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The Season Finale

[ Posted Thursday, July 21st, 2022 – 16:16 UTC ]

I write this just before the start of the season finale of "House Select Committee Investigates January 6th" -- which I should mention is not actually the title of a television miniseries, as these hearings are not being presented for entertainment purposes. They are being presented for informational purposes, because every American deserves to know what happened before, during, and after that dark day in American history. They are hours-long extended public service announcements, in other words. Very sober proceedings exposing very serious crimes and misdemeanors -- including, tonight, dereliction of duty by the country's commander-in-chief.

All of that is doubtlessly true, and yet... they still are television shows. I've been aware of this from the beginning, when I began referring to the hearings as "episodes." Tonight will be "Episode 8," although in truth it will actually be the ninth public hearing from the select committee (the "pilot show" aired last summer, featuring four police officers who fought for their country and the U.S. Constitution that day).

And I have to say, here at the end of the summer season, the committee has handled the "television show" aspect of the hearings almost flawlessly. Each episode was riveting and informative, without getting too much into the weeds of minutiae. All of the witnesses were chosen brilliantly, since they all have had very compelling stories to tell, and their stories have all added vital pieces to the puzzle of understanding just what took place... and how, and why. The hearings haven't dragged on too long (two to three hours each), and the chair usually calls a "bathroom break" halfway through. All the serious broadcast networks (all except Fox, in other words) have carried all these hearings live. Tonight will be the second primetime hearing, a bookend to the first hearing.

This has all led to success in the one place it counts, when it comes to television -- ratings. The ratings for these hearings have been sky-high, even the ones presented during daytime television. More people watched one of the daytime hearings than watched every game of the professional basketball finals except for one. Those are unheard of ratings for a daytime show, much less a live congressional hearing. Even the surprise hearing -- announced just the day before it happened -- garnered a huge audience. Tonight's ratings will assumably also be sky-high, as the "buzz" already generated is that tonight will be the "187-minute hearing," which will lay out a timeline for everything Donald Trump did -- and, more importantly, did not do -- during the riotous insurrection attempt, between the end of his rally and when he finally sent out a tweet to his rabid follows to leave the Capitol and go home. We have also been teased by the possibility of seeing outtake clips from Trump attempting to record a video the next day, January 7th, to calm the nation. That ought to make for some riveting television indeed!

The committee deserves a large portion of the credit for the excellence of the presentation. Their format has remained largely the same for each episode: first, both Chair Bennie Thompson and Vice-Chair Liz Cheney make opening statements. Cheney almost always lays out what the current hearing will cover in broad strokes, as a preview, while Thompson usually pontificates about what a serious matter this all is, and how un-American the idea of using force to stop a presidential vote from being certified truly is (or should be) to all American citizens.

Then two questioners from the committee members are allowed to either present their case for the first hour (with plenty of video exhibits and testimony to provide the details) and then move on to questioning the live witnesses during the second hour (a few episodes have had the live witnesses from the start, but for the people who are definitely not used to sitting before congressional committees, the questioning has been much shorter and to-the-point.

At the end of the hearing, the questioners are allowed to make closing statements, and then the chair and vice-chair do as well. Liz Cheney again stands out, because she uses her time for two important purposes: after her own review of the day's proceedings, she previews what the next hearing will cover (in a kind of "Tune in next time, folks!" teaser) and then (if necessary) issues stern warnings to Trump and those in Trumpworld to stop trying to tamper with the witnesses. Again, Thompson presents a "more in sorrow than in anger" closing speech, tying the events into American history and offering a 30,000-foot-view perspective, while Cheney makes damn sure everyone knows Donald Trump's true culpability in everything presented. January 6th did "just happen." It was planned, it was prepared, and it was set in motion by one man and one man alone -- as Cheney keeps helpfully pointing out.

At the start of this round of public hearings -- the beginning of the season, as it were -- we learned that the committee had hired a consultant who used to be a network news executive. I have no real idea how much he influenced the presentation of each of these episodes, but their quality and level of interest seem to indicate that this was indeed a brilliant move. It's entirely fitting, in a way, since Donald Trump presented his entire presidency as not just a television show but as a multimedia experience.

Think about it -- just how different what we have seen unveiled has been from any other normal congressional committee hearings. Instead of the traditional "five minutes for every committee member to question the witness," we have had a cohesive narrative presented by a tag team of only two at a time. And the biggest difference -- which can entirely be laid at the door of Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy -- there are zero committee members who are solely interested in a mixture of two goals: provide as much disruption and discord to the proceedings as possible, and get your own face on television for the soundbites afterwards by being as obnoxious and outrageous as possible. That has made all the difference in the world. McCarthy easily could have named anywhere from three to five committee members, as long as he didn't nominate the very people the committee were going to investigate, but he chose instead to "take his ball and glove and go home." This was solely his unforced error, really.

Republicans all desperately want to dismiss all of this as some sort of partisan show, but this is laughable due to two incontrovertible facts: the presence of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger on the committee, and the fact that virtually all of the important witnesses are not just staunch Republicans but Republicans who were part of Trump's orbit. He chose all these people, in other words. They were his underlings. It is impossible to see someone like Bill Barr as some sort of secret Democrat or lefty mole. Which completely undermines the whole "It's all partisan!" excuse.

All in all, the committee deserves praise for this must-watch summer miniseries. It ran longer than they intended (their original plan was to do it all in June) and they even had to add an episode on the fly, but the quality of the proceedings as well as the overall narrative they've presented have both been top-notch.

Tonight was supposed to be the big finale, but in reality it will likely be only the season finale, not the series finale. The committee has reportedly been swamped with more and more people coming forward to add their testimony to the picture, and new issues have popped up which truly demand a closer look (such as the Secret Service blithely deleting text messages from January 5th and 6th). So we could (and probably will) see a number of other episodes later on. But tonight will close the main storyline out. Tonight will wrap all the threads the committee has previous examined in detail into one package. Because tonight will center on the man at the center of the attempted coup himself. We're all going to learn, minute by minute, what Donald Trump did on January 6th when he could have been calling off his murderous insurrectionists. We already kind of know the spoiler -- "He did nothing. He cheered them on while he watched on teevee." -- but there will doubtless be some shocking and surprising details to paint the picture in full.

So sit back, pop some popcorn, and join me in watching the season finale to the most compelling miniseries of the summer.

 

[Program Note: Tomorrow's Friday Talking Points column will, as I warned at the start of all of this, be pre-empted by my write-up of tonight's hearing. FTP will return as usual next Friday.]

 

[Technical Footnote: Readers who happen to be eagle-eyed progressive rock fans will have noticed that when I provided the link to my pre-season column on the hearings -- a column which began with lyrics from an Emerson, Lake, and Palmer song -- I placed the link on the phrase "from the beginning," which (of course) is another good ELP song, and one that everybody of a certain age already knows and will recognize instantly. You're welcome.]

-- Chris Weigant

 

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94 Comments on “The Season Finale”

  1. [1] 
    Kick wrote:

    CW

    All of that is doubtlessly true, and yet... they still are television shows. I've been aware of this from the beginning, when I began referring to the hearings as "episodes."

    I see what you did there; nice throwback, CW.

    January 6th did "just happen."

    My verb choice there would have most definitely been "didn't."

    It was planned, it was prepared, and it was set in motion by one man and one man alone -- as Cheney keeps helpfully pointing out.

    A premeditated conspiracy to defraud the United States of America definitely set in motion when the bigliest loser claimed (before all the votes were counted) that he won the election:

    "Frankly, we did win this election. We did win this election. So our goal now is to ensure the integrity for the good of this nation. This is a very big moment. This is a major fraud in our nation. We want the law to be used in a proper manner. So we’ll be going to the US Supreme Court. We want all voting to stop. We don’t want them to find any ballots at four o’clock in the morning..."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Fast forward ~2 months:
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    "I just want to find 11,780 votes..."

    *

    Definitely need to find a good lawyer, Benedict Donald.

  2. [2] 
    Kick wrote:

    Yesterday is a hard word for me.

    ~ Donald Trump, January 7, 2021

    *

    Yesterday
    All my troubles seemed so far away
    Now it looks as though they're here to stay
    Oh, I believe in yesterday

    Suddenly
    I'm not half the man I used to be
    There's a shadow hanging over me
    Oh, yesterday came suddenly

  3. [3] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Hoo, boy!

    Just finished S1/E7. I won't"step on"* CW in anticipation of his forthcoming write up.

    But I will say this:

    If anyone asks me which one of the first seven episodes they should watch if I had to pick just one it'd be this one.

    *In the music business to "step on" one of your band mates is to start shredding over the vocalist or guitarist or whomever's time it is to shine.

  4. [4] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [2]

    Such a tasty choice!

