you make the case that your troll buddy isn't vastly more obsessed about us than anyone is of him?

    Oh, I don't make that case!

    If I never have to read another word of his because y'all took my suggestion and stopped quoting him, you'd never hear me mention him again.

    Now, THAT sounds precisely like something Michale would say and often does...

  13. [13] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    You should have a listen to the full Doin' the Nasty album, Caddy, before bedtime. You can thank me tomorrow morning!

  14. [14] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [10]

    What?

    I believe the phrase goes It's always 5:00 somewhere, not always Sunday somewhere.

    So I went on the Interwebs and found that it is, in fact, Sharkey's Day.

  15. [15] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Pretty good start on that album, Liz.

    And your right, the vocalist is great. Would he happen to be Canadian? ;)

  16. [16] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    4

    I used to think that would be an effective tactic, too.

    It's definitely an effective tactic, and if you don't believe me, kindly explain why you think it is that a "messaging vote" such as the "Respect for Marriage Act" easily passed in the House with the support of 47 Republicans, and I mean that in a nice way, of course, and not being facetious. *grin*

    A bill that would usually be "dead on arrival" to the Senate because of the GOP voting in lockstep against whatever Democrats propose has now been given a breath of life because quite an impressive chunk of the Representatives of "We the People" have decided that they need to do some back-pedaling in their race to deny rights to their constituents.

    Obviously, there is no guarantee that McConnell won't hereafter put on the breaks and attempt to block the legislation in the Senate, but the bill isn't exactly dead on arrival as per usual.

    But, do you think enough voters really care and/or aren't living in their own version of reality and/or have given up on politics in general?

    Their Representatives in the gerrymandered House seem to believe they do, and they have their states' extremist right-wing race to (bottomless) rock bottom to deny women their right to life and liberty to thank for it, and that's certainly not nothing. :)

  17. [17] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Yes! Yes he is!

    He has had a storied career and is now doing a lot of things including his new band Famous Underground and he has just been named the General Manager of Classic Albums Live, an outfit that performs entire albums, cut for cut, note for note and he is my favourite CAL vocalist.

    Helluvatime ... and, he looks pretty much the same today. Oh, baby...that hair!!! Love, love, love it!!!!

  18. [18] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    I'll thank you tomorrow morning by showing you that the Russo-Ukraine War was in no way, shape or form Joe Biden/the West's fault.

    Now, I know I promised to do so once or twice before but that was scores of hours of research ago, and I'm confident I can edify you -- without a mountain of words, as I've been working on it. Kick is better at brevity than I.

    You're a genuine JB groupie and I don't want you to think that he didn't do everything possible to prevent this war.

  19. [19] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Caddy,

    Sadly, I have discarded the idea of our little Sunday Night shindigs ... I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assert that they won't be missed.

  20. [20] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [17]

    Down, Gurl!

  21. [21] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Okay, Caddy ... I'm more than open to persuasion. But, now, I'm going to bed. G'nite.

  22. [22] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    We shall see, Kick!

  23. [23] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [19]

    There were Sunday nights I really enjoyed Dance Party, especially during Locksley. I think all the bad blood down here in Weigantia hath kinda spoiled the mood. Not coincidentally I think it wards away new voices and costs CW both financially and by retarding the spread of his influence.

  24. [24] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    I don't see any reason not to throw up a song whenever you feel like it. So long as it doesn't approach anything like, say, comment spam, why not?

  25. [25] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    G'Nite, 'Lizbeth!

    G'Nite, Kick!

    See y'all on the other side of the morning spew.

  26. [26] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    The whole idea behind Sunday Nights was to change the mood here and make this place more welcoming to newcomers. We really do need more new blood here but, I can't see that happening ... :(

  27. [27] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    7

    How can you ignore him if you keep talking about him?

    You're making MC's point for him.

    Believe me when I tell you that you can definitely ignore something while talking up a shitstorm about it. If you don't believe me, how do you explain Steve Bannon's ignoring a congressional subpoena in violation of multiple federal laws while not bothering to zip his lips about his quite obvious intent to do so?

    Not a trick question. ;)

    Mine neither. :)

  28. [28] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Thanks, Kick.

    Here's your reward:

    Beau shoots down the silly notion of Let's have a Civil War 2.0! (12:05)

    AS YOU do, Beau gets right to the point and all I'd add is that not only would our military have the people's support but that shortly after they annihilate the first couple of groups of rebels, these knuckleheads will conclude that maybe "the Intel on this wasn't 100%" and that would be the end of it.

    It makes me wonder if suppressing Insurrection is why our military has been sending millions/billions of dollars worth of warfare-grade equipment to Police Departments nationwide for years now.

  29. [29] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    I mean, hasn't ISIS in America been crushed by now?
    ;D

  30. [30] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Or do Police need the equipment to take on the real threat to Murica...

    BLM

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    MC,

    I'm no longer interested in this poor Devil, and I've returned to scrolling through, because not paying attention is the best revenge.

    And yet, you mention me in EVERY comment..

