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Droning On And On

[ Posted Wednesday, December 18th, 2024 – 17:28 UTC ]

It must be a slow news month. That's the obvious explanation. But then "obvious explanations" aren't exactly newsworthy, or maybe just not entertaining enough, perhaps. It's much more fun to present all kinds of wild theories, isn't it? Which, again, is the obvious explanation for why the mainstream media keeps (pun definitely intended) droning on and on.

The story began last month in New Jersey, which was rather famously the setting for the Orson Welles 1938 radio adaptation of the H.G. Wells classic The War Of The Worlds. Alien spaceships had landed in the Garden State, and mankind was only saved in the end by the seasonal flu. A great story, a chilling adaptation of it, and a whole lot of people totally freaked out when they heard it (many of whom missed the introduction where it was explained that this was a fictional broadcast). It probably didn't help that it aired on Hallowe'en.

In any case, almost nine decades later, a swarm of people began reporting unusual drone activity in the skies over New Jersey. Cellphone videos were posted to social media. And then the national media picked up the story and ran with it.

Which still hasn't abated, astonishingly enough, even though there really isn't much new to say about what's going on other than: "Nobody really knows what's going on." You'd think that would mean the story would eventually die down on its own as the media moved on to some other distraction, but this one seems to have some staying power.

As I said, it must be a slow month for news.

Now look -- I hate to be a spoilsport and rain all over everyone's drone excitement, I really do. I'd love to hear solid evidence that aliens are visiting humanity and that we're not alone in the universe, but somehow don't really expect this outburst of hysteria is apt to produce such a thing.

Think hysteria is too strong a word? Well, we've already had one Republican member of Congress state that he thinks there's an "Iranian mothership" somewhere off the coast launching drones at American soil. He appears to be basing this suspicion on... well... nothing more than his overactive imagination.

Panics about lights or objects in the sky are nothing new, of course. The flying saucer craze of the 1950s came and went, and pop culture sometimes revives the subject (and the reports of such objects) every so often (in the late 1970s and early 1980s, Close Encounters Of The Third Kind and E.T. had a big impact). Once the idea of unidentified flying objects (or as the military likes to now call them, "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena") is planted in the public's consciousness, everyone starts looking up and every light in the sky is suspect.

That's not to say that something weird may be happening, of course. But the more-mundane explanation is that some drone activity (probably totally benign) in New Jersey was noticed by some people, they reported it (and/or took videos of it), and then the whole thing took on a life of its own. Whatever the original explanation was, what almost certainly happened next were two parallel things: (1) more people started looking up, and: (2) more people decided it was a dandy time to take their drone out for a jaunt, just to feed the panic and join in on the fun.

As with any eyewitness reports -- especially of objects in the sky -- much of it is likely explained by routine activity. A whole bunch of the drone sightings seem to have occurred on the flight paths to landing at nearby airports -- where you'd expect to see low-flying objects, even at night. Planes and helicopters have flashing lights on them, after all, and judging distance and size when observing from the ground is a tough thing for anyone without training to accurately do.

And then there's human nature. How many teenagers decided to freak their town out by flying their hobby drones at night? The answer to that is unknown, but I'd bet the farm it isn't "zero." Or how many mischief-minded adults decided to do the same thing? The copycat aspect is probably a powerful motivator, especially seeing as how the drone sightings quickly spread and have now been reported as far away as western Ohio. How many of these folks filmed their own drones and then uploaded the video to social media to get in on the fun?

We're now in full-blown panic mode over the whole thing. Government officials have even suggested that maybe shooting these objects down might be the solution. How long is it going to take before some trigger-happy sheriff's deputy starts blasting away at one? On the national level, politicians are either clamoring for answers or claiming the government already knows full well what is going on. This has now risen to the level of both Donald Trump and the sitting president commenting on the subject.

The more-likely answer is that the government and the military don't really have a clear picture of what is going on out there. For the most part, drones are not tracked by radar, since most of them are too small and fly too low and slow to be detected (radar systems also routinely ignore "blips" that mostly turn out to be birds or flocks of birds). Even if the public thinks it'd be an easy job to track every object in the skies (due to watching science-fiction shows where all it takes is a flick of a switch to get real-time satellite imagery of just about anything anywhere), it really isn't all that easy to do.

The media has gone along for the ride, so to speak. They've been hyping the story far beyond its actual news value -- most breathless updates now are of the "nobody really knows" type of commentary, with lots of hints of what it could be... maybe. In other words, most of the news coverage has been pure fact-free sensationalism, nothing more. Which we'll probably get some more of tonight, since President Joe Biden actually made an offhand comment or two about the whole frenzy.

I do realize it's a lot more fun to ignore Occam's razor and wildly speculate. Flying saucer crazes are cyclic -- there's always going to be another one sooner or later. As long as everyone doesn't get all trigger-happy out there, it's all mostly harmless good fun. Sooner or later, the media will get bored with the whole story and move on, and people will calm down a bit and come back out of panic mode.

Either that, or aliens will land on the National Mall and emerge to reveal themselves to humankind, of course. Hey, it could happen... right?

-- Chris Weigant

 

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66 Comments on “Droning On And On”

  1. [1] 
    John M from Ct. wrote:

    I admit I've been ignoring this story for the past week or two. There seems to be no news actually associated with the entire thing.

    I like your note that this seems to be a cyclical thing involving flying saucers, with another panic every thirty years or so.

  2. [2] 
    Mezzomamma wrote:

    The bright light on the horizon--and it was big, bright and beautiful--was Venus the morning star, closer to Earth than it had been for a few centuries. I looked for it early every morning. Spectacular, and a more understandable mistake, really, than filming yourself pointing to the constellation Orion. Some of the moving ones turned out to be ingenious kids and their copycats--it seems you can create a hot air balloon with household items including candles and freak out your neighbours. In my part of So Cal, the police generally phoned Cal Tech to check on student pranks first whenever the public reported something wierd.

  3. [3] 
    Mezzomamma wrote:

    Sorry, somehow lost the first part of this in posting.

