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Electoral Math -- Harris Enters The Fray

[ Posted Wednesday, August 14th, 2024 – 17:08 UTC ]

A program note is necessary, to begin with here. I almost wasn't going to even bother with the whole "Electoral Math" series this year, because it would have been so depressing to try to cheer President Joe Biden's chances on while watching Trump flip state after state. So up until very recently, I hadn't even started collecting the data or doing the charts or anything.

Of course, that all changed three weeks ago.

So welcome back to our Electoral Math column series again! This marks the fifth presidential election we will have provided this service, I should mention. This year, for obvious reasons, we are only going to track the data from late July onwards. Our charts will begin two days after Joe Biden exited the race, or Tuesday, July 23rd. This was the point where Donald Trump hit his maximum in state-level polling and things looked the grimmest for the Democrats. But, of course, that would all soon begin to turn around....

Because now the race is Vice President Kamala Harris versus Donald Trump, and everything has changed as a result.

But before we get to the data, a few introductory comments are necessary. The last time we did this, back in 2020, we prefaced our introductory column with a long explanation of the shortcomings of polling, and rather than repeat it all here we would just direct you to re-read the first part of that column. In short, polling isn't perfect, but it's really all we've got to go on.

As usual, what we set out to do here is to track the state-by-state polling on a daily basis, so you can see how the political landscape shifts over time. We're still not aware of anyone else who bothers to track the data in such a fashion, but it seems a rather obvious thing to do. As always, we are happy to get all our data from the fantastic Electoral-Vote.com site, which has its own series of graphs and interpretations that are well worth checking out. This site has been consistent over the past five election cycles, and stands as a great resource for poll-watchers.

And due to all the data-entry required for this initial column, we haven't quite gotten all the charts working again for this cycle -- just the basic ones -- so we'll have more interesting stuff for you in further installments. OK, that seems to be enough introduction, so let's get to where the race stood three weeks ago and where it stands now.

Our first chart is a measure of the percent of Electoral Votes (EV) that the two candidates would have if the election were held today and all the polls were perfectly accurate. Kamala Harris's numbers start from the bottom and are in blue, and Donald Trump's numbers start from the top and are in red. Any white space in between are states which are currently tied in the polls. If the blue line is above the 50 percent mark, Harris has the advantage. If Trump's red line is below 50 percent, then he has the advantage.

The last two charts show the relative strength of each candidate's support. Polls which show a 10 point lead or better are considered "Strong," while a gap of between 5 and 10 points is "Weak" and a lead of under 5 points is only "Barely" in their column.

Electoral Math By Percent

[Click on any of theses graphs to see larger-scale versions.]

As you can see, there is a definite sense of momentum, and it's heading in one direction. Trump started with 320 Electoral votes (EV), but that domination has pretty much collapsed now, down to only 235 EV. Harris started at a real disadvantage (remember, the earliest polls on this chart were still measuring Biden's popularity), but has built steadily on it since and is now over the 270 mark. Harris began at only 218 EV, but has now risen to 287 EV -- 17 more than is needed to win. Harris now has 53 percent of the Electoral Votes while Donald Trump only has 44 percent. Trump lost 85 EV in three weeks' time, and Harris picked up 69 of them (with North Carolina's 16 currently tied).

Over the past three weeks, almost all the movement has been towards Harris and away from Trump. In fact, there's only one exception to this. Ohio firmed up for Trump, going from Weak Trump to Strong Trump about two weeks ago. Other than that, it's been bad news for Team Trump and good news for Team Harris.

Harris has seen one state firm up for her (Minnesota, which went from Barely Harris to Weak Harris and will quite likely move to Strong Harris once polls are taken which reflect her new running mate...), one state move into "Tied" territory (North Carolina, from Weak Trump), and a whopping seven flip entirely from Trump to Harris.

That's an astounding amount of movement, in such a short period of time -- but again, it reflects the change from Joe Biden being on the ticket to Kamala Harris more than anything else.

But let's take a deeper look into each candidate's relative levels of support. First up, Trump's chart:

Trump Electoral Math

As previously mentioned, Trump's numbers haven't totally collapsed, but they certainly have crumbled of late. At the start, Trump was riding high -- with 320 EV, which is a full 50 EV above what he would need to win. That's pretty impressive, and that goes for any Republican in a presidential race, these days. But then the Kamala effect began to take hold, and it's been downhill for him ever since. Now Trump is down to only 235 EV -- a loss of 85 Electoral Votes. That's an immense change, in such a short period of time.