    The spirit of Sunday Night lives on.

  5. [5] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @k[1],

    you beat me to that proofreading gem. i had it copied and everything!

    [2],
    now i need a place to hide away?

    @caddy[3],

    ok, you convinced me. i'll watch the whole thing, not just the highlights.

    [4],
    spirits in the night?

  6. [6] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Smells like teen spirit, mayhaps?

  7. [7] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    I caught the typo too, it being the wrong word at the right time.

    But I figured that tonight's writeup is enroute and he doesn't have time to monitor Weigantia.

  8. [8] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Patience, Fellow Travellers.

    There was a ton of info packed into over two hours. And once Chris posts it's there to haunt him the rest of his days.

    It's like our DoJ. The wait will be well worth it.

  9. [9] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [7]

    Ahem...But I figured that tonight's writeup is enroute and he doesn't have time to monitor Weigantia.

    Absent any sign that he's monitoring Weigantia, perhaps old CW is honing a masterpiece write up to match the job J6C did (up to and especially including) tonight's episode. Dunno about anyone else here, but it takes time to throw out all the extra words, to pare it down.

  10. [10] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    (Jeopardy theme music)

  11. [11] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    5

    you beat me to that proofreading gem. i had it copied and everything!

    The early bird catches the term ;)

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    FPC

    As usual, Victoria is hell bent on starting another Weigantia Flame War..

    And, as usual, Vick doesn't realize that I am in complete control here, so I simply will not permit it to happen.. :D

    To recap..

    Some muslim scumbag Democrat decided to assault cops and when said Democrat got bitch-slapped to the ground, said scumbag Democrat told his 4yr old son to shoot the cops..

    Which the 4yr old son promptly did..

    Fortunately no cops were hit..

    And then Russ rushes to the defense of the scumbag Democrat muslim terrorist, as per his usual moronic-ness...

    And here we are.. :D

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    As for the Cardassian 6JC..

    It seems ya'all are in complete agreement with me..

    The Cardassian 6JC is nothing but a fictionalized Hollywood production complete with episodes and a GOT-style season finale...

    Once again, we have complete agreement here in Weigantia.. :D

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    And ANOTHER GOP'er is once again violently attacked..

    Lee Zeldin, New York GOP gubernatorial candidate, attacked at campaign stop

    New York Rep. Lee Zeldin was unharmed after the incident
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lee-zeldin-new-york-gop-gubernatorial-candidate-attacked-campaign-stop

    And the condemnation from Weigantians who have claimed that they will condemn ALL political violence, regardless if it comes from the Right or the Left??

    {{ccchhhhiiiirrrrpppppp}}{{cccchhhiiiirrrrpppp}}

    Hypocrisy is not a bug in Democrat code. It's a feature.

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    Strange..

    The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES gets COVID and there is not a single mention of that.. :eyeroll:

    Instead it's all about the fiction Hollywood production of the Cardassian 6JC...

    Weigantia is sure lucky to have me here..

    Ya'all wouldn't know ANYTHING about the facts if it wasn't for me.. :D

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    Allow me to give ya'all the facts of the Cardassian 6JC...

    Why the Jan. 6 committee is doomed to fail

    Voters on all sides see it for the show trial that it is

    The Jan. 6 committee is not really a committee of Congress like normal people understand the term, nor is it an arm of the judiciary, nor is it restrained by things like rules of evidence, restrictions against hearsay or requirements to share information with opposing counsel.

    There is no opposing counsel. There are no judge, no jury, no rules and no cross-examination of witnesses. Nothing but a propaganda machine, replete with soundbites and visuals and slick production values. The committee even hired a Hollywood television producer to improve the look.

    The Jan. 6 reality-television show has nothing to do with assessing guilt and assigning punishment. That is, as it has been for some time, happening over at the D.C. courthouse, where it is grinding patiently through the actual administration of justice in this matter.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jul/20/why-the-jan-6-committee-is-doomed-to-fail/

    The Cardassian 6JC exists for one reason and one reason only..

    To prevent President Trump from running in 2024..

    That's it.. This is what ALL of us agree on..

    And, the ones who have more than 2 brain cells to rub together ALSO agree..

    It will fail..

    Poor Democrats will have to face an even STRONGER President Trump in the run-up to the 2024 elections.. :D

    And Demcorats won't be able to hide behind their COVID bullshit either.. :D

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    Moreover, the committee is not even in any sense a congressional committee, as the minority members were chosen by the House speaker rather than the minority party. That fact, which has become obscured over time, is enough to disqualify the committee as a legitimate function of Congress.

    The FACTS clearly show that the Cardassian 6JC is illegitimate..

    And the "bombshells" produced by it's witnesses fell flat and were PROVEN to be bullshit almost as soon as the BS was uttered...

    The Cardassian 6JC has absolutely ZERO credibility...

    The committee is really a star chamber, a secret court designed to deal with political opponents. The Jan. 6 committee has kept almost all of its actual processes and results cloaked. It has interviewed more than a thousand people. It has thousands of hours of recorded interviews and has received hundreds of thousands of pages of documents. Almost none of that vast storehouse of information has been shared with the public.

    This is how Democrats operate... In smoke-filled back rooms..

    ZERO transparency whatsoever...

    It's why Democrats are going to get creamed in November..

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    Rather, the committee, under the direct supervision of Democratic leadership, has carefully shared only the most carefully selected and edited moments from these interviews. If the Republicans win back the majority in the House in November, one of their first acts when they take over in January should be to make all of the recorded interviews and all of the documents — all of it — available to the public for a thorough, balanced and full examination.

    Yes... When the GOP owns Congress, ALL of the facts will come it.. Including Democrat so-called "leaders" screwing up badly in the run up to 6 Jan...

    Only with the GOP in control will we get ALL the facts and not just the cherry-picked bullshit that we have seen to date..

    What we are watching is, of course, a cynical and political attempt by the Democrats — and what remains of the legacy Republicans — to disqualify former President Donald Trump from running for office again. But it is larger and more ominous than that — it is an attempt by Democrats and legacy Republicans to stop important political and demographic changes they don’t like.

    Democrats need to come to grips with reality..

    Ya'all are going to lose.. And lose BIG...

    And now that the Cardassian 6JC has plopped out and ran out of steam????

    Democrats got NOTHING left.. :D

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are shedding working-class voters of all colors and rapidly becoming the party of college graduates who are motivated by issues such as abortion and climate change. At the same time, Republicans are building a multiracial working-class coalition focused on economic and cultural nationalism, border security and a strong but limited government.

    Mr. Trump has accelerated all of that, which is why defeating him is not sufficient for the Democrats, who have only recently figured out that the current trajectory is not particularly good for them. They must disqualify the very idea of Mr. Trump and drive his adherents out of the public square.

    Unfortunately for them, the Jan. 6th committee — poorly constructed and obviously political — has become an embarrassment. Voters on all sides see the committee for the show trial that it is. Most clearly understand that the geriatric and teetering Democrats only care about clinging to power — whatever the means.

    The facts are clear people..

    Americans don't care about 6 Jan anymore.. :D

    Ya'all know.. I know it...

    Like the Russia Collusion Delusion that came before... The Cardassian 6JC is a huge nothing burger..

    Americans simply don't care....

    And again, JUST like the Russia Collusion Delusion, Democrats are left with nothing but their limp dicks in their hands.. :D

    Who could have POSSIBLY predicted that this would all turn out to be nothing but an extension of the Russia Collusion Delusion, eh??

    Who could have POSSIBLY predicted this!!???

    Oh... Wait.. :D

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES gets COVID and there is not a single mention of that.. :eyeroll:

    Instead it's all about the fiction Hollywood production of the Cardassian 6JC...

    And on the same day that Biden's Handlers announces he has COVID...

    Biden's Handlers ALSO announces he has cancer..

    And yet, not a single mention in the Weigantian news services, eh??

    How crazy is that!? :^/

    Boy, you people sure are lucky to have me here...

    Otherwise ya'all would just have to wallow in ignorance...

    Yer welcome...

    "What can I say except 'YER WELCOME'!!!"
    Maui, MOANA

    :D

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    Another cop-killing Democrat scumbag in good standing has been convicted of murder...

    BLM Rioter Found Guilty of Murdering Black Missouri Police Captain

    A Missouri jury on Wednesday found a man guilty of murdering a retired black police captain during the violent racial riots of 2020 that erupted after the killing of George Floyd.

    Stephan Cannon was convicted of all felony charges brought against him: first-degree murder, first-degree robbery, first-degree burglary, stealing $750 or more, unlawful possession of a firearm, and three counts of armed criminal action.

    Cannon had been accused of gunning down police officer David Dorn, 77, as he attended to a burglar alarm at a friend’s pawn shop, where looters had descended to capitalize on the chaos of the Floyd protests. Cannon was among the robbers Dorn confronted by the business before he was slain.

