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Afterthoughts

[ Posted Wednesday, November 6th, 2024 – 16:41 UTC ]

As we all contemplate another four years of Donald Trump, the second-guessing and finger-pointing has already begun. Maybe things would have been different if Joe Biden had decided, on his own, to live up to his pledge of being a transitional president by announcing he would not run for a second term. Maybe things would have been different if he had finished his campaign -- he beat Trump once, right? Maybe there should have been a real contest to see which Democrat should run instead of Biden. Maybe Kamala Harris wasn't the best candidate. Maybe Democrats should have gone with a more traditional (White male, in other words) candidate. Maybe she should have picked someone else to be on the ticket with her. There will be plenty of time to anguish over all of these and more (anguish is what Democrats do best, after all).

In the end, though, the American people wanted Trump, so we're all in for another rollercoaster ride for the next four years. Or less -- I find myself wondering how long it will take JD Vance to convince a majority of Trump's cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment, so Vance can take over. Early 2026, perhaps? Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Trump has promised many things to many people, a lot of them to happen on "Day One." He won't follow through on most of them, but I doubt many of his supporters will care. He certainly didn't follow through on many of the promises he made in his first term, but it never really seemed to matter that much to them. Trump's not really about policy, he's all about entertainment value above all else, and he was entertaining enough for his followers last time around.

We will enter a period of Republican excess, that much seems certain. They seem destined to overreach in their ambitions, and will likely do things that turn out to be wildly unpopular. Such is the nature of politics.

During Trump's first term, we were spared from the worst of his impulses by two things. First, he actually did have a few "adults in the room" who would explain why Trump's flights of fancy were very bad ideas. And the second was his own incompetence. Trump doesn't have a lot of follow-through. He gets mad, throws a tantrum, and then forgets about it. In his second term, however, there won't be any adults left in the room -- Trump will hire people solely on how loyal they are to him. They will likely do whatever he asks them to, without question. They certainly won't push back on him, they'll fall all over themselves to do his every bidding. So all we've got left as a check is Trump's incompetence -- which seems to be growing worse as time goes on. But it's a thin reed to cling to, admittedly.

The scariest thing is that the Supreme Court has already ruled that Trump cannot be held accountable for any "official acts." This green light is incredibly frightening. Trump is impulsive enough already, and now he knows ahead of time that he's never going to have to answer for any of it. And all he's got to do is to label everything "official acts," which I fully expect him to make the most of.

The only thing that there is to look forward to is the fact that Trump will enter office as a lame duck. He cannot run for president again, ever. The only way to change this is to pass a constitutional amendment, which is simply not going to happen. So at most, we've only got four more years of Trump to get through.

Personally, I'm going to try to keep away from the blame game. Could Harris have run a better campaign? Possibly. Would another candidate have made a difference? That's possible too. But then again maybe not. The American political landscape is so tribal now that it's hard to break through -- the polling barely shifted during the entire election, no matter what happened. The people who supported Trump were not ready to be talked out of doing so, to be blunt. The people who didn't were never going to suddenly get behind Trump. Politics isn't just tribal in American now, it is almost perfectly balanced. Occasionally Republicans gain an edge (as they just did) and occasionally Democrats gain an edge, but it's going to be a while before any politician can truly "unify" America behind them.

It's going to be a very long four years, and the Republican overreach is going to become unbearable, but at this point there's just no avoiding it. America may go through some fundamental changes and morph into something unrecognizable. That possibility has never really been a concern before now, but Trump has so completely taken over the Republican Party that it's doubtful any of them will stand up to anything he proposes, no matter how destructive it happens to be.

The thing about having a "strongman" leader is that they never accept any blame if things don't turn out as rosy as they promise. A new scapegoat will be trotted out instead, to distract the public from any gross failures. And Donald Trump is a master of distraction, we've already seen that in his first term. So although he's made sweeping promises to fix everything on Day One, when that doesn't turn out to be the case, he'll stage some center-ring spectacle to divert everyone's attention. Or he'll just lie and say everything is better than it ever was, all evidence to the contrary.

That's exactly what America voted for, and it is what America is going to get.

-- Chris Weigant

 

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42 Comments on “Afterthoughts”

  1. [1] 
    Michale wrote:

    He won't follow through on most of them,

    Assumes facts not in evidence...