However, as stated, he hasn't totally collapsed. Strength in these polls is best measured by "Strong plus Weak," and on that measure Trump's not doing too badly. He started at a whopping 260 EV in these two categories (combined), which is higher than any Republican has ever managed since I started doing these columns in 2008 (with John McCain).

Trump's Strong numbers improved from 100 to 117 EV, with Ohio going Strong for him halfway through. His Weak numbers, however, have declined precipitously. He started off with 160 EV in Weak Trump, but that has now fallen to only 91 EV. That's a dropoff of almost 70 EV, which should be concerning for Team Trump.

In quick succession, Trump saw several states slip out of the Weak Trump category: Pennsylvania (down to Barely Trump and now flipped to Barely Harris), then on the last day in July Trump lost Nevada (flipped all the way to Barely Harris), Arizona (also flipped to Barely Harris), and North Carolina (down to Barely Trump, and then to Tied).

But as mentioned, Trump is still in stronger shape than he was at this point in either 2016 or 2020. The red states are pretty solidly behind him, and that doesn't appear to be as susceptible to change as it was in earlier years. It's the battleground states where Trump is rapidly losing support, but he'll need them to win.

Having said all of that, let's take a look at how Kamala Harris is doing:

Harris Electoral Math

Harris has certainly turned things around in the short time she has had so far. She started at only 218 EV, a whopping 52 EV fewer than is needed to win. But since she became the Democratic presidential candidate, the polls have taken a dramatic turn for the better. This morning a new poll from Arizona was posted which put the state into her column, which now leaves her with 287 EV, well over the 270 EV needed to win.

Here's a wrap-up of the movement towards Harris in the past three weeks: Nevada went from Weak Trump straight to Barely Harris; Wisconsin, Michigan, and (today) Arizona moved from Barely Trump to Tied to Barely Harris; Pennsylvania moved from Weak Trump to Barely Trump to Barely Harris; and both New Hampshire and Maine moved from Barely Trump all the way to Weak Harris.

Breaking things down by category, Harris has not improved any in her Strong category, but this isn't too surprising since there haven't been polls in every state since she took the reins from Biden. She started with 162 EV here and it hasn't changed a bit.

In her Weak category, Harris has seen some improvement. Minnesota was polled during the first week Harris started running, and moved up from the Barely column. This, however, was before Tim Walz was named her running mate, so I fully expect the state to wind up as Strong Harris in the next poll. Harris also picked up both New Hampshire and Maine (which both started as Weak Trump), leaving her with a total of 51 EV in the Weak category.

Harris's "Strong plus Weak" number has improved as a result, going up from 195 EV at the start to 213 EV today. This is a decent showing for this early in the race, but she's still got room for improvement here. Harris currently has six states in the Barely category (Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Virginia), and any of them firming up to Weak would certainly improve her chances. Her Barely numbers have shot up, from only 23 EV to now stand at 74 EV, but she's only winning these states by less than five points each, so they all have to be seen as still at risk for Harris.

 

My Picks

Moving on from just raw polling data, this is the part where my gut feelings enter into the equations. It's easy to get drawn into the polling map and make assumptions, but one thing to always keep in mind is how old the polling data from each state actually is. Check out each state's individual state graphs to see how many polls have been conducted in each state, and how recent they are. Down at the bottom of this column is a section for data, where I list the states which have not seen any recent polling at all, as well.

I do have to admit that since this is the first column in the series, there isn't a ton of data to base guesses on, so a lot of my categorizing this time around will be fairly arbitrary (in other words, feel free to disagree with lots of these picks). Over time, though, as more data comes in, hopefully my gut feelings will align a lot closer to the reality on the ground.

I divide all my picks into "Safe," "Probable," and "Leaning" for each candidate, with a final "Too Close To Call" category at the end. So let's take a look at where things stand.

 

Likely States -- Harris

Safe Harris (16 states, 200 EV)
Since this is the first column, we'll list all the states in each category (in future installments, we might just note which states have recently moved, but the full lists are always available down in the data section at the end).

