Friday Talking Points -- Get Out And Vote!
Some weeks, we pre-empt our own talking points here and just deliver a rant (because sometimes the circumstances seem to almost require it). This week, however, we're going to pre-empt the entire Friday Talking Points column. For some reason, we just don't think handing out awards to Democrats (good and bad) or providing talking points is the important thing, this week. At this point, the Democratic talking points are kind of set in stone; new ones wouldn't do much good with such little time between now and Election Day.
America will head to the polls next Tuesday, and the portents do seem rather ominous. In the early-morning hours, a full eclipse of the moon will be visible coast to coast -- or a "blood moon" as it is sometimes called (because it is going to turn blood-red). Anyone susceptible to superstition and reading omens has got to be a little concerned by that, right?
Perhaps it is Nature's way of ushering in the vaunted "red wave" on Tuesday? And then again, perhaps not. This is where it is mandatory to haul out the old: "The only poll that matters happens on Election Day" saying, of course. The public opinion polling has been all over the place, and perhaps influenced by two big things: how the pollsters undercounted GOP/MAGA voters in 2016 and 2020, and how there have been a lot of Republican-financed polls released in the past two weeks or so (which could have skewed the averages, if their own numbers are too optimistic). The only truth is that nobody really knows what will happen Tuesday night... or Wednesday, or Thursday....
That is one thing which seems almost guaranteed: we won't know the outcome of all the races on Tuesday night. We might not know who is going to control the Senate. Any race which is close is likely to take days to accurately count, and the Republicans are going to be sore losers pretty much anywhere they do lose (especially in close races).
Republicans have done a rather clever thing, because it allows them to complain as a direct result of how they set the situation up. In many states, early votes and mail-in votes are not allowed to be counted before the polls close (some of these laws are new ones, passed after the 2020 election, it should be noted). Mail-in ballots have to be verified, which takes a lot longer than counting the votes cast on Election Day (or in-person during early voting). So there is a built-in lag time. Recent history shows that more Democrats mail in ballots than Republicans, which is why Donald Trump wanted all vote-counting to stop in states like Pennsylvania in 2020, since he was ahead in the early returns. Look for many Republicans in tight races to attempt the same tactic, this time around. This may even be exacerbated by a truly paranoid movement at the grassroots level for Republicans to vote not just in person but at the last possible moment. According to the tinfoil hat brigade, somehow this will disrupt Democratic computer algorithms and prevent the big steal from happening. Whatever -- they can vote whenever they like and it won't make a difference, but a big flood of last-minute votes might delay the counting even more.
Republicans have bought into Trump's Big Lie so much that they now seem to truly believe that any election they don't win was due to Democratic cheating -- and not to "more votes cast against you than for you," which is the reality of the situation. But reality is so passé in our Trumpian times, at least for them.
If they were correct (they aren't) and elections were actually being "stolen" from them (they're not), then it would demand some sort of response. Court cases are just the mildest form of this response, when you get right down to it. Trump sued more than 60 times after the 2020 election, but never produced a single piece of evidence that proved any widespread cheating, so of course all his lawsuits failed. This time around, it will be multiple candidates suing, probably in many states, and it's going to introduce even more confusion and distrust into the American system of counting votes. Which is the end goal for all of this effort, of course. Republicans are fighting a battle not so much in the courtroom but rather out in the arena of public perception. Which is why it is called a Big Lie in the first place -- because if you repeat it enough times, people will start to believe it. Trump lives his life dedicated to this proposition, and now the entire Republican Party is about to follow him down the rabbit hole in a big way.
Legal hissy fits over losing are one thing, but there are many out there who are primed for a much more dangerous response. Violence is now a tangible fear in American elections. The people whose job it is to run elections have been getting death threats since 2020. Droves of them have quit their jobs, which is entirely understandable, what with all the death threats. This has left people in charge who are either inexperienced or understaffed or active election-deniers themselves. That is a recipe for disaster right there.
And it is likely to get worse. There are, by various counts, somewhere around 300 election-deniers running for office across the country. And while the big questions on Tuesday night will revolve around which party controls the House of Representatives and the Senate, the down-ballot races could set the stage for absolute chaos and a constitutional crisis in the 2024 presidential election.
One Republican candidate -- for governor of Wisconsin -- actually blurted the quiet part out loud this week, promising a crowd of supporters: "Republicans will never lose another election in Wisconsin after I'm elected governor." That is exactly what could happen if these candidates for offices like governor and secretary of state in some key swing states actually win. They are openly promising to subvert future elections in the Republicans' favor, no matter what. And as it stands, federal laws are not really strong enough to prevent this constitutional crisis (there is one bill to fix the Electoral Count Act, but it will have to make it out of the lame-duck Congress because the Senate didn't have enough time to vote on it earlier).
No matter what happens with control of Congress, if the state-level elections candidates who are promising guaranteed GOP wins are elected, the stage will be set for the most contentious American presidential election since... well, since the last one, actually. But the last time around, Trump and his legal team (and we do use that term rather loosely) were for the most part completely incompetent in their efforts to steal an election. Next time around, they're all going to be a lot more prepared and they'll have a lot more tools at their disposal -- and a Supreme Court majority that just might let them get away with it.
And even all of that isn't the worst-case scenario. Because now political violence is becoming completely accepted by one of America's two major political parties. So we may not see metaphorical "battles" in courtrooms in the post-election period, we may see actual fighting in the streets. The worst impulses from the fringiest part of the Republican Party are being amplified and encouraged by Republicans from Trump on down. The vicious attack on the speaker of the House's husband might just have been a prelude to worse things to come.
President Joe Biden tried (for the second time) to address this during the week. He gave a short (21-minute) speech on democracy, warning of the growing storm of political violence on the horizons. The entire speech is well worth reading, if you missed it. Biden does not mince words (we wrote about his speech earlier in the week at more length).
The New York Times chimed in with an editorial titled "America Can Have Democracy Or Political Violence. Not Both." This is where we are, as a country.
The Republican Party reacted to Paul Pelosi getting his skull fractured by a man who was deep into right-wing conspiracy theories by either tacitly supporting political violence, spouting baseless and cruel conspiracy theories, or by making jokes about it. And it's all par for Trump's golf course -- this is what he has now trained them to do. Not that they needed much of a push, but now the Republican Party is completely without shame. No behavior or speech is considered too extreme any more. There is no political price to be paid from saying the most revolting or disgusting things to the public. In fact, the base cheers them on when they try to outdo each other's cruelty.
Senator Debbie Dingell of Michigan bluntly warned of where this is all leading: "Somebody is going to die." Democrats have tried calling out Republicans for their either tacit or overt approval of political violence, but as we mentioned, for a party without shame or honor, trying to shame them into changing their ways is virtually pointless. Charging the perpetrators of such violence in court and convicting them isn't all that big a deterrent either, as there will always be more to take their places. It barely even made the news, but the same day Paul Pelosi was attacked, a 22-year-old Pennsylvania man pleaded guilty to issuing death threats to Representative Eric Swalwell. How can this be much of a deterrent when it is barely even noticed -- because worse political violence stole the headlines that day?
Some Republicans are belatedly realizing that they have contributed to this entire situation. There was an extraordinary column written by a Republican strategist in the Washington Post this week -- a man who had orchestrated a "Fire Pelosi" movement back in 2010, complete with a logo of her in flames. He's now come to realize the monster he helped create, writing:
More and more in our politics, the loudest, angriest, most divisive voices get the most attention (and money). Real solutions, and the politicians who put their heads down to do hard work, get short shrift. Collectively, we have to lower the temperature. People keep getting hurt. We're very lucky no one has been killed -- and I worry I need to emphasize "yet."
As a Republican, I know the original sin begins with us. Republicans -- not all, to be sure, but enough -- vilified Barack Obama's most personal attributes. His religion was questioned. Racist cartoons were common. So were jokes about Obama's African heritage ("Kenya hear me," Texas Rep. Louis Gohmert said at a House Republican Conference meeting). Rebukes came, but they weren't loud or frequent enough. The old "not one of us" racist trope remained.
Then along came Donald Trump, whose campaign message was essentially yelling "fire" in a crowded political theater. When Trump urged his supporters to "knock the crap" out of protesters, they obliged, just as extremists have when Trump told them in 2020 to "stand back and stand by." Trump's rhetoric -- years of picking at our every division -- made the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection inevitable.
It should remain an indelible stain on the soul of a party that continues to support Trump, whether out of opportunity or fear.
The nation's police are ramping up for the election. That's not a normal sentence to type -- or it shouldn't be, at any rate. But the news that they are aware of the threat is somewhat relieving, at least. One group in Arizona has already received a court injunction preventing them from being within 75 feet of voting drop boxes, because they -- some of them wearing full military battle gear -- were caught intimidating people, taking photos of people and license plates, and generally acting like thugs. But this sort of thing may happen at actual polling places on Election Day, without much warning. So it's good the cops are at least preparing for the possibility.
When Joe Biden was elected president, he optimistically predicted that "the fever would break" among Republicans. They'd all realize that Donald Trump's style of politics was toxic and they'd reject him en masse and they'd come out of their daze and sit down and help get the nation's work done once again. This, obviously, has not come to pass -- instead, the exact opposite happened.
If the voters elect a Republican House or Senate (or both), politics is going to grind to a halt for two years. Well, there will be one frenzied period, as the lame-duck Congress tries to batten down the hatches to prevent as much chaos and destruction as possible before the Republicans take over. But after that, it's going to be an endless parade of spleen-venting and vitriol, for the next two years. They will overreach in doing so, that much is almost guaranteed. In fact, even though they will indeed overreach, their base is quite likely not going to be satisfied with anything they do -- because the base will be expecting even more extreme actions from them.
This won't bode well for Biden's remaining two years in his first term, of course. His agenda will shrink to whatever he can manage to accomplish through executive orders and other executive actions. If Republicans take both chambers, his veto pen will get a lot of use. Biden's legacy is already pretty secure, though, since he has accomplished more in his first two years than most presidents manage in four. But we'll still be in for two long years of seeing nothing get done in Washington except bickering and airing the most bizarre conspiracy theories imaginable.
The silver lining in all this is that 2024 might get a lot easier for Democrats, after the public is exposed to two years of abject nonsense from a Republican-led House. At some point the swing voters will throw up their hands and decide: "Enough, already!" And two years in the wilderness will force some changes in the party leadership, among Democrats. Nancy Pelosi will likely retire, and if her fellow octogenarian leaders decide to do the same we could get some new blood to lead Democrats back from that wilderness.
Of course, as we said, nothing is written in stone. Getting out and voting is the important message right now. Turnout is expected to be historically high in Tuesday's election, and every registered voter can join in with the effort to make it even higher. Will the pollsters undercount the Republican vote again and we see a big red wave? Or will they undercount Democratic voters resulting in a surprise upset?
