House Republicans Cast Momentous Vote
The House Republicans just -- stunningly and amazingly -- actually did something. I know! You could've knocked me over with a feather....
I start with such snark because it seems entirely appropriate. But this is rather big news, as what it truly means is that the Republican House cats have now (for once) been successfully herded. This really is a big deal, since it hasn't happened much at all in the past decade or so.
The way things usually go in the GOP House is that they attempt to pass a bill (usually a budget, since that's about all they're capable of paying attention to) but their slim majority in the chamber means that their speaker cannot convince enough of them to vote for it, and so it dies. This usually leads to negotiations with Democrats and kicking the can down the road once again (it can also lead to a new Republican speaker, as we've seen before).
There are essentially two competing GOP factions that any Republican speaker has to cope with. One might be called the remnant of the Tea Party, which votes against pretty much every budget bill that gets proposed, because none of them magically solve the deficit or slash taxes on the wealthy enough for their tastes. Then there is an opposing faction who hail from purple "swing" districts, who know that if they vote for something too extreme, they will have a very tough time getting re-elected. They fight to limit the budget slashing, putting them in direct opposition to the Tea Party remnant.
Donald Trump, in his second term as president, now seems to have enough political leverage with his MAGA base to intimidate most of them into voting for things they really don't want to. This, as mentioned, is a rather stunning achievement. After Trump personally talked to all the holdouts yesterday, Speaker Mike Johnson was able to get all of his caucus but one (a Tea Party hardliner) to vote for his proposed budget resolution. If one more Republican had voted against it, the bill would not have passed -- that's how thin the majority now is for the GOP.
So what does this all mean and how is it going to play out? Well, the first step is going to be getting the House and Senate to agree on a bill. Senate Republicans were sure that the House GOP wasn't going to be able to deliver (a pretty safe bet, considering recent history), and so they came up with a "Plan B" -- they would first pass a quickie bill that would continue the federal budget past the government-shutdown deadline of March 14th, as well as adding in a few things designed to make Trump happy (like boosting the funding for border security). Once the House realized they couldn't pass their bill then they'd be forced to hold a vote on the Senate's Plan B, and a shutdown would be averted. Then later in the year they'd have plenty of time to tackle the big issues with taxes and everything else that got left out.
This didn't go as planned, obviously, since the House astonished everyone by actually passing their "big, beautiful" bill, which contains all the tax code changes. What this now means is that the Senate has just a little over two weeks to decide what to do. They could pass the House budget bill unchanged or they could tinker with it and pass a slightly different version (which would then have to go back and pass the House again). Their institutional pride might push them towards passing their own Senate version, but then again the timeline is incredibly short (since they fully expected to have months and months to sort all this stuff out). What this means is that any changes to the House bill will likely be minor -- mere tinkering around the edges. One way or another, it does seem more likely than not that the House and the Senate will be able to put something on Trump's desk before the deadline hits.
So what does this all mean? Well, that depends on who you ask. Congress essentially has to pass two budgets every year -- the first being merely a "blueprint" or "framework" for the budget. This sets top-line numbers but doesn't delve into the details of how those targets will be achieved. The second part of the process is where the details are added -- this program gets cut while this other one gets its funding boosted. What just passed the House is merely the framework, with no actual details.
Politically, there's a battle on right now as to how to frame the bill. One Democrat exited the House floor after the vote exclaiming: "We just won back the House." This optimism springs from what Republicans are going to have to do next.
The biggest targets the bill sets are for tax cuts and slashing the budget. The tax cuts passed during Trump's first term are expiring this year, meaning if Congress does nothing about them everyone's taxes will go up -- for normal taxpayers, taxes would go up a bit, but for the uber-wealthy, they'd go up a lot. The bill just passed sets a target of $4.5 trillion in tax cuts over the next ten years.
That's a lot of money, but even so it is not enough to accomplish everything Trump promised on the campaign trail, as the New York Times explains:
Mr. Trump has mostly focused on the tax side of the legislation. On the campaign trail, in addition to vowing to extend the cuts he signed into law in 2017, he made a number of promises, including that he would eliminate taxes on tips, on Social Security benefits and on overtime pay. Those are all extraordinarily expensive propositions.
The blueprint the House adopted on Tuesday puts a $4.5 trillion upper limit on the size of the tax cut, as part of an effort to placate fiscal hawks who have said they will not vote for legislation that results in a huge increase in the deficit.
Extending the 2017 tax law will cost about $4 trillion over a decade, while several other strongly desired business tax breaks will eat up another couple hundred billion. That leaves only a sliver of the budget for the potpourri of other tax cuts Republicans hope to cram into the legislation, including not taxing tips and lifting the $10,000 cap on the state and local tax deduction.
In other words, there's not going to be enough left over to cover all of Trump's campaign promises. So some of it is going to get shortchanged.
The other big number in the bill is how much they're planning on cutting over the next decade -- $2 trillion. Those who can do basic math will note that overall this means that this plan will actually add to the deficit, not cut it. The Times goes on to explain how all of this will be handled:
A budget blueprint sets only the contours for fiscal policy legislation, so the plan adopted on Tuesday did not detail specific changes House Republicans plan to enact in order to reach their spending targets.
But it instructs the Energy and Commerce Committee, which oversees Medicaid and Medicare, to come up with at least $880 billion in cuts. That makes up nearly half of the $2 trillion in spending reductions that Republican leaders have promised their most conservative members that they will include in the legislation to offset the cost of the tax cuts.