    I was referencing a scare in the early 70s, when lots of early risers reported a big bright light on the horizon to the police, and there was a spate of 'UFO' sightings of large objects with lights moving at high speeds in residential areas.

  4. [4] 
    Michale wrote:

    It's not really a slow news cycle..

    The problem for ya'all is that there is simply no news that fits ya'all's Subjective Reality of PTDS and Trump/America hate.. :D

    For example, The Hill has a great article on why Headboard Harris actually lost the election..

    The article starts out in a place ya'all should be VERY familiar with.. :D

    As Democrats debate their next steps and Vice President Kamala Harris contemplates her political future, a fundamental question arises: Did Harris ever truly have a chance to win?

    Increasingly, it seems that the answer is no.

    Headboard Harris NEVER really had a chance to win..

    Now, where have ya'all heard THAT before??? :D OH yea, that's right.. Here in Weigantia...

    Ya'all's SUBJECTIVE REALITY (IE ya'all's "truth") simply couldn't compete with my OBJECTIVE REALITY (the actual FACTS) that Headboard Harris simply could not win.. It was a factual (IE OBJECTIVE REALITY) point that Harris simply could not have won.. It was impossible..

    Had ya'all simply acknowledged this objective reality.. this FACT.. Ya'all wouldn't be ingesting so much crow and sour grapes in the here and now.. :D

    0129

  5. [5] 
    Michale wrote:

    Now, to address some old business...

    Liz,

    JL,

    }}}}Biggest Government Waste - the Hunter Biden investigation.{{{{{

    You meant the Trump investigations, right?

    Of course that's what JL means..

    I mean it's OBVIOUS to anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together that all the lawfare persecutions against President ELECT Trump were not only very VERY expensive in terms of outright cash outlay...

    But they were ALSO very VERY expensive in terms of the political campaign..

    All the lawfare persecutions against a completely innocent man cost Democrats a LOT in the sense, they were giving President Trump all the FREE and AWESOME media exposure that is possible to give..

    Democrats proved to Americans day after day that President Trump was not only completely and unequivocally INNOCENT of all criminal charges and accusations, but the Democrat lawfare persecutions ALSO cemented in the minds of the VAST MAJORITY of American voters that President Trump was on THEIR side.. That President Trump was fighting for Everyday Patriotic Americans..

    So, yes. The Democrats lawfare persecutions against President Trump was the biggest government waste because it brought about the very thing that Democrats were trying to prevent.. :D

    While it's OBJECTIVE REALITY (IE FACT) that Harris would have lost anyways, it might have been closer of a race if Democrats had not used lawfare to persecute an innocent man...

    0130

  6. [6] 
    Michale wrote:

    Russ,

    Your IGNORANCE and lies are STILL astounding..

    For the last time: I have never claimed to have been employed as a law enforcement officer at any time! That is your lie! I worked for years as an E911 call receiver.

    You DO realize that E911 operators are part and parcel to law enforcement agencies, right??

    You DO realize that E911 operators are considered FIRST RESPONDERS, right?? As a matter of fact, E911 Operators are the FIRST of the FIRST RESPONDERS..

    Of course you are ignorant of that.. Because you never worked in any LEO agency and, even if you did, you were shit-canned for being too incompetent..

    I am married to the Chief of Police for my town who has over 20 years in law enforcement. You are a disgrace!

    Says the scumbag who had this alleged "hubby" :eyeroll: run my name thru NCIS checks to try and dig up dirt on me because I was always kicking your ass here in Weigantia..

    Talk about being a disgrace.. If even what you claim is factually accurate, which you have never proven to be factually accurate, your actions and your dirty cop's actions prove how much of a disgrace you scumbags really are..

    Do you know what “commissioned” even means??? It means that whoever wants you to work for them is willing to pay for educating you so that you may meet their training requirements.

    Your LEO IGNORANCE STILL continues to amaze me...

    What you describe is not COMMISSION but is actually called CERTIFIED....

    Which doesn't change the FACT that LEOs are SWORN.. Not COMMISSIONED..

    Yer ignorance knows no depths..

    Well that makes perfect sense! Seeing how you had absolutely ZERO experience in law enforcement, you would not have listed anything

    What part of I simply put ALL of my 2 and a half decades of LEO experience on my resume and I passed both my background checks AND Polygraph with flying colors.. do you fail to comprehend???

    Face reality, Russ.. You were caught in a whole mess of lies and now you show up once a week after getting shitcanned for incompetence and having to work at McDonalds and try to vainly save face..

    Every one of your other scumbag friends have left Weigantia... Why don't you take the hint and leave as well.. :eyeroll:

    You are an idiot! How do you answer E911 calls on the road? You are not trained in law enforcement!

    Actually, I am.. I had received my POST (Peace Officer Standards of Training) certification when I first worked as an LEO.

    Of course, it's expired so yes I will have to go thru the Academy again, once my COMM obligation is met.. But that's a mere formality.

    Within the next year, I'll be a *SWORN* police officer again... :D

    Face the OBJECTIVE REALITY, Russ.. Yer nothing but a failed cop groupie who was too stoopid to be a REAL cop...

    Just a scumbag failure all the way around..

    "Live with that.."
    -Commander Jo Galloway, A FEW GOOD MEN

    0131

    0131

  7. [7] 
    Michale wrote:

    JL,

    the only thing you've proven is that you (still) don't know what you don't know. objective reality is the world as it would exist if there were no humans to say what anything means. what you guys in the Trump camp have (in fact) done is taken the language of objectivity and applied it subjectively, to make it appear as if everything were what used to be called "subjective," essentially redefining what "is" is, in your own mind.

    everybody else here just sort of rolls their eyes and presumes you're trying to "win" but i know different. I have some very smart friends who have chosen to inhabit your universe, and who are significantly better than you are at defending it. human rules change, but no matter how clever they are, they can't change the laws of physics, and it's disheartening to see them (and you) try.

    "Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"
    -Principal, BILLY MADISON

    :D

    I am guess you were 3 sheets to the win, or high as a kite, when you posted the above, so I am not going to even bother trying to interpret what you really meant..