It's up to you. It's up to all of you. Don't just make sure you voted, make sure all those you talk to on a regular basis vote too. That's the only talking point that matters right now.
-- Chris Weigant
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Cross-posted at: Democratic Underground
I would say even the last election was pretty mild. 2024 could be like 1876
It doesn't seem to matter much who gets elected, anyways. The big crises affecting humankind are not being addressed no matter who is in power or out of power.
I mean, just take a look around and see what is happening in our world ...
... so, anyone wish to suggest a theme for our sunday night shindig?
I voted Friday morning. There was a mind-numbing list of forty-three different "non-partisan" races for judges of various types and two constitutional amendments. Outrageous. It's depressing to think about how random the results of that are.
Perhaps it is Nature's way of ushering in the vaunted "red wave" on Tuesday?
"Most likely... Bet it's something nice though."
-Ace Ventura
:D
The public opinion polling has been all over the place
I understand why ya'all would like to think this is the case... :D But it really hasn't.. The polls have been pretty consistent with the way things are actually going...
But I understand why Democrats would WANT to believe it's all over the place.. That way they can trick themselves into thinking that "anything can happen" on Tuesday..
But we all know, deep down in our souls, we all know what's going to happen next week.. :D
That is one thing which seems almost guaranteed: we won't know the outcome of all the races on Tuesday night.
I am glad ya put the qualifier in there... Because it's entirely possible, even likely, that the GOP will make such a clean sweep that we WILL know Tues Night who has control of the House (almost definite) and who has control of the Senate (very likely)... :D
Republicans have bought into Trump's Big Lie so much
Just as Democrats have bought into Stacey Abrams' and Hillary Clinton's Big Lie... Your point???
If they were correct (they aren't) and elections were actually being "stolen" from them (they're not), then it would demand some sort of response.
Just as when Democrats claimed that every election Democrats lost were "stolen" from them, it would demand some sort of response..
That's the point that you Democrats simply refuse to accept..
Democrats are no different than Republicans when it comes to screaming about stolen elections.. :^/
Legal hissy fits over losing are one thing,
You mean, like spending 3 years and over 30 million American Taxpayer Dollars simply because Democrats lost??
You mean, like that??? :^/
Violence is now a tangible fear in American elections.
Like armed AntiFa Democrats at polling stations?? You mean like that??
There are, by various counts, somewhere around 300 election-deniers running for office across the country.
And WHO helped those "election deniers" win their primaries..
DEMOCRATS!!! Democrats helped those candidates to win their primaries!!
So, it's ya'all's Democrats OWN FAULT that those are the GOP candidates, eh? :eyeroll:
And what's even MORE embarrassing for Democrats is that those GOP candidates are WINNING!!!
So, when those GOP candidates actually WIN the election, DEMOCRATS will only have themselves to blame!!
DEMOCRATS help elect the VERY GOP'ers that DEMOCRATS attack and denigrate..
HOISTED BY THEIR OWN PICARD
How delicious is THAT irony, eh!!?? :D
Ya'all know that I am totally factually accurate on that point.. :D
Because now political violence is becoming completely accepted by one of America's two major political parties.
Ohh puuulleeezzee
Political violence has been completely accepted by Democrats for the last 22+ years (collectively) of Democrat BLM and AntiFa riots and attacks on hundreds of government buildings all over the country..
NOW yer knickers are in a twist because some drunk serial DUI'er gets a well deserved beat down and there are some actually VERY funny jokes about it!?? :eyeroll:
Anything that keeps serial DUI'er Paul Pelosi OUT of a car and OFF of the streets is a GOOD thing.. :^/
The silver lining in all this is that 2024 might get a lot easier for Democrats, after the public is exposed to two years of abject nonsense from a Republican-led House.
Yea?? Just like 2022 is a LOT easier for Republicans because of the BLATANT incompetence and utter America Hate and Cop Hate of the Democrat Party... Right??? You mean like that??
But yea.. Yer right.. It COULD go that way for the Republicans..
BUT.. You ALSO *could* be wrong... America could regain some of the former glory and competence that Democrats stomped on, shat on and threw away... And that will herald an even BIGGER shellacking of Democrats and pave the way for President Trump's triumphant return to the Oval Office.. :D
"We can't discount the possibility just because we don't happen to like it."
-Martin Sheen, THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
:D
Will the pollsters undercount the Republican vote again and we see a big red wave? Or will they undercount Democratic voters resulting in a surprise upset?
As I said above, I think we all know deep down in our souls, exactly what is going to happen next week.. :D
And I am sure it's going to be a wild ride!!! :D
1/20
Liz,
It doesn't seem to matter much who gets elected, anyways. The big crises affecting humankind are not being addressed no matter who is in power or out of power.
Very good point.. :D
... so, anyone wish to suggest a theme for our sunday night shindig?
Since Democrats are going to need all the humor and laughter they can get, why not an Ode To Al Yankovich... :D
2/20 :D :D :D
The Republican Party reacted to Paul Pelosi getting his skull fractured by a man who was deep into right-wing conspiracy theories
Speaking of Paul Pelosi....
THIS is very interesting...
"Sources familiar with what unfolded in the Pelosi residence now revealing when officers responded to the 'high priority call,' they were seemingly unaware they've been called to the home of the Speaker of the House. After a 'knock and announce,' the front door was opened by Mr. Pelosi. The 82-year-old did not immediately declare an emergency or tried to leave his home but instead began walking several feet back into the foyer toward the assailant and away from police. It's unclear if the 82-year-old was already injured or what his mental state was, say sources.
According to court documents, when the officer asked what was going on, defendant smiled and said 'everything's good' but instantaneously a struggle ensued as police clearly saw David DePape strike Paul Pelosi in the head with a hammer. After tackling the suspect, officers rushed to Mr. Pelosi who was lying in a pool of blood.
We still don't know exactly what unfolded between Mr. Pelosi and the suspect for the 30 minutes they were alone inside that house before police arrive. Officials who are investigating this matter would not go into further details about these new details."
NBC News Reporter Miguel Almaguer
THIS report would seem to indicate that this might have been a pre-planned political stunt..
What's even MORE interesting about this report is that it was pulled from circulation within hours of it being posted and absolutely NO EXPLAINATION, beyond the boiler-plate "Didn't meet NBC NEWS standards", was given by NBC for the story being pulled..
This would be just like Democrats.. Being so desperate to create a phony narrative they concoct this phony "attack"..
Let's look at the facts.. A crazy deranged maniac is in the Pelosi household with a hammer a full HALF HOUR before cops are called...
When the cops arrive, PELOSI answers the door to let the cops in, then PELOSI moves further into the house *closer to the 'assailant'* and THEN "instantaneously" the 'attack' begins...
Does that sound like an actual assault to ANYONE with more than 2 brain cells to rub together??
The *victim* of the 'attack' calmly opens the door, calmly let's the cops in and calmly MOVES CLOSER to the assailant and THEN the 'attack' "instantaneously" happens???
In all my years as a cop, both military and civilian, I have NEVER heard or experienced an assault that went down this way...
And the subject?? A psychotic mess with a history of right wing conspiracy theory spewage.. The PERFECT patsy for Democrats to push this political stunt.....
And, keep in mind, this report comes from Democrat Water Carrier extraordinaire NBC NEWS...
This is gonna be the big story this weekend and in the days leading up to the election.. :D
There is an old saying..
To err is human...
To really screw things up requires a computer..
To mangle and frak up beyond all recognition??
All ya need is a Democrat.. :D
3/20 :D :D :D
The public opinion polling has been all over the place
Interesting to note...
Cooks Political Report, a decidedly DEMOCRAT polling house, has moved over a dozen races from the LEAN DEMOCRAT to TOSS UP and TOSS UP to LEAN REPUBLICAN... :D
It's clear that the momentum for the election is ALL going the GOP's way... :D
It just shows ta go ya...
Hate and Fear Mongering do NOT win elections.. :D
There is nothing like competence and good leadership to get the American people on yer side..
And Democrats have shown NOTHING at all in the competence and good leadership categories... :D
The problem for Biden and Democrats is they have ONLY served the people who are going to vote Democrat regardless... Biden and the Democrats not only actively ignored the Americans who actually DECIDE elections (Independents/NPAs like me) Biden and the Democrats actively SHAT on the Americans who decide elections..
And THAT is why those of us Americans are voting overwhelmingly Republican...
Great job, Democrats.. :eyeroll:
4/20 :D :D :D
This would be just like Democrats.. Being so desperate to create a phony narrative they concoct this phony "attack"..
Let's look at the facts.. A crazy deranged maniac is in the Pelosi household with a hammer a full HALF HOUR before cops are called...
When the cops arrive, PELOSI answers the door to let the cops in, then PELOSI moves further into the house *closer to the 'assailant'* and THEN "instantaneously" the 'attack' begins...
Does that sound like an actual assault to ANYONE with more than 2 brain cells to rub together??
The *victim* of the 'attack' calmly opens the door, calmly let's the cops in and calmly MOVES CLOSER to the assailant and THEN the 'attack' "instantaneously" happens???
In all my years as a cop, both military and civilian, I have NEVER heard or experienced an assault that went down this way...
What's VERY interesting is that the Capital Police Camera footage and the LEO's Body Cam footage would clear up any and all discrepancies..
But, for some strange reason, neither agency is willing to release the cam footage to the public...
Things that make ya go... 'hmmmmmmm'.... :^/
"Gee!! I wonder why that is!!???"
-Kevin Spacey, THE NEGOTIATOR
And, if ya'all are going to simply dismiss the serial DUI'er beatdown con as a Democrat "unfounded conspiracy theory", keep in mind one thing.. :D
Lab-Leak Covid was a Democrat "unfounded conspiracy theory".... Until it wasn't... :D
Hunter Biden's laptop was a Democrat "unfounded conspiracy theory".... Until it wasn't...
Democrats always seem to try and extenuate and pooh-pooh things that are detrimental to Democrats.. Which simply EMPHAZIS them when it turns out to be NOT a Democrat "unfounded conspiracy theory" but an actual point of fact..
Simply one more way that Democrats always stomp on their wee-wees... With metal cleats.. :D
6/20 :D :D :D
Michale,
Democrats always seem to try and extenuate and pooh-pooh things that are detrimental to Democrats..
That is certainly the case with regard to how they have handled the Fetterman situation.
My point? Republicans and Democrats fail to be truthful with the American people, a lot of the time. So, how do you all feel about being lied to, from both sides of the aisle?
Michale,
Perhaps humour through music would be a good theme for AFTER the midterms. Ahem.
That is certainly the case with regard to how they have handled the Fetterman situation.