I started with the states all polling strongly for Harris, all of which seem pretty safe bets: California, Connecticut, Delaware, D.C., Hawai'i, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington. But then I have to add a few more in, which have just not had any recent polling but would almost certainly show strong support for Harris if they were polled: Colorado, New Jersey, and Rhode Island. I am also going to be optimistic and add in Minnesota, since with their governor on the ticket the state seems almost certain to wind up in the Democratic column on Election Day.

Probable Harris (4 states, 26 EV)
Since we've already moved Colorado, Minnesota, New Jersey, and Rhode Island up a notch, there are only three other states which by all rights should be in this category: Maine, New Hampshire, and New Mexico. But I am going to be optimistic and also add Virginia here, since they haven't had been polled after Biden dropped out. I would expect the enthusiasm shown elsewhere will also put Virginia into a safer spot soon, so I am jumping the gun and adding it in to Probable Harris for now. Hopefully, if all of these states are polled in the coming days and weeks, a few of them will also move upward to being considered Safe Harris as well.

 

Likely States -- Trump

Safe Trump (19 states, 123 EV)
There are 15 states where Trump is polling strongly, and they should all be considered safe for him: Alabama, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia, and Wyoming. There are also three more that are polling a bit weaker but should be considered safe bets for Trump as well: Arkansas, Kansas, and Mississippi. And there is one which hasn't been polled since the real start of the race which somehow wound up very weak for Trump but should easily be considered a safe state for him -- Indiana.

Probable Trump (4 states, 66 EV)
These are somewhat arbitrary and heavily reliant on gut feeling, but in the end they'll all likely wind up voting Republican. Alaska and Texas aren't polling as strongly as they really probably should, and while Iowa is indeed polling strongly I have to wonder whether Tim Walz might just eat into Trump's lead in this next-door-to-Minnesota state (I realize I am probably wrong about that, though). And Ohio saw one rather weak poll recently that made me pause, even though it is officially polling very strongly right now, so I included it here too.

 

Tossup States

Lean Harris (3 states, 44 EV)
Speaking of arbitrary, this entire section is nothing more than me throwing darts at a wall right now. There just isn't enough polling data to really tell about any of these, if truth be told. So I just went purely with gut feelings for which state wound up where. There are three states that only very recently flipped to Harris that I feel pretty good about, so I'm going to list them as Lean Harris for the time being: Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. You'll note that these are all the "Big Blue Wall" states, which is probably driving my own optimism.

Lean Trump (1 state, 30 EV)
This should likely be up a category for Trump, but again there are outlier polls showing the race might be closer than anticipated (plus the abortion referendum on their ballot this year), so for now I am going to list Florida as merely Lean Trump.

Too Close To Call (4 states, 49 EV)
And finally the four states where anything could happen. Arizona and Nevada have only recently flipped to Harris, but they could just as easily flip back with another poll. North Carolina just moved to Tied, so again anything could happen there (we'll have to wait for further polling to see). And Georgia is currently in Trump's column, but only by a single point, so it could flip to Harris at any time.

 

Final Tally

Things are very much up in the air right now, since there just hasn't been enough time to build up enough data to indicate true trends. But it is undeniable that the wind is now at Kamala Harris's back and that Trump is on the ropes. Harris has pulled off the monumental feat of entirely turning this election around in an incredibly short period of time, but her hold on the crucial states it will take to win is still pretty tenuous.

Harris has a lead in the Safe and Probable categories, chalking up 226 Electoral Votes from 20 states. But this still leaves her 44 EV short of the total necessary to win. Donald Trump on the other hand only has 189 EV from his Safe and Probable states, but this hinges on a very arbitrary call by me to leave Florida out of his list.

When you add Trump's one Lean state (Florida) back in, he winds up with 219 EV. And again, due to my arbitrary optimism in assigning all the Blue Wall states to Lean Harris, when you add up all her numbers, she winds up with exactly the 270 EV needed to win.

This is still an incredibly close race, folks. Harris has the momentum currently, but anything could happen and neither candidate right now is in what you would call a comfortable position.

 

[Full Data:]
(State electoral votes are in parenthesis following each state's name -- and please note a lot of these have changed since 2020, due to the reallocation of House seats after the Census. Washington D.C. is counted as a state, for a total of 51.)

