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A Historic Debate

[ Posted Wednesday, September 11th, 2024 – 16:35 UTC ]

The second presidential debate is over and the reviews are in. They are all pretty universally proclaiming Kamala Harris the clear winner and Donald Trump the loser. Pundits are using words like "eviscerated" and "humiliated" to describe how impressive Harris's takedown of Trump truly was last night. For the first time in his political career, Donald Trump was absolutely dominated -- live, on screen, for all of America to see.

It wasn't even close. Even Fox News had to admit Harris won. The only one insisting that Trump won was Donald Trump, who unexpectedly showed up in the post-debate "spin room" to make this rather laughable boast.

Meanwhile, Kamala Harris addressed her supporters with Taylor Swift playing in the background (more on this in a moment).

Harris did exactly what she needed to do. She drew a contrast between herself (forward-thinking, positive, optimistic, focused on the future) and her opponent (backward-thinking, angry, petulant, doom-and-gloom, focused on himself above all else, all the time). Here is how one debate review column started out:

Donald J. Trump's America is a grim place, a nation awash in marauding immigrants stealing American jobs and eating American cats and dogs, a country devastated economically, humiliated internationally and perched on the cliff's edge of an apocalyptic World War III.

Kamala Harris's America is a weary but hopeful place, a nation fed up with the chaos of the Trump years and sick of all the drama and divisiveness, a country embarrassed by a crooked stuck-in-the-past former president facing prison time and eager for a new generation of leadership.

Sums it up pretty nicely. This is the contrast Harris wanted to project, and Trump played right into her hands, over and over again. Every piece of bait she dangled, he snapped at. In response to her prosecutorial takedown of his history, his presidency, and his character, Trump ranted and raved and just plain lost it. Over and over again. He couldn't help himself, because this is truly who he is. Harris just showcased it for America, in case anyone had forgotten.

For me, there was one absolutely priceless moment. In case anyone's forgotten, while Trump was president he did everything he could to "repeal and replace" the hated Obamacare. But the problem was that he never could come up with any "repeal" plan at all -- Trump just kept promising that he'd put out a plan "soon"... maybe in the next couple of weeks. But as Little Orphan Annie sang, tomorrow's always a day away -- so no plan ever emerged. Which, of course, didn't stop Trump from eternally promising that he'd have one real soon now, and it'd be big and beautiful and cheaper than Obamacare and everyone would love it.

Last night, he was again asked about it. First Trump answered from an alternate reality, where he told the story of how he had actually saved Obamacare. No, really! He actually said that....

Trump then moved on to say what he has always said (from the official ABC transcript of the debate):

And what we will do is we're looking at different plans. If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population less money and be better health care than Obamacare, then I would absolutely do it. But until then I'd run it as good as it can be run.

He was interrupted by one of the moderators, who bluntly asked: "So just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan?" This is where it got absolutely priceless (for me at least). Trump's response:

I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now. But if we come up with something I would only change it if we come up with something better and less expensive. And there are concepts and options we have to do that. And you'll be hearing about it in the not-too-distant future.

In other words: "Tomorrow, tomorrow... I love ya, tomorrow... you're always a day away!"

Donald Trump entered politics nine years ago. One of his big issues from the start was repealing Obamacare, mostly because he hated Barack Obama so much that he wanted to destroy Obama's signature achievement as president. But in all that time -- nine years -- he and the Republicans have never even come close to coming up with a plan for how to replace it. Not even close. Trump's answer reminded America of his own glaring failure to make good on one of his signature campaign issues. And all he had to say about it was exactly the same lie he's been using all along. He has "concepts of a plan." Great. And we'll "be hearing about it in the not-too-distant future." Uh-huh. Sure. Where have I heard that before?

Mind you, this won't be the most-quoted debate clip -- it's just the one that made me roll my eyes the most. There are plenty of other "Did he really just say that?" clips of Trump getting apoplectic and saying all sorts of truly bizarre things. The weirdest of these, easily, came after Harris expertly baited him on the subject he deeply cares about -- the crowd size of his political rallies. Here's the exchange, starting with Harris offering up the bait:

I'm going to actually do something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch. You will see during the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter. He will talk about [how] windmills cause cancer. And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.