    Prosecutors obtained video footage of the incident, originally shared to Facebook Live but later removed, and played it in court to support their case. Attorney Marvin Teer claimed that Cannon fired ten shots at Dorn, killing him, as he arrived at the scene and fired off warning shots to stop the looters, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.
    https://tinyurl.com/mrxzk7hb

    And the condemnation from Democrats and Weigantians???

    {{ccchhhiiirrrrppppp}}{{cccchhhiiirrrrpppp}}

    Of course there is no condemnation because this scumbag is simply another Democrat hero....

    It's sad and pathetic that Democrat heroes are scumbags like George Floyd and Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin and this new hero, Stephen Cannon

    :eyeroll:

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    And the condemnation from Democrats and Weigantians???

    {{ccchhhiiirrrrppppp}}{{cccchhhiiirrrrpppp}}

    Hay... Don't get pissy with me..

    *YA'ALL* claimed that you condemn political violence no matter WHERE it comes from, Right or Left...

    I am simply pointing out the FACT that ya'all never actually do...

    Once again, I bring FACTS to the fact-less... :D

    "It's what I do"
    -Colonel Danning, STARGATE SG-1

    :D

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    While certain high-profile cases from the 2020 street mayhem, such as that of Kyle Rittenhouse, received disproportionate media attention, Dorn’s case, of a black cop killed by rioters in cold-blood for TVs, was largely forgotten by the mainstream press.

    Typical of Democrats.. :eyeroll:

    Scumbag pedophile and wife-beater Democrats get killed in a righteous case of self defense..

    THAT is important to the Democrat Party agenda..

    But a cop gets killed by a scumbag BLM Democrats..

    THAT gets ignored..

    That's ya'all's Democrats, people...

    You must be so proud to be part of that, eh? :eyeroll:

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    Alleged Lee Zeldin attempted attacker charged with felony, immediately released just as congressman predicted

    Rep. Zeldin took to Twitter to say be believed his suspected attacker would be 'instantly released under NY's laws'
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/alleged-lee-zeldin-attempted-attacker-charged-felony-immediately-released-just-congressman-predicted

    Yep.. The Democrat Party = The Pro Criminal Party...

    The medal awarding ceremony for Rep Zeldin's attacker is already being planned by Democrats...

    So much for the claim that Democrats condemn all political violence regardless...

    :eyeroll:

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK... So lets recap the events of yesterday vis a vis the Cardassian 6JC....

    Democrats, Trump/America haters and ya'all are saying that, in word and deed, President Trump was "silent" on the 6 Jan riot...

    And by being "silent" on the issue, ya'all are claiming that THAT means President Trump condoned the 6 Jan riot..

    Because President Trump was "silent" on the issue of the 6 Jan riot, ya'all are saying that President Trump gave "ASSENT" to the 6 Jan riot..

    So.... What ya'all, Democrats, Trump/America haters AND Weigantians....

    What ya'all are saying is... SILENCE GIVES ASSENT

    I accept ya'all's concession that SILENCE does indeed, gives ASSENT... :D

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Gods, you people are so damn easy!!!! :D

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    Did I read you correctly that you have cancelled the Sunday Music Fest???

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    For Democrats, Fear Is the Path to Victory in November
    https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-fear-path-victory-november-opinion-1726361

    Yep... That's it EXACTLY...

    ALL Democrats have is fear mongering..

    They have PROVEN beyond ANY doubt that they are incompetent in governance...

    So now Democrats are simply using fear to try and score points..

    Typical America hating Democrats.. :eyeroll:

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    "You are NOT going to get covid if you are vaccinated!!"
    -Biden's Handlers, Jul 2021

    Biden's Handlers gets covid..
    -Jul 2022

    So, basically Biden's Handlers were LYING...

    AGAIN....

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    Trump gave order to 'make sure' Jan. 6 rally was 'safe event,' Pentagon memo shows

    Gen. Milley’s recollection undercuts months-long effort by Democrats to suggest Trump wanted to incite violence: many key questions left unanswered.
    House Democrats' marquee summer show of primetime investigative hearings ended Thursday night where it began: unable or unwilling to answer essential questions about the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

    Chief among them: If Donald Trump wanted to incite violence that fateful day, as his critics suggest, then why did he order the Pentagon to have a large military force ready to quell a disturbance? And why did a Democrat-led Congress turn down the assistance of pop National Guard troops in the face of intelligence warnings about violence?

    By their own admission, Democrats set up the hearings to evade such scrutiny. They declared any questions about what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi knew about the potential for Jan. 6 violence and when she knew it were off limits.

    Secret Service agents were never called to testify in public about whether former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson's story about Trump trying to force his limousine to go to the Capitol were true. And questions about how those in charge of Capitol security responded to FBI and Homeland Security pre-event warnings about potential violence were never asked, much less answered.
    https://justthenews.com/government/congress/trump-gave-explicit-order-about-jan-6-rally-make-sure-it-was-safe-event-dod

    Remember how I told ya'all that Democrats wouldn't call the USSS agents so they could PROVE that the bimbo Hutch's testimony was complete and utter BS...

    Looks like I was dead on ballz accurate...

    AGAIN...

    Once again... Proof positive that the 6JC is nothing but a Cardassian show trial with no relevance to ANYTHING beyond it's primary goal..

    To prevent President Trump from running in 2024...

    Democrats are completely terrified of President Trump running in a FAIR election.. A LEGAL election...

    Because they know President Trump will win such an election...

    "These are the facts of the case.. And they are undisputed."
    -Captain 'Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

    At least, undisputed by those with more than 2 brain cells to rub together....

  30. [30] 
    Michale wrote:

    Instead, the Jan. 6 committee put on hearsay testimony from Hutchinson and released partial transcripts or video snippets of testimony without allowing Republicans or Trump's own lawyers to cross-examine witnesses or challenge the narrative offered to the American public.

    "It's the first time this has happened in my lifetime since McCarthyism, and it's despicable," said famed Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, a lifelong Democrat who voted for Joe Biden in 2020. "The idea that they would interview this witness and allow her to testify to hearsay about the president jumping toward the wheel, without first asking the eye- and ear- witnesses. I've never heard of a lawyer doing that in my 16 years of practicing law. ... It's not only unethical, it's not only unfair, it's bad lawyering.”

    Dershowitz said the committee Democrats and two anti-Trump Republicans — Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger — created a clear perception with their performance of being "partisan zealots" rather than truth-seekers.

    Yep.. The Cardassian 6JC is not about facts or truth or justice...

    It's about ONE THING and ONE THING ONLY...

    Preventing President Trump from running in 2024...

    And, like EVERYTHING Democrat....

    It will fail...

    Just like the Russia Collusion Delusion...

    Just like the Vote Cheating bill...

    Just like the Build Back Broke wet dream...

    Just like EVERYTHING Democrats have done in the last year....

    COMPLETE... ABJECT.... FAILURE.... :D

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    Throughout the summer, Democrats have argued that Trump intended and eventually succeeded in inciting the violence on Jan. 6. "The select committee has found evidence about a lot more than incitement here, and we're gonna be laying out the evidence about all of the actors who were pivotal to what took place on Jan. 6," Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) said at outset of the hearings.

    But the hearings have been undercut by a fundamental fact: Trump's actions before the riot began included urging supporters to "peacefully and patriotically" express their opinions and ordering his top aides to ensure there was a large contingent of National Guard troops at the ready to ensure no trouble ensued.

    A Capitol Police timeline obtained by Just the News shows the Trump Pentagon first offered National Guard troops to the Capitol Police on Jan. 2, 2021, four full days before the event. The police turned down the offer but then began to have second thoughts. The Capitol Police then asked their political minders — the House sergeant at arms chief among them — for permission to accept the troops on Jan. 4 but were turned down on the ground that such a show of force would create bad "optics," the records show.

    The *FACTS* prove President Trump's complete innocence in the events of 6 Jan...

    Just like the *FACTS* prove that Democrats were lying about their Russia Collusion Delusion...

    Facts win the day...

    And the FACTS prove that Democrats are full of kaa-kaa...

  32. [32] 
    Michale wrote:

    Here's one for you, MC....

    http://mfccfl.us/stoned.jpg

    Because yer always stoned off your ass... :eyeroll:

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    In advance of the Jan. 6 rally, the president told the most senior civilian and uniformed leaders of the military he knew the event was going to draw a "large number of protestors," and he instructed the secretary of defense to ensure it was "safe" by having troops available. Democrats have not offered any evidence to counter that story.

    The Pentagon memo also yields insight into the mindset of the Democrat-led Congress, top military officials and the local police before Jan. 6. Key players, it reveals, repeatedly raised concerns about accepting the offer of National Guard help, fearing it would create the perception of a military coup or martial law as the election results were certified.

    Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told the IG "he did not want to create the perception that the military was involved in the electoral process," according to the memo. "He said that Mr. Miller made it clear that the military would not be involved in certifying the election results and that 10 different news agencies asked him about military use and martial law."

    District of Columbia Police Chief Robert Contee also opposed having National Guard troops, but for a different reason. "Chief Contee explained to us that he did not want other Federal law enforcement involved on January 6, 2021, because of the risk associated with having unidentified Federal officers carrying weapons within D.C," the memo recorded.

    President Trump *WANTED* security there..

    Democrats said NO....

    These are the FACTS....

  34. [34] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m [12-33],

    i really would like to read your detailed opinion, i just can't seem to find it.

    maybe you could put all your comments in a google doc first, then distill it all down to maybe three posts with just the main highlights and article links with a one-sentence teaser in {a href=""}{/a} format. you'd both save a lot of unnecessary typing and make it significantly more likely that others (including myself) read the points you'd like to communicate.

    just sayin'
    JL

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    The FBI, Marshal's Service, and Homeland Security Department reportedly bombarded the Capitol Police with raw intelligence warning of potential violence as top security officials were hesitating to deploy National Guard troops out of concern that the "optics" would convey the incorrect political message.

    These intelligence reports, which began to circulate more than two weeks prior to the riot, highlighted online discussion of waging a "bloody war," employing nerve gas, hiding guns, and destroying the Supreme Court. They also singled out two groups, the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, as potential troublemakers.

    John T. Nugent Jr., a Capitol Police intelligence specialist, stated in an email sent to the department's Intelligence and Interagency Coordination Division's distribution list on December 21, 2020, "Right-wing extremists are talking about tunnels below the Capitol Complex and the allegiances of USCP officers."

    The president offered troops, but they were not accepted, and on January 6 the Capitol Police did not adopt a security posture consistent with the threats.

    If Democrats had just listened to President Trump and did as he directed, the 6 Jan riot would never have happened...

    This is fact...

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL

    What's in it for me???

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    I mean, I would have to learn a new system and take a bunch of extra steps...

    Just to get more abuse from the likes of Vick and MC...

    So where's my incentive to do that???

    We had a good thing going but then MC went on a dickhead asshole bender again and Vick is still trying to start a Flame War here...

    Perhaps you should make suggestions to them, eh?

    Maybe have them put all their personal attacks and such in Google Docs... :D

  38. [38] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    So where's my incentive to do that???

    it'd make me and liz VERY happy, and might even help convince a few people that you're right about some things.

    JL

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    Besides, my opinions are perfectly clear..

    I bold the facts and the give my opinion based on the facts..

    What could be simpler???

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    it'd make me and liz VERY happy

    Yea, I did that for a bit.. Yet the personal attacks continued and escalated..


    and might even help convince a few people that you're right about some things.

    Com'on.. YOU don't even believe that

  41. [41] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    also, learning new tricks helps the human brain maintain its cognitive ability, so there's that benefit as well.

    “You can run me, you can starve me and you can beat me and you can kill me. Just don't bore me.”
    ~clint eastwood, heartbreak ridge

  42. [42] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    Com'on.. YOU don't even believe that

    it HAS been known to happen. don't get me wrong, i'm not going to start believing that human-caused global warming is no big deal, or that a fifteen-week abortion is killing a "baby."

    however, there are a number of areas where i'm subject to convincing. liz definitely is. even CW, if you ever get over the fact that he's still alive, has been known to adjust his opinion based on some well-presented information.

    JL

  43. [43] 
    Michale wrote:

    and might even help convince a few people that you're right about some things.

    'Sides.. I don't need to convince anyone..

    I already know I am right :D

  44. [44] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    While it is great that Stephan Cannon was found guilty for his crimes, you just cannot stop lying about members of law enforcement.

    Your headline starts it off:

    BLM Rioter Found Guilty of Murdering Black Missouri Police Captain

    No, he was found guilty of murdering a RETIRED police captain. David Dorn was no longer a police officer and did not pretend that he was still an officer. HE, did not need to lie about his service in law enforcement to make him feel important.

    YOU, and the garbage sites you visit, have no issue with lying to yourselves so that your stories sound better. But Dorn was not an officer when he was shot and killed. Trying to make it sound like a BLM rioter murdered a police officer who fired on him first just shows your desperation to twist the truth to fit your version of reality.

  45. [45] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    I also find it hysterical that you keep pushing the argument that Pelosi in charge of security for Trump's protest rally and that she apparently could overrule the President's command of the National Guard. If there was a threat, why didn't the president just go ahead and order the Guard to be brought in as security?

    This is what is so freaking funny -- You argue that Trump offering the extra security ahead of the event somehow cancels out the fact that during the actual attack on the Capitol (AKA - his failed insurrection attempt), he refused to call out the National Guard to provide manpower to turn away the treasonous crowd. Trump said he wasn't concerned with the crowd being armed because they were not there to harm HIM. How could he know that? Oh yeah, he organized the whole thing.

  46. [46] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    "organized" is a pretty strong word for what that was.

  47. [47] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    And then Russ rushes to the defense of the scumbag Democrat muslim terrorist, as per his usual moronic-ness...

    Oh look, Michale is full of shit once again! Color me shocked!

    I never once defended the guy or his actions. I just pointed out that he was a white guy in Utah who believed it was OK for kids to have real guns and who did not think laws applied to him... That's a TRUMP supporter. Much more likely that he's LDS or former LDS and more than likely is part of a white nationalist group and not an Islamic extremist... not that there is much difference in the two these days.

  48. [48] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    as fascinating as this back and forth on some wackadoo in utah is, can we focus on january 6th, and its aftermath? if donald regains the white house, it's been reported that he plans to fire 50,000 civil service employees and replace them with political hires. that's some 1872 sh*t right there.

    may i just say, adios

  49. [49] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    and in the spirit of acknowledging our imperfections, lookee here, there's a whole new york times series devoted to stuff we on the left were wrong about. and a very important one:

    i was wrong about trump voters
    by bret stephens

  50. [50] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Democrats, Trump/America haters and ya'all are saying that, in word and deed, President Trump was "silent" on the 6 Jan riot...

    Nope. Trump said plenty before/after and on the January 6 riot. The problem is that he failed to ACT on that day. He refused to call off his insurrectionists when the violence began. He was the Commander In Chief -- it was his responsibility to order the National Guard's deployment when the shit hit the fan.

    He refused phone calls from folks begging him to stop the violence in order to call Republican Senators to beg them to prevent the EC vote count for as long as they could. Trump needed them to hold out to give his insurrectionists time to take the Capitol. Trump wasn't silent about January 6. So your entire argument from that point on is moot!

  51. [51] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    12

    As usual, Victoria is hell bent on starting another Weigantia Flame War..

    As per usual, you could not be more totally incorrect due to the fact that your ability to judge character is still highly deficient and couldn't be more wrong. I don't give a flying duck about starting any kind of war, with or without conflagration.

    What I do here is provide a service for y'all. I connect the dots for those whose critical thinking skills rate severely low or are so shockingly absent that they don't even register on the idiot spectrum. There used to more of y'all around here so you're lucky I don't mind providing my dot connection services for but one or two lone imbeciles, presuming the mountain man ever shows up again, of course.

    And, as usual, Vick doesn't realize that I am in complete control here, so I simply will not permit it to happen.. :D

    One only thinks they are in control but never can, could or will be if they keep demonstrating repeatedly that they have zero to no ability to connect dots, combined with a terminal bone deep case of ignorance and in a constant state of denial and fabrication.

    Hypothetical case in point: Say that there was a bloviating troll type on this forum prattling on and on in multiple comment boxes about Disney being "child groomers" and then say perchance that very same cretin was dropping Disney movie quotes over and over in monotonous repetitive rube fashion; this type situation is precisely where the invaluable services I provide for y'all here would generally and generously commence. The insight I might provide to the poor dumb schmuck could resemble something like this:

    The "house of the mouse" would like to thank you and all the other mouth-breathing moronic totally clueless hypocritical right-wing prattling dipshits with the inability to connect dots, possessing zero self-awareness, and with shit filling up the spaces where your brains ought to be for you people's continued perpetual and permanently archived support for Disney. When you meet or exceed your own definition of a "child groomer," it dang sure doesn't get much dumber than that.

    ~ Kick

    *
    Or something along those lines. Somebody's got to step up and inform the poor dumb out of control rubes around here without the ability to connect simple dots that they are the ones who resemble their very own remarks.