Total 1000% Unequivocal AGREEMENT, Ms Miller.. :D
My point? Republicans and Democrats fail to be truthful with the American people, a lot of the time. So, how do you all feel about being lied to, from both sides of the aisle?
For me, personally?? I always look at WHY?
"The cause was sufficient"
-Surak Of Vulcan
Lying in and of itself is not a bad thing.. Sometimes, a lie serves a very honorable purpose..
Lying is a tool... Only how it is used determines whether it is good or evil..
Wouldn't you agree??
Perhaps humour through music would be a good theme for AFTER the midterms. Ahem.
Troo... SOMEONE is gonna need some humor after the midterms, eh?? :D
Nice ta chat with you again.. We do so little of that these days, eh? :D
7/20
}}}Republicans have bought into Trump's Big Lie so much{{{
Just as Democrats have bought into Stacey Abrams' and Hillary Clinton's Big Lie...
Looks like Stacey BIG LIE Abrams is already prepping BIG LIE 2022 to go along with BIG LIE 2018... :^/
A matched set.. :^/
Stacey Abrams says she will be Georgia governor if voters can navigate Gov. Kemp’s 'voter suppression'
Abrams said, 'understand that Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger put barriers in place' to suppress Democratic votes
Democratic Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams argued that she will win her election on Tuesday if voters can "navigate" the alleged voter suppression systems installed in her state by her opponent Gov. Brian Kemp, R-Ga.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/stacey-abrams-says-she-will-georgia-governor-voters-can-navigate-gov-kemps-voter-suppression
The problem with Stacey BIG LIE Abrams' claim is that Georgia is having RECORD voter turnout, thanx in part to Georgia's awesome Voter Integrity laws..
Kinda hard to claim "voter suppression" with massive record voter turnout, eh... :eyeroll:
That's the problem with Democrats' claims... They have absolutely NO BASIS in fact or reality...
8/20
From the Washington Post:
NBC News reporter Miguel Almaguer had what seemed like a scoop on Friday about an intruder’s attack last week on Paul Pelosi. The curious new details he presented on the “Today” show quickly went viral on right-wing sites and social media accounts.
One problem: Much of Almaguer’s account was inaccurate, based on flawed information provided by a source who was unnamed in the report, according to people at the network. Those people said Almaguer was incorrect when he reported that the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) gave police no indication he was in danger when he answered the door. In fact, San Francisco police have said that Pelosi was struggling with the intruder, David DePape, when they first saw him.
Sorry to disappoint your desire for some scandalous info on the Pelosi attack.
Kinda hard to claim "voter suppression" with massive record voter turnout, eh... :eyeroll:
No, it isn't. The laws were created to suppress voter turn out. That voters have shown their determination to make the Republican's effort to fail is a great measurement of success for Abrams and other organizers in Georgia. Just because the traitors failed to overturn the 2020 election on Jan 6 doesn't mean that they didn't attempt an insurrection. They did. They failed.
Russ,
Re. the Pelosi attack
I'm wondering why the police didn't shoot anybody as they witnessed the attack.
Any thoughts?
russ,
Sorry to disappoint your desire for some scandalous info on the Pelosi attack.
So, the people are a Left Wing rag said that it was all wrong..
Did they provide any FACTS to support their claims??
Of course, they didn't..
In fact, San Francisco police have said that Pelosi was struggling with the intruder, David DePape, when they first saw him.
Not factually accurate..
Joe Biden's FBI said that the SFPD officers said that.. So, it's hearsay... Nothing more..
It could ALL be cleared up by SFPD and CPD releasing the cam footage of the incident..
Why don't they??
Because they KNOW that the cam footage will PROVE that this was all a setup to influence the election..
And it will all be for naught, because Democrats are STILL going to be wiped out..
And, when the GOP is in power, the cam footage from CPD and SFPD WILL be released..
And THEN we will know the facts..
The laws were created to suppress voter turn out.
Yes, that is your claim. And, as per your norm, you have ZERO facts to back up the claim..
}}}Kinda hard to claim "voter suppression" with massive record voter turnout, eh... :eyeroll:{{{
No, it isn't.
Really??? Explain it, Russ.. Explain who you can have VOTER suppression and STILL have RECORD NUMBERS in voter turnout.. Provide FACTS to support your claim.. If you can..
Liz,
I'm wondering why the police didn't shoot anybody as they witnessed the attack.
Any thoughts?
As the only one here who has actually been a police officer (civilian and military) I can answer that with authority and experience..
In this situation, shooting the subject was unnecessary.. Multiple officers were on scene so it would have been easy to disengage the combatants.. Also, given that the "victim" was in close contact with the "attacker", getting a shot off at the "attacker" without hitting the "victim" would likely have been impossible..
Finally, when Pelosi invited the LEOs into the residence there was no attack going on.. According to the facts, the attack instantaneously began only after the "victim" moved into the residence closer to the "attacker".. In all likelyhood the LEOs simply reacted to stop the "attack". The close proximity to all the parties to the instantaneous attack would not have lend itself to employing deadly force..
Russ,
Explain to me why the subject was in the residence a full 30 minutes before cops were called. What was the serial DUI'er and this alleged crazed attacker doing??
When serial DUI'er opened the door to greet the LEOs, why didn't Pelosi run OUT of the residence and hide behind the protection of the LEO's??? Why did Pelosi move BACK into the residence, closer to the attacker..
Why did the subject talk calmly and nicely to the LEOs and THEN launched the "instantaneous" when he knew that there were several LEOs right there to stop him.. It's almost as if the attacker was WAITING for the cops to show up so that they could stop him before he did any REAL damage to the serial DUI'er "victim"..
For my own thoughts, when I first heard about the incident I was really surprised that Pelosi wasn't hurt more.. I figured he would likely die from a crazy man wailing on him with a hammer for over a half hour. I thought for sure that Pelosi would not survive.. THEN I come to find out that Pelosi only had a few bruised ribs, a broken arm and a slight skull fracture...
When I learned THAT, my cop-sense started tingling, just like it tingled with the Jussie Smollett hoax..
And THEN I read the report from Democrat Media Outlet NBC and then I realized it all made sense..
And this whole thing could be explained in perfect detail if CPD and SFPD would release the Cam footage of the incident..
I mean, com'on.. Every time a cop does his job and shoots a black person, the Cam footage is released in DAYS, oft times in HOURS...
But THIS footage... THIS Cam footage that will show the world what REALLY happened??? THIS footage is being hidden from the public...
There is only ONE reason for CPD and SFPD to NOT release this Cam footage..
Because the CAM footage PROVES this was nothing but a Jussie Smollett-esque hoax.. So Democrats could help manipulate an election..
And what is so hilarious??? Democrats are even failing at THAT!!!! :D :D Because Democrats are STILL going to get Uber Nuclear Biblically Shellacked in 3 days.. :D
1/20
Moderator,
You mentioned a week ago that, after a week, you would revisit the issue and impose new rules as needed..
I am curious as to what you have decided.. I would like to go into the coming week with a clear understanding of what your new rules may entail...
Thank you...
Liz,
Did you decide for a theme tonight?? I still think a Weird Al night would be fun.. :D
Here's a starter... :D
THE NIGHT SANTA WENT CRAZY
2/20
I am going to make my SENATE election predictions..
It's a little more robust that the Real Clear prediction..
RCP SENATE MAP
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/elections-map.html
With the GOP at 45 seats and the DEM at 44 seats, RCP lists 8 toss up races...
AZ: Kelly (D)
CO: Bennet (D)
GA: Warnock (D)
NH: Hassan (D)
NV: Cortez Masto (D)
WA: Murray (D)
PA: Open (R)
WI: Johnson (R)
Of the 8, only 1 is sure to go to the Dems. Colorado will definitely be a DEM win.. So, that puts the DEMS at 45...
But all the others are going to go GOP... I can provide FACTS that support this prediction if anyone doubts the claim...
AZ.. A close race. Due to it's proximity to the border and Lake's awesome to-be win in the gubernatorial, Masters will best Kelly in AZ..
GA.. Again, a bit closer to call, but Walker is a College Football Hero to Georgians and Georgia is a College Football state.. So the win will be to Walker..
NH.. This is also a bit closer to call, but momentum is with Boldic..
NV.. No question that Nevada will go to the GOP. Dems have totally scroo'ed over hispanic Americans and that will decide the Nevada race in the GOP's favor..
WA.. One would think this would have been an easy WA win, but Murray has made some huge stumbles and Tiffany Smiley is young and energetic and is gaining. Even our esteemed moderator says that what is needed in Congress is new, fresh young blood.. And Smiley is all that and Murray is NONE of that.. So, WA to the GOP..
PA.. What can be said about the Pennsylvania race that hasn't been said?? Fetterman doomed his campaign with his debate performance.. Pennsylvania will definitely be a GOP pickup..
WI.. I'll admit that I haven't been following the Wisconsin race all too closely.. So, since RCP calls it for the GOP, I am going to stick with their prediction...
So, 1 Senate seat for the Dems.. 7 Senate seats for the GOP..
Which will mean the next US Senate will be 55 GOP and 45 DEM...
Of course, things could happen between now and Tuesday that renders this prediction moot.. It can happen.. But, all things being equal, if the election were to occur today, that would be the result.. :D
You read it here first.. :D
3/20
[4] Michale
NOW yer knickers are in a twist because some drunk serial DUI'er gets a well deserved beat down and there are some actually VERY funny jokes about it!?? :eyeroll:
Nice to see you mimic our phrases again so you've proven you can actually pay attention... so listen carefully to me now.
You lost your shit on this forum when Kathy Griffin simply had a picture taken with a fake Trump head, and now you're here in the same space and gleefully cheering on violence and attempted murder. Bad form.
Anything that keeps serial DUI'er Paul Pelosi OUT of a car and OFF of the streets is a GOOD thing..
Anything that keeps the unacceptable encouragement of violence and attempted murder off this forum would be an even BETTER thing.
Kick,
Anything that keeps the unacceptable encouragement of violence and attempted murder off this forum would be an even BETTER thing.
You mean like when MC called for the death of all Democrats who did not toe his particular Democrat Party line?
You mean, like that?? :eyeroll:
Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.
:^/
4/20
If weird Al will be included, notable others in the genre ought also be a part, e.g. Alan Sherman, Tom lehrer, dr demento, Moxy fruvous, et cetera.
Michale
21
You mean, like that?? :eyeroll:
I mean exactly what I posted; although, I would wager MtnCaddy will be flattered to be living rent free in your head and also your demonstrable repetitive attempts to become him. *shakes head*
Hypocrisy.. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.
There isn't a single Democrat on this forum who equals yourself in the "programming" department. You've got nothing new to say, and you cannot stop yourself from performing the same troll routine on permanent rerun.