After Harris waved this red cape in his face, Trump lunged:

First let me respond as to the rallies. She said people start leaving. People don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go. And the people that do go, she's busing them in and paying them to be there. And then showing them in a different light. So, she can't talk about that. People don't leave my rallies. We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics. That's because people want to take their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation. And it happened three and a half years ago. And what, what's going on here, you're going to end up in World War III, just to go into another subject. What they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country. And look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk -- not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating -- they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame. As far as rallies are concerned, as far -- the reason they go is they like what I say. They want to bring our country back. They want to make America great again. It's a very simple phrase. Make America great again. She's destroying this country. And if she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success. Not only success. We'll end up being Venezuela on steroids.

Hoo boy. That one answer provided multiple soundbites that may have to duke it out for the most memorable clip from last night. And it doesn't even qualify as the most unhinged moment for Trump. There are actually a lot of candidates for that dubious distinction, since Harris so successfully got under Trump's skin, over and over again. She did something that no man or woman has yet managed, and that was to absolutely dominate Trump. It truly was a beautiful thing to behold, from beginning to end.

After it was all said and done, Kamala Harris got the "icing on the cake" moment her team has been hoping for all along: Taylor Swift endorsed Harris on Instagram. Within 30 minutes, the post had racked up over two million "likes." As of this writing, it is nearing 10 million likes. Swift wrote a detailed note, explaining that she wanted to counter Trump's A.I.-generated fake endorsement from her with the truth: "I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election." Just to rub it in (to JD Vance's face, that is), she posted it with a photo of her and one of her cats and signed the note: "Taylor Swift, Childless Cat Lady."

The army of Swifties has now been activated. And a whole lot of them are indeed old enough to vote. Team Harris was quick to respond:

The endorsement was a surprise to the vice president, her advisers and officials who manage celebrity relationships outside the campaign, according to an official who was not authorized to speak about the plans. But within 20 minutes of the endorsement post, the Harris campaign was nodding to Ms. Swift's fans by selling "Harris-Walz friendship bracelets" on its website for $20 -- a campaign aide came up with the idea and officials drew up plans within minutes. By midday Wednesday, the bracelets were sold out.

Harris walked on stage at her post-debate party to Swift's song The Man which bemoans the double-standard women have to constantly face:

I'm so sick of running as fast as I can
Wondering if I'd get there quicker
If I was a man
And I'm so sick of them coming at me again
'Cause if I was a man
Then I'd be the man
I'd be the man
I'd be the man

(The song also has an amazing video, if anyone's interested.)

Although the subject hasn't been as prominent as it was during Hillary Clinton's campaign, Harris does indeed still face a huge double standard. Women politicians have to clear hurdles that simply don't exist for men. Last night, Kamala Harris easily cleared all these hurdles. She looked presidential. She is looking to the future, not the past. She dominated Trump in a way no politician, man or woman, has ever managed to do before. It was truly a virtuoso performance all around.

She even taunted Trump immediately afterwards, calling for a second debate between them. It's a clear measure of who won last night, since Trump is now running scared from the idea of facing her again on a debate stage.

It is rare, during any presidential campaign, that any one debate is all that significant. This year, we got two. The first caused President Joe Biden to exit the race. The second proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Vice President Kamala Harris is not only ready for a promotion but also that Donald Trump can indeed be humiliated on a debate stage. The whole night was not just memorable, but downright historic.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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9 Comments on “A Historic Debate”

  1. [1] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    In response to Kamala and T Swift ganging up on Fat Donny, AKA Vance ran to the Fox Defamation Channel this afternoon and blurted out this gem:

    I don't think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans

    He's not good at this.

  2. [2] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Despite gushing just last week about a phony T Swift endorsement, Short Fingers ran to Fox & Friends this morning and said:

    I actually like Mrs. Mahomes much better, if you want to know the truth. She's a big Trump fan. I was not a Taylor Swift fan.