    Now I ask you, why shouldn't some kind soul with the intellectual capacity to deduce what is glaringly obviously lacking to wholly nonexistent in someone else come to the rescue of the demonstrably poor imbecilic dipshits who cannot for the life of them connect one dot to another? <--- Rhetorical question

    This is where my services come to you people's rescue. I provide nothing but the facts to y'all... and spelling, grammar, and punctuation.

    To recap..

    A colon would have been more appropriate there. If you don't know what a colon looks like, it's that orange thing wherein your head is permanently affixed. :)

  52. [52] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i saw THAT pun coming.

  53. [53] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    And regarding Trump's offer of the National Guard for January 6th being refused. Trump's rally was the only event that was supposed to occur on that day. The individuals were supposed to remain by the ellipse during the rally and Trump changed the permit so that they could go to the Capitol.

    The rally itself had plenty of security and were set up to keep the crowd under control. Trump knew that their were armed people in the crowd, yet he still called on them to march to the Capitol. He sent armed insurrectionists to go stop the vote count. The Capitol police had no clue that the protesters were going to head to the Capitol. That's why you have video of bike cops acting as crowd control against large mobs. It's why so many officers did not have riot gear on. They were prepared for the rally, they had no warning that Trump intended to send the crowd to stop the count.

    Trump's own SS agents were unaware of his plan to march on the Capitol after the rally was over. That's why they refused to allow Trump to go to the Capitol... they had not prepared for him going there.

    Trump's Jan 6 video outtakes of him being unable to say that he wanted his supporters to stop the violence in his name were priceless!

    Trump claimed that the entire 2016 election that if he were to lose the election, that just proved that the election was corrupted and rigged against him. He was just as shocked as everyone else when he won the election. Remember, he even formed a special committee to investigate the election fraud that he claimed occurred because he lost the popular vote. The committee that met twice and then just faded into oblivion without warning or explanation.

    Of course Trump knew that the only fraud the committee would have found was the fraud that he had ordered be carried out on his behalf.

    Trump started saying the 2020 election would be rigged against him around the time he got busted withholding military aid money from the Ukrainians until the Ukrainian president lied and said they were investigating Joe Biden and his son for corruption. This was before Joe Biden had even announced he was running for president.

    Trump kept saying the elections were all rigged against him, yet he did nothing to prevent it from occurring. He had claimed to have had the proof that it occurred in 2016, so why did he do nothing to go after them to prevent it from happening again in 2020. What kind of leader just allows that sort of corruption against his own campaign to go unanswered so that it costs him his re-election bid four years later??? What a massive idiot!

  54. [54] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    25

    Democrats, Trump/America haters and ya'all are saying that, in word and deed, President Trump was "silent" on the 6 Jan riot...

    Incorrect. The Fat Bastard wasn't the least bit silent on January 6. In case you missed it, he gave a speech to an armed mob he had assembled (whom he had definitely been informed were armed) and then lit a metaphorical match and sent them to the capitol.

    And by being "silent" on the issue, ya'all are claiming that THAT means President Trump condoned the 6 Jan riot..

    Incorrect. Fat Bastard wasn't the least bit "silent" on January 6. In fact, after he aimed the armed mob at the capitol and after he gleefully watched them attack police officers, he then sent a tweet that put a target on the back of the Vice President of the United States.

    Because President Trump was "silent" on the issue of the 6 Jan riot, ya'all are saying that President Trump gave "ASSENT" to the 6 Jan riot..

    Incorrect. Because Fat Bastard was extremely vocal on January 6 via the Orange Blow Hole and via the social media platform he is no longer allowed on -- which Elon Musk still hasn't purchased, but I digress -- and was by no stretch of the imagination "silent," he definitely gave assent in premeditated and conspiratorial fashion.

    So.... What ya'all, Democrats, Trump/America haters AND Weigantians....

    What ya'all are saying is... SILENCE GIVES ASSENT

    Incorrect. I won't speak for everybody like only an intellectually deficient dumbshit would do, but what I'm saying is thank you for proving my point about your head being permanently affixed inside Trump's colon.

    I accept ya'all's concession that SILENCE does indeed, gives ASSENT... :D

    You cannot accept that which was not given so you're saying you've got nothing.

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I see you caught another glimpse of yourself in the mirror.

  55. [55] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Kick

    A colon would have been more appropriate there. If you don't know what a colon looks like, it's that orange thing wherein your head is permanently affixed. :)

    And BOOM! goes the dynamite!

    God, I love you!

    I just realized last night that Michale's threat to falsely report Devon for misconduct to his department makes him Weigantland's own version of Jussie Smollett!!! How had I missed the glaring similarities that the two have in common? Now we have to figure out how to properly address him after this realization -- Uncle Jussie? Mussie Smellitt?

    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    R

  56. [56] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    40

    Yea, I did that for a bit.. Yet the personal attacks continued and escalated..

    You're right about that; your repetitive rube routine and attacks never stop.

    I provide a service to you people. If there are snowflakes among y'all who are here looking for a safe space wherein they are free to post a plethora of insults toward the group as well as individual posters and then whine like little bitches that they are victims, well then you definitely exceed my definition of effing pussies.

    Connecting the dots ain't y'all's stong suit. You're lucky as hell to have someone around who actually can do that and is willing to explain the facts.

    Now quit your effing whining like a coward. If you don't know what a coward is, it's a mouth-breathing dipshit like Josh Hawlin'-Ass Hawley who raises his fist to a group and then runs away like a pussy when they respond.

  57. [57] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    46

    "organized" is a pretty strong word for what that was.

    Heh... ba-dump-bump... but it was definitely organized, poorly and ignorantly such as it was.

    I liked the way the perpetrating morons had the good bad sense to carry the exact same megaphones all around the capitol. It was a dead giveaway right out the gate that it "didn't just happen" and was "organized." Then they had a further attack of rank ignorance and had the good bad sense to post their confessions all over social media... a gobsmacking nice touch. :)

  58. [58] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    47

    Oh look, Michale is full of shit once again! Color me shocked!

    A direct result of having his head affixed permanently up Donald Trump's colon. You see, Donald soils himself, which is why he demanded that the White House staff not touch his sheets, but I digress. Anyone in Donald's general vicinity is going to naturally be the beneficiary of all that streaming excrement. Hence, Michale is full of it.

    We connect dots here, Russ; it's a service we provide.

    I never once defended the guy or his actions.

    You did not.

    I just pointed out that he was a white guy in Utah who believed it was OK for kids to have real guns and who did not think laws applied to him... That's a TRUMP supporter.

    Simple dot connecting; it's what we do.

    Much more likely that he's LDS or former LDS and more than likely is part of a white nationalist group and not an Islamic extremist... not that there is much difference in the two these days.

    I like the way you connect dots for the seriously challenged. Somebody around here's got to do it.

    Love you, Russ. :)

  59. [59] 
    Michale wrote:

    See what I gots ta deal with, Jean Luc??

    Yea... I should be nice to these morons.. :eyeroll:

  60. [60] 
    Michale wrote:

    Vick wants another Flame War...

    And no one has stepped up to reign her in...

    Well, I guess if I want something done right, I gotta do it myself...

    So be it.. :D

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    No, he was found guilty of murdering a RETIRED police captain. David Dorn was no longer a police officer and did not pretend that he was still an officer.

    Now it's known for a FACT that you aren't married to a cop..

    Because, if you were you would know that RETIRED officers are afforded the same courtesy as SERVING officers..

    Why do you hate cops so much, Russ??

    Oh, that's right.. Because you are a Democrat...

    Silly question...

  62. [62] 
    Michale wrote:

    and in the spirit of acknowledging our imperfections,

    You mean, like voting for Biden's Handlers whose approval rating is LOWER than President Trump's... :D

    Gods, that's just gotta sting.... :D

  63. [63] 
    Michale wrote:

    Joe Biden has betrayed blue-collar America
    His policies have fuelled inflation and pummelled working-class people.

    Working-class Americans are unhappy about where the country is headed and it isn’t hard to see why.

    In June, it was revealed that inflation had soared to 9.1 per cent – a level not seen since the early 1980s. Prices have increased across a range of goods and services and this has not been limited to essentials like gasoline (up 61 per cent) or groceries (up 12 per cent).

    While everyone is affected by higher prices, working-class people are hit disproportionately. The costs to fill up a car with gasoline, or put food on the table, take up a higher share of workers’ incomes than the upper classes’ incomes. Americans’ average real (that is, after inflation) weekly earnings fell 4.4 per cent over the past 12 months. As the Wall Street Journal puts it, workers ‘are suffering the largest reduction in real wages since the 1970s’.

    A CNBC survey shows that President Biden’s economic approval rating has dropped to its lowest level yet, well below Trump’s and Obama’s lowest ratings. Only 12 per cent believe he is helping to combat inflation. ‘Scranton Joe’ likes to portray himself as in tune with blue-collar Americans, but there’s no sense that he recognises their financial struggles at all.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/22/joe-biden-has-betrayed-blue-collar-america/

    How man clues do ya'all need to realize how completely and utterly shitty Democrats are at governance???

