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Friday Talking Points -- Darkness From The Washington Post

[ Posted Friday, October 25th, 2024 – 17:47 UTC ]

The Washington Post secured its entry into the annals of American political history by taking down a United States president. Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein famously uncovered the entire Watergate scandal, which caused Richard Nixon to resign in disgrace. Award-winning books and movies about the brave reporters followed, portraying them as giants in the world of journalism.

Ah... those were the days, eh?

Fast-forward a bit. A while back, billionaire Jeff Bezos bought the paper. They introduced a new slogan, which they still display right under their name in their banner: "Democracy Dies in Darkness." The implied message was that they were going to be the shining light of truth, fighting valiantly against the forces of darkness trying to overwhelm American democracy.

Today, that light went out. It was purposefully snuffed. The paper ignominiously declared it was not going to endorse a candidate in the upcoming presidential election, which is less than two weeks away. The owner of the paper, Jeff Bezos, made this decision on his own. It was not the publisher (a former employee of Rupert Murdoch), but Bezos himself, who is reportedly concerned about what would happen to all the sweet government contracts his various other businesses have if Donald Trump wins. Here's how the Post itself reported on the bombshell:

An endorsement of [Vice President Kamala] Harris had been drafted by Post editorial page staffers but had yet to be published, according to two sources briefed on the sequence of events who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. The decision to no longer publish presidential endorsements was made by The Post's owner, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. "This was a Washington Post decision to not endorse, and I would refer you to the publisher's statement in full," said Chief Communications Officer Kathy Baird.

"This is cowardice, a moment of darkness that will leave democracy as a casualty. Donald Trump will celebrate this as an invitation to further intimidate The Post's owner, Jeff Bezos (and other media owners)," former Post executive editor Martin Baron, who led the paper while Trump was president, said in a text message to The Post. "History will mark a disturbing chapter of spinelessness at an institution famed for courage."

Baron is right. This is a profile in cowardice, plain and simple. This is what comes from billionaires buying newspapers on a whim. Sooner or later, they just can't resist editorially mucking around with the paper's content. And it's even part of an overall plan, as the article goes on to explain:

Mr. Bezos has told others involved with The Post that he is interested in expanding The Post's audience among conservatives, according to a person familiar with the matter. He has appointed Mr. [Will] Lewis -- a chief executive who previously worked at the Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal -- and has informed Mr. Lewis that he wants more conservative writers on the opinion section, the person said.

It is a sad day in journalism. In fact, we are reminded of the quote: "The only thing that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

One of the opinion writers for the Post, in a fit of brutal honesty (earlier in the week), called out not only his own paper but the entire journalism world for how they have (mostly) all been covering the presidential election:

Something is wrong with this split-screen picture. On one side, former president Donald Trump rants about mass deportations and claims to have stopped "wars with France," after being described by his longest-serving White House chief of staff as a literal fascist. On the other side, commentators debate whether Vice President Kamala Harris performed well enough at a CNN town hall to "close the deal."

Seriously? Much of a double standard here?

Somehow, it is apparently baked into this campaign that Trump is allowed to talk and act like a complete lunatic while Harris has to be perfect in every way. I don't know the answer to the chicken-or-egg question -- whether media coverage is leading public perception or vice versa -- but the disparate treatment is glaring.

This week, it became simply ridiculous.

He then got specific:

Let's review: First, Harris was criticized for not doing enough interviews -- so she did multiple interviews, including with nontraditional media. She was criticized for not doing hostile interviews -- so she went toe to toe with Bret Baier of Fox News. She was criticized as being comfortable only at scripted rallies -- so she did unscripted events, such as the town hall on Wednesday. Along the way, she wiped the floor with Trump during their one televised debate.

Trump, meanwhile, stands before his MAGA crowds and spews nonstop lies, ominous threats, impossible promises and utter gibberish. His rhetoric is dismissed, or looked past, without first being interrogated.

Imagine if Harris were promising to end the war in Gaza on her first day in office but wouldn't say how. Imagine if she were proposing a tariffs-based economic plan that economists say would destabilize the world economy and cost the average family $4,000 a year in higher prices. Imagine if she were promising a "bloody" campaign to uproot and deport millions of undocumented migrants who are gainfully employed and paying taxes. And imagine if Harris were vowing to use the military to go after her political opponents, as Trump repeatedly pledges.

I guess the moral of this story is that Democrats have always been spectacularly bad at "working the refs." Republicans perfected this tactic decades ago, denouncing the "liberal media" for putting their spin on everything. They would loudly and vociferously complain about nit-picky little things, and the newspapers and television networks would respond by attempting to also include the conservative viewpoint more often. Many even overcorrected and presented everything through the conservative lens first, while dismissing the Democratic arguments. This was all long before Trump starting calling every story he didn't personally like "fake news," mind you.

Democrats occasionally do try to push back, but most journalists have largely just thrown up their hands and resorted to "both-sides-ism," content to report: "Well, the Democrats say X, while the Republicans say Y," without ever testing the truth of either proposition. "Ah, but the Republicans insist that the sky is green, and who are we to disagree with their viewpoint? That's for the reader to decide." is mostly what you get nowadays.

In the era of Donald Trump, Republicans have completely gone off the deep end with this tactic. Consider if you will the fact that the two highest-ranking Republicans in Congress, House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, just released a statement denouncing (are you sitting down?) the "irresponsible rhetoric" from Kamala Harris. Maybe they should rewrite all the dictionaries, because this is a whole new definition of the concept of "chutzpah." Here's the story:

Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell asked Vice President Kamala Harris in a rare joint statement to tone down her rhetoric in the lead-up to Election Day, days after Harris said she considered Donald Trump a fascist.

The two top Republicans accused Harris of fanning "the flames beneath a boiling cauldron of political animus" and said her words in recent days "seem to dare it to boil over."

"She must abandon the base and irresponsible rhetoric that endangers both American lives and institutions," Johnson and McConnell said in their statement. "We call on the Vice President to take these threats seriously, stop escalating the threat environment, and help ensure President Trump has the necessary resources to be protected from those threats."

Their statement does not mention Trump's recent rhetoric, in which he's referred to Harris as a "fascist," "marxist," "communist" and "comrade." The former president has also railed against "enemies within" and called for using government resources to prosecute domestic political opponents -- such as California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff and former Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Republicans are beyond shame, at this point. Or self-reflection. Or sanity -- take your pick.

Meanwhile, the election rolls on into its final week. Both candidates are out their campaigning non-stop, although Donald Trump's team keeps cancelling his appearances at scheduled events.

Harris has been appearing with many famous supporters, in an effort to build enthusiasm in her base. Here's just a partial list, from the last week alone, of who has been stumping for her: Barack Obama, Lizzo, Usher, Eminem, Bruce Springsteen, Spike Lee, Samuel L. Jackson, Tyler Perry, James Taylor, Liz Cheney... and tonight she will be rallying in Houston with both Beyoncé and Willie Nelson. Tomorrow, Michelle Obama will make an appearance. That's a pretty star-studded list, you've got to admit (although we do wonder at the absence of Taylor Swift...).