Kamala Harris Likely Easy Wins -- 20 States -- 226 Electoral Votes:

Safe States -- 16 States -- 200 Electoral Votes
California (54), Colorado (10), Connecticut (7), Delaware (3), Hawai'i (4), Illinois (19), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (11), Minnesota (10), New Jersey (14), New York (28), Oregon (8), Rhode Island (4), Vermont (3), Washington D.C. (3), Washington (12)

Probable States -- 4 States -- 26 Electoral Votes
Maine (4), New Hampshire (4), New Mexico (5), Virginia (13)

 

Donald Trump Likely Easy Wins -- 23 States -- 189 Electoral Votes:

Safe States -- 19 States -- 123 Electoral Votes
Alabama (9), Arkansas (6), Idaho (4), Indiana (11), Kansas (6), Kentucky (8), Louisiana (8), Mississippi (6), Missouri (10), Montana (4), Nebraska (5), North Dakota (3), Oklahoma (7), South Carolina (9), South Dakota (3), Tennessee (11), Utah (6), West Virginia (4), Wyoming (3)

Probable States -- 4 States -- 66 Electoral Votes
Alaska (3), Iowa (6), Ohio (17), Texas (40)

 

Tossup States -- 8 States -- 123 Electoral Votes:

Tossup States Leaning Harris -- 3 States -- 44 Electoral Votes

Michigan (15), Pennsylvania (19), Wisconsin (10)

Tossup States Leaning Trump -- 1 State -- 30 Electoral Votes
Florida (30)

Too Close To Call -- 4 States -- 49 Electoral Votes
Arizona (11), Georgia (16), Nevada (6), North Carolina (16)

 

Polling data gaps:

[Note: during the primaries, Zogby conducted a poll in every state on April 21, with the sole exception of Washington D.C., which has had no polling at all this cycle. But I thought it'd be more useful to keep track here of which states have not been polled since Joe Biden dropped out of the race.]

No polling data with Harris -- 35 States
(States which have not been polled since July 21st, with the dates of their last poll in parenthesis.)

Alabama (4/21), Alaska (4/21), Arkansas (4/21), California (7/2), Colorado (4/21), Connecticut (4/21), Delaware (4/21), Hawai'i (4/21), Idaho (4/21), Illinois (4/21), Indiana (4/21), Iowa (6/14), Kansas (4/21), Kentucky (4/21), Louisiana (4/26), Maryland (6/20), Massachusetts (7/18), Mississippi (4/21), Missouri (6/19), Nebraska (4/25), New Jersey (4/21), New Mexico (6/14), North Dakota (4/21), Oklahoma (4/21), Oregon (4/21), Rhode Island (6/14), South Carolina (4/21), South Dakota (5/13), Tennessee (5/9), Utah (6/7), Vermont (4/21), Virginia (7/15), Washington D.C. (--), West Virginia (4/21), Wyoming (4/21)

 

-- Chris Weigant

 

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28 Comments on “Electoral Math -- Harris Enters The Fray”

  1. [1] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Reedy alrighty this is solid work, Chris! We have to go to war with the polling that we have and I remind y’all that polling this far out has a poor predictive track record. That’s why I’ll always believe that Joe would have beaten trump.

    And again, where is the 2020 loser find the votes that he needs? I don’t see any outreach — it’s only the base he seems to care about.

  2. [2] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @cw,

    I really do hope you're right.

  3. [3] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Haven't we seen this movie before?

  4. [4] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    no, this is new.

  5. [5] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Only in some respects.

  6. [6] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Elizabeth
    3

    News flash — it is not 2016 anymore.

  7. [7] 
    Michale wrote:

    "If a press conference helps her win, she should do it. If not, she shouldn’t do it. It’s just that simple. She has no moral obligation to talk to the press. Tone it down folks."
    -Odumbo's Ambassador To Russia Michael McFaul, 2024

    "People who believe in truth and transparency should not be afraid of the press."
    -Odumbo's Ambassador To Russia Michael McFaul, 2019

    Over 3 weeks without a press conference or taking real on-the-record questions from the press...

    What are Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris and N0-BALLZ Walz afraid of??

  8. [8] 
    dsws wrote:

    I don't think we've seen this one before. It could still turn out to have the same ending, but the dynamics seem pretty different to me.