    So, obviously, you ARE paying attention.. :D

    BBBBBBWWHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    Victoria,

    [130] Chris Weigant wrote:

    "HELP ME MODERATOR!!! HELP ME!!!! MICHALE IS BEING MEAN TO ME AND I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!"
    -Victoria

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Face it, Vick.. You are simply desperate.. :D

    It's hilarious...

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    You're too funny, Caddy!

    How can you ignore him if you keep talking about him?

    Not a trick question. ;)

    Exactly!! :D

    You remember Kevin, right??

    Kevin was the same way.. He would go on and on everyday on how much he is ignoring me... Every day, comment after comment, Kevin would devote many comments telling everyone how much he is "ignoring" me.. :D

    Maybe MC is Kevin's sock.... :D

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    So...

    Biden's Handlers has cancer...

    "My mother drove us rather than us being able to walk and guess what? The first frost, you know what was happening? You had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window. That’s why I and so damn many other people I grew up with have cancer and why for the longest time, Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation."
    -Biden's Handlers

    I would have thought this would rate a mention in today's commentary...


    HOW BIZARRE

    When a sitting President says, "I have cancer" it would seem to be somewhat newsworthy..

    Weigantia sure has changed... A LOT...

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    And in other news.. The good guys are winning!! :D

    Appeals court allows Georgia heartbeat abortion law to take effect
    https://news.yahoo.com/appeals-court-says-georgia-abortion-183637820.html

    Babies in Georgia can breathe a sigh of relief that they won't be butchered by a bunch of Casey Anthony wannabes..

    Good news..

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is important because we've all seen how the time between Election Day and January 6th can lead to all sorts of frivolous lawsuits.

    Yes.. Like Democrats did in 2000 and 2004 and 2016...

    :eyeroll:

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    The mob of insurrectionists were not just attacking the U.S. Capitol on January 6th, they were also attacking the foundation of America

    As were Democrats on 20 Jan 2017...

    But of course, ya'all ignore that... :eyeroll:

    The OLD Weigantia would have been fair and mentioned BOTH Capitol riots....

    I miss the late CW... The pre PTDS CW :(

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    Funny how ya'all claim you condemn political violence, yet ya'all are completely silent on this..

    Brett Kavanaugh’s neighbors: For abortion rights but tired of protests

    On paper at least, Emily Strulson might seem a welcoming host to the weekly protests outside Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh’s home.

    The 46-year-old artist, who lives a half-block away, first marched for abortion rights as a middle-schooler with her mom on the National Mall. The court’s recent moves to overturn Roe v. Wade prompted her to chalk out a message on her driveway: “Reproduction Rights are Human Rights.” And she has had more than 200 yard signs printed and distributed that echo the widely held sentiments of her left-leaning jurisdiction just north of Washington: “Chevy Chasers for Choice.”

    But two months after the demonstrators arrived — often loud and vulgar — Strulson has come to see their methods as so disturbing that come Wednesday evenings, she and her family head out to a restaurant for a long dinner.

    “I understand where their passion comes from,” she said, “but I’ve had enough.”

    The mood seems to be shared up and down their narrow street of towering trees, tightly spaced homes and families with young children.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/brett-kavanaugh-e2-80-99s-neighbors-for-abortion-rights-but-sick-of-protests/ar-AAZLtl9

    So, when ya'all claimed that ya'all condemn all political violence, what you REALLY meant is that ya'all condemn political violence only from the Right..

    As long as it's DEMOCRAT political violence against the RIGHT people, then ya'all are perfectly OK with that..

    :eyeroll:

    Hypocrisy is not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    Law enforcement officers from Montgomery County and the U.S. Marshals Service have been a constant presence during the protests. In recent weeks, Montgomery officials say they have received more complaints about noise from residents as police appear to be stepping up enforcement — complete with enlisting decibel-detection meters to document sound levels. Last Wednesday, officers indicated protesters were edging closer to being arrested.

    It's ironic that police have let it gone this far.. These scumbag terrorists are breaking federal law..

    But Democrats only enforce the laws that further their agenda.. :eyeroll:

    Hypocrisy isn't a bug in Dem code. It's a feature

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    “Protesters have become more belligerent and are using lots of foul language in their chants. They have also left signs with offensive language on the street. I am expressly concerned for the safety of children on our street, including my own. Kids have stopped playing outside due to fear and the consistent presence of protesters.”
    -Kavanaugh Neighbor

    Honestly.. How SAD is it that these terroristic scumbags are threatening INNOCENT children!!??

    The ONLY thing sadder than that is that ya'all AGREE with and CONDONE such disgusting and perverse actions.

    "Silence Gives Assent"
    -Democrat Party

    I get it.. I really do..

    Ya'all are ashamed of your Democrat Party and with good reason....

    :eyeroll:

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    And Florida is still setting the pace.. :D

    Another Round to Florida: Citadel Flees Illinois for the Sunshine State

    In late June, Illinois governor J. B. Pritzker traveled to New Hampshire to be the keynote speaker at New Hampshire’s Democratic Party state convention.

    Officially, he was there to “help other Democratic governors get elected” and to lobby for Chicago as the site of the party’s 2024 presidential convention. Unofficially, there was buzz that Pritzker could be a Democratic presidential nominee himself – in 2028, or possibly sooner.