Videos have been appearing as well, whether sanctioned by the Harris campaign or not. Julia Louis-Dreyfus put out a rather "not safe for work" ad about women's rights. It began with: "OK, let's cut to the chase. Donald Trump and his merry band of yes men are obsessed with what we women do with our bodies. They want to reach into our doctors' offices and our bedrooms to control our access to birth control and IVF and, of course, abortion -- even though they wouldn't know a uterus if they had to crawl out of one for a second time," although her closing statement was the one that made it truly hilarious. Pro wrestler and actor Dave Bautista shredded Donald Trump's pretentions of being macho in a brutal video that aired on Jimmy Kimmel's show (which is equally hilarious). Even Joni Mitchell -- not someone who is known for using such language -- repeatedly used the phrase "fuck Donald Trump" during a concert at the Hollywood Bowl. Tim Walz took a shot at Elon Musk as well, getting in on the N.S.F.W. fun: "Look, Elon's on that stage, jumping around skipping like a dipshit."

It hasn't been just well-known celebrities, either. A whopping 82 Nobel laureates released a letter endorsing Kamala Harris. Not to be outdone, 233 mental health professionals signed their own letter stating Trump is unfit for office, also releasing an ad calling him a "malignant narcissist." From their letter:

[Donald Trump's] symptoms of severe, untreatable personality disorder -- malignant narcissism -- makes him deceitful, destructive, deluded, and dangerous. He is grossly unfit for leadership.

But it's not just celebrities and professionals. The biggest news of the week was that multiple people (mostly high-ranking ex-military members) who worked directly for Donald Trump in his administration have finally decided to stop mincing words. This all began with an interview retired Marine Corps four-star General John F. Kelly did with the New York Times, in which he stated that Donald Trump fits the dictionary definition of a fascist. Kelly was Trump's longest-serving White House chief of staff and his secretary of Homeland Security. Here's how Kelly defined the term, in the interview:

It's a far-right authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy.

He then applied it to Trump:

Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he's certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators -- he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure.

He's not the only one, either:

Gen. Mark A. Milley was selected by President Trump in 2019 to serve as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. At the time, Trump praised Milley as being "living proof that the American warfighter is the toughest, smartest and bravest, best and brightest by far anywhere in the world."

In his new book, War, The Washington Post's Bob Woodward described a conversation he had with Milley after Trump left office. Milley described Trump as "fascist to the core" and "the most dangerous person to this country."

Trump tapped Gen. Jim Mattis to serve as his first secretary of defense. He called Mattis "a man of honor, a man of devotion and a man of total action." Speaking on a podcast hosted by the Bulwark last week, Woodward said that he'd received an email from Mattis expressing agreement with Milley's sentiments.

Also:

Mark Esper, who served as secretary of Defense under Donald Trump, backed former colleague John Kelly's recent remarks that he believes Trump meets the definition of a fascist.

Esper told CNN Wednesday that he has no reason to doubt Kelly's "honesty or integrity" in relaying Trump's previous comments. He encouraged the audience to look up the definition of fascism, as Kelly did, and ask whether Trump falls "into those categories."

Other former Trump staffers chimed in with their full agreement as well. Which led to Kamala Harris answering the question of whether she though Trump was a fascist with a very definite: "Yes I do," in a town hall appearance this week.

Harris has also been using Trump's own words against him, in both advertising and out on the campaign trail. She is, in essence, presenting the choice: "Do you really want that in the Oval Office for the next four years?"

She's also leaning heavily into the concept of Donald Trump as a dangerous threat to American democracy. The pundit class has been second-guessing this strategy, but what they all forget is that it has worked twice beforehand. Joe Biden made exactly the same argument both when he got elected and in the midterm campaign -- both of which were clear victories for Democrats. So perhaps it's a more powerful argument than the pundits care to admit?

Meanwhile, Trump is out there talking about Arnold Palmer's penis size, and has scheduled a rally at Madison Square Garden (for some reason). He staged a stunt where he "worked" at a McDonald's in suburban Pennsylvania, and took the time to phone in to a town hall his own vice presidential candidate was holding to ask JD Vance: "How brilliant is Donald J. Trump?" You just can't make this stuff up folks. Trump is also out there lying his face off and losing it, as usual.

Vance is apparently no longer content to just demonize immigrants, he's now decided to demonize immigrant children. Republicans elsewhere are letting their own racist flags fly, as one activist group in North Carolina was told by its leader to challenge all voters with "Hispanic-sounding last names," just on the off chance that they're "suspicious" voters.

This wasn't even enough for Representative Andy Harris (head of the Freedom Caucus in the House), who said this week that it would "make a lot of sense" for the North Carolina legislature to just declare Donald Trump the winner before the votes are even counted, on the pretext that the hurricane damage means a whole bunch of Trump voters might not actually vote. "You statistically can go and say, 'Look, you got disenfranchised in 25 counties. You know what that vote probably would have been.'" This was in response to a speech given by a pro-Trump activist where he called for the Republican-controlled legislatures in New Hampshire, Arizona, Nebraska, Georgia, and Wisconsin to do the same thing -- just declare Trump the winner in advance of the election.

Sadly, this is the current state of the presidential race, a little more than one week out.

 

Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week

Once again this week, we are handing out the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award for a campaign ad. Representative Eric Swalwell, who is going to comfortably cruise to re-election, decided to take on a bigger target than his Republican opponent.

This is a brilliant ad, we should mention. In fact, it is so good the Harris/Walz campaign should start broadcasting it everywhere they can. Here's why:

Rep. Eric Swalwell's (D-Calif.) congressional campaign has released a new ad depicting Donald Trump as a deteriorating elderly relative whose worried family sends him to a nursing home.

In the spot shared on social media Wednesday by Swalwell, an actor portraying the Republican presidential nominee rants and raves about people eating dogs and cats and executing babies, claims that "windmills" are driving whales "a little batty," and riffs about "big massive dumps."

(Notably, these are all things the former president has actually said.)

A concerned family is shown deciding to get Trump the "help he so desperately needed," taking him to an elder care facility called "A Place For Trump."

"Now he has round-the-clock support and can enjoy the things he loves, like eating cheeseburgers and rage-posting at 3 a.m.," the narrator says, as the imagined Trump is seen writing out the tweet, "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!"

That, too, is a real tweet the former president once posted.

It ends with the line: "We all know Donald Trump belongs in a home. Just not the White House."

This is not just funny and scathing, it also feeds into a choice many American voters have been faced with at some point in their lives: when to take grandpa's car keys away and when to put him in a home.

For producing such a brilliant piece of campaign advertising, Representative Eric Swalwell is our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week this week. We sincerely hope Team Harris notices and asks Swalwell if they can use the same ad nationwide, because it is an incredibly effective message.

[Congratulate Representative Eric Swalwell on his House contact page, to let him know you appreciate his efforts.]

 

Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week

We have to begin by awarding former big-time news personality Chris Cuomo a (Dis-)Honorable Mention, for trying to boost his own ratings by being a total schmuck. 'Nuff said.