  9. [9] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    2016 was an upset - Donald had no record of any kind, and Hillary had epic baggage. in 2024 Donald started in pole position, pulled ahead even further when Joe tripped over his dingdong at the debate, then further still after surviving a bullet to the ear.

    now Kamala is the one with no record, trying to beat the odds. not an easy task, but not impossible, and not 2016.

  10. [10] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Cho’mo — aka my favorite baby seal — hasn’t had his widdle feelings hurt so bad that he bugged out prematurely. What a brave cho’mo!

    Hey daughter fucker, Kamala doesn’t owe the media a damned thing and she should continuously demand the media cover Trump’s obvious dementia like they were covering Joe Biden turning 81. No way does Cheetogod get on a debate stage with Kamala.

  11. [11] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Uh...Kamala has no record? Redickulous, she has been in elected office since 2004. More than Obama, Hillary or GWB on their initial runs...

    As to press conferences:

    Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.
    -Napoleon Bonaparte

  12. [12] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    LOL. MAGAT dipshits.

    When will the geriatric orange weirdo answer a reporter's question? Dementia word salad doesn't count. Hannibal Lecter fetish fantasies don't count. Transparent lies about AI and crowd sizes don't count.

    Don't get me wrong. Fat Donny will NEVER answer questions. He can't do what he can't do. He's an ignoramus. Give us more reality TV unreality. Drill baby drill!

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    2016 was an upset - Donald had no record of any kind, and Hillary had epic baggage. in 2024 Donald started in pole position, pulled ahead even further when Joe tripped over his dingdong at the debate, then further still after surviving a bullet to the ear.

    now Kamala is the one with no record, trying to beat the odds. not an easy task, but not impossible, and not 2016.

    Exactly...

    Her only record at the Executive Level is a record of one epic failure after another.

    Her record of trying to ATTAIN the Executive Level was ANOTHER epic failure. She crashed and burn even before a vote was taken...

    Her record PRIOR to being the Token DEI-Hire for Basement Biden was a record of sleeping with married men to get ahead..

    So, while Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris DOES have a record, it's a record of sexual machinations to get ahead and one Executive Level failure after another...

  14. [14] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Low energy senior Fat Donny owes $88 million (plus interest) for raping E Jean Carroll. He specializes in bankruptcy (even casinos!). Luckily, he had a wealthy daddy. Otherwise, he'd be living under the bypass.

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    Harris and Walz interview each other while dodging media, get trashed online: ‘Completely scripted and fake’

    Harris has yet to do sit-down interview, formal press conference 25 days into campaign

    That describes Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris and NO-BALLZ Walz perfectly...

    "Completely scripted and fake"...

  16. [16] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    What is the super-weird orange bottle-blonde 78 year old convicted felon hiding behind the clown make-up and shoulder pads?

    An ugly, obese, super-freaky sexual predator who yearns to "normalize" Ivanka into the lifestyle.

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    Interesting to note...

    YES WE KAM!!!

    Slogan seems to have fallen by the wayside, eh?? :D

    I am guessing that....

    YES WE KILL ALL MEN!!!

    … was not the slogan that Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris and the Demcorats wanted to go with.. :D :D :D

    In any case, let's take a look back on the Left Wingery headlines generated by Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris..

    'NOT A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT: KAMALA HARRIS' OFFICE RIFE WITH DISSENT
    -Politico, Jun 2021

    EXASPERATION AND DYSFUNCTION: INSIDE KAMALA HARRIS' FRUSTRATING START AS VICE PRESIDEDNT
    -CNN, Nov 2023

    IF BIDEN RUNS AGAIN, HE SHOULD PICK A NEW VP
    -Slate, Nov 2022

    THE CASE FOR BIDEN TO DROP KAMALA HARRIS
    -New Yorker, Sep 2023

    I was also perusing the Weigantian archives and found a whole plethora of comments and commentaries on how bad Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris was..

    Far too numerous to list here..

    So, Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris was the worst of the worst according to the Left Wingery Media and Weigantians…

    Until, all of the sudden, Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris became the cat's meow and was the most awesome person who ever lived...

    Which is eerily similar (albeit in reverse) to what happened with President Trump. Prior to Jun of 2015, Donald Trump was loved, honored and revered by Democrats.. Democrats honored Donald Trump several times and even said "Black Americans have no better friend than Donald Trump."