    That same weekend, 47 people were shot in Chicago.

    The Windy City’s weekend shootouts are so prevalent that they’ve become hardly worth mentioning, in particular by the governor. Chicago and Illinois have become synonymous with all the bad leftist policies that are failing in cities and states around the country. Chicago leads the nation in “mass” shooting events, yet the governor of Illinois is often found traipsing out of state.

    After the mass shooting at the Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Governor Pritzker finally had something to say. He took to TV to say that he was “furious,” blamed the National Rifle Association, and pushed for a federal assault weapons ban. He has yet to achieve a similar ban in Illinois, though Democrats control the state government from top to bottom.

    He also hasn’t shown the same fury regarding the deaths happening every weekend in Chicago – and Chicagoans have noticed. Radio host Kimberly Egonmwan of 1690 AM, a radio station that “chronicles the rich history of the Black experience,” asked, “Why is it not enough when it happens to us?” As Pritzker stumped in New Hampshire and praised the state for cultivating the first potatoes during Colonial times, three kids under 18 were shot in Chicago in a span of five hours.

    A few days after the governor’s New Hampshire speech, Ken Griffin, Chicago’s wealthiest resident, announced that he and his Citadel firm would be departing Illinois. Griffin would be taking his talents to Miami.
    https://www.realclearflorida.com/articles/2022/07/19/another_round_to_florida_citadel_flees_illinois_for_the_sunshine_state_843239.html

    Another BIG BUSINESS leaves a Democrat shithole state for the friendly lands of Florida... :D

    Ya'all sensing the pattern??

    Democrat governance = shithole

    It's a very simple calculation...

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that sums things up perfectly vis a vis Democrat governance and incompetence..

    AMERICA The world's newest 3rd world shithole

    That says it all about Democrats and their governance..

    :eyeroll:

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    We've all heard this story before. Over the past two years, companies from San Francisco and New York have been consistently and increasingly been moving south. Blue states believed they were holding companies hostage and that they were unable to simply pick up and leave.

    The pandemic disproved what they said. Red states have triumphed in the post-pandemic economy, according to a recent Wall Street Journal story.

    According to researchers, remote employment made it possible for many workers to relocate to red states for financial and lifestyle reasons instead of political ones, such as cheaper housing, superior weather, less traffic, and lower taxes.

    These political opinions are significant. Although we lack the statistics to definitively say if politics is a factor in why people do these actions, it is difficult to avoid the inference that it does.

    During Covid, normalcy was undoubtedly appealing. Under the direction of Governor Ron DeSantis, Florida had notably reopened much earlier than any of the blue states.

    Life there largely returned to normal, and businesses followed their workers as they looked for this freedom.

    An important political shift in the state has resulted from this exodus. Florida, which was once a purple state, has firmly entered the red column.

    For the first time in the state's history, there are currently over 100,000 more Republican registered voters than Democratic ones, according to a March Fox News article.

    The facts are clear...

    Democrat State = 3rd World Shithole

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    Crime as a factor is also under-examined. It’s not that there is no crime in Florida in general, or in Miami specifically. Of course there is. But there is a seriousness to Florida’s response that simply doesn’t exist in Illinois, New York, or California. While Pritzker talks about fantasy proposals, which likely wouldn’t stop the Chicago bloodshed anyway, Governor DeSantis is focusing on crime-fighting, hiring away out-of-state officers, and raising police pay across the board. His office touts how “Governor DeSantis signed HB 3, the strongest law enforcement recruitment and support initiative in the nation, into law.”

    This week, DeSantis said “We’re going to do even more for law enforcement – making sure that we remain a law-and-order state – and [making sure] that people know that we’re going to put people behind bars who violate the law, not like these other states where they release all the criminals on the streets. You see how destructive that has been.” Americans do see.

    Democrats' DEFUND, DEMORALIZE, DEMONIZE THE POLICE policies are some of the biggest reasons why Democrats are going to be decimated in November..

    And there are actually moron Democrats who don't understand or even believe these facts...

    :eyeroll:

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    “There are countless companies are choosing Illinois as their home.”
    -Emily Bittner

    And yet, the FACTS prove beyond ANY doubt that more companies are leaving 3rd world shitholes like California and New York and Illinois for peace and prosperity in GOP states like Florida and Texas...

    The facts are clear...

    Democrat 3rd world shitholes has NOTHING to offer American companies beyond pain and death and taxes...

    "These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
    -Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    Accompanying Citadel out of the state is Caterpillar Inc. (moving to Texas) and Boeing Co. (to Virginia). The growth of these states, too, comes at the expense of the blue states. A blue-state brain drain is happening, and states like Florida are first in line to pick up the migrators.

    Pritzker has to know this. It’s no coincidence that he’s heading to the Leadership Blue Gala, an event held by Florida Democrats this weekend in Tampa. As long as Ron DeSantis remains governor of Florida, governors of failing blue states will have to worry about people fleeing for the sunny locale. Pritzker will go to Florida to try and stop that from happening. He’s also bought into the hype of himself as a possible replacement for an ailing President Joe Biden, and a visit to Florida could shore up his support in that regard.