    Anyone gonna field that???

    Of course not.. No one here can argue the FACTS...

    Silence Gives Assent
    -Democrats

  64. [64] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nolte: Despite January 6 Kangaroo Court, Donald Trump Beats Joe Biden in 7 of 10 Rematch Polls

    Despite the media and Democrats teaming up with their dangerous and fascist January 6 Kangaroo Court, Donald Trump still beats Joe Biden in seven of the ten latest polls looking at a potential rematch.

    In 2020, in the national popular vote, Biden beat Trump (allegedly) by 4.5 points or 51.4 percent to 46.9 percent.

    At that time, the RealClearPolitics (RCP) average of national polls had Biden beating Trump by 7.2 points or 51.2 percent to 44 percent.

    Put another way, RealClear’s 2020 national vote average was off by just 2.7 points.

    Of note is the fact that the RealClear average almost perfectly guessed Biden’s final (alleged) vote total — a 51.4 percent final total to the 51.2 percent polling average. But Trump’s final vote total was underestimated by almost three points: 46.9 percent of the final vote total to the 44 percent poll average.

    What I’m trying to show here is how accurate the RCP average is and how the Trump vote-share ended up being the lion’s share of where the pollsters were off.

    So.

    With that in mind, here’s what a 2024 Trump/Biden rematch looks like per the RCP average…. 44.5 percent for Trump v. 42.5 percent for Biden. Trump is up by two points. What’s more, he beats Biden in seven of the last ten most recent polls.

    Of the eight most recent 2024 rematch polls, Trump defeats Slow Joe in all but one of them.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/22/nolte-despite-january-6-kangaroo-court-donald-trump-beats-joe-biden-in-7-of-10-rematch-polls/

    No matter how ya'all want to spin it. Biden's Handlers is a luser and President Trump prevails.. :D

    The facts are clear.. :D

  65. [65] 
    Michale wrote:

    At a time when very little if anything is “normal” about American politics, we have come to expect the unexpected. While the House looks very, very likely to flip into Republican hands and the Senate more likely than not, what kind of event might keep at least one if not both chambers in Democratic control?

    Democrats fervently hope that the reversal of Roe v. Wade, gun legislation, and the findings of the Jan. 6 committee (or some combination thereof) might galvanize their voters enough to retain at least one chamber. But data suggests that even a combination of all three is unlikely to be the antidote for their problems.
    -Charlie Cook

    You people really need to come to grips with reality...

    Democrats are going to lose and lose BIG in November..

    And that's a GOOD thing..

    Because whenever Democrats lose, America wins... :D

  66. [66] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ya'all see??

    While Vick and Russ concentrate on NOTHING but personal attacks, I provide FACTS that they simply cannot refute... :D Hence their reliance on complete and utter bullshit personal attacks.. :D

    The Democrats’ green war on the working class
    The obsession with climate change is hammering the poor and driving voters to the right.

    Last week, a joint survey by the New York Times and Siena College found that the Democrats are in deep trouble with some crucial voting blocs that had once been their mainstays. For the first time, Democrats now have a larger share of support among white college graduates than among non-white voters.

    As some of us have been pointing out ad nauseam, we don’t have a political, partisan divide in the US. We have a class divide that separates college-educated elites from the working class. And the left has become almost completely aligned with those college-educated elites.

    How did this happen? Turn on CNN or MSNBC or open the New York Times and you’ll be told that the fault lies with the Democrats’ messaging. ‘Why do Democrats suck at messaging?’, asks Vanity Fair. ‘Do Democrats have a messaging problem?’, asks the New York Times. ‘Yes, Democratic messaging sucks. But it’s harder to fix than you think’, the New Republic explains.

    But the real problem isn’t the Democrats’ messaging – it’s their priorities. In fact, their messaging is actually impeccable. It signals very accurately what their values are and, by extension, who they view as their base.

    As the New York Times put it: ‘The confluence of economic problems and resurgent cultural issues has helped turn the emerging class divide in the Democratic coalition into a chasm, as Republicans appear to be making new inroads among non-white and working-class voters – perhaps especially Hispanic voters – who remain more concerned about the economy and inflation than abortion rights and guns.’
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/20/the-democrats-green-war-on-the-working-class/

    This is how REAL patriotic Americans feel about Democrats' and their completely and utterly moronic green agenda...

    You people REALLY need to come to grips with reality...

    Democrats are going to be wiped from the political scene in November...

    The facts that prove this beyond any doubt are as plentiful as they are conclusive... :D

  67. [67] 
    Michale wrote:

    Awwww carp!!!!!

    Reposted for clarity....

    Ya'all see??

    While Vick and Russ concentrate on NOTHING but personal attacks, I provide FACTS that they simply cannot refute... :D Hence their reliance on complete and utter bullshit personal attacks.. :D

    The Democrats’ green war on the working class
    The obsession with climate change is hammering the poor and driving voters to the right.

    Last week, a joint survey by the New York Times and Siena College found that the Democrats are in deep trouble with some crucial voting blocs that had once been their mainstays. For the first time, Democrats now have a larger share of support among white college graduates than among non-white voters.

    As some of us have been pointing out ad nauseam, we don’t have a political, partisan divide in the US. We have a class divide that separates college-educated elites from the working class. And the left has become almost completely aligned with those college-educated elites.

    How did this happen? Turn on CNN or MSNBC or open the New York Times and you’ll be told that the fault lies with the Democrats’ messaging. ‘Why do Democrats suck at messaging?’, asks Vanity Fair. ‘Do Democrats have a messaging problem?’, asks the New York Times. ‘Yes, Democratic messaging sucks. But it’s harder to fix than you think’, the New Republic explains.

    But the real problem isn’t the Democrats’ messaging – it’s their priorities. In fact, their messaging is actually impeccable. It signals very accurately what their values are and, by extension, who they view as their base.

    As the New York Times put it: ‘The confluence of economic problems and resurgent cultural issues has helped turn the emerging class divide in the Democratic coalition into a chasm, as Republicans appear to be making new inroads among non-white and working-class voters – perhaps especially Hispanic voters – who remain more concerned about the economy and inflation than abortion rights and guns.’
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/20/the-democrats-green-war-on-the-working-class/

    This is how REAL patriotic Americans feel about Democrats' and their completely and utterly moronic green agenda...

    You people REALLY need to come to grips with reality...

    Democrats are going to be wiped from the political scene in November...

    The facts that prove this beyond any doubt are as plentiful as they are conclusive... :D

  68. [68] 
    Michale wrote:

    Since JL posted how badly Democrats are wrong about just about everything, let's delve into it a bit more.. :D

    I Was Wrong About Trump Voters

    The worst line I ever wrote as a pundit — yes, I know, it’s a crowded field — was the first line I ever wrote about the man who would become the 45th president: “If by now you don’t find Donald Trump appalling, you’re appalling.”
    This opening salvo, from August 2015, was the first in what would become dozens of columns denouncing Trump as a unique threat to American life, democratic ideals and the world itself. I regret almost nothing of what I said about the man and his close minions. But the broad swipe at his voters caricatured them and blinkered me.
    It also probably did more to help than hinder Trump’s candidacy. Telling voters they are moral ignoramuses is a bad way of getting them to change their minds.

    Ya think??? :D

    This is a lesson that the vast majority of Democrats *STILL* haven't learned..

    Certainly the vast majority of Weigantians REFUSE to learn that lesson.. THAT is for certain.. :D

  69. [69] 
    Michale wrote:

    The worst line I ever wrote as a pundit — yes, I know, it’s a crowded field — was the first line I ever wrote about the man who would become the 45th president: “If by now you don’t find Donald Trump appalling, you’re appalling.”
    This opening salvo, from August 2015, was the first in what would become dozens of columns denouncing Trump as a unique threat to American life, democratic ideals and the world itself. I regret almost nothing of what I said about the man and his close minions. But the broad swipe at his voters caricatured them and blinkered me.
    It also probably did more to help than hinder Trump’s candidacy. Telling voters they are moral ignoramuses is a bad way of getting them to change their minds.

    EXACTLY...

    Democrats are so sure of their being absolutely right that they refuse to even CONCEDE they could be wrong..

    We ALSO see that a lot here in Weigantia... :eyeroll:

  70. [70] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    I can see why you didn't want to explore your link in more depth, Jean Luc... :D

    For every in-your-face MAGA warrior there were plenty of ambivalent Trump supporters, doubtful of his ability and dismayed by his manner, who were willing to take their chances on him because he had the nerve to defy deeply flawed conventional pieties.

