Honeymoon Over?
Donald Trump is now officially one month into his second term as president. And already, his "honeymoon" period seems to be ending. Most incoming presidents get at least a few months where the public essentially gives them the benefit of the doubt and approves of the job they're doing. But then at some point, this wears off and their job approval polling noticeably falls back. And some of the polls released recently show that this may already be happening with Trump.
Trump started his second term with one of the weakest honeymoon showings of the modern political era. Even so, it was better than his first term, where he never did get above 50 percent (he briefly touched this milestone in his first month, but then fell back, never to fully recover). This time around, he barely got his polling average above 50 percent, but at least mostly he was "above water" in the polling. His job approval was higher than his job disapproval, in other words. This is no longer the case in some polling.
His average is still above water, since not every poll now shows him falling off quite so drastically. FiveThirtyEight now shows him at 48.3 percent approval to 47.0 percent disapproval, but that is down from the 50.0 / 41.5 percent that he started with in January. That's a change from being 8.5 points up to being only 1.3 points above water, in one short month. If this trend continues, then his honeymoon is definitely already over (although, to be fair, he could bounce back).
The Washington Post and Ipsos conducted one of the polls, and the Post published an article with a dive into the numbers (as well as a second one that also has numbers from other recent polls) that explain why Trump's approval has slipped. Many of the actions he has taken as president are already quite unpopular, with only a few showing a majority still approving of them. Overall, 57 percent of adults surveyed think Trump has "exceeded his presidential authority." Only 45 percent approve of the way Trump is handling the economy, while only 44 percent approve of how he's managing the federal government.
This could be due to Elon Musk dragging Trump's numbers down. Musk is already pretty unpopular -- only 34 percent approve of the job he's doing, while 49 percent disapprove. Disapproval of Musk shutting down federal agencies was twice as high as approval (52/26), and 63 percent are concerned that he is getting access to sensitive personal data of the American people.
One of the few issues where Trump is still above water is immigration, where 50 percent approve of the job he's doing while 48 percent disapprove. But this generic support shrinks to a minority when people are asked specific questions about their support for deporting immigrants: who haven't broken any laws other than immigration laws (39/57), who arrived as children (26/70), or who are parents of U.S. citizens (30/66). Trump's proposal to deny birthright citizenship to anyone born here is also unpopular.
Some of Trump's policies or actions are wildly unpopular. His pardoning of the violent offenders from January 6th was opposed by a whopping 83 percent to 14 percent. Even 70 percent of Republicans opposed these pardons. But Trump's biggest vulnerability is on an issue which was a big part of his campaign -- the economy:
The Post-Ipsos poll shows Americans disapprove of his handling of the economy 53 to 45. Those are his worst economic numbers since 2017.
The Reuters poll shows his economic approval at 39 percent, which is lower than it ever was in his first term.
. . .
In the CNN poll, 62 percent say Trump hasn't gone far enough in trying to reduce the price of everyday goods. Perhaps most strikingly, even a majority of Republican-leaning voters (51 percent) say this.
The Reuters poll shows just 32 percent approve of his handling of inflation -- lower than his handling of the economy.
A Reuters-Ipsos poll also recently showed that people who think the economy "is on the wrong track" rose to 53 percent, up from 43 percent just last month. That's a pretty sobering turnaround. The Washington Post-Ipsos poll asked the question in a different way, and got even worse results:
And a mid-February Gallup survey found 54 percent of Americans disapproving Trump's handling of the economy and 53 percent disapproving his handling of foreign trade. More ominous for Trump if the sentiment persists is that negative feelings about current economic conditions are as prominent as they were when they helped lift Trump to the presidency. The [Washington Post]-Ipsos poll noted above found that 73 percent of Americans consider the economy "not so good" or "poor," with that percentage rising to 76 percent with respect to gasoline and energy prices and 92 percent with respect to food prices.
The only thing Trump has really done on the economy is to announce new tariffs, but his 25 percent tariff on Canada and Mexico is opposed by roughly 6-in-10 Americans (who understandably also think tariffs are going to raise prices).
All of this charts a way for Democrats to chip away at Trump's support even further. Hit Trump hard on the economy and inflation. He promised, after all, to turn all of this around "on Day One," and here were are more than a month in and things are getting worse. It's an easy argument to make, really. Keep hitting Elon Musk's recklessness too, as he's much less popular than Trump.
And while it hasn't happened yet, there's one Rubicon that Trump could cross which would be immensely unpopular. The Post poll asked: "If a federal court rules that something the Trump administration did is illegal, do you think the Trump administration should follow the ruling or ignore the court ruling?" The results were overwhelming. "Follow the ruling" won out with 84 percent. Even Republicans don't want to see Trump ignore the court system, by a jaw-dropping 79 percent (to only 18 percent who thought he should ignore a court's ruling).
