Get Ready For Prices To Go Up
So is everyone ready to pay more for stuff? Because that certainly seems like what is next on the agenda for the American consumer. We'll be paying more for food in the grocery store, more for electronic goods, and a whole bunch more for cars, starting tomorrow.
Or maybe not. You never know what's going to happen, since American trade policy will now be decided on a whim. By a man who simply does not understand how world trade works. Isn't that a comforting thought?
President Donald Trump proudly displays this ignorance repeatedly. To him, a trade deficit with another country means they are "ripping us off" or that we are "subsidizing" them. To him, tariffs are paid "by the other country," which doesn't affect the prices consumers pay one bit. Neither one of these things are the least bit true, but nobody seems to be able to explain these basic lessons of economics to him.
This is all in the news because tomorrow Trump might just levy 25 percent tariffs on everything (or maybe just some things) from both Mexico and Canada. The key word there is "might," because nobody knows whether they will in fact be announced or whether Trump will punt the deadline another month. When he first announced his tariff plans, the leaders of both countries called him up (and calmed him down) and he gave them a month before the tariffs would go into effect. That month is up tomorrow, but who knows what Trump will ultimately decide?
There's an old saying that "when all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail" that seems to apply here. Trump loves tariffs for one big reason above all else -- he can levy them without involving Congress at all. It's all on his say-so, which is just how he likes it. Trump's announced reason for these tariffs was to secure the borders and halt the flow of fentanyl into America. But this is a little ridiculous for Canada, since there never has been a crisis of any sort on our northern border (with regards to people entering), and the amount of fentanyl smuggled in from Canada is miniscule (less than one percent of what enters from Mexico).
At times, Trump seems to relish permanent tariffs bringing in tons of money and somehow solving our budget problems. At other times, Trump seems to wield the threat of tariffs as bargaining leverage against other countries (often for unrelated issues). Or merely to force other countries' leaders to butter him up with lots of fawning praise. Or perhaps it is to protect American industries? The rationale shifts -- it is never consistently one thing or another.
The outcome (if the tariffs are actually applied for an extended period of time) is going to be higher prices for American consumers, though. That much is clear. If a product is made or grown in a foreign country and sold for a profit here, it means that the company that produces it can do so at a cheaper rate than it can be manufactured or grown here. So even assuming for the sake of argument that American companies could somehow immediately replace those imported products on the market, by definition it means that those products will be more expensive. And the people who sell these products aren't going to do so at a loss, so that price hike will be passed on to consumers, in the form of higher prices for cars or vegetables or beer or whatever else.
Or perhaps American companies can't just throw some magic switch and start producing the product here at home (because they've got to build a new factory to do so, for instance), which means that the foreign supplier will still be selling the same product to American consumers -- but now with a premium added to cover the cost of the new tariff. Which means, once again, prices go up for Americans.
Consumers are the ones who pay the costs of tariffs, plain and simple. Not the government of either Mexico or Canada. The tariff adds to the price of goods, which makes it more expensive to produce, and therefore the company that sells the end product raises the price to the consumer to cover the new cost.
The Washington Post has a good article today which maps out some examples of what this could mean for automobile parts. One of their examples starts with aluminum smelted in Québec (where it is less expensive to do so because electricity is cheap and plentiful there). The ingots then travel to Mexico, where they are cast into molds (which is cost-effective to do there because labor is cheap). These rough casings then travel back to Canada, where they are precision-machined. They then enter the United States and are assembled into a rear differential assembly in North Carolina, before finally winding up in a plant in Indiana where the whole thing is installed into a new truck. Another example follows steel produced in Pennsylvania down to Mexico, back to Michigan, up to Canada, and then back to Kansas City before winding up in a Ford F-150's suspension. And those are just two parts out of the tens of thousands required to make a new car. Paying 25 percent every time such a part crosses the American border would add thousands of dollars to the price of a new car.
Of course, all those plants in Canada and Mexico could move to the United States. But not instantaneously -- getting a factory built and tooled-up can take years. It would also require a lot of investment money to be spent. And even when it does get up and rolling, the parts they make will (again, by definition) be more expensive to make here. So even if this were all to happen in the blink of an eye, the cost of a new car would still go up for the American consumer -- just perhaps not quite as much as with the tariffs.
This are just a few examples from one industry, mind you. But the tariffs won't only hit auto makers, they'll hit across a wide range of products -- such as the lumber needed to build new houses, for instance. Which means the price on a huge range of products could go up sharply for Americans very soon.
There's a specific term for prices going up across a broad range of industries simultaneously, leading to price hikes for consumers -- it is called "inflation." Inflation has already ticked up a bit under Trump's watch, and it could go a lot higher very quickly if he does follow through with his tariffs on Mexico and Canada.
This is already having a negative impact on an important index of manufacturing activity, ever since Trump announced the tariff plan right after he first took office (and even though he postponed them for a month):
The [Institute for Supply Management's] Manufacturing Purchasing Managers Index for February was 50.3, down from 50.9 the month before, and below Wall Street's expectations. Input prices rose at their fastest pace since mid-2022, when consumer price inflation was at a 40-year high.
"Prices growth accelerated due to tariffs, causing new order placement backlogs, supplier delivery stoppages and manufacturing inventory impacts," [I.S.M. chair Timothy] Fiore said. "Although tariffs do not go into force until mid-March, spot commodity prices have already risen about 20 percent."
In midafternoon trading Monday, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was down more than 1.5 percent.
As the president deliberated, analysts and executives tried to read the administration's tea leaves.
Many importers have refrained from rearranging their supply chains while they wait for a clearer signal from the White House.
Please note that bit about the Dow sinking. Big Business hates uncertainty, since they must make their business plans years in advance. But with Trump's "on again, off again" tariff threats, this becomes impossible to do. What are they supposed to do if Trump levies the tariff, but then in another month or two lifts them again because he is now satisfied with the borders? How are you supposed to plan for that?
The worst case scenario here is that Trump's tariffs (worldwide, not just on our two closest neighbors) disrupt the economy to such an extent that we enter an entirely-avoidable recession. But even the best case scenario is that we manage to avoid a recession while prices still go up for American consumers, causing at least a short-term rise in inflation. Even if Trump decides to wait another month, if industry stops producing goods to any extent it will lead to a smaller supply -- and when supply goes down but demand stays the same, prices will go up.
Consumers are already negatively reacting. The concept of tariffs is not popular, to put it mildly. Democrats, during the election campaign last year, took to calling this a "Trump tax" on everything. If the tariffs do go into effect tomorrow, I would hope they start using this term again, whenever they talk about the economy. Because a whole lot of people who voted for Trump did so in the hopes that prices would go down -- not up.
-- Chris Weigant
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Thanks for this clear and ominous survey of the current 'tariff' situation.
I am curious whether, in fact, the Democrats will be able to make the connection between a spike in prices this summer and the president's tariff policies. You took a dozen or so paragraphs, with a lot of long words and complex concepts, to spell it out to your well-educated and politically savvy readership. What's the shorthand that makes "Trump tax" make sense to your average outraged consumer? Gee - What's the Talking Point?
when the president puts tariffs on stuff, you pay more.
Other countries don’t pay a dime of tariffs — American companies DO, hello!
And they go out of business unless they pass along ALL of that Trump tax to American consumers.
How’s that John?
If I should disappear for a while and someone named MAGA Tears for Breakfast starts posting, it may or not secretly be me.)
Or maybe Love FAFO
MtnCaddy [3] -
Thanks. Your piece makes me wonder if many people understand what a tariff is, how it works, etc.
What if the Dems rebranded it as "Tax on Imports - Paid by the Importer"? Or some such wording. I know the trick is to keep it simple, but most people are not in the wholesale import business.
Or "Trump's Tariffs are Taxes on Imports - passed on to you as higher prices for Imports"
Not doing very well at this!
John
Points for trying but I like mine better.
Successfully shrinking concepts down to bumper sticker length is especially hard in my experience.
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/putin-wins-the-trump-zelensky-oval-office-spectacle-e23e9b21
Wall Street journal, go fig.
How about the simple: Trump is raising taxes on business? Or just: Trump is raising taxes...
Plug in tariffs for taxes to make the critical connection between the two.
Trump is raising tariffs is Trump taxing us consumers…
I do think the translation from 'tariffs' to 'taxes' has a lot of power. Everybody hates taxes on principle, and tariffs are just specialized taxes on imports.
"Trump raises Tariffs = Trump raises Taxes"
I like mine the best ... the Republican cult of economic failure strikes again!
no, this one's a whole different cult of economic failure.
Inflation has already ticked up a bit under Trump's watch, and it could go a lot higher very quickly if he does follow through with his tariffs on Mexico and Canada.
That is more likely than not also due to the effects of the 10% tariffs imposed on China in early February causing inflation (that had been easing) to begin steadily rising.
Of course, China has implemented tariffs against the United States in retaliation for the Trump tariffs ordered by him in Executive Order 14195, but not to worry (sarcasm), there are retaliation tariffs already outlined in the EO in order to retaliate against the retaliation.