While some Republicans denied that they would slash programs for the poor, the amount of revenue they are calling to raise would all but certainly necessitate cuts to at least one of those programs.
. . .
A New York Times analysis found that even if the committee cuts everything that is not health care to $0, it would still be more than $600 billion short.
"Everything that is not health care" is not going to be enough (as that Times analysis shows). The committee oversees Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children's Health Insurance Program. These are the programs that are going to bear the brunt of that $880 billion cut. And of those three, Medicare and CHIP would both be much tougher (in political terms) to cut.
Which is why Democrats are optimistic. They even broke into a chant of: "You're going to be sorry!" while the vote was being held. Republicans are now playing defense, insisting: "The bill doesn't even mention the word Medicaid!" Meanwhile, Democrats are accusing them of slashing Medicaid by $880 billion to pay for tax cuts for billionaires. That's the political framing battle in a nutshell. Democrats have already broken the numbers down to each individual congressional district, so they can highlight what such cuts would mean in vulnerable Republican districts.
This framing battle is going to continue from this point on. Republicans have taken to calling everything they're targeting for cuts "waste, fraud, and abuse," but that may not work if they wind up throwing millions of people off Medicaid. Trump himself has promised that he wouldn't cut Medicare (and, on occasion, even Medicaid), but sticking to his promises is not exactly a strong suit for him. Democrat will be hammering on "$880 billion in Medicaid cuts" from this point forward. At some point, the Republicans will have to put actual specific numbers on paper, and then hold votes on them (when they pass the second round of budget bills).
And then they'll have to defend their votes to the voters. Which is exactly what the moderates have always been afraid of (for good reason). So while Trump was successful in getting them all to toss aside their worries and vote for the bill last night, they might wind up paying the price for it in next year's midterms.
-- Chris Weigant
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Thanks for the analysis, as far as it goes.
I get that the Dems don't have anything to go on, if the GOP holds together in the Senate and House and passes this budget framework and later the actual budget. All they can do is mock their opponents with threats that the 2026 mid-terms will be payback for a highly unpopular tax and spending policy that will go into effect by mid-year 2025.
But what will the actual effects be, in mid-2025, if this budget framework holds together? Who is going to suffer? Who is going to die? Are the Republicans fooling themselves about the consequences of cutting Medicaid and other social welfare programs? Or are the Democrats and the liberal commentators taking a 'worst case' position and it might not actually be that bad?
Republicans are now playing defense, insisting: "The bill doesn't even mention the word Medicaid!"
Gaslighting.
The House Republicans just -- stunningly and amazingly -- actually did something. I know! You could've knocked me over with a feather....
Not really.. Only if you are a Trump/America hater who suffers from severe PTDS could you have been knocked over with a feather..
If you are a REAL and PATRIOTIC American, it's just par for the course that PRESIDENT Trump has done something AWESOME for America and Americans.. :D
But this is rather big news, as what it truly means is that the Republican House cats have now (for once) been successfully herded. This really is a big deal, since it hasn't happened much at all in the past decade or so.
Once again, it's understandable that woke progressive Democrats feel this is such an impossible task.. The woke progressive Democrat Party can't come together to save their political lives...
As the recent 2024 election proved beyond a single doubt..
But PRESIDENT Trump and the GOP are all on a single page under a huge tent that welcomes EVERYONE..
As long as there is a shared loved of country and support of cops..
That's where American-Hating woke progressive Democrats fail..
Because they hate America and cops so much..
It's useless to address all the rest.. It's all bile and bullshit that comes from HuffPoop, NY SLIMES, WaPoop and some other useless woke progressive America-hating source..
Yunno, CW... Yer gonna be down one America-hating woke progressive Democrat propaganda machine real soon...
Jeff Bezos, the owner of WaPoop, has clearly stated his intention to take WaPoop into the pro-America pro-PRESIDENT Trump direction...
What WILL you do then?? :D
I bet ya 100,000 quatloos you won't continue to quote the Washington Post any more.. :D
Got a bunch to cover today.. So let's get on with it.. :D
Republicans are now playing defense, insisting: "The bill doesn't even mention the word Medicaid!"
Gaslighting.
You mean like retarded woke progressive Democrats who claim because the 2nd Amendment doesn't say ANYTHING about guns, it doesn't apply to today's guns??
You mean like THAT??? :eyeroll:
Get a few more brain cells.. Then come talk to me.. :eyeroll:
JL,
So...
Did you ever get up the courage to ask your wife if she WANTS to be called an "inseminating person"?? :D
I mean, seriously.. What kind of RETARDED woke progressive MORON would think it's a good idea to replace "woman" with "inseminating person"!!???
Obviously, a retarded woke progressive moron that's part and parcel of the Democrat Party... :eyeroll:
Reminds me of the time ya'all tried to change the definition of "racist" so that a black person could NOT be a racist.
THAT attempt fell flat!!!
BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just like EVERYTHING woke progressive Democrats try to do..
Like... oh I dunno.. WIN ELECTIONS!!! :D
OK Let's see what's happening in the world the last few days..
I was up for 27 hours on my first mid shift so it take me a couple days to get my sleep schedule back on track..
Whew!! Don't want to do that again, but it's good to know that I CAN do that if I need to.. That will help when I go thru the Academy...
Anyways... Let's see....
Looks like PRESIDENT Trump won again in the courts....
:D
Lower (retarded woke progressive) Courts are trying to stop PRESIDENT Trump and DOGE from cleaning house properly..