Please don't dominate the rap, Jack
If you've got nothing new to say.
-- Grateful Dead, "New Speedway Boogie"
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2022/10/21/friday-talking-points-student-loan-relief-in-sight/#comment-199595
Because pretty much 90% of your posts are still the same old crap.
Russ,
Really??? Explain it, Russ.. Explain who you can have VOTER suppression and STILL have RECORD NUMBERS in voter turnout.. Provide FACTS to support your claim.. If you can..
Here are some facts for you, Russ..
In Georgia in the here and now, there have been 2,504,956 votes cast... A record...
To give you some perspective, in the entire 2020 election in Georgia?? There were 2,600,000 votes cast TOTAL...
So, in the here and now, Georgians has cast ALMOST as many votes in *EARLY VOTING* than were cast TOTAL in the 2020 election!!!
Now, please... Explain how "Voter Suppression" works in a such a manner as to stimulate RECORD early voting?? RECORD early voting that nearly meets the ENTIRE voting from 2020??
Can you explain that???
Of course you can't...
Face reality, Russ.. You have absolutely *ZERO FACTS* to support claims of voter suppression in Georgia..
ZERO... NONE... NADA... ZILCH...
The ONLY facts that support your BS claims are the facts of your PTDS, your Trump/America hate and your political bigotry..
For the record, there is nothing wrong with being bigoted.. We all have our bigotries.. I myself am bigoted against child molesters, terrorists and people who support Cop Hate and America Hate policies and politicians..
So, don't take the fact that I call you a bigot as an insult.. It's not.. It's simply a fact of life that to be human is to have bigotries..
Kick,
You lost your shit on this forum when Kathy Griffin simply had a picture taken with a fake Trump head,
Not factually accurate..
I was rationally and legitimately concerned about the impact of Griffen's BS hate-filled, bigoted-filled stunt on an 11 yr old child..
Now, I know.. I get it.. Democrats don't care about children at all.. Weigantians (NEN) care even LESS about children..
But normal, rational and patriotic Americans such as myself DO care about children and how Democrat Cop Hate and Trump/America hate and their BS policies that have actively HURT this nations' children...
The facts that support this are as plentiful as they are conclusive..
5/20 :D :D :D
Michale
17
Another diatribe containing multiple responses to multiple posts in order to "weasel" your way around the 20-comment rule.
Grow up.
Kick,
Because pretty much 90% of your posts
BBBWWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So, even when my comments have dropped from 200 per day to less than TEN per day....
You STILL claim I am "dominating"!!???
BBBBWWAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Once again, the FACTS come out... As before, it's YA'ALL who have control over whether or not I "dominate" here..
The moderator has gone above and beyond to give ya'all what you CLAIM you wanted..
Ya'all CLAIMED ya'all wanted a forum that didn't have 200+ Michale comments..
The moderator did his due diligence and GAVE ya'all exactly what ya'all claimed you wanted..
And ya'all STILL bitch about it... :eyeroll:
Maybe you should look in a mirror and see exactly WHY I am "dominating" still in Weigantia..
I am "dominating" still because *ALL OF YOU* are allowing me to dominate...
The moderator has gone above and beyond to do HIS part to lower my comment count..
Maybe ya'all should quit yer incessant whining and complaining and do YER part, eh??
I'm just sayin.... :eyeroll:
6/20
[23]
I mean exactly what I posted; although, I would wager MtnCaddy will be flattered to be living rent free in your head and also your demonstrable repetitive attempts to become him. *shakes head*
I'm still in it's head, huh? I scroll through it's spew so I wouldn't know. I guess I should be flattered... after all not everyone can be an honorably discharged Army Vet.
Kick,
Another diatribe containing multiple responses to multiple posts in order to "weasel" your way around the 20-comment rule.
Explain something to everyone, can you??
How EXACTLY am I "weasel"ing my way around the 20-comment rule when my comments barely reach 15... 10 comments per day...
How EXACTLY does that work???
BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Face reality, Kick.. You simply want me gone.. You can't hang with the facts or reality and you want me gone.. But yer too lazy and too ignorant to do it yourself so you want the moderator to do the work for you...
You whined and cried about my 200 comments per day and you whine and cry about my barely 10 comments per day..
You see the pattern??
The problem isn't me here..
The problem is you and your complete and utter failure to compete on ANY intellectual level in rational discussion and debate..
Thank you for proving THAT fact to everyone beyond ANY doubt.. :D
7/20 :D :D :D
MC,
after all not everyone can be an honorably discharged Army Vet.
Which you prove, what with your dishonorable discharge... Prove me wrong, MC.. Post yer DD-214..
Do you even KNOW what a DD-214 is??? Tell me, MC.. Have you ever seen the elephant?? Of course you haven't.. You couldn't be trusted with a weapon...
:eyeroll:
I on the other hand, am a veteran of TWO branches of the US Armed Forces.. I was a cop (81152-A) in the US Air Force and an MI (35F) Lieutenant in the US Army during Desert Storm.
And I have TWO Honorable Discharges to prove it..
What do you have??? A drug-addled brain and a hefty drug addiction.. :^/
Sucks to be you...
8/20
@m,
I for one am pleased with your current output. Responding to everyone in the same post is how you're SUPPOSED to do it, so we don't all have to scroll through seventy-three of them to get to a real conversation.
So what say you: tenacious d? Garfunkel and Oates? Christine Lavín?
I for one am pleased with your current output. Responding to everyone in the same post is how you're SUPPOSED to do it, so we don't all have to scroll through seventy-three of them to get to a real conversation.
Thank you, Jean Luc.. Yes, that is EXACTLY how things are done here in Weigantia...
So what say you: tenacious d? Garfunkel and Oates? Christine Lavín?
Who??? Who??? Who??? :D
I hesitate to make a big thing out of a suggestion, on the chance that I can't make it..
Whatever ya and the Warden Of Weigantia decides is fine with me... :D
9/20
Michale
24
Another post combining responses in order to "weasel" your way around the 20-comment rule.
Not factually accurate..
Deny your disgust all you want. I have yet to see Obama being hung in effigy and set on fire draw any condemnation from you, and he obviously had multiple children too.
I was rationally and legitimately concerned about the impact of Griffen's BS hate-filled, bigoted-filled stunt on an 11 yr old child..
Although demonstrably not too concerned about children in order to stop your own gleeful cheering of Paul Pelosi's attempted murder in order to stop yourself from fomenting and encouraging the very real violence that occurred to a grandfather that has multiple grandchildren and who was attacked and could have been killed.
Now, I know.. I get it.. Democrats don't care about children at all.. Weigantians (NEN) care even LESS about children..
Lies, lies, lies and boring. Your rouine never varies, and I thank you for proving my point.
You are the only commenter here spewing the same boring bullshit and actually encouraging physical violence against people, and if you honestly thought Kathy Griffin's fake pictures were hurtful and damaging towards children, then you'd naturally go out of your way not to encourage the very real violence and attempted murder that was perpetrated on a real person that his grandchildren and entire family are having to deal with while you laugh it up and encourage more of the same.
nypoet22
30
Responding to everyone in the same post is how you're SUPPOSED to do it, so we don't all have to scroll through seventy-three of them to get to a real conversation.
You seriously think combining the responses to multiple commenters into the same long post and mushing all the comments together in order to bypass the 20-comment rule met with the spirit of what CW requested?
Then you're simply not thinking.
I suppose I could post a Barenaked Ladies tune or two ...
Michale,
I'm with Joshua ... I like the way Michale is responding to several comments in one post. This is PRECISELY how we used to do it, back in the day, when all was right with the world...er, with Weigantia, at least. :)
Kick,
Another post combining responses in order to "weasel" your way around the 20-comment rule.
That reminds me of someone who can't take yes for an answer. Ahem.
Besides, Michale has actually been staying well under the '20 comment rule', more often than not, no? Perhaps some sincere encouragement is in order ...
Kick,
in order to bypass the 20-comment rule met with the spirit of what CW requested?
You still have yet to explain how I can be "bypassing" the 20-comment rule when my comments barely reach 10 a day...
Then you're simply not thinking.
:eyeroll:
Liz,
I'm with Joshua ... I like the way Michale is responding to several comments in one post. This is PRECISELY how we used to do it, back in the day, when all was right with the world...er, with Weigantia, at least. :)
Thank you, Liz.... Yes, that is indeed how we used to do things around here... I am glad we can get back to some semblance of the old days.. : D
I suppose I could post a Barenaked Ladies tune or two ...
Allow me..
:D
BARE NAKED LADIES- One Week
Interesting factoid about that video.. They used replica's of vintage STARSKEY & HUTCH and DUKES OF HAZZARD cars, but in a nod to political correctness :^/ they removed the Battle Flag from the roof of General Lee..
10/20
Why can't you just come to the damned party!!!?
Michale,
I would have removed the Battle Flag, too and it wouldn't have had anything to do with political correctness.
Liz,
Besides, Michale has actually been staying well under the '20 comment rule', more often than not, no? Perhaps some sincere encouragement is in order ...
Thank you.. It's nice to know that my efforts HAVE been noticed and ARE appreciated...
Again, thank you... :D
11/20
Yer welcome!
Why can't you just come to the damned party!!!?
Several reasons.. First off, my presence would likely be disruptive and I don't want to spoil yer's and JL's fun..
2nd, ya gotta remember.. My day usually starts at 0300-0400... I am ready to crash by 1900... :D
Finally, we have a new addition to our family.. :D
Meet Sasha :D
It's a chore getting her acclimatized to our feline family members.. :D Plus she's 120 lbs and loves to sleep on the bed with us.. :D
On the other hand, there IS a new season of MANIFEST out so I might be up tonight late enough to make an appearance.. :D
12/20
Michale
28
Explain something to everyone, can you??
I would wager I'd be more successful at explaining anything better than you.
How EXACTLY am I "weasel"ing my way around the 20-comment rule when my comments barely reach 15... 10 comments per day...
So you're saying math actually isn't all that simple for you.
Face reality, Kick.. You simply want me gone..
You do not speak for me... or Russ... EVER.
I can keep repeating that fact until it attaches itself to a brain cell.
You can't hang with the facts or reality and you want me gone.. But yer too lazy and too ignorant to do it yourself so you want the moderator to do the work for you...
Wouldn't it be the living embodiment of "too lazy" and "too ignorant" for someone to disregard some simple instructions set by said "moderator" in favor of blaming someone else for their own pathetic actions?
It isn't me being "too lazy" and "too ignorant" to follow the moderator's "penalty box" rules nor accusing the moderator of working to bring change to his own forum for a single commenter; check your mirror for that guy.
You whined and cried about my 200 comments per day and you whine and cry about my barely 10 comments per day..