Therefore, beginning tomorrow (but allegedly not in retaliation for China's retaliation), the additional China tariffs will rise an additional 10% to a total of 20%.
Welcome to Trump Trade Wars where the citizens of America are the "suckers and losers" who pay the ultimate price(s).
Also relevant, during a White House press conference alongside French president Emmanuel Macron, Trump was asked about trade between the United States and neighboring countries Canada and Mexico:
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So tune in March 4, 2025, when Trump Trade Wars ramp up tariffs against our enemy China to 20% and the war expands to include our (so-called) allies Canada and Mexico to the tune of 25% because Trump (even if pathetically hysterically unknowingly) has correctly identified himself as the imbecile "who would ever sign a thing like this."
This last six weeks have to have been the happiest six weeks of Vladimir Putin’s whole life! Betraying Ukraine should make it clear who’s calling the shots, as every last harmful thing that Trump does makes perfect sense if it is Russia First!
Now would be the time for you to tell me why I’m wrong. I want to be wrong. But it’s the only explanation that makes any sense.
So, NOW we're back to the I HOPE A LOT OF BAD STUFF HAPPENS TO AMERICANS SO WE CAN BLAME IT ON PRESIDENT TRUMP schtick, eh? :eyeroll:
First we have Genocide Guy (John M. from CT) who is SO EXCITED because he "Can't Wait For The Next Pandemic" and is REALLY EXCITED about "MASS DEATHS" for Americans...
Now we have the lot of you HOPING and PRAYING for all the prices to go up..
It's so sad and pathetic how much your Trump/America hate and your PTDS rules your entire lives.. :eyeroll:
#sad
Dishonorably Discharge Druggie Child Rapist,
Now would be the time for you to tell me why I’m wrong. I want to be wrong. But it’s the only explanation that makes any sense.
Let me ask you one question..
You have been WRONG about everything to do with PRESIDENT Trump for the last year..
YOU said PRESIDENT Trump was going to prison.. He didn't. YOU WERE WRONG
YOU said PRESIDENT Trump was going to lose the election. He WON not only the election but he WON the POPULAR VOTE by MILLIONS OF VOTES.. YOU WERE WRONG.
You have been WRONG about **EVERYTHING**
And would you like me to tell you WHY you are going to be WRONG again??
Because you don't base ANY of your predictions on **ANY** facts...
The **ONLY** basis for ANY of your predictions is your druggie infused Trump/America hate and your PTDS..
That's it. That is the ONLY basis for your predictions..
Now let's look at MY predictions which are ALWAYS factually based..
I said that there was "NO WAY" that Headboard Harris could win the election. This was a FACT because it was based on the FACTS known to her OWN campaign..
Factual prediction, factually arrived at. See how that works??
Ya'all (including 2025 CW) predicted that the election was going to be close and it could be DAYS or WEEKS before we knew the winner..
*I* told ya'all that the election was going to be a BLOW OUT for PRESIDENT Trump and that we would know the results by early morning..
How did it go???
The election did NOT drag out for days or weeks and we knew that PRESIDENT Trump was the winner by 0100-0200 hrs...
So ALL of ya'all were ***WRONG*** and *I* had called it dead on ballz accurate..
So, this begs the question..
WHY in this entire UNIVERSE do ya'all think ya'all have even the TINIEST iota of credibility???
WHY???
When yer no longer stoned and can actually think straight (if there is ever a point where you are NOT stoned out of your mind) maybe you can come up with something, eh?? :eyeroll:
But you are DEFINITELY wrong here... Just as you ALWAYS have been...
JL,
The Republican cult of economic failure has always been an all-encompassing and, ah, inclusive term that takes into account all eras and areas of the Republican economic, tax and fiscal policy playbook.
I have a comment from the last FTP that I meant to get out there..
It's HILARIOUS that woke progressive Democrats seem to think they can channel St Ronald Reagan...
As the ONLY Weigantian who was actually IN THE MILITARY during the St Reagan years is yours truly..
And I can say with completely and utter conviction and factual analysis that St Ronald Reagan would have LOVED PRESIDENT Trump's actions..
St Ronald Reagan was a man of peace. The saying PEACE.. THRU SUPERIOR FIREPOWER was made popular again during the Reagan years...
Just like St Ronald Reagan totally destroyed the USSR without firing a shot (so to speak)...
So will PRESIDENT Trump destroy the resurgence of the Putin's USSR thru peace...
It's ironic (but totally NOT surprising) that it's woke progressive Democrats who are the warmongers..
These low life America hating scumbags would rather see Ukraine totally destroyed and subjugated under Putin than to concede that PRESIDENT Trump has the right course of action...
JL, you never addressed my point...
So..
You prefer the war to continue??
You prefer more killing and more death and destruction??
Welcome to the woke progressive Democrat Party 2025..
Nothing else matters but the Trump/America hate and the PTDS... :eyeroll:
All of these facts should have become painfully obvious to even the most retarded woke progressive Democrat when their Party prostrated themselves before and bent the knee to and kissed the ring of Dick 'Darth Vader' Cheney himself..
Trump/America Hate Uber Alles...
PTDS to the max...
Since it's one of the woke progressive mantras that SILENCE GIVES ASSENT I'll assume your silence to be your concession..
Which I happily accept.. :D
And yes.. I know what happens when one makes an ASSUMPTION..
It makes and ASS out of you.... And Umption.... :D
Liz
The Republican cult of economic failure has always been an all-encompassing and, ah, inclusive term that takes into account all eras and areas of the Republican economic, tax and fiscal policy playbook.
If that were factually accurate, how do you explain the MASS of American prosperity during the PRESIDENT Trump years pre-COVID??
That doesn't show ANY economic failure.. ONLY economic resurgence and prosperity..
So your claim doesn't fit the facts... :D
You also failed to address a point from yesterday...
To whit:
You may be right about President Trump not knowing the right thing to do. I disagree but am intelligent and mature enough to concede that I may be wrong and you may be right.
But that's not really the point in the here and now.
What IS the point in the here and now is that President Trump is the *ONLY* one who has the right idea...
President Trump is the *ONLY* one who knows that this war needs to stop!! All the woke progressive Democrats can do is FEED this war... Biden et al just FEED the war.
You just HAVE to concede this fact.. President Trump is the ONLY one who has the RIGHT idea... He may not know HOW to do it... yet... But he is the ONLY one who has the right idea...
And he is getting *ZERO* help from woke progressive Democrats and *ZERO* help from Zelensky. Which is strange because Zelensky is the one who has the most to lose..
Can you not concede the FACT that ONLY PRESIDENT Trump has the right idea and that stopping the war is the ONLY possible solution that guarantees the survival of Ukraine..
That all woke progressive Democrats want is to continue the war and continue the killing so they can blame PRESIDENT Trump...
Michale,
It will take more than just stopping the war to guarantee the survival of Ukraine. I know you know that.
So, what would a deal to end the war in Ukraine look like, in your estimation, taking into account the question of security, not only for Ukraine but for Europe, as a whole ... all of which will impact the national security of the US in ways you have not mentioned thus far?
OK NNL filters are acting up again.. :eyeroll:
Doing some testing.. Bear with me...
And, once again, Hillary gets PWNED!!!! :D SecDeg Hegseth reminded Hillary how she and Odumbo were sucking up to Putin and Russia during the Odumbo years.. Funny how ya'all didn't mind sucking up to Putin during the Odumbo years, eh?? :eyeroll:
http://mfccfl.us/overcharge.jpg
Of course, being the TOTALLY INCOMPETENT retards Hillary and Odumbo were, the "reset" button actually said OVERCHARGE..
And, once again, Hillary gets PWNED!!!! :D SecDeg Hegseth reminded Hillary how she and Odumbo were sucking up to Putin and Russia during the Odumbo years.. Funny how ya'all didn't mind sucking up to Putin during the Odumbo years, eh?? :eyeroll:
On March 6, 2009 in Geneva, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with a red button with the English word "reset" and the Roman alphabet transliteration of the Russian Cyrillic alphabet word {russian spelling of} ("peregruzka").
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Of course, being the TOTALLY INCOMPETENT retards Hillary and Odumbo were, the "reset" button actually said OVERCHARGE..
How completely RETARDED woke progressive Democrats are!! :eyeroll:
And you retarded woke progressive Democrats who whine and cry hysterically about ceasing cyber operations against Russia???
Ya'all CHEERED when Odumbo dropped the Missile Shield Plan for Eastern Europe that Putin was against..
In other words, Odumbo did Putin's bidding and YA'ALL cheered!!!!
The FACTS clearly prove that you don't mind when retarded woke progressive Democrats do Putin's bidding, eh???
Hypocrisy. It's not a bug in Democrat programming. It's a feature.
Apparently, The NNL filters don't like cyrillic writing.. :D
Liz
So, what would a deal to end the war in Ukraine look like, in your estimation, taking into account the question of security, not only for Ukraine but for Europe, as a whole ... all of which will impact the national security of the US in ways you have not mentioned thus far?