    Pritzker also has a home in Florida, which his family used to escape pandemic regulations in Illinois. In November 2020, while the governor discouraged Illinois citizens from traveling for Thanksgiving, his own family made a break for Florida. Pritzker was supposed to follow them down, but media outrage over numerous hypocritical Democratic politicians defying their own policies forced him to stay home.

    Another Dumbocrat leader who speaks out his ass but then turns around and does what he tells people NOT to do..

    Hypocrisy isn't a bug in Democrat code. It's a feature

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Illinois, New York and California are the bluest states in America.

    They are also the top three states in terms of population losses as hundreds of thousands of Americans flee to more hospitable and more REAL AMERICA environments.

    If you want to make America a 3rd world shithole like Illinois and New York and California are...

    Be sure and vote for Dumbocrats in November..

    :eyeroll:

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    MOVING ON... :D

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    You asked yesterday why aren't the good cops given more recognition and exposure...

    Media downplays ‘good Samaritan’ narrative following Indiana shooting, firearms experts weigh in
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/media-downplays-good-samaritan-narrative-following-indiana-shooting-firearms-experts-weigh-in

    It's because your Democrat Cop Hating media doesn't report the GOOD news about cops and such...

    YOUR Democrat media only pushes what furthers the Democrat cop hating gun hating agenda..

    THAT is why we rarely see good cops doing good jobs..

    Because YOUR Democrat media refuses to report the GOOD news...

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    Taking a Break From the Circus
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/taking-a-break-from-the-circus_4603987.html?utm_source=epochHG&utm_campaign=rcp

    There is simply NO DOUBT that President Trump will return to the Oval Office in 2025...

    However...

    In the unlikely event that, due to health reasons, President Trump cannot run..

    The Ron DeSantis will step into the top spot..

    And Democrats don't have *ANYONE* that can go up against DeSantis and prevail..

    So... No matter how ya'all want to spin it..

    Democrats are decimated and destroyed in 2022 and 2024... :D

    Life is good.. :D

  51. [51] 
    Michale wrote:

    By the bi, JL..

    You never answered my question before..

    Like Democrats wanted to keep their slaves and started a civil war to accomplish that..

    Are Democrats willing to start ANOTHER civil war to keep their right to baby killing???

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    Will GOP Be a ‘Much More Militant Majority’?
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/07/20/will_gop_be_a_much_more_militant_majority_147923.html#2

    Hell yea!!!

    Democrats set the stage...

    Now Democrats are going to reap what they have sown....

    It's gonna be AWESOME!!! :D

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    Obama outfoxed both Boehner and Ryan with his rhetoric and mastery of politics. “Biden has none of those skills,” Gingrich said. “None.” He also sees the current president instead as too beholden to his progressive base on both cultural and policy fronts. “They can’t take their foot off the gas,” the former speaker said of the current White House, “and the new Congress is going to have to say, ‘We're going to cut off funding,’ and simply refuse the funding until they’re finished getting rid of Biden.”

    The conservative base certainly has an appetite for that kind of parliamentary scorched earth. So do today’s rank-and-file Republicans – and McCarthy’s GOP House colleagues. The upshot is that if McCarthy takes the gavel, he won’t immediately face the internecine partisan warfare that hamstrung his predecessors.

    Biden's Handlers and the Democrats are toast!! :D

    The GOP is going to steamroll right over Biden's Handlers and Democrats..

    It's gonna be a sight to behold.. :D

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    The Climate Agenda Is What’s Melting

    President Biden is being urged to declare a climate emergency, which may happen as early as this week. If he does, the irony will be rich, as the 911 call should really be for the climate agenda.

    The president apparently hopes to take advantage of the ongoing record-setting European heat wave and string of wildfires, and an ongoing heat wave in the U.S. Midwest.

    While it certainly is very hot in Europe and the Midwest, it is relatively cool elsewhere. The unfortunate reality for Biden’s planned exploitation is that today’s average global temperature per the University of Maine is a mere 0.2C warmer than the average from 1979-2000. It’s called “global warming,” and yet there’s really not much of that occurring.

    We also know that heat waves are not associated with carbon dioxide emissions. The frequency and intensity of heat waves has dramatically declined in the U.S. over the past 100 years despite ever-rising emissions, per the National Climate Assessment conducted by the Obama-Biden administration.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/07/20/the_climate_agenda_is_whats_melting__147922.html

    You people really need to get over yerselves..

    There is NO climate change apocalypse coming...

    And, even if there were, there is nothing humans can do about it..

    Like gun control, global warming isn't about saving lives or saving the planet..

    It's simply about the liberal order gaining control..

    How do we know this??

    Because the Democrats who are screaming the loudest about global warming are amongst the world's biggest polluters and MASSIVELY CONTRIBUTING to that alleged global warming..

    These are the facts that no one here can dispute...

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    And although the media is trying to fan the flames of climate hysteria with images of Europe burning, the reality is that wildfires in Europe have been declining since the 1980s despite ever- increasing CO2 emissions.