    Nor were they impressed by Trump critics who had their own penchant for hypocrisy and outright slander. To this day, precious few anti-Trumpers have been honest with themselves about the elaborate hoax — there’s just no other word for it — that was the Steele dossier and all the bogus allegations, credulously parroted in the mainstream media, that flowed from it.

    This guy could be writing about Weigantian morons!!! :D

    I see Russ in there, I see Vick in there and I see MC in there... And quite a bit of Mezzamomma and Speak2 as well!! :D

    It is EXACTLY this kind of self-examination that Weigantians refuse to even CONSIDER...

    If they would then things would DEFINITELY be a lot nicer here..

    Oh well... We have the Weigantia we have, not the Weigantia we wish we had.... :eyeroll:

  71. [71] 
    Michale wrote:
  72. [72] 
    Michale wrote:

    OMG!!!!!!

    Dangerously high temperatures will last through the weekend with millions of Americans set to experience triple-digit heat
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/21/weather/us-extreme-heat-thursday/index.html

    It's HOT in summer!!!

    HOLY FRAK!!!! WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!!!????

    :eyeroll:

    Democrats and their global warming hysteria is a joke...

  73. [73] 
    Michale wrote:

    NOW let's here from the only OFFICIAL unbiased and objective Weigantian news source..

    Real Clear...

    The Crumbling Foundations of the Fourth Estate

    Skepticism is a bedrock principle of journalism. “If your mother says she loves you, go check it out,” the old adage goes. So is full disclosure (“the more information the better”) and transparency (“Always tell readers how you know what you know”).

    The board that oversees journalism’s most prestigious award, the Pulitzer Prize, and many of America’s most prestigious news outlets violated all three of those values this week.

    As an editor and columnist for news organizations that have challenged that coverage – RealClearInvestigations and RealClearPolitics – I was eager to read those reports to see where their analysis diverged from our own. They were not attached to the statement. When I called the board, I was told that they would not be made public.

    Do I have to explain why this is so wrong? Does anyone even believe that the board members think their refusal to release an analysis of public information is in keeping with the traditions of a profession that celebrates itself for publishing the Pentagon Papers?

    On a more practical level, can anyone believe that reports are being withheld even though they provided persuasive vindications of what the board had described in its prize citation as “deeply sourced, relentlessly reported coverage”? This alleged reckoning smacks of a cover-up.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/07/21/the_crumbling_foundations_of_the_fourth_estate_147925.html#2

    The Leftist News Media's approval rating is very VERY low...

    Matter of fact, the Lamestream Media looks at President Trump's approval ratings with envy because HIS approval rating is so much higher than theirs... :D

    But, of course, Democrats really don't care about things like FACTS..

    They have their delusions and that's all Democrats need..

    And THAT is why they are going to be massacred in November... :D

  74. [74] 
    Michale wrote:

    It gets worse. Articles about the board’s statement published by the Washington Post, the New York Times, and many other news organizations eschewed curiosity, context, and skepticism. Instead, they served as echo chambers. They did not inform readers that the reports, and the identities of those who prepared them, were being kept secret. They did not mention any of the questions that had been raised about the prize-winning coverage or acknowledge the clear evidence that the Russia-Trump collusion storyline has been discredited and revealed to be little more than a hoax manufactured by Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, disseminated throughout the government and regurgitated by a compliant mainstream media.

    Instead, they misled their readers by slapping almost identical headlines on their articles – “Pulitzer board rejects Trump’s challenge to Post, Times Russia stories” (Washington Post), “Pulitzer Board Rejects Trump Request to Toss Out Wins for Russia Coverage” (New York Times) – that suggested the former president was the only person concerned about the coverage.

    This is false. Last November, for example, Aaron Maté wrote a deeply reported article for RealClearInvestigations that identified several significant factual errors as well as “false or misleading claims” in those prize-winning articles and other Russiagate coverage. To take one of the many examples Maté highlighted, the Times reported on Feb. 14, 2017, that “Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.” Four months later, then-FBI Director James B. Comey testified to Congress that “in the main,” the Times report “was not true.” Documents declassified in 2020 show that Peter Strzok, the top FBI counterintelligence agent who opened the Trump-Russia probe, had described the article as “misleading and inaccurate.” Strzok wrote: “We are unaware of ANY Trump advisers engaging in conversations with Russian intelligence officials.” The Times has still not addressed these statements in the online version of the article.

    The Leftist News Media blatantly lies..

    And YA'ALL suck it up and believe every word because ya'all WANT to believe it..

    With a couple of variable exceptions, critical thinking is dead in Weigantia...

    It died the day that President Trump Derangement Syndrome infected the lot of ya'all.. :eyeroll:

  75. [75] 
    Michale wrote:


    END OF WATCH

    Police Officer Anthony Mazurkiewicz
    Rochester Police Department, New York
    End of Watch: Thursday, July 21, 2022


    And remind the few...
    When ill of us they speak..
    That we are all that stands between..
    The monsters and the weak...

  76. [76] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    55

    And BOOM! goes the dynamite!

    T'was but a tiny firecracker.

    God, I love you!

    Beat you to it! Well, technically, you posted it first, but I just now saw it because I always respond as I read and sometimes therefore repeat the exact same things people have already said... and it's usually you and me. :)

    I just realized last night that Michale's threat to falsely report Devon for misconduct to his department makes him Weigantland's own version of Jussie Smollett!!!

    I too have not failed to notice how the board troll does so obviously more closely resemble those to whom he pisses all over and doesn't have a clue nor the equipment to obtain one regarding those whom he professes to be.

    How had I missed the glaring similarities that the two have in common?

    You didn't. We are dot connectors. Somebody's got to do it.

    Now we have to figure out how to properly address him after this realization -- Uncle Jussie? Mussie Smellitt?

    Heh.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    I like your play on his surname, which so perfectly resembles exactly who he is. :)

  77. [77] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh yea... Russ... I meant to ask..

    Do you have *ANY* facts that prove ANY of your personal attacks against me???

    ANY facts at all???

    {{cccchhhhiiiirrrrppppp}}{{ccchhhiiirrrrppppp}}

    Yea... That's what I figgered....

    moron.... :eyeroll:

  78. [78] 
    Michale wrote:

    Jean Luc,

    however, there are a number of areas where i'm subject to convincing. liz definitely is. even CW,

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Now THAT is funny!!!!

    I didn't realize ya had such a hilarious comedy routine.. :D

  79. [79] 
    Kick wrote:

    Michale
    60

    Vick wants another Flame War...

    Incorrect.

    And no one has stepped up to reign her in...

    Somebody step in and help the whining snowflake forum troll who wants the comments section to be a one-sided bitchfest where he posts whatever insults he wishes toward the group and individual commenters and then whines like an effing victim for help if anybody responds in kind.

    ..|..

  80. [80] 
    Michale wrote:

    And once again..

    Vick proves she has absolutely NO FACTS and just relies on personal attacks... :D

    Vick, Vick, Vick....

    You are clueless.. You are not in control here... You never were.... :D

    But it's hilarious to see you flail to and fro for some semblance of relevancy... :D

    You amuse me.. :D

  81. [81] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bill to prevent lawmakers and their spouses from stock trading at standstill as Pelosi faces backlash

    Pelosi recently denied that her husband bought certain stock based on inside information
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-prevent-lawmakers-their-spouses-stock-trading-standstill-pelosi-faces-backlash

    Democrat corruption.. Front and center....

    :eyeroll:

  82. [82] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Oh yea... Russ... I meant to ask..

    Do you have *ANY* facts that prove ANY of your personal attacks against me???

    ANY facts at all???

    By "personal attacks" do you mean when I call out when you are being dishonest in your arguments?

    Or do you mean when I call you out for threatening to file a false report against my husband with the police department he works for because you got your panties in a bind over being caught lying? Kick posted it a few days ago. Do you need to see it posted again?

    You are gonna need to define what "personal attacks" you are accusing me of, because I cannot find any in my posts. What you are referring to as "personal attacks" are just me holding up a mirror and showing you who you truly are. I cannot help what you see in your reflection.

  83. [83] 
    Michale wrote:

    So... In other words..

    NO FACTS whatsoever....

    That's par for the course with you.. :D

  84. [84] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden judicial nominee on board of prison 'abolitionist' group

    Biden nominated Roopali Desai to the 9th Circuit Appeals Court

    One of President Biden’s latest judicial nominees serves on the board of a group that backed calls to defund the police and has called to abolish prisons.

    Biden nominated Roopali Desai, a litigation partner at the law firm Coppersmith Brockelman, to the 9th Circuit Appeals Court bench last month.

    Desai serves on the board of Just Communities Arizona (JCA), a self-described "abolitionist organization" that envisions "a world in which prisons and jails are unnecessary."
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-judicial-nominee-board-prison-abolitionist-group

    There is ya'all's PRO CRIMINAL Democrats at work...