    The scariest thing is that the Supreme Court has already ruled that Trump cannot be held accountable for any "official acts."

    Which has ALWAYS been the case.. That's why Odumbo wasn't prosecuted for murder when he killed American citizens without a trial..

    EVERY POTUS has enjoyed absolute immunity for official acts.. It was an unspoken rule..

    Don't get bitchy because Democrats were so drunk with PTDS and Trump/America Hate that the forced the SCOTUS to actually codify the unspoken rule into law..

    Personally, I'm going to try to keep away from the blame game. Could Harris have run a better campaign? Possibly.

    Oh Puuulllleeeeeessseeeee…

    Was WWII a bad thing for the jewish people?? Possibly

    See how both statements sound the same?? :eyeroll:

    That's exactly what America voted for, and it is what America is going to get.

    I am heartened to hear you accepting the will of the people..

    I honestly thought it could go either way...

    It's good that Democrats are going to work with Adolph Hitler, a man who is, according to Democrats, a fascist...

    It must be nice to have such er... uh... flexible ideals and principles, eh?? :D

  2. [2] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    I just hope there isn't another major national emergency, because Donald has already proven that he does not know how to handle one.

    {{cough, cough}} HELENE {{cough}}{{cough}}

    Further, it's only because of President Trump and OPERATION WARP SPEED that we ended the WORLD WIDE pandemic quickly...

    Finally, it was DEMOCRAT incompetence and fear-mongering that destroyed our economy for a virus that had a 98.5 survival rate..

    Something about glass houses and stones comes to mind..

    Lemme know about those donations.. I gotta wait til payday..

  3. [3] 
    Michale wrote:

    So.....

    What's ya'all's opinion on Democrats' lawfare operations???

    Personally, I think they should admit defeat and apologized to all involved..

    This is an object lesson against fascism..

    Don't use the courts and a twisted fascist version of the law to try and settle political scores and interjecting election campaigning by other means..

    It's a process that ultimately backfires..

    Would Democrats have won if they had simply killed the lawfare operations in it their infancies???

    Quite possibly.

  4. [4] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Chris,

    Maybe things would have been different if Joe Biden had decided, on his own, to live up to his pledge of being a transitional president by announcing he would not run for a second term.

    What!? Did Biden ever intimate in the slightest way that he intended only to be a one-term president? Who defined transitional president to mean a one-term president?

    That sounds like a classic case of avoiding any responsibility, whatsoever, for forcing him out of office in the despicable way that was done.

  5. [5] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    In the end, though, the American people wanted Trump, so we're all in for another rollercoaster ride for the next four years.

    I hope Democrats, inside and outside of the beltway establishment, understand just WHY the American people wanted Trump. It's really not that hard to figure out. Why Dems were trounced in 2024 is not rocket science, in other words.

    Or less -- I find myself wondering how long it will take JD Vance to convince a majority of Trump's cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment, so Vance can take over. Early 2026, perhaps? Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

    Wow. After 4 years of this sort of talk about Trump, it all rings decidedly hollow.

    Dems would be better spending their time on what they need to do to regain the trust of the American people. Because that is the only way they start winning critical elections again.

  6. [6] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    In the wake of this presidential election one of the things that Dems should be focused on is all aspects of the massive gender divide among Democrats and Republicans.

    Republicans are winning the male vote but this is happening largely on style rather than on policy. Whereas Democrats support policies that are pro-male but they don't talk about those policies like that. The infrastructure bill, for example, produced a lot of good paying jobs for men but Dems did little to focus on that.

    Being pro-male doesn't mean you can't be pro-female, too. Democrats have to figure out how to do both and how to talk about it.

    Trump has attracted the male vote by his very style of masculinity and focus on male grievance. Dems have really done nothing to counter this and they lost a lot of the female vote, too.

    There is an interesting piece in Politico about all of this:
    How to win male voters without harming women

  7. [7] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    president Biden did an excellent job helping after Helene, and got flayed in the conservative press based on lies. in 8 months of COVID Donald's refusal to lead the nation in any way other than vaccine development killed about 300,000 Americans who otherwise would have survived. he is the undisputed champion at bungling an emergency response.
    "ain't no ballpark, ain't no league, hell it ain't even the to same f***in' sport."
    Jules Winfield (Samuel L Jackson), pulp fiction

  8. [8] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    cw will have my donation within the week

  9. [9] 
    Kick wrote:

    Trump has promised many things to many people, a lot of them to happen on "Day One."