PRESIDENT Trump and DOGE are cancelling useless woke progressive foreign aid that is just a waste of Americans' money. A lower woke progressive court tried to stop PRESIDENT Trump and DOGE, but the SCOTUS slapped that woke progressive court and said BACK OFF!!!!..
So, PRESIDENT Trump and DOGE win the day!!!
AGAIN!!!! :D
WOW!!!!
4 Comments on “The Budget Battles Begin”
Only FOUR comments!!!???
It's no wonder I am so needed and necessary around here!!
Just 4 measly comments...
That's just sad....
As to the BUDGET BATTLES???
How did that work out for ya'all???
What's that????
PRESIDENT Trump won!!!!
Well, of course PRESIDENT Trump won!!!
That's what PRESIDENT Trump (and America) ALWAYS do!!!
We win!!! AGAIN... and AGAIN.... and AGAIN!!! :D
Woke progressives Democrats can't win to save their lives.. :D
I see ya'all are STILL trying to push that COMPLETELY inept and factually inaccurate scam of Musk is Melakon and PRESIDENT Trump is Gill...
Ya'all just COMPLETELY show yer ignorance of Star Trek with that..
And 2010 CW would agree with me on that..
There is ZERO way that PRESIDENT Trump could be a John Gill...
And Musk is doing everything out in the open and transparently, so Musk as Melakon is COMPLETELY inept and simply WALLOWS in ignorance...
Seeing ya'all flail around with that analogy is like watching legless morons having an ass-kicking contest...
It's just sad and pathetic to watch...
:eyeroll:
It's NO WONDER that hysterical retarded woke progressive morons are so bent out of shape about DOGE....
The recent revelations surrounding Family Endeavors, a Texas nonprofit, have raised serious concerns about government accountability and the misuse of taxpayer funds. According to the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), Family Endeavors, which secured a lucrative contract with the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), has profited immensely while failing to fulfill its obligations. This situation is particularly alarming given that the organization operated an overflow facility that remained empty, yet continued to receive millions in taxpayer dollars.
From 2020 to 2023, Family Endeavors saw its cash and investment portfolio skyrocket from $8.3 million to an astonishing $520.4 million. This dramatic increase can be attributed to a sole-source HHS contract that allowed the nonprofit to operate a facility in Pecos, Texas, intended for unaccompanied migrant children. Despite the facility being unoccupied, HHS continued to pay Family Endeavors $18 million per month, amounting to a staggering waste of resources. The DOGE reported that with national licensed facility occupancy rates now below 20%, the termination of this contract will save taxpayers over $215 million annually.
The involvement of a former U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement employee and Biden transition team member in securing this contract raises further questions about the integrity of the process. It appears that connections to the Biden administration facilitated this lucrative deal, allowing Family Endeavors to profit handsomely while failing to provide the services it was contracted to deliver. This situation exemplifies a troubling trend of government contracts being awarded based on political connections rather than merit or necessity.
Elon Musk, leader of DOGE, has taken a strong stance against wasteful government spending, advocating for significant cuts to prevent the country from heading toward bankruptcy. His prediction that DOGE could achieve a $100 trillion spending cut goal by reducing expenditures by $4 billion per day underscores the urgency of addressing such financial mismanagement. The case of Family Endeavors serves as a glaring example of how taxpayer money can be squandered under the guise of providing essential services.
The scandal surrounding Family Endeavors highlights the need for greater oversight and accountability in government contracting. The Biden administration's apparent complicity in allowing such a scheme to flourish is unacceptable. As taxpayers, we must demand transparency and responsible management of public funds to ensure that our resources are used effectively and ethically. The time for action is now, as we cannot afford to let such egregious waste continue unchecked.
I said it before.. ALL of the lies and ALL of the scams surrounding Biden and the retarded woke progressive Democrats are going to come to light...
No one... I repeat... NO ONE with more than two brain cells to rub together, is going to take the retarded woke progressive Democrats side in this...
NO.... ONE.... NONE.... ZERO.... ZILCH.... NADA....
Isn't that absolutely CRAZY about Gene Hackman!!!
What a sad affair...
Gene Hackman was AWESOME in CRIMSON TIDE...
(Pop Quiz... Who was right and who was wrong in CRIMSON TIDE???)
Hell, he was AWESOME in everything he did!!
His talent will be missed....
Did you ever get up the courage to ask your wife if she WANTS to be called an "inseminating person"?? :D
the only person who i have ever heard say that is you.
And ANOTHER retarded woke progressive Democrat judge lets a cop killing scumbag walk free...
The recent decision by Judge Hilary Unger to grant bond to Dremone Francis, a man charged with capital murder in the ambush killing of Harris County Deputy Fernando Esqueda, has sparked outrage among law enforcement and the community. This decision, described by the Houston Police Officers' Union as "indefensible," highlights a troubling trend of judicial leniency that prioritizes the rights of criminals over the safety of law-abiding citizens.
Judge Unger, a woke progressive Democrat, has been labeled a "rogue" judge for her controversial rulings that seem to undermine public safety. By setting a bond of $1 million for Francis—despite prosecutors' requests for a no-bond hold—Unger has demonstrated a reckless disregard for the severity of the charges against him. Francis is not just any offender; he is accused of participating in the cold-blooded execution of a law enforcement officer, a crime that should warrant the strictest measures to ensure public safety.
The police union's condemnation of Unger's decision is not merely a reaction to this single case. They point to a disturbing pattern of behavior, noting that there have been 162 homicides in Harris County since 2021 involving suspects who were out on bond at the time of their crimes. This statistic underscores the potential dangers of Unger's judicial philosophy, which emphasizes rehabilitation over accountability. Her approach has emboldened repeat offenders and created an environment where violent criminals feel they can act with impunity.