But sadly we must award the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week to President Joe Biden, for getting a little too carried away this week. Now, it's understandable that Biden might be a little miffed at how he's being ignored these days, but then he is a lame-duck president even before the election, so that's pretty much par for the course.

Even so, Biden truly goofed, this week. While visiting a Democratic campaign office in New Hampshire, Biden said the following, about Donald Trump:

I know this sounds bizarre. It sounds like, if I said this five years ago, you'd lock me up. We've got to lock him up.

He immediately realized what he had done and followed it up with:

Politically lock him up. Lock him out. That's what we have to do.

But the damage had been done.

Biden has been scrupulously not interfering with the Justice Department and his own attorney general, in any of the political investigations that have happened on his watch. This is why his own son Hunter was convicted in a federal court -- something impossible to even imagine happening under Donald Trump. Biden has pushed back on any suggestion that he has been influencing any political investigation at all, consistently.

But that one line gave Trump and all the Republicans something to point to when they accuse Biden of being the puppetmaster and directing all the investigations against Trump and other Republicans from behind the scenes.

Biden, of course, is not guilty of doing so. Neither Trump nor anyone else has ever had a shred of evidence that Biden has interfered with the Justice Department in any way. Which is why Biden deserves this week's Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week this week, for putting that all at risk (at least in the eyes of his opponents).

To his credit, he did immediately correct his gaffe, but like we said, the damage had already been done at that point.

[Contact President Joe Biden on his official contact page, to let him know what you think of his actions.]

 

Friday Talking Points

Volume 772 (10/25/24)

It's been such an intense week we don't even have anywhere else to put the story of some enterprising satirists who placed a fake statue on the National Mall of Nancy Pelosi's desk with a giant turd on it, in faux-homage to the January 6th rioters. That's the kind of week it has been.

Also, a personal note, we have to mention with sadness the passing of the Grateful Dead's bass player, Phil Lesh, whose death was announced today.

Requiescat In Pace

 

1
   You first...

This is the only response such nonsense deserves, really.

"I see that Mike Johnson and Mitch McConnell put out a statement urging Democrats to, and I quote, 'abandon the base and irresponsible rhetoric that endangers both American lives and institutions,' unquote. OK, guys, sure... we'll get right on that... right after Donald Trump does the same thing. You first, OK?"

 

2
   Don't forget the Supreme Court

This is an argument Democrats always seem to neglect, although we've all now seen what the result can be.

"Donald Trump could appoint more and more Supreme Court justices who don't care a whit about precedence or what the Constitution actually says, and instead just vote on a strict party line on every case that comes before them. Trump is proud of the justices he already appointed, who stripped away basic human rights from millions of American citizens. Do you really want more justices like that on the Supreme Court? Then vote for Kamala Harris instead."

 

3
   I believe the generals

And so many, many others.

"Donald Trump is a fascist. If you are unsure of this fact, just listen to the generals who closely served in Trump's White House -- they'll tell you. He is a right-wing authoritarian, he is ultra nationalist in the worst way possible, he wants to be a dictator, he is a racist, and he wants to be able to punish his political enemies using the government. That is the textbook definition of a fascist, folks. He checks all the boxes. But don't take my word for it -- listen to the growing list of people who used to work for Trump, because that is precisely what they are saying."

 

4
   No guardrails

Kamala Harris, to her credit, has been leaning in to this one.

"If Donald Trump gets back in the White House, there will be no 'adults in the room' with him to rein in his worst impulses. Not this time around. There will be no guardrails at all. He will only hire aides who will unquestioningly do anything he orders them to, no matter how illegal or morally wrong it might be. And the Supreme Court has already given him a green light to do anything he wants, as long as he calls it an 'official presidential act.' That should scare you -- Donald Trump with that kind of power. I know it scares me."

 

5
   Trump belongs in a home

Seriously, the Harris/Walz campaign should start running that Swalwell ad.

"Eric Swalwell is right -- Donald Trump belongs in a home, but not the White House. If he was your relative and you heard him ranting about people eating dogs and cats and babies being killed after they were born and schoolchildren going to school one gender and returning home another after they secretly had surgery performed on them -- you would take away his car keys and start looking around for a retirement home for him. That's exactly what American voters should do to Donald Trump -- send him someplace where he can't do any harm."

 

6
   President Caligula

This one seems fitting as well.

"A top Democratic strategist put it nicely the other day, saying of Donald Trump, 'He's blended the policy agenda of Paul Ryan and the character of Caligula.' Do you really want that in the White House for four more years? Remember how exhausting it was to have Trump rage-tweeting in the middle of the night and coming up with more and more unhinged things on a daily basis? That's what we're in for if he wins -- President Caligula. Over 200 mental health professionals just went on the record stating how deranged and dangerous Trump has gotten. He is unfit to serve, period. Personally, I'd rather have someone sane in the White House instead."

 

7
   Those were the days....

Short and sweet, we end where we began.

"Remember when the Washington Post had some integrity? Yeah, me too... those were the days."

-- Chris Weigant

 

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51 Comments on “Friday Talking Points -- Darkness From The Washington Post

  1. [1] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    it's not just wapo, the LA times had a very similar occurrence. whether part of an explicit campaign or not, one gets the feeling that it's a coordinated effort.

  2. [2] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    “Coordinated” only in that both are owned by billionaires who are afraid Trump might win and come after them.Both have lots of government contracts, too.

  3. [3] 
    Michale wrote:

    Are ya'all sensing the pattern??

    Two different rabidly and hysterically LEFT WING Demon'rat water carriers have decided NOT to endorse Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris for POTUS...

    Do ya'all need a ton of bricks to fall on yer tin-foil wrapped heads??

    Headboard Harris simply does not have the mental capability to be POTUS..

    She's a vegetable.. As much as Basement Biden is a vegetable.. But at least Basement Biden has the excuse of being senile and dementia-riddled..

    Headboard Harris is just monumentally stoopid all on her own..

    WaPoop and LA Grime sees this..

    It's to ya'all's eternal shame that ya'all cannot...

  4. [4] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, here is a serious question for ya'all… If you can't answer it (or, more accurately, WON'T answer it) I would hope that it would all cause ya to at least THINK a little bit.. Assuming ya'all actually STILL know how to think..

    I would especially love to hear CW chime in on this.. I really would..

    Ya'all ready???

    Ya'all (with the exception of Liz and JL) have doubled down, tripled down and quadrupled down on the accusation that President Trump is a fascist. Is Hitler reborn.. You have basically followed Demon'rats all over the country like the good lemmings you all are and gone far and wide with the President Trump Is Hitler montage.. This is all well-documented FACT.. VERY well-documented FACT...

    So, here's the question...

    What are ya'all going to do when President Trump wins the election??

    The way I see it, ya'all are, at that time, DUTY BOUND to fight the duly, freely and legally election President Of The United States and his government..

    It would be the DUTY of every Demon'rat in this country, including ya'all, to take up arms against President Trump, the duly, freely and legally elected President and his government..