    And let’s not forget that despite lots of emissions over the years, June 2022 was cooler than June 2002 and there has been no global warming in seven years and 10 months.

    Inconvenient FACTS are so inconvenient to the Democrat Party Chicken Little hysteria, eh? :D

  56. [56] 
    Michale wrote:

    But it gets worse for Joe Biden and his climate agenda.

    Last week’s New York Times/Siena College poll reports that a mere one percent of voters prioritize climate. Climate scored zero percent among Latinos, Republicans, and the 45-64 age group. This shouldn’t have been a surprise to the Times since a Democrat pollster told the paper last year that climate was an issue that only “weird, very liberal white” people care about.

    All this is occurring against a backdrop where the Supreme Court has ruled that the EPA doesn’t have the authority to regulate greenhouse gases from coal plants; Sen. Joe Manchin has now twice pulled the plug on Biden’s Build Back better climate agenda; and the world is in the worst energy and inflation crises in 40 years.

    There are only 2 types of people who care about global warming..

    Ignorant morons..

    Or people with an Hate-America agenda..

  57. [57] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden must 'stop the fall in gasoline prices,’ set $5 gallon minimum to combat climate change: Bloomberg op-ed

    The author argued 'fossil fuels must become more expensive'
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-must-stop-fall-gasoline-prices-set-5-gallon-minimum-combat-climate-change-bloomberg-op-ed

    There's ya'all's Democrat Party...

    Fighting to make gas prices HIGHER...

    Fighting make Americans' lives HARDER...

    And yet ya'all STILL support Democrats.. :eyeroll:

  58. [58] 
    Michale wrote:

    Porter argued that a $5 gas floor would reduce carbon emissions from cars and trucks. Despite these aspirations, Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry continues to fly on private jets, emitting over 300 metric tons of carbon since Biden became president.

    Further, Porter called for a gas tax to further decrease demand. "While consistently high gas prices would encourage more drilling over the long term — not quite the desired outcome from a climate change perspective — imposing a tax to boost the retail price at the pump would eat into consumer demand without incentivizing further supply."

    "Higher energy prices will eat into consumers’ pocketbooks and slow the economy," Porter admitted. "What’s important for the president to understand is we have no choice. Fossil fuels must become more expensive."

    THIS is what ya'all's Democrat Party is trying to do..

    Destroy Americans and America...

  59. [59] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrat parenting at work..

    Video shows Utah child, 4, shoot at police outside McDonald's drive-thru

    Suspect Sadaat Johnson was arrested and charged with child abuse after his 4-year-old child fired a gun at officers in February
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-shows-utah-child-4-shoot-police-outside-mcdonalds-drive-thru

    4 year old shoots at police to protect scumbag father...

    THAT is how good parents Democrats are.. :eyeroll:

  60. [60] 
    Michale wrote:

    During that time, an officer noticed a gun pointing from a rear window of Johnson's vehicle, at which point he alerted other officers to the gun and pushed it "to the side as a round was fired," the press release states. He also alerted other officers that it was a "kid" who fired the weapon.

    A preliminary investigation indicated that the 27-year-old instructed his child to shoot at officers, police said.

    What a sad sad world Democrats have made here in the US, eh? :eyeroll:

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    Joe Biden says he ‘has’ cancer thanks to oil industry — but WH points to skin cancer years ago
    https://nypost.com/2022/07/20/joe-biden-says-he-has-cancer-in-possible-gaffe/

    Except Biden's Handlers didn't say he "HAD" cancer..

    Biden's Handlers said he "HAS" cancer...

    So, either Biden's Handlers has cancer...

    Or he is senile and doesn't realize the doesn't have cancer anymore..

    :eyeroll:

  62. [62] 
    Michale wrote:

    And even if Biden's Handlers was talking about his PAST skin cancer...

    Such cancers are attributed to unprotected UV exposure from the sun.. Those cancers are not caused by exposure to oil...

    So, not matter how ya'all want to spin it..

    Biden's Handlers is lying...

    Of course, it's been proven beyond ANY doubt that ya'all don't really care about lying..

    You only care about lying if it's a GOP'er doing it..

    :eyeroll:

    Hypocrisy isn't a bug in Democrat code. It's a feature

  63. [63] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden often misspeaks while attempting to demonstrate a personal connection to his audiences.

    In September, for example, he told Jewish leaders that he remembered “spending time at” and “going to” the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh after the mass murder of 11 people in 2018. The synagogue said he never visited and the White House later said he was thinking about a 2019 phone call to the synagogue’s rabbi.

    That same month, Biden told an Idaho audience that his “first job offer” came from local lumber and wood products business Boise Cascade. The company said it was news to them and Biden had not previously described an interest in moving to the state.

    In January, Biden told students of historically black colleges in Atlanta that he was arrested during civil rights protests — for which there also is no evidence.

    And in May, Biden said at the Naval Academy’s graduation ceremony that he was appointed to the military school in 1965 by the late Sen. J. Caleb Boggs (R-Del.). A search of Boggs’ archives failed to turn up evidence of the appointment.

    All lies coming from Biden's Handlers...

    And ya'all's condemnation???