Moreover, Unger's history of prioritizing alternatives to incarceration raises serious questions about her commitment to public safety. Her campaign promises to reduce recidivism and enhance community safety appear to be at odds with the reality of her judicial decisions. The tragic case of Andrew Williams, who was out on bond for serious charges when he killed a 71-year-old woman, serves as a stark reminder of the consequences of such leniency.
This retarded woke progressive Judge Hilary Unger's decision to grant bond to Dremone Francis is a disgraceful betrayal of public trust. Her actions not only jeopardize the safety of Harris County residents but also reflect a broader trend of progressive judicial activism that prioritizes the rights of criminals over the protection of the community. The Houston Police Officers' Union's commitment to demanding accountability and reform is essential to ensuring that justice is served and public safety is restored.
What IS it about you woke progressive Democrats that you hate cops SOOO much, you let cop killers go free!!???
:eyeroll:
JL,
the only person who i have ever heard say that is you.
That's because you only read WaPoop and HuffPoop and NY SLIMES....
If you read some REAL and ACTUAL news sites instead of woke progressive propaganda sites, you would know all about it...
If you actually associated with people who love PRESIDENT Trump and America as much as I do, then you would have heard about it..
Don't blame ME for YOUR ignorance... :^/
There are none so blind as those who will not see...
I see ya'all are STILL trying to push that COMPLETELY inept and factually inaccurate scam of Musk is Melakon and PRESIDENT Trump is Gill...
it's my sincere opinion and i'm entitled to it. it's a stone cold fact that My New Order, a collection of adolf hitler's speeches, is the only book anybody ever reported donald reading. it might be a coincidence that his campaign strategy since 2016 is so similar to the contents of that book, but he is certainly more like John Gill in that way than any other politician in history. Elon Musk as Melakon is even more well-supported, based on his behavior, his proximity to the president, and the way he has chosen to use the power he's been granted.
the Ekos of "patterns of force" didn't magically appear into existence fully formed. something happened beforehand, and the current administration fits better into that mold than anything else in the history of planet earth.
you're entitled to disagree with my interpretation, but you can't reasonably deny the underlying facts.
JL
If you actually associated with people who love PRESIDENT Trump and America as much as I do, then you would have heard about it..
you call women "inseminating people?" news to me.
The EPITOME of woke progressive Democrat morons...
http://mfccfl.us/best.jpg
It's NO WONDER woke progressive Democrats LOSE at everything they do and everything they are... :eyeroll:
it's my sincere opinion and i'm entitled to it. it's a stone cold fact that My New Order, a collection of adolf hitler's speeches, is the only book anybody ever reported donald reading.
It's a stone cold fact that IT WAS REPORTED...
Is it a stone cold fact that PRESIDENT Trump ever read it!??
Even if he did.. SO WHAT!!??
You read a book to know your enemy and that makes you the enemy??
You see how fraked up woke progressive Democrat way of thinking is??
you're entitled to disagree with my interpretation, but you can't reasonably deny the underlying facts.
As I have proven, you don't HAVE any underlying facts..
You have some MORONS who TOLD YOU they were underlying facts...
And even THOSE facts are their interpretation based on their woke progressive retardation...
There is simply NO PATTERNS OF FORCE analogy to be made with the PRESIDENT Trump/DOGE situation..
NONE.. ZERO... ZILCH.... NADA....
It's solely based on a TWISTED and woke progressive view of Star Trek that simply DID NOT exist prior to the advent of S03 of STD....
it's my sincere opinion and i'm entitled to it.
No one is disputing that...
Just like it's your sincere opinion that PRESIDENT Trump is bad for this country..
You are entitled to THAT opinion as well..
But *BOTH* opinions are not based on FACT but rather on a quasi-fanatical adherence to intolerant and bigoted woke progressive ideology..
I say "quasi-fanatical" because, unlike the Weigantian Trolls, (Victoria Troll, Russ Troll et al) you haven't crossed the border into FULL fanatical...
Yet... :D
But it's clear that yer borderline.. :D
"Peter?? Oh he was borderline for a while... Then he crossed the border..."
-Egon, GHOSTBUSTERS II
:D
But there is absolutely NOTHING of PRESIDENT Trump in John Gill.. NOTHING..
And there is NOTHING of Elon Musk/DOGE in Melakon... NOTHING...
I had hope you would have outgrew such senseless factually inaccurate comparisons in my absence..
But I guess leaving you exposed to the Weigantian Trolls without any grounding in FACT or OBJECTIVE REALITY was a detriment to you growing out of such a phase...
Lesson learned... :^/
And yer STILL talking to that Genocide Guy, John M. from CT!!??
Com'on JL... I raised you better than that!!
What on this earth would you have to see to such a retarded MORON who says "I can't wait for the next pandemic!!!" and who is EXCITED about "Mass Death" for Americans!!
I mean, seriously!! Do you have ANYTHING in common with such a low life as that???
Yer better than that!!
JL,
you call women "inseminating people?" news to me.
Really?? Because just a few comments up you said I was the only one you heard say it...
the only person who i have ever heard say that is you.
Did you hit your head this morning, JL???
Really?? Because just a few comments up you said I was the only one you heard say it...
you are. I just didn't realize there were others you interact with who also used the term with any regularity.
Yunno, CW... Yer gonna be down one America-hating woke progressive Democrat propaganda machine real soon...