Trump is showing weakness, and it could easily get weaker soon, as the full impact of his policies (especially Musk's willy-nilly dismantling of government) become more widely known. If the economy doesn't show marked improvement soon, more and more people (even the ones who voted for him) are going to sour on Trump's economic leadership. If the deportation effort runs out of people who have committed serious crimes and they start just randomly rounding up all the immigrants they can find (workplace raids, school raids, church raids, etc.), then people are not going to be as supportive as they are now. If Trump gives in to his urge to rule as a king unfettered by courts or judges, it's going to be extremely unpopular.
Democrats, please take note. Trump's honeymoon may already be over, which means he is now weaker and more vulnerable to political attacks.
-- Chris Weigant
Follow Chris on Twitter: @ChrisWeigant
Can you comment, or connect the dots, on the relation between being "unpopular in the polls" and "seriously constrained from continuing to break the law"?
That is, you're pointing out that Trump's polling numbers are heading south in many areas. More and more people disapprove of his policies and actions, whether by him or by Musk. You note that *everyone* in America (practically) thinks he should obey a court order to stop doing something the court deems illegal.
But why? Why should Trump obey the Courts just because the American people would like that? Clearly he doesn't want to obey the Courts, and in my opinion he will not cave to any kind of adverse decision, probably not even a Supreme Court decision.
He owns the Justice Department. He owns the FBI. He owns the top-level Federal bureaucracy. He owns the Republican majority in Congress, both Houses. He owns the mainstream media, in working terms. He has a base of somewhere between 25% and 45% (depending on the issue at hand) who really, really like him and want him to continue being Trump. What in reality is going to happen if he defies a court order? What?
"Who's going to make me?" in playground lingo - the only lingo Trump understands.
Pardon this little interruption but, GO CANADA GO!!!
I trust that everyone here will be cheering for the 51st state!
Elizabeth [2]
I had to look this up. It appears to be a reference to a hockey game between the US and Canada taking place tonight (Feb. 20th).
I'd be cheering for the U.S., if I gave a damn about hockey. And I love Canada, our cousin and neighbor, too much to ever refer to her, even as a joke, as the "51st state". That's just sucking up to Trump and his vulgar imperialist fantasies.
With all respect to you, one of our most valued commentators here!
Hey John! Thanks for that - it's very much appreciated. And, as I know you know, sucking up to Trump was not my intention. :-)
yeah, I was watching a fight, and a hockey game broke out. who knew?
Yeah, this born and raised in Detroit Red Wings territory hockey fan was pulling for you guys. Congrats!
JL,
there's also the termination letters people received, and the emails indicating where the orders came from to send the termination letters.
Yea??
Says who?? HuffPoop?? WaPoop??
Show me your FACTS that PROVE Elon Musk has fired a SINGLE person or has slashed a SINGLE budget..
You can't because those claims are out and out LIES..
If you people have to LIE to make your case against PRESIDENT Trump, then your case ain't worth making..
Which ALWAYS seems the case with you woke progressive Democrats..
I am off for another 3 day weekend.. :D So I'll be around ALL day... :D
Show me yer FACTS or shut the frak up.. :D
It's funny how ya'all swear by the polls when the polls say what ya'all want to hear..
But when the polls say what you DON'T like, then the polls don't mean shit.. :D
Iddn't it FUNNY how it is ALWAYS like that with you woke progressive Democrats?? :D
Hypocrisy. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.
"So say we all..."
:D
PRESIDENT Trump has stated that, with the TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS that DOGE has saved, he is going to give a refund check to Americans to the tune of $5,000....
Now **THAT'S** what I'm talkin' about!!! :D
And how many of the retarded woke progressive Democrat morons will return/not cash those checks because they don't like PRESIDENT Trump???
I am willing to wager not a single frakin' one of ya'all will refuse that money!!
:eyeroll:
Hypocrisy. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.
"So say we all.....
How can you tell if someone is COMPLETELY and INTIMATELY familiar with Star Trek??
http://mfccfl.us/trek.jpg
The can do a fully FACTUALLY ACCURATE Star Trek analogy with ZERO flaws... :D
And what's this!!???
Doth my eyes deceive me!??
Kash Patel, PRESIDENT Trump's pick to lead the FBI has been confirmed as the new DIRECTOR OF THE FBI!!!???
But!!! But!!! But!!! I thought woke progressive Democrats were going to STOP this nomination from sailing thru!!???
Could it be!!??? Did woke progressive Democrats ***FAIL***!!!???
*** AGAIN ***!!!!!???????
WOW....
SO.... Who's keeping score???
HOW MANY of PRESIDENT Trump's nominees have woke progressive Democrats been able to stop??
What's that!??
NONE!!!????
As in ZERO??? As in ZILCH??? As in NADA??? As in ZIP??? As in....... **NONE**
Again.... WOW
I guess the woke progressive Democrat Party **IS** truly dead and gone!!! :D
How cray-cray is that, eh??? :D
I have a feeling that today is going to be a REALLY GOOD day... :D
CW,
Donald Trump is now officially one month into his second
term as president. And already, his "honeymoon" period seems to be ending.
Oh puuuuu-leeeesse...