    They would simply HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE!!!

    Oh wait.. There would be another choice... Ya'all would have to admit, with great embarrassment and great shame that all your claims about President Trump was absolutely and positively NOTHING but lying, hysterical bullshit and hyperbolic campaign rhetoric...

    I dunno.. I am guessing that taking up arms against the duly, freely and legally elected government of the United States would look might preferable to having to admit how completely, unequivocally and full of SHIT ya'all are, eh?? :D

    Given the FACT that ya'all (sans JL & LIZ) and ALL the Trump/America hating Demon'rats have stated UNEQUIVOCALLY and POSITIVELY that President Trump is Hitler, ya'all will simply have NO CHOICE but to rebel and take up arms against the duly, freely and legally elected President Of The United States..

    Right???

    And, as an ancillary question to that question..

    HOW on the gods green earth could ya'all be so COMPLETELY and UTTERLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY ***STOOPID*** and ***MORONIC*** to put yerselves is such a COMPLETELY predictable yet untenable situation??

    Sincere answers only please.. If ya'all are even capable of such.. :^/

  5. [5] 
    Michale wrote:

    Headboard Harris simply does not have the mental capability to be POTUS..

    She's a vegetable.. As much as Basement Biden is a vegetable.. But at least Basement Biden has the excuse of being senile and dementia-riddled..

    Headboard Harris is just monumentally stoopid all on her own..

    WaPoop and LA Grime sees this..

    It's to ya'all's eternal shame that ya'all cannot...

    Oh, and the TEAMSTERS Union sees this as well.. That is why THEY aren't endorsing Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris as well..

    Are ya'all STILL missing the pattern here??

    I guess ya'all's THINKING skills are, indeed, to rusty to see what everyone else on the planet already knows..

    Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris is NOT MENTALLY CAPABLE of being POTUS..

    I have to cut this session short..

    Duty calls and all that.. :D

  6. [6] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    it's not just newspapers, obviously. donald's threats of retribution against those who oppose him appear to have had a chilling effect on many organizations. putting aside for a moment the questions of whether Donald will win, or to what extent those threats are real or would be followed through with, it's still a pretty stark study in cowardice.

  7. [7] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    That's a very unlikely possibility...

    Why would ALL of these media outlets ALL OF THE SUDDEN be afraid of President Trump?? Or are you saying that the Teamsters Union is "afraid" of President Trump?? :^/

    There are absolutely ZERO facts to support the claim that Bezos, WaPoop, LA Times, Teamsters, etc etc are all AFRAID of President Trump...

    It's MORE likely that all of these media outlets and Teamsters Unions etc etc etc just know what every patriotic American knows..

    Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris is as dumb as broken shoelace... And as useless as one...

    On a different note...

    So... What are Trump/America hating Demon'rats going to do when President Trump wins the election??

    Are they going to do their patriotic duty and take up arms against the 2024 "Hitler"???

    Or are they just going to concede how full of shit they have been the last decade or so??

    Com'on.. Give! :D

  8. [8] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Afraid...maybe not. Wanting business in case Trump wins, good possibility. Trump meets with leaders from Bezos-owned Blue Origin. on the same day as the WaPo refused to endorse a candidate. Confirming that when you write "ZERO" reality is usually greater number...

    Of course with Musk talking to Putin there might be some openings for space contracts in the near future...

  9. [9] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK So, Bashi Troll concedes that Bezos, Teamsters et al are NOT afraid of President Trump. They just realize that Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris is dumber than a box of hammers, so they are all backing the winning team..

    Bashi Troll, I accept your concession... :D

    So, all that's left to answer is what are you going to do when they guy YOU claim is "Hitler" wins the election...

    Are you going to grow a pair and do what is your obvious patriotic duty??? Yer not??? Whatta wussie….

  10. [10] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Oh noes, I "conceded" a point I was not part of in the first place. Though if you could actually read you would see the "Maybe" in that first sentence...

    Please point out where I said trump was Hitler and I'll answer. More of a dollar store Mussolini IMO...

    Of course if we were to follow your "logic", and I use the term loosely, then your guy has called Kamala a Marxist, a socialist and a fascist. Should she be elected, what are you going to do?

    See, the knife cuts both ways...

  11. [11] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK... So, NOW Bashi Troll admits that President Trump is NOT Hitler, NOT a fascist..

    Once again, I accept Bashi Troll's concession...

    Of course if we were to follow your "logic", and I use the term loosely, then your guy has called Kamala a Marxist, a socialist and a fascist. Should she be elected, what are you going to do?

    I asked you first... But since you have conceded that President Trump is NOT a fascist, is NOT Hitler, you are off the hook for answering...

    And, since I never claimed that Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris is a fascist or a Hitler, I don't have to respond either..

    You see how wonderful common ground is??

    NEITHER candidate is a fascist or is a Hitler...

    I am glad we can agree on that...

    "Thank you for your cooperation."
    -Black Widow, AVENGERS

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    Looks like Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris I pissing off Progressives just when Harris needs them most. :D

    Progressives upset Kamala Harris is campaigning with Liz Cheney: Report

    'Don't take the progressive movement for granted,' a director of a progressive group told the AP

    Some progressive Democrats are upset with Vice President Kamala Harris' decision to lean on Liz Cheney in the weeks ahead of the election, suggesting the vice president should focus more on her Democratic base.

    "The truth of the matter is that there are a hell of a lot more working-class people who could vote for Kamala Harris than there are conservative Republicans," Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-VT., told the Associated Press.

    Cheney, an anti-Trump Republican, has appeared on the campaign trail with Harris several times. Other progressive leaders, such as Sanders or Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have been "relegated to low-profile roles," according to the AP.

    Progressives are up in arms that Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris is jumping into bed with Darth Cheney and his daughter..

    True to form, Headboard Harris is sleeping with ANYONE who will help her get ahead..

    Now WHO would have thunked that Headboard Harris sleeping with the enemy would cause some progressives to stay home on election day???

    Oh.. Yea... It was me! :D

    Another day and another fact that Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris' campaign is slowly dying...

    While President Trump's train is enjoying a meteoric rise.. :D

    And ya'all STILL cling to the hope that Headboard Harris and NO BALLZ Walz can actually WIN the election.. :D

    That is so cute.. Such blind devotion in the face of overwhelming facts to the contrary... :D

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    Interestingly enough, I think we're seeing a preview of the Demon'rat's plan with Bashi Troll's concession that President Trump is NOT a Hitler... NOT a fascist...

    Demon'rats will likely respond to President Trump's election by claiming, "Oh! We NEVER said President Trump was a fascist!! We NEVER said that President Trump is another Hitler!!!. Never said it.. Not once!!"

    In other words, Demon'rats are going to go with the "We are full of shit and have been for the last decade.." admission..

    Who could have POSSIBLY thunked it!??

    Oh.. Wait... :D

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are singing the praise of President Trump's awesome campaign stop, working a stint at McDonalds..