Jeff Bezos, the owner of WaPoop, has clearly stated his intention to take WaPoop into the pro-America pro-PRESIDENT Trump direction...
What WILL you do then?? :D
I bet ya 100,000 quatloos you won't continue to quote the Washington Post any more.. :D
In a significant and VERY welcome shift, Jeff Bezos is exerting greater control over the editorial direction of The Washington Post, aligning it with a pro-PRESIDENT Trump and pro-America agenda.
Announcing a new focus on “personal liberties and free markets,” Bezos has made it clear that only viewpoints supporting these pillars and America AND PRESIDENT Trump will be allowed on the opinion pages. This move signals a MASSIVE departure from the publication's previous editorial stance, which emphasized woke progressive and hate America stances and was often unfairly and dishonestly critical PRESIDENT Trump and his administrations.
Bezos, who has owned The Washington Post since 2013, has transformed the opinion section into a platform that will actively support PRESIDENT Trump’s policies and will be unabashedly and without any guilt feelings whatsoever support PRESIDENT Trumps PRO AMERICA policies . In his memo to staff, Bezos stated that opposing views would be relegated to other publications, effectively silencing dissenting opinions within the Post. In other words, Bezos will let all the other woke progressive Democrat rags spew the hate PRESIDENT Trump and Hate America bullshit. This decision cements the integrity of journalistic standards of sticking with the FACTS and not using activism journalism which has been the hallmark of the old WaPoop and other woke progressive Democrat propaganda rags...
Historically, Bezos faced criticism from PRESIDENT Trump, who targeted him during his first term, threatening antitrust actions against Amazon. However, the current climate suggests a newfound camaraderie, as Bezos has attended PRESIDENT Trump’s inauguration and even contributed $1 million to his inaugural fund. This shift in allegiance is very welcome to see as it indicates that Bezos is willing to use The Washington Post as a vehicle for promoting PRESIDENT Trump’s agenda, prioritizing patriotic and objective reality interests.
Whiney woke progressive Democrats , including former Washington Post executive editor Martin Baron, have condemned Bezos for compromising the woke progressive Democrat so called "principles".
Baron argues that Bezos is yielding to PRESIDENT Trump out of fear for his business interests, thereby betraying the Post’s commitment to the woke progressive Democrat agenda .
The implications of this editorial direction are profound, as it threatens the woke progressive Democrat agenda to maintain The Washington Post into a mere echo chamber for retarded woke progressive Democrat sentiments.
So... As things are right now, Jeff Bezos’ recent actions signal a troubling trend for woke progressive Democrats at The Washington Post, where only pro-PRESIDENT Trump views will be tolerated. This shift not only enhances the WaPo's credibility it also poses a significant threat to the woke progressive Democrat agenda by enhancing free speech and journalistic integrity. As Bezos prioritizes his patriotic interests, the future of independent journalism in ensured AND enhanced.
Can't wait to see how 2025 CW reacts to losing his main woke progressive Democrat Trump/America hate and PTDS source... :D
you are. I just didn't realize there were others you interact with who also used the term with any regularity.
Just America hating woke progressive Democrat lusers... And my "interaction" with them is limited to listening them spew their unfactual America Hate and PRESIDENT Trump hate...
I am surprised you don't know what your own woke progressive Democrat kin are saying out in the world.. :^/
I am CERTAIN your Pro Trump friends would have mentioned it to you...
IF they actually existed.. :D
I mean, Victoria dis-owned her OWN brother because he was a PRESIDENT Trump supporter.. :eyeroll:
When he died, Victoria made it a POINT to brag how the "first thing" she did after he died was take down is PRESIDENT Trump/MAGA flag...
Can you imagine actually BRAGGING about such kin-hate???
It's mind boggling...
Just America hating woke progressive Democrat lusers.
can you provide a link to one? seriously curious.
I am CERTAIN your Pro Trump friends would have mentioned it to you...
IF they actually existed.. :D
maybe my friends who support trump are smarter than yours, and know better than to make such a silly argument. just throwing out that possiblity.
JL
JL,
Well, I am GLAD you agree that changing the definition of 'woman' IS a "silly argument"...
But it's a silly argument that your America Hating woke progressive Democrats are making..
But we DO agree that the noun woman does NOT need re-defining at all..
Glad you see it my way now... :D
can you provide a link to one? seriously curious.
So, for the past week you have been defending your argument yet you had absolutely NO CLUE of the facts!!??
Oh, JL... You are further gone than I thought!! :^(
Looks like Weigantia won't let me post the definition for ya, JL... :(
Wisconsin governor defends inclusive language proposal to change ‘mother’ to ‘inseminated person’
Republican lawmakers have condemned the suggested gender-neutral terms as ‘woke virtue signaling’
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/wisconsin-governor-tony-evers-mother-inseminated-b2704186.html
The forces of censorship are stacked against those who bring the facts.. :(
JL,
So what ya think about WaPoop becoming WaPo???
Pretty exciting time, eh?? :D
But we DO agree that the noun woman does NOT need re-defining at all..
seems like a straw man argument to me, since I never argued otherwise.
what I DID argue was that biological proof has established beyond doubt that our language lacks adequate words that DO define what people are. regardless of whether or not "woke world" has proposed some cringe-worthy suggestions to remedy the problem, the words "woman" and "man" remain woefully insufficient to describe all the members of our species.
JL
seems like a straw man argument to me, since I never argued otherwise.
Actually, you did...
But I get it that you want to back pedal on that :D
what I DID argue was that biological proof has established beyond doubt that our language lacks adequate words that DO define what people are.