You and I BOTH know that PRESIDENT Trump NEVER got any kind of honeymoon...
:eyeroll:
And some of the polls released recently show that this may already be happening with Trump.
At least, the polls that say what ya'all want to hear...
:eyeroll:
Trump started his second term with one of the weakest honeymoon showings of the modern political era.
Which simply proves that I said is factually accurate.. PRESIDENT Trump never gets any kind of honeymoon from the woke progressive Democrat press...
This could be due to Elon Musk dragging Trump's numbers down. Musk is already pretty unpopular -- only 34 percent approve of the job he's doing, while 49 percent disapprove.
Except that before Elon Musk went all PRO AMERICA, you woke progressive Democrats LOVED Elon!!! Ya'all couldn't scream Elon's name loud enough!!!
Just like you woke progressive Democrats used to LOVE Donald Trump!!!
It's uncanny...
:eyeroll:
Democrats, please take note. Trump's honeymoon may already be over, which means he is now weaker and more vulnerable to political attacks.
Yea... Cuz that worked SO WELL for ya'all woke progressive Democrats, eh??
:eyeroll:
What's the definition of insanity???
Trying the same thing over and over and over and over hoping for a different result???
Once again... Proof positive that you woke progressive Democrats **NEVER** a single solitary thing...
:epic eyeroll:
Genocide Guy,
But why? Why should Trump obey the Courts just because the American people would like that? Clearly he doesn't want to obey the Courts, and in my opinion he will not cave to any kind of adverse decision, probably not even a Supreme Court decision.
Yea?? But wasn't it your opinion that Headboard Harris was going to WIN the election and that PRESIDENT Trump was going to prison???
So, this begs the question, Genocide Guy???
Why would you think that you have even the smallest IOTA of credibility around here?? :eyeroll:
What else can we expect from a guy who, in his own words, stated he "can't wait for the next pandemic".. That he's EXCITED about the "mass deaths" of Americans!!
Yer a turd, John M. from CT... Pure and simple..
He owns the Justice Department. He owns the FBI. He owns the top-level Federal bureaucracy. He owns the Republican majority in Congress, both Houses.
Yep. So did Biden.. So what's yer point, Genocide Guy??? I assume you have one... :eyeroll:
He owns the mainstream media, in working terms.
BBBBBBBWWWWWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
You REALLY ARE a totally retarded moron, ain't ya Genocide Guy!! I thought it was all an act!!!
What in reality is going to happen if he defies a court order? What?
You mean like Biden defied the courts???
In PRESIDENT Trump's case... Not much..
It'll get kicked up to the SCOTUS and they will rule in PRESIDENT Trump's favor and that will be that..
Again, I have to ask you, Genocide Guy...
WHAT... IS.... YOUR.... POINT????
:eyeroll:
Genocide Guy,
I had to look this up. It appears to be a reference to a hockey game between the US and Canada taking place tonight (Feb. 20th).
Ooooooooo Aren't YOU just the sharpest tool in the shed..
NOT!!!
Do you have even a CLUE as to what is going on around ya!!??? :eyeroll:
And looks like the real and actual PROSECUTIONS against woke progressive Democrats have begun!!! :D
Washington prosecutor probes threats against DOGE, takes aim at Schumer
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The top U.S. prosecutor in Washington launched an investigation on Wednesday into threats against federal workers, and said the department would probe Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer, after people working in Elon Musk's drive to downsize and overhaul the government said they had been threatened.
Interim U.S. Attorney Ed Martin said in an email seen by Reuters that the probe was inspired by a conversation with an employee of billionaire Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, an entity created by Republican President Donald Trump.
DOGE has triggered a wave of layoffs across the federal government.
"Late last night I took a call from a senior DOGE staffer. We spoke about some pressing tech issues and then he told me about threats against DOGE workers. It is despicable that these men and women are being threatened," Martin said in the email.
Martin named the initiative "Operation Whirlwind," saying Schumer, the top Democrat in the Republican-led U.S. Senate, is the subject of a threats investigation. Schumer spoke out against Supreme Court Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh at a 2020 abortion rights rally by saying: "You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price."
"I reached out to Senator Schumer to investigate his threats," Martin said. "He has not yet responded to me."
Let's see how woke progressive Democrats like a little lawfare prosecutions... :D
At least, in THESE cases, they are LEGITIMATE prosecutions...
Chuckie even CONFESSED to the threats the next day by apologizing for his threats..
Wonder who will lead the Democrats in the Senate when Chuckie goes to jail...
This is gonna be fun!! :D
It was one of greatest hockey games I've ever seen. Congrats to both teams!
Liz,
Not a fan of hockey.. One of the cops I work with is a DIE HARD hockey fan.. He is going to be inconsolable when I go back to work.. :D
So, let's travel to MAINE for a news flash...
DATELINE MAINE..
John was a pole vaulter... John sucked in the pole vault event...
Next year John hit upon an awesome idea!!! John can SAY he is now Katie and cosplay at being a girl..
Not only will this make him extremely popular he can compete as a girl and be a winner!!