I don't have enough information at the moment to answer that properly.. Give me a few to research it better..
But I *CAN* say (and I am sure you will agree) that ONLY PRESIDENT Trump has the RIGHT IDEA that STOPPING the war soonest is the BEST course of action..
Unlike the woke progressive Democrats who want to CONTINUE the fighting and CONTINUE the bloodshed and CONTINUE the death and CONTINUE the destruction..
PRESIDENT Trump is pursuing the CORRECT course of action..
Zelensky and the woke progressive Democrats are WRONG about their course of action..
I also CAN say that there will be NO peace without the US to guarantee the peace...
Europe can't do it on their own.. Ukraine... Can't do it in their own...
ONLY the US and PRESIDENT Trump has the correct course of action and ONLY the US and PRESIDENT Trump can guarantee the peace...
This is FACT...
No, Michale, I do not agree with nor concede to your assertion that only the US has the correct course of action and is the sole guarantor of peace.
In fact, I continue to entertain the nascent idea that peace in Europe, generally, and in Ukraine, specifically need not involve the US, at all. Which, by the way, is something I never imagined that I would ever tap out in a public comment.
The following information comes from FOXNEWS via YAHOO NEWS...
As PRESIDENT Trump prepares to address Congress, conservative political analyst Rob Bluey and Democrat political analyst Julian Epstein have provided their assessments of his performance on key issues, assigning grades that reflect the public's sentiment. Their evaluations highlight both the successes and challenges Trump faces as he seeks to solidify his standing with the American people.
Immigration: A
Both analysts awarded PRESIDENT Trump an "A" for his immigration policies, underscoring the effectiveness of his administration's efforts to curb illegal immigration. Conservative Bluey points to the significant reduction in encounters with illegal aliens at the southern border, attributing this success to the leadership of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and border czar Tom Homan. Democrat Epstein echoes this sentiment, emphasizing that PRESIDENT Trump's commitment to enforcing immigration laws resonates with the public, especially in contrast to the actual leniency of the Biden administration. This strong bipartisan support for Trump's immigration stance suggests that he has effectively tapped into a critical issue that many Americans prioritize.
Foreign Policy: B
In the realm of foreign policy, both analysts assigned a "B" grade to PRESIDENT Trump, reflecting a mixed record. Conservative Bluey notes the complexities surrounding the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine, acknowledging that Trump's promise to resolve the situation swiftly has proven challenging. Democrat Epstein adds "President Trump promised to end the war between Russia and Ukraine in 24 hours. That’s proving to be more difficult, mostly because of Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s unrealistic demands." However, both analysts recognize PRESIDENT Trump's strategic approach in the Middle East, particularly his efforts to build on the Abraham Accords. This nuanced evaluation indicates that while Trump has made strides, the intricacies of international relations present ongoing hurdles.
Culture Wars: A+
PRESIDENT Trump's handling of cultural issues, particularly regarding Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives and gender policies, earned him an impressive "A+" from both analysts. Conservative Bluey highlights Trump's decisive actions to dismantle DEI programs within the federal government, framing it as a victory against what he describes as a "Marxist idea." Democrat Epstein supports this view, asserting that the American public largely opposes the radical cultural shifts proposed by the far left. This overwhelming support for Trump's cultural policies suggests a significant alignment with mainstream American values.
Economy: B
On economic matters, PRESIDENT Trump received a "B" grade, with both analysts acknowledging the challenges posed by inflation and external factors like the bird flu outbreak affecting food prices. Conservative Bluey points out that while Trump attributes inflation to Biden's policies, voters expect tangible results in addressing their financial concerns. Democrat Epstein concurs, noting that despite the blame factually being placed on the previous administration, PRESIDENT Trump must take decisive action to combat inflation and restore economic stability. This grade reflects the urgency for PRESIDENT Trump to translate his promises into effective economic strategies.
So. To recap.. As PRESIDENT Trump prepares to address Congress, the grades provided by Conservative Bluey and Democrat Epstein reveal a complex landscape of public opinion. While he enjoys strong support on immigration and cultural issues, challenges in foreign policy and the economy remain critical areas for improvement. The upcoming address will be an opportunity for PRESIDENT Trump to reinforce his accomplishments and outline a clear path forward, addressing the concerns of the American public as he seeks to solidify his leadership.
So say we all....
Liz,
No, Michale, I do not agree with nor concede to your assertion that only the US has the correct course of action and is the sole guarantor of peace.
Really???
OK... At the risk of putting words in your mouth (because I KNOW how much you hate that.. :D) you think there is a tangible benefit to having the death and the destruction and the killing continuing??
Pray tell, what exactly would that benefit be??
I am also VERY interested in what a EUROPE ALONE peace plan with Putin would look like??
Especially since Ukraine has made it clear that they WON'T ACCEPT ANY PEACE PLAN from Putin...
Zelensky made that VERY clear when he tried to extort concessions from PRESIDENT Trump...
And Europe can't even guarantee it's OWN defence... How will it guarantee Ukraine's??
So, I am sincerely curious as to your thinking that Europe can fashion it's own peace agreement sans the US with Putin when Zelensky has adamantly stated that he WON'T accept *ANY* peace agreement from Putin...
Enquiring minds want to know.. :D
Liz,
In fact, I continue to entertain the nascent idea that peace in Europe, generally, and in Ukraine, specifically need not involve the US, at all. Which, by the way, is something I never imagined that I would ever tap out in a public comment.
I am as shocked as you are! :D
Europe can't muster enough defence spending to even satisfy it's NATO obligations, let alone it's own defence...
How can Europe guarantee Ukraine's defence when it can't even guarantee it's OWN defence..???
Watch them!
And, if the US is successfully sidelined, then you will have only Trump to thank for that.
George Bush let Putin invade Georgia and get away with it.....
Barack Hussein Odumbo let Putin invade The Crimea and get away with it....
Basement Biden let Putin invade Ukraine and get away with it......
PRESIDENT Trump didn't let Putin do ANYTHING or get away with ANYTHING ....
So....
WHO really were PUTIN'S bitches???
The FACTS clearly PROVE that Bush, Odumbo and Biden were Putin's bitches...
"These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN
:D
Michale,
So, I am sincerely curious as to your thinking that Europe can fashion it's own peace agreement sans the US with Putin when Zelensky has adamantly stated that he WON'T accept *ANY* peace agreement from Putin...
I certainly have some thoughts but I asked you first!
Liz,
And, if the US is successfully sidelined, then you will have only Trump to thank for that.
The US ***CAN'T*** be successfully sidelined..
THAT'S the point..
If Europe and Ukraine try to go it alone, then Russia will take and absorb Ukraine en masse..
THAT is the reality of the here and now..
And it will be Zelensky's fault along with the woke progressive Democrats who pushed Zelensky into going against PRESIDENT Trump..
There will be NO success without the US and PRESIDENT Trump..
THAT is the fact and THAT is the objective reality of the here and now..
Just as it was FACT that Harris could not possibly win the election...
So it is FACT that there will NO UKRAINE without PRESIDENT Trump and the US...
I certainly have some thoughts but I asked you first!
There simply can't be a peace deal without the US... It's that simple..
If woke progressive Democrats and Zelensky are successful in getting the US out of the deal, then Ukraine will become part of Russia again...
No if, ands or buts about it..
Thanks for trying, Michale. ;)
Trying, hell.. :D
I answered your question. You just didn't like the answer..
Now, it's my turn..
How can Zelensky make a deal with Putin when Zelensky is ON RECORD as saying you CAN'T make a deal with Putin??
You see, that is the CRUX of the matter??
Zelensky told PRESIDENT Trump, "You can't make a deal with Putin!!!"
So, HOW is Zelensky going to make a deal with Putin on his own when Zelensky STATED that "you can't make a deal with Putin!!"???
There simply ISN'T any way possible..
So, Zelensky WON'T make a deal with Putin... Putin will continue to prosecute the war... And, by your own admission, Putin will eventually win...
Because NO ONE will make a deal with Putin..
Ukraine is absorbed into Russia and that is that...
The resurgent USSR....
And ALL because woke progressive Democrats hate PRESIDENT Trump more than they love their country...
It's really AMAZING when ya look at it..
Retarded woke progressive Democrats screamed hysterically that PRESIDENT Trump was going to start WWIII!!!!
NOW retarded woke progressive Democrats are screaming hysterically that PRESIDENT Trump WON'T start WWIII!!!
The illogical and irrational hysteria of Trump/America haters and PTDS sufferers.... :eyeroll:
The following comment is based on information from MSN...
As I have pointed out, *I* have an extended "bubble" that includes a huge amount and HUGE variety of different sources.. Unlike others who ONLY pull from HuffPoop, WaPoop and NY SLIMES.. :eyeroll:
The planned behavior of the retarded woke progressive Democrats during PRESIDENT Trump's upcoming speech to Congress is nothing short of disgraceful and pathetic. Instead of engaging in constructive dialogue, these retarded woke progressive Democrats are planning to disrupt the proceedings with their childish antics, showcasing their deep-seated Trump/America hate and PTDS (PRESIDENT Trump Derangement Syndrome).