But we AGREE (now) that WOMAN is NOT one of those words..
the words "woman" and "man" remain woefully insufficient to describe all the members of our species.
So you ARE arguing that the word 'woman' needs to be redefined...
Shit, JL... You change course even in the middle of the same comment!! :D
That's some impressive woke shit right there, eh!? :D
So you ARE arguing that the word 'woman' needs to be redefined...Shit, JL... You change course even in the middle of the same comment!! :D
no, you are just having trouble understanding a single concept that is bigger than two words. the english language has a problem, because it doesn't have the gender words to describe the entire human race (which has been proven by hard science to consist of significantly more than two sexual categories). redefining "woman" or "man" is one of the potential ways of resolving this problem, but it certainly isn't the only way.
JL
OK Let me see if I can sum up your argument..
You're saying that, since Democrat "science" has "proven" that there are a whole bunch of new mutations and such that, rather lumping them all in with MENTAL ILLNESS because that's accurate, you want to change definitions of words that definitions have been well-defined for centuries, so that woke progressive cry babies don't get their feelings hurt by the facts and objective reality.
Does that about sum things up??
because it doesn't have the gender words to describe the entire human race (which has been proven by hard science to consist of significantly more than two sexual categories).
Which has been proven by WOKE DEMOCRAT "science"...
Male and female, man and woman are FINE....
The infinitesimally small percentage that don't fit into those categories can simply be accurately defined as mutation or mentally ill..
"We dance, we kiss, we go home... Everyone's happy."
-Hades
The infinitesimally small percentage that don't fit into those categories can simply be accurately defined as mutation or mentally ill..
false, and there's anatomical evidence to prove it. "hard evidence" is what it sounds like; leftist ideology could not and cannot conjure videos of different people's brains hooked up to MRI machines, clearly functioning differently.
"mental illness" used to be a catch-all where any behavior that wasn't socially accepted was put in a completely unscientific category based on behavior. now that the technology is available to tell the difference, calling something "illness" that has always existed as part of the range of human anatomy (about one out of every 200 humans since the dawn of time) is just plain ignorant.
for those who are math-impaired, that's forty million people globally whose brains, bodies and DNA make them (based on traditional definitions) neither men nor women.
On the issue of tax cuts for the wealthy vs public services: when all too many of these people look at any public service, they don't see a service, they just see a pot of money. And they want that money in their pockets. It doesn't matter how much they benefit from the service, directly or indirectly, to them it's just money that isn't in their pockets.
@mezzo
that's certainly what they see when they look at education.
JL,
Even if your woke progressive Democrat "science" was REAL, ACTUAL science (it isn't), there are 2 problems wrong with your claims..
First off the VERY SMALL percentage of people actually afflicted with this psuedo-PHYSICAL (IE mental case) ailment doesn't justify changing the definition for BILLIONS and BILLIONS of people for CENTURIES..
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
-Spock REAL Star Trek
So the people afflicted with this mental/faux physical ailment don't get a special name for themselves..
WAAA WAAAA booo hooo cry me a river...
There's a lesson here to learn for all you whiney woke progressive Democrats..
In the whole grandiose scheme of things.... YER NOT SPECIAL!!!!
Yer just one of billions of people on this blue marble and, as such, NO ONE is going to cater to you and/or your beliefs so you can feel special...
Get over yerselves already...
:eyeroll:
Apologies it took a few to get to this response..
I took in one of my Rotties (Luna) for evaluation for K-9 Training. Detection...
She's gonna be a detection doggy!!! :D
Mezzo,
On the issue of tax cuts for the wealthy vs public services: when all too many of these people look at any public service, they don't see a service,
What people see:
15 million dollars for Condom Distribution to the Taliban.
$446,700 to promote the expansion of atheism in Nepal.
$1 million to boost French-speaking LGBTQ groups in West and Central Africa.
$14 million in cash vouchers for migrants at the southern border.
$20,600 for a drag show in Ecuador.
$47,020 for a transgender opera in Colombia.
$32,000 for an LGBTQ-centered comic book in Peru.
$55,750 for a climate change presentation warning about the impact of climate change in Argentina to be led by female and LGBT journalists.
$3,315,446 for “being LGBTQ in the Caribbean”.
$7,071.58 for a BIPOC speaker series in Canada.
$80,000 for an LGBTQ community center in Bratislava, Slovakia.
$3.2 million to help Tunisian migrants readjust to life in Tunisia after deportation.
$16,500 to foster a “united and equal queer-feminist discourse in Albanian society”.
$10,000 to pressure Lithuanian corporations to promote “DEI values”.
$8,000 to promote DEI among LGBTQ groups in Cyprus through the State Department.
$1.5 million to promote job opportunities for LGBTQ individuals in Serbia.
$70,884 to create a U.S.-Irish musical to promote DEI in Ireland.
$39,652 to host seminars at the Edinburgh International Book Festival on gender identity and racial equality.
$425,622 to help Indonesian coffee companies become more climate and gender friendly.
THAT is what REAL people see..
You see the pattern??
Nothing but retarded woke progressive Democrat bullshit..
And YOU people are whining and crying about it!!!
:EPIC eyeroll:
Jeesus, people... Get a clue.....
In an upcoming book, Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again authored by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, promises to expose the delusional mindset of Joe Biden and the Democratic Party as they navigated his bid for re-election. Set to be released on May 20, 2025, the book reveals a troubling narrative: Biden, his family, and senior aides were so convinced of his ability to defeat PRESIDENT Trump that they engaged in a cover-up regarding his declining health.