    Suffice it to say, the FACTS... The objective reality stands..

    Ya'all were WRONG on EVERY call ya'all ever made with regards to Headboard Harris and her UBER NUCLEAR ROUT SHELLACKING that was her 2024 campaign..

    Ya'all's SUBJECTIVE REALITY that Harris could actually win the election was proven completely and utterly false by the FACTS.... the objective reality... of the reality of the here and now...

    Subjective Reality = your "truth"...

    Objective Reality = the FACTS....

    I know, I know.. You Democrats just LOVE to change the definitions of words to fit your agendas.. Ya'all always have loved to do that.. Ya'all always will love to do that..

    But Americans aren't buying Democrat BS anymore.. They are not being taken in by ya'all's Trump/America hate and PTDS..

    It's a brave new world and there's a new sheriff in town... :D

    I have some very smart friends who have chosen to inhabit your universe, and who are significantly better than you are at defending it.

    Yes, yes, JL... You have a LOT of support in email.. :D :eyeroll:

    Of course, if this were factually accurate, the ONLY rational response would be to get these imaginary friends here in Weigantia and let them tell me themselves how big of President ELECTTrump supporters they really are.. :D

    Reminds me of the time Russ claimed to have a "friend" who said I was an incel even though I have been married to the same beautiful woman for going on 50 years now... :D

    If Russ REALLY had that "friend" she must be pretty stoopid and ignorant (typical Democrat) to not know what the definition of 'incel' is.. :D

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    In any case, the FACTS are clear.. Headboard Harris never had a chance to actually win the election. Her own campaign leaders has stated this for the record as the objective reality. At NO TIME during the election was Headboard Harris ***EVER*** polling above President Trump...

    MOVING ON... :D

    0132

  8. [8] 
    Michale wrote:

    As far as the current commentary..

    This is the most STOOPIDEST thing ever to come out of the Basement Biden administration..

    And considering the stoopidity of the Basement Biden administration, this does say a LOT... :D

    "These things are not a threat. We have no idea what they are, but they are not a threat.."
    -Basement Biden Administration

    If Basement Biden is ignorance about what they are, how can they determine that they are not a threat??

    :eyeroll:

    This is simply another example of the senility and dementia-riddled actions of the Basement Biden Administration..

    Obviously Basement Biden is too dementia riddled and senile to be in charge any more...

    I can't wait til President Trump takes the office again. THEN we are going to find out how bad things really were during The Senile Years of the Basement Biden administration..

    As far as the phenomena themselves.. I had 3 things on my bucket list...

    1. First Contact
    2. Global Warming exposed as a hoax
    3. Becoming a sworn LEO again

    The 2nd has happened.. The 3rd will happen within the next year...

    All that's left is First Contact..

    COM'ON BABY, GIMME THAT TRIFECTA!!!! :D

    0133

  9. [9] 
    Michale wrote:

    So... Let's discuss how Left Wing Propaganda sites and Tech Execs are kow-towing to President ELECT Trump and surrendering to President ELECT Trump left and right.. :D

    Won't that be a FUN discussion!!??? :D

    Let's start off with ABC/DISNEY/STEPHANOPOWUSSIE...

    Boy oh boy, did ABC and Stephenopowussie have to eat some heaping helpings of crow, eh!? :D

    Especially when the FACTS (yunno... Objective Reality) had Wussy's Executive Producer telling Georgie Boy NOT to use the word "rape" at all because it was not factually accurate and would be considered defaming in a court of law...

    Wussy Georgie thought he knew better and now ABC is not only 16 MILLION dollars poorer, but ABC/DISNEY is going to fund President Trump's library!!

    Oh the humiliation!!! The SHAME that ABC/DISNEY is enduring.. :D

    And lets heap some MORE humiliation on the Wussy and the Mouse House... They were FORCED to apologize to President Trump!!! :D

    This is a POPCORN worthy event!! :D AT LEAST deserving of an entire commentary, no? :D

    Sources inside ABC are reporting they are calling the Wussy "Furious George" behind his back!!!

    BBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    And it gets even better!!!

    Zuckerberg and Bezos have all made trips to the Winter White House to bend the knee and kiss the ring.. :D

    Both have promised MILLIONS of dollars to fund President ELECT Trump's inauguration... :D

    I mean, com'on!! In the dictionary under INSULT TO INJURY, there is a picture of Democrats having to watch as all their supposed "allies" and "water carriers" kow tow to, bend the knee to and kiss President ELECT Trump's ring...

    The abject humiliation must be too much to bear, eh?? :D

    But for real patriotic Americans... It's a Popcorn Worthy event!!! :D

    0134

  10. [10] 
    Michale wrote:

    And now let's touch on 3 topics..

    How President ELECT Trump is the de-facto POTUS in the here and now, how President ELECT Trump totally decimated the Trudeau progressive administration of Canada and how Token DEI Headboard Has Been Hooker Harris is destined for political oblivion...

    I was so glad that Harris gave that speech today because ever since Election Day, I've had such joy in my heart, to paraphrase Joe Biden. And now I was reminded once again today, watching Kamala Harris, why I have so much joy. I think everyone I talk to who's really thrilled by President Trump, and we talk about how we would feel right now if Kamala had actually won. And she reminded us again today what a total, utter disaster that would have been. But I want to go a step further, I did write a piece, which is basically describing the de-facto president, because it's clear, and if you watch day by day, President Trump both in his international relations, I mean, he may have broken Trudeau's government in the last three days because Trudeau's strongest ally resigned in disgust at how Trudeau had caved in to Trump. And literally, I think Trudeau may lose a vote of confidence in Canada.
    He clearly, when he went to Notre Dame, was treated in Paris as, in fact, the president. He got a presidential welcome. He met with 82 government leaders from around the world. He kept meeting with key people and I think that President Trump is already beginning to have a direct impact. In fact, even Disney has begun to drop various woke things from their planned presentations, I think, in response to this. So this is one of the most amazing transitions I've seen as a historian. I don't remember anything that was quite this decisive in the opening weeks after an election and before inauguration.