    Shall we drill down on that. Yes, we shall.
    ________________________________
     
    * End the Russia-Ukraine war within 24 hours

    * Hold China financially responsible for COVID-19 pandemic

    * Stop China from buying land in the United States

    * Withdraw from the World Health Organization (WHO)

    * Construction of Iron Dome missile defense system for the US

    * Provide record-breaking generous military funding

    * Mass deportation of "all immigrants living in the country illegally"
    - Use of local law enforcement and National Guard
    - Mass deportation camps and using military

    * Redoubled promise to build a border wall
    * Ending birthright citizenship (constitutional right)
    * Restoration and expansion of travel ban
    * Federal law enforcement assistance in immigration enforcement
    * Revocation of Temporary Protected Status of Haitians in Springfield, Ohio [the eating dogs and cats bullshit]

    * Tariffs of 10%-20% for all nondomestic goods sold in U.S.
    * Tariff of 60% for goods from China
    * Institute reciprocal tariff policy
    * Banning US companies from investing in Chinese companies and vice versa
    * Four-year plan to phase out Chinese imports
    * "Middle class, upper class, lower class, business class, big tax cut"
    * Ending federal taxation of Social Security
    * Ending taxation on tips
    * Ending taxation on overtime
    * Reduction of taxation for Americans living overseas
    * Reduction of corporate tax rate from 21% to 15% "for companies that make their products in America"
    * Temporary cap on credit card interest rates "at around 10%. We can't let them make 25% and 30%."
    * Cut car insurance rates by 50%
    * Tax deductible interest on car loans
    * Tax deductible purchase of a home generator
    * Restore state and local tax deduction (SALT) [that he capped in 2017 tax law]
    * Creation of "freedom cities" on federal land via a national contest
    * Creation of "baby bonuses" for young parents
    * Oppose government bailouts of corporations

    * Leave Social Security and Medicare unchanged
    * Keep the Social Security retirement age unchanged

    * In vitro fertilization treatment, either:
    - Have the government pay for IVF treatment or
    - Require insurers to pay for IVF treatment

    * Tax credit for family caregivers

    * Banning of urban camping and arrest of violators
    * Creation of "tent cities" where homeless can be moved
    * Ending of veteran homelessness

    * Abolish the Education Department
    * Spend more money per pupil on education than any other country in the world
    * Provide universal school choice
    * Provide $10,000 per child tax-free to homeschoolers
    * Make sure homeschoolers can access the same experiences that in-school students have
    * Make school principals a directly elected position
    * Creation of a new credentialing body for teachers
    * Abolish teacher tenure for grades K-12
    * No federal dollars for schools with vaccine mandates
    * Allow prayer and other religious activities in public schools
    * Cease funding colleges that engage in "censorship"
    * Increase funding for schools with job and career counselors
    * Create a competition for high school athletes called "The Patriot Games"

    * Fully pardon people convicted of crimes related to the storming the Capitol on January 6, 2021
    * Appoint a special prosecutor to "go after" Joe Biden and his family
    * Seek the death penalty for child rapists and child traffickers [no word on death penalty for adult rapists]
    * Impose the death penalty for selling drugs
    * Stop-and-frisk policing
    * Increase punishments for juvenile offenders
    * Increase the use of the death penalty
    * Increase liability protections for police officers, police immunity

    * Expansion of concealed carry rights
    * Overturning of Biden policies affecting gun owners and manufacturers
    * Investigate federal arrests regarding conservatives and Christians [no word on anti-Jewish and anti-Islamic arrests]

    * Commutation of the sentence of Ross Ulbricht, website operator of "Silk Road," a website that sold illegal hardcore drugs and adjudicated responsible for causing six deaths.

    * Lots of promises about changing how states run elections [in connection with the Big Lie that he won the 2020 election that he knows he lost]

    * Lots of promises about interfering in medical doctors' treatment of transgender persons

    * Empower the president to remove "rogue bureaucrats" [I assume the president unilaterally decides who is "rogue"]

    * Establish a "Truth and Reconciliation Commission" to investigate the "deep state" [i.e., all Americans who work for the United States]

    * Require federal employees to pass a civil service test [sounds like a "loyalty test"]

    * Cut the federal government's budget every year [despite all promises to the contrary?]