In the pole vault event that year, "Katie" (really, John) won first place in the girls pole vault event!!
The moral of the story???
If yer a guy and a luser who can't compete in BOYS sports, just pretend to be a girl and the morons will actually LET you compete in GIRLS sports and then you can win easily!!
Retarded woke progressive Democrats in action...
:eyeroll:
Maybe not, Michale. I think he'll agree that it was an awesome hockey game, from start to finish. It could have gone either way.
Let's travel to CANADA...
Nathaniel Morin wanted to compete in marathons..
Nathaniel really REALLY sucked in mens marathon racing..
So Nathaniel decided to cosplay as a woman and wanted to be known as Nathanielle...
Nathaniel AKA Nathanielle was able to marathon race in the WOMENs marathon and beat a 12-yr old girl...
Nathaniel is so proud of himself for cosplaying as a woman and beating a 12 yr old girl in a marathon...
Nathaniel is a retarded moron...
:eyeroll:
Maybe not, Michale. I think he'll agree that it was an awesome hockey game, from start to finish.
And THAT is all that matters..
NOTICE TO ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
AMERICA IS CLOSED. GO HOME!!!
-PRESIDENT Trump
President Trump signed an executive order Wednesday evening that terminated any taxpayer benefits that may be going to illegal immigrants.
He also asked agencies to try to block money that goes to support sanctuary policies.
Mr. Trump signed executive orders aboard Air Force One on Wednesday evening as he returns to the White House from a weekend in Florida and a speech given to the FII Priority Summit in Miami earlier Wednesday.
“My Administration will uphold the rule of law, defend against the waste of hard-earned taxpayer resources, and protect benefits for American citizens in need, including individuals with disabilities and veterans,” the order says.
Illegal immigrants already face a general bar under federal law from obtaining taxpayer benefits, though there are some exceptions and loopholes.
Illegal immigrants can claim a child tax credit on their tax returns, as long as the children themselves are here legally.
And the White House said Medicaid money for emergency care and disaster relief dollars have flowed to illegal immigrants.
Mr. Trump’s new order directs federal agencies to identify taxpayer funded benefits that go to illegal immigrants and “take all appropriate actions” to ensure that federal funds do not go toward “‘sanctuary policies’ that seek to shield illegal aliens from deportation.”
No more free ride for ILLEGAL immigrant criminals paid for by American taxpayers..
Man up and make your own way, criminals... :eyerolls:
PRESIDENT Trump is going to deport MILLIONS and MILLIONS of illegal immigrant criminals...
"But who will do all the menial labor tasks!!!???"
-Retarded Woke Progressive Democrats
PRESIDENT Trump is going to fire MILLIONS and MILLIONS of useless moron Federal Workers...
MICHALE... THE PROBLEM SOLVER
:D
So, since the NOMINATION WAR appears to be at it's conclusion, let's take a look at the stats..
PRESIDENT TRUMP
ALL.... *ALL* of PRESIDENT Trump's nominees were confirmed....
MORON WOKE PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS
ZERO... As in ZILCH... As in NADA.... As in NOTHING... As in ZIP...
Moron woke progressive Democrats couldn't muster ANY kind of challenge against ANY of PRESIDENT Trump's nominees???
ALL of PRESIDENT Trump's nominees were confirmed!!!
How CRAZY is that, eh!!!??? :D
I guess it's factually accurate to say that the woke progressive Democrat Party is really REALLY dead... :D
So... Let's talk about Margret...
Margaret Brennan's recent performance on CBS's "Face the Nation" has sparked unrelenting and well deserved criticism, highlighting the issues that those in the woke progressive Democrats moronic Media.. During an interview with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Brennan made the totally BULLSHIT assertion that the Nazis utilized free speech as a tool for genocide.
Let me repeat that for those retarded woke progressive Democrats who are hard of hearing...
CBS claimed that NAZI GERMANY was a bastion of FREE SPEECH and, due to that, the NAZIs committed GENOCIDE on the jewish people..
You see that, JL???
This claim, which many found to be both utterly CONTEMPTIBLE and COMPLETELY embarrassing for CBS and other woke progressive Democrats, reflects a COMPLETE, UTTER and VERY WIDE SPREAD *IGNORANCE* of historical facts and the OBJECTIVE REALITY of what Nazi Germany was all about.. Under the NAZIs (much like under the woke progressive Democrats) free speech was severely suppressed.
Rubio attempted to correct Brennan, stating that free speech was nonexistent in the Third Reich, but she abruptly ended the interview, citing time constraints. This complete and utter IGNORANCE, plus a blatant refusal to address their contemptible bullshit, not only raises questions about the woke progressive Democrat media's commitment to factual reporting or ANY semblance of reporting the FACTS over hysterical ideology... Especially for someone with Brennan's credentials, including an Emmy award and a position on the Council on Foreign Relations. Brennan PROVED beyond ANY doubt that her "credentials" are based SOLELY on her ideological purity...