    -Newt Gingrich

    Given the Presidential Vacuum that is the Basement Biden administration, it's gratifying to see President ELECT Trump take the reins of government...

    It's nice to know we actually have a COMPETENT man in charge even before 20 Jan 2025... Basement Biden is obviously NOT up to the task and Democrats are too busy licking all their wounds to be ANY kind of effective leader..

    Liz, this is your neck of the woods.. What's yer take on President ELECT Trump kicking the shit outta Trudeau??

    Headboard Harris has made a couple speeches. One sober and one either drunk as a kite or high as a skunk...

    Both of the speeches illustrated quite perfectly exactly how Americans and America dodged as HUGE bullet. Had ZERO CHARISMA Headboard Harris actually won the election!? Oh gods, the results would have been too terrible to imagine!!

    If anyone has ever doubted that President ELECT Trump has learned a LOT of lessons from his first term as POTUS, the AMAZING and DECISIVE post-election per-inauguration actions of President ELECT Trump would dispel any such doubts..

    President ELECT Trump is kicking Democrats ass all over the country and even beyond the borders of America...

    It's a GREAT time to be a patriotic American!! :D And a very VERY bad time to be a Trump/America hater PTDS suffering Democrat... :D

    0135

  11. [11] 
    Michale wrote:

    OK OK... I know ya'all are reeling... :D

    I'll give ya'all a bit to recover.. :D

    Fortunately for ya'all, it's my long week so I am working this 3-day weekend..

    But we have a lot more fun and excitement to get to, so stay tuned... :D

    0136

  12. [12] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Michale,

    I thought you voted for Trump. Looks like Old Musky boy bought his way in to a shadow presidency. Taking the lead on a government shutdown and threatening to fully fund opponents to primary any righties who get in the way. Do you actually support this drug addled bozo?

  13. [13] 
    Michale wrote:

    And President ELECT Trump wins again!!!! :D

    Georgia appeals court disqualifies DA Fani Willis from Trump election interference case

    The court ruled Willis and her office have 'no authority to proceed'

    A Georgia court of appeals disqualified Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis from prosecuting President-elect Trump in his election interference case on Thursday.

    And ANOTHER President ELECT Lawfare persecution case goes down in flames.. :D

    While the case hasn't been fully dismissed YET, it's only a matter of time before ANOTHER lawfare persecution dies an ignoble death...

    It's uncanny.. In EVERY WAY possible Trump/America hating Democrats suffering from PTDS are losing..

    Losing in EVERY WAY imaginable!!! :D

    President Trump was wrong...

    Patriotic Americans are ***NOT*** getting tired of winning!!! :D

    This is what happens when Democrats persecute a completely and 100% INNOCENT man...

    0137

  14. [14] 
    Michale wrote:

    And Bashi shows up with his sour grapes and crow meal... :D

    President ELECT Trump has given Musk the green light to take the lead on budgetary matters..

    Why such a sore luser, Bashi??

    Ya'all lost.. Quit yer whining and crying... :D

    0138

  15. [15] 
    Michale wrote:

    A Never Trumper at the NY SLIMES has finally seen the light!!! :D

    Done With Never Trump

    It’s been more than nine years since I first denounced Donald Trump as a “loudmouth vulgarian appealing to quieter vulgarians.” I’ve called myself a Never Trump conservative ever since, even when I agreed with his policies from time to time. I also opposed him throughout his run this year.

    Could his second term be as bad as his most fervent critics fear? Yes. Is it time to drop the heavy moralizing and incessant doomsaying that typified so much of the Never Trump movement — and that rendered it politically impotent and frequently obtuse? Yes, please.

    Who, and what, is Trump? He’s a man and the symbol of a movement. The man is crass but charismatic, ignorant but intuitive, dishonest but authentic. The movement is patriotic — and angry.

    It’s Trump’s sulfurous contempt for that elite — his refusal to be shaped by their norms or shamed by their scorn and his willingness to call out their hypocrisy — that makes him a hero to his followers. Cases in point: How come so many who denounce Trump as a sexual predator were, 20 years earlier, Bill Clinton’s steadfast defenders? Why were the same people who demanded investigations into every corner of the Trump family’s business dealings so incurious about the Biden family’s dealings, like the curiously high prices for Hunter’s paintings?
    -Bret Stephens, NY SLIMES

    Trump/America haters and Democrat PTDS sufferers never understood the OBJECTIVE REALITY of President Trump and America in the here and now..

    Democrats were simply WRONG about everything. And to add insult to their injuries, they simply CAN'T admit it.. Despite the OVERWHELMING FACTS and OBJECTIVE REALITY that has proven over and over and over and over again how wrong they really are...

    The best thing that Democrats could do right now is to board the Trump Train and actually HELP President Trump in making America great again..

    But, of course, we all know that Democrats will never do that because they are incapable of looking in the mirror and seeing OBJECTIVE REALITY for what it is...

    Democrats are the CAUSE of all the problems facing this great country...

    0139

  16. [16] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Leading with the ad hominems?

    It's a noticed trend that all you Trumpers don't want to talk about the incoming administration and the clown car of incompetents and fruit cakes.

    Your echo chamber of a news source didn't mention in Trump's first news conference that he boasted: "I won youth by 34 points and there are those that say that TikTok has something to do with that." Harris won the youth vote by 51%. Trump did better but "34 points" is either a blatant lie or dementia. Which is it?

  17. [17] 
    Michale wrote:

    Hugh Hewitt has a GREAT column over at Fox News that really crystalizes the Democrat dilemma...

    Morning Glory: How long will Democrats' exile last?

    It depends on when Democrats tell their left flank to shut up and sit down.
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/morning-glory-how-long-democrats-exile-last

    That's it in a nutshell...

    Democrats need to tell their Left Fringe/Weigantian Democrats to sit down, shut the hell up and to get with the AMERICA FIRST program..

    Until THAT happens, Democrats will be the perpetual minority Party for at least the rest of MY life.. :D

    0140

  18. [18] 
    Michale wrote:

    Nope, Bashi...