    * Create a "Government Efficiency Commisson" to "eliminate fraud and improper payments"

    * Challenge limits on the president's ability to cut federal spending.

    * Revoke federal initiatives on diversity, equity and inclusion.

    * Create a restitution fund for people who have been harmed by diversity, equity and inclusion policies.

    * Ban any federal department from restricting free speech [I suppose unless that free speech involves the free speech you've promised to ban]

    * Establish an auditing system to make sure agencies aren't spying on citizens [I suppose unless they are citizen federal employees being investigated as promised]

    * Have the federal government take over management of DC
    * Crack down on government officials who leak
    * Cut off federal funding for NPR
    * Again leave the Paris climate accords
    * Eliminate "mandates" for electric vehicles [easy promise, there are no "mandates"]
    * Approval of liquefied natural gas terminals in one day
    * Issue an executive order ending offshore wind energy development
    * Make American energy the cheapest in the world
    * Lower energy costs within the first year by 50%
    * Fill up the Strategic Petroleum Reserve "immediately"
    ________________________________

    There are more.

  10. [10] 
    Kick wrote:

    He gets mad, throws a tantrum, and then forgets about it.

    Hallmarks of dementia... particularly frontotemporal dementia versus other varieties.

    In his second term, however, there won't be any adults left in the room -- Trump will hire people solely on how loyal they are to him. They will likely do whatever he asks them to, without question. They certainly won't push back on him, they'll fall all over themselves to do his every bidding.

    Exactly.

    Duplicative from a comment I posted on yesterday's commentary but bears repeating:

    Modern-day "Republicans" in general have repeatedly proven they cannot govern because they are not leaders but cowards who have abdicated their oaths and responsibilities to a pathologically lying opportunist who invents his own reality and cares for little else beyond money and power combined with an unquenchable neediness for praise.

  11. [11] 
    Kick wrote:

    The people who supported Trump were not ready to be talked out of doing so, to be blunt.

    Interesting phenomenon that the people who support Trump are the very same people who will attempt endlessly to convince other people not to support [fill in candidate's name of choice] because they lied.

    The people who didn't were never going to suddenly get behind Trump.

    Because he's a pathological liar... and also a convicted criminal who along with his CFO and his company has been found civilly and criminally liable for violating multiple laws involving business fraud on multiple levels, including illegally conspiring with the National Enquirer to invent stories about multiple political opponents and altering business records in the coverup thereof.

  12. [12] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    What!? Did Biden ever intimate in the slightest way that he intended only to be a one-term president?

    Why yes. Yes he did. On several occasions.

    Wow. After 4 years of this sort of talk about Trump, it all rings decidedly hollow.

    Yep. It's clear that Democrats haven't learned a SINGLE lesson from being trounced by President Trump..

    TWICE...

    I am guessing we're in for another 4 years of PTDS and hysterical Trump/America hate... :eyeroll:

    Dems would be better spending their time on what they need to do to regain the trust of the American people. Because that is the only way they start winning critical elections again.

    It's become obvious that Democrats have burned that bridge.

    When you accuse your political opponent of being Hitler and being a fascist there is simply no coming back from that..

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    president Biden did an excellent job helping after Helene,

    Not factually accurate..

    The response to Helene was atrocious. Made so my worse by Biden's DHS secretary whining about being out of money because the spent billions on illegal immigrants..

    and got flayed in the conservative press based on lies.

    Again. Not factually accurate.. Objective fact based reports was what flayed Biden and Mayorkas..

    The rest is your opinion based on Trump hate and has no basis in fact.

    The pandemic was unprecedented and made 100x worse by Democrat fear-mongering.

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    Caddy,

    Holy shit — boy was I wrong!

    Told ya so... :D

    Interesting to note.

    Harris underperformed Biden in EVERY state and almost EVERY county in the country!!

    WHO could have POSSIBLY predicted that it was Harris' underperforming that would cost Democrats the election..