It is appalling that a hysterical faction of the Democrat Party is openly discussing tactics to protest, including walking out during specific lines of PRESIDENT Trump's speech. This is not just a disagreement; it is a blatant display of disrespect towards the office of the presidency and the American people. The retarded woke progressive Democrats are more interested in staging a theatrical performance than addressing the real issues facing our nation. Their plans to use props, noisemakers, and signs with anti-Trump messages only serve to highlight their immaturity and inability to engage in meaningful discourse.
The internal conflict among retarded woke progressive Democrats about how to express their outrage is telling. While some constituents may support disruption, many others recognize that such behavior only plays into PRESIDENT Trump's hands. The retarded woke progressive Democrats are so consumed by their Trump/America hate that they have lost sight of what it means to be a responsible member of Congress. Their focus on fashion statements and color coordination, rather than substantive policy discussions, underscores their priorities.
Moreover, the fact that House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and other leaders are encouraging a "strong, determined and raucous Democrat presence" while simultaneously allowing for walkouts and disruptions reveals the hypocrisy within the party. The woke progressive Democrats are not just opposing PRESIDENT Trump; they are undermining the very fabric of our democracy by prioritizing their disdain over the needs of the American people.
So, to recap... retarded woke progressive Democrats' planned disruptions during PRESIDENT Trump's speech are a clear indication of their Trump/America hate and PTDS. Instead of fostering unity and constructive dialogue, they choose chaos and disrespect, further alienating themselves from the American public.
This is EXACTLY why Democrats lost the 2024 election and lost it so badly...
This comment comes from information from the Left Wing rag, THE NEW REPUBLIC....
James Carville, the former Democratic political consultant, has thrown in the towel, and it’s hard to blame him. The current political landscape is a testament to the utter failure of the retarded woke progressive Democrats to mount any meaningful opposition to PRESIDENT Trump. With no control in Congress, a dwindling number of impotent liberal justices on the Supreme Court, and a lack of national leadership, the woke progressive Democrats find themselves in a position of powerlessness that is both alarming and disheartening.
Carville’s suggestion that Democrats should “roll over and play dead” is a reflection of the grim reality they face. Instead of rallying to resist the chaos that PRESIDENT Trump is unleashing, the woke progressive Democrats seem content to sit back and wait for him to self-destruct. This strategy is not only passive but also indicative of their deep-seated inability to effectively challenge the PRESIDENT Trump administration. The Democrats have lost their way, and their lack of a coherent vision for the future only exacerbates their failures.
It is clear that PRESIDENT Trump is winning the battle for public perception. The woke progressive Democrats have failed to capitalize on the discontent surrounding Trump’s reckless policies, including mass firings of federal workers and a looming economic recession. Instead of presenting a united front, they are mired in indecision and internal conflict, which only serves to highlight their impotence.
Retarded woke progressive Democrats have been here before, but the circumstances are different now. The mass mobilization that characterized the early days of Trump’s presidency has dissipated, leaving the woke progressive Democrats without the grassroots support they once enjoyed. They lack the momentum and the clear endgame that was present during the Mueller investigation, which provided a semblance of hope for a path forward.
As PRESIDENT Trump continues to engage in meeting the needs of the American people, the retarded woke progressive Democrats remain stagnant, failing to offer ANY compelling alternative to the pro America actions of PRESIDENT Trump. Their decision to wait for PRESIDENT Trump to fail is a dangerous gamble that could backfire spectacularly because retarded Democrats have tried that again and again and only made PRESIDENT Trump stronger. The American people are desperate for leadership and a vision for a better future, but the Democrats have failed to provide either. In this battle of wills, it is clear that PRESIDENT Trump is winning, while the woke progressive Democrats are left floundering in their own ineptitude and impotence.
This is PRESIDENT Trump's America now and there is absolutely NOTHING that retarded woke progressive Democrats can do about it!! :D
Elizabeth
Poet
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The cult count is not supposed to increase over time.
"I think, frankly, the Democrats should think about if they should stand up in applause for some of the things President Trump will be talking about. He's bringing common sense back to this country. Look at Democrats: yesterday, 45 Senate Dems voted against keeping men out of women's sports. How can you be against that when 80% of the country is for it?"
-White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt
This is EXACTLY why retarded woke progressive Democrats are the epic failures that they are..
They don't CARE what the American people want..
They ONLY care about their Trump/America hate.. Retarded woke progressive Democrats ONLY care about pushing their hysterical Hate America agenda..
That's why they are ALWAYS losing...
"President Trump wants to make a deal. And unfortunately, it has appeared thus far that President Zelensky is unwilling to talk about a real peace agreement. And in order to negotiate peace, you've got to bring both sides to the table and in any good deal in business, in politics, usually both sides leave a little bit unhappy. I think President Zelenskyy, unfortunately, is failing to realize that at this moment in time. But look, the president is a dealmaker and that's what he wants to do. He wants this war to end. He wants to stop the killing. He wants to see a ceasefire, and he had an economic agreement on the table on a silver platter for President Zelenskyy to sign at the White House last Friday, which wouldn't have just been an economic agreement. It would have been a lifeline for President Zelenskyy and his country. If you have American companies and American miners exploring for those rare earth minerals in Ukraine, that serves as an incredible deterrent to Putin into Russia. And unfortunately, that deal wasn't signed because President Zelenskyy did not come into the Oval Office with the right mindset."
-White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt
That is what is so utterly ridiculous about Zelensky's and the retarded woke progressive Democrats stand..
Zelensky wanted a GUARANTEE from the US in case Putin attacks again..
And PRESIDENT Trump gave him EXACTLY that in the form of a Rare Earth Mining agreement..
But for SOME REASON, Zelensky didn't like that...
Zelensky royally screwed the pooch and now his country is going to burn..
ALL because Zelensky followed the retarded woke progressive Democrats advice and denied PRESIDENT Trump a win...
But what's sad (for retarded woke progressive Democrats) is that Zelensky will give PRESIDENT Trump an even BIGGER win when Zelensky has to go back to the White House, hat in hand, and grovel before PRESIDENT Trump BEGGING for PRESIDENT Trump to save him and save Ukraine..
It's gonna be EPIC!! :D
Zelensky wanted a GUARANTEE from the US in case Putin attacks again..
And PRESIDENT Trump gave him EXACTLY that in the form of a Rare Earth Mining agreement..
Bullshit. The text of the agreement basically says if the mining gets interrupted and Americans affected, maybe we will think of getting involved. There absolutely no security guarantees.
How ironic that retarded woke progressive Democrats are hysterically whining and crying about tariffs under PRESIDENT Trump..
It's ironic because under Odumbo and Biden, you woke progressive Democrats LOVED tariffs!!
The hypocrisy of the retarded woke progressive Democrats regarding tariffs is glaring and simply cannot be overlooked. Under Biden, the woke progressive Democrats embraced a protectionist stance, imposing tariffs that they once vehemently opposed when implemented by PRESIDENT Trump. This double standard is not only disingenuous but also highlights the inconsistency in their economic policies. It PROVES that woke progressive Democrats are governed by Trump/America hate and PTDS only.
During the Odumbo administration, tariffs were used often to protect American interests, particularly in the context of trade with China. Odumbo imposed tariffs on Chinese tires and steel, citing the need to protect American jobs and industries. Yet, when PRESIDENT Trump took similar actions, the retarded woke progressive Democrats condemned him, labeling his tariffs as harmful and counterproductive. Under Biden and Odumbo retarded woke progressive Democrats cheered and applauded the very same measures they now criticize, demonstrating a blatant lack of principle and utterly devoid of ANY integrity whatsoever..
Biden's administration notably failed to negotiate ANY major free trade deal, a stark contrast to the historical approach of previous administrations. Instead, Biden opted for tariffs as a means to address foreign policy concerns, particularly regarding China. This shift in strategy is emblematic of the Democrats' broader ideological change, moving away from the free trade principles championed by leaders like John F. Kennedy. Biden's and Odumbo's tariffs, aimed at blocking imports of crucial products, are a clear indication of this protectionist pivot. A pivot that you woke progressive Democrats had absolutely ZERO problem with...
The retarded woke progressive Democrats' applause for Biden's tariffs while hysterically denouncing PRESIDENT Trump's tariff actions is a TEXTBOOK case of blatant hypocrisy. Retarded woke progressive Democrats have abandoned any coherent economic philosophy in favor of rabid and hysterical Trump/America hate and PTDS.
This inconsistency not only undermines woke progressive Democrat credibility (not that they really had any to begin with) but also confuses the American public about the party's true stance on trade and economic policy. As they cheer for Biden's tariffs, they reveal their willingness to sacrifice principles for Trump/America hate and PTDS, leaving many to question their commitment to a consistent and effective economic strategy.
In other words, if there IS a "cult of economic failure", then it's clear that retarded woke progressive Democrats are charter members of that cult...
So say we all.....
Trump dropping a big steamer on the 1st amendment.
The fed does not run Universities, they are state/private and Trump would not have the authority to expel anyone except, maybe kick out foreign students.