    Hypocrisy. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.

    :eyeroll:

  18. [18] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Republicans once called themselves the family values party.

    Then came the twice divorced "Grab Em By The Pussy" pervert.

    Republicans once called themselves the law and order party.

    Along came the fraud and sexual predator.

    Republicans once hated Russia.

    Traitorous Fat Donny was enough to move them to Team Putin.

    It's almost as if they believe in nothing other than Dear Leader.

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK, let me see if I understand this..

    The Demcorat Party, the Party of "inclusion"...

    Had a JEWISH EXCLUSION ZONE at a major university!!!???

    'So abhorrent': Federal judge rules against UCLA in lawsuit over 'Jew Exclusion Zone'

    The court's injunction is the 1st in the nation against a university for allowing an antisemitic encampment

    A Los Angeles federal district Tuesday ordered the University of California, Los Angeles, to stop allowing and assisting antisemitic agitators to ban Jews from large parts of UCLA’s campus.

    In the wake of the horrifying attack in Israel on Oct. 7, anti-Israel activists on campus set up barricades in the center of campus that blocked access to critical educational infrastructure on campus.

    In a lawsuit filed by Becket Law and co-counsel Clement & Murphy PLLC, the religious liberty firm accused UCLA of "aiding and abetting" an antisemetic culture, including what effectively became a "Jew Exclusion Zone" on campus, "segregating Jewish students and preventing them from accessing the heart of campus."

    What the frak!!!

    No, seriously, WHAT THE FRAK!!!!

    This is your Demcorat Party, people...

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    Harris flip-flops on series of major policies as she dodges questions from reporters for weeks

    Harris does about-face on several far-left policies, distances herself from Biden

    Kamala Harris flip-flops on liberal stances, distances herself from Biden on economy and co-opts Trump 'no tax on tips' promise

    Vice President Harris is doing an about-face on several far-left policies as she distances herself from President Biden and attempts to make a name of her own as the Democratic presidential nominee.

    In her first policy speech in North Carolina later this week and then next week at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Harris plans to present to Americans who she is and how she will govern essentially for the first time since Biden backed out of the race and endorsed her presidential campaign.

    In recent weeks, Harris has shifted on at least five major policy stances: mandatory assault rifle buybacks, fracking, immigration, health care and a federal jobs guarantee.

    If you don't like Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris' position on an issue.. Just wait a few minutes..

    She'll change it :eyeroll:

    Matter of fact, the ONLY policy item that she had mentioned that she HADN'T flip flop'ed on is a policy that she STOLE from President Trump!!!

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris' ONLY good idea she has had to date is an idea that she STOLE from President Trump!!

    How hilarious is THAT!!?? :D :D :D

  21. [21] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    One conversation with a real billionaire and Big Orange will do a 180. Evil electric vehicles and China Tik Tok are A OK after fat cats paid the fat old whore. Flip flop

  22. [22] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Almost as hilarious as you telling your young son that “it’s full of vitamins” to get him to swallow.

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    Oh Look!!!!

    President Trump is having ANOTHER Press Conference!!!

    Trump flips script on Harris' 'duck and hide' media strategy with second press conference in a week

    Harris has said she'll sit for a major interview before the end of the month

    Donald Trump will take questions from reporters Thursday at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, the second straight week that the former president has grabbed headlines by holding a news conference.

    The move is partially to try and blunt the momentum of Vice President Kamala Harris heading into next week's Democratic National Convention. Harris has been riding a wave of energy and enthusiasm since replacing President Biden at the top of the Democrats' 2024 ticket three and a half weeks ago.

    But it also appears to be another move to try and put pressure on Harris for not holding a news conference or a major interview since Biden bowed out and backed his vice president.

    "It has been 24 days and Kamala Harris continues to duck and hide from the media – no interviews and no press conferences since she announced," Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung emphasized on Wednesday.

    As we have seen here in this forum, Trump/America haters are trying to defend Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris by trying to redefine what "press conference" means...

    They are so pathetic and small....

  24. [24] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    . . . says the 78 year old convicted felon lover, pathetic and huge as a walrus flopping around pointlessly trolling for his Loser king.

    Kamala should have to declare Fat Donny's "press conferences" as in kind donations to her campaign.

    LOL. Dipshit turd-breath MAGATs.