The incident PROVES beyond ANY doubt that a larger trend that the legacy media is completely and hopelessly BIASED and that their credibility is in the shithole where it belongs..
Shortly after Brennan's misstep, CBS aired a segment on "60 Minutes" that praised Germany's stringent online speech regulations, which impose harsh penalties for various forms of expression. This segment failed to present a balanced view, as it did not include perspectives from those affected by these laws.
Get that?? Woke progressive Democrats DOUBLED DOWN on their complete and utter NAZIism and PRAISED Germany for their quashing of human rights...
If Brennan and CBS were the ONLY ones who thought like this, it could be possible to write it off as an outlier...
But THEN you have woke progressive Democrat leaders like Katherine Maher of NPR who has openly criticized the First Amendment, labeling it a significant obstacle in combating misinformation.
Get that!?? Woke progressive Democrats are saying that the "First Amendment is a "significant obstacle" to their retarded woke progressive Democrat agenda!!
Such statements not only raises concerns about the media's dedication to free speech principles, it flat out PROVES that the woke progressive Democrat agenda is ANTI-AMERICAN.
The New York Times has also faced scrutiny for its handling of free speech issues, with internal conflicts arising over published opinions that challenge the prevailing narrative.
Public trust in mainstream media has plummeted, with a Gallup poll indicating that only 31% of Americans express confidence in media outlets. Brennan's actions and the broader media landscape reflect complete and utter contempt of American values and a troubling disconnect from all the freedoms that Make America Great.
Woke progressive Democrats' complete disavowing free expression and factual objective reality and integrity explains EXACTLY why Democrats lost the election by such a HUGE MARGIN and why PRESIDENT Trump has such a distinct mandate to get America back on track...
"So say we all...."
Does anyone want to tell me how it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell a male cosplaying as a woman ("trans")...
http://mfccfl.us/trans7.jpg
I seem to have forgotten, what with all the FACTS that prove otherwise...
:eyeroll:
Bashit Troll,
That's not what your dear leader said yesterday evening:
First of all, your "source" is Huffpoop...
Which I would think you would be EMBARRASSED to use such a source which was completely and utterly WRONG when it claimed that Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris actually had a chance to win the election..
Secondly, even IF Huffpoop accurately reported (a woke progressive Democrats propaganda accurately reporting?? Shirley you jest... :eyeroll:) what PRESIDENT Trump said, it doesn't contradict the FACT that Elon Musk and/or DOGE has NOT fired a SINGLE SOLITARY SOUL... Has NOT slashed a SINGLE SOLITARY BUDGET...
As usual you and your fellow woke progressive Democrats are talking out yer ass...
Which is apropos because all yer spewing is BULLSHIT...
If ya'all have to LIE to make your point... Yer point ain't worth making...
"So say we all..."
How can you tell if someone is COMPLETELY and INTIMATELY familiar with Star Trek??
You are like an evangelical christian that complains to the pastor that his sermon, that was mostly just quoting Jesus, was too liberal... You can recite the words but don't seem to get the message...
First of all, your "source" is Huffpoop...
Which I would think you would be EMBARRASSED to use such a source which was completely and utterly WRONG when it claimed that Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris actually had a chance to win the election..
Dude, I don't really care. You hide behind your quotes without linking. You got nothing to criticize when it comes to sources. Other than a non sequitur, can you prove the quote was made up? Otherwise, Musk is in charge. He is making the decisions and in the end, ""A difference that makes no difference is no difference"....
Dude, I don't really care. You hide behind your quotes without linking.
Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together would be able to find the appropriate source..
You trolls whined and cried about the bold and the links so I stopped putting them in there..
NOW ya'all whine and cry that there are no links...
Face reality, Bash... The ONLY thing you don't like are the facts of how badly ya'all frak'ed things up..
But I tell you what.. I am in a REALLY good mood today.. M lovely wife and I bought us a new adjustable SLEEP NUMBER bed set for our anniversary.. :D Set us back a cool $7K but my lovely wife is worth it.. And it's only money.. I make a ton of it which allowed me to do an awesome donation to Weigantia.. :D Gonna have an awesome night in bed tonight!!! AND get some sleep too!!! :D
So, you tell me how you would like me to post the facts and, if agreeable, I'll make it happen.. :D
Other than a non sequitur, can you prove the quote was made up?
Not relevant since even if the QUOTE is accurate, it says NOTHING about who fires whom and who slashes budgets..
He is making the decisions and in the end, "
You have absolutely ZERO FACTS to even support the BS claim...
Elon and DOGE make RECOMMENDATIONS...
The heads of the agencies or PRESIDENT Trump decides who gets fired and what budget is slashed..
"These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN
You are like an evangelical christian that complains to the pastor that his sermon, that was mostly just quoting Jesus, was too liberal... You can recite the words but don't seem to get the message...
I actually don't have any problem with liberals.. They got a lot of good ideas and their beliefs are, for the most part, agreeable to me..
It's you retarded woke progressives who are the anti-America pain in the asses..
A difference that makes no difference is no difference.