    Just stating the FACTS...

    Your Token DEI Hire Headboard Has Been Hooker Harris had her ass handed to her..

    President Trump WON THE POPULAR VOTE by a considerably GREAT margin... :D

    Ooooo the SHAME ya'all must be feeling right now.. :D

    0141

  19. [19] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    And a merry fucking Christmas to all the federal employees who won't get paid until February. Do you really support not doing the basic function of government for purely reasons of power and control?

  20. [20] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Michale [18]

    Ah, yes, your subjective reality is showing. The actual numbers show one of the closer races in this countries history...

  21. [21] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yes, I Bashi..

    I know your Democrat Water Carrier propaganda sites are telling you that it was a close race..

    You need to cling to that subjective reality to maintain your sanity..

    But the FACT is that President ELECT Trump swept **ALL** of the Swing State races..

    ALL OF THEM!!!

    President ELECT Trump won ***THE POPULAR VOTE*** by a considerably great margin... :D

    You would have to use a TON of lipstick (as you are doing) to make THIS pig even CLOSE to being presentable.. :D

    Face the objective reality, Bashit... YOU LOST...

    YOU HAD YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU!! :D

    And thank you for your concession that *MY* definition of OBJECTIVE/SUBJECTIVE Reality carries the day...

    "Thank you for your co-operation"
    -Black Widow, AVENGERS

    :D

    0142

  22. [22] 
    Michale wrote:

    And a merry fucking Christmas to all the federal employees who won't get paid until February.

    Demon Rats had PLENTY of time to get things done and fix things..

    But they left a senile, dementia-riddled fool in charge and this is what happens...

    You Demon Rats have only yerselves to blame... :D

    0143

  23. [23] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    1.5% is a "considerably great margin"? I see why you need the ":D"s...

    But they left a senile, dementia-riddled fool in charge and this is what happens...

    That's not a nice way to talk about the president elect.

  24. [24] 
    Michale wrote:

    Is Woke Losing?

    The battle with Woke will and must continue until champions of authentic freedom have defeated the 'culture of repudiation.'

    There is much evidence to suggest that modern democracy, and with it modern political consciousness more broadly, is inclined to endless self-radicalization. Wokeness is only the latest manifestation of what Eric Voegelin called “modernity without restraint.” As the French scholar Jean-François Brunstein has written in a fine book on the subject, Wokeness is a secular religion born in the universities, one that sees the Western democracies as “systematically” sexist, racist, and colonialist and therefore as illicit and beyond redemption. As a result, the Woke show no tolerance toward those who resist its identification of any and all inequalities with “discrimination” and who oppose its efforts to remake human nature according to the requirements of gender theory. As Braunstein aptly puts it, Wokeness inevitably culminates in a dictatorship of a crudely defined “social justice.”

    Tocqueville already saw this dynamic in the 1830s when writing about America in the context of an unfolding “democratic revolution” with no clear end in sight. Tocqueville understood that left to themselves, the democratic and egalitarian impulses tended not to respect any limits but were of the nature to run roughshod over natural talents and the “diverse faculties” (as they were called in Federalist #10) inherent in human nature.
    https://www.civitasinstitute.org/research/is-woke-losing

    Beyond the ZERO CHARISMA No Talent Incompetent Headboard Harris campaign, the biggest reason for the Uber Nuclear Shellacking For Democrats that was the 2024 election season.... Woke stand as a HUGE reason why Democrats were so completely and utterly decimated..

    I mean, HONESTLY..

    How can ANY human being with more than 2 brain cells to rub together POSSIBLY think that the Democrat WOKE activism was the best way to earn Americans' votes??

    It can be argued that, in a certain regard, the peak of wokeness occurred during the summer of 2020. Christopher Caldwell highlighted this in the Claremont Review of Books shortly after that tumultuous period, noting that the entire country was essentially engaged with social media, a platform characterized by ideological uniformity and a cohort of willfully ignorant young individuals, often lacking in liberal values—this scenario was unsustainable during the pandemic lockdowns. White liberals fell into a state of racial hysteria, perceiving a pervasive menace from violent white law enforcement officers. The call to “defund the police” gained traction, but the consequences of this ideological fervor were felt most acutely by the disadvantaged and those at risk, as many urban areas descended into a form of anarchy. It became a norm to extol the virtues of the radical elements within the Black Lives Matter movement, despite their overtly racist ideologies. Mainstream Republicans mostly remained muted, while the Democratic party openly aligned itself with a movement that portrayed the United States as fundamentally “structurally racist.” College students, lacking substantial education or understanding, asserted their authority to shun or belittle anyone who dared to question the prevailing ideological standards. In a notable address at Mount Rushmore on July 3, 2020, President Trump, despite being somewhat flawed, defended the fundamental integrity of the American mission. In contrast, Senator Mitt Romney, the epitome of a Republican “moderate,” joined forces with BLM supporters, while Never Trump proponents at The Bulwark stayed silent amid the chaos as our cities faced unrest and the nation experienced systemic upheaval.

    I recommend that Democrats in general and Weigantians in particular read the above essay as it will provide a LOT of insight into what NOT to do if one wants to win an election...

    :D

    0144

  25. [25] 
    Michale wrote:

    Ahh yes..

    The OLD I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I 3rd grade rebuttal...

    Apparently, I have over-taxed Bashit's mental capabilities (such as they are) and he is regressing to toddler mentality.. :eyeroll:

    Yer a luser, Bashit... You always have been.. You always will be.. :D

    0145

  26. [26] 
    Michale wrote:

    Democrat "science" strikes again.. :eyeroll:

    http://mfccfl.us/DemScience.jpg

    0146

  27. [27] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Well, you never answered the question: did Trump lie or does he have dementia?

  28. [28] 
    Michale wrote:

    Answer my question first..

    Are you a moronic druggie or are you just a moron??

    :eyeroll:

    In other news...

    Demon Rats knew as far back as the 2020 campaign that Basement Biden was senile and dementia riddled and had to be "handled"...