The funding threat is hilarious though: you know that big budget we are trying to cut massively for a department we are dismantling and trying to get rid of? Well, if you protest you don't get any of that soon to be non-existent money. What a dumbass.
Bash,
Your "source" is Ukraine!!????
BBBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You really are a retarded moron, aren't you..
If US citizens came under attack in Ukraine, you can bet that PRESIDENT Trump would send in troops.. The ACTUAL text of the agreement specifically states this..
Why do you hate America so much that you take the word of a corrupt and racist nazi like Zelensky over your own country??
Ukraine is one of the MOST CORRUPT countries in all the world..
And YOU are Zekensky's bitch.. :eyeroll:
Post the agreement from one your sources. Prove me wrong...
And anyone who is Putin's bitch would be a hypocrite to throw stones...
Elizabeth Miller
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No, Michale, I do not agree with nor concede to your assertion that only the US has the correct course of action and is the sole guarantor of peace.
Exactly. Not only that, Trump's course of action in appeasing Putin is the exact opposite of what could ensure lasting peace. Why? Because Trump seems determined to see the entire issue through Putin's distorted view to the point that he (and the United States by extension) appears to be a weak ass clown in service to Putin and Russia:
* Trump referred to President Zelensky as a dictator.
* Trump blamed President Zelensky for starting the war.
Those are two false claims that Putin has been making for multiple years: Russian talking points.
Obviously, Zelensky is the latest democratically elected leader, and Putin invaded Ukraine in 2014 with Russian-backed militias when his puppet in Kyiv, Viktor Yanukovych (Paul Manafort's project) was run out of Ukraine and fled to Russia, and Putin further escalated in 2022 in attempt to depose Zelensky in order to install a Moscow-friendly puppet regime.
The primary way to get a peace deal that could be lasting is to convince Putin he cannot conquer additional territory in Ukraine. Meanwhile, Trump is doing exactly the opposite with his Russian talking points, the Trump administration's voting against a UN resolution by our European allies condemning the Russian invasion of Ukraine (siding with Russia, North Korea, Belarus, etc.), Trump's proposal that Russia rejoin the G7 (former G8), Trump's freezing of congressionally approved aid to Ukraine (not for the first time), and Trump's obviously staged self-described "great television" berating of Zelensky, sitting in the Oval Office screeching like a toddler about Hunter Biden's laptop and driveling and spewing of multiple grievances how he and Putin are both the poor victims who had to endure Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, etc. *laughs* A prattling butt hurt whining windbag and wussy.
Trump's administration officials have already stated publicly and on multiple occasions that Ukraine will have to give up territory, that Ukraine cannot join NATO, that U.S. soldiers will not participate in a peacekeeping mission in Ukraine, that U.S. armed forces will be pulled out of Europe, that Ukraine must repay the United States, etc.
When diplomacy is marked by concessions from both sides and Trump and his administration have publicly already given up the entire farm of Ukraine while not asking a single public concession of Russia, how would the United States figure into any serious negotiations when Trump has signaled repeatedly on multiple occasions and in multiple ways that he is the living embodiment of Putin's Bitch Puppet? Rhetorical question.
Attempting the appeasement of our enemy and dictatorial aggressor Russia against our own ally Ukraine isn't the way to achieve lasting peace... far from it.
In fact, I continue to entertain the nascent idea that peace in Europe, generally, and in Ukraine, specifically need not involve the US, at all.
Particularly under the present circumstances such as they are. At the present time, it appears to me that Putin and Trump are on the same page in attempting to force Zelensky to resign in order to further Putin's goal of displacing Zelensky and Trump's goal of winning a Nobel Peace Prize, but time will tell.
Which, by the way, is something I never imagined that I would ever tap out in a public comment.
But you're 100% correct about it... even if not for the same reasons I posted above. :)
WOW!!! It sure didn't take long for Zelensky to go hat in hand, groveling back to PRESIDENT Trump..
The following information comes from CBS News.. :D
In a striking display of desperation, Zelenskyy has capitulated and surrendered, coming to PRESIDENT Trump, hat in hand, seeking to mend fences and secure a peace deal to end the ongoing war with Russia. After a tumultuous meeting in the Oval Office, where U.S. military aid to Ukraine was suspended, Zelenskyy has publicly acknowledged the need for strong leadership from PRESIDENT Trump to navigate the treacherous waters of international diplomacy.
Zelenskyy's recent statements reveal a profound shift in his approach, as he now emphasizes the urgency of negotiating peace. "Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians," he declared, signaling his readiness to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible. This is a far cry from the earlier insulting bravado displayed by Ukraine, and it underscores the reality that without U.S. support, Ukraine had absolutely NO FUTURE except as a satellite state of Russia
In his social media post, Zelenskyy expressed gratitude for the assistance the U.S. has provided, particularly highlighting the significance of PRESIDENT Trump's decision to supply Ukraine with Javelin missiles. This acknowledgment of American support is a clear indication of how much Ukraine values its relationship with the United States, especially in light of the recent suspension of military aid. Zelenskyy's capitulation is not just a plea for help; it is a recognition that Ukraine's sovereignty and independence are intricately tied to U.S. leadership.
Which is exactly what I said before.. Without the US there IS no Ukraine.. I hate being factually correct all the time!! :D
The Ukrainian president's call for a "strong final deal" under PRESIDENT Trump's guidance is a testament to his surrender to PRESIDENT Trump's capabilities as US Commander In Chief and of the objective reality of the geopolitical landscape. Without US involvement, there would be no Ukraine..
Zelensky outlined potential first stages for a ceasefire, echoing proposals from European leaders, but it is evident that he is looking to the U.S. to bail him (Zelensky) out of his BONEHEAD mistake. Zelensky admits that the US is the ONLY country capable of taking the decisive action needed to bring about lasting peace. Zelenskyy's regret over the recent meeting in Washington, where things did not go as planned, further illustrates his eagerness to rectify the situation and foster constructive cooperation moving forward. Zelensky concedes that he frak'ed up and now Zelensky is bending over backwards to kiss PRESIDENT Trump's ass..
So... Let's recap, children..
Zelenskyy's groveling for PRESIDENT Trump's leadership highlights the stark reality of Ukraine's dependence on U.S. support. His willingness to negotiate and make concessions is a clear indication of the lengths to which he is willing to go to secure peace for his nation. As Ukraine braces for continued conflict without U.S. military aid, it is clear that Zelenskyy is hoping for a turnaround in relations with PRESIDENT Trump, recognizing that strong American leadership is crucial for Ukraine's future.
Zelensky bends the knee...
WHO could have POSSIBLY predicted this outcome!!!
Oh... Wait!!! :D
Hay Victoria Troll,
Yer comment #52 did not age very well!!!!
Didn't even last 10 minutes!!!
BBBBBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You are the POSTER CHILD for retarded woke progressive Democrat morons, eh!! :D
@liz [32],
that's exactly right. europe has been overly dependent on US military involvement in recent decades, but that doesn't mean they're somehow incapable of rearming with alacrity. at the moment, the US has a near monopoly on hard power. next year, perhaps less. the year after that, less still. donald is thinking very short-term, and hurting our own country much more than any other except ukraine. Europe will in all likelihood be just fine with accepting a larger security role, once their capacity catches up to their needs.
@m[53],
i don't think you understood what he actually said. obviously someone on his team crafted the message to be more diplomatic than he was able to achieve in person, but nothing has changed about ukraine's position on security.
JL
Yer comment #52 did not age very well!!!!
It's about achieving lasting peace in Ukraine and the facts regarding Trump's repetitive appeasement of Putin and multiple concessions already made by Trump on Putin's behalf like a Russian useful idiot. Did you think it was about something else? Rhetorical question.
Didn't even last 10 minutes!!!
In fact, it's archived for years and years.
Let us all know when Trump's (or anyone's) repetitive appeasement of a Dictator achieves lasting peace in Ukraine (or anywhere). We'll wait.
It's actually hilarious if ya'all really tax yer 2-cell brains and think about it.. :D
PRESIDENT Trump is playing 12-D chess...
And retarded woke progressive Democrats are sitting there, drooling all over themselves, wondering what planet they're on... :D
Life is GOOD!!! :D
i don't think you understood what he actually said. obviously someone on his team crafted the message to be more diplomatic than he was able to achieve in person, but nothing has changed about ukraine's position on security.
And yet, Zelensky is willing to sign the agreement that he REFUSED to sign a couple days ago...
I know, I know... Ya'all would like to PRETEND nothing has changed.. That is your subjective fantasy that ya'all HAVE to cling to...
But it's clear that Zelenksy realized what I have been saying for the last 2 days..
There IS no peace deal without US involvement..
Zelensky just conceded that fact when he went groveling back to PRESIDENT Trump hat in hand..
I honestly didn't believe Zelensky would cave so soon... I mean, it was INEVITABLE.... But Zelensky got real scared real fast... :D
Such is the power of PRESIDENT Trump... :D
Victoria Troll is back pedaling furiously trying to pretend she was right all along..