Bashi,
I kind of like this back and forth..
We can still jump 10-8 in each other's shit w/o (for the most part) any of the flame war style of discussions.. And leaving the families out of it..
I am willing to continue along this style if you are...
You trolls whined and cried about the bold and the links so I stopped putting them in there..
Bullshit. The complaints were about most or all of the article in bold, not the link. To which you have been admonished by our host. You just stopped linking because about two thirds down in the article, the sensational headline that you hung your point on would be contradicted...
A difference that makes no difference is no difference.
Not applicable...
Musk and DOGE have made several recommendations that were not followed by PRESIDENT Trump or Department Heads..
DOGE doesn't actually fire ANYONE...
DOGE doesn't actually slash ANY budget..
This is the difference that makes ALL the difference...
The complaints were about most or all of the article in bold, not the link.
Not factually accurate...
Irregardless, you have an opportunity to change all that..
Are you going to continue to whine and cry???
Or are you going to do something about it..
It's your choice, Bash... :D
But choose wisely
-Knight, INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE
:D
It's you retarded woke progressives who are the anti-America pain in the asses..
I'm not a progressive. But the same could be said of MAGA. I don't mind conservatives but MAGA are anti-America pain in the asses.. You can't spell hatred without a red hat...
DOGE doesn't actually fire ANYONE...
DOGE doesn't actually slash ANY budget..
This is the difference that makes ALL the difference...
Like I said before, is a mob boss innocent of murder because they just ordered the hit but did not pull the trigger? I'll stick with Spock on this one...
I'm not a progressive.
The facts... AND your comments.... prove otherwise..
Only a woke progressive would have voted for Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris..
But the same could be said of MAGA.
Oh sure... You could SAY it...
But it wouldn't be factually accurate..
MAGA means MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...
Only woke progressive Democrats would be against making America great.. :^/
Like I said before, is a mob boss innocent of murder because they just ordered the hit but did not pull the trigger?
Where you go wrong is that Musk doesn't ORDER anyone..
He simply makes recommendations..
In your Mob Boss analogy, it would be as if the Mob Boss' accountant says, "Yunno... You would save a LOT of money if you get rid of Democrat Jim Crow.."
NO JURY in the land would convict the accountant of murder...
THAT is a helluva lot better analogy than your BS example..
JL,
I know you can't admit it but you have to agree...
My Mob Boss analogy is perfectly spot on to the circumstances we are faced with...
If ya'all have any FACTS that prove otherwise??
"I am all ears.."
Ross Perot, 1992 Presidential Debates
:D
While cleaning up the room to make ready for the new SLEEP NUMBER bed set, I came across a set of books sent by an old friend some 20 years ago!!
http://mfccfl.us./books.jpg
I REALLY miss that guy... :(
The facts... AND your comments.... prove otherwise..
Do they?
Only a woke progressive would have voted for Token DEI Hire Headboard Harris..
Only a Trump boot licker would use so many dumb slurs...
MAGA means MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...
America is already great. That you would believe a blatant con that says otherwise pretty much says it all...
Only a Trump boot licker would use so many dumb slurs...
They are no slurs if they are factually accurate..
Harris was picked as VP *SOLELY* because she was a black woman.. Biden himself said this.. Therefore calling her a DEI hire is factually accurate..
It's well documented that Harris got to where she was in California politics by sleeping with her boss.. Hence the name Headboard Harris is factually accurate..
America is already great.
It is NOW... Under Biden, America was an unmitigated dumpster fire with an open southern border, American soldiers being needlessly butchered by terrorists and millions of Americans died under Biden's watch from covid...
Of course, YOU think that makes America great... Just like Genocide Guy, JMCT who "can't wait for the next pandemic"...
:eyeroll:
Where you go wrong is that Musk doesn't ORDER anyone..
You don't know that. If there is one truth to the current situation is that it is about as transparent as lead shielding. Which is it's own problem...
Their words on the other hand, say much...
PRESIDENT Trump making America GREAT again... :D
http://mfccfl.us/fish.jpg
:D
Harris was picked as VP *SOLELY* because she was a black woman.. Biden himself said this.. Therefore calling her a DEI hire is factually accurate..
"SOLELY" is a blatant lie...
It's well documented that Harris got to where she was in California politics by sleeping with her boss.. Hence the name Headboard Harris is factually accurate..
Did she? Did Newsome sleep with Brown as well since he got the same support? Harris won a hell of a lot more elections than Trump...
It is NOW... Under Biden, America was an unmitigated dumpster fire with an open southern border, American soldiers being needlessly butchered by terrorists and millions of Americans died under Biden's watch from covid...
As you would say, not factually accurate...
"SOLELY" is a blatant lie...
Not so... Biden state he would pick a woman of color for his VP...
He stated THAT before he stated ANY other qualification..
So, a black woman was the SOLE initial consideration...
Facts don't lie, Bash..
Harris won a hell of a lot more elections than Trump...
And yet, she ended up LOSING TWICE the only election that mattered...