I think you have confused me with the moderator. Maybe you're just "too lazy" and "too ignorant" to connect the dots.
You see the pattern??
You must mean the "lazy" and "ignorance" of you blaming someone/anyone else for your own actions.
The problem isn't me here..
So you're saying the moderator is a liar?
The problem is you and your complete and utter failure to compete on ANY intellectual level in rational discussion and debate..
The prattling you post here isn't "debate." It is generally a cut-and-paste article from Fox News Entertainment bullshit that nobody except you cares about that is followed by your repetitive and asinine trolling that rarely varies... exactly why you were thrown into the "penalty box" and given some rules.
Playing the victim and blaming me or the "moderator" or anyone else on this forum for your own behavior is not only typical... it's effing hysterical.
Elizabeth Miller
35
I'm with Joshua ... I like the way Michale is responding to several comments in one post.
You think the 20-comment rule was promulgated by CW with the idea that Michale would smush several comments into a single post in order to bypass the number and even after CW mentioned on several occasions regarding the length of his posts? I don't. Maybe I'm wrong. Agree to disagree.
I promise you there isn't another single commenter here who isn't aware that you and JL would cheer on Michale, but I'm also not totally clueless that he isn't exactly following the spirit of the rules.
This is PRECISELY how we used to do it, back in the day, when all was right with the world...er, with Weigantia, at least. :)
Said the poster who has admonished Michale on more than one occasion for including a response to her with that of someone else.
You mustn't forget I have no memory issues.
Said the poster who has admonished Michale on more than one occasion for including a response to her with that of someone else.
WHAT!?
Michale,
What if get things started early, like around 19:00? Would you at least make an appearance?
Michale,
Sasha is one fine looking canine! And, one that I suspect will be the veritable handful. 'Cause, girls just want to have fun! Heh.
What if get things started early, like around 19:00? Would you at least make an appearance?
Yep, I can be here for that.. At least an appearance. :D
Maybe we can get clarification from CW as to whether the Weigantian Music Fest does or does not count against my daily count...
13/20
Ain't we got fun? No appreciable difference, but the hall monitors are giddy!
Even Kick said it shouldn't count!
Why is DeathSantis so sanctimonious?
Sasha is one fine looking canine!
Yes, she is.. She was a day away from euthanasia.. We saw her online on Saturday and drove down to rescue her Saturday evening.....
And, one that I suspect will be the veritable handful. 'Cause, girls just want to have fun! Heh.
That they are... And that they do.. :D
14/20
JFC,
Ain't we got fun? No appreciable difference, but the hall monitors are giddy!
Said the board party animal.
That was a little joke. :-)
Elizabeth Miller
36
That reminds me of someone who can't take yes for an answer. Ahem.
Opinions are like Canadians.
Besides, Michale has actually been staying well under the '20 comment rule', more often than not, no? Perhaps some sincere encouragement is in order ...
We have you to pat him on the back for that.
Now broaden your horizons and get him to follow the sentiments of the other rules at [21] and [28]:
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2022/10/28/friday-talking-points-election-fears/#comment-200041
If he insists that "silence gives assent" then it should be no great mystery to anyone on this forum why I nor anyone else with an opinion won't remain silent.
Kick,
If he insists that "silence gives assent" then it should be no great mystery to anyone on this forum why I nor anyone else with an opinion won't remain silent.
'Silence gives assent' is a ridiculous meme. You really shouldn't believe everything Michale says, you know.
Hehehehehehehehehe
You really shouldn't believe anything it says.
Michale,
Maybe we can get clarification from CW as to whether the Weigantian Music Fest does or does not count against my daily count...
Even Kick said it shouldn't count when I said it should. I have come around to her way of thinking on this. :)
JFC,
You really shouldn't believe anything it says.
I know you know how to have fun. I've seen it!
Liz,
'Silence gives assent' is a ridiculous meme.
I am reminded of both Joe Biden and CW who have, in the last week or so, made the claim of "Silence Is Complicity." and "Condoning By Silence" respectively....
Personally, I completely agree with you... Such a concept IS ridiculous.. But it's ridiculous no matter WHICH side of the political aisle uses it..
I'm just sayin'... :D
But, in the interests of Weigantian amity, I'll refrain from belaboring the point... :D
Even Kick said it shouldn't count when I said it should. I have come around to her way of thinking on this. :)
Far be it from me to belay such an universe-shattering consensus.. :D
JL,
I believe you had a movie request in yer queue.... :D Did ya'all get to it yet?? :D It's definitely a great Election Night movie to watch.. :D
15/20
Far be it from me to belay such an universe-shattering consensus.. :D
Ha!
I'm gonna re-watch The Candidate. :)
... just as soon as the election coverage begins. Heh.
... election night coverage, that is ...
Liz,
The Independent
2022
Brian Cox, Ann Dowd, Luke Kirby, John Cena, and Jodie Turner-Smith
A young journalist discovers a conspiracy involving a U.S. Presidential candidate that could change the election and the fate of the country.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3416670/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
You can't go wrong with this movie..
An awesome Election Movie that will knock yer socks off.. :D
16/20
Well, The Candidate is kind of a tradition. But, I will check out The Independent, too.
Michale
42
First off, my presence would likely be disruptive and I don't want to spoil yer's and JL's fun..
Well, now... this is certainly progress, and who am I to remain silent and pretend I don't see it?
Since you obviously know for a fact that you're "disruptive" and "don't want to spoil" the "fun," why can't you allow yourself to apply CW's "penalty box" rules and that 100% dead-on-balls-accurate assessment of yourself to every day of the week rather than reserving it for Sunday night?
At this point, you cannot deign to pretend not to know exactly what you're doing here after you basically just admitted it here in writing.
Kick,
You are correct.. That wasn't exactly factually accurate..
That should be amended to read, "My presence causes other people to be disruptive."
As you yourself have proven several times in this commentary thread alone..
Thank you for pointing out that out.. :D
17/20
John From Censornati
49
No appreciable difference, but the hall monitors are giddy!
Rather predictable, wouldn't you say?
goode trickle predicted it in great detail just two weeks ago.
Michale
67
You are correct..
Yes, I am definitely correct; it's a terminal condition, but I've learned to live with it.
As for yourself, you are now on (archived) written record admitting that you forego Sunday night because you don't want to be disruptive and spoil the fun for other people.
That wasn't exactly factually accurate..
Of course it wasn't, and that's because you only applied it to Sunday night. Now if you could extrapolate that out and see your way clear to applying it on a 24/7/365 basis.
That should be amended to read, "My presence causes other people to be disruptive."
Okay fine. So amended: You are disruptive, and your presence causes disruption. I believe that was the "moderator's" entire reason for placing you into the "penalty box." Nice of you to step up and admit to it, not that it was at all necessary, obviously.
As you yourself have proven several times in this commentary thread alone..
My opinion of you is as dead-on-balls accurate as your opinion of yourself, and that's definitely why I quoted it and did not miss the opportunity to agree with you.
Thank you for pointing out that out.. :D
Thank yourself for pointing "out that out."
John From Censornati
69
goode trickle predicted it in great detail just two weeks ago.
Yes, sir, exactly what I meant... right down to the JL and Liz sentiments.
Explain who you can have VOTER suppression and STILL have RECORD NUMBERS in voter turnout.. Provide FACTS to support your claim.. If you can..
Easy. MAGA Republicans are failures. They screw up everything that they attempt. Like Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, and multiple casinos (which is next to impossible to NOT make money running, but Trump still managed to bankrupt), cult members have proven themselves to be as inept as their leader. Just like their failed attempts at insurrection, Republicans' attempts to suppress the Black vote have failed...and failed spectacularly! They failed because Abrams and others in the state worked extremely hard to canvas communities to make sure people had their voter registration info current and knew how to get ballots by mail to avoid the long lines that many voting locations experience on election day.
Republicans also failed because they gave the people lots of reasons to vote against them! Voting against providing medical coverage for servicemembers suffering the effects of burn pits, stripping women and members of the LGBTQ+ community of the right to determine what medical procedures they can seek, and Republicans continued support of traitors who led a violent, but failed, insurrection attempt on January 6 are all reasons the voter suppression laws have failed to keep people from voting.
Is this really beyond your comprehension levels? Do you enjoy looking foolish by making such ignorant arguments that can be refuted and explained away so easily?
Russ,
blaaa blaaaa blaaaaa
So, what you are saying is that the GOP *TRIED* to voter suppress, but they failed at it.. As per your norm, you provide absolutely ZERO facts to support your claim that the GOP even TRIED to voter suppress...
But at least you admit that there was no voter suppression...
OK... That's all I wanted to hear... Your concession that there was no voter suppression...
I accept your concession... :D
BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
18/20
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why the cops didn't shoot when they were actually seeing an attack in action. I mean, they've shot for far less, many times before??
... the Pelosi attack, of course ...
Could it be because no one was weilding a hammer at them? I'm just sayin' ...
wielding ... :)
So, the people are a Left Wing rag said that it was all wrong..
Did they provide any FACTS to support their claims??
Actually, the WAPost was simply reporting on the retraction issued by NBC and the reporter who first put the story out.
Also, look at the charging papers for what the police said occurred. Pelosi was being attacked when police first encountered him.
[74] I already did. Nobody was Black.
@kick,
I read gt's commentary when it was posted. as cynical hyperbole it works, but it isn't strictly true. CW set the rules, and m has followed them. gt would have been mistaken and I wouldn't have commented at all, except that you have been criticizing a specific practice i consider helpful, namely mushing a bunch of responses into the same post so they don't spill out into endless diatribes.
JL
JFC,
Yes, yes you did and I believe that is the correct answer. I just wanted to hear what Russ's thoughts are on the subject.
For the record, there is nothing wrong with being bigoted.. We all have our bigotries.. I myself am bigoted against child molesters, terrorists and people who support Cop Hate and America Hate policies and politicians..
So you are a bigot? A proud and out loud bigot? It's not my birthday, but thank you for such a wonderful gift... bigot boy! But first, let's look at the definition of "bigot" before we go any further, mmmkay?
BIGOT
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
Hatred towards child molesters and terrorists (like your MAGA crowd on Jan. 6) would not be considered "unreasonable". In fact, your disdain for these folks could easily be deemed as justified and/or "reasonable". But I agree that the hatred YOU constantly demonstrate on here is unreasonable and that you clearly are (as you so proudly proclaimed) a BIGOT!
You know it's bad when someone is trying to reclaim and change how a word like "bigot" or "racist" is defined and viewed! You realize that the words fit you, but instead of changing your views, you want everyone else to change how they define and feel about the words that describe you.
Side note: "virtuous cycle" is a real thing, opposite of vicious cycle.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/virtuous%20circle
nypoet22
80
I read gt's commentary when it was posted. as cynical hyperbole it works, but it isn't strictly true.