    How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge

    Aides kept meetings short and controlled access, top advisers acted as go-betweens and public interactions became more scripted.
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a839

    This moron simply CAN'T get out of office fast enough... :eyeroll:

    0147

  29. [29] 
    Michale wrote:

    Public engagement has unfolded something like this:

    "What are those clearly artificial, illuminated objects moving through the sky above us?"

    "Zro, ta smamzle rof tothabuaght ra bnuh."
    -Basement Biden/Headboard Harris Administration

    When the public sought further clarification, the response was:

    “Listen, we’ve already explained it – why do you keep probing?!? We’re investigating the matter, and rest assured, even though we assert we lack understanding, we are entirely confident there’s no danger.”

    All administrations struggle intensely as they approach their conclusion, especially when facing removal from power – they must conceal evidence, create distractions, and so on.

    The fact that Weigantians here actually BELIEVE what the Basement Biden/Headboard Harris administration is testament to how much subjective reality has taken hold with Democrats in general and Weigantians in particular... :D

    Ya'all better get on the Trump Train before it's too late.. :D

    0148

  30. [30] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    All you got to defend your guy is ad hominems? Pathetic.

    But if I follow your lead with the slurs against Biden/Harris it would be felonious insurrectionist senile demented old rapist Trump. With Musk pulling the strings I guess we can shorten it to vice president Trump...

  31. [31] 
    Michale wrote:

    All you got to defend your guy is ad hominems? Pathetic.

    That's really funny coming from one of the people who have been making personal attacks on President Trump since Jun of 2015..

    COMPLETELY without ANY facts whatsoever.. :D

    As the rest of your BS comment proves beyond any doubt..

    You lost, Bashit... You got your ass completely and 1000% handed to you.. :D

    Take a hit from the rest of your Weigantian Troll buddies who have left... :D

    0149

  32. [32] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Hilarious.

    Well, your gloat tour does prove one thing, we live so rent free in your head RFK Jr's brain worm is jealous...

  33. [33] 
    Michale wrote:

    Well, your gloat tour does prove one thing, we live so rent free in your head RFK Jr's brain worm is jealous...

    Says the moron who simply CAN'T resist reading each and every one of my comments religiously.. :D

    Once again, a Demon Rat accusing someone else of what they themselves are guilty of.. :D

    Yer a luser, Bashit... Always has been... Always will be.. :D

    But thanks for getting my comment count up.. It's going to be a really nice donation for CW... If you had even a SMIDGEN of integrity, you would match my donation..

    But, of course, you don't... :eyeroll:

    0150

  34. [34] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Actually you have become so repetitive that your posts get the bla bla bla scroll scroll scroll treatment. See what's at the end...

    Still, vice President Trump did say he won the youth vote. You said he doesn't lie, therefore he must be senile...

  35. [35] 
    Michale wrote:

    Once again.. Bashit spews a comment totally devoid of ANY fact or objective reality whatsoever.. :D

    But it gets me another comment and more $$$ for Weigantia... :D

    0151

  36. [36] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    the ONLY rational response would be to get these imaginary friends here in Weigantia

    my conservative friends are real. one is my colleague who is teaching science in the room next to me right now. one is my mentor in florida, a cuban-american who is among the very first people who taught me how to teach. i'm not going to insult them by suggesting they post here, but they know what i think of their opinions.

    JL

  37. [37] 
    Michale wrote:

    So yer gonna stick with yer subjective reality.. :D

    That's kewl.. It's important for you to have a rich fantasy life.. :D

    0152

  38. [38] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    I am guess you were 3 sheets to the win, or high as a kite, when you posted the above, so I am not going to even bother trying to interpret what you really meant..

    i was and am fully sober; haven't had any sort of adult beverage since last weekend. again, i count you as a friend of sorts, and reading your attempts to discuss facts and objectivity is like reading liz's attempts to discuss israel. in both cases it's nothing short of cringe-worthy for its utter lack of context, humility or self-awareness. regardless, you're entitled to be as ignorant as you wish, and i'm glad you didn't go the way of Herman Cain because of it.

    JL

  39. [39] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Are you saying that Vice President Trump did not boast he won the youth vote during his first press conference? Or are you just trying to dodge the whole thing because it proves you wrong?

    Interestingly enough he boasted he won the youth vote by 30 points on Meet the Press a week ago. Can't keep his numbers straight, sounds senile to me...

  40. [40] 
    Michale wrote:

    I may not have been very clear previously...

    It's not that I don't believe your Trump supporting friends exist... I mean, it's unlikely but still possible..

    If they DO exist, I am certain they would agree with me that President Trump is 100% innocent of all the crimes and accusations you hysterical Democrats accuse him of..

    I'll give you the no humility part..

    Why should I be humble?? I took a lot of shit from you people when I told ya'all (factually as it turned out) that Headboard Harris simply can't win...

    So, where does it say I should be humble?? Ya'all were completely and utterly WRONG about EVERYTHING..

    I even gave ya'all a chance to avoid all the gloating in the immediate aftermath of President Trump's awesome win...

    All ya'all had to do was show a little humility and accept the facts and reality, accept the OBJECTIVE REALITY of the here and now..

    But none of ya'all could do even that little low hanging fruit..

    So, congrats.. Ya'all got the Weigantia that ya'all begged for.. :D

    0153

  41. [41] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    lunch break is almost done, but i'll be back to check in later.

  42. [42] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    unlikely but still possible..

    i believe that's exactly what i said about donald winning 312 electoral votes, which is the exact number he did win.

    JL

  43. [43] 
    nypoet22 wrote:

    ciao

  44. [44] 
    Michale wrote:

    This is exactly why I can't understand your subjective reality here..

    On the one hand you claim that Liz is wrong on Israel and I am wrong on President ELECT Trump...

    And yet, the OBJECTIVE REALITY... The FACTS of the here and now clearly show beyond ANY doubt that Israel *AND* President ELECT Trump are clearly kicking everyone's ass!! :D

    So how can WE be wrong and YA'ALL be factually accurate, when the FACTS... The OBJECTIVE REALITY... is clearly on President ELECT Trump's AND Israel's side...