Funny how that is, eh? :D
As you would say, not factually accurate...
Prove it..
You can't because the FACTS are on my side...
The southern border was an open border... FACT
American soldiers were needlessly butchered by terrorists thanx to Biden's incompetence... FACT
MILLIONS of Americans died from covid on Biden's watch... FACT
"None of these facts are in dispute, Mr President!"
-Klingon Ambassador
Looks like Maine is gonna get cut off from Federal Funding.. :D
Trump vows to cut off federal funding to Maine over refusal to comply with 'No Men in Women's Sports' order
'I can not believe that they're doing that,' President Donald Trump says of Maine
President Donald Trump on Thursday announced that he will cut off federal funding to the state of Maine if it continues to defy his executive order preventing trans athletes from competing in girls' and women's sports.
"I heard men are still playing in Maine," Trump said to a gathering of Republican governors in Washington on Thursday.
"I hate to tell you this, but we're not going to give them any federal money, they are still saying ‘we want men to play in women’s sports' and I can not believe that they're doing that… So we’re not going to give them any federal funding, none whatsoever, until they clean that up."
Maine is gonna learn the hard way to toe the line... OR ELSE...
:D
He stated THAT before he stated ANY other qualification..
So, a black woman was the SOLE initial consideration...
It may have created the pool but it certainly wasn't the "sole" consideration for the final pick...
Prove it..
You can't because the FACTS are on my side...
The facts are rarely on your side.
"Open borders" is political propaganda. A similar amount of Americans died to terrorists attacks during Trump's first term and the total deaths of the entire COVID pandemic is a bit over a million making "millions" inaccurate...
Caesars Palace, MLB stadium, an ice cream truck: DOGE reveals how schools spent billions in COVID-relief funds
About $86K of COVID-relief funds were spent on in hotel rooms at Caesars Palace, DOGE says
Schools spent hundreds of billions of COVID-relief funds on expenses that had "little" impact on students, such as Las Vegas hotel rooms and the purchase of an ice cream truck, according to the Trump administration's cost-cutting department.
The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk to purge wasteful government spending, revealed on Thursday that schools have spent nearly $200 billion in COVID-relief funds "with little oversight or impact on students."
Granite Public Schools in Utah spent their COVID-relief funds on $86,000 in hotel rooms at Caesars Palace, a ritzy Las Vegas Casino, while Santa Ana Unified spent $393,000 to rent out a Major League Baseball stadium, according to a report by Parents Defending Education and shared by DOGE.
The cost-cutting department also revealed that schools spent $60,000 of COVID-relief funds on swimming pool passes, while a California district used its funds to purchase an ice cream truck.
THIS ^^^^ is what you people are protecting!!!????
How do ya'all sleep at night!!???
Now do the PPP loans under Trump....
So you justify your BS mistakes with BS mistakes in PRESIDENT Trump's first term??
I accept your concession.. :eyeroll:
Suffer the Little Children
ANALYSIS
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2025/02/20/suffer_the_little_children_152392.html#google_vignette#2
How do disgusting woke progressive Democrats sleep at night!!???
More extortion from Musk.
His social network is failing and the "genus" needs extortion to drum up business. Most corrupt administration in history and we are just a month in...
Suffer the Little Children...
Most corrupt administration in history and we are just a month in...
Not even CLOSE..
The Biden crime family got RICH off of Biden's schemes...
Sorry, son... But the Biden administration is BY FAR the most corrupt administration in history...
I know you can't acknowledge the facts because yer work progressive ideology won't let you..
But facts are facts...
As far as your link goes... HAMAS is to blame for EVERYTHING that has happened to Gaza...
This is fact..
But, by all means.. Go on and continue to defend terrorists...
That's your woke progressive ideology talking..
:eyeroll:
I see a lot of blabbin' and no provin'...
I know... And I wish you would stop...
But you wouldn't be you if you didn't blab and blab without a single solitary fact to back it up..
And here we are... :eyeroll:
Yawn.
Well, at least we have established one fact..
DOGE hasn't fired a SINGLE SOLITARY person or slashed a SINGLE SOLITARY budget...
"... and any attempt to prove otherwise is futile because it just ain't true."
-Tom Cruise, A FEW GOOD MEN
Let this be a lesson to ya'all...
Hysterical BS doesn't cut the mustard here in Weigantia...
Either come with FACTS or just stay home...
Another fact you have not actually established...
The rest is just an example of you not following your own advice...
Was trying to end the NYC congestion toll some sort of victory or just a run of the mill kick back?
Another fact you have not actually established...
YOU people claimed that DOGE has fired people and slashed budgets..
It's up to YOU people to provide facts to support your claims..
Up until ya'all do, it's a FACT that DOGE has not done ANY of that..
It's up to YOU people to provide facts to support your claims..
See any article about the firings. Doge does this, doge does that. Unless you have anything beyond the DOJ saying Musk is just an adviser, which was shot down by Trump himself, post it. Otherwise Musk is responsible even if his name is not at the bottom the letter of termination...