I guess rushing over to ANOTHER dead brother's house to rip down his MAGA/TRUMP flag is taxing her skills.. :D
I wonder what Genocide Guy is going to say about Zelensky capitulating and conceding to PRESIDENT Trump...
I mean, he already said he "CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT PANDE MIC" and was EXCITED about "MASS DEATH" of Americans..
Maybe the total luser was hoping for a nuclear war as well so he could blame THAT on PRESIDENT Trump...
:eyeroll:
ZELENSKY CAVES. ACKNOWLEDGES THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE US ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN SAVE UKRAINE!!!!!
Zelensky's out of the blue capitulation to PRESIDENT Trump reveal a significant shift in Zelensky's approach to the ongoing conflict with Russia. After a contentious meeting at the White House, where Zelensky's team was reportedly dismissed and thrown out of the Oval Office, the Ukrainian leader appeared to recognize the dire situation facing his country and the need for a more conciliatory stance. In a post on X, Zelensky stated, “Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer,” emphasizing that “nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians.” This statement is not just a call for dialogue; it is a clear admission of the precarious position Ukraine finds itself in. The idea that "nothing has changed" is ludicrous in the face of Zelensky's 180 turnaround...
Zelensky's capitulation to PRESIDENT Trump is underscored by his acknowledgment of the critical role the United States has played in supporting Ukraine's sovereignty. He expressed gratitude for the military aid provided by Trump, particularly the Javelin missiles that significantly bolstered Ukraine's defense capabilities. This recognition highlights a stark contrast to the advice he received from some woke progressive Democrat and European leaders, who urged him to adopt a tougher stance against PRESIDENT Trump. Such counsel proved to be the worst advice Zelensky could have followed, as it only served to alienate a key ally at a time when Ukraine desperately needed support.
The fallout from the White House meeting was immediate and severe. Following the contentious discussions, PRESIDENT Trump temporarily halted military aid to Ukraine, a move that sent shockwaves through Zelensky's administration and caused Zelensky to poop his pants.. The Ukrainian leader's realization that his aggressive posture had backfired is evident in his subsequent statements. He expressed regret that the meeting “did not go the way it was supposed to be,” indicating a recognition that a more diplomatic approach was necessary.
Zelensky's willingness to negotiate and work under PRESIDENT Trump's leadership is a strategic pivot aimed at securing a peace deal that could stabilize Ukraine's future. He outlined potential first steps for a ceasefire, including the release of prisoners and a ban on missile strikes, which reflects a pragmatic approach to ending the conflict. By begging for PRESIDENT Trump's forgiveness, Zelensky is not only seeking to restore military aid but also to forge a path toward a lasting peace.
The advice from woke progressive Democrat and European leaders to take a hard-line stance against Trump was completely misguided and proved that those retarded morons have absolutely ZERO clue regarding PRESIDENT Trump. It failed to account for the complexities of international relations, the necessity of maintaining strong ties with the United States and the fact that PRESIDENT Trump has a HUGE mandate from the American people to govern and to end the Ukraine war..
Zelensky's initial approach, influenced by the poor counsel of retarded morons, jeopardized Ukraine's position and delayed the possibility of a peaceful resolution.
In light of the current geopolitical landscape, Zelensky's 180 degree turn toward working WITH PRESIDENT Trump is a necessary and wise decision. As the conflict with Russia continues to escalate, Ukraine must prioritize securing support from its allies, particularly the United States. By acknowledging his bonehead moronic move and embracing a more respectful tone, Zelensky is positioning Ukraine to better navigate the challenges ahead. Ultimately, his willingness to negotiate and seek a strong partnership with PRESIDENT Trump may prove to be the key to achieving the peace that Ukraine so desperately needs.
In short, Zelensky had a busted flush and PRESIDENT Trump had 4 aces...
PRESIDENT TRUMP (AND AMERICA) WINS AGAIN!!!! :D
Zelensky is willing to sign the agreement that he REFUSED to sign a couple days ago...
not the case. he was prepared to sign it in the first place, in spite of his reservations, but he was ambushed, insulted and removed from the premises before he had the chance.
nypoet22
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donald is thinking very short-term, and hurting our own country much more than any other except ukraine.
All that and a piece of pie.
obviously someone on his team crafted the message to be more diplomatic than he was able to achieve in person, but nothing has changed about ukraine's position on security.
Exactly. Zelensky had already refused to sign two of the agreements put forth by the Trump administration but apparently has agreed on the language in the third.
Zelensky is still the same President of Ukraine wherein Trump blocked payment of a congressionally-mandated $400 million military aid package in a failed attempt to obtain quid pro quo cooperation to interfere in the 2020 presidential election on Trump's behalf. This isn't exactly Zelensky's first rodeo with either Putin or Trump.
When Trump finally shoots someone on Fifth Avenue the Republicans will call jail the victim it’s a Democratic plant.
Do ya'all wanna know PRESIDENT Trump's best superpower???
It's forcing woke progressive Democrat morons into defending indefensible positions..
Like forcing woke progressive Democrats into supporting a continuation of the war in Ukraine... :D
The woke progressive Democrat Party finds itself in a precarious position, desperately defending indefensible positions that are increasingly out of touch with the American public. As PRESIDENT Trump continues to implement policies that resonate with a significant majority of voters, woke progressive Democrats are scrambling to justify their radical stances, revealing a profound and growing disconnect from the American voters.
Take, for instance, the Democrats' unwavering support for open border policies and gender-affirming procedures for minors. These positions have drawn widespread criticism, yet party leaders like Harris have been forced to defend them, even as public sentiment shifts against such radical ideas. The reality is that most of PRESIDENT Trump's policies are not only popular but also align with the desires of the vast majority of the American people. A recent Harvard-Harris poll indicated that a staggering 76% of respondents support efforts to eliminate waste and fraud in government expenditures, a mission that the woke progressive Democrats have actively opposed.
The woke progressive Democrats' opposition to a comprehensive audit of the U.S. government is perhaps the most egregious example of their indefensible stance. While PRESIDENT Trump and his team have uncovered TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in waste, the woke progressive Democrats have resorted to enlisting federal judges to block access to agency records, revealing their fear of transparency. Woke progressive Democrats are PETRIFIED of transparency.. Instead of embracing accountability, they have chosen to protect the status quo, which only serves to alienate them further from the American people.
Moreover, the woke progressive Democrats' attempts to stage protests and create the illusion of bipartisan backlash against PRESIDENT Trump’s initiatives have backfired spectacularly.
Reports have surfaced exposing these orchestrated demonstrations as nothing more than mere political theater, designed to manipulate public opinion. This tactic not only undermines their credibility but also highlights their desperation in the face of a popular administration.
As the woke progressive Democrats continue to defend their indefensible positions, they risk losing the trust of the very voters they claim to represent. Their failure to adapt to the changing political landscape and their reliance on outdated strategies will likely lead to further electoral defeats. The American people are catching on to the charade, and the Democrats' insistence on doubling down on their misguided policies will only serve to deepen their disconnect from the electorate.
So, to recap, children.
The woke progressive Democrat Party's current predicament is a direct result of their inability to recognize the popularity of PRESIDENT Trump's policies. By defending the indefensible, they are not only alienating themselves from voters but also setting the stage for their own downfall. As the political landscape continues to evolve, it is clear that the Democrats must reassess their positions or risk being left behind in the wake of a resurgent Trump administration.
And the fact that PRESIDENT Trump continues to force woke progressive Democrats to defend the indefensible shows that woke progressive Democrats are going to be wandering round and round the political wilderness for a LONG LONG time... :D
not the case. he was prepared to sign it in the first place, in spite of his reservations, but he was ambushed, insulted and removed from the premises before he had the chance.
Sorry, JL... You don't get to rewrite recent history..
Zelensky stated he would not sign the minerals agreement because it didn't explicitly lay out that US troops would be deployed to Ukraine in the face of a subsequent Russia attack..
This is documented FACT...
PRESIDENT Trump refused to explicitly state that because it was already in the agreement in a back handed way..
Zelensky then insulted and tried to extort PRESIDENT Trump and PRESIDENT Trump said, in not so many words, "GET THE FUCK OUT!!"
THIS is what happened..
I get it.. Ya'all have to try and save face to mitigate this TOTAL and COMPLETE WIN for PRESIDENT Trump...
I understand why you are spewing this bullshit, but it won't work..
PRESIDENT Trump wins again.. :D
And retarded woke progressive Democrat morons have egg all over their faces..
AGAIN!! :D
As far as UKRAINE goes, it's playing out EXACTLY as I said it would...
I just didn't realize that Zelensky would cave so fast... Zelensky must have REALLY been crapping his pants...
NOW Zelensky is ready to sign ANY agreement PRESIDENT Trump wants him to sign!! :D
Zelensky is fully and completely PRESIDENT Trump's bitch now... :D
Can't wait to see 2025 CW's commentary tonight!! :D
This inconsistency not only undermines woke progressive Democrat credibility (not that they really had any to begin with) but also confuses the American public about the party's true stance on trade and economic policy. As they cheer for Biden's tariffs, they reveal their willingness to sacrifice principles for Trump/America hate and PTDS, leaving many to question their commitment to a consistent and effective economic strategy.