    Oh.. Wait.. :D

    And I believe someone said something about how Harris' 2024 campaign was just as effective as her 2019 campaign.. :D

    How Kamala Harris' failed 2024 presidential run mirrors her ill-fated 2020 campaign

    Both of Harris' failed presidential runs 'started with great promise,' expert says

    Vice President Harris' second failed presidential bid mirrors aspects of her first trek on the campaign trail in 2019, proving to be short-lived and unfocused on key issues important to American voters, experts say.

    "Both started with great promise," Tevi Troy, a presidential historian and former senior official in the George W. Bush administration, told Fox News Digital in an interview.

    "There's the sense that she's the savior of the new flavor, the next generation for Democrats, and both kind of failed spectacularly," he said.

    The woman simply cannot relate to everyday Americans.. She has proven this fact beyond a reasonable doubt.

    TWICE!!!

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    "My pronouns are 45th, 47th and WINNER"
    -President-Elect Donald Trump

    :D

  16. [16] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrats are simply taking ALL the wrong lessons from their SECOND shellacking courtesy of President Trump.

    Word is coming down from Progressive On High (no pun intended) that progressives plan to fight HARDER against President-Elect Trump (I just LOVE typing that.. PRESIDENT DASH ELECT :D TRUMP) and his supporters.

    What hysterical Democrats don't realize is that President-Elect Trump's supporters are now the MAJORITY of Americans. By a considerably margin.. :D

    Since it was their Trump/America hate that got progressives into this mess in their first place.... NOW it's their plan to double down and triple down on that same exact hate..

    GREAT plan!! {/sarc} :eyeroll:

    I think it is WAY past time for you Democrats, including everyone here, to take a good long look in the mirror and say, "Hmmmm Maybe it's not THEM that are the problem. Maybe WE are the problem.."

    But I know that Democrats do not have it in them to do that. To consider the actual FACTS and actual reality of the situation.

    And so it will go on and on...

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Trump has been judged by a jury of his peers and has been found completely capable, nay, DEMANDED to be the next President Of The United States..

    Donald Trump just won the greatest jury verdict in American history

    Nearly two years ago, I wrote that Democratic prosecutors’ lawfare campaign against Donald Trump would make the 2024 election the single largest jury decision in history. Now that the verdict is in, the question is whether prosecutors will continue their unrelenting campaign against the president-elect and his companies.

    The answer is that it may not matter.

    The election reflected a certain gag sensation for a public fed a relentless diet of panic and identity politics for eight years. The 2024 election will come to be viewed as one of the biggest political and cultural shifts in our history. It was the mainstream-media-versus-new media election; the Rogan-versus-Oprah election; the establishment-versus-a-disassociated-electorate election.

    It was also a thorough rejection of lawfare. One of the things most frustrating for Trump’s opponents was that every trial or hearing seemed to give Trump a boost in the polls. As cases piled up in Washington, New York, Florida and Georgia, the effort seemed to move more toward political acclamation than isolation.

    Now, these cases are now legal versions of the Flying Dutchman — ships destined to sail endlessly but never make port.

    I posed the question earlier.. Funny how everyone was silent.

    That's OK as ya'all have established.. SILENCE GIVES ASSENT

    :D

    The simple fact is, the persecutions and lawfare operations against President Trump gave him HUGE boosts in the polls..

    Why?? Because Americans don't like seeing people bullied and persecuted by people who pervert the law for their own nefarious ends..

    President Trump has been judged by a jury of his peers and been pronounced PRESIDENT-ELECT.

    Get over it, Democrats. Your lawfare persecutions won the election for President-Elect Trump.

    Lick your wounds, do the right thing and then move on..

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    Here is your dilemma..

    If you were factually accurate regarding President Trump's actions vis a vis national emergencies in his first administration, then how could Americans have OVERWHELMINGLY voted for President Trump in 2024?? He WON the POPULAR VOTE by a CONSIDERABLY MARGIN, for christ's sake!!!

    So, isn't it MORE likely that your assessment is colored by your ideology and that President Trump was NOT incompetent as you claim him to be.

    Is that not possible??

  19. [19] 
    Michale wrote:

    President Donald Trump - A NEW HOPE

    President Joe Biden - THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

    President Donald Trump - THE RETURN OF THE JEDI

    :D

  20. [20] 
    Michale wrote:

    CW,

    The people who supported Trump were not ready to be talked out of doing so, to be blunt.