And PRESIDENT Trump is doing ANOTHER PRESS CONFERENCE!!!!
Why couldn't Biden or Harris do ANY press conferences!??
See any article about the firings.
Yea, cuz woke progressive media ALWAYS reports things factually... :eyeroll:
Come up with some FACTS that DOGE actually fired ANYONE...
Come up with some FACTS that DOGE actually slashed a SINGLE budget...
You CAN'T because it just DIDN'T happen...
Come talk to me when you ACTUALLY have a FACT, Bash...
Come talk to me when you ACTUALLY have a FACT, Bash...
I'll be around...
But not tonight..
The lovely wife and I are gonna try out that new bed!!! :D
See ya'all in the morning.. :D
The Department of Government Efficiency terminated employment for 3,600 probationary Health and Human Services employees on Friday — but went through a careful process to exclude those who were serving in specialized or critical roles.[FoxNews]
Your sources use the same language. Your ad hominems are just a dodge. My point stands...
John M from Ct.
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But why? Why should Trump obey the Courts just because the American people would like that?
Midterm elections (the definitive polls).
Clearly he doesn't want to obey the Courts, and in my opinion he will not cave to any kind of adverse decision, probably not even a Supreme Court decision.
That will likely depend on the decision. It's always possible Trump could ignore a particular decision while the states will ignore Trump.
He owns the Justice Department. He owns the FBI. He owns the top-level Federal bureaucracy. He owns the Republican majority in Congress, both Houses. He owns the mainstream media, in working terms.
He certainly believes he does; however, We the People obviously know better.
He has a base of somewhere between 25% and 45% (depending on the issue at hand) who really, really like him and want him to continue being Trump.
He'll continue being Trump whether or not they like him. He's a con artist who will rewrite any narrative to suit himself (despite all evidence to the contrary), up to and including doing a complete 180 on any issue if it means he can gain money or attention or both, and that'll be enough for the gullible people who hysterically believe he's playing some kind of 4-D chess game when he's seriously just playing them in his quest for money and fame/recognition.
What in reality is going to happen if he defies a court order? What?
Midterm elections.
"Who's going to make me?" in playground lingo - the only lingo Trump understands.
Playground lingo? Trump is an apprentice of Roy Cohn, the red-baiting protégé of Senator Joe McCarthy; that's the language he understands.
Trump met Cohn when he was 27 years old and the Trump family was being sued by the Justice Department for having a policy of not renting to Black people in 39 locations, for which they were undeniably guilty as charged. Cohn represented power brokers of New York, including the Gambino and Genovese crime families and, after their meeting, he represented the Trump criminals.
If you want to get a sense of who Trump is, check out Cohn who was indicted four times from the mid 1960s to the early 1970s for stock-swindling and obstruction of justice, perjury, bribery, conspiracy, extortion, blackmail, fraud and filing false business reports. Sounding familiar yet? Cohn was acquitted three out of four times and the fourth ended in a mistrial.
However, like the Felon-in-Chief who has multiple millions of dollars of judgments against him for all manner of business fraud, Roy Cohn also did not outrun his civil and criminal misdeeds. Cohn was eventually disbarred for multiple unethical practices and crimes including the falsifying of a codicil to a will in order to steal from a dying client (invalidated in probate).
His lawyers fought the disbarment stating that Cohn had a life-threatening disease (which Cohn, ever the lying liar and self-described victim, insisted repeatedly was liver cancer), but Cohn was disbarred despite the list of famous witnesses who advocated on his behalf, including Barbara Walters, Donald Trump (I could go on).
Meanwhile, Cohn famously did not pay invoices and was almost constantly being pursued by his creditors and the IRS, having had his tax returns audited more than two decades in a row and constantly found owing back taxes. Over time, the IRS had liens against him totaling around $3 million that spanned a time period of a quarter century, and six weeks after his disbarment, Roy Cohn died painfully from the complications of AIDS that he insisted until the day he died was liver cancer.
That was Trump's mentor; that's the language he understands.
Elizabeth Miller
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Pardon this little interruption but, GO CANADA GO!!!
Go where?
I trust that everyone here will be cheering for the 51st state!
I would be lying my ass off if I said I was rooting for anyone, but I was watching and Canada definitely had the better team, in my opinion, and definitely one of the best (if not the best) hockey player of all time.
Congratulations, Canada. It was a great game, and you dang well deserved it. :)
BashiBazouk
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I'm not a progressive.
Not even a Democrat either, as has been stated for multiple years and on multiple occasions. Many of us resemble those remarks.
I don't mind conservatives but MAGA are anti-America pain in the asses..
They fancy themselves "patriots" but are demonstrably flaming "hatriots." Give them someone to look down on, and they'll prove it. Have you ever noticed how you can repeat something over and over yet they continue to lie repeatedly against all evidence to the contrary? It's like they're determined to prove their stupidity that is obviously long-established and never not on full display.
You can't spell hatred without a red hat...
This is brilliant, and I'm definitely repeating it. :)