    It's that subjective reality that ya'all indulge in.. The idea that ya'all can simply change ACTUAL reality to be whatever fits the ideological agenda...

    If ya'all REALLY want to the Democrat Party to survive, ya'all are going to have to accept the FACTS on the ground.. The OBJECTIVE REALITY that President Trump AND Israel have won and Democrats and terrorists (I know.. A tad redundant) have lost...

    Talk to ya later.. :D

    0154

  45. [45] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    If they DO exist, I am certain they would agree with me that President Trump is 100% innocent of all the crimes and accusations you hysterical Democrats accuse him of..

    Wow, he's down 900% from less than a week ago. Losing faith I see...

  46. [46] 
    Michale wrote:

    Racist messages found on Tennessee college campus were ‘fabricated,' school says

    'This matter has caused enormous pain to our community,' Rhodes College said

    A Tennessee college revealed that racist messages found written on campus were fabricated by a student in an apparent attempt to make Donald Trump supporters look bad.

    Rhodes College confirmed to Fox News Digital that a student had admitted to leaving the messages strewn about campus that were found over Thanksgiving break and were being investigated as a hate crime. Instead, it turned out to be yet another race hoax.

    What *IS* it about Democrats that they always have to LIE about supposed racism...

    :eyeroll:

    0155

  47. [47] 
    Michale wrote:

    Yunno... Yer asking why is Musk and President ELECT Trump involved in these budget negotiations??

    THAT is not the question that should be asked..

    The question that SHOULD be asked is where is Basement Biden??

    He is (ostensibly) the President...

    Where's he at???

    0156

  48. [48] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    And you should be studying up on what a continuing resolution is. Not Biden's job until it gets to his desk...

  49. [49] 
    Michale wrote:

    And you should be studying up on what a continuing resolution is. Not Biden's job until it gets to his desk...

    No?? Basement Biden has no say in things whatsoever?? He has no dog in the hunt??? No care whatsoever??

    So, basically, you are saying that Basement Biden is a puppet and no longer needs to act like POTUS..

    OK... I'll buy that..

    0157

  50. [50] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    On a house vote for a continuing resolution? You do know that the house is held by republicans, right?

  51. [51] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    But it's nice you know Trump is Musk's puppet. Otherwise you would not be making the feeble attempt to toss it back on Biden...

  52. [52] 
    Michale wrote:

    Fani Willis' disqualification from Trump case has 'overwhelming' impact, legal expert says

    Willis should have removed herself from the Georgia case when given the chance, says Jonathan Turley

    "The immediate impact of this decision is overwhelming in terms of Willis herself. I mean, this court is basically saying that these cases are not supposed to be sort of vanity projects. You know, you were told by the lower court that you created this appearance of impropriety and the question for the court is why you didn't remove yourself. Many of us at the time said that most prosecutors would have seen that their continuation of the case was harming the case and harming the public interest. Willis simply refused to give up the ghost and insisted that she wanted to be the lead in this.
    She was wrong to bring the case against Trump. You know, there are some viable claims here. You know, she charged some people with unlawful entry or access to restricted areas. Those are not particularly serious crimes, but they are crimes. She was wrong to go after Trump on this basis. She clearly wanted to engage in lawfare, and that's one of the reasons why she wouldn't give up the case. You know, when this issue was first raised, many of us wrote at the time that the correct move was to remove yourself. You selected a former lover as the lead counsel. That violated, in my view, core ethical requirements. He was ultimately disqualified by the court. But Judge McAfee gave her a chance to do the right thing. He said, look, this is your conduct is wrong here and you can remove yourself. Well, he was talking to the wrong person. She had no interest in removing herself. I mean, lawfare is only valuable if you're the lead warrior, and she was not going to give up that position."

    -Law Professor Jonathan Turley

    It's simply amazing how many people have been DESTROYED by their hate and bigotry of President Trump..

    Democrats REALLY shot themselves in their wee-wees by all this illegal and immoral lawfare persecutions..

    If only someone would have warned Democrats they were becoming the instruments of their own destruction...

    Oh... Wait... :D

    0158

  53. [53] 
    Michale wrote:

    Bashit,

    Yer just being a sore luser...

    That's all it is.. You have absolutely ZERO facts that prove ANY of your BS claims...

    You lost... Get over it...

    0159

  54. [54] 
    Michale wrote:

    Rand Paul had an awesome idea!!! :D

    Elect Elon Musk as Speaker Of The House...

    The Luser Democrat Exploding Heads factor is enough by itself to consider that an awesome idea... :D

    0154

  55. [55] 
    Michale wrote:

    I dunno why you Democrats are so gung ho to kill healthcare CEOs..

    Ya'all GOT OdumboCare??

    Didn't ya'all say that was going to fix all the healthcare problems???

    Another Democrat lie???

    0155

  56. [56] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Bla bla bla...ZERO facts...bla bla bla.

    Your bs is as wrong as it is repetitive...

    Lets face it, I posted an article that has direct Trump quotes. That's at least one fact...

  57. [57] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    A senator telling the house how to conduct it's business? That's going to go over well, even if both chambers will be controlled by the same party...

  58. [58] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    You want healthcare lies, how about Trump's replacement plan for the ACA we were all going love. Twice. Before it turned in to a "concept of a plan"...

  59. [59] 
    Michale wrote:

    None of which addresses the FACT that you dumbshit Democrats said that OdumboCare would "fix" healthcare..

    You lied and now want to kill CEOs because you lied..

    Typical luser Democrats, Bashit... :eyeroll:

  60. [60] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    Who you talking to? I'm not a democrat...

  61. [61] 
    Michale wrote:

    That's what you keep saying, Bashit..

    But the FACTS prove you are lying...

  62. [62] 
    BashiBazouk wrote:

    A repetitive boiler plate response is all you got?
    Sad.

  63. [63] 
    ListenWhenYouHear wrote:

    You DO realize that E911 operators are part and parcel to law enforcement agencies, right??