In other words, if there IS a "cult of economic failure", then it's clear that retarded woke progressive Democrats are charter members of that cult...
So, no one wants to talk about the utter hypocrisy of ya'all applauding for Odumbo's and Biden's tariffs while castigating PRESIDENT Trump's tariffs???
I would think ya'all would want to change the subject VERY quickly considering how badly ya'all just got TOTALLY MAULED over Zelensky's capitulation and surrender, eh?? :D
…will say the victim was a Democratic plant.
Bleeping autocorrect
Victoria Troll is back pedaling furiously trying to pretend she was right all along..
No back-pedaling here whatsoever. I posted facts along with my opinions. Your projection about pretending and being right is hysterical and a dead-on-accurate appraisal of yourself; your self-esteem obviously requires it so award yourself however many prizes you need.
I reiterate that Trump and his officials have been the appeaser of Putin on multiple occasions and have made multiple concessions on Putin's behalf leaving very little to nothing on the table with which to successfully negotiate a lasting peace.
I guess rushing over to ANOTHER dead brother's house to rip down his MAGA/TRUMP flag is taxing her skills.. :D
I have only one dead brother (to date). None of my other brothers are MAGAts... just the dead one. I did not "rip" the MAGAt flag down, but I definitely did remove it. My brother is still dead, and you are obviously still obsessed with him. If you wish to keep obsessing about him, at least he'll be alive somewhere. Thank you.
I wonder what Genocide Guy is going to say about Zelensky capitulating and conceding to PRESIDENT Trump...
It doesn't matter. You'll obviously invent some bullshit he never said and assign it to him because you are obsessed with him too.
I mean, he already said he "CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT PANDE MIC" and was EXCITED about "MASS DEATH" of Americans..
I rest my case about you inventing bullshit.
Maybe the total luser was hoping for a nuclear war as well so he could blame THAT on PRESIDENT Trump...
Maybe you resemble that description of yours since it was you who invented it. Thoughts to ponder.
'S ok, dishonorably discharged druggie child rapist..
No one reads your comments anyways..
Yer always too stoned to make any kind of sense. :eyeroll:
I rest my case about you inventing bullshit.
As usual, Victoria Troll is full of shit..
"Can't wait for the next pandemic on his watch"/B>
-John M from CT
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2025/02/13/maybe-r-f-k-jr-can-ban-televised-drug-ads/#comment-215913
There it is, in his own words..
"Can't wait for the next pandemic on his watch"
As usual, Victoria Troll is full of shit...
:eyeroll:
I have only one dead brother (to date). None of my other brothers are MAGAts... just the dead one.
WOW...
You call your OWN brother a "MAGAT".... How utterly contemptible..
You hate PRESIDENT Trump more than you love your own family...
You are DEFINITELY a retarded woke progressive Democrat all right! :eyeroll:
"It's no wonder yer single!"
-Metatron, DOGMA
Periodic reminder of America’s obligations under the Budapest Memorandum. You know, the one in 1994 where Ukraine gave up all her nukes in exchange for security guaranties from Russia, the UK and America.
Ukraine won’t stop until Russia is entirely gone from ALL of Ukraine. If Zelenskyy negotiated anything less than that he and the missus would likely end up with a new perspective on local street lighting infrastructure. I’ve been soaked in Ukrainian nationalism since childhood so I know what I’m talking about. I remember Grandpa taking 8-year old me to Ford Auditorium in downtown Detroit. Wasn’t much fun because the whole boisterous “Free Ukraine” rally was entirely in Ukrainian.
Kick
70
I have only one dead brother (to date). None of my other brothers are MAGAts... just the dead one. I did not "rip" the MAGAt flag down, but I definitely did remove it. My brother is still dead, and you are obviously still obsessed with him. If you wish to keep obsessing about him, at least he'll be alive somewhere. Thank you.
I think this is among your very best posts, ever (six-ish years and counting.)
Dishonorably Discharged Druggie Child Rapist,
I’ve been soaked in Ukrainian nationalism since childhood so I know what I’m talking about.
You NEVER know what yer talking about because yer always stoned off your ass..
Ukraine is one of the MOST corrupt countries in the entire world..
If what you say was factually accurate, the Zekensky would have been hanged when he gave up The Crimea...
As usual, you are full of shit and don't have a CLUE what country you are in, let alone anything to do with geo-politics...
Just quit yapping because yer only embarrassing yourself..
I remember Grandpa taking 8-year old me to Ford Auditorium in downtown Detroit.
Show me on the doll where your grandpa touched you inappropriately in the Ford Auditorium bathroom.. :eyeroll:
When you come down of your high, you'll realize that Zelensky simply CAN'T win against Russia...
Zelensky already lost The Crimea... Zelensky will now lose the Donetsk region as well..
This is the objective reality, son...
Now just go back to your bong... :eyeroll:
Dishonorably Discharged Druggie Child Rapist,
I think this is among your very best posts, ever (six-ish years and counting.)
Victoria Troll calls her dead brother names and YOU think it's the troll's best post..
Yep... Yer stoned off yer ass again... :eyeroll:
Michale
72
There it is, in his own words..
Thanks for the link... reminds me why you frequently don't supply them.
So you're basically conceding you are definitely obsessed with him and obviously can't understand his sarcasm about Bobby Kennedy, and you seriously believe your characterization of him being "EXCITED" (your word) about mass deaths is a factual representation of what he posted? It's not.
It seems in your ever-present state of confusion regarding simple English terms, you've conflated "God forbid" with your ridiculous invented drivel and spew.
So I reiterate: I rest my case about you inventing bullshit. Your mischaracterization of his comment and addition of your own adjective in order to fit your twisted agenda definitely meets the definition of your standard operational invented bullshit.
As usual, Victoria Troll can't admit she's wrong..
JCMT stated plainly..
"Can't wait for the next pandemic"
In Victoria Troll's retarded mind, that SOMEHOW = an obsession for Genocide Guy IE JMCT..
Yea, I know, I know.. It's retarded and makes ZERO sense at all but retards like Victoria Troll NEVER make any sense...
So, to recap.. I point out JMCT's comment that he "can't wait for the next pandemic" and JMCT is EXCITED about "mass deaths" for Americans..
The retarded Victoria Troll accuses me of lying without ANY facts to support her claims..
I show her the facts and Victoria Troll tries to cover up how badly she frak'ed up by claiming, AGAIN without any FACTS, that I am obsessed with Genocide Guy, AKA JMCT..
All of which is a cover by Victoria Troll to cover up the FACT that she hates her dead brother and calls him names when he is no longer alive to defend himself..
What a sad sack of shit retard Victoria Troll is...
And Victoria Troll epitomizes perfectly exactly WHY the blocking feature will not accomplish anything.. :D
OK ON with the countdown!! :D
This comes from Australia News.. :D
Zelensky's recent attempts to pick a fight with PRESIDENT Trump have backfired spectacularly, leaving him looking desperate and moronic.
After a contentious meeting in the Oval Office, where PRESIDENT Trump accused Zelensky of being insufficiently grateful for U.S. support, the Ukrainian leader was left scrambling to salvage the situation. His subsequent groveling and public expressions of regret are nothing short of cringe-worthy....
In a pathetic display of contrition, Zelensky took to social media to praise PRESIDENT Trump’s “strength” and express his desire to “make things right.” This is not the behavior of a confident leader; it is the behavior of someone who has been thoroughly PWNED. Instead of standing firm, Zelensky has shown that he is willing to bend the knee to secure U.S. military aid, which is vital for Ukraine’s defense against Russian aggression. His admission that the Oval Office meeting was “regrettable” only underscores how badly he miscalculated the situation.
Zelensky’s attempts to negotiate peace while simultaneously trying to pick a fight with PRESIDENT Trump reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of the dynamics at play. By trying to assert himself against a leader who has historically supported Ukraine, he has only succeeded in alienating a crucial ally. His insistence that Ukraine is “ready to come to the negotiating table” is a clear indication that he recognizes the precariousness of his position.
Moreover, Zelensky’s desperate need to sign agreements and express gratitude for U.S. support highlights his vulnerability. The fact that he is now willing to work under PRESIDENT Trump’s “strong leadership” is a stark admission of defeat. Instead of projecting strength and resolve, Zelensky has become a caricature of a leader who is out of his depth, groveling for assistance while simultaneously trying to assert his authority.
So.. To recap, children... Zelensky's attempts to confront PRESIDENT Trump have backfired spectacularly, leaving him looking weak and desperate. His groveling for forgiveness and praise for PRESIDENT Trump’s leadership only serve to highlight how thoroughly he has been PWNED. If Zelensky hopes to secure Ukraine’s future, he would do well to abandon his confrontational tactics and focus on building a cooperative relationship with the United States. Otherwise, he risks further undermining his position and jeopardizing the very support that Ukraine desperately needs.
So say we all....