Hyperbole or not, he nailed down perfectly the reactions of you and EM... at least so far.
CW set the rules, and m has followed them.
Your opinion is patently false in regards to particular aspects of the promulgated rules, and no amount of your posting otherwise is going to change that fact.
gt would have been mistaken and I wouldn't have commented at all, except that you have been criticizing a specific practice i consider helpful, namely mushing a bunch of responses into the same post so they don't spill out into endless diatribes.
If you think CW promulgated the 20-comment rule with the idea that Michale should then thereafter begin the practice of mushing a plethora of responses regarding multiple different subjects to multiple different posters into a single long response and refer to it as one comment, then we can agree to disagree. If you actually read those rules in their entirety and you came away with that belief, then *shrug* you're claiming CW's numerical limitation was an invitation to get creative and increase that specifically promulgated quantity in a way that would render it superfluous.
As for the remainder of those rules not relating to quantity, if you can also read those rules and the commentary within them in their entirety and make the claim that Michale has followed them, then in the immortal words of yourself: "As cynical hyperbole it works, but it isn't strictly true."
ListenWhenYouHear
82
A master class and dead on accurate.
Every word.
Russ,
BIGOT
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
Yes.. Which EXACTLY describes you and your bigoted hatred of President Trump supporters..
So, yes, I am a bigot.. I am prejudiced and antagonistic towards child molesters, terrorists and Trump/America hating Democrats..
As you have proven, you are ALSO a bigot... As you are prejudiced and antagonistic against Trump/America supporters...
The only difference between you and I is that I recognize the reality and human nature.. While you continue to deny the facts and deny reality.. :D
Jean Luc,
I read gt's commentary when it was posted. as cynical hyperbole it works, but it isn't strictly true. CW set the rules, and m has followed them. gt would have been mistaken and I wouldn't have commented at all, except that you have been criticizing a specific practice i consider helpful, namely mushing a bunch of responses into the same post so they don't spill out into endless diatribes.
"I know, right!?"
-Felix, WRECK IT RALPH
:D
19/20
[82]
You have a point. I've been nay saying this whole troll rehabilitation endeavor from the Get go because I've concluded it doesn't care about anything whatsoever except for being paid attention to. I've watched it escalate the outrageousness until it gets someone to bite.
Current parameters suck, Mr. Weigant. They aren't working, so I say,
put it on a word limit/column inch limit per each comment section, period. The moment it hits whatever the limit is -- boom! Done, see ya next time!
Then it can do whatever it wants with it's limit and it won't matter. I'll hope it's one long spew, in fact.
... easier to scroll through yet it'll still offer Kick a limited opportunity to, er, kick it around the block.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why the cops didn't shoot when they were actually seeing an attack in action. I mean, they've shot for far less, many times before??
Biggest reason, because there was probably no clear shot to be taken. Even without video footage to know the positioning of all involved parties, it would be next to impossible for the police to have a clear shot that did not put Paul Pelosi in the line of fire given the physical proximity required for the assault to take place.
I mean, they've shot for far less, many times before??
Police in Canada and in the US are extremely well versed in when they are legally justified to use deadly force. Police are required to use the minimum amount of force necessary to effect the lawful purpose intended. If your actions pose an imminent threat to life of others, then deadly force is the reasonable minimum require to protect life. It's why officers don't try to shoot the kneecap of someone trying to stab you with a knife... there is good chance that won't stop the person from killing you. And let me be very clear, once that threshold of making deadly force the minimum amount of force necessary to stop someone is met, the officers have a duty to stop that person.
So if you have seen officers shoot someone where deadly force was not justified, then I am guessing those folks are no longer officers and are in prison.
Other reason: every officer is different! You seem to want to lump all police into one monolithic brain. THEY do not move and think using one brain, no matter how hard the public wants to lump them all together. We don't fear all doctors when one rapes a patient. We don't call all nurses murderers because one demented nurse "frees" those she was caring for of their suffering. But we judge all police when we disapprove of the actions of one officer.
When you say "they've shot for far less", are you saying that you are aware of the officers responding to the Pelosi home being involved in past police shootings??? Because if not, then THEY have not shot others for far less! Do you see how that is dishonest and not how you would want to be judged?
One point that few people realize is that when deadly force is justified, when that officer chooses to attempt a different way of stopping the imminent threat, they do so at the risk of their own life. They don't want to kill anyone unless they have to...and they will put their own lives at risk to stop the person without killing them. And trust me, this happens far more often than police simply using deadly force when it is reasonable to do so.
Other reason: every officer is different! You seem to want to lump all police into one monolithic brain.
Seriously, Russ? Haven't we been over and over and over on this sillyness too many times already. Why is it so hard to have a discussion without telling me how stupid I appear to be?
Using the wrong word, notwithstanding. Ahem. I meant to tap out silliness.
Liz,
Sorry, I thought I had properly addressed [89] was to you, but I just saw that I didn't use your name. Wanted to make it clear that I wasn't ignoring you. :)
R
Russ,
Biggest reason, because there was probably no clear shot to be taken. Even without video footage to know the positioning of all involved parties, it would be next to impossible for the police to have a clear shot that did not put Paul Pelosi in the line of fire given the physical proximity required for the assault to take place.
I think you are making too many assumptions there ...
Well, you did post my question before your answer, so ... all is good. I could figure it out.
I still think that if the guy doing the attacking was black, and, especially if they were both black, chances are that shots would have been fired.
Liz,
What part of my comment do you consider silly? Are you not lumping all police together with your comment that "they've shot for far less"? By all means, tell me who "THEY" are then!
Should have tapped out Black, my bad.
In the context of my comment, Russ, 'they' mean the many officers over the last many years that I believe have shot people when they shouldn't have.
In future, I'll try to write more clearly.
I still believe that most police officers perform their duties admirably, courageously and in the best interests of serving the public.
I also think that the Pelosi attack was a classic example of a situation when the police might very well have fired a shot, regardless of race.
I'm just surprised that they didn't.
Michale
24
I'm not Russ, but I have been known to speak for him from time to time (with his approval) and I gave him a chance to make you look stupid, and he was much more nice about your easily verifiable incorrect numbers than I'm going to be.
Russ is being nice; however, I don't intend to sit here in silence and let the day go by without calling you out on your patently false information and total bollocks.
In Georgia in the here and now, there have been 2,504,956 votes cast... A record...
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A midterm record. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
To give you some perspective, in the entire 2020 election in Georgia?? There were 2,600,000 votes cast TOTAL...
Incorrect. Not just incorrect but wildly incorrect and total utter asinine bullshit.
If the entire 2020 election in Georgia had consisted of a paltry 2.6 million votes, it is highly likely that Donald Trump would never have had to resort to breaking the law by interfering in the Georgia election in phoning the Georgia Secretary of State and asking him to find "11,780 votes." When more people vote, it favors Democrats, when less people vote it favors Republicans. This is precisely why gerrymandering and targeted voter suppression have been practiced in Georgia unabated.
https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/105369/web.264614/#/summary
There were dang near almost 5,000,000 total votes cast in Georgia in the presidential election in 2020.
In the recount, there were (still) almost 5,000,000 total votes: 4,997,716 a difference of 11,779 votes... hence Trump's attempt to "find" 11,780 nonexistent votes while simultaneously filing a fake certificate with a slate of fake electors to the National Archives.
So, in the here and now, Georgians has cast ALMOST as many votes in *EARLY VOTING* than were cast TOTAL in the 2020 election!!!
Laughably and hysterically incorrect.
Now, please... Explain how "Voter Suppression" works in a such a manner as to stimulate RECORD early voting??
People will generally jump through hoops in order to give you the middle finger if you attempt to deny them to freely exercise their rights. It's called "backfiring," and it isn't exactly rocket science.
RECORD early voting that nearly meets the ENTIRE voting from 2020??
Can you explain that???
The numbers you've posted are bullshit and laughably incorrect. I would wager without hesitation that you read that utter asinine bullshit on the website of Fox News and fell like a rube for it and rushed here to regurgitate it.
Of course you can't...
Of course he can. He's just being a whole lot nicer about your obvious ignorance than I am.
Why do you think that the race would make police respond differently in this situation? You think if Pelosi was black and his attacker white, the police would have shot the 80-something year old home owner?
You do realize that all the statistics that state things like, "per capita, blacks were 7x more likely to experience a use of force against them when they encounter the police than whites" those are not meant to be used as predictions for future police actions, don't you? Those simply state what DID occur, and every case has its own set of facts and details that vary for every person involved. No one is interested in WHY the use of force was justified in the case... and it is assumed to be justified as it isn't being labeled as "excessive force" or "police brutality". People just assume race is the factor that caused the use of force... which is ignorance and deserves ridicule. Again, a "use of force" is one that is justified or else we would call it "excessive force" (I know I am repeating myself, but it needs to be repeated, sadly).
A use of force can be anything from an officer placing their hands on a subject to prevent them from moving to drawing and pointing a gun at the person. Some types of calls require police to respond using force. For instance, if police pull over a car that comes back as stolen, that "occupied stolen" call requires officers to respond with guns drawn regardless of what race, sex, sexual orientation, or age the occupants are.
Example: The pastor of a Black church forgets that the choir director took the choir in the church van to a singing competition and reports the van stolen. And on their way home, the van is pulled over by police because the plates come back as stolen when run. Because there are so many occupants in the van (12 total), there will be 4 officers responding to empty the vehicle and place everyone inside in custody. It's called a "felony stop"... all four officers have their guns drawn and occupants will exit one at a time, hands of their heads, and they will follow the officers instructions so that they can be safely handcuffed and removed from the roadway so that the next occupant can do the same until all are in custody. The choir are safely removed from the van. The police are able to determine that the driver is employed by the church as the choir director. The vehicle owner, the pastor, is contacted and he is horrified to realize his mistake. All parties are safe and able to return to the church without further delay.
Each officer is required to file a report each time they have a use of force during a call (drawing their guns) listing the number of people the force was used with, and the race, age, and sex of those the force was used with, and the reason for the use of force.
That one single call had 4 officers EACH drawing their firearm on the 12 choir members in the occupied stolen van. That means in one call, the police recorded 48 uses of force on Blacks. Completely justified. It was a mistake on the pastor's end, not the police's. But do you see how the stats don't really tell you the whole story? It happened to be a Black church van. It could have just as easily been a White church van and then 12 White choir members would have had use of force reports filed on them.
In fact, race played NO PART IN THE USE OF FORCE! NONE. Yet the police still record the info so people can take the information and use it however they choose to.