    If this was the Weigantia of 2006, CW would have also credited President Trump with a BRILLIANT campaign maneuver that totally left Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris in the dirt... :D

    But, alas, this is the 2024 Weigantia and in 2024 Weigantia NO ONE is allowed to concede when President Trump makes a brilliant move...

    The facts are piling up, people.. Headboard Harris is floundering and sinking and President Trump is rising to new heights..

    There doesn't seem to be ANYTHIING that Headboard Harris can do right and there doesn't seem to be ANYTHING that President Trump can do wrong.. :D

    Ya'all better get used to saying PRESIDENT TRUMP for 4 more years.. Because President Donald J Trump is going to be ya'all's President.. :D

  15. [15] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Stop putting words in our mouths just because you suck at rhetoric. If you pulled your head out of your ass and looked up a single post you would see I called him a dollar store Mussolini. I don't think Trump is smart enough to understand the actual governmental structure of fascism and has declined mentally to far to implement it. Trump wants to be in absolute control, has expressed this to members of his administration and hinted it to the public quite often. He sucks up to and seems to admire authoritarians. Many of his tactics share a lot with fascism so it's an easy bad word to call him. At the end of the day I really don't care if it is specifically fascism or just run of the mill authoritarianism, it is completely un-american. You can't seem to mention a politician from the other side without some dumb slur so I take your faux outrage that the left calls Trump a fascist to be high grade hypocrisy...

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK.. So NOW Bashi Troll is saying that President is a Mussolini..

    So, since President Trump is a Mussolini, are you going to take up arms against "Mussolini" when President Trump wins the election and becomes YOUR President, Bashi Troll??

    Hmmmm???

    Or are you just going to whine and cry hysterically, stamp your feet and do nothing??

    If President Trump is a Mussolini, then he must be stopped by any means necessary, right??

    So, what are you going to do about it when your "Mussolini" wins the election and becomes YOUR President??

    What are you going to do about it, Bashi Troll???

    Are you going to take action or just whine and cry impotently???

    What's it going to be??

  17. [17] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Dollar store Mussolini. Whining and crying impotently is your department...

  18. [18] 
    italyrusty wrote:

    President Biden deserves at least an honorable mention for MIDOW for immediately acknowledging the damning report about the mistreatment of Native Americans by the U.S. government.
    'The federal government established Indian boarding schools from 1819 until the 1970s that forcibly removed children from their homes and families.

    Ten days before the general election, Biden's apology at an event in Arizona also gave him a chance to show support for tribal nations in a swing state that the Democratic White House ticket won just by 10,000 votes in 2020.

    "I formally apologise as president of the United States for what we did, " Biden said while visiting the tribally controlled Gila Crossing Community School outside of Phoenix. "It's long overdue."'
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c704z4qxzeno

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bashi Troll

    So. NOW yer saying you are saying that President Trump is NOT a real threat to our country or it's democracy. You are saying that all the Demon'rats who claim President Trump is a real Hitler are totally full of kaa kaa..

    Ok. Once again I accept your concession.

    This common ground stuff is fun... :)

  20. [20] 
    Kick wrote:

    It ends with the line: "We all know Donald Trump belongs in a home. Just not the White House."

    The aide hands him a drink while he whines about having "concepts of a plan," and he uses both hands to drink it like a toddler, as he frequently does:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuD69ZkTpC0

    The only thing missing in the ad is Trump having to have his adult diaper changed, as he also frequently does.

  21. [21] 
    Kick wrote:

    Neither Trump nor anyone else has ever had a shred of evidence that Biden has interfered with the Justice Department in any way.

    On the other hand, did it occur to anyone else that Biden, although likely inadvertently, triggered Trump into multiple admissions regarding his own behavior while president? Because Trump undeniably defined himself.

    There are piles of tangible evidence and there is no question whatsoever that President Donald Trump himself repeatedly called on his own AG to indict Biden, Obama, and Clinton, and he did so multiple times before the 2020 election. One video example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vojJOU3GClg&t=5s

    Needless to say, Trump wasn't happy with the president's "lock him up" comment and responded to Biden's statement at a rally the following day:

    The whole world is watching us, and they see these people that don't deserve to be in any position of authority. Remember, he got – whether you like him or not, I'm not a fan of his – did you see last night he blew it? He said, "lock him up." He would – he said lock him up last night. He's not allowed to do that. He's such a stupid guy. Such a stupid fool.

    ~ Donald Trump, 10/24/2024, rally in Arizona

    In summary, the original "lock him up" and "indict them" president recognizes that a POTUS saying that is "stupid" and a "fool" and doesn't "deserve to be in any position of authority."

  22. [22] 
    Kick wrote:

    FTP 1 You first...

    This is the only response such nonsense deserves, really.

    If anyone hasn't seen Jake Tapper's response to that hypocritical pile of horseshit from McConnell and Johnson, it's definitely worth watching:

    GOP is criticizing Harris for something Trump says often. Tapper rolls the tape

  23. [23] 
    Kick wrote:

    Troll

    Ya'all (with the exception of Liz and JL) have doubled down, tripled down and quadrupled down on the accusation that President Trump is a fascist.

    Republicans who worked with Trump keep bringing it up. If you have a problem with us commenting on it, make the Republicans stop doing it first or get over yourself... or both.

    So, here's the question...

    What are ya'all going to do when President Trump wins the election??

    So, here's the answer: No matter who wins the election, I am quite sure and sincerely feel we are all going to continue living rent free in your tiny little head.

    The way I see it, ya'all are, at that time, DUTY BOUND to fight the duly, freely and legally election President Of The United States and his government..

    "At that time," it'll most likely still be November 2024 when the winner is known, and none of us here has plans to become perps like the gullible MAGA cult morons who got duped by Don the Pathologically Lying Con and who are to date still being arrested and tried and sentenced:

    Trump supporters who bought his lies about the last election face reality in court

    The FBI arrested several new Jan. 6 defendants this week, and a Trump supporter who testified in the Oath Keepers seditious conspiracy trial apologized for his “foolish” actions.

    Oct. 26, 2024, 8:00 AM CDT
    By Ryan J. Reilly

    WASHINGTON — With just days left until the 2024 election, Donald Trump supporters who fell for his lies about fraud in the last election continue to face legal consequences for storming the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, even as Trump managed to stave off his own criminal trial and again become the Republican presidential nominee.

    On Friday afternoon, a young Trump supporter who stormed the Capitol faced sentencing inside a federal courthouse in Washington, just a few hundred feet from the crime scene. Caleb Berry, now 23, who stormed the Capitol along with members of the far-right Oath Keepers group, stood before the judge in a black shirt and apologized to everyone in the courtroom, and to the country.

    Berry had pleaded guilty to conspiracy and obstruction of an official proceeding and cooperated with the government, testifying at two trials for fellow Oath Keepers. At one trial, Berry testified that Oath Keeper Kelly Meggs — who was convicted of seditious conspiracy — told a group of fellow members on the east front of the Capitol that they “were going to stop the vote count” before they formed a military stack and headed into the building “like a battering ram.”