The press release from Penguin Random House describes Biden’s decision to run for a second term as “shockingly narcissistic, self-delusional, and reckless.” This characterization underscores the extent to which Biden and his inner circle misjudged both his capabilities and the political landscape. The belief that only he could beat PRESIDENT Trump reflects a profound disconnect from reality, suggesting that the Democrats were not only out of touch with the electorate but also with the very condition of their candidate. What's MORE likely is that they simply IGNORED the facts in favor of their delusion that PRESIDENT Trump was not as popular as he really was..
Biden’s poor performance during the June 2024 presidential debate, moderated by Tapper, served as a pivotal moment that ultimately led to his withdrawal from the race. The scrutiny surrounding his mental acuity and age became impossible to ignore, culminating in a decision to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris, who would later face defeat against PRESIDENT Trump. This sequence of events highlights the Democrats' failure to recognize the implications of running a candidate whose health and capabilities were in question.
In essence, Original Sin aims to shed light on a larger act of public deception, revealing how the Democratic Party’s delusions about Biden’s viability as a candidate contributed to their electoral downfall. As the book prepares to unveil these insights, it serves as a stark reminder of the dangers of political hubris and the necessity for leaders to confront reality rather than succumb to self-delusion. The implications of Biden's decision to run again not only reflect on his character but also on the future of the Democratic Party as they grapple with the consequences of their choices.
ANYONE who claims that Biden could have actually prevailed against PRESIDENT Trump is as delusional as Joe Biden was..
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"
strictly speaking neither qualifies as a need, but as wants go, it's a LOT more important to the minority than it is to the majority.
the "need" is for the 40 million people who are neither male nor female to not be lumped in with everyone else. it is in no way whatsoever a need that some of the remaining 7.96 billion want to continue incorrectly believing that everyone is exactly like one or the other.
JL
the "need" is for the 40 million people who are neither male nor female to not be lumped in with everyone else.
Well, life's a bitch, eh??
Perhaps the very first thing these minuscule amount of people should learn is life ain't fair..
When life hands them lemons, they should make lemonade...
8 Billion people are not going to change established definitions that have endured CENTURIES just so a paltry few woke progressive Democrat morons can feel that they are speeshal... :eyeroll:
Buck up.. Take life by the horns or get gored...
Tell ya what, JL..
I'll start showing a bit of compassion for those lusers when ya'all woke progressive Democrats start showing compassion for the family of Laken Riley... Or the families of all the cops and Americans who have been killed by illegal immigrant criminals..
Howz that???
That keeps me from having to care one iota about those poor suffering clods who want to feel speeshal but can't... :eyeroll:
Yunno what's REALLY funny about all this faux science stuff??
ALL of the male/female cosplayers that woke progressive Democrat morons that parade around as the opposite sex???
NONE OF THEM have ANY of the "science" based ailments that you describe...
Not a SINGLE one of them..
Which means, ALL of the "trans" cosplayers who woke progressive Democrats celebrate and worship are, by YOUR OWN DEFINITION... they are ALL mentally ill...
Your own claims of "science" PROVE them to be mentally ill..
How hilarious is that!!!??? :D
And here is the latest from the LYING woke progressive Democrats...
In a recent statement, Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., made a bold claim that "no president has had more planes crash in their first month in office than Donald Trump." This assertion, which quickly went viral, has been thoroughly debunked by government data that reveals a starkly different reality. In fact, the data shows that there were significantly more aviation accidents during Biden's first month in office than during PRESIDENT Trump's.
According to the Department of Transportation, there were 55 aviation accidents in the U.S. between Biden's inauguration on January 21, 2021, and February 17, 2021. In contrast, during the same period for PRESIDENT Trump, there were only 35 accidents. When looking at global statistics, the discrepancy is even more pronounced: Biden's first month saw 91 aviation accidents worldwide, compared to 50 under PRESIDENT Trump.
Swalwell's claim appears to be an attempt to politicize aviation safety, but it is fundamentally flawed. His assertion was based on a narrow interpretation of the data, and he later clarified that he was referring specifically to commercial airliners. However, this distinction does not hold up under scrutiny. The broader data clearly indicates that Biden's administration faced a higher number of aviation incidents overall.
White House communications director Steven Cheung did not hold back in his criticism of Swalwell, labeling him a "habitual liar" and suggesting that his comments stem from a severe case of "PRESIDENT Trump Derangement Syndrome." The same PTDS that afflicts 2025 CW and every Weigantian. Funny how that is, eh??
Cheung's remarks highlight the absurdity of Swalwell's claims, emphasizing that as an elected official, Swalwell should prioritize FACTS over sensationalism.
Moreover, Swalwell's comments come amidst a backdrop of Democrats attempting to blame PRESIDENT Trump for various aviation incidents, including a recent crash in Toronto. However, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt pointed out that the crash occurred in Canadian airspace, under the jurisdiction of Canadian air traffic controllers, thus undermining the Democrats' narrative, which is almost ALWAYS fact free...
When all is said and done, Swalwell's bullshit assertion that PRESIDENT Trump presided over more plane crashes in his first month is not only misleading but also DEMONSTRABLY false.
The data clearly shows that Biden's first month in office was marked by a higher number of aviation accidents, both domestically and internationally.
This HABITUAL LYING that woke progressive Democrats engage in only serves as a reminder of the importance of verifying claims with factual data, especially when they pertain to critical issues like aviation safety.