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    DNC delegate arrested in protest that left cop critical faces calls to resign from police oversight board

    Keith Rose was arrested in connection with a protest where Ferguson Police Officer Travis Brown was knocked to the pavement and is now fighting for his life

    I simply can't understand how anyone who claims to support cops would vote Demcorat..

    If a political Party claims to stand for something that is so viscerally AGAINST cops....

    That, to me, is simply a deal breaker..

    Put another way. There is simply NO WAY that ANYONE who votes Demcorat is pro-police..

    It's simply not possible..

    Speaking of cops, I am PUMPED!!!!

    I finally got my duty shirts in!!!

    WOOT!!!!

    http://mfccfl.us/911.jpg

    Life is good.. :D

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    Retired police lieutenant says Walz ‘intentionally’ let Minneapolis burn as part of a ‘greater scheme’

    'Let Minneapolis burn': Retired police lieutenant rips Gov Walz for surrendering city to rioters

    John Nagel told Fox News Digital that Minnesota Gov. Walz is 'nowhere near being a moderate'

    MINNEAPOLIS – A retired police lieutenant in Minnesota is pushing back against the narrative that Gov. Tim Walz is a "moderate" and tells Fox News Digital that the governor "intentionally" let Minneapolis burn during the 2020 riots because he "truly doesn’t like police."

    "He is not a moderate, he has never been a moderate and here in Minnesota he has been anti-police, he has raised taxes, he is nowhere near being a moderate," retired Minnesota State Patrol Lt. John Nagel told Fox News Digital.

    "He’s anti-police, defund the police, when you have police families, and we have an officer killed in the line of duty, when that family looks at the governor and says we don't want you at the funeral. That should tell you a great deal of how law enforcement in general feels about Walz."

    Last year, the widow of Pope County Sheriff’s Deputy Josh Owen, who was killed in the line of duty responding to a domestic violence call, told Walz he was not invited to her late husband’s funeral because "he does not support law enforcement," Alpha News reported.

    NO-BALLZ Walz hates cops. Just like all Demcorats..

    Anyone who votes for NO-BALLZ WALZ does not support cops..

    It's that simple...

  27. [27] 
    Michale wrote:

    Biden Snaps at Reporters As Doocy Nails Him With Report Kamala Will Distance Herself From Him on Economy

    Kamala Harris is in a bit of a box.

    She's trying to run for office, acting as though she hasn't been occupying office for the past three-plus years. She acts as though she isn't responsible for the things done in her own administration that she signed aboard. Heck, she was even the deciding vote for the legislation that many believed sparked Bidenflation in 2021, the American Rescue Plan.

    So now Axios is reporting that she is going to try to reboot herself and run away from that record to help herself in the election. But that's going to be hard to do, particularly when President Joe Biden is saying she's not going to do that, as he did during questioning on Thursday.

    Peter Doocy and other reporters managed to get in a few questions as Biden was leaving for Maryland to talk about the economy with Harris. Doocy asked how much "does it bother you" if Harris starts to "distance herself" from him on the economy.

    It's fun watching Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris squirm and try to weasel her way out of Basement Biden's shadow.. :D :D :D

    She keeps making promises "On Day One..." this and "One Day One..." that....

    But here's the funny thing...

    Their "Day One" was over three and a half years ago!!!!

    And what has she accomplished!!???

    Diet Coke that WAS $3.49 under President Trump is $10.59 under Basement Biden and Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris..

    A jar of mayonnaise that was $2.89 under President Trump is $9.99 under Basement Biden and Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris...

    EVERY task that was given to Token DEI-Hire Headboard Harris she failed at..

    EVERY.... TASK....

    She has NO RECORD to run on except Basement Biden's dismal and failure of a record..

    "These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
    -Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

  28. [28] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
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    Haven't we seen this movie before?

    This isn't a movie; it's a multipart series AG Harris v. Felonious Trump.

    Episode 1: The One Where Trump Chooses Poorly
    Episode 2: The One Where Republicans Get Outmaneuvered
    Episode 3: The One Where Trump Has a Meltdown
    Episode 4: The One Where the GOP Gets Hacked
    Episode 5: The One Where Roger Gets Stoned
    Episode 6: The One Where Sofa Loren Gets Dragged

    I could go on, but that would ruin the surprise. :)

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