    {{cchhhiiirrrrpppp}} {{ccchhhiiirrrrppppp}}

    But, I get it.. I really do..

    Ya'all are thinking it's unfair to call someone a liar when they are just suffering from senility and dementia...

    So I understand where ya'all are coming from... :D

    Ya'all see the point??

    No matter WHERE ya'all are coming from... It's ALL bad for Biden's Handlers and Democrats.. :D

  64. [64] 
    Kick wrote:

    MtnCaddy
    28

    Thanks, Kick.

    You are very welcome.

    Here's your reward:

    Beau shoots down the silly notion of Let's have a Civil War 2.0! (12:05)

    Nice video, and Beau is correct.

    AS YOU do, Beau gets right to the point and all I'd add is that not only would our military have the people's support but that shortly after they annihilate the first couple of groups of rebels, these knuckleheads will conclude that maybe "the Intel on this wasn't 100%" and that would be the end of it.

    And for those misinformed rubes who manage to escape with their lives although maybe not their limbs, they can spend time in the federal penitentiary system where they will have shit-tons of (not so free) free time to ponder how ignorance isn't necessarily bliss.

  65. [65] 
    Michale wrote:

    Fully vaccinated... Fully boosted...

    Biden gets COVID!!! :D

    What's the fatality rate for COVID in the late 70s???

    Asking for a friend...

  66. [66] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    Not that i have the time or energy to read it it all anyway, but why have you stopped using blockquote?

  67. [67] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    4 year old shoots at police to protect scumbag father...

    THAT is how good parents Democrats are.. :eyeroll:

    RIGHT! White guy in Utah with a Mormon "holy name" who believes that arming children is his child's right and that laws do not apply to him...

    That's a Trumpster!

  68. [68] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    What's the fatality rate for COVID in the late 70s???

    Fully vaccinated and fully boosted... it's pretty low actually if there are no preexisting medical issues. For those who took horse dewormer instead of getting vaccinated because they didn't want Bill Gates to know when they pee, it'd be fatal. Remember, it's your RIGHT to be TARDED!

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    "This was just an epic self-own for Randi Weingarten, her teachers' union's own poll tearing the narrative into shreds. It found that Republicans were winning on the issue of education and that Democrats were more likely to be viewed as over-politicizing the classroom, which is the complete opposite of what Randi Weingarten has been tweeting every single day. She's been blaming the Republicans, but her own poll found that the Democrats, if anything, were more responsible for over-politicizing the classroom. And since then, there's been another poll that just came out from the Democrats for education reform, also finding Republicans up on the issue of education by about three percentage points overall and by nine percentage points with parents. The GOP has a perfect opportunity here to become the parents' party. Hopefully, they don't screw it up and can learn from Glenn Youngkin in Virginia. He showed them the way to lean into parental rights. It's a political winner. And look, if you want a red wave, this is the way to do it."
    Corey DeAngelis, American Federation For Children

    The only thing better than a PWN is a self-PWN!!! :D

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    Russ,

    You just can't help but spew idiocy, can ya Russ..

    Sadaat is a muslim name.... :eyeroll:

    Sadaat is a Muslim Boy Name. Sadaat name meaning is Happiness. It has multiple Islamic meaning. The name is originated from Arabic.

    Jeeze, Russ... Did your second to last brain cell die???

    Fully vaccinated and fully boosted... it's pretty low actually if there are no preexisting medical issues

    How does senility and dementia affect the fatality of COVID in those over 75??

    Asking for a friend.. :D

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:

    Twitter explodes after Dave Chappelle show is cancelled in Minnesota: ‘Totalitarian censorship’

    One Twitter user thanked the venue for 'making the right call' and cancelling
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-explodes-dave-chappelle-show-cancelled-minnesota-totalitarian-censorship

    Democrats LOVE diversity.. But only diversity they agree with.. :eyeroll:

  72. [72] 
    Michale wrote:

    I mean, com'on Russ..

    Use your brain for something else besides shoulder ballast..

    The guy fights cops, he's a muslim and he tells his 4 yr old to SHOOT the cops..

    OF COURSE he's a Democrat!!!!

    "DOI..."
    -Vannilope Von Schweetz, WRECK IT RALPH

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    Teachers' union survey backfires, turns into 'epic self-own' for Democrats, says education policy expert
    Corey DeAngelis on surprising results suggesting Republicans are winning on education

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/teachers-union-survey-backfires-turns-epic-self-own-democrats-education-policy-expert

    "Don't ask questions you don't want to know the answer to.."
    Agent K, MEN IN BLACK III

    :D

  74. [74] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Sadaat is a muslim name.... :eyeroll:

    And Abraham is consider the First Prophet of Islam. He's also considered the First Prophet for all major religions... they all stem from Abraham.

    It's also why LDS name their children after those that lived under Abraham. Holy names from Christianity, Islam, Judaism -- and Mormonism to a lesser degree -- ALL come from the same place. Do you really know none of this?

  75. [75] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, you are claiming that mormon = muslim

    BBBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

    You just can't admit yer wrong...

  76. [76] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    68

    Fully vaccinated and fully boosted... it's pretty low actually if there are no preexisting medical issues.