    While it might seem strange to say, Berry told the judge Friday, he is thankful to federal prosecutors for bringing the case against him, saying they gave him a “stern wake-up call” that took him off the “path of radicalization” he was on. Berry called his conduct “foolish” and said he let his emotions get the best of him because he thought he was doing something “for the greater good,” but he had now come to realize that was “entirely false.” Berry said he’ll regret his decisions “for the rest of my life.”

    U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta, who oversaw the trial of numerous Oath Keeper defendants — including founder Stewart Rhodes, who was convicted of seditious conspiracy along with other members — said it is important for Americans to understand the seriousness of the evidence against the group, noting that he’d read some comments online disparaging the case. He spoke about the massive cache of weapons that the Oath Keepers had stashed across the river in Virginia in preparation for Jan. 6, weapons that Rhodes expressed regret over not bringing to the Capitol that day.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-jan-6-rioters-arrest-election-lies-2024-rcna177344

    Nice written confession and projection on your part, troll.

  24. [24] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    geez, this is going to be a wild couple weeks

  25. [25] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    i read in an article somewhere that the correct sort of action to take in response to wapo's non-endorsement would be to cancel our Amazon prime subscriptions. that's really the Crux of the problem; how many voters are willing to do THAT?

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    These "wild" couple weeks will be NOTHING compared to the aftermath of President Trump's huge win..

    We are getting a taste of how much fun it's going to be by Victoria Trolls non answer to a very simple question...

    Are Demon'rats going to take up arms against a POTUS they have claimed is a Hitler??

    Or are they going to concede that all their hateful and bigoted violent rhetoric has been nothing but pure unadulterated kaa-kaa??

    Of course you and I both know exactly what is going to happen. Once President Trump wins the election the trolls will disappear from Weigantia and its just going to be me you and Liz posting. :) won't THAT be fun!!! We can have some real meaningful discussions like we did in the old days... before the trolls and disgusting dishonorable discharged druggie showed up.. :)

  27. [27] 
    Kick wrote:

    Vance is apparently no longer content to just demonize immigrants, he's now decided to demonize immigrant children.

    Hopefully JD's own brown children aren't treated in the same manner in which Vance treats the others.

    Speaking of Vance, he is the only person I've heard actually refer to Donald Trump as "America's Hitler." So the troll is saying that if Trump is elected, people like Vance will, and I quote: "have NO CHOICE but to rebel and take up arms against the duly, freely and legally elected President Of The United States."

    What if the troll is onto something and if Trump wins, the replacement of Trump is exactly what Republicans are planning for him? All they would need do is cease the judicial delay and allow the prosecution of Trump for his multiple crimes.

    Thoughts to ponder.

  28. [28] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    NOW yer saying you are saying...

    I am saying something different than what you are assigning me to make your poorly thought out argument work. It's just sad you have to assign a concession as well rather than earn one...

  29. [29] 
    Kick wrote:

    Troll
    26

    Your ignorance is showing.

    We are getting a taste of how much fun it's going to be by Victoria Trolls non answer to a very simple question...

    Nah. You actually just proved my most definitely an answer was absolutely dead-on-balls accurate. We demonstrably live rent free in the troll's head and shall likely remain ever thus. How unfortunate for us all he's an absolute boor and terminally uncreative bore.

    Are Demon'rats going to take up arms against a POTUS they have claimed is a Hitler??

    Ask a Democrat. I'm not one. Ask JD Vance. He's definitely referred to Trump using that term.

    Or are they going to concede that all their hateful and bigoted violent rhetoric has been nothing but pure unadulterated kaa-kaa??

    The violence on this forum is all yours... always has been... and is archived. The "unadulterated" caca and terminally impotent attempts at putting words in others' mouths is also yours.

    Please keep up that prattling repetitive stale repertoire of yours. You've thoroughly convinced me (and I'm quite sure many others on the forum) that you haven't got a scintilla of a clue how ineffectual and absolutely meaningless it is and remains, and it seems demonstrably plausible you never will.

  30. [30] 
    John From Censornati wrote:

    Haha. The Nazi pervert felcher troll said kaa-kaa.

  31. [31] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    in a way, the decisions from the owners of WaPo and the LA times to force their editors not to endorse is a gift to the Harris campaign.

    it's easy for any teenager to call their parents "fascists" for confiscating the car keys. however, direct and compelling evidence of what fascist policies would actually look like is presently somewhat hard to come by.

    convincing the owners of two big news outlets to overrule their editorial boards on a historic decision, merely by a hint of a possibility of a threat of some possible future government action, is a practical example of what fascism IS.

  32. [32] 
    Kick wrote:

    John From Censornati
    30

    ROTFL

  33. [33] 
    Kick wrote:

    31

    Exactly.

    1. Do not obey in advance.

    Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely
    given. In times like these, individuals think
    ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power what it can do.


    Timothy Snyder, "Twenty Lessons on Fighting Tyranny from the Twentieth Century," Lesson 1

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    in a way, the decisions from the owners of WaPo and the LA times to force their editors not to endorse is a gift to the Harris campaign.

    Yea.. A "gift".. THAT's why CW spent an entire FTP Commentary castigating the decisions.. :D

    it's easy for any teenager to call their parents "fascists" for confiscating the car keys. however, direct and compelling evidence of what fascist policies would actually look like is presently somewhat hard to come by.

    Except that there IS no "direct and compelling evidence of any fascist policies..

    The heads of WaPoop and LA Grime simply looked at the FACTS on the ground, facts ya'all conveniently ignore, and came to the ONLY logical and rational conclusion possible.

    Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris and Tampon Tim NO BALLZ Walz simply CANNOT win... There is simply ZERO path to victory that Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris and Tampon Tim NO BALLZ Walz has...

    Given this blatantly obvious fact, the heads of WaPoop and NY Grime made the ONLY logical and rational business decision a responsible business owner can make..

    DON'T PISS OFF the incoming government administration..

    It's not rocket science, JL.. It's simply good business...

    convincing the owners of two big news outlets to overrule their editorial boards on a historic decision, merely by a hint of a possibility of a threat of some possible future government action, is a practical example of what fascism IS.

    And the Basement Biden/Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris administration convincing the heads of social media to bury the FACTS of the Hunter Biden laptop so Basement Biden/Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris campaign can win the election..

    Isn't that ALSO a "practical example of what fascism IS"???

    :eyeroll:

    Once again.. You accuse President Trump of doing EXACTLY what the Demon'rats are doing...

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Blerp...derp.. uh uh.. blaa blaa..derp..veeerp… bla blaaa meerrp
    -Victoria Troll

    And, as per Victoria Troll's usual slogs, she doesn't have a SINGLE solitary fact to support ANY of her BS claims.. Funny how that is ALWAYS the case..

    And the we have Bashi Troll changing his position AGAIN and claiming President Trump is Hitler.. :eyeroll:

    The only thing missing is the dishonorably discharged druggie inmate.. I guess his cell block is on lockdown again. :^/

    And NONE of them can answer the very simple question..