    That's right. He'd rather have the endorsement of some quarterback's wife whose name he could not recall. I suppose somebody might believe that if he was born yesterday.

  3. [3] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Donold has been working on concepts for plans to avoid attending a second beat down. He's demanding Hannity, Ingraham, and (extra hilariously) Jesse Watters as moderators. It's almost as if he knows that we know that they paid out three quarters of a billion dollars for lying and Harris will never agree!

  4. [4] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    In his desperation, Big Orange ran to the spin room after losing to proclaim his Archie Bunker on meth routine to be the best Archie Bunker on meth routine in the history of the world and probably the universe.

    This pointless weirdness almost certainly freaked out the Secret Service. I suspect that he was a big part of the problem in Butler, PA too. It's a shame that heroes are getting the blame because an incel shot at him and scratched his ear.

  5. [5] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    And the people that do go, she's busing them in and paying them to be there. And then showing them in a different light. So, she can't talk about that.

    Had Trump just said that Harris buses people in and pays them to be at her rallies, that would have been fine. But when he brought up how to show them in different lighting and from different angles, that tells us that Trump is well versed in paying people to attend his rallies!

    What is funny is that the people who are seen leaving his rallies in the middle of them are the ones who he paid to be there in the first place! They were paid for only two hours of work. If Trump refuses to pay them overtime, why would they volunteer their time by staying even a minute longer than what they were paid to be there?

  6. [6] 
    Kick wrote:

    This is where it got absolutely priceless (for me at least). Trump's response:

    I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now.

    LOL. One of my favorite parts too. Trump keeps hysterically claiming that Harris hasn't implemented her plan and has had 3-1/2 years to do so, as if she's actually "president right now." Trump is so terminally ignorant, he seems like he needs being president explained to him. I would wager it was quite a shock to some of his gullible MAGA cult minions that Trump isn't actually "president right now."

    The moderators had the good form to keep asking Trump for answers until he either blurted them out or refused to answer (also very telling depending on the question asked). For instance:

    * Yes or no, health care plan? I (still) got nothing.
    * Yes or no, would you veto a national abortion ban? *crickets*
    * JD Vance said you would veto it, yes or no? We don't really talk.
    * Yes or no, Ukraine should win the war? I am Putin's puppet.

  7. [7] 
    dsws wrote:

    I can't believe I'd never seen "Donold" before. It's] so obvious in retrospect.

  8. [8] 
    dsws wrote:

    This is a bit out-of-nowhere, but here's a question:

    Suppose that a thousand people start businesses. Most of them are pretty smart, all of them put in a bunch of their own money at the beginning, most of them don't get paid much for the first couple years, and all of them work really hard. Is it better to have an economy -- and I mean the whole mess, market structures and tax policies and relevant social norms and regulatory systems and financial institutions, all of it, including a bunch of stuff I haven't thought of -- is it better to have an economy where it's well-nigh inevitable that one of them will become a billionaire, and about 99 will get rich but not billionaire rich, and about another hundred will make a decent living but not get rich, while the other 80% of the businesses go bankrupt and the founders move on to something else? Or is it better to have an economy that makes it well-nigh inevitable that about 80% of these hard-working self-starter types will succeed and make a decent living, and a handful get rich, but none of them becomes a billionaire?

    And whichever possibility is better, why?

  9. [9] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    1

    I don't think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans

    The projection is strong in AKA Vance. This actually reminds me of another time he described Trump:

    He never offers details for how these plans will work, because he can’t. Trump’s promises are the needle in America’s collective vein.... Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it.

    ~ J. D. Vance describing Trump as Opioid of the Masses, July 4, 2016

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/opioid-of-the-masses/489911/

    He's not good at this.

    In his pathetic attempts to disparage others, it seems JD still cannot stop himself from describing Donold to a "T"... as if the real Vance is still in there somewhere, if only he could stop mainlining the "cultural heroin."

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