    How ANYONE can support the Democrat Party is just a mystery....

    Ya have to hate America and hate cops..

    THAT is a pre-requisite for being a Democrat...

    :eyeroll:

  85. [85] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yes, Things Are Really As Bad As You've Heard

    A Leftist Schoolteacher Struggles To Say Aloud the Things He Regularly Witnesses That Are So Outlandish They Sound Made Up By Right-Wing Provocateurs

    I spoke with the anon poster below, a public school teacher in a Blue city in a Blue state, and examined correspondence from his colleagues and supervisors that left no doubt that his personal account is authentic. He is indeed the sort of committed left-wing partisan who uses terms like “systems of oppression” unironically and who regards “anti-woke” polemicists as cynical hacks and grifters. He also happens to be witness to absurd school policies justified under the guise of “racial equity” that are doing harm to the very kinds of students on whose ostensible behalf they are being implemented. This is of course a familiar dynamic with all of the policies embraced as part of the ideological succession in schools: they enact a brazen form of neo-racism rooted in a fundamental contempt for the ability of black students to meet the same standards as other students and act as if the gutting of the most basic standards for all students will somehow help black students rather than harm all students — with the harm disproportionately being visited on the very students the policies claim to help. There is something poignant about the dilemma he describes, about being unable to communicate to his fellow leftist peers the awful magnitude of the moral abdication to which he is witness and party precisely because it is so extreme that all will dismiss it as right-wing propaganda. It is a dilemma widely shared across a range of liberal institutions in which conscientious actors see destructive practices being entrenched and immunized against critique by the same dynamics which they find powerless to resist because the specter of right-wing reaction makes any self-criticism impossible.
    https://wesleyyang.substack.com/p/yes-things-are-really-as-bad-as-youve

    Democrats simply should not be allowed within a hundred yards of this nation's children...

    Democrats are SOLELY bent on totally destroying our children...

    JL, after you read this, how can you POSSIBLY support the Democrat Party???

    smhs

  86. [86] 
    Michale wrote:

    1) I once attended a meeting where we brainstormed strategies to increase AP enrollment. When we moved to discuss the gap in enrollment between Black and white students, a senior teacher said that trying to register more children of color for AP classes is inherently racist and that putting greater value on AP classes at all is an expression of white supremacy. To clarify: I don't mean that a senior teacher expressed a complex set of ideas regarding racial justice that could be uncharitably reduced to those claims. I mean I sat in a room where a senior teacher literally spoke the words Trying to register more students of color for AP classes is inherently racist and Putting greater value on AP classes at all is an expression of white supremacy to an audience of other teachers who nodded along or otherwise kept quiet.

    This is an example of Democrat teachers....

    Sad... Sad and utterly pathetic...

    THESE people are taking care of the education of our children!!???

    :eyeroll:

  87. [87] 
    Michale wrote:

    2) I once attended another meeting - lots of meetings when you’re a teacher! - where we were working to approve a new weekly schedule for students. When I said I was concerned that it would require leaving some sections of the curriculum untaught, a colleague said that might actually be a good thing, because most of our students are white and their test scores dropping slightly would help shrink the racial achievement gap in our state. Again, to clarify: I don’t mean my colleague had a a more nuanced approach to testing that a dishonest interlocutor could twist to sound like that. I mean my colleague literally spoke those words. (To be fair, one other teacher did speak up and challenge them this time, albeit very politely.)

    Get that?? Teachers are instructed to coax white students into DOING WORSE IN SCHOOL so that black students can close the "Racial Achievement Gap"...

    The FACT that Democrat educators are using this as a parameter to NOT teach students is abhorrent!!!

  88. [88] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, do those two anecdotes, no matter how explicitly I describe them, sound like something out of James Lindsay's fever dreams? Yes! Are these things that did, in fact, happen? Also yes! And I just don't know how to get both of those facts across to the fairly large segment of the American population who believes it could only ever be one or the other. (Honestly, if I were more conspiratorial, I would think progressives were engineering this dynamic on purpose; in reality, I think they just organically stumbled on a level of craziness perfectly calibrated to make their critics seem like loons. Lucky them!)

    Like I said before, I’m a leftist myself; I have a real and abiding commitment to racial justice in education,. Do I like having to make the same points as pundits who want me kicked out of the classroom too? Of course not. But it's precisely because I think racism and poverty are so rampant in this nation, and our obligation to respond so overwhelming, that I can’t keep pretending these ridiculous DEI schemes aren’t hurting the children we owe so much to. They are. It’s happening, right now.

    How ANY real teacher can support the Democrat Party when crap like this is the NORM and not the exception???

    Well, that's just as crazy as COPS who support the Democrat Party...

  89. [89] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ironically, the institutional racism they accuse their apostates of achieving has been accomplished by these self-styled social justice warriors who identify as generally "Progressive."

    Despite being the most pernicious kind of racism in modern times, it is often known as "the gentle bigotry of low expectations."

    It appears to have sympathy and empathy, at least to people of low morals and even lower intelligence.

    When highly educated white people in public forums say the following about minorities.....

    Working hard is white supremacy.

    Being on time is white supremacy.

    Expecting minorities to have facility with science and mathematics is white supremacy.

    It is impossible to overcome adversity through hard work and sacrifice and to expect a minority to do that is white supremacy.

    Performance standards in academics advances white supremacy, and it is unreasonable and racist to have these expectations of minorities.

    ..... it's simply impossible to differentiate these Democrat talking points from the talking points of the KKK...

    Unsurprising, since the Democrat Party CREATED the KKK...

    From ANY rational perspective, there are very few more bigoted acts than A>flatten groups of people to a monolith and ascribe to them these types of considerations and B>deprive these same groups of personal agency and deny them the opportunity for personal achievement even in the face of overwhelming adversity.

    We require policies that treat people as individuals, not as categories, give our children extraordinary chances for personal growth, and value and honor tenacity and perseverance if we are to succeed as individuals, communities, and a country. Lowering these standards and lowering the standard of education for children encourages (at best!) mediocrity and jeopardizes our collective prosperity in the now and the future.

    This INSIDE THE MIND OF A DEMOCRAT TEACHER perspective about the lunacy that has subjugated our education system is very eye-opening, albeit not surprising given recent history revelations of Democrat educator malfeasance and ideological indoctrination..

    The onus is on all of us to remain watchful against this perfidy and to elect leaders at all levels who reject this attitude and its attendant policies if we are to protect the welfare of our children and our nation.

  90. [90] 
    Michale wrote:

    Awww right.. My lovely wife is back home with me so we're gonna finish up BOSCH LEGACY.. :D

    I'll check back in the morning and see the summary of that LAUGHABLE exercise in Cardassian jurisprudence that is the 6JC....

    "Yunno what?? It IS funny.. It's a hoot..."
    -Tony Stark

    :D

    MC... it's safe now.. I am leaving... You can come out of hiding..

    BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    "Hasta Lasagna Don't Get Any Onya.."
    -Emilio Estevez, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE

  91. [91] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    82

    By "personal attacks" do you mean when I call out when you are being dishonest in your arguments?

    Or do you mean when I call you out for threatening to file a false report against my husband with the police department he works for because you got your panties in a bind over being caught lying?

    That whining victim routine of his sure does seem to rear its ugly head whenever the facts contained in his own comments reveal him to be more of a Jussie (whom he resembles yet vilifies) and not remotely a Reacher (whom he fantasizes himself to be).

    Kick posted it a few days ago. Do you need to see it posted again?

    But it's a new day, Russ, and some people can't remember things from day to day and therefore are doomed to suffer the laughable affliction of posting the same shit over and over as if it's a novel concept and isn't the boring as hell regurgitated excrement it actually is... lather, rinse, repeat.

    You are gonna need to define what "personal attacks" you are accusing me of, because I cannot find any in my posts.

    It's obvious that he's confusing "personal attacks" with "personal facts."

    What you are referring to as "personal attacks" are just me holding up a mirror and showing you who you truly are.

    Exactly! He's a liar and a Jussie.

    I cannot help what you see in your reflection.

    And we here in Weigantia all know when it is that he's seeing his reflection in the mirror because he'll always post something like this:

    "BBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

    When he posts something resembling the above, it always means he is seeing his own reflection; the longer it is, the less clothing you know he is wearing... and try not to throw up in your mouth at the thought of that.

  92. [92] 
    MyVoice wrote:

    [55] ListenWhenYouHear

    I may be a little late to the party, but given all the manure, I'd suggest Biff.

  93. [93] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    MyVoice,

    Ohhhh, that is a pretty image! Spot on!

  94. [94] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    [92]

    Haha, it was worth taking a peek to review any comments that straddled in at the end.

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