    What are they going to do when President Trump wins.. Are the trolls going to do what honor DEMANDS and take up arms against the freely, duly, fairly and legally elected government?? I mean, if President Trump IS ACTUALLY Hitler re-incarnated, that is the ONLY decision possible...

    OR are they going to admit that they are full of shit and everything they have claimed over the past decade was nothing but blatant lies..

    The simple fact that the Weigantian Trolls refuse to answer the question simply proves the validity of the question...

    SILENCE GIVES ASSENT
    -Weigantian Trolls

  36. [36] 
    Michale wrote:

    @italyrusty

    President Biden deserves at least an honorable mention for MIDOW for immediately acknowledging the damning report about the mistreatment of Native Americans by the U.S. government.
    'The federal government established Indian boarding schools from 1819 until the 1970s that forcibly removed children from their homes and families.

    In that case, President Trump deserves a HUGE award for signing into law the BIGGEST civil rights boost for native Americans since Demon'rats fought tooth and nail against the civil rights laws of the 50s and 60s..

    But of course, yer going to ignore that, eh??

    Which simply proves that you really don't care about native Americans and their rights at all..

    You simply are full of Trump/America hate.. :eyeroll:

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    @italyrusty

    I am also constrained to point out that an "apology" from a senile and dementia-riddled old fool who couldn't even FINISH a campaign means very VERY little..

    :eyeroll:

  38. [38] 
    Michale wrote:

    a senile and dementia-riddled old fool who couldn't even FINISH a campaign

    Who could have POSSIBLY predicted that senile and dementia-riddled Basement Biden couldn't even FINISH the campaign..

    Who could have POSSIBLY predicted that would happen!??

    Oh... Wait... :D

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    Did ya'all see the MASSIVE crowds at Madison Square Gardens!!??

    HOLY CRAP, what an extravaganza!!!

    And, unlike Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris and her faux rallies, President Trump didn't have to bus people in from all over the country.. Each and every attendee was there completely of their own volition, unlike Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris having to PAY people to attend her BS rallies..

    I mean, what an awesome campaign event!!!

    And ta think that there are ACTUALLY morons out there who think that President Trump won't win!!!

    It boggles the mind!!! :D

    This is definitely President Trump's race!! :D

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    What is the Demon'rats campaign platform??

    Are they running on Secure Borders??

    Well, no.. Demon'rats can't run on THAT because they totally frak'ed up the border..

    Are Demon'rats running on a Sound Economy platform??

    HA!! Demon'rats drove the US economy deep into the muck and mire.. It's simply not possible that a Demon'rat message of "Give us 4 more years and we'll REALLY do the economy!!" is going to fly... Patriotic Americans would respond, "You've done enough!!!"

    Nope, Demon'rats SOLE campaign platform is ""WE HATE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND WE HATE ALL AMERICANS WHO SUPPORT PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!"

    That's it.. That is the ENTIRE Demon'rat Party platform..

    And you people think that THAT will actually win the election for Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris and Tampon Tim NO BALLZ Walz!!???

    REALLY!!!???

    BBBBBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    You guys crack me up!! :D

  41. [41] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    Yunno… Another definition of fascism includes arresting political opponents and trying to put political opponents in prison on trumped-up BS charges..

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm

    President Trump has never done that...

    But Basement Biden, Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris and the Demon'rats have done that..

    Once again, Basement Biden, Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris and the Demon'rats are the fascists.. The FACTS prove this beyond ANY doubt..

  42. [42] 
    Michale wrote:

    And what are Demon'rat Water Carrier Polls telling us about the state of the Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris and Tampon Tim NO BALLZ Walz campaign??

    Kornacki: Harris No Longer More Popular Than Trump In New CNBC, NBC Polls

    NBC elections analyst Steve Kornacki runs down the results of a new CNBC poll giving Donald Trump a 48-46 lead over Kamala Harris nationally, and Harris a negative ten popularity rating, 10 days before the 2024 election.

    STEVE KORNACKI, NBC NEWS: This is what the CNBC poll finds: Trump 48 to 46 over Harris.

    There is a breakout here just of the seven core battleground states. It's not quite as extensive a pool of voters, so the margin of error for just the battleground states is a little bit higher. But what the seven battleground state result shows is Trump at 48% across those seven states and Harris at 47% across those states.

    But the important message in these polls is NOT that President Trump is once again BEATING the Demon'rat nominee..

    The IMPORTANT message is the trend..

    Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris is sinking and sinking fast...

    And President Trump's number are rising just as fast...

    At this point in time in the 2020 election, Basement Biden was ahead in the polls by almost 10 points.. And we KNOW for a fact that ALL of those polls under-counted President Trump support by almost 8 points...

    The facts are plain, people...

    President Trump is going to win the election..

    THEN.... THEN we will see if Demon'rats TRULY and HONESTLY believe that President Trump is Hitler....

    THEN.... THEN we will see who the "election deniers" really are...

  43. [43] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    @m,

    the question of who is most likely to win an election should have zero impact on a newspaper's editorial decisions.

    It's not rocket science, JL.. It's simply good business...

    no, it's businessmen behaving as if they're about to be ruled by a fascist. i'm on record that donald trump is both likely to win and probably not a fascist, but my opinion is that jeff bezos and Patrick Soon-Shiong are behaving like he is one.

    Another definition of fascism includes arresting political opponents and trying to put political opponents in prison on trumped-up BS charges..

    if that massive conspiracy theory were true, then sure. but it's false, so no dice. people broke the law, were indicted and convicted by randomly selected juries of their peers, and the chips can fall where they may. just because someone doesn't like the way the law is being enforced in the state where they broke it, doesn't mean they're innocent victims of persecution (see: brown, michael). those who break the law, leave themselves open to enforcement. you know that better than anybody.

    Isn't [not reporting extensively on hunter biden's laptop] ALSO a "practical example of what fascism IS"???

    negative. no government action ever intimidated journalists into silence on that. most of the individuals who could have reported on the story were of the sincere opinion that the evidence was insufficient to classify it as a real event. reporting (or not) based on your true opinion is not the same as being forced to report (or not) based on what might happen to you. the latter is fascism, the former is the first amendment.

    JL

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    the question of who is most likely to win an election should have zero impact on a newspaper's editorial decisions.

    Yes, in the perfect koom-bye-ya world, you would be correct..

    But we don't live in that world, do we??

    A newspaper is a business. And, like with all businesses has ONE single and solitary goal.. To make money...

    Again, that is not ideal..

    But it certainly a step up from having newspapers frak over the American people. As WaPoop and LA Grime has done consistently since 2015...

    no, it's businessmen behaving as if they're about to be ruled by a fascist. i'm on record that donald trump is both likely to win and probably not a fascist, but my opinion is that jeff bezos and Patrick Soon-Shiong are behaving like he is one.

    You mean like the social media companies and the press were when they covered for Basement Biden and Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris in 2020??

    You mean like that??

    if that massive conspiracy theory were true, then sure. but it's false, so no dice.

    It's your OPINION that it is false. And you have ZERO facts to back up said opinion..

    negative. no government action ever intimidated journalists into silence on that.