    And the people who are hysterical about their Trump/America Hate are ALSO not ready to be talked out of it.

    So what's yer point???

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    Flash Flood Warnings Issued As Liberal Tears Continue To Soak Nation

    U.S. - The National Weather Service has issue has issued widespread flash flood warnings across America as liberal tears continue to pour down unabated, increasing in severity after Karen Handel's victory over Jon Ossoff in the race for Georgia's 6th Congressional District.

    "We advise all citizens to disconnect electrical appliances, bring outdoor furniture inside, and move all important indoor items to the top floor of your home to avoid flood damage," a NWS spokesman said. "Also, avoid walking or driving through streams of tears, as their power can be deceiving - just six inches of moving tears can knock you down, and only one foot can sweep a vehicle away."

    "People in especially hard-hit areas should move to higher ground immediately and evacuate the area if necessary," he added.

    At publishing time, due to media rumors that Hillary Clinton is considering another White House run while Chelsea Clinton is being groomed for a future in politics, the NWS spokesman was predicting "no end in sight" to the downpours.
    https://babylonbee.com/news/flash-flood-warnings-issued-liberal-tears-continue-soak-nation

    :D

  22. [22] 
    Elizabeth Miller wrote:

    Michale,

    What precisely did Biden ever say about wishing to be a one-term president? Remember, transition doesn't mean one-term.

  23. [23] 
    Michale wrote:

    Liz,

    It wasn't what Biden said..

    It was what numerous Biden reps said and what Biden did not deny..

    "“If Biden is elected he’s going to be 82 years old in four years and he won’t be running for reelection.”

    And many many similar other quotes..

    It was repeatedly stated and it was never denied by Biden..

    And, as you well know..

    "Silence Gives Assent"

    :D

  24. [24] 
    Kick wrote:

    Elizabeth Miller
    22

    What precisely did Biden ever say about wishing to be a one-term president? Remember, transition doesn't mean one-term.

    Although not your intended witness, I can factually answer that question in one word: Nothing.

    I will also add that Biden never made the pledge and also before he was elected specifically stated that he wasn't going to make that pledge.

    It's something the press invented based on sources they referred to as "anonymous advisers," and candidate Biden as well as his aides answered unequivocally:

    Joe Biden denies he is mulling a one-term pledge if elected president

    A senior adviser for Biden's campaign has also pushed back.

    By Molly Nagle
    December 11, 2019, 2:13 PM

    Former Vice President Joe Biden denied discussing with his campaign advisers whether he would only seek one term in office if elected president-- claims that were first published by POLITICO Wednesday.

    The report cited anonymous advisers to Biden who said there have been internal conversations about recent signals from the 77-year-old former vice president would only seek one term if elected in 2020.

    “No, I never have,” Biden said when asked by a reporter on Wednesday if those discussions were taking place. “I don’t have any plans on one term.”

    A senior adviser for Biden's campaign has also pushed back on the report, calling it “just not true.”

    Multiple quotes by Biden and his aides denying the claim repeatedly

    Anyone who states otherwise is simply sadly regurgitating lies and misinformation that was definitively make absolutely 100% clear by Biden himself long before he was elected in 2020.

    Just the facts. :)

  25. [25] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    It will be interesting to see how much was lies and how much of Trump's plans are real. Trump is obsessed with tariffs because it's one of the few leavers on the economy that the executive branch has. And even there it's supposed to be for emergency use only with congress having the real power over tariffs constitutionally. His steel tariffs were questionable at best. His current plans are likely completely against the written law. Will the repubs in congress have spine to hold him accountable? Then will Musk get to do a "Twitter" on the federal government? Tariffs, mass unemployment from cutting the federal government and rounding up illegal immigrants. Dude has 18 months to convince the American people the economy is better otherwise they likely lose both houses of congress. A likely recession for those three policies at once is not going to do that. Companies are already starting to hoard foreign made parts in preparation.

    Then of course, as Chris mentioned, how long before Vance sticks the dagger in? He has the personality similar to DeSantis but with even more lying. Doubt he will get far in a primary, this might be Thiel's only chance to get what he paid for...