    Except that they are not law enforcement. E911 is not a police agency. You do not have any police powers and are not recognized as law enforcement no matter how many times you want to tell people you are a LEO. The fact that you keep lying about having been an officer is just pitiful. And I am certain that the E911 agency you claim to be employed by now would be quick to tell you that you should never make any such claims if you want to remain employed.

    You want to shut me down??? Tell us which department and the dates of employment you spent over 2 1/2 decades as a police officer. Prove me wrong!! Come on, tough guy, shut me up with your work experience. Because the State of Florida does not recognize your claim of working in law enforcement as credible.

    When I said you were not able to claim to be law enforcement out "on the road" as you said you would be doing as an E911 operator, your responded:

    "Actually, I am.. I had received my POST (Peace Officer Standards of Training) certification when I first worked as an LEO.

    Of course, it's expired so yes I will have to go thru the Academy again, once my COMM obligation is met.. But that's a mere formality.

    Within the next year, I'll be a *SWORN* police officer again... :D"

    Florida doesn't use POST certification. I am surprised that you didn't know that. Also, YOU cannot go through the academy "again" as you never went through it in the first place! FLEA is Florida's "academy", and you never attended it. You do not show up anywhere in their database for police officers who have worked in the State of Florida! NOWHERE!

    Also, you might want to check FLEA's criteria standards for who can apply to their academy... your old fat ass won't ever be allowed to waste their time with you. Not that you would ever embarrass your puffy fat body by actually attempting to do so anyways! You are a liar!

    And if your age and horrible physical shape weren't enough to keep you from ever getting into the academy, if you had actually spent over 20 years working as a police officer, your pay rate would be far too high to be hired as a new officer. Tell us why the state is going to allow you to do this?

    Says the scumbag who had this alleged "hubby" :eyeroll: run my name thru NCIS checks to try and dig up dirt on me because I was always kicking your ass here in Weigantia..

    Except I never claimed that my husband ran you through NCIS checks, you just made that up as part of your whining and bitching response. And you clearly do not know that it is the NCIC database that one uses to run individuals. NCIS is the television show.

    And another laughable moment from your lying crapfest... thinking that police officers would ever want to go work in corrections! That was another clear give away that you just like to pretend you are a cop. Go ahead and prove me wrong by listing the department you worked for and the dates for your employment as a police officer and I will be happy to admit that I was wrong... but you cannot do it! E911 call centers are not going to be happy to hire someone who dishonestly claims to be a former member of law enforcement working for them. They won't be happy to learn that you threatened on here to file a complaint against a police officer that was a complete lie and baseless.

  64. [64] 
    Kick wrote:

    What you describe is not COMMISSION but is actually called CERTIFIED....

    Russ and I will give you one guess who approves or denies an officer being "CERTIFIED."

    5. Have the Employment File at the Agency Inspected by Commission Staff

    Once the employing agency submits an Officer Certification Application form CJSTC-59, Commission staff will review the application and employment file along with the agency’s documentation to ensure the officer is in compliance with s. 943.13, F.S.

    If the officer’s file is in compliance, the Officer Certification Application form CJSTC-59 will be approved and the officer will be certified.

    If the officer’s file is deficient in some manner, Commission staff will issue an Officer Certification Deficiency Notification form CJSTC-259 identifying the area(s) of deficiency. The employing agency then has 90 days to resolve the deficiency. If the deficiency is not resolved in 90 days, the Officer Certification Application form CJSTC-59 is forwarded to the Commission with a recommendation that the Commission deny the officer certification.

    https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/CJSTC/Officer-Requirements/How-to-Become-an-Officer.aspx

    It's a Florida Commission that is led by a Commissioner.

    You've spent quite a chunk of years now claiming that law enforcement officers aren't "commissioned" when in the vast majority of states, a person is either denied or approved to serve as an LEO by a commission. This includes Florida.

    It doesn't bother Russ and I when you repeat your false statements on permanent loop and it then becomes archived for all posterity herein; it actually proves our very valid points and your obvious lack of the absolute basics.

  65. [65] 
    Kick wrote:

    Says the scumbag who had this alleged "hubby" :eyeroll: run my name thru NCIS checks to try and dig up dirt on me because I was always kicking your ass here in Weigantia..

    Two things:

    (1) The only ass you are "always kicking" is most definitely your own, as archived herein and repeatedly.

    (2) NCIS is a freaking television show, and your ignorance knows no demonstrable bounds.

    I can't stop laughing. :)

  66. [66] 
    Kick wrote:

    ListenWhenYouHear
    63

    Except I never claimed that my husband ran you through NCIS checks, you just made that up as part of your whining and bitching response.

    I would say he meets or exceeds the definition of "terminal butthurt." He seems to have gotten played for a fool by somebody and cannot stop himself from just inventing stupid stuff.

    Hey, Russ: What the effing hell is an NCIS check? Rhetorical question. I believe it is actually hysterical and very telling indeed. Who's going to tell him that's a television show and not an actual LEO thing? Also rhetorical.

    And you clearly do not know that it is the NCIC database that one uses to run individuals. NCIS is the television show.

    That certainly answers my rhetorical question. :)

    And another laughable moment from your lying crapfest... thinking that police officers would ever want to go work in corrections! That was another clear give away that you just like to pretend you are a cop. Go ahead and prove me wrong by listing the department you worked for and the dates for your employment as a police officer and I will be happy to admit that I was wrong... but you cannot do it! E911 call centers are not going to be happy to hire someone who dishonestly claims to be a former member of law enforcement working for them. They won't be happy to learn that you threatened on here to file a complaint against a police officer that was a complete lie and baseless.

    Also, depending on the job he seeks in "corrections," *laughs* he does realize a bachelor's degree that he does NOT have is required in addition to all those other hoops?

    Also, Russ, who is going to tell him that "heart disease" disqualifies him right out the gate? You tell him.

    I would wager he'll deny it, but then we have the Florida statutes -- meaning laws -- that say otherwise. Darn those pesky facts. :)

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