It could be that Blacks were 7x more likely to experience a use of force because Blacks were 7x more likely to be stopped on a call that requires a use of force regardless of the subject's race. So we are using race as a factor in statistics compiled from date where race isn't a factor. That doesn't really make any sense.
Elizabeth Miller
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Seriously, Russ?
Russ!? Why are you picking on Russ over practically nothing!?
Haven't we been over and over and over on this sillyness too many times already. Why is it so hard to have a discussion without telling me how stupid I appear to be?
Kindly apply that entire sentiment of yours to the troll you defend, and if you cannot, will not, or outright refuse to see it, then you need never wonder why nobody here should ever take your admonishments seriously.
Seriously.
Okay, all you music lovers and party animals, it's almost time to start having some fun around here! Heh.
Russ,
Why do you think that the race would make police respond differently in this situation? You think if Pelosi was black and his attacker white, the police would have shot the 80-something year old home owner?
No, no, no ... I don't think THAT! I think if the attacker was a Black man, he probably would have been shot by at least one of the officers (or was there only one officer) who witnessed the attack. See, that's the thing that jumps out at me - the police actually witnessed the attack and no one, surprisingly to me, got shot! I mean, did they even pull their guns out? It's just amazing to me ... and, yeah, I take your point about stats.
Now, are you ready to have some fun!
Welcome, everyone to yet another night of fun at the CW Sunday Night Music Festival and Dance Party!
I've been dying to play this one all day long. :-)
I think it fits in nicely with our theme for the evening - humour in music and, of course, it's just a lot of FUN ...
Cindi Lauper - Girls Just Wanna Have F-un
Is anyone buying tickets for the big Power Ball lottery - isn't the jackpot into the billions by now?
Barenaked Ladies - If I Had A Million Dollars
Hi Liz!!! :D
Since I am not sure I am allowed to go over 20 comments, I will use my last comment to make my promised appearance at the CW Sunday Night Music Festival & Dance Party...
This is actually the FIRST time I have actually HIT 20 comments since the rule has been imposed.. :D Didn't think I could do it, did ya'all!!?? :D
Anyways.. Without further ado... My Contribution to the CWSNMF&DP.... :D
WAR- Why Can't We Be Friends...
:D
Ni Ni all.. See ya'all in the AM.. Bright and early.. :D
Michale 20/20 :D :D :D
So, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has some new inductees!
I've been trying to find Dolly Parton singing her new rock tune last night at the ceremony, Rockin', without success, so far. But, here is her version of a rock classic...
Dolly Parton - Stairway To Heaven (Led Zepellin Cover)
Very nice, Michale!
Did Dolly look fantastic or what?
Dolly Parton at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony, November 5, 2022
And, THAT is how you dress for a rock performance, classic or otherwise!!!
Here's a fun tune by a band you may have heard of ...
Nickels and Dimes
"I turned on my boy scout smile; I stood up and gave her my seat. I winked my eye and unzipped my fly and later we went up to her penthouse suite! Oh, we blew those nickels and dimes..."
A great cover here by one of my new favourite bands, Parallel 49 - United We Rock! I suppose you could say that they are Canadian-based but its members now live on both sides of the greatest border in the world.
This really tight band is led by Chris Knowles, multi-instrument musician extraordinaire and features the brilliant vocals of Rod Raslack.
If you're in Atlanta and surrounding environs, you can catch Rod playing at Sugarlands.
Parallel 49 - Rock Candy (Montrose cover) ... their second live gig, ever!!!
Okay, i'm having so much fun tonight i almost cut off my finger,,, be back when the bkeeding stops ... sihg
Who??? Who??? Who??? :D
tenacious d
garfunkel and oates
christine lavin
Alrighty then ... bleeding has stopped, throbbing has mostly subsided and it only hurts when I'm not dancing around the living room.
Five Alarm Funk!
@liz,
sending you all the fancy ketchups.
JL
Joshua,
Did I ever tell ya about the night I drank too much cherry whiskey?
Heh
I don't know any funny music videos like Joshua does but I did discover a new old band again this week. They're British and have a really cool name and, since we're in between our two respective Thanksgiving Days ...
Wishbone Ash - Full Album
I'll end my part of this evening's festivities with a new Bryan Adams/Jim Vallance composition that was meant for Pretty Woman: The Musical but didn't quite make it to the soundtrack.
Thankfully, Bryan recorded it on his latest album release in 2021, So Happy It Hurts ...
I've Been Lookin' For You
Looks like ya had a fun party, Liz.. :D Wish I coulda stayed for more of it..
Anyways, it's a new day... :D
"Today!!!... Is a new day!!"
-Chicken Little
President Joe Biden tried (for the second time) to address this during the week. He gave a short (21-minute) speech on democracy, warning of the growing storm of political violence on the horizons. The entire speech is well worth reading, if you missed it. Biden does not mince words (we wrote about his speech earlier in the week at more length).
The New York Times chimed in with an editorial titled "America Can Have Democracy Or Political Violence. Not Both." This is where we are, as a country.
It's rather ironic when ya think about it..... :D
Biden and the Democrats have been going on and on for the last several weeks about how "Democracy is in trouble" and all other such hysterical fear mongering..
The fact is, Democracy is doing just fine.. As tomorrow's election will prove beyond ANY doubt..
It's DEMOCRATS that are in trouble.. :D
Constitutional defamation: Democrats, not democracy, are in danger this election
Historian Michael Beschloss’s warning on MSNBC — speculating that “our children will be arrested and conceivably killed” if Republicans win control of Congress — summed up the final pitch by President Biden and fellow Democrats ahead of Tuesday’s midterm elections.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3721139-constitutional-defamation-democrats-not-democracy-are-in-danger-this-election/
THAT ^^^^ is what ya'all call rational political discourse??? Com'on man!! That's nothing but HYSTERICAL fact-less and base-less fear mongering...
"If elected to office Republicans are going to arrest and kill your children!!!"
-Democrats
Do Democrats actually BELIEVE this complete and utter fear mongering fact-less drivel!??
Do ya'all!?? I mean, yea.. I DO have a very low opinion of some of ya'all.. But if ya'all ACTUALLY buy into the crap that electing Republicans will result in arrest and death of Democrat children?? Well, apparently my opinion isn't nearly low enough.. :^/
The U.S. Constitution is not an elegant or poetic document, but it has one thing to commend it: It is designed to survive the worst of times and the worst of leaders, and it has done just that.
The Democrats’ democracy-or-death mantra is not just demagoguery. It is defamation of a constitutional system that has proven itself, time and again, to be up to any challenge. Democrats indeed may be in danger in this midterm — but democracy is not.
-Jonathan Turley
Our distinctive Constitutional Republic form of democracy is doing just fine..
It's DEMOCRATS who are in danger in this election..
And Democrats are in danger because of their own stoopidity, their own greed, their own hate and bigotry, their own incompetence and their own blind unquenchable thirst for political power..
And tomorrow, the American people will pass judgement on the Democrat Party..
As it should be...
1/20
YOU SPOT THE FRAUD
Today's fraud being perpetrated on the people of Pennsylvania is Mehmet Oz (looking like a hostage) with Donald Trump hovering behind him:
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John Fetterman easily spots the fraud:
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At least Dr. Fraud didn't congratulate the Phillies who were losing the World Series at the time.
Speaking of fraud...
Fetterman has now come out OPPOSED to abortion...
"I run on Roe v. Wade. I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade."
PA Senate Candidate John Fetterman
John Fetterman celebrates the demise of Roe V Wade... In his own words.. :D
2/20
Michale
124
Speaking of fraud...
I would wager you're going to post one.
Fetterman has now come out OPPOSED to abortion...
Nope. This actually appears to be a question of whether you're a liar or deaf or just regurgitating a fraud.
"I run on Roe v. Wade. I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade."
Incorrect. As anyone who actually listens to it can easily discern, Fetterman clearly says:
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Your posting of false information on this forum that is easily verifiable is becoming a frequent occasion. This one you've puked up is from those liars at "RNC Research."
So the fraud here is yours. Good of you to notify everyone up front that you'd be "speaking of fraud," though.
Incorrect. As anyone who actually listens to it can easily discern, Fetterman clearly says:
Not factually accurate..
Fetterman clearly said "I" not "OZ"..
'I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade': Stroke victim John Fetterman mangles his words yet AGAIN as he appears to say he is against abortion at Senate race rally with Biden and Obama
John Fetterman misspoke at a Saturday rally in Philadelphia, saying he 'celebrated the demise of Roe v. Wade'
The Democratic Senate hopeful was joined on the campaign trail on by Joe Biden and Barack Obama
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11395171/Democrat-hopeful-John-Fetterman-appears-misspeak-saying-celebrates-demise-Roe-v-Wade.html
You only hear what you WANT to hear..
Of course, Fetterman misspoke.. Just as Doc Oz did..
Doc Oz misspoke out of innocuous and irrelevant ignorance of the NFL schedule.
Fetterman misspoke because he has a mental disability that prevents him from forming coherent words from his thoughts...
Which is more relevant to serving as a US Senator??
A mental disability??
Or an ignorance of the NFL game schedule??
:eyeroll:
3/20
Michale
126
Fetterman clearly said "I" not "OZ"..
So you're saying you're deaf.
Okay.
Fetterman is CLEARLY saying:
"I run on Roe v. Wade. I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade."
https://twitter.com/i/status/1589049599754653699
This is fact... This is reality...
4/20
Michale
128
Fetterman is CLEARLY saying:
"I run on Roe v. Wade. I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade."
This is fact... This is reality...
You've already proven beyond doubt you're having hearing issues. There's really no need to double and triple down on this. Maybe you had an ischemic event that affected your auditory processing.
You can keep posting your fraud, and meanwhile I'll post the transcript of exactly what Fetterman said:
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You're welcome.
I won't kick an invalid while he's down, but you might want to get your auditory issue checked out.
None of what changes the FACT that Fetterman said "I run on Roe v. Wade. I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade."
To deny this fact is simply to deny reality..
You can keep posting your fraud, and meanwhile I'll post the transcript of exactly what Fetterman said:
Transcripts can be altered... The video posted tells exactly what Fetterman said for ALL to see/hear...
Further.. Not remembering a specific NFL team is on a BI week is NOT fraud..
Claiming that one is fit to be a US Senator when one is CLEARLY NOT fit...
THAT is fraud...
5/20
Michale
130
None of what changes the FACT that Fetterman said "I run on Roe v. Wade. I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade."
None of "what"? You seem confused as well as deaf.
To deny this fact is simply to deny reality..
Your auditory issues are again duly noted. Not our problem.
Transcripts can be altered... The video posted tells exactly what Fetterman said for ALL to see/hear...
Unless they keep displaying repeatedly that they're deaf and can't hear properly. Maybe you should try turning it up really loud. At this point, you're just embarrassing yourself and highlighting the fact repeatedly that you're aurally deficient.