  26. [26] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    So, isn't it MORE likely that your assessment is colored by your ideology and that President Trump was NOT incompetent...

    nope. hundreds of thousands of corpses don't lie. people who otherwise might have lived are still dead, and there's ample video evidence of the things donald said and did to help make them dead.

    donald was re-elected because he's a talented showman with no qualms about gaslighting the whole country. the electorate has a very short memory, and always has, which is why i suggested constant reminders of what 2020 was actually like, rather than all that ridiculousness about fascism and fraud. irrespective of whether or not those criticisms were true, they were not good politics.

    JL

    p.s. you got those star wars episodes WAY out of order.
    trump's first term is the phantom menace.
    biden's term is attack of the clones.
    trump's third term is revenge of the sith.

    we're still waiting on a new hope, whoever it might be.

  27. [27] 
    nypoet22 wrote:
  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    nope. hundreds of thousands of corpses don't lie. people who otherwise might have lived are still dead, and there's ample video evidence of the things donald said and did to help make them dead.

    No.

    What we have is YOUR interpretation of the ample video evidence..

    But everyone knows how biased the DEMOCRAT interpretation is, so it's useless as actual factual information..

    donald was re-elected because he's a talented showman with no qualms about gaslighting the whole country.

    You HONESTLY believe you can factually claim the motivations of over 72 MILLION American voters!??

    The fact that you think you know that should be an indication of how far off the reservation you are..

    Bashi,

    You have been completely and utter WRONG. Why should anyone think you have a single shred of credibility??

  29. [29] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    You HONESTLY believe you can factually claim the motivations of over 72 MILLION American voters!??

    Why not? You just did a couple sentences above...

  30. [30] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    You have been completely and utter WRONG

    Not sure what an "utter" wrong is but what specifically have I got wrong?

  31. [31] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    25

    Yes, sir... all that.

    Will the repubs in congress have spine to hold him accountable?

    Senate? I can name (maybe) two, one of which is up for reelection in 2026 unless she and her spine retires.
    House? I would imagine they won't have enough votes to do just anything they desire without the help of Democrats, making Jeffries (still) the de facto decider in the House.

    Then will Musk get to do a "Twitter" on the federal government?

    You mean Musk's reward, the not a ginormous (but definitely total) conflict of interest which he refers to as the Department of Government Efficiency where Musk has said he wants to cut two trillion dollars in government spending and stated that half of all government agencies are unnecessary? Do you think Musk will be looking to cut his own government payouts or looking to cut agencies that regulate Musk and companies? Rhetorical question.

    A likely recession for those three policies at once is not going to do that. Companies are already starting to hoard foreign made parts in preparation.

    And check the bond markets. Cha-ching.

    Then of course, as Chris mentioned, how long before Vance sticks the dagger in?

    But it sounds all conspiracy theory-ish with the use of the term "Vance" rather than the Heritage Foundation that wields the double-edged sword.

    He has the personality similar to DeSantis but with even more lying. Doubt he will get far in a primary, this might be Thiel's only chance to get what he paid for...

    Wonder how long the non-college-educated white voters who place an outsized emphasis on culture-war issues will figure out they've been played for fools while the billionaire elites they've elected laugh all the way to the bank.

  32. [32] 
    Kick wrote:

    nypoet22
    26

    Very well said. :)

  33. [33] 
    Kick wrote:

    EDIT TO CLARIFY [31]

    Wonder how long it'll take the non-college-educated white voters who place an outsized emphasis on culture-war issues to figure out they've been played for fools while the billionaire elites they've elected laugh all the way to the bank.

  34. [34] 
    Michale wrote:

    You people STILL can't get past ya'all's hysterical and utterly moronic wishcasting..

    Vance is going to 25th President-Elect Trump!!???

    Do you guys HERE yerselves!!??

    Ya'all are completely and utterly delusional..

    So I guess the completely and utterly rational option of ya'all taking a good long look in the mirror and asking why patriotic Americans have abandoned you and your Democrats is completely out of the question, eh?? :eyeroll:

    Yunno, there is ONE possibility that fits ALL the facts and completely satisfies Occam's Razor....

    Democrats are hated by Americans who love this country..

    Oh, by the bi...

    Democrats are getting their American hating asses handed to them in the Senate.. :D

    President-Elect Trump's GOP took FOUR seats!!!!