:D
WOW...
You call your OWN brother a "MAGAT".... How utterly contemptible..
Here let me help you: You were obsessing about my dead brother and me and referred to his flag that I removed as "MAGA/TRUMP." I refer to all Trump supporters either living or dead as "MAGAts," and my dead brother is no different than any of them. I will say, you've definitely got a point about MAGAts being "utterly contemptible," and you are obviously the living proof.
Your obsession with my dead brother is again duly noted. Please keep him alive in your thoughts. Thank you.
You hate PRESIDENT Trump more than you love your own family...
Here let me help you again: Hate requires passion, and I have zero passion for "PRESIDENT Trump" and loads of passion for my family... and that definitely includes my dead brother that you're obsessed with.
You are DEFINITELY a retarded woke progressive Democrat all right! :eyeroll:
You are DEFINITELY redundant and repetitive, and I thank you for proving my point about you just inventing bullshit. Please continue to feed your needy self-esteem by awarding yourself as many prizes as you require to feel like you're important.
Don't forget to mention the blocking feature that you're also obsessed with because the idea of being totally ignored definitely has you terrified and definitely possessed at the thought of it. Not to worry, however, you can obviously still feed your needy self-esteem whether you are blocked or not. Just keep pretending like everyone reads your every word. Heh.
"Blerp snooeert gleeerrrp! Flizzleflomp snozz wibberly drooooop. Tizzlefrap snozzik vroop, floonkle wazzle! Blip snorf gleeble sproingle zazz—ploinkle snozz! Grizzleflap, snooferplorp, flibberwomp sproot. Vroozle-fnarzle gleeb snuzzle! Floomp, skizzle, ploob! Wibble-zap snoooerp glizzle sproing. Zerp-tizzle flomp wibble plizzle-plop. Blorp snozzik droop, snoofer-ploop! Flizzle vroop. Sploink-zap gleep, snoffle-florp!"
-Retarded Victoria Troll
I can always tell when I have thoroughly bitch-slapped retarded Victoria Troll...
She starts with the utter BS that makes absolutely ZERO sense and just magnifies her complete and utter inability to ignore ANYTHING I say.. :D
She is another one of those retarded lusers who will NEVER use the block feature to block me... :D
And Victoria Troll epitomizes perfectly exactly WHY the blocking feature will not accomplish anything.. :D
That's the spirit, board troll... lie to yourself. Lie to everyone here that you're not totally obsessed with the terrifying thought that you'll be ignored.
It's hysterical to watch you consumed with the thought of being ignored by a blocking feature when I would wager the majority of commenters ignore the vast majority of your shit postings already.
Anyway, I'ma ignore you again now with my block feature; maybe I'll give you another chance some other day. I gave you a shot today, and you're redundantly repetitive and just infinitely not that interesting.
Back on Topic
Welcome to Trump Trade Wars.
Kick
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I don’t think cho’mo gets your gratitude. Shocker, huh?
I’m just automatically scrolling through the crap and reading everybody else. Where’s a Don Harris when you want a second troll?
It occurs to me that the magnitude of the shit hitting America’s fan is such that think cho’mo is going bug out of here before Hitler’s birthday on 20 April 2025. The usual gone in embarrassment thing cho’mo pulls for years at a time.
Back on Topic
I accept your concession, retarded Victoria Troll... :D
As usual, retarded Victoria Troll totally misses the mark..
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's recent tirade against PRESIDENT Trump regarding tariffs and trade relations is not only hypocritical but also reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of international trade dynamics. Trudeau's claims that PRESIDENT Trump is "appeasing Putin" while simultaneously waging a trade war against Canada are laughable, especially considering Trudeau's own history with tariffs and his government's failures in foreign policy.
First and foremost, Trudeau's assertion that PRESIDENT Trump is engaging in a trade war is rich coming from a leader who has also wielded tariffs as a political tool. Trudeau's government has imposed tariffs on various goods in the past, including steel and aluminum, under the guise of protecting Canadian industries. This selective outrage over PRESIDENTTrump's tariffs is nothing more than political posturing and trying to cover up his own failings as a leader. If Trudeau truly believes that tariffs are "very dumb," he should reflect on his own administration's decisions before casting stones.
Moreover, Trudeau's comments about PRESIDENT Trump wanting to "collapse the Canadian economy" to make Canada the "51st state" are not only hyperbolic but also demonstrate a lack of seriousness in addressing the real issues at hand. Such rhetoric is unbecoming of a national leader and serves only to distract from his administration's shortcomings. Instead of fostering constructive dialogue, Trudeau resorts to fear-mongering, which does nothing to benefit Canadian citizens.
Trudeau's claims about PRESIDENT Trump appeasing Putin are particularly ironic. It is the Biden administration and the woke progressive Democrats who have shown a tendency to appease Russia, especially in the early days of Biden's presidency when he was criticized for not taking a stronger stance against Russian aggression. The retarded woke progressive Democrats' failure to effectively counter Russian influence, coupled with their inconsistent foreign policy, has emboldened Putin rather than deterred him. It's a bona fide FACT that Putin behaved himself under PRESIDENT Trump's leadershit 2017-2020. Trudeau's LAUGHABLE attempt to shift the blame onto PRESIDENT Trump is not only disingenuous but also a blatant attempt to deflect attention from his own government's failures in foreign relations.
Furthermore, Trudeau's comments about Canadians being hurt and angry MAY BE valid, but they should be directed at his own administration's inability to negotiate effectively with the U.S. Instead of rallying Canadians against an external enemy, Trudeau should focus on strengthening Canada's economy and fostering better trade relations. His decision to encourage Canadians to boycott American products and travel to the U.S. is a misguided approach that only serves to deepen divisions between the two countries.
So.. To recap, children....
Trudeau's criticisms of PRESIDENT Trump regarding tariffs and trade relations are hypocritical and misguided. His own history with tariffs, coupled with his failure to address the real issues facing Canada, undermines his credibility as a leader. Instead of engaging in petty political squabbles, Trudeau should focus on building a constructive relationship with the U.S. and addressing the challenges that Canadians face. His attempts to paint PRESIDENT Trump as the villain while ignoring his own administration's shortcomings, failings and mistakes only serve to highlight his inadequacies as a REAL leader.
And the Dishonorably Discharged Druggie Child Rapist puts his 2 cents in as if people really care what he thinks..
Go play with your bong, ya useless druggie.. How many ex-wives do you have???
The simple fact is, Druggie, you have been WRONG about everything for the past year..
Didn't you say that PRESIDENT Trump was going to jail???
You really screwed THAT up, eh druggie?? :eyeroll:
Face reality, druggie.. You are useless as a human being.. Time you took the easy way out... :eyeroll:
That’s the thing, guys.
I get the gist of the trolling content when reading y’all, er, all y’all’s comments.
What I’m not sensing is anything whatsoever new and I don’t get why you’re not bored by now.
And yet, the dishonorably discharged druggie child rapist is STILL posting..
Obviously HE'S not bored yet because he is still yapping away like the impotent pussy he is.. :eyeroll:
If he had brain cell one in his head, he would address all the facts that he has been wrong about for the last year..
But he has no more brain cells left.. He's a druggie who has fried his brain and is, therefore, not worth anything to anyone...
Just a burden on society that society doesn't need or want..
:eyeroll:
Dishonorably Discharged Druggie Child Rapist..
If yer not going to talk politics, Druggie...
Why are you even here!??? :eyeroll:
MtnCaddy
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I’m just automatically scrolling through the crap and reading everybody else. Where’s a Don Harris when you want a second troll?
Red-carded totally out of existence for being an inveterate troll.
Since you asked. :)
And ya'all still can't stop talking about me...
BBBWWWAAAAHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHA
MtnCaddy
84
I get the gist of the trolling content when reading y’all, er, all y’all’s comments.
Same thing happened to me when reading a post of Miss Elizabeth... so I turned off the block feature in search of an actual political discussion.
What I’m not sensing is anything whatsoever new and I don’t get why you’re not bored by now.
See my [84] wherein I verbalize similar sentiments and turn on the "Weed Blocker" created by chaszzzbrown. Thank you, Charles Brown, Esq... wherever you are. :)
Oh, I remember the end of the Saga of Don Harris. Poor devil.
Kick
94
I know! Elizabeth bailed halfway through my five questions and I was too burned out to hold her feet to the fire.
MtnCaddy
96
I was actually referring to the post of Miss Elizabeth from today at [28] wherein I surmised I might find some decent political discussion by the commenter whom she addressed therein.
I know! Elizabeth bailed halfway through my five questions and I was too burned out to hold her feet to the fire.
I actually think she did a really good job answering a lot of your questions. It's become obvious why she believes the way she does versus our beliefs coming from an entirely different background. Credit where credit is due to her. :)
Yes, you’re right.
Um, Elizabeth? Nevermind. ;)
Trump gave a hundred minute smoothed out campaign speech. It was clearly aimed at the base, with right wing media set to spin it. I’m sure that lied a hundred times. I joined a live chat for the first time and was pleased to have similarly incredulous company.