    Dead on accurate, Russ, and due to the fact that the current septuagenarian POTUS obviously has taken proactive measures and regularly rides a bike and is physically fit (versus riding a golf cart and refusing to walk), he's much more unlikely to be rushed to the hospital presenting with dangerously low oxygen levels and gasping for air, as was the case with the obviously obese, out of shape, COVID-denying former septuagenarian POTUS who is a dead ringer for Fat Bastard:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPaQ3mphVEU

    Of course, me pointing out that Donald and Fat Bastard are demonstrably so similar means that I've exposed the fact that Ted Cruz and I agree on at least one thing. However, if I were the size of Rafael Cruz a.k.a. Fat Wolverine, I most definitely wouldn't be obtuse enough to call attention to obese Republican presidential wannabes.

    For those who took horse dewormer instead of getting vaccinated because they didn't want Bill Gates to know when they pee, it'd be fatal.

    Heh. I certainly wouldn't discount the fact that their regularly demonstrated obvious ignorance where COVID-19 is concerned could most definitely be (was already) fatal to their presidential aspirations.

    If we didn't test, we wouldn't have cases. But we have cases because we test.

    Donald Trump, June 25, 2020

    *
    It's a simple (minded) Trumpian concept that applies to all kinds of medical testing, you know, like pregnancy testing and how if we didn't have pregnancy testing, we wouldn't have babies, but we have babies because we test.

    And I lost count of how many times Dipshit Donald claimed it would "go away" and "disappear" any day now. Not to be outdone in the stupid department, Ted Cruz jumped on the COVID denying/downplaying idiot train:

    If it ends up that Biden wins in November -- I hope he doesn't, I don't think he will -- but if he does, I guarantee you the week after the election, suddenly all those Democratic governors, all those Democratic mayors, will say, "Everything's magically better. Go back to work. Go back to school. Suddenly all the problems are solved." You won't to have to wait for Biden to be sworn in.

    ~ Rafael Cruz, July 22, 2020

    *
    Remember, it's your RIGHT to be TARDED!
    *
    I'd say the multiple right-wing fat assed COVID-denying/downplaying right-wing morons are living proof of that... and all the deceased ones are dead proof.

  77. [77] 
    Michale wrote:

    So, because religions had a common theme thousands and thousands of years ago, you think a muslim name today is actually mormon??

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

    I bet when you hear hoofbeats, you automatically think "GIRAFFES", right???

    BBBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    So, when this scumbag terrorist is hanging out with his muslim terrorist buddies, he says, "Hi.. My name is Sadaat."

    And his terrorist buddies say, "Sadaat??? Oh you must be mormon, eh???"

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Jeezus, Russ... I mean I know yer a mental midget, but THIS really takes the cake...

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  78. [78] 
    Michale wrote:

    A coalition of the redpilled flees the left

    Ruy Teixeira has left the Center for American Progress and will, on August 1, start as a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. That sentence will, of course, mean absolutely nothing to the overwhelming majority of Americans. It may not even mean much to you, a subscriber to this email about political life in the country’s capital.

    But this admittedly very Beltway development is the latest development in a bigger story. For a sense of the way in which Teixeira’s move is a sign of the times, imagine telling a Washingtonian who’d been in a coma for fifteen years that a mainstay of progressive DC and the author of The Emerging Democratic Majority is about to start work at the think tank that had the ear of the Bush administration and has long been a byword for the conservative establishment. It would be unfathomable. So what changed? Not Teixeira’s own views, he insists in an interview with Politico. “I’m just a social democrat, man. Trying to make the world a better place,” he says.

    Teixeira’s move was born of exasperation at progressive organizations’ preoccupation with identity politics at the expense of class: “I would say that anybody who has a fundamentally class-oriented perspective, who thinks that’s a more important lens and doesn’t assume that any disparity is automatically a lens of racism or sexism or what have you… I think that perspective is not congenial in most left institutions,” he told Michael Shaffer.

    Reading of Teixeira’s frustration brought to mind a must-read article by Ryan Grim published last month on the Intercept that painted a convincing picture of a progressive movement paralyzed by woke navel-gazing, internal rows and Slack-channel revolutionaries.
    https://spectatorworld.com/newsletter/coalition-redpilled-dc-diary-07-18-22/

    It's clear to anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together that progressives have totally wrecked the Democrat Party...

    Which is GOOD news for America because that means that a good portion of the Democrat morons will be thrown out of office in a few months..

    Which means that the GOP can get started on continuing President Trump's work to make AMERICA FIRST...

    So... THANK YOU, Progressives...

    Thank you for destroying the Democrat Party... Much appreciated..

  79. [79] 
    Michale wrote:

    Do you know how bad Progressives frak'ed up the Democrat Party??

    San Francisco is flirting with a surveillance society that would make London blush with envy..

    Crime-Obsessed San Francisco Flirts With ‘Police State’ Crackdown

    Just weeks later, local officials have lurched in a dramatically new direction, advancing a sprawling surveillance program that would tap into private cameras across the city.