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    When Democrats lose, they don't mess around and lose BIG TIME!!! :D

    Oh, and congrats, Bashi… Your only response to the facts is a typo lame..

    It's no wonder you morons are always wrong..

    This is where you come back and claim "I never said Harris was going to win!!"

    Yea.. And neither did anyone else here.. :eyeroll: How did you get to be so stoopid, eh??

    Oh yea.. You live in Portland OR... Too many legalized drugs, eh.. Another druggie luser like Caddy...

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    END OF WATCH

    Police Officer Evan Dunn
    Golden Police Department, Colorado
    End of Watch: Wednesday, November 6, 2024

    And remind the few..
    When ill of us they speak...
    That we are all that stands between...
    The monsters and the weak...

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/13839e8d10b9303c8d9aee50576e15b15f4844be91d15073a21097a85b780c50.jpg

  36. [36] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    So, you can't back your shit up so you toss weak and feeble insults. A true Trumper...

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bashi,

    I can't back up my shit??

    What "shit" is that?? The "shit" where I called it dead on ballz accurate that Biden wasn't going to finish the election??

    Oh no.. Wait... That "shit" was COMPLETELY backed up!! :D

    Maybe you mean the "shit" where I called that CW was dreading so much that he couldn't write the traditional Halloween Nightmares??

    Well, THAT can't be the "shit" yer talking about because THAT ALSO was completely backed up...

    Oh.. OK.. You MUST mean the "shit" where I said that President Trump was going to DEMOLISH Harris and NO BALLZ Walz..

    Well, bad luck for you, son..

    Because THAT too was COMPLETELY and UTTERLY backed up..

    Face reality, son... You haven't got a single correct fact in MONTHS!!!

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  38. [38] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    What are you blabbing on about? You made specific accusations and can't back them. Your prepubescent hyperbole is just distraction to that fact...

  39. [39] 
    Michale wrote:

    Of course you would play stoopid.. Oh wait.. Yer not PLAYING stoopid... :eyeroll:

    Lay off the crack, Bashi.. I know.. I know... The moronic city you live in legalized all illegal drugs..

    But here's a smart tip for you, son... You don't stay away from drugs because they are illegal.. You stay away from drugs because they rot your brain... Apparently yer brain is rot'ed all away.. :eyeroll:

    I made 3 specific predictions based on the FACTS...

    And those predictions came to pass..

    You lost, Bashi.. Yer Democrats lost the White House, yer Democrats lost the Senate and they failed to get the House..

    Yer Democrats are lusers six ways from Sunday... And YOU are a luser for voting for Democrats...

    :eyeroll:

  40. [40] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Dude, lay off the booze, you got swiss cheese brain at this point. You said "You have been completely and utter WRONG". About what? I am quite right about your inability to use links to back up the text you post or the arguments you make. What specifically am I wrong about?

    As for "lusers" I think you will find that you fit the classic definition. Now, if we are talking loser, then does that make you a loser for all times you called it wrong? Or are your weird made up rules unidirectional?

  41. [41] 
    Kick wrote:

    BashiBazouk
    40

    What specifically am I wrong about?

    I think the problem is you're dead-on accurate. If he can't refute factual information, he routinely resorts to multiple boxes containing the personal attacking of commenters... the same-old same-old repetitive lame commentary that qualifies as nothing beyond redundant superfluous trolling and bullshit... what I routinely refer to as "trollshit."

    Trying to refute anything with actual debate versus the tired redundant hatred he routinely displays would necessitate commentary beyond these type of "trollshit" postings on permanent loop:

    How did you get to be so stoopid, eh??

    Oh yea.. You live in Hastings, FL... Too many legalized drugs, eh.. Another druggie luser...

    Quoting his idea of debate -- with the obvious substitution of his own location in the trailer swamps -- a veritable cornucopia of unquenchable neediness for praise and recognition that no amount of that type redundant dialogue could ever fill.

    We could query if he's looking for a medal or a chest to pin it (looking at you, Canada), but then he's posted his photograph with pendulous man boobs that hereinafter renders it unnecessary. :)

  42. [42] 
    MtnCaddy wrote:

    Kick I really appreciate the information you bring to Weigantia!

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