Further.. Not remembering a specific NFL team is on a BI week is NOT fraud..
It's "bye" week, and you seem to need spoon-feeding on this and help connecting the dots. Not surprising. When you're actually a resident of New Jersey who keeps holding himself out as a "fan" of the Steelers (interchangeably) and Eagles, then you appear to be a colossal "fraud" when you say stupid shit that proves you're not a Steelers fan. An actual fan would obviously know they weren't playing "tomorrow" [Nov 6], while a fraud like Dr. Oz pretending to be a fan would eff it up.
Claiming that one is fit to be a US Senator when one is CLEARLY NOT fit...
I agree that Dr. Oz isn't fit to be a Senator from Pennsylvania since he's obviously a fraud.
Kick,
I just don't understand why CW allows this malignant troll to puke it's shit up on his property.
Kick,
It's very gracious of you to give the troll the benefit of the doubt and assume a hearing deficit rather than point out the FACT that it is a lying ignoramus who disrespects other people's property.
Well, one thing is perfectly clear, certain and factual...
It's NOT the volume of my comments that is the problem here in Weigantia..
It's my presence...
I am Sgt Joe Friday in a college class almost full of Democrat hippies... Liz is Barbara... JL is Carl...
"I've been sitting through this silly mess for a week now. I wanted to see what kind of policeman this man really is. I wanted to wait and see if he would take this nonsense that's been thrown at him, or if he was really interested in remaining in this class--if he'd come back. Well he didn't disappoint me. He's back, he's interested, and he's gonna stay. For the record, I'm a practicing attorney attending this class for the same reason as the rest of you: to learn about human nature. Well, I just took a post-graduate course with this ridiculous display. Now let me spell this out for you people in simple English: This man will be allowed to stay in this class, and complete the semester, and receive a grade in this class commensurate with his ability in this particular subject--or I'm prepared to file charges against you, Professor Grant, on his behalf."
-Carl, DRAGNET
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0565614/?ref_=ttep_ep22
:D
Kick,
I agree that Dr. Oz isn't fit to be a Senator from Pennsylvania since he's obviously a fraud.
And yet, Doc Oz *IS* the next US Senator from Pennsylvania... :D
So, obviously the American people know more than you do.. :D
Which, of course doesn't really say very much.. A slimy toadstool knows more than you do... :D
JFC,
I just don't understand why CW allows this malignant troll to puke it's shit up on his property.
Because, unlike you, CW shows more than a heapin' helpin' of integrity and doesn't ban people just because he doesn't like their facts and opinions..
You could learn something from CW... If you had any semblance of integrity yourself.. Which it's obvious you don't...
6/20
John From Censornati
132
I just don't understand why CW allows this malignant troll to puke it's shit up on his property.
Maybe with all that manure, he figures there must be a horse's ass in there somewhere. ¯\_(^-^)_/¯
Still more questions linger about the alleged Paul Pelosi "assault".
1. How was Pelosi able to call 9-1-1, and why did the assault only happen after police arrived?
It's funny that the alleged "assailant" was with Pelosi for 30 minutes before the cops were actually called.. Why did the "assailant" let Pelosi call 911??
2. How was Pelosi able to open the door for the police while being essentially held hostage?
The "assailant" was kind enough to allow Pelosi to answer the door when the LEOs rang the bell..
3. Why wasn't there a security system with an alarm that went off after the glass broke and the back door was opened at 2 a.m., instantly alerting the police to a break in?
Strange how Pelosi had a state of the art security system that didn't go off and didn't alert the Alarm Response officers...
4. Why won't SFPD and Capital Police release video surveillance and cam footage that will clear up ALL the unanswered questions??
Strange how Democrats demand cam footage at the drop of a dime whenever an LEO arrests a black subject..
But HIDES cam footage that will prove the Pelosi "assault" was nothing but a Jussie Smollett-esque hoax...
I am sure once the GOP takes over the House & Senate, we'll be hearing a LOT more about this supposed "attack"..
7/20
Michale
134
Well, one thing is perfectly clear, certain and factual...
You're a self-absorbed troll who desperately seeks attention and cannot stop himself from posting off-topic horse shit all over another man's blog.
Maybe with all your manure, CW figures there must be a horse's ass in there somewhere. ¯\_(^-^)_/¯
You may continue to obsess over yourself, troll; however, I stopped reading right there.
Kick,
You may continue to obsess over yourself, troll; however, I stopped reading right there.
Says the girl whose 80% of comments are about me, personally.. :D
The facts clearly show that it is YOU obsessing over me. :D
Just like you'll prove with your response to THIS comment.. hehehehehehehehehehe :D
Liz,
What's yer thoughts on the Democrat strategy of helping "unelectable" GOP candidates to win their primaries??
"Unelectable" GOP candidates who are now virtually all slated to actually WIN their elections?? :D
Your thoughts?? :D
8/20
Because, unlike you, CW shows more than a heapin' helpin' of integrity and doesn't ban people just because he doesn't like their facts and opinions..
I laugh every time I hear or read someone using the word “integrity” thanks to South Park. Randy Marsh’s weed farm uses it as its’ name. But to be fair, they pronounce it “‘Tegrity!”
Their facts? This is such a telling statement! What you are really saying is that CW doesn’t ban people just because he doesn’t like their lies and opinions. Because despite what you wish was the truth, there are only THE FACTS… not your facts, not my facts, not their facts, nor it’s facts — and you can bet your bippy that anytime you feel the inclination to put a pronoun before “facts”, what comes next will not be FACTUAL!
Why won't SFPD and Capital Police release video surveillance and cam footage that will clear up ALL the unanswered questions??
That’s easy… they are still investigating the attack. No department releases evidence while there is an active investigation underway. And, no, the video and cam footage will NOT clear up ALL the unanswered questions…because you have no interest in putting this to rest! You’ve shown that to be the case time and time again!
What you are really saying is that CW doesn’t ban people just because he doesn’t like their lies and opinions.
Yes, Russ.. THAT is what I am "REALLY" saying when I said "{CW} doesn't ban people just because he doesn't like their facts and opinions.."
What was your first clue that THAT's what I was "REALLY" saying?? The fact that I specifically said it??
:eyeroll:
No department releases evidence while there is an active investigation underway.
Bullshit.. I can point to DOZENS of politically charged incidents where video footage was released DURING the investigation..
Further, the investigation is over.. The subject has been already been charged.. It's in the hands of the prosecutors now..
The FACT is, if the attack was legitimate, was actually a REAL attack, then that footage would be playing all over the airwaves to show how ugly the GOP'ers are..
It would be a HUGE Democrat Propaganda GOLD MINE!!! So much so that it might have swung the election to the Dems..
If it was a REAL attack, if the cam/surveillance footage actually revealed a REAL attack and not the hoax that it really was, you know and I know that it would be blanketing the airwaves...
The fact that the footage is STILL being hidden proves that the attack was simply another Jussie Smollett Democrat hoax...
You know it... I know it...
And once the GOP take over the House and the Senate, then the American people will know it as well.. :D
9/20
ListenWhenYouHear
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I laugh every time I hear or read someone using the word “integrity” thanks to South Park. Randy Marsh’s weed farm uses it as its’ name. But to be fair, they pronounce it “‘Tegrity!”
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Their facts?
I know, right, Russ!? Like "alternative facts."
This is such a telling statement!
Ternative Facts.
What you are really saying is that CW doesn’t ban people just because he doesn’t like their lies and opinions.
"Lies" definitely works as an alternative to "their" alternative "facts."
Because despite what you wish was the truth, there are only THE FACTS… not your facts, not my facts, not their facts, nor it’s facts — and you can bet your bippy...
Backside, rump, cheeks, derrière, posterior
... that anytime you feel the inclination to put a pronoun before “facts”, what comes next will not be FACTUAL!
It's actually their lies... or just lies in general... but definitely lies.
So, to recap: You're saying that anybody saying "their facts" is just like saying "lies." It's like they're living with their heads jammed high up into their bippies. Now that's what I call a fact.
Michale,
What's yer thoughts on the Democrat strategy of helping "unelectable" GOP candidates to win their primaries??
I think I may have already taken a stance on this - I'm against it and thought it was an asinine strategy from the get-go.
And, I hope those Republicans who received Democratic support to win their primaries also win their actual elections.
The FACT is, if the attack was legitimate, was actually a REAL attack, then that footage would be playing all over the airwaves to show how ugly the GOP'ers are..
No need... your foaming at the mouth and dry humping the air like a dog in heat at the thought of watching an 80-something year old man being struck with a hammer is proof enough of how ugly you are.
Still more questions linger about the alleged Paul Pelosi "assault".
No, there aren't for anyone not sexualizing the encounter for their own enjoyment. It's pretty straight forward. Do you get as excited requesting for police cam videos when they are called to teen suicides, or is it just old men that do it for you?
Sorry, but MAGA's just do not respect the rights of victims of abuse to not have to suffer reliving it over and over in ads. That you weren't invited to see the victim's x-rays is of no concern to anyone. That you want to focus so much energy on this and cannot stop talking about it is beyond disgusting!
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Well, that definitely confirms it. Russ just got it to admit that saying "their facts" is like saying "lies."
Point to Russ.
Hehehehe. You confused it, Russ!
So, to recap:
That's double points to Russ for confusing it with FACTS.
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And, I hope those Republicans who received Democratic support to win their primaries also win their actual elections.
Well, this is nuts. Do you also hope that those Democrats who received Republican support to win their primaries also win their "actual elections"? Because they can't all win, and that dynamic works both ways, you know!?
Maybe you don't know.
Are you equating Republican support for Dems with what the Dems did for some Republicans.
Please, say it ain't so!
I mean, seriously, Kick?
Something must have gotten lost in the translation, or something.
Do I have to Recap it for you? Heh
As long as you don't knee-cap it! Ha!
Sorry ... I seem to get giddy whenever I listen to my new Bryan Adams cd ... So Happy It Hurts ... I just lost a pound or two dancin' around the living room. Whew!
Are we having fun yet?
Didn't think so.
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Are you equating Republican support for Dems with what the Dems did for some Republicans.
You answered my question with another question that confuses the fact that this dynamic works both ways with some kind of ridiculous declaration of "equivalency."
Please, say it ain't so!
I see your straw man fallacy and raise you a thought-terminating cliché.
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Sorry ... I seem to get giddy whenever I listen to my new Bryan Adams cd ... So Happy It Hurts ...
Heh.
I just lost a pound or two dancin' around the living room. Whew!
They're probably not really lost... just hiding out in fridge. ;)
Nope. They're gone forever. Don't have any secrets in the fridge. :)
You really are something else, Kick. Have I told ya that lately?