    Under the latest policy proposed by a newly emboldened police department—and backed by Mayor London Breed and the new DA’s office—cops would be able to watch residents in real time during a “significant event with public safety concerns,” and as part of “investigations” relating to both “active misdemeanors” as well as felonies.

    The cameras available for access would include those with a variety of both low- and high-level capabilities. Everything from commercial to private doorbell cameras could ultimately be employed to keep tabs on possible crimes.

    It’s not exactly shocking that the new district attorney, Brooke Jenkins, who helped lead the campaign to oust her former boss in Boudin, would push for new ways of helping cops crack down on crime. Critics who powered the recall also honed in on hate crimes against Asian Americans in the city, and the perception that Boudin—who once suggested an alleged murderer had a “temper tantrum”—was not taking them seriously.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/crime-obsessed-san-francisco-flirts-with-police-state-crackdown/ar-AAZOgQp

    How badly have progressives scroo'ed da pooch that they would turn ultra-blue San Fran into a police state.. :D

    I mean, that's REALLY funny, eh?? :D

  80. [80] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Michale [43]

    During Covid, normalcy was undoubtedly appealing. Under the direction of Governor Ron DeSantis, Florida had notably reopened much earlier than any of the blue states.

    Life there largely returned to normal, and businesses followed their workers as they looked for this freedom.

    You think that companies based in NYC and SF just up and moved because their employees had moved to Florida because DeSantis opened FL earlier than any of the blue states? Everyone just loaded up their trucks and moved to FL like the opening of the Boca Hillbillies?

    Florida's Covid deaths increased at a much higher rate than any other state. It has the highest number of daily average deaths: 61.9. So I can see why Florida would be so tempting to people who think ingesting aquarium cleaner and horse dewormer provide better protection than getting vaccinated for Covid.

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    And, per the norm...

    Russ has absolutely NO FACTS to back up any of his bullshit..

    Yer just embarrassed that you thought Sadaat was a mormon name...

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    Face reality, Russ... You can't win... I am in charge here.. :D

  82. [82] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    So, when this scumbag terrorist is hanging out with his muslim terrorist buddies, he says, "Hi.. My name is Sadaat."

    And his terrorist buddies say, "Sadaat??? Oh you must be mormon, eh???"

    So because the name is Arabic in origin the person with it is a terrorist? Typical for you.

    I never said that it's typical Mormon name. But because the guy is in Utah, is white and his 4 year old was exercising his 2nd Amendment Right by being armed, it sure seemed more probable that he's Mormon then Muslim. He's white trash. He's a Trump supporter!

    I've met two Ishmel's in my live. One was Muslim and the other was Mennonite. Two very different religions.

    So you think a person's name tells you so much about them? What about the girl whose first and middle names are Sunshine Megatron. Is she a robot hippie in disguise?

    Do you even know that Mormon's have secret holy names that are for when they ascend to heaven and that are typically biblical ones? The only way I learned about them was because some Mormons, when they leave the church, will change their names to their secret holy name as a last parting "F-U" to the LDS religion. I attract Mormons no matter where I have moved for some reason. I've lived next door to Mormons in 5 of the houses and in three different states.

  83. [83] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    82

    So because the name is Arabic in origin the person with it is a terrorist? Typical for you.

    As every right-wing bloviating xenophobic bigot will readily explain to you: Everyone knows a gun-wielding Muslim is obviously a "scumbag terrorist" (certainly not my definition) and obviously a Democrat.

    Facts to support?

    Mehmet Oz

    https://tinyurl.com/mr25sjft

    Oh, wait!

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_auXN7DzfY

    Now THAT's what I am talking about!!!

  85. [85] 
    Michale wrote:

    I never said that it's typical Mormon name.

    RIGHT! White guy in Utah with a Mormon "holy name"
    -Russ

    And yer STILL spewin' BS....

    . He's a Trump supporter!

    And your FACTS to support this??

    You are doing the EXACT same thing that you accuse me of doing..

    But in MY case, I have the facts..

    This guy told his 4 yr old to shoot cops..

    THAT alone PROVES he is a Democrat....

    Once again, you are completely and 1000% full of shit..

    :D

  86. [86] 
    Michale wrote:

    Everyone knows a gun-wielding Muslim is obviously a "scumbag terrorist"

    No, but every scumbag muslim who tells his 4yr to shoot cops is DEFINETLY a Democrat...

    "DOI..."
    -Vannilope Von Schweetz, WRECK IT RALPH

  87. [87] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    86

    No, but every scumbag muslim who tells his 4yr to shoot cops is DEFINETLY a Democrat...

    Thank you for the written representation/confirmation that you're a xenophobic bigot... not that any more proof was required, just to state the patently obvious.

    "DOI..."
    -Vannilope Von Schweetz, WRECK IT RALPH

    The "house of the mouse" would like to thank you and all the other mouth-breathing moronic totally clueless hypocritical right-wing prattling dipshits with the inability to connect dots, possessing zero self-awareness, and with shit filling up the spaces where your brains ought to be for y'alls' continued perpetual and permanently archived support for Disney. When you meet or exceed your own definition of a "child groomer," it dang sure doesn't get much dumber than that.

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