    The FBI and the SCOTUS says different....

    reporting (or not) based on your true opinion is not the same as being forced to report (or not) based on what might happen to you. the latter is fascism, the former is the first amendment.

    And yet, the SCOTUS ruled that the government illegally forced social media companies to bury the hunter biden laptop story..

    Which, as YOU yourself defined, is fascism..

  45. [45] 
    Michale wrote:

    I'de still like an answer to the original question, if you don't mind..

    What do you think the Weigantian trolls are going to do when President Trump wins??

    Are they going to take up arms against the new "fascist" duly elected US Government??

    Are they going to admit that they have just been spewing bullshit the last decade or so??

    Or are they just going to disappear..

    Com'on.. I have addressed each and every question you have asked me..

    You could, at the very least, do me the same courtesy, eh?? :D

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    Florida woman calls 911 for 'pizza,' gets rescued from illegal immigrant during alleged rape attempt

    Luis Diego Hernandez-Moncayo, 27, has been charged, sheriff's office says

    One of my sister 911-Operator saves the day..

    And it was evil Demon'rat policies that allowed this scumbag rapist to flourish here in the US...

    And you people STILL believe that Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris and her disgusting Hate America policies can win??

    How utterly moronic...

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Everyone knows that Demon'rats hate children and want to kill them even before they are born...

    Harris rallygoer screams at baby in stroller in shocking viral video

    It is unclear what provoked the altercation with the little girl

    A video of a woman screaming at a toddler outside of Vice President Kamala Harris' celebrity-packed Houston rally is going viral on social media as critics slam the shocking behavior seen toward a child.

    Harris' Texas rally Friday was joined by celebrities such as Beyoncé, Jessica Alba and Willie Nelson to make a last-ditch appeal to voters in the red state ahead of next week's election.

    A video posted to social media shortly after the event shows a woman in a light blue T-shirt standing outside what appears to be the Houston Metro station walking over to a little girl in a stroller among the throngs of people decked out in Harris-Walz apparel.

    The woman in the light blue shirt is seen leaning down to the toddler in the stroller and screaming in her face. It is unclear what the woman said and what provoked the incident.

    But now we have Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris supporters verbally attacking toddlers in their STROLLER!!!???

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1850353368910242123

    What is your people's problem!!! How can you support Demon'rats who pull this kind of crap!!!???

    JL, imagine that had been YOUR child in that stroller and a President Trump supporter did that?? What would your reaction had been???

    Had that been MY grand-daughter, that Headboard Harris supporter would have been bitch-slapped into last week...

    What is the MATTER with you people that you support Demon'rats like this!??

  48. [48] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's become blatantly obvious that the ONLY platform that Demon'rats have to run on is the HATE TRUMP/AMERICA platform...

    But it's going to backfire...

    Where'd the joy go? Harris ditches happy vibes for fearmongering about Trump.

    Kamala Harris is having to ditch the joy and turn to stoking fear of Donald Trump because she has utterly failed to define herself to the American people.

    For a candidate who has inexplicably changed her view on every major issue, perhaps it’s not surprising that Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign has also done a complete 180.

    What began this summer with an explosion of “joy” and “good vibes” has suddenly morphed into something very different, now that we're closing in on the election.

    Democrats seized on Harris’ happy persona and her big smile, and for a while, that seemed to be enough to put her within striking distance of former President Donald Trump. It also helped that she wasn’t her boss, President Joe Biden, whose decline had become impossible to cover up.

    Harris’ initial jolt has fizzled, however, and polls indicate that she’s losing ground in these crucial final days of the campaign – while Trump is gaining it.

    That’s why in recent days, the tenor of Harris’ campaign has changed dramatically from one of joy to one of fearmongering. Gone are the days of focusing on her “opportunity economy.” Now is the time for calling Trump a “fascist.”

    Demon'rats are simply hastening their own decline..

    By the time election day rolls around, Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris, Tampon Tim NO BALLZ Walz and Demon'rats are going to be losing to President Trump by double digits..

    This is coming from the patriotic American Veteran (no one else here can make that claim) who called it dead on ballz accurate that Basement Biden would NEVER finish the campaign.. :D

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, JL...

    Once again.. I have to tell you that you are wrong... And the Weigantian Trolls are WRONG...

    Bezos is NOT withholding his paper's endorsement because he is "afraid" of Demon'rats fantasy claims of "fascism" from President Trump's administration..

    Billionaire Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos reportedly wants to add more conservative writers to the paper’s opinion section in an effort to expand the "Democracy Dies in Darkness" paper’s audience.

    Bezos has informed publisher William Lewis "that he wants more conservative writers on the opinion section," the Times added.

    So, things are simply as *I* stated...

    Bezos is making a SMART ** BUSINESS DECISION ** to expand the clientele of WaPoop….

    Why is it that, when Demon'rats here hoof beats, they IMMEDIATELY think of wildebeests??? :eyeroll:

  50. [50] 
    Michale wrote:

    Welp, it's that time again..

    Time for me to spend my time with my lovely wife of 43 years...

    Eat yer hearts out, bitches!! :D I feel sorry for ya'all that ya'all are so pathetically alone... :D

    Here, JL... I'll do it for you...

    "Awwww geeeze…"

    :D

  51. [51] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    Are the trolls going to do what honor DEMANDS and take up arms against the freely, duly, fairly and legally elected government??

    Trump had his faithful supporters do that on January 6th, 2021. It's strange that you weren't part of that crowd… but you have always been more windbag than anything else. Even funnier is Trump trying to claim that his involvement with January 6 was just as a guest speaker to some event that he had nothing to do with.

    Oh, let me answer some of the questions you claim no one has given you an answer to (they have; you just don't have the reading comprehension skills necessary to realize it). Yes, Trump is a fascist — just not as good of one as he wishes he was. You see, Trump wishes he was as powerful a leader as Hitler was, but he is far too stupid to be that successful of a leader. His dementia is advanced to the point that he could never be close to Hitler’s level of fascism. This is something he would deny presently, but I am confident that when he is convicted in federal court, his mental decline will suddenly become relevant and a topic that he will want everyone to acknowledge.

    I love that you are still showing off your sense of humor by claiming Trump is going to win the election. Trump has never won the popular vote, even when he won the 2016 election Clinton had more than 3 million more votes cast for her. In 2020, Biden won the election with 6 million more votes. Harris is on track to pull even more votes than Biden did. Whose vote has Trump picked up for this election?

    Trump’s mishandling of the pandemic was classic “Grand Leader” material! He is recorded telling Bob Woodward how dangerous and deadly the virus was while lying to the nation and telling his supporters that they didn't need to take any of the precautions the scientists recommended. He wanted people to listen to HIM and take HIS advice instead. So that got rid of about a million of his most gullible/faithful followers. And the thousands of his truly faithful followers who showed up on January 6 (not you, obviously) and lost their right to vote won't be voting for him in this election. Trump killed or made felons out of his most faithful voters. So where are his votes gonna come from?

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