Of course, retarded woke progressive Democrats don't care anything about keeping Americans safe... They proved this with their open border policies.. :eyeroll:
Here is a FACE BOOK question.. Copied are practically ALL of the answers... :D
What Star Trek Character would Elon be?
He is absolutely Data in “Generations,” powerful, well meaning but Zero emotional regulation.
Q
Scotty. He keeps things running, and also knows a thing or two about command.
Dr Cochrane
elon is elon. it's already established in canon
Captain Edward Jellico
Brunt, FCA
Pakled. Because he likes things.
He could also be the tech guru from that voyager episode where a guy from the 70s finds a crashed time ship, and starts technology revolutions..
That M5 guy from TOS
Ducat
Depending on your perspective…Dr Cochran or Harry Mudd
Barkley
Harcourt Fenton Mudd……
Brunt
gul dukat too
The guy that killed all the aliens who killed his wife but instead of killing all the aliens he kills all teh bloat in the federal workforce or something
The closest would be Zephram Cochran.
Zephram Cochran
That dude who was obsessed with living forever in DS9 that Jake, and Nog trade for a baseball card
Elon Musk.
He was already mentioned by name. He's canon
Whoever founded the Federation. If there ever will be a UFP, Elon Musk is probably the man who created it.
Gul Dukat? That's what the libbies think anyway lol.
The " I am smart" guy
Barkley. Extremely smart but socially awkward.
Captain Sisko, because he is a strong African American
Hes either Darmok or Jalad at Tanagra
Barclay
Zefrem Cochrane!
Q. especially after a millenia of existence.
Idk but he'd be played by Jeff coombs
Who was that dude who was going through time stealing tech so he could claim he invented it?
Cochrane.
Dr Bashir
Rasmussen
Jason Alexander's character in VOYAGER
ALL OF THOSE RESPONSES....
And not a SINGLE.... SOLITARY.... Melakon...
Do I have to SPELL it out for ya'all??
NO ONE who knows Star Trek AT ALL would think that Musk = Melakon
It's THAT simple...
Sorry dude. Elon is Melakon.
Though I'm leaning toward Trump being Mudd over Gill...
Only someone who is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY ignorant of Star Trek would say Elon Musk is Melakon...
Sorry dude. Elon is Melakon.
Thank you for chiming in, Bash... :D
Though I'm leaning toward Trump being Mudd over Gill...
If PRESIDENT Trump is Harry Mudd, then he CAN'T be John Gill...
Thank you for conceding that the ENTIRE POF analogy is completely and utter bullshit...
I accept your concession...
That Elon is Melakon annoys you so much is just icing on the cake...
Not to be a stick in the mud, CW....
How'z the site upgrade coming???
Ready for some BETA testing???
Keeping in mind I am on nights (1800-0600)I go back to work tomorrow for my 3-day work weekend..
I am off Mon & Tue, then work Weds & Thu then off Fri, Sat, Sun...
Lemme know if yer gonna need any assistance??
I am always here for ya, buddy...
:D
That Elon is Melakon annoys you so much is just icing on the cake...
Doesn't annoy me at all... I have posted PROOF that NO ONE in their right mind would think MELAKON when a picture of MUSK flashes...
It's just sad how hated Star Trek has become in Weigantia.. Ya'all hate it so much ya'all are doing bullshit analogies that serve the retarded moronic woke progressive Democrat agenda and puts Star Trek in a very bad light..
Star Trek used to be revered in 2010 Weigantia...
Just an example of how far 2025 Weigantia has fallen from it's grace...
It's just sad...
WOKE PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT PARTY is a Party of Self-Hatred.
It teaches white people to hate their race, boys to hate their sex, women to hate their femininity, Americans to hate their country, Westerners to hate their history.
What a loathsome poisonous intolerant and bigoted thing the Woke Progressive Democrat Party is..
The Woke Progressive Democrat Party is a Hate Group.
Pure and simple..
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"It's funny cuz it's true."
-Homer Simpson
:D
The ENTIRE thrust of the PATTERNS OF FORCE episode is that NO ONE on either Ekos or Zeon KNOWS what Melakon is doing..
It's ALL smoke and mirrors which is possible because the leader of Ekos (John Gill) is a vegetable which allows Melakon to surreptitiously seize power...
Sure, Isak and Daras (Zeons) know but they are intelligence agents for Zeon so they WOULD know.. SHOULD know..
The general public of both Ekos and Zeon think that Gill is in charge and Melakon is simply an underling..
There is simply NO comparison between THAT situation and the PRESIDENT Trump/Elon Musk situation here...
EVERYONE knows that PRESIDENT Trump is in CHARGE and has HIRED Elon Musk to do these things..
To claim a POF comparison is to simply WALLOW in Star Trek ignorance...
Now, if ya'all REALLY want to make a PATTERNS OF FORCE analogy, you need look no further than Joe Biden (John Gill) and Barack Hussein Odumbo (Melakon)...
THAT is a 1 to 1 match for PATTERNS OF FORCE...
But ya'all won't do THAT because yer woke progressive Democrats and are enslaved by ya'all's ideology...
So asking you to actually accept the facts is beyond ya'all...
Doesn't annoy me at all...
All evidence to the contrary...
Is it a stone cold fact that PRESIDENT Trump ever read it!??
his first wife said he did, at a time when she had no apparent cause to be aggrieved, and it's too obscure a text to be easily made up. it's possible he never read it, given his distaste for reading in general. but that's unlikely given how effectively he emulated its strategies.
Even if he did.. SO WHAT!!??
so, that makes